Do you like grey skies? Do you like rain? Are you a masochist? Welcome to the Oceanic climate! 😂 Seriously, though, if you have experienced this climate on travel or because you live in these zones, let me know of your experience!
The California Mediterranean climate while near the ocean actually doesn’t even go above 25 degrees in summer on average. Sadly I live in the Humid Subtropical climate so I don’t experience either of these beautiful climates.
@sukc dolev it's not really that hot, it's just dry. Most Mediterranean climates barely reach 30C, very comfortable. I live in a monsoon climate where 30 C is daytime in winter and 35 is daytime is summer.
So sad, so few parts of the USA having this climate. The imagery is stunning. And I'm one of those people that loves and feels energized when it is raining.
Well, you would get tired of it as where I live in fall months it is raining 2 months straight without stopping, and in winter is as cold as greenland because of the high humidity
I was born and raised in Colmar, France, which you mention a video extract of in your video :) It has a oceanic climate, which however distinguishes a bit from the rest of France, because of rain shadow from the Vosges and its inland position : as a consequence it is drier, and its winters are colder. Non-mediterranean southern France experiences more and more a climate that is technically humid subtropical (summer monthes >22°C) : Lyons, Toulouse, Avignon, Grenoble, etc.. Their summers are too hot to be considered oceanic, and too humid to be considered mediterranean. Global warming increases this phenomenon.
@@Geodiode Also, even though most of southern China falls under the Cfa and Cwa climate classifications, a pedantic climate scientist would colour southern China into polka dots. There are places where the mountain rainshadow is so profound that the surrounding areas are much closer to Dfa than Cfa, most notably Sichuan. Others have high enough altitude to exhibit year-round Cfb or even Cwb conditions in areas that are otherwise Cfa.
This whole series is so well made and turns the entire topic into a fun activity. Thank you so much for all the hard work you must have put in making these gems!
melbourne is also a rare hybrid of this climate and a mediteranean climate. the summers get really hot and dry. record high was 47 degrees. but still doesnt feel as hot as a tropical climate.
I think dry heat during an occasional mild heatwave is the best esp given the lower rainfalls in summer in most oceanic climates! not the one that hit the UK in July 2022, I am referring to a typical heatwave that lasts for a few days
I love these videos of yours! I find oceanic climates particularly interesting because of all the land, particularly small islands, in the southern hemisphere that lie in the roaring forties and beyond, those extremely isolated places are so fascinating to me. Can't wait for your next video!
I live in an Oceanic zone in South eastern Australia, but really anything can happen, except snow! In January it can Often breach 40*C, but are usually in the high 20s I believe the average day-night temperature in January is just below 22*C which is the humid subtropical-Oceanic borderline. Temperatures below 0*C are extremally rare and only ever occour at the end of June. There are more rainy days in winter, especially July and August, and summer doesn't usually have many rainy days, but when it does rain, it rains a lot! And can even lead to floods! I can remember in my childhood just after Christmas that we had 60ml of rain in a single day! it caused a small bridge over a creek to collapse! Leading to a seven year project to build a new, safer bridge. Because of the evergreen trees, Autumn feels just like spring, and only, introduced trees drop their leaves in April. We often just call the season, Easter!
G'dau Tristan, and thanks for the detailed local perspective. I spent about 2 years in Melbourne when I was very young, and all I remember is the rain, compared to much drier Adelaide, where we moved to afterwards. There is more on this climate, with a specific mention of your region in my new video here: ua-cam.com/video/uPx2tuM4W3c/v-deo.html
it can snow in melbourne, between 2-10 times every 10 years in the higher parts of the city and 2-5 times in the lower parts and it has to be very very cold except in the dandenongs which are part of melbourne, they get annual snowfall 3 times a year
In New Zealand, you only find Tundra above 1500m and on the subantarctic Auckland and Campbell Islands hundreds of kilometres south of the mainland. The north of our country has palm trees and we grow bananas and taro - its hardly tundratic.
Such a shame that mountains in the Americas block this climate from going more inland. A green Patagonia where Cfb becomes Cfc as you go south would be really cool and probably densely populated.
Yeah, I do hate the Cascades haha Although, without them, I guess most of the estern parts of Washington, Oregon, Idaho, and probably some parts of Montana and Wyoming would be csb or csa but not cfb (basically looking like the Idaho Panhandle). Cfb might occur in British Columbia without the rainshadows (or at least Dfb similar to Poland or Sweden). That kind of North America would be really cool!
This discussion brought something back up that I used to think about and hate, and that's how in Chile rainfall begins to increase and become more influenced by the westerlies in the southern hemisphere past 35 s and many places in southern chile are oceanic and not desert. Even on a map you can see it get greener past 35 s. Eventually past 42 s the amount of flat land decreases and gives way to hilly fjords and carved saltwater rivers which would be difficult for agricultural development and transportation. I find this to be a direct result of the Nazca plate forcing land upward in south america in the patagonian region and thus blocking prevailing winds with a ton of moisture from getting to the regions past the Andes and creating a massive rain shadow over argentina. This turns the area between Ushuaia and Buenos Aires into a desert region that could have been a large temperate rainforest. It would have been interesting to see something like this because if would make rare endemic species more widespread and allowed for further development in the southern hemisphere. Sometimes mountain placement can be convenient for one region but make it inconvenient for another, and the Andes just block most, if not all the rainfall from the prevailing winds from crossing into Argentina. It's kind of like Cascadia but in the southern hemisphere and the height of the Andes creates this huge rain shadow too just like Cascadia.
@@arcturus9366 I know, I also hate the Andes that run through Chile for that reason. As for the climate that Patagonia could have, most of it would probably have a csb climate like that of the city of El Bolsón in Argentina, with probably some csc, cfb, and cfc at the bottom. Now, I've even thought of the possibility of blowing the mountains with explosives haha, but it is full of volcanoes so I guess that makes it extra difficult. Finally, something that also sucks about the Patagonia is that, because it is the only landmass at those latitudes, it has some of the strongest winds in the world and that would also affect it's vegetation. In the end, I think that Patagonia (like the Pacific Northwest) is one of the most interesting and uniques regions of the world, yet it's unfortunate geography leaves us with a lot of barren desert and some interesting microclimates close to the mountains.
@@arcturus9366 Funnily enough though, those very same mountains and deserts that you hate so much heavily isolated Chile for a long time, allowing for ancient Gondwanan species to survive without a whole lot of outside competition. Meanwhile a handful of species _did_ manage to make it through to become unique and contribute to Chile's very odd and wonderful biota. Without the mountains along the western coasts of the Americas I imagine that the region would look a lot more like western Europe, which I find to be incredibly boring.
GeoDiode of course. New Zealand is like chile and argentina from Talca or Rio Negro until Coyhayque. On the eastern South Island is dry like southern Argentina. On the west coast South Island is wet as Chiloe. North island is a mix of both countries, quite warm and humid on summers and cool and damp on winters.
LOL, someday I plan on living in New Zealand and visiting Chile. I just love subtropical and oceanic climates, and especially the Gondwanan biota. Unfortunately New Zealand didn't do quite as good of a job as Chile at preserving all the temperate forest, much of that grassland was once all forest except for the east coast of the South Island.
