@@Real-ImilI really appreciate the songs you've made and they really got me into speedcore and extratone pretty quickly, I hope you'll return to making more songs in those genres again!
thanks for having me on the channel! it’s really nice to see a light shone on the hidden corners of extratone, and it was great to see someone completely unfamiliar with the genre just going crazy and experimenting with it :D
Hi, nice vid. Some cool tips for future extratone producer: - You can use a FL 10 instead of Higher versions. FL 11 or above have BPM Limit capped at 522 BPM, FL 10 and lower goes up to 1000 BPM, so workflow can be easier. - Easiest and one of my favs kick: sine wave + pitch up to down lfo | wavesharper bitcrush + wavesharper at almost max - arp melodies works so cool with extratone - my one of favs stock vst for extratone: sytrus, toxic biohazard Enjoy
Man, I was super nervous because literally every single vid about the genre has been shitting on it. I've been a fan of the genre for like, 15+ years and it's always upsetting how people write it off. Extratone can be unironically beautiful and it's quite difficult to convince people of that fact. I was active in the scene way back then and it's super nostalgic for me. Really cool to see newer names being interviewed as well. I know this wasnt meant to be a super deep dive, but not completely writing it off is always nice to see. I'd highly suggest others check out 1000+ records and Splitterblast. The former of which was curated by my late friend Ian (AKA DJ Ninja Love Mistake) who really pushed the genre up until his death in the mid 2010s. Check out the artist Pyrrhon as well, his track "Je Crois..." is absolutely stunning.
It's because most of it doesn't really sound like music. It's really out there, even to the hipster types who like to listen to underrated genres and unknown artists. The only reason it gets shat on so much is because it's low hanging fruit that most people can say "wtf is this?" to. If acquired taste was a genre, it'd be extratone.
@@umamifan Exactly honestly. The most I can ask from people coming from different backgrounds is to understand, somewhat, where we see beauty in this. It's a very extreme genre not for everone, but if it's for you it's super rewarding.
should've checked out Singularity at 2.64e+6 BPM by Kobaryo, it's probably the most beautiful extratone song i've ever heard, melodic as hell and creates a really nice ambience and atmosphere that fits perfectly with the frequencies of the kicks
I was slightly disappointed he didn't end up stumbling into Kobaryo's extratone, I legitimately feel like Singularity and RTX 20000 he could have legitimately enjoyed because of how the extratone is used.
7:35 is such an important lesson! A friend once told me that I should watch tutorials and guides of genres that I'm not interested in making, because you can still learn so many new techniques and little tricks you can apply to your music, and that's perfectly represented in this video. Great stuff man, fr.
As someone that really likes heavy metal, I can see the appeal of that super dirty sound, especially like as a backing for something else. But on its own, it really is just noise, which you could say about a lot of metal as well, but you can still do interesting things within non musical noise, as you've proven here.
Honestly, extratone can be really good. Take for example literally any of Aekhloria's tracks or Singularity at 2.64e+6 BPM by Kobaryo. I mean, I do agree that extratone isn't for everyone, but damn people have made some impressive stuff in the extratone genre. Aekhloria has used the concept of the Shepard Tone to simulate infinite acceleration of tempo in their track "Perpetual Oscillations", for instance.
@@olstar Fair. Honestly, the limit on what's considered extratone vs hypertone is pretty arbitrary. The point of both genres is to play a sound (normally a kickdrum) so quickly it becomes a singular tone rather than multiple hits. There's even the paradoxical nature of extratone that it's so fast that it's actually not fast at all.
This is so sick and inspiring omg I would never consider making extratone unless I'm deep into some good ol' GPF shit, but I love how you approached this challenge and even how you concluded your journey with newly found inspiration to something completely different
OMG!!!!!!!! I have never seen a man so talented !!!! Each one of those beats is a FLIPPING MASTERPIECE !!!! Everyone one of those tracks hits so hard, I forget to breathe when listening to them! Pleaseeeeee release each of the tracks as complete tracks cause i would love to put them in my playlist :)
Love this :DD Feels like a documentary on TV trying to discover ancient lost stories xd But I also appreciate it, as a hardstyle producer I understand how it feels for people to hate on the genre and therefor I love that you went in there with an open mind to understand the roots and how to make it actually sound good
Personally I like to make the kind of extratone, which starts off as a tender, acoustic ballad, but turns into unmelodic 1000bpm kick spam around the 30 second mark, and continues for 10 minutes. It really gets people going in my local open mic. They start trying to jump on stage like I'm an idol.
"lets listen to extratone" and then plays music from 14 years ago... did you just youtube search "extratone" and play the first results? listen to better extratone, e.g. Hello (BPM) 2022, Windows 10000, RTX 20000, Singularity at 2.64e+6 BPM, "su!cide, not salvation" (replace the exclamation mark), skeleton cruise thats all i can think of at the moment
i personally like BPM=RT, superluminal absolutely extratone, IPLAYTABLETENNIS, G4M3-0V3R, and the entire 1000 over album. (Also check out psycho filth)
I think what's so interesting about extratone is what it is in concept. There's a song by Kobaryo (popular rhythm game artist) caller "Singularity at 2.46e+6 bpm," where they create so many different varied tones by smushing drums together. Some of the higher pitches don't even sound like there's space between the notes. To create music out of repeated percussion is so unique that I can't help but listen to it to appreciate how far we've come artistically as humans. Great video!
If you were to ask any classical musician to transcribe Singularity at over 9000 whatever from Kobaryo to a score, he'd annotate the tempo as being ~155 BPM, which is what the driving melody of the gentle arpegios and synths in the first part are composed. It's extratone·y, not extratone per se. And there you got those weeaboos up there discussing about it being supertone or hypertone. It's fucking 160 bpm, just sampled with an oscillated filtered square wave at around 1000 Hz and above, in the parts that sound like "extratone". And there's nothing wrong about that. The song is good, much to my surprise, I just relistened to it for third time a minute ago (to count tempos, and verify signatures and such... like if I were said musician and had to write this down to Sibellius in the next hour.)
What’s funny about this concept is that all sounds are just oscillations. For example, a saw bass is essentially a very fast impulse. By increasing the BPM of a kick pattern to create an extratone, you’re really just imitating what the DAW is already doing internally for normal sounds. It’s like coming full circle to how electronic sounds are made.
As someone who makes Harsh Noise, I appreciate producers like you keeping an open mind for niche "bad" genres! And thanks for introducing me to Extratone.
I came into this comment section to suggest exactly that. Since there's rampant mislabeling going on in the genre here's a small list of great (real) breakcore artists/albums if he decides to make the video: venetian snares - detrimentalist, techdiff - the black dog released, igorrr - hallelujah. And he can find some great people for interviews about breakcore on r/breakcore, producer snafu is active both on Reddit and UA-cam and can explain genre essence and history pretty well.
I'm a recording artist and performer, I produce all my own work, but I've recently gotten bogged down on all the releasing, marketing for my recent releases that I haven't just produced or created in so long. Watching this man do his thing always sparks some creativity in me, especially this video! Loved this. 👌🏿
without anybody pushing music to it's most extreme limits we would be missing out on a lot of phenomenal music, once you get over the "wtf is this garbage" barrier you can explore so many more concepts and actually start discovering what music actually is capable of doing to us and the feelings that it can evoke. keep an open mind before you start disregarding art for not instantly making sense to you
That threshold has been passed almost a century ago. Nowadays we're just recycling past fads of experimentation that have been well tried in antiquity and fallen out of favour. There's nothing to discover here if we want to keep calling it music.
@@fL0p disagree, there have been plenty of new genres popping up in the past century, sure some may be inspiried by or built upon previous genres but its still something previously unexplored. theres always new technology, new ways to make music, and fresh and creative musical minds who come up with crazy new stuff. if theres a sincere effort to make music, anything can be music.
your track honestly sounded great. but it's honestly also just dubstep. if you really want to get speedcore, you'd have to start with just a slow hardcore track or two in the 180-200bpm range, and have fun with that, then sort of start experimenting with tempo in an antisocial kinda way. but most importantly, you gotta arrive to the weirdly fast tempos from that four to the floor mindset.
and i guess that's why extratone sounds so abrasive, it's not just the tonal assault, but because the structure is derived from hardcore but made faster, there aren't any half tempo(or in your track's case 1/16th tempo) snare oases for your ear to hold onto
Refreshing! As a constant "experimenter" I enjoyed watching you suffer throughout the video ahaha nah, but fr I also recommend switching genres from time to time, {just not as often as I do because I change genres with every new beat so it's hard to find audience with that kinda instability haha) immense growth
@@fL0pdoes the sound of extratone remind you of that one time someone stuck a jackhammer up your ass or what? what were you so angry about that you decided to go and shit on everyone in the comments? Also am I missing something or is it supposed to be a kindergarten level insult? Names like that aren't even uncommon in the EDM scene. You're just making fun of someone's personal preferences.
I was planning with some friends to start making a game, but I was so unsure on how to make the music, overall learn the programs will take me a while, and so is thinking on what genre taking notes off, I believe that just learning from each might be the best.
Yea I wanted to hear more. But you know it’s not really the same thing. The melodic part is a normal bpm, the kicks were more like a modulating synth 😂
hi! i've been part of the speedcore/hardstyle community for about 14 years now and I'd be MORE than willing to answer any of your questions regarding extratone! i would say if you want to understand extratone start out listening to hardstyle and speedcore! i can link you to plenty of songs if you're interested! i'd love to see u make another vid on speedcore and hardstyle tbh!!!
xystran - depressed mind, one of my favorite extratone songs, somehow conveys emotion while still keeping that construction sound noise. Psycho filth records is perfect for anyone trying to get into higher bpms, they have collaborative albums ranging through BPMS from "200 over!!" to "1000 over!!" with multiple artists putting their own spin on it. In the beggining it felt harsh but it became one of my favorite music styles over time. Goated video for introducing this to more people.
The best "pure" Extratone ❤ I guess I have the biggest Extratone Playlist on UA-cam hahaha Diabarha/Łukasz is such a cool dude, want to talk with him while eating cake again ^-^
@@HKG3A3 I agree! Mariana Trench is probably the longest per human made track and 3 hours of pure emotional rollercoaster and maybe he's working on something bigger 🙃 All of his, Sunhiausa's, Monoqlom's and To Mega Therion/Seifuku Yangire's Extratone are pure gold ^^ I was at We Cause Violence today with 10 hours Terrorcore/Speedcore/Splittercore/Extratone in the Tunnel and 9 hours Industrial-Hardcore, Hard DnB, Crossbreed, Breakbeat-Hardcore and Mainstream Hardcore 👌
@@MSDK_DARKDRAGON I wonder: if he had listened to something like Singularity at 2.64e+6 BPM or to Another Place or these more melodic-oriented extratones, like he did with The Dark Field, would he have enjoyed it more?
@@HKG3A3 You mean Łukasz? Yes he did, at least at Project Speedcore Dungeon 12. last month (Epic Aggressive played Singularity and other tracks there. I had many questions about music stuff in my head but while eating cake with him we talked about food, differences between Germany and Poland and such stuff lol
I started making beats, your videos taught me alot! Now I make cinematic orchestral compositions! I would love to see you try making a cinematic/orchestral score, as a challenge
It was a genre I skipped for quite awhile, but I got into Kobaryo's music not to long ago and he made one track in particular that changed my mind on the genre entirely. Singularity at 2.64e+6 BPM, while a hypertone track, is genuinely one of the most beautiful songs I've heard in awhile. It's definitely not for everyone and I probably wouldn't have found such a great song if it wasn't for my love for speedcore gained from playing rhythm games.
@@fL0p With all due respect, that song is definitely not 155 bpm lmao. It’s around 2.6 million which is way more than required to be considered hypertone. It takes around 48 seconds for it to show so maybe you didn’t listen far enough or simply forgot how to check bpm for hypertone (which I don’t blame you lol).
Outro never gets old lmao. I don't think Extratone is the best genre I've ever listened to, but I think a good factor into what defines a bad genre is the community around and originality within it. This is one of the main reasons most pop music never really stuck with me- it all felt the same. I started looking for other genres, and quickly clung to electronic music and its many subgenres/related genres. I do like some good melodic Extratone still sometimes.
Extratone community to me also feels the same: It is either japanese bullet hell/anime inspirated "music", or edgy druidic named FL Studio black belts doing their best to me not laugh at their names (always with middle H, like DIARRHEA🤣). (and only FL Studio, of course).
Extratone can be genuinely so amazing but youtube search results does it so dirty 😭 Just listen to monoqlom's "to another place" or "half artifact" extremely underrated songs but so fricking good
Great video! It's been so nice to see you digging into something you found weird at first. Also, having convos with Extratone enthusiasts was a brilliant idea
its one of my favourite genre 😭 you need to listen to really good extratone songs. / Hello Bpm 2021 2022 2023 2024. all of these. or 最終鬼畜妹フランドール・S / Saishuu Kichiku Imouto Flandre-S (Camellia's Remix) and 777 (かめりあ's "7,777cc" Remix) . those are good extratone songs . some also have mixed genres edit: i know extratone is not for everyone. but i dont like when people think wrong of it. just because they hear some bad songs "like those examples in the video" times have changed and extratone has become way better and "polished"
@@Docani_ idk i see a lot of people in the comment crying that this guy watched random extratone off youtube and then they cite the same 3 guys (which some just make extratones on occasion). Like idk man. Camellia and kobaryo good and some of the melodic stuff too but dunno about it becoming better
@@Docani_ even if you dont like a whole genre, if you're gonna learn about it, you may start by learning their milestones and early examples and predecessors. FUCKING WEAABOO.
Had a roommate when I was young who was into gabber and noise and this felt like a natural extension of thst. I actually made a hypertone track before the genre existed while playing at a party he threw that was based around the concept of the ourouborous. The set started at zero bpm and ended at over 1000, the pretentious artsy concept being that both the beginning and end sounded like a drone
wow you actually got to interview Sunhiausa ❤❤I really love his music, I know that his side project, Aekhloria mainly focuses on extratone but his main project, he makes good frenchcore too ❤❤ But if you wanna look for more extratone songs, I highly recommend looking into Kobaryo's old catalogue. On example would be Sweet Compote, its such a beautiful song
Can you do a video on how to make your own rnb vocal samples I saw some videos on your IG of you recording vox and turning it into an rnb type vocal sample and building a beat around it what FX do you use for summer walker tory lanez type beatsvwith your own voice
Still better than corporate music. You can hear the vision the artist put into the track, and in a way I think that too is beautiful. It gives off that soul and passion of music made with love because it's that niche and not a lot of people are into it, even if it's harsh.
0:48 most popular isn't the best, there's tracks way more cooler/melodic/aggressive than this. This one is just tge most popular (or 2nd after TQBF The Big Black)
This is a genre that feels like it could be very good but during the tones, I always feel like there should be an accompanying melody. To make it flow into the next beat but that Melody never comes. Since I've seen other songs that incorporate this and they do that. Or there's always something under it. Or above it. That's what in my personal opinion sounds the best.
Love that you're giving the niche genres some attention. I've never seen this channel before, but if you do a video like this again I suggest looking into dariacore music. Its not extratone, but something else entirely. Like a synthesized car radio sent through a shredder
darn i should've been in this video. oh well, lmao. i would've loved to give servida a tutorial in extratone production and how to make kicks and arrange it and whatever
It´s always nice to see that even if you dont vibe with a perticular Style of Music, that one can still the see artistic exploration ! And if ur searching for Niche Music i would highly suggest to check out Psycore...A new take on Psychedelic Trance, defined by immersive Soundscapes and wild Sounddesing. Artist like Audiosyntax and Sectio Aurea would probably be a good starting point if u want to have a feel for what this Genre can offer
I’ve been really into Sunhiausa/Aekhloria for quite some time now. I personally really like the melodic style of basically all of his songs. And funnily enough even my mom said yesterday that the music is quite nice ^^ (to be fair, I played it on my phone speaker at a low volume while doing stuff around the house but it still is really wholesome ❤)
No need. At those "tempos", single notes are just common square/triangle wave oscillators modulated in such a way to be AN INSTRUMENT. Not the soul or the essence of the song. It's utopic. Kobaryo's song that I just listened? Any classic trained (and importantly, FORMALLY TRAINED) musician will lean towards the tempo of the song being in the 155-160 bpm. Which I do agree with.
@@fL0p exactly, extratone and the likes, its really just imitating an oscillators with your daw. A basic saw bass is already just an impulse at thousands+ "BPM". Its literally just like coming full circle
Just a heads up diabarha - uranoid i found on a wiki classified as hypertone (now idk if hypertone is an official genre but I found a wiki providing a bunch of "hypertone" songs and uranoid on the wiki was said to be near the baseline of hypertone. It said hypertone started at like 1.4 million BPM or something (the exact BPM might be misinformation again im not 100% sure)) It would go speedcore, extratone and then hypertone. One of my favorite examples although it only lasts for about 8 seconds in at the 5:59 of a song called "Everlasting Eternity" which was a song created for the beat saber world cup.
Two things- 1. Extratone is def not the worst. Hypertone, 1.2million bpm, is arguably worse. Id say japanoise, onkyokei, and harsh noise is worse 2. The songs you picked were old extratone, the newer extratone scene has mucj better songs, check out kobaryo, camellia, psycho filth, t+, and TQBF imo.
Bro EXTRATONE is a good subgenre of hardcore! It isn't bad! MOST BADDEST SUBGENRE OF HARDCORE IS.... Noise, Harsh Noise, NoiseCore, White Noise, Pink Noise and etc
I'm an extratone DJ and I approve of this video. I recommend checking out melodic supertone and hypertone also, good song of that is called Milky Way Galaxy by tatsuyangu.
I never really understood this genre, but if there is one thing to learn from it, it is to create synth like tones by repeating samples really fast which opens up the posibility to create modulation by changing the pattern and/or play at different pitches. Thank you for sharing this with us :D
Exactly. Because is what it is. Real tempo isn't that high such as 1000 BPM. Only frequencies of instruments and wavesynths get to those numbers. So, no genre at all.
the ability to say you don’t understand or like a genre but sit down and indulge in it anyway to understand it is so respectable, the song you made sounds like a mix of extratone+tearout+dubstep, its very good
Actually speedcore or extratone somehow affected even the commercial rhythm game musics. Its texture and techniques can be used for glitch spicy, and leads players to climax. In my opinion, the essence of the extratone is not stupidly high BPM but rather, harsh tonal sound caused by short periodic phenomena (like granular synthesis and literally IT IS). Recently I'm creating a deathstep-like something, but I implant such extratonish texture into the rhythm. By the way I love your approach and the organic spam(?) at 9:09.
Thank you, Servida, for having me and giving a chance to the genre by explaining it.
Love the fact that you experimented with it ✌️
what an absolute legend
Did a double take when I saw you appear in this. As always, love to see you repping how great speedcore/extratone can be!
I appreciate your insight bro!
@@Real-ImilI really appreciate the songs you've made and they really got me into speedcore and extratone pretty quickly, I hope you'll return to making more songs in those genres again!
Huh why didn't you said something about this video Valentin?
imma tell my kids that was drill music
😂😂😂
nah that ain't drill music that's drilling music
Oil rig
Good, Still better then drill
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construction site type beat
underrated comment
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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💣
dude i once made something like this for fun and i literally called the file "construction ass beat" 💀
HAA
thanks for having me on the channel!
it’s really nice to see a light shone on the hidden corners of extratone, and it was great to see someone completely unfamiliar with the genre just going crazy and experimenting with it :D
8:22 is diabolically hard 😮💨
Bro should do a full version
Bro! I need that in my life like yesterday
me too
THAT WAS CRAZY
Yeat type beat
As OSU player I forgot normal people don't usually listen to this kind of music
edit: *Who's afraid of the Big Black*
As a fnf dave and bambi fan i kinda forgot that this genre was outside of here
@@TheTrueAccount_2As someone who unironically listens to this at max volume in the taxi i also kinda forgot that
osu player!!!!
as someone that goes to raves, same
Yucky
bad genre + servida = good genre
Real
man the beats he made inspired by extratone were 🔥🔥🔥
This true😂
Your music is FIRE as well
Fr tho
Hi, nice vid.
Some cool tips for future extratone producer:
- You can use a FL 10 instead of Higher versions. FL 11 or above have BPM Limit capped at 522 BPM, FL 10 and lower goes up to 1000 BPM, so workflow can be easier.
- Easiest and one of my favs kick: sine wave + pitch up to down lfo | wavesharper bitcrush + wavesharper at almost max
- arp melodies works so cool with extratone
- my one of favs stock vst for extratone: sytrus, toxic biohazard
Enjoy
btw, your track at main part sounds kinda like a mix of extratone and industrial hardcore genres, very well track, i think you should release this.
@@hjpr.mp3 YOOO HJPR HIYAAA :3
Man, I was super nervous because literally every single vid about the genre has been shitting on it. I've been a fan of the genre for like, 15+ years and it's always upsetting how people write it off. Extratone can be unironically beautiful and it's quite difficult to convince people of that fact. I was active in the scene way back then and it's super nostalgic for me. Really cool to see newer names being interviewed as well. I know this wasnt meant to be a super deep dive, but not completely writing it off is always nice to see.
I'd highly suggest others check out 1000+ records and Splitterblast. The former of which was curated by my late friend Ian (AKA DJ Ninja Love Mistake) who really pushed the genre up until his death in the mid 2010s. Check out the artist Pyrrhon as well, his track "Je Crois..." is absolutely stunning.
People treat extratone now like the Mainstream was to techno back then
thank you for the recs!!! i love extratone it's just difficult to find a lot of the time
je crois is wonderful, i love this
I wouldn't listen to extratone on a daily basis but I do listen to terror with Noisekick and Delta 9
It's because most of it doesn't really sound like music. It's really out there, even to the hipster types who like to listen to underrated genres and unknown artists. The only reason it gets shat on so much is because it's low hanging fruit that most people can say "wtf is this?" to. If acquired taste was a genre, it'd be extratone.
@@umamifan Exactly honestly. The most I can ask from people coming from different backgrounds is to understand, somewhat, where we see beauty in this. It's a very extreme genre not for everone, but if it's for you it's super rewarding.
should've checked out Singularity at 2.64e+6 BPM by Kobaryo, it's probably the most beautiful extratone song i've ever heard, melodic as hell and creates a really nice ambience and atmosphere that fits perfectly with the frequencies of the kicks
That song is seriously gorgeous. Kobaryo is the absolute GOAT.
@@9Syren9whats your opinion on t/a/n/a/s/i/n ?
I was slightly disappointed he didn't end up stumbling into Kobaryo's extratone, I legitimately feel like Singularity and RTX 20000 he could have legitimately enjoyed because of how the extratone is used.
@Stardevoir This. I'm also not really a fan of extratone, but kobaryo just uses the concept to make some incredibly gorgeous music
@@Stardevoir FR THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING
edit: and don't forget USB 50, 176.0t, the song is so sick
2:22 the face you make after seeing the horrors of your creation is gold
7:35 is such an important lesson! A friend once told me that I should watch tutorials and guides of genres that I'm not interested in making, because you can still learn so many new techniques and little tricks you can apply to your music, and that's perfectly represented in this video. Great stuff man, fr.
8:24 that's like the best beat of all time holy shit
Agreed
Get off d
It's the same beat used in all of the music from that genre, nothing special about it.
Listen to Color Chaos by Unlike Pluto. It has a very similar vibe
As someone that really likes heavy metal, I can see the appeal of that super dirty sound, especially like as a backing for something else. But on its own, it really is just noise, which you could say about a lot of metal as well, but you can still do interesting things within non musical noise, as you've proven here.
8:56 wonky Eliminate style, love it!
Eliminate Mentioned 🔥🔥🔥
Eliminate da GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAT
FR tho
100% I thought of Bishu as well
9:08 multiplex
"when i was younger, i went too far on the internet"
Honestly, extratone can be really good. Take for example literally any of Aekhloria's tracks or Singularity at 2.64e+6 BPM by Kobaryo. I mean, I do agree that extratone isn't for everyone, but damn people have made some impressive stuff in the extratone genre. Aekhloria has used the concept of the Shepard Tone to simulate infinite acceleration of tempo in their track "Perpetual Oscillations", for instance.
id say singularity is more hypertone but who really cares
@@olstar Fair. Honestly, the limit on what's considered extratone vs hypertone is pretty arbitrary. The point of both genres is to play a sound (normally a kickdrum) so quickly it becomes a singular tone rather than multiple hits. There's even the paradoxical nature of extratone that it's so fast that it's actually not fast at all.
how about anima:XIRIUS - Create, Find; Exist, Begin?
@@SlyceCaik Haven't heard that just yet. Now I have to lol
kobaryo is fcking genius man that why i always love the TANO*C stuffs.
This is so sick and inspiring omg
I would never consider making extratone unless I'm deep into some good ol' GPF shit, but I love how you approached this challenge and even how you concluded your journey with newly found inspiration to something completely different
Never thought I'd be seeing greazy stuff here
*hey x*
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bro invented extrastep 💀
shiii goes brazyy
well hi
Actually look into “Macie Tu Extratone Gnoje (Said Remix)” It is a remix of an extratone song by a dubstep producer.
@@ickumas yoo whats good
it goes stupid too
Great video! Glad I could help you out on this one.
yo i replied to you on DJVI video
@@NomeOfficial Nice
@@DJPastaYaY fr
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OMG!!!!!!!! I have never seen a man so talented !!!! Each one of those beats is a FLIPPING MASTERPIECE !!!! Everyone one of those tracks hits so hard, I forget to breathe when listening to them! Pleaseeeeee release each of the tracks as complete tracks cause i would love to put them in my playlist :)
Diabarha is a great Extratone artist. They have MUCH better songs than the classic Uranoid, listen to their newer stuff.
paranoid is my favorite song from diabarha
BASED DIABARHA APPRECIATOR, this genre deserves so much more attention
Oh yes i love diaharba
Extratone is just routing the oscillator into the drum gate input. And much sound frequency modulation.
Love this :DD Feels like a documentary on TV trying to discover ancient lost stories xd
But I also appreciate it, as a hardstyle producer I understand how it feels for people to hate on the genre and therefor I love that you went in there with an open mind to understand the roots and how to make it actually sound good
I like to make melodic extratone a lot, it mixes really well in the middle of speedcore songs
gaannnggg
Personally I like to make the kind of extratone, which starts off as a tender, acoustic ballad, but turns into unmelodic 1000bpm kick spam around the 30 second mark, and continues for 10 minutes. It really gets people going in my local open mic. They start trying to jump on stage like I'm an idol.
UNDERSCORE SPOTTEDDDDDD
"lets listen to extratone" and then plays music from 14 years ago... did you just youtube search "extratone" and play the first results? listen to better extratone, e.g. Hello (BPM) 2022, Windows 10000, RTX 20000, Singularity at 2.64e+6 BPM, "su!cide, not salvation" (replace the exclamation mark), skeleton cruise
thats all i can think of at the moment
Everyone that doest know extratone always do that😭
I’m still sad that Windows 10000 isn’t on spotify
Singularity at 2.64e+6 BPM and RTX 20000 is not extratone anymore, it's supertone and hypertone.
@@hjpr.mp3 ..which is still extratone
i personally like BPM=RT, superluminal absolutely extratone, IPLAYTABLETENNIS, G4M3-0V3R, and the entire 1000 over album. (Also check out psycho filth)
7:58 omg at first i thought you wasting your time but then you so good i cant believe you did this
I think what's so interesting about extratone is what it is in concept.
There's a song by Kobaryo (popular rhythm game artist) caller "Singularity at 2.46e+6 bpm," where they create so many different varied tones by smushing drums together. Some of the higher pitches don't even sound like there's space between the notes.
To create music out of repeated percussion is so unique that I can't help but listen to it to appreciate how far we've come artistically as humans. Great video!
If you were to ask any classical musician to transcribe Singularity at over 9000 whatever from Kobaryo to a score, he'd annotate the tempo as being ~155 BPM, which is what the driving melody of the gentle arpegios and synths in the first part are composed.
It's extratone·y, not extratone per se. And there you got those weeaboos up there discussing about it being supertone or hypertone. It's fucking 160 bpm, just sampled with an oscillated filtered square wave at around 1000 Hz and above, in the parts that sound like "extratone".
And there's nothing wrong about that. The song is good, much to my surprise, I just relistened to it for third time a minute ago (to count tempos, and verify signatures and such... like if I were said musician and had to write this down to Sibellius in the next hour.)
What’s funny about this concept is that all sounds are just oscillations. For example, a saw bass is essentially a very fast impulse. By increasing the BPM of a kick pattern to create an extratone, you’re really just imitating what the DAW is already doing internally for normal sounds. It’s like coming full circle to how electronic sounds are made.
Okay but I would love a full version of the beat you worked on using the extratone bass lowkey
As someone who makes Harsh Noise, I appreciate producers like you keeping an open mind for niche "bad" genres! And thanks for introducing me to Extratone.
8:03 this bass hits hard 🔥🔥
seeing people saying extratone is bad hurts my soul
Lock in cro😭💀🙏🏾
Me too
it might be.
😂😂
i feel sorry for you
love this video! can you make similar videos about niche music genres like (genuine) breakcore? that would be awesome
I came into this comment section to suggest exactly that. Since there's rampant mislabeling going on in the genre here's a small list of great (real) breakcore artists/albums if he decides to make the video: venetian snares - detrimentalist, techdiff - the black dog released, igorrr - hallelujah. And he can find some great people for interviews about breakcore on r/breakcore, producer snafu is active both on Reddit and UA-cam and can explain genre essence and history pretty well.
I'm a recording artist and performer, I produce all my own work, but I've recently gotten bogged down on all the releasing, marketing for my recent releases that I haven't just produced or created in so long. Watching this man do his thing always sparks some creativity in me, especially this video!
Loved this. 👌🏿
without anybody pushing music to it's most extreme limits we would be missing out on a lot of phenomenal music, once you get over the "wtf is this garbage" barrier you can explore so many more concepts and actually start discovering what music actually is capable of doing to us and the feelings that it can evoke. keep an open mind before you start disregarding art for not instantly making sense to you
Agreed
That threshold has been passed almost a century ago. Nowadays we're just recycling past fads of experimentation that have been well tried in antiquity and fallen out of favour. There's nothing to discover here if we want to keep calling it music.
@@fL0p disagree, there have been plenty of new genres popping up in the past century, sure some may be inspiried by or built upon previous genres but its still something previously unexplored. theres always new technology, new ways to make music, and fresh and creative musical minds who come up with crazy new stuff. if theres a sincere effort to make music, anything can be music.
8:27 is it possible for me to remake this beat, record on it and drop it, I'm sorry, I'm so desperate of this sound
your track honestly sounded great. but it's honestly also just dubstep. if you really want to get speedcore, you'd have to start with just a slow hardcore track or two in the 180-200bpm range, and have fun with that, then sort of start experimenting with tempo in an antisocial kinda way. but most importantly, you gotta arrive to the weirdly fast tempos from that four to the floor mindset.
and i guess that's why extratone sounds so abrasive, it's not just the tonal assault, but because the structure is derived from hardcore but made faster, there aren't any half tempo(or in your track's case 1/16th tempo) snare oases for your ear to hold onto
Refreshing!
As a constant "experimenter" I enjoyed watching you suffer throughout the video ahaha
nah, but fr I also recommend switching genres from time to time, {just not as often as I do because I change genres with every new beat so it's hard to find audience with that kinda instability haha) immense growth
SUNHIAUSA/AEKHLORIA MENTIONED WOOOOOOOO
If you don't name yourself as a producer in the most ridiculous way possible you can't make extratone? Just observations.
I'll name myself AGHORAZEIN
Wait! Wait! DIARRHOEA! Much better.
@@fL0pdoes the sound of extratone remind you of that one time someone stuck a jackhammer up your ass or what? what were you so angry about that you decided to go and shit on everyone in the comments?
Also am I missing something or is it supposed to be a kindergarten level insult? Names like that aren't even uncommon in the EDM scene. You're just making fun of someone's personal preferences.
I was planning with some friends to start making a game, but I was so unsure on how to make the music, overall learn the programs will take me a while, and so is thinking on what genre taking notes off, I believe that just learning from each might be the best.
That melodic extratone at 1:35 was pretty good actually
Yea I wanted to hear more. But you know it’s not really the same thing. The melodic part is a normal bpm, the kicks were more like a modulating synth 😂
hi! i've been part of the speedcore/hardstyle community for about 14 years now and I'd be MORE than willing to answer any of your questions regarding extratone! i would say if you want to understand extratone start out listening to hardstyle and speedcore! i can link you to plenty of songs if you're interested! i'd love to see u make another vid on speedcore and hardstyle tbh!!!
Where can I get those 3 songs at the end they were so fire I want to cry T^T
start producing mate
@@Flairissome people don’t have music talent such as me lmao
xystran - depressed mind, one of my favorite extratone songs, somehow conveys emotion while still keeping that construction sound noise. Psycho filth records is perfect for anyone trying to get into higher bpms, they have collaborative albums ranging through BPMS from "200 over!!" to "1000 over!!" with multiple artists putting their own spin on it. In the beggining it felt harsh but it became one of my favorite music styles over time. Goated video for introducing this to more people.
Diabarha - Entire Universe is my favorite extratone song, I suggest you give it a listen, it is genuinely amazing
The best "pure" Extratone ❤ I guess I have the biggest Extratone Playlist on UA-cam hahaha Diabarha/Łukasz is such a cool dude, want to talk with him while eating cake again ^-^
It really hurts seeing Diabarha only getting recognition on his older stuff like Uranoid. Post-Harsh Poetry Diabarha is simply immaculate.
@@HKG3A3 I agree! Mariana Trench is probably the longest per human made track and 3 hours of pure emotional rollercoaster and maybe he's working on something bigger 🙃 All of his, Sunhiausa's, Monoqlom's and To Mega Therion/Seifuku Yangire's Extratone are pure gold ^^ I was at We Cause Violence today with 10 hours Terrorcore/Speedcore/Splittercore/Extratone in the Tunnel and 9 hours Industrial-Hardcore, Hard DnB, Crossbreed, Breakbeat-Hardcore and Mainstream Hardcore 👌
@@MSDK_DARKDRAGON I wonder: if he had listened to something like Singularity at 2.64e+6 BPM or to Another Place or these more melodic-oriented extratones, like he did with The Dark Field, would he have enjoyed it more?
@@HKG3A3 You mean Łukasz? Yes he did, at least at Project Speedcore Dungeon 12. last month (Epic Aggressive played Singularity and other tracks there. I had many questions about music stuff in my head but while eating cake with him we talked about food, differences between Germany and Poland and such stuff lol
I started making beats, your videos taught me alot! Now I make cinematic orchestral compositions! I would love to see you try making a cinematic/orchestral score, as a challenge
It was a genre I skipped for quite awhile, but I got into Kobaryo's music not to long ago and he made one track in particular that changed my mind on the genre entirely. Singularity at 2.64e+6 BPM, while a hypertone track, is genuinely one of the most beautiful songs I've heard in awhile. It's definitely not for everyone and I probably wouldn't have found such a great song if it wasn't for my love for speedcore gained from playing rhythm games.
155 bpm. "Hypertone".
@@fL0p With all due respect, that song is definitely not 155 bpm lmao. It’s around 2.6 million which is way more than required to be considered hypertone. It takes around 48 seconds for it to show so maybe you didn’t listen far enough or simply forgot how to check bpm for hypertone (which I don’t blame you lol).
Outro never gets old lmao. I don't think Extratone is the best genre I've ever listened to, but I think a good factor into what defines a bad genre is the community around and originality within it. This is one of the main reasons most pop music never really stuck with me- it all felt the same. I started looking for other genres, and quickly clung to electronic music and its many subgenres/related genres. I do like some good melodic Extratone still sometimes.
Extratone community to me also feels the same: It is either japanese bullet hell/anime inspirated "music", or edgy druidic named FL Studio black belts doing their best to me not laugh at their names (always with middle H, like DIARRHEA🤣). (and only FL Studio, of course).
Extratone can be genuinely so amazing but youtube search results does it so dirty 😭
Just listen to monoqlom's "to another place" or "half artifact" extremely underrated songs but so fricking good
Great video! It's been so nice to see you digging into something you found weird at first. Also, having convos with Extratone enthusiasts was a brilliant idea
no kobaryo mention 😢
its one of my favourite genre 😭 you need to listen to really good extratone songs. / Hello Bpm 2021 2022 2023 2024. all of these. or 最終鬼畜妹フランドール・S / Saishuu Kichiku Imouto Flandre-S (Camellia's Remix) and 777 (かめりあ's "7,777cc" Remix) . those are good extratone songs . some also have mixed genres
edit: i know extratone is not for everyone. but i dont like when people think wrong of it. just because they hear some bad songs "like those examples in the video" times have changed and extratone has become way better and "polished"
you don't even like the genre except if it's 2 or 3 artist that make it. I'm sorry but most artist making the genre isn't camellia or kobaryo
@@toonyandfriends1915 im sorry, but thats just not a good argument
@@Docani_ idk i see a lot of people in the comment crying that this guy watched random extratone off youtube and then they cite the same 3 guys (which some just make extratones on occasion). Like idk man. Camellia and kobaryo good and some of the melodic stuff too but dunno about it becoming better
@@toonyandfriends1915 AMEN.
@@Docani_ even if you dont like a whole genre, if you're gonna learn about it, you may start by learning their milestones and early examples and predecessors. FUCKING WEAABOO.
YOU, a video on extratone?? Thanks for putting our loved genre into exposure
Had a roommate when I was young who was into gabber and noise and this felt like a natural extension of thst. I actually made a hypertone track before the genre existed while playing at a party he threw that was based around the concept of the ourouborous. The set started at zero bpm and ended at over 1000, the pretentious artsy concept being that both the beginning and end sounded like a drone
please return to the genre and listen to some more modern extratone artists like kobayro or the “HELLO 2020BPM” series by camellia
please stop gatekeeping and imposing.
@@fL0p huh??? telling people to explore the diversity of a genre is gatekeeping now?? 💀💀
wow you actually got to interview Sunhiausa ❤❤I really love his music, I know that his side project, Aekhloria mainly focuses on extratone but his main project, he makes good frenchcore too ❤❤ But if you wanna look for more extratone songs, I highly recommend looking into Kobaryo's old catalogue. On example would be Sweet Compote, its such a beautiful song
never thought id see a Diabarha song played on Servida channel
Can you do a video on how to make your own rnb vocal samples I saw some videos on your IG of you recording vox and turning it into an rnb type vocal sample and building a beat around it what FX do you use for summer walker tory lanez type beatsvwith your own voice
all of the little snippets at the end are actually so insane
Still better than corporate music. You can hear the vision the artist put into the track, and in a way I think that too is beautiful. It gives off that soul and passion of music made with love because it's that niche and not a lot of people are into it, even if it's harsh.
0:48 most popular isn't the best, there's tracks way more cooler/melodic/aggressive than this. This one is just tge most popular (or 2nd after TQBF The Big Black)
8:24 ❤ Can we have a full version?
Please try making a Hardstyle/rawstyle kick drum using a kick drum, EQ, and distortion😅
I'd love to see your take on this one
How about going full distortion and making industrial kicks instead:>
@@tanghoannam7387 even better
Honestly i kinda dig it
Still have my " i like all music except one that reigns the ' i will ask you to turn that off' of all songs"
bro . we need full song like these on the end 🔥🔥🔥
This is a genre that feels like it could be very good but during the tones, I always feel like there should be an accompanying melody. To make it flow into the next beat but that Melody never comes. Since I've seen other songs that incorporate this and they do that. Or there's always something under it. Or above it. That's what in my personal opinion sounds the best.
1:25 i...
i actually unironically like this one...
Honestly both (Edit: all) of the tracks you made were better than anything you listened to, hahaha. I like that you had fun making it. Cool video!
as an extratone listener i didn't expect to be violated by servida and edtalenti
Love that you're giving the niche genres some attention. I've never seen this channel before, but if you do a video like this again I suggest looking into dariacore music. Its not extratone, but something else entirely. Like a synthesized car radio sent through a shredder
Thunus Albacore is good too. In sunflower oil, delicious.
darn i should've been in this video. oh well, lmao. i would've loved to give servida a tutorial in extratone production and how to make kicks and arrange it and whatever
Same, very weird to see someone this popular put extratone into exposure
WHY do I just found this video now? Where are you guys coming from hahahaha XD
@@MSDK_DARKDRAGONA friend of mine sent me this video. Had he not done it, I don't think I would've seen it
I think it would be the other way around.
It´s always nice to see that even if you dont vibe with a perticular Style of Music, that one can still the see artistic exploration !
And if ur searching for Niche Music i would highly suggest to check out Psycore...A new take on Psychedelic Trance, defined by immersive Soundscapes and wild Sounddesing.
Artist like Audiosyntax and Sectio Aurea would probably be a good starting point if u want to have a feel for what this Genre can offer
I recommend Monoqlom - Twilight.
Also, his other extratone pieces are great.
0:16 My reaction whenever someone says something is TERRIBLE! 😂
Shoutout Sunhiausa/Aekhloria
My guy please make a full version the those end beats. Absolutely insane.
that beat was harder than what I expected. Thanks for bringing extratone to trap!
I’ve been really into Sunhiausa/Aekhloria for quite some time now. I personally really like the melodic style of basically all of his songs. And funnily enough even my mom said yesterday that the music is quite nice ^^ (to be fair, I played it on my phone speaker at a low volume while doing stuff around the house but it still is really wholesome ❤)
Hypertone: Do people know that I even exist?
No need. At those "tempos", single notes are just common square/triangle wave oscillators modulated in such a way to be AN INSTRUMENT. Not the soul or the essence of the song.
It's utopic.
Kobaryo's song that I just listened? Any classic trained (and importantly, FORMALLY TRAINED) musician will lean towards the tempo of the song being in the 155-160 bpm. Which I do agree with.
@@fL0p exactly, extratone and the likes, its really just imitating an oscillators with your daw. A basic saw bass is already just an impulse at thousands+ "BPM". Its literally just like coming full circle
@9:12 that is so sounding like water drops. give that sample to you producer friends to flip
You should listen to Hello (BPM) 2023 by Camellia, from there you should know why extratone is the best genre ever existed.
Your opinion. Stop gatekeeping.
@@fL0p k then :)
Just a heads up diabarha - uranoid i found on a wiki classified as hypertone (now idk if hypertone is an official genre but I found a wiki providing a bunch of "hypertone" songs and uranoid on the wiki was said to be near the baseline of hypertone. It said hypertone started at like 1.4 million BPM or something (the exact BPM might be misinformation again im not 100% sure)) It would go speedcore, extratone and then hypertone.
One of my favorite examples although it only lasts for about 8 seconds in at the 5:59 of a song called "Everlasting Eternity" which was a song created for the beat saber world cup.
Uranoid is 2560 BPM its extratone.
@@nyebo Your right. My bad i also checked that hypertone wiki it said that 1.2 million was 955x uranoid BPM so that also makes more sense.
BPM in the millions is a frequency so high YOU CAN'T HEAR IT.
@@zenith0079 your upper threshold is certainly in the 3500-4000 bpm.
Two things-
1. Extratone is def not the worst. Hypertone, 1.2million bpm, is arguably worse. Id say japanoise, onkyokei, and harsh noise is worse
2. The songs you picked were old extratone, the newer extratone scene has mucj better songs, check out kobaryo, camellia, psycho filth, t+, and TQBF imo.
Two unmistakable wapanese traits:
1. Connoiseur of non-real music genres.
2. Weeaboo, gatekeeping.
@@fL0p hi, i am chinese. full chinese, not white. yes, i listen to "non-real" genres. so what? i want to introduce people to them.
Simon, you should check out Ophidian's "making a song out of a 909" video where he only uses a 909 kick for a whole song
Bro EXTRATONE is a good subgenre of hardcore! It isn't bad! MOST BADDEST SUBGENRE OF HARDCORE IS....
Noise, Harsh Noise, NoiseCore, White Noise, Pink Noise and etc
i like these better than extratone
@@AtomBott uhm ok?
Opinion on Power Noise?
@@ultragamer2009-u6f Noise is cool but c'mon JUST A NOISE lmao and imo noisecore is most chillest subgenre of noise. Srry if I offended you.
@@D4rk0utOfficialChannel026 nah i wasnt offended at all lol. I was just curious tbf. no worries :P
I'm an extratone DJ and I approve of this video. I recommend checking out melodic supertone and hypertone also, good song of that is called Milky Way Galaxy by tatsuyangu.
Finnaly learnt to wear his headphones normally 😂
I never really understood this genre, but if there is one thing to learn from it, it is to create synth like tones by repeating samples really fast which opens up the posibility to create modulation by changing the pattern and/or play at different pitches.
Thank you for sharing this with us :D
Exactly. Because is what it is. Real tempo isn't that high such as 1000 BPM. Only frequencies of instruments and wavesynths get to those numbers. So, no genre at all.
As a first time watcher, dude you're crazy good as a content creator, keep it up!
Got here cuz I'm a Sunhiausa/Aekhloria fan btw
@@ciruelorecords3919 aupa ciruelo, siempre con H intercalada, recuerda.
the ability to say you don’t understand or like a genre but sit down and indulge in it anyway to understand it is so respectable, the song you made sounds like a mix of extratone+tearout+dubstep, its very good
Actually speedcore or extratone somehow affected even the commercial rhythm game musics. Its texture and techniques can be used for glitch spicy, and leads players to climax. In my opinion, the essence of the extratone is not stupidly high BPM but rather, harsh tonal sound caused by short periodic phenomena (like granular synthesis and literally IT IS). Recently I'm creating a deathstep-like something, but I implant such extratonish texture into the rhythm. By the way I love your approach and the organic spam(?) at 9:09.
" leads players to climax"
ayo what
@@toonyandfriends1915 I just nutted. By listening to deathstep-like extra-tonal harsh granular synthesizer waves.
TOTAL CLIMAX.
@@toonyandfriends1915 BUSTED A NUT RIGHT THERE. "CLIMAX".
The last beats you create with those extra tone sounds just blew my mind :D
I'm only 15 seconds in but I'm just gonna say this: A "bad genre" is subjective, if someone doesn't like a genre of music it doesn't mean its bad.
One of the few valid takes I've read in this puddle of filth that the comments of this video are. 💯
also how you get those wubs on 8:54
@8:19 Introducing TrapTone
9:41 what "instrument" is that? like is it a synth piano or what kinda sound did you use in the piano roll?
If an A10 Warthog was a music genre
8:18 is the full beat avaiable in any part?
That is unironically not a horrible genre.
Please can I have that beat that you made at the end of the video? 🙏🏾