Just an fyi….at the approach to Philmont station there is a road crossing called Red lion Road. Take a right there and go 2 miles and you will be at the Budd Red lion plant where every RDC,Budd Silverliner and many Amtrak train cars were built….not to mention many subway cars.
Very well done ! I grew up on the Bethlehem Branch of the RDG Co. I never had the opportunity to ride any of the West Trenton line trains. Years ago, my Dad used to got Jenkintown to take the train to NYC, but I'm not sure how that interconnected. The few times that he took me, we went on a "Metroliner", and once i got to be in the front cab, and see the digital speedometer at 125 MPH, while riding north of Phila, while they were still building I-95. Wonderful video, many thanks!!!
I rode this train from Center City to Langhorne over 50 years ago when it was operated by the Reading. There was no continuous weld track, and some of the cars were so old. they had ceiling fans instead of air conditioning and you could open the windows. A bygone era.
You Are Producing GREAT VIDEOS!!!! I always wanted to be a locomotive engineer from age 2 when I saw my first train! Had to settle for working as a block operator/towerman/train director account my eyesight deficiency (requirements when I hired on in early 1970s). Therefore the ALL the info you provide in your videos is GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!! I want to see you do more "cab ride" videos if/when you can!!!! Would like to see a small map in one of the corners of the territory covered, if you could do that. THANK YOU for your Great Work and Quality!!!!
At the @8:50 mark is the school I used to coach baseball at, Cristo Rey Philadelphia. When they were digging up the yard, they found a couple of old rails from when the factory received and shipped via the Reading and Conrail. If I were to walk along the NY shortline, I would actually get to my house about 7 miles from where Neshaminy Falls is at
Yardley was my station growing up, and still is when I visit family. Yardley especially used to be pretty rundown, so I like how they added ramps and a level platform. Love being there knowing some hoagies and cheesesteaks await me.
@@3985uprr too bad Septa won't extend the Broad Street Line even further, considering UA-cam has a video (possibly more) on the abandoned stations and plans that originally made this subway route much bigger than it is
Thanks for going to all the trouble to add some very informative graphics. Your videos are excellent, always (this one being, a prime example), but your graphics are GREAT! (I also enjoy, on some of your other videos, hearing your commentary/descriptions.) Thank you, again!
Love you videos bro. I use them as extra rides when i get home for pc qualifying to become an engineer. I just started this line, neshaminy line. Fyi... That was a "slow approach" signal on the dwarf at Wayne junction. Keep up the good work
43:51 presumably there is some kind of protection that doesn’t allow a train go past in the opposite direction whilst a west Trenton train sets down in what would be normally the unsafe zone.
Unless they've changed this in the last few years, engineers are required to approach at no greater than 30 MPH prepared to stop if a train is in the station coming the opposite way.
Ran this line as an engineer for over 25 yrs. This is a nice stretch of railroad , from Elwyn thru to West Trenton N.J. Many highway grade crossings. Very dangerous at night !
I’ll try at some point. I’ve actually done that whole line in two parts. I did one from Bryn Mawr to Thorndale and another one from Bryn Mawr to 30th St.
US 13 joins the NEC Corridor in Wilmington, DE, just before the Biden Transportation Center. However, US 13 changes sides of Interstate 95 between Wilmington DE and Chester, PA - it creates a quandary in that Chester, PA is not served by Amtrak, but is by SEPTA. (Marcus Hook, PA is a SEPTA-only station, at PA 452@US13 - which is 10th Street in Marcus Hook proper.). Were Marcus Hook, or Chester PA for that matter, served by Amtrak, I would change there - but because Amtrak services neither, I changed trains in Wilmington, or was simply picked up there when visiting - which I did twice. Because my trips were on weekends, I never used SEPTA on the weekends along the Newark, DE - Philadelphia line. I used SEPTA, but the then Paoli Local - now the Paoli- Thorndale Line I which then and now shares trackage with the Keystone line as far west at Harrisburg PA. West of Harrisburg, the Keystone line is not only not electrified, but is still primarily freight, even today.
Interesting work! I have taken an interest in the "G Type" signal and noticed that some heads have the green light upper right and some have them upper left. Any rhyme or reason? I understand that the indication is the same either way, but I would have thought everything would be standard. Most if not all former NYC "G"s I have seen have the green upper right.
If I am able, but lighting is a major factor in doing these videos. If anything, I may do it in the opposite direction because the lighting would be better.
I’m hoping New Jersey transit starts running trains out of West Trenton towards Newark. They have contemplated it, but no action so far. Other than that you’d have to go to Trenton.
@@nickberry5520 Yes the 608 bus stops across the street from the station. It serves the nearby Trenton Mercer Airport and also goes to the Trenton station in Downtown Trenton.
If you woke up in a world where every EMU was a silverliner 4, even on the LIRR and Metro North, what would you do? I think you'd be the happiest man ever if the only EMU trains existing were M9s and Silverliner 5s
All due respect, those SL-V cars are UGLY too and they don't seem to ride anywhere near as well as SL-II and III cars which rode the absolute best. I rode SEPTA's SL-4 GE cars in the 1970s when they were brand new and they rode great and had nice acceleration. I don't really understand the GE car hate. Some of those GE cars must have millions of miles on them. What's the problem? I appreciate that the V's have a rail fan seat, but the things ride like they have square wheels compared to an old Budd SL-II. There's more to a great passenger rail car than "the way the horn sounds" and if it has a rail fan seat.
@@3985uprr - I know it, but it's going to be a loss when the GE cars are retired, IMO (probably soon, unfortunately). I don't think these Hyundai cars will be around even half of the 50 to 60 years of continuous service that the Budd, St. Louis and GE cars endured, but I've been wrong before. Great channel, by the way!!! A+++
I don't care for the seats in the SEPTA Silverliners. They're too close together, and are like municipal bus seats. The NJ Transit Arrows seats have more padding and are farther apart.
Just an fyi….at the approach to Philmont station there is a road crossing called Red lion Road. Take a right there and go 2 miles and you will be at the Budd Red lion plant where every RDC,Budd Silverliner and many Amtrak train cars were built….not to mention many subway cars.
Very well done ! I grew up on the Bethlehem Branch of the RDG Co. I never had the opportunity to ride any of the West Trenton line trains. Years ago, my Dad used to got Jenkintown to take the train to NYC, but I'm not sure how that interconnected. The few times that he took me, we went on a "Metroliner", and once i got to be in the front cab, and see the digital speedometer at 125 MPH, while riding north of Phila, while they were still building I-95.
Wonderful video, many thanks!!!
I rode this train from Center City to Langhorne over 50 years ago when it was operated by the Reading. There was no continuous weld track, and some of the cars were so old. they had ceiling fans instead of air conditioning and you could open the windows. A bygone era.
The last time I rode this line to West Trenton was the "Farewell to the Budd Silverliners" fan trip. Love seeing your videos.
You Are Producing GREAT VIDEOS!!!! I always wanted to be a locomotive engineer from age 2 when I saw my first train! Had to settle for working as a block operator/towerman/train director account my eyesight deficiency (requirements when I hired on in early 1970s). Therefore the ALL the info you provide in your videos is GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!! I want to see you do more "cab ride" videos if/when you can!!!! Would like to see a small map in one of the corners of the territory covered, if you could do that. THANK YOU for your Great Work and Quality!!!!
My brother lived in Langhorne and I used to take this line frequently. Thanks for the memories.
At the @8:50 mark is the school I used to coach baseball at, Cristo Rey Philadelphia. When they were digging up the yard, they found a couple of old rails from when the factory received and shipped via the Reading and Conrail.
If I were to walk along the NY shortline, I would actually get to my house about 7 miles from where Neshaminy Falls is at
Appreciate your knowledge and background info - thanks for your channel
I "second" that!!!!
Great video. Really love your work, always a great job! Keep up the good work!
hello retired railfan horn guy its is randy and i like yours video is cool thanks friends randy
Yardley was my station growing up, and still is when I visit family. Yardley especially used to be pretty rundown, so I like how they added ramps and a level platform. Love being there knowing some hoagies and cheesesteaks await me.
Very good video , Thanx !
I love seeing the old Reading routes! This is a particularly fine one.
Also the route of the B&O Royal Blue from Jersey City.
You step it up with each new video. Keep these regional rail ones current! They are a fantastic study aid
That is my plan!!! I never realized how many Septa employees watch my videos. Glad to help.
@@3985uprr too bad Septa won't extend the Broad Street Line even further, considering UA-cam has a video (possibly more) on the abandoned stations and plans that originally made this subway route much bigger than it is
Thanks for going to all the trouble to add some very informative graphics. Your videos are excellent, always (this one being, a prime example), but your graphics are GREAT! (I also enjoy, on some of your other videos, hearing your commentary/descriptions.) Thank you, again!
Glad you like them!
Im loving these Septa videos!
Love you videos bro. I use them as extra rides when i get home for pc qualifying to become an engineer. I just started this line, neshaminy line.
Fyi... That was a "slow approach" signal on the dwarf at Wayne junction.
Keep up the good work
Yes I missed that signal. Thanks much. I plan on doing more detailed head end rides.
Great video and thanks for uploading it to UA-cam and I thought that amtrak shares this line as well
They don’t. They do to Trenton
Csx
43:51 presumably there is some kind of protection that doesn’t allow a train go past in the opposite direction whilst a west Trenton train sets down in what would be normally the unsafe zone.
Unless they've changed this in the last few years, engineers are required to approach at no greater than 30 MPH prepared to stop if a train is in the station coming the opposite way.
Nice ride. Thanks Tim😀💚
If I remember correctly, Septa sold CSX one track on the Fox Chase line from Newtown JCT and then sold the other track on the West Trenton line
Yes
Ran this line as an engineer for over 25 yrs. This is a nice stretch of railroad , from Elwyn thru to West Trenton N.J. Many highway grade crossings. Very dangerous at night !
Could you help me with the training?
@dbanks7634 Sure, but you will have to study and understand how to apply the rules .
@ cool, thanks
Awesome Video! Could you do one on Thorndale? I am trying to get familiar with that line.
I’ll try at some point. I’ve actually done that whole line in two parts. I did one from Bryn Mawr to Thorndale and another one from Bryn Mawr to 30th St.
It is NOT the NEC - it us one of its clones, down to the parallel freight line, duch as the stretces between Wilmington DE and Chester PA.
US 13 joins the NEC Corridor in Wilmington, DE, just before the Biden Transportation Center. However, US 13 changes sides of Interstate 95 between Wilmington DE and Chester, PA - it creates a quandary in that Chester, PA is not served by Amtrak, but is by SEPTA. (Marcus Hook, PA is a SEPTA-only station, at PA 452@US13 - which is 10th Street in Marcus Hook proper.). Were Marcus Hook, or Chester PA for that matter, served by Amtrak, I would change there - but because Amtrak services neither, I changed trains in Wilmington, or was simply picked up there when visiting - which I did twice. Because my trips were on weekends, I never used SEPTA on the weekends along the Newark, DE - Philadelphia line. I used SEPTA, but the then Paoli Local - now the Paoli- Thorndale Line I which then and now shares trackage with the Keystone line as far west at Harrisburg PA. West of Harrisburg, the Keystone line is not only not electrified, but is still primarily freight, even today.
good video.
Very cool
Interesting work! I have taken an interest in the "G Type" signal and noticed that some heads have the green light upper right and some have them upper left. Any rhyme or reason? I understand that the indication is the same either way, but I would have thought everything would be standard. Most if not all former NYC "G"s I have seen have the green upper right.
The positioning does drive me crazy sometimes
Great video, thanks. Was The New York Shortline four tracks at on time?
I’m not sure
How much were the tickets for the Royal Blue Train?
Not sure, but they were cheaper than the Pennsylvania Railroad between the New York area and Washington
Before Speta what RR ran this route was it PRR.or Reading ?
Reading
@@3985uprr thanks
Can you please do Septa Silverliner V from Norristown to Wawa the next time you are in the Philadelphia area?
If I am able, but lighting is a major factor in doing these videos. If anything, I may do it in the opposite direction because the lighting would be better.
Is there anyway to transfer to NJ Transit trains or buses at West Trenton? Great video by the way.
I’m hoping New Jersey transit starts running trains out of West Trenton towards Newark. They have contemplated it, but no action so far. Other than that you’d have to go to Trenton.
I think there is a single bus line nearby
@@3985uprr Yeah that would be great if they ran service to Newark or Hoboken. It gives Septa and NJ Transit another transfer point.
@@nickberry5520 Yes the 608 bus stops across the street from the station. It serves the nearby Trenton Mercer Airport and also goes to the Trenton station in Downtown Trenton.
wher do you get food for the mules that run septa trains SLOW SLOW SLOW
If you woke up in a world where every EMU was a silverliner 4, even on the LIRR and Metro North, what would you do?
I think you'd be the happiest man ever if the only EMU trains existing were M9s and Silverliner 5s
I would take up stamp collecting
All due respect, those SL-V cars are UGLY too and they don't seem to ride anywhere near as well as SL-II and III cars which rode the absolute best. I rode SEPTA's SL-4 GE cars in the 1970s when they were brand new and they rode great and had nice acceleration. I don't really understand the GE car hate. Some of those GE cars must have millions of miles on them. What's the problem?
I appreciate that the V's have a rail fan seat, but the things ride like they have square wheels compared to an old Budd SL-II. There's more to a great passenger rail car than "the way the horn sounds" and if it has a rail fan seat.
@@scdevon It is what it is. I do miss the Budds though.
@@3985uprr - I know it, but it's going to be a loss when the GE cars are retired, IMO (probably soon, unfortunately). I don't think these Hyundai cars will be around even half of the 50 to 60 years of continuous service that the Budd, St. Louis and GE cars endured, but I've been wrong before. Great channel, by the way!!! A+++
@@scdevon I fully agree they won’t have the longevity of the GE’s but I will enjoy them while they are around. Thanks
I'd toot for Horn Guy.
Train is M404
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Short trains
Slow getting out of Philadelphia, low capacity and low density suburban area.
I don't care for the seats in the SEPTA Silverliners. They're too close together, and are like municipal bus seats. The NJ Transit Arrows seats have more padding and are farther apart.