Also in Turkey, Black Sea Region has a very similar climate to the Oceanic despite being in the Mediterranean zone, due to its higher altitude. The region is one of the biggest producers of black tea in the world. Yet, the region covers a relatively small area. So I think it's just a micro climate thing. Btw the series is amazing. I'd been looking for something like this for a long time, big thanks.
I live in Vancouver! And it's a very pretty city but miserable - it's been raining nearly every day since November and will continue to do so through January and most likely Feb as well. Vancouver gets a lot more rain than London (it's a temperate rainforest) so I suppose it's not a typical representative of an oceanic climate,but I really prefer a drier and, more importantly, sunnier continental climate. Sure it might get to -20 in the hinterlands but you can wrap up against the cold, whereas the Vancouver wet manages to get through your waterproof clothing...and all the buses are full of people that smell like wet sheep. Ugh. Guess the grass is always greener on the other side
@@thephoenix3155 people in vancouver swim in the ocean year round and experienced 40 degrees Celsius this summer I don't think you can compare it with either
I live in Melbourne, its quite warm comparatively to the other oceanic climate regions. Winters have days between 12C - 18C depending on direction of the wind, summers can get up to 40C-45C Regularly each summer, but yes it is still changeable in the summer time and occasionally we are impacted by cool westerly winds or even humid north easterly's so we can have a Mediterranean style summer or a humid subtropical summer, it varies year to year.
Something I don't understand is that in Lima we got a cool ocean but it never rains it only creates a fog but no rain whereas Chile has a cooler sea and it does rain there
Lima is blocked from the easterly trades by the Andes, preventing almost all moisture from reaching Lima. Combine that with the cool Peru current and you get a dry climate. But the current creates fog. But Chile gets its rain from the prevailing westerlies due to its latitude. It is on a westward facing coast, so these can provide moisture for Chile and prevent it from having a dry climate, even though it is also brushed by the cool Peru current. That's why it rains in Chile but not Lima.
I love it, I live 2 km away from the North Sea in Northwest Germany. I grew up here, the temperature in the summer is bearable and the winter is mild, but often windy and rainy af. Big storms with up to 160 kph (100 mph) wind gusts are possible, but not common every year. Sometimes it is stormy for 20 days in a row. We use every second of sunshine here and I like to go for a walk in almost every weater situation, except summer heat above 25c 😂 However, the constantly high humidity is annoying, in summer you sometimes can't even get your laundry dry outside and in winter this humidity literally creeps into every crack. But I'm very used to it, when I visit my mother, who moved to south-east Germany in a much more continental climate, my skin dries out and especially on hot summer days I miss a cool breeze from the sea.
Okay I think I might like this type of climate the best. I love cloudy skies and rain. I don't like hot weather. And I love the green being everywhere all year. BTW I'm surprised Seattle isn't considered this climate but Vancouver BC is, they really do have similar weather. Must be just barely on the line. Ohhh I'm guessing the Olympic mountains block some of the westerly wind and form a kind of rain shadow and that has something to do with it.
The whole Puget Lowlands is mediterranean. It sounds weird until you experience the summers where sometimes not a drop of rain will fall for a month, and the skies are constantly sunny with 75 degree fahrenheit weather. The winters, fall, and spring are typically dreary and wet, and what most people imagine when thinking of the regions weather. The Olympics and also Vancouver island do provide somewhat of a rainshadow, and are themselves extremely wet and mild.
Love your channel and subscibed. Have been fascinated with climate for well over 50 years and my greatest regret is I missed my calling. BTW, the precip total for Auckland, NZ should reflect around 1194 mm (47 in). Bar graph is correct however.
New Zealand is *roughly* the same distance from the equator as england which means they predominantly westerly winds. Also, both are islands of *roughly* the same shape and size. I believe New Zealand's south island has a borderline semi-arid area in the interior and its northern island has a borderline humid subtropical climate. So their climates are similar but not 100% identical. I believe england's south coast tends to be ever so slightly mediterranean. The north tends to lean towards subpolar oceanic, especially the mountains.
@PeterSwinkels New Zealand is closer to the equator than uk, with roughly the same latitudes as Italy, southern island is very similar both in latitude and climates to Switzerland, it also has snow capped alps. Northern island has a unique climate, like northern Spain or Azores, still oceanic but warm enough winters to support subtropical flora.
It's looks like northern India transforms into an oceanic climate whenever it rains in winters, cause in New delhi the highs temperatures have been 12-15°C while the lows have been 7°-10°C and it rained continuously for many days, because of the continuous rain, it's the wettest January ever in recorded history here and in many parts of the Indo-Gangetic Plains!! The weather has been so gloomy too:(, I can understand you guys now haha. Also I've noticed whenever it rains in the Indian subcontinent durning winter, the climate for a brief period resembles either Oceanic/Subtropical Highland (like Quito, Bogota), cause even in Kolkata which is in the "tropics" sometimes has highs of 16-19°C whenever it rains in winter!! But I think that applies to all humid Subtropical climates, I guess.
Thanks for the locals perspective, but understand that a climate type is determined by the year overall, and not just one season. Parts of the foothills have an "oceanic" climate (that is really a Subtropical Highland climate), but the plains of India are just too hot in summer to ever be classified as Oceanic.
Small essay part 1: I live in Christchurch, New Zealand. Here it is reasonably dry with around 600mm of rain per year, with warm summer days averaging around 21c, and cool, frosty winter with daytime highs from 9-13 and 7am temperatures hovering around 2 mostly. -5 is possible once or twice a year and snowfall is quite rare as freezing temperatures usually occur on cloudless nights. There are roughly 70 ground frosts per year. Occasionally in summer, fohn winds blow over the mountains, a gusty northwesterly that dramatically increases the temperature. A few times a year, this can reach into the 30-33c range. This is often followed by a southerly change in the early evening that can drop the temperature down to the mid teens in the space of about 2 hours. Overall a very interesting climate and can vary a lot from day to day.
I live in Amsterdam, It is definitely changing. There is a reverse pattern, the scandinavian high pressure, which results in spells of continental airmasses flowing over our region. resulting in cold weather in winter and warm to hot weather in late sping and summer.. In my younger years this scandihigh appeared more frequently in winter and less so in summer. Now we see this scandihigh more in late spring and summer and less so in winter. Spring and summer are definitely getting warmer drier and sunnier, while winter is getting more boring without the longer cold spells.
See how it goes in another decade. I and others have observed that there seems to be a 10 year approx cycle in cold and snowy winters vs. milder snow-free ones.
Awesome videos! Keep 'em coming. Just wanna ask a question. In some oceanic climates such as in Vancouver, how come there are dryer summers and wetter winters? Where does the precipitation in the winter come from?
vancouver is actually Mediterranean climate but greater Vancouver half of it is in oceanic. so if you live in Vancouver city proper you will not experience rain in the summers and have clear blue skies yet if you go inland to the suburbs up the valley its less likely to be a clear ski and more likely to have rain then its city counterpart.
its actually really cool if you go there as you can really feel and see how different the climate areas are just by where you go. I live on vancouver island near Victoria which is the warmest city in Canada and simply traveling from the east side of the island (mediterranean) to the west side of the island(oceanic) you can experience a 10 to 20 degree decrees in temperature just in a 30 minute drive. its quite surreal, but on the opposite end I find its often warmer in the oceanic climate of the island in the winter than the mediterranean.
One mistake as a vancouverite is that vancouver is actually the warm summer Mediterranean climate. Has significant rain through the winter ;however, it only rains a handful of times throughout the summer.
@@liamsebestyen4983 Yup, even this year with all the La Nina the region has been quite dry. The summers are absolutely idyllic with the mild, warm weather... until the fall rains hit and don't stop until June. Guess its worth it for all the greenery though. Except when freak weather starts the floods and then the "mediterranean" classification begins to feel like a joke again.
Small essay part 2, my whole life I lived in Auckland, NZ. Summers are warm, day/night 24/17 and winters very mild at day/night 15/8. Sitting at roughly 38 degrees south it is more subtropical in latitude compared with the most of the rest of NZ. It is quite rainy, with roughly 1200mm of rain per year, spread rather consistently. Frost is rare, roughly 2-3 times per year, and snowfall is basically non-existent. Due to having seas on both the east and west sides the temperature doesn't change much due to wind direction and the weather is reasonably consistent, cloudy and rainy. Extremely hot and extremely cold weather is very rare because of its proximity to the ocean.
I never fully understood why Americans choose to do 0 (32f) instead of the original - 3c (26.6f), which we still use in Europe. I once heard that it is to make a distinction between the Westcoast and places in New England... Or is it simply the fracture? (26.6), which makes calculations more difficult...? Please enlighten me! :) Great channel by the way.
@@fccc3379 Thank you for answering such an old question! :) Why would it be such a problem if Boston were to have a Cfa climate ? (in my view it has! 😉) I still don't get that😂
I don't think the term "most northerly" makes sense in this situation, since you are covering both Northern and Southern Hemisphere in the series. "Most poleward" would make more sense.
Also, many Mediterranean are wetter than Oceanic Copenhagen. Only receiving 20.6 inches of rain it doesn’t seem Oceanic at all. Bergen for example receives more than 90 inches of rain a year!!
nice. warmish lofoten, oceanic-westerly Melbourne, Vancouver, the Celtic Sea -- all tied in some ways. You didn't cover the Oceanic Ganges Plain of India -- maybe some other time?
if you compare England, maybe ^^ Ireland has the lighest temperature in the world for a marine climate, even for day and night have an average temperature (9°-15°) with a difference of 6 degrees Celsius I think it is lighest than the tropics which have a temperature (24°-32°) with a difference of 8 degrees Celsius for day and night This is because the location of the desert and the poles are close together, what we can call it "sahara and greenland, when viewed from the map they are almost close between cold current and hot current while the position of western europe is between them maybe that's why they have a rather wet climate
Subpolar oceanic climates have less than 4 months above +10 degrees while temperate oceanic have 4 months or more above 10 degrees, so Bergen is oceanic, while Førde, 150 km further north, has a subpolar oceanic (9,5 degrees in September). I don't think it has to be above 17 degrees.
Always wondered why fjords are common to this climate all over the world... Is there some reason for that or is it just chance? I wouldn't think it would be correlated to climate aside from chance.
1. Massive mountains being created 390 million years ago. 2. During the ice age those mountains (albeit smaller) got covered by a massive glaciers and when they melted they carved the landscape, making fjords and valleys. So its pretty much by chance
I like the tropical videos you did, but wouldn't want to be in a super dense forest or in danger by something that's going to eat me or poison me :-D I would love somewhere that never goes below 60 degrees F, grows tea, turmeric, and lots of fruit and food to eat for people who are entirely plant based.
Yes I've looked at Colombia or Ecuador but haven't been yet. Colombia looks like paradise and I love cacao from Ecuador. Spanish would be easy for me to attain fluency in. I just worry about job market and stability in the region. My wife is from Kenya so that gives us a foothold there. In warm/tropical places, can you solve that problem by going up close to 1800-2000m elevation? Find a higher altitude tropical monsoon climate without too much of a dry season? Southwestern Kenya is like that around Kisumu. I was just wondering if a bit of elevation and consistent rain would keep you from having the predator issues of a low altitude rain forest. What tropical highland are you headed to? In Kenya there is both a warm summer mediterranean, tropical highland, monsoon, savannah, and rainforest... as well as a desert. They got all kinds of stuff... much like where I live now in Texas but better@@Geodiode
I look forward to some on site videos then of Colombia! Yeah living somewhere safe from large animals would be fine for us in Kenya, just getting enough rain would be the challenge and low enough elevation to grow a variety of crops. Yes the malaria and bugs would be a concern. @@Geodiode
I agree, but we want to have a permaculture food forest and grow what we like to eat which is a lot of tropical things and higher altitude tea. I do love grapes and olives though. Kenya is losing it's rainfall due to deforestation so it's going to a drier mediterranean climate in many areas. We just don't want to have to deal with weather below 16 degrees Celsius anymore/ 62 Fahrenheit. I don't mind having to have a companion dog and personal weapon or watch out for dangerous animals. The higher altitudes closer to populace really eliminates a lot of that though. Honestly, I'd take tropical rainforest, mediterranean, or tropical highland in Kenya... as long as I don't have to live in a place like Kinangop where it gets super cold at night and snows sometimes. I'm not sure if I don't like the cold because I grow more and more food or if it's because I'm 30 now. I wouldn't think only being 30 would have anything to do with it as I am very vitally healthy. I could do 4-6 weeks of chill I suppose, but 2-3 months of cooler weather even above freezing would still be just too much. That is why we were looking around Kisumu - warm and wet. @@Geodiode
there was no mention of the highlands of south brazil, which is actually the largest area with oceanic climate in south america, much larger than the areas in chile 😢
Not an omission. This is because it's actually a Subtropical Highland climate. Please watch my video "The Subtropical Question" which goes into this. It's a deficiency of the koppen system.
The Cfc climate does have some spectacular scenery such as the Scottish Highlands, Coastal Norway, the South Coast of Chile, parts of Tasmania and the South Island New Zealand, the north west coast of Canada, and the south east of Alaska.
I live in Melbourne which has milder winters and warmer summers than what is typical of Oceanic climates. During El Nino it can feel like we have a hot-summer Mediterranean climate while in La Nina we just get even more rain. Wouldn’t want to live anywhere else in the world.
Good to hear! I was there ages 4 - 6. I just remember the temperature extremes, and the rain. By the way, I talk more about "mild oceanic" in my video "The Subtropical Question" and mention specifically Melbourne there.
Hey! Very good videos. Love them! Something I would have loved to see in your video is why an Eastern city like Mar del Plata in Argentina has oceanic climate. I did understand about South-eastern Australia, however, this case is not the same. Do you have a video where you explain this? If not, could you explain that, please?
I'm confusing, is not only the mediterrenean climate that has dry summer and wet winter? it seems that in this graph, Vancouver, Auckland and Bilbao have this same feature even being oceanic.
That's because they're seasonal so they are about as cloudy as four season climates are in general. Try Azores and New Zealand and Japan. Hokkaido has a similar climate to Iceland despite it being at the same latitude as Oregon. Hachijojima Island has a very warm but extremely wet Oceanic Climate, try it.
@@Geodiode my closest friend was born + grew up + lived in Seattle until he was 25 years old , then moved to southern California (San Diego + Los Angeles) for years, then moved back to Seattle . if i tell him Seattle is same climate as California he will Laugh at me !!!!! he"s many times told me Wash/Oregon residents love the blue skies/sunshine/days without precip/etc. of Calif.. and he's also told me many times the chronic cloudiness and misting/drizzling of Seattle/NW U.S. causes more depressedness/suicides/etc. And even he told me before that their climate/weather was similar to London .
Sometimes I wonder if southern argentina would be like this if not for the western mountains, being a small land area at a latitude where the rest of the world is ocean. It would be a very mild and nice place for agriculture, but it's basically a desert as is, making Argentina a smaller agricultural country than larger countries like Brazil or the USA.
I don't consdier northern NZ this climate. Its much warmer winters, and we are only let down by cool summers (Average 18 - 20c). Auckland has an average temperature of 16c, never had snow and hardly frosts, never below 0, yet we are lumped with Alaska and Norway!!!!!!!
We are at the WARMEST end of Oceanic, average winter temperature is plus 11 degrees. Today was one of our coldest ever with a low of 1 degree and high of 12 - it was clear and mid winter with air straight from Antarctica - the coldest possible here.
Because the summers, it's very cool/coldest compared to other places at similar latitudes both in the southern hemisphere and in northern hemisphere, like it's summers are pretty cool, Ulaanbator in the northern hemisphere has a higher summer temperatures than Auckland lol, your summers are pretty cold honestly
you say it in such a merry go round way that most of the woodlands have given way to farmlands in Europe yet try to do the same in the island of Borneo and everyone's outraged
Regions where the average temperature of the coldest month is below -3°C often experience more severe winter conditions and are generally classified as having a continental climate. On the other hand, using 0°C as a threshold can encompass a wider range of climates, including some areas with milder winters that still exhibit continental climate characteristics.
I hear your nostalgia in video clearly, but for foreigners no matter if from hotter or colder parts, this zone is really depressing, constant rain, always cloudy and sunless... I myself grew in pretty rainy party of europe Lithuania, so i really would not choose this zone as my living place, maybe just for traveling.
@@Geodiode yep lithuania while its continental, more and more starting to have more oceanic zone similarities, sadly i would love it to go more in other side to subarctic part :D
I think so but if cfa has stronger tropical influence (monsoon humidity heat atleast in summer) so if that is true oceanic climates can grow some tropical plants (hardy palms)
C climates are arguably the most ideal for human civilization, which is where most humans live. Not just because of more comfortable temperature, but also ideal place to grow crops and raise livestock.
I'd say where they did in fact develop first. But we can't re-start the earth with perturbations to check that. Also places that are most likely to get civilization started might be different from places that are better for civilizations later on.
I honestly don’t know how anyone could complain about living in a cfb climate. I grew up in a dfa climate on the Great Lakes in the USA which has pretty much the same weather great weather from April-November as many cfb’s but the winters are FUCKING TERRIBLE. We have 3 whole months of daily highs of below freezing that always come with harsh winds and it’s not uncommon for us to go a week straight with daily highs of below 15F.
GeoDiode yes to me it seems like our rains come in infrequent intense bursts, a lot of times storms. There’s always a summer storm every few years that uproots a bunch of trees. I’ve heard in many oceanic places like Seattle (it may be classified as csb but it really shouldn’t be) that rains are mostly in the form of light frequent drizzles, does that sound right?
There are climates for all tastes, there are people who prefer the sun, others prefer rain and cloudy skies. Our planet has a very diverse climatic and landscape richness. I hope you can enjoy the content of the channel.
@@Ashclayton1994 oh my goodness! I wanna be your friend! I’m so sick of those people who prefer the “bEaTifuL” sunny days 🥴, I thought I’m the only one who prefer cold dark cloudy weather!
What I experience in where I just moved to in California isn’t humid, but it’s constantly dry, sunny, and hot for 4-5 months, with a combination of a gloomy drop in visibility due to smoke. It’s another kind of depressing weather
Galway on the west coast of Ireland gets twice as much rain as Dublin on the east! Ireland doesn't like to be referred to as part of the British Isles just so you know, there's only been peace since 1998 in civil war between north and south.
Yes, it's an oddball, because it's on the east coast instead of west. I omitted it, as such unusual areas that don't fit the pattern can confuse students needing simpler explanations about climate (which is what Koppen is, a simplification to enable basic patterns of climate to be appreciated).
It's a great question, and one I have wondered myself. I think it might be to do with these areas being subjected to heavy snowfalls during ice ages (being on the westerly margin of stormy seas), and hence glacial carving out of the valleys while the sea level is much lower, and then when the sea level rises again, those valleys get flooded into fjords.
In China people view this climate similar to North China Plain. Because total rainfall and hardiness zone is similar. Not exactly the view of the world haha.
@@introtwerp because the Cfb climate is similar in rainfall graph to the Cfa and Csa in terms of temperature ranges in a year since they both have westerly winds
Why does the eastern coast of Australia have oceanic climate? How can this climate be side to side with humid subtropical? It's been 3 months since I can't find an answer, 3 months looking at my imaginary maps and wondering what if do some Australia based landmass not knowing how to explain the cfa-cfb, 3 months not sleeping because I need an answer
Wouldn’t western Poland be oceanic as it doesn’t get colder than 32 here in winter except when the Siberian jet stream dips and brings temps down to -10C every couple of winter recently Poland has been a very mild 3-10C and isn’t expected to disappear soon
there are pockets of what could be more properly described as altitude Cfb climate in Italy (its the same reason why Cfb is found at tropics too: high altitudes places; but obviously for Italy the altitude needed is way less) L'Aquila 714 m Cfb en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Aquila
Yes, although probably more like a higher altitude Cfa. Did you see my video addressing these problems with the Koppen system - "The Subtropical Question"?
@@Geodiode it seems that above a certain height (it increases or decreases according to latitude 46 lat til 36 lat) the Cfb is the standard for Italy At the latitudinal range of Italy (considering that Italy receives year wise more rain than France or uk) it seems the rule that Csa evolves into Cfb according to height upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8e/Italy_K%C3%B6ppen.svg
@@Geodiode L'Aquila at 714 m is considered Cfb other places considered as Cfb: Aosta, Campobasso, Cuneo, Sondrio, Amatrice - mild. Belluno, Breno, Feltre - severe
Do you like grey skies? Do you like rain? Are you a masochist? Welcome to the Oceanic climate! 😂 Seriously, though, if you have experienced this climate on travel or because you live in these zones, let me know of your experience!
The California Mediterranean climate while near the ocean actually doesn’t even go above 25 degrees in summer on average. Sadly I live in the Humid Subtropical climate so I don’t experience either of these beautiful climates.
@sukc dolev it's not really that hot, it's just dry. Most Mediterranean climates barely reach 30C, very comfortable. I live in a monsoon climate where 30 C is daytime in winter and 35 is daytime is summer.
@sukc dolev interesting, those are some extreme temperatures, what does the night after those hot days feel like?
@sukc dolev If the place your in has usual temperatures at 45 degrees in summer, then it’s probably hot desert or hot semi desert. What country is it?
What town in Israel?
So sad, so few parts of the USA having this climate. The imagery is stunning. And I'm one of those people that loves and feels energized when it is raining.
pacific northwest is close, just has a dry summer
Yep. While winter is cool and rainy (and spring and half of autumn too) summer ends up absolutely amazing out here in The Beaver State.
Move to the UK, mate.
Well, you would get tired of it as where I live in fall months it is raining 2 months straight without stopping, and in winter is as cold as greenland because of the high humidity
Go to the Pacific Northwest!!!!! It rains a lot there
I was born and raised in Colmar, France, which you mention a video extract of in your video :)
It has a oceanic climate, which however distinguishes a bit from the rest of France, because of rain shadow from the Vosges and its inland position : as a consequence it is drier, and its winters are colder.
Non-mediterranean southern France experiences more and more a climate that is technically humid subtropical (summer monthes >22°C) : Lyons, Toulouse, Avignon, Grenoble, etc.. Their summers are too hot to be considered oceanic, and too humid to be considered mediterranean. Global warming increases this phenomenon.
@@Geodiode Also, even though most of southern China falls under the Cfa and Cwa climate classifications, a pedantic climate scientist would colour southern China into polka dots. There are places where the mountain rainshadow is so profound that the surrounding areas are much closer to Dfa than Cfa, most notably Sichuan. Others have high enough altitude to exhibit year-round Cfb or even Cwb conditions in areas that are otherwise Cfa.
@@Geodiode hi can you suggest a good book or other resources to study climatology and delve deeper in the subject? thanks
@@TheLucidDreamer12 Subtropical Highland Climate for you
Geodiode produced that in Episode 3
This whole series is so well made and turns the entire topic into a fun activity. Thank you so much for all the hard work you must have put in making these gems!
melbourne is also a rare hybrid of this climate and a mediteranean climate. the summers get really hot and dry. record high was 47 degrees. but still doesnt feel as hot as a tropical climate.
I think dry heat during an occasional mild heatwave is the best esp given the lower rainfalls in summer in most oceanic climates!
not the one that hit the UK in July 2022, I am referring to a typical heatwave that lasts for a few days
I love these videos of yours! I find oceanic climates particularly interesting because of all the land, particularly small islands, in the southern hemisphere that lie in the roaring forties and beyond, those extremely isolated places are so fascinating to me. Can't wait for your next video!
I live in an Oceanic zone in South eastern Australia, but really anything can happen, except snow! In January it can Often breach 40*C, but are usually in the high 20s I believe the average day-night temperature in January is just below 22*C which is the humid subtropical-Oceanic borderline. Temperatures below 0*C are extremally rare and only ever occour at the end of June. There are more rainy days in winter, especially July and August, and summer doesn't usually have many rainy days, but when it does rain, it rains a lot! And can even lead to floods! I can remember in my childhood just after Christmas that we had 60ml of rain in a single day! it caused a small bridge over a creek to collapse! Leading to a seven year project to build a new, safer bridge. Because of the evergreen trees, Autumn feels just like spring, and only, introduced trees drop their leaves in April. We often just call the season, Easter!
G'dau Tristan, and thanks for the detailed local perspective. I spent about 2 years in Melbourne when I was very young, and all I remember is the rain, compared to much drier Adelaide, where we moved to afterwards.
There is more on this climate, with a specific mention of your region in my new video here: ua-cam.com/video/uPx2tuM4W3c/v-deo.html
it can snow in melbourne, between 2-10 times every 10 years in the higher parts of the city and 2-5 times in the lower parts and it has to be very very cold except in the dandenongs which are part of melbourne, they get annual snowfall 3 times a year
The cloudy sky is the main issue with this climate. Aside from that, I love it.
Would you still like it as much if you had to ride your bike despite the rain and wind on a daily basis? 😊
@@PeterSwinkels I do ride my bike daily despite wind and rain (and hills !)
I live in an oceanic climate but with a continental twist, temperatures are warmer in summer and colder and in winter. Deep Galicia.
Parts of Scotland, Norway, and Iceland contain Taiga biome, and Tundra aswell. Parts of Chile, Tasmania, and New Zealand have tundra.
In New Zealand, you only find Tundra above 1500m and on the subantarctic Auckland and Campbell Islands hundreds of kilometres south of the mainland. The north of our country has palm trees and we grow bananas and taro - its hardly tundratic.
@@Moneytane1976 exactly, Chile on the other hand has tundra climate on sea level
Such a shame that mountains in the Americas block this climate from going more inland. A green Patagonia where Cfb becomes Cfc as you go south would be really cool and probably densely populated.
Yeah, I do hate the Cascades haha Although, without them, I guess most of the estern parts of Washington, Oregon, Idaho, and probably some parts of Montana and Wyoming would be csb or csa but not cfb (basically looking like the Idaho Panhandle). Cfb might occur in British Columbia without the rainshadows (or at least Dfb similar to Poland or Sweden). That kind of North America would be really cool!
This discussion brought something back up that I used to think about and hate, and that's how in Chile rainfall begins to increase and become more influenced by the westerlies in the southern hemisphere past 35 s and many places in southern chile are oceanic and not desert. Even on a map you can see it get greener past 35 s. Eventually past 42 s the amount of flat land decreases and gives way to hilly fjords and carved saltwater rivers which would be difficult for agricultural development and transportation. I find this to be a direct result of the Nazca plate forcing land upward in south america in the patagonian region and thus blocking prevailing winds with a ton of moisture from getting to the regions past the Andes and creating a massive rain shadow over argentina. This turns the area between Ushuaia and Buenos Aires into a desert region that could have been a large temperate rainforest. It would have been interesting to see something like this because if would make rare endemic species more widespread and allowed for further development in the southern hemisphere.
Sometimes mountain placement can be convenient for one region but make it inconvenient for another, and the Andes just block most, if not all the rainfall from the prevailing winds from crossing into Argentina.
It's kind of like Cascadia but in the southern hemisphere and the height of the Andes creates this huge rain shadow too just like Cascadia.
@@arcturus9366 I know, I also hate the Andes that run through Chile for that reason. As for the climate that Patagonia could have, most of it would probably have a csb climate like that of the city of El Bolsón in Argentina, with probably some csc, cfb, and cfc at the bottom. Now, I've even thought of the possibility of blowing the mountains with explosives haha, but it is full of volcanoes so I guess that makes it extra difficult.
Finally, something that also sucks about the Patagonia is that, because it is the only landmass at those latitudes, it has some of the strongest winds in the world and that would also affect it's vegetation.
In the end, I think that Patagonia (like the Pacific Northwest) is one of the most interesting and uniques regions of the world, yet it's unfortunate geography leaves us with a lot of barren desert and some interesting microclimates close to the mountains.
@@arcturus9366 Funnily enough though, those very same mountains and deserts that you hate so much heavily isolated Chile for a long time, allowing for ancient Gondwanan species to survive without a whole lot of outside competition. Meanwhile a handful of species _did_ manage to make it through to become unique and contribute to Chile's very odd and wonderful biota.
Without the mountains along the western coasts of the Americas I imagine that the region would look a lot more like western Europe, which I find to be incredibly boring.
I am from Chile and I live in New Zealand. Chile is beautiful but New Zealand has one of the greenest grasses in the world
GeoDiode of course. New Zealand is like chile and argentina from Talca or Rio Negro until Coyhayque. On the eastern South Island is dry like southern Argentina. On the west coast South Island is wet as Chiloe. North island is a mix of both countries, quite warm and humid on summers and cool and damp on winters.
have you been to the south of Chile??
LOL, someday I plan on living in New Zealand and visiting Chile. I just love subtropical and oceanic climates, and especially the Gondwanan biota. Unfortunately New Zealand didn't do quite as good of a job as Chile at preserving all the temperate forest, much of that grassland was once all forest except for the east coast of the South Island.
Great job as always, I love how green the oceanic regions are, it's so beautiful.
@@Geodiode I find it very fitting that most Köppen maps basically use the average colour of the plant life for the temperate climate regions.
Also in Turkey, Black Sea Region has a very similar climate to the Oceanic despite being in the Mediterranean zone, due to its higher altitude.
The region is one of the biggest producers of black tea in the world.
Yet, the region covers a relatively small area. So I think it's just a micro climate thing.
Btw the series is amazing. I'd been looking for something like this for a long time, big thanks.
@@Geodiode Oh great! I look forward to that episode.
Must be why they drink so much tea in turkey
I live in Vancouver! And it's a very pretty city but miserable - it's been raining nearly every day since November and will continue to do so through January and most likely Feb as well. Vancouver gets a lot more rain than London (it's a temperate rainforest) so I suppose it's not a typical representative of an oceanic climate,but I really prefer a drier and, more importantly, sunnier continental climate. Sure it might get to -20 in the hinterlands but you can wrap up against the cold, whereas the Vancouver wet manages to get through your waterproof clothing...and all the buses are full of people that smell like wet sheep. Ugh. Guess the grass is always greener on the other side
GeoDiode Vancouver’s climate is more comparable with Scotland, than with London.
vancouver is actually mediterranean climate, that's why we often have water restrictions in the summer, Vancouvers suburbs are oceanic though
@@thephoenix3155 people in vancouver swim in the ocean year round and experienced 40 degrees Celsius this summer I don't think you can compare it with either
Ulanbataar is a more continental, drier, and sunnier climate.
@@jamescoulson7729 northern suburbs are more oceanic. I think the southern parts near Tsawassan and Point Roberts is that warm summer mediterranean.
Nice video. I get to experience this climate daily. 😀 The rain and clouds do get a little tiresome at times.
I live in Melbourne, its quite warm comparatively to the other oceanic climate regions. Winters have days between 12C - 18C depending on direction of the wind, summers can get up to 40C-45C Regularly each summer, but yes it is still changeable in the summer time and occasionally we are impacted by cool westerly winds or even humid north easterly's so we can have a Mediterranean style summer or a humid subtropical summer, it varies year to year.
there hasnt been a 40c+ day in melbourne in years 😂
Melbourne is really humid subtropical climate (Cfa)
Something I don't understand is that in Lima we got a cool ocean but it never rains it only creates a fog but no rain whereas Chile has a cooler sea and it does rain there
Lima is blocked from the easterly trades by the Andes, preventing almost all moisture from reaching Lima. Combine that with the cool Peru current and you get a dry climate. But the current creates fog.
But Chile gets its rain from the prevailing westerlies due to its latitude. It is on a westward facing coast, so these can provide moisture for Chile and prevent it from having a dry climate, even though it is also brushed by the cool Peru current. That's why it rains in Chile but not Lima.
New Zealand leeward sides also have beautiful countryside with grassy hills, sheep, and cattle.
GeoDiode that’s really interesting to hear that additional observation. (Kiwi here.) Loving your videos.
The climate type I love most is Cfb. ❤
But I now live in Aw climate.
Yeap, Cfb climate is so pleasant year round.That's why I love it.
I have a plan to go to UK.
I feel excited for its comfortable climate. 😊
Csb climate is the best in my opinion because it is very pretty with reliable summers.
Dfb and Dwb is my favorite. I think winter temp need to be cool below the freezing point.
I love it, I live 2 km away from the North Sea in Northwest Germany. I grew up here, the temperature in the summer is bearable and the winter is mild, but often windy and rainy af. Big storms with up to 160 kph (100 mph) wind gusts are possible, but not common every year. Sometimes it is stormy for 20 days in a row. We use every second of sunshine here and I like to go for a walk in almost every weater situation, except summer heat above 25c 😂 However, the constantly high humidity is annoying, in summer you sometimes can't even get your laundry dry outside and in winter this humidity literally creeps into every crack. But I'm very used to it, when I visit my mother, who moved to south-east Germany in a much more continental climate, my skin dries out and especially on hot summer days I miss a cool breeze from the sea.
I just subscribed. I love videos like this!! Question, is Florida a subtropical climate crossed with a tropical rainforest climate?
Most of Florida is subtropical with the extream southern tip being tropical savannah
Okay I think I might like this type of climate the best. I love cloudy skies and rain. I don't like hot weather. And I love the green being everywhere all year. BTW I'm surprised Seattle isn't considered this climate but Vancouver BC is, they really do have similar weather. Must be just barely on the line.
Ohhh I'm guessing the Olympic mountains block some of the westerly wind and form a kind of rain shadow and that has something to do with it.
Vancouver is on the line. It's wet year round but has noticeably less rain in summer. Classic Oceanic has a flat rainfall curve year round.
The whole Puget Lowlands is mediterranean. It sounds weird until you experience the summers where sometimes not a drop of rain will fall for a month, and the skies are constantly sunny with 75 degree fahrenheit weather. The winters, fall, and spring are typically dreary and wet, and what most people imagine when thinking of the regions weather. The Olympics and also Vancouver island do provide somewhat of a rainshadow, and are themselves extremely wet and mild.
@@Geodiode Isnt that why some say Vancouver is Csb?
Great informative video
Love your channel and subscibed. Have been fascinated with climate for well over 50 years and my greatest regret is I missed my calling.
BTW, the precip total for Auckland, NZ should reflect around 1194 mm (47 in). Bar graph is correct however.
Ben, please make a video about why the UK and New Zealand have similar climates?
New Zealand is *roughly* the same distance from the equator as england which means they predominantly westerly winds. Also, both are islands of *roughly* the same shape and size. I believe New Zealand's south island has a borderline semi-arid area in the interior and its northern island has a borderline humid subtropical climate. So their climates are similar but not 100% identical. I believe england's south coast tends to be ever so slightly mediterranean. The north tends to lean towards subpolar oceanic, especially the mountains.
@PeterSwinkels
New Zealand is closer to the equator than uk, with roughly the same latitudes as Italy, southern island is very similar both in latitude and climates to Switzerland, it also has snow capped alps.
Northern island has a unique climate, like northern Spain or Azores, still oceanic but warm enough winters to support subtropical flora.
It's looks like northern India transforms into an oceanic climate whenever it rains in winters, cause in New delhi the highs temperatures have been 12-15°C while the lows have been 7°-10°C and it rained continuously for many days, because of the continuous rain, it's the wettest January ever in recorded history here and in many parts of the Indo-Gangetic Plains!! The weather has been so gloomy too:(, I can understand you guys now haha. Also I've noticed whenever it rains in the Indian subcontinent durning winter, the climate for a brief period resembles either Oceanic/Subtropical Highland (like Quito, Bogota), cause even in Kolkata which is in the "tropics" sometimes has highs of 16-19°C whenever it rains in winter!! But I think that applies to all humid Subtropical climates, I guess.
Thanks for the locals perspective, but understand that a climate type is determined by the year overall, and not just one season. Parts of the foothills have an "oceanic" climate (that is really a Subtropical Highland climate), but the plains of India are just too hot in summer to ever be classified as Oceanic.
@@Geodiode Yep I know:), that's why I said for a brief period of time
09:52 I hate to be the nerd but no, Iceland isn’t even touching the Arctic circle
40km away in an ocean thousands of km across. Ok, that's a quibble. Happy?
Small essay part 1: I live in Christchurch, New Zealand. Here it is reasonably dry with around 600mm of rain per year, with warm summer days averaging around 21c, and cool, frosty winter with daytime highs from 9-13 and 7am temperatures hovering around 2 mostly. -5 is possible once or twice a year and snowfall is quite rare as freezing temperatures usually occur on cloudless nights. There are roughly 70 ground frosts per year.
Occasionally in summer, fohn winds blow over the mountains, a gusty northwesterly that dramatically increases the temperature. A few times a year, this can reach into the 30-33c range. This is often followed by a southerly change in the early evening that can drop the temperature down to the mid teens in the space of about 2 hours.
Overall a very interesting climate and can vary a lot from day to day.
I live in Amsterdam, It is definitely changing. There is a reverse pattern, the scandinavian high pressure, which results in spells of continental airmasses flowing over our region. resulting in cold weather in winter and warm to hot weather in late sping and summer.. In my younger years this scandihigh appeared more frequently in winter and less so in summer. Now we see this scandihigh more in late spring and summer and less so in winter. Spring and summer are definitely getting warmer drier and sunnier, while winter is getting more boring without the longer cold spells.
See how it goes in another decade. I and others have observed that there seems to be a 10 year approx cycle in cold and snowy winters vs. milder snow-free ones.
I have been to Victoria Australia's coast!
Early spring was so nice!
Awesome videos! Keep 'em coming. Just wanna ask a question. In some oceanic climates such as in Vancouver, how come there are dryer summers and wetter winters? Where does the precipitation in the winter come from?
vancouver is actually Mediterranean climate but greater Vancouver half of it is in oceanic. so if you live in Vancouver city proper you will not experience rain in the summers and have clear blue skies yet if you go inland to the suburbs up the valley its less likely to be a clear ski and more likely to have rain then its city counterpart.
its actually really cool if you go there as you can really feel and see how different the climate areas are just by where you go. I live on vancouver island near Victoria which is the warmest city in Canada and simply traveling from the east side of the island (mediterranean) to the west side of the island(oceanic) you can experience a 10 to 20 degree decrees in temperature just in a 30 minute drive. its quite surreal, but on the opposite end I find its often warmer in the oceanic climate of the island in the winter than the mediterranean.
One mistake as a vancouverite is that vancouver is actually the warm summer Mediterranean climate. Has significant rain through the winter ;however, it only rains a handful of times throughout the summer.
Thanks for the voice of sanity among the catcalls of "IT'S OCEANIC"! These people need to spend a year in the UK, then they'll get the difference! ;)
@@Geodiode so agree with you. Im from vancouver and it rains perhaps 4 times per summer, i guess far more than california.
@@liamsebestyen4983 Yup, even this year with all the La Nina the region has been quite dry. The summers are absolutely idyllic with the mild, warm weather... until the fall rains hit and don't stop until June. Guess its worth it for all the greenery though. Except when freak weather starts the floods and then the "mediterranean" classification begins to feel like a joke again.
Small essay part 2, my whole life I lived in Auckland, NZ. Summers are warm, day/night 24/17 and winters very mild at day/night 15/8. Sitting at roughly 38 degrees south it is more subtropical in latitude compared with the most of the rest of NZ. It is quite rainy, with roughly 1200mm of rain per year, spread rather consistently. Frost is rare, roughly 2-3 times per year, and snowfall is basically non-existent.
Due to having seas on both the east and west sides the temperature doesn't change much due to wind direction and the weather is reasonably consistent, cloudy and rainy.
Extremely hot and extremely cold weather is very rare because of its proximity to the ocean.
For me, the best type of climate
This is really good, enjoyed it a lot and subscribed!!
Will do! Can I ask where you got that earth-rotating animation at 5:17? I've been looking for something just like it!
All good! Can't wait for more videos!
From South-East Australia, so I particularly enjoyed that bit in this video, you did a great job!
I never fully understood why Americans choose to do 0 (32f) instead of the original - 3c (26.6f), which we still use in Europe. I once heard that it is to make a distinction between the Westcoast and places in New England...
Or is it simply the fracture? (26.6), which makes calculations more difficult...?
Please enlighten me! :)
Great channel by the way.
Yeah I personally prefer the 26.6F isotherm. Then again it ends up making much of the New England areas and cities like Boston a Cfa instead of Dfa.
@@fccc3379 Thank you for answering such an old question! :) Why would it be such a problem if Boston were to have a Cfa climate ? (in my view it has! 😉) I still don't get that😂
@@torrawel I say I stick with 0C/32F because of the damage to plants when we face a freeze
Love the video and explanation
I don't think the term "most northerly" makes sense in this situation, since you are covering both Northern and Southern Hemisphere in the series. "Most poleward" would make more sense.
Grew up in Dfa, but my heart belongs to Cfb
I’m very surprised to see that London has less rain in total than San Francisco.
And Lisbon!
Also, many Mediterranean are wetter than Oceanic Copenhagen. Only receiving 20.6 inches of rain it doesn’t seem Oceanic at all. Bergen for example receives more than 90 inches of rain a year!!
The clear difference here is windward oceanic, and leeward oceanic climates.
nice. warmish lofoten, oceanic-westerly Melbourne, Vancouver, the Celtic Sea -- all tied in some ways. You didn't cover the Oceanic Ganges Plain of India -- maybe some other time?
Love these videos! Keep them up!
@@Geodiodecan you make one on sea tempretures around the world 😍
What about the other zones with oceanic climates? I found curious that there was a big portion of it along the Andes in Colombia, near the equator...
That is subtropical Highland climate. Watch my video "the subtropical question" for an explanation
if you compare England, maybe ^^ Ireland has the lighest temperature in the world for a marine climate,
even for day and night have an average temperature (9°-15°) with a difference of 6 degrees Celsius
I think it is lighest than the tropics which have a temperature (24°-32°) with a difference of 8 degrees Celsius for
day and night
This is because the location of the desert and the poles are close together,
what we can call it "sahara and greenland,
when viewed from the map they are almost close
between cold current and hot current
while the position of western europe is between them
maybe that's why they have a rather wet climate
Subpolar oceanic climates have less than 4 months above +10 degrees while temperate oceanic have 4 months or more above 10 degrees, so Bergen is oceanic, while Førde, 150 km further north, has a subpolar oceanic (9,5 degrees in September). I don't think it has to be above 17 degrees.
Always wondered why fjords are common to this climate all over the world... Is there some reason for that or is it just chance? I wouldn't think it would be correlated to climate aside from chance.
1. Massive mountains being created 390 million years ago.
2. During the ice age those mountains (albeit smaller) got covered by a massive glaciers and when they melted they carved the landscape, making fjords and valleys.
So its pretty much by chance
What about the Cfc highlands of tasmania & excellent job!
I like the tropical videos you did, but wouldn't want to be in a super dense forest or in danger by something that's going to eat me or poison me :-D I would love somewhere that never goes below 60 degrees F, grows tea, turmeric, and lots of fruit and food to eat for people who are entirely plant based.
Yes I've looked at Colombia or Ecuador but haven't been yet. Colombia looks like paradise and I love cacao from Ecuador. Spanish would be easy for me to attain fluency in. I just worry about job market and stability in the region. My wife is from Kenya so that gives us a foothold there.
In warm/tropical places, can you solve that problem by going up close to 1800-2000m elevation? Find a higher altitude tropical monsoon climate without too much of a dry season? Southwestern Kenya is like that around Kisumu. I was just wondering if a bit of elevation and consistent rain would keep you from having the predator issues of a low altitude rain forest.
What tropical highland are you headed to? In Kenya there is both a warm summer mediterranean, tropical highland, monsoon, savannah, and rainforest... as well as a desert. They got all kinds of stuff... much like where I live now in Texas but better@@Geodiode
I look forward to some on site videos then of Colombia! Yeah living somewhere safe from large animals would be fine for us in Kenya, just getting enough rain would be the challenge and low enough elevation to grow a variety of crops. Yes the malaria and bugs would be a concern. @@Geodiode
I agree, but we want to have a permaculture food forest and grow what we like to eat which is a lot of tropical things and higher altitude tea. I do love grapes and olives though. Kenya is losing it's rainfall due to deforestation so it's going to a drier mediterranean climate in many areas. We just don't want to have to deal with weather below 16 degrees Celsius anymore/ 62 Fahrenheit. I don't mind having to have a companion dog and personal weapon or watch out for dangerous animals. The higher altitudes closer to populace really eliminates a lot of that though. Honestly, I'd take tropical rainforest, mediterranean, or tropical highland in Kenya... as long as I don't have to live in a place like Kinangop where it gets super cold at night and snows sometimes.
I'm not sure if I don't like the cold because I grow more and more food or if it's because I'm 30 now. I wouldn't think only being 30 would have anything to do with it as I am very vitally healthy. I could do 4-6 weeks of chill I suppose, but 2-3 months of cooler weather even above freezing would still be just too much. That is why we were looking around Kisumu - warm and wet. @@Geodiode
@@TheVigilantStewards I’d recommend you watch the subtropical highland video if you want to get a better understanding.
I know I partially asked this in the Med video, but is there a clear latitudinal line of division between CSB & CFB ?
GeoDiode thank you!
there was no mention of the highlands of south brazil, which is actually the largest area with oceanic climate in south america, much larger than the areas in chile 😢
Not an omission. This is because it's actually a Subtropical Highland climate. Please watch my video "The Subtropical Question" which goes into this. It's a deficiency of the koppen system.
Muito bom
Beautiful 😍
GeoDiode Cfb is nice, Cfc is my favorite, with rain year round and long, humid, gloomy winters and short, bright summers ☺️!
Best regards, Cyprien.
GeoDiode Well I LOVE it ! Probably an atypical guy this Cyprien ;) !
The Cfc climate does have some spectacular scenery such as the Scottish Highlands, Coastal Norway, the South Coast of Chile, parts of Tasmania and the South Island New Zealand, the north west coast of Canada, and the south east of Alaska.
I love this climate to be honest
It's where I live, and is my second favourite, after Mediterranean
@@Geodiode they are both great tbh!
@@Geodiode My favourite is the Humid Subtropical
I live in Melbourne which has milder winters and warmer summers than what is typical of Oceanic climates. During El Nino it can feel like we have a hot-summer Mediterranean climate while in La Nina we just get even more rain. Wouldn’t want to live anywhere else in the world.
Good to hear! I was there ages 4 - 6. I just remember the temperature extremes, and the rain. By the way, I talk more about "mild oceanic" in my video "The Subtropical Question" and mention specifically Melbourne there.
I always thought Seattle and Portland were Cfb until I read deeper into it.
Hey! Very good videos. Love them! Something I would have loved to see in your video is why an Eastern city like Mar del Plata in Argentina has oceanic climate. I did understand about South-eastern Australia, however, this case is not the same. Do you have a video where you explain this? If not, could you explain that, please?
I'm confusing, is not only the mediterrenean climate that has dry summer and wet winter? it seems that in this graph, Vancouver, Auckland and Bilbao have this same feature even being oceanic.
@@Geodiode I got you, thank you for answer
Aren’t those places at the cfb/csb border?
you forgot to add Seattle, WA and Portland, OR . the west coastal areas of Washington state and Oregon state are also Oceanic/Maritime climate .
That's because they're seasonal so they are about as cloudy as four season climates are in general. Try Azores and New Zealand and Japan. Hokkaido has a similar climate to Iceland despite it being at the same latitude as Oregon. Hachijojima Island has a very warm but extremely wet Oceanic Climate, try it.
SylkaChan Iceland is actually warmer than Hokkaido due to the Gulf Stream.
@@Geodiode my closest friend was born + grew up + lived in Seattle until he was 25 years old , then moved to southern California (San Diego + Los Angeles) for years, then moved back to Seattle . if i tell him Seattle is same climate as California he will Laugh at me !!!!! he"s many times told me Wash/Oregon residents love the blue skies/sunshine/days without precip/etc. of Calif.. and he's also told me many times the chronic cloudiness and misting/drizzling of Seattle/NW U.S. causes more depressedness/suicides/etc. And even he told me before that their climate/weather was similar to London .
I moved from gqkveston tx to seattle. I used to hate summer but now i live summer
Sometimes I wonder if southern argentina would be like this if not for the western mountains, being a small land area at a latitude where the rest of the world is ocean. It would be a very mild and nice place for agriculture, but it's basically a desert as is, making Argentina a smaller agricultural country than larger countries like Brazil or the USA.
That's basically how it would be sans Andes!
Thank god i live in the subtropics
The loire valley/new zealand have the best climate in the world. Doesn't go above 30, very rarely goes bellow 5, perfect.
Why is Vancouver Cfb?
Strictly by Koppen its Csb
I live in the UK so I live in the temperate maritime, marine west coast or oceanic climate (Cfb).
I don't consdier northern NZ this climate. Its much warmer winters, and we are only let down by cool summers (Average 18 - 20c). Auckland has an average temperature of 16c, never had snow and hardly frosts, never below 0, yet we are lumped with Alaska and Norway!!!!!!!
We are at the WARMEST end of Oceanic, average winter temperature is plus 11 degrees. Today was one of our coldest ever with a low of 1 degree and high of 12 - it was clear and mid winter with air straight from Antarctica - the coldest possible here.
Because the summers, it's very cool/coldest compared to other places at similar latitudes both in the southern hemisphere and in northern hemisphere, like it's summers are pretty cool, Ulaanbator in the northern hemisphere has a higher summer temperatures than Auckland lol, your summers are pretty cold honestly
you say it in such a merry go round way that most of the woodlands have given way to farmlands in Europe yet try to do the same in the island of Borneo and everyone's outraged
What's your take on which winter isotherm should be used to divide temperate C climates from continental D climates? -3 or 0?
Regions where the average temperature of the coldest month is below -3°C often experience more severe winter conditions and are generally classified as having a continental climate. On the other hand, using 0°C as a threshold can encompass a wider range of climates, including some areas with milder winters that still exhibit continental climate characteristics.
Your video are better than awesome
And this is my mom's favorite and my second favorite climate
Plus I visited Tasmania
I hear your nostalgia in video clearly, but for foreigners no matter if from hotter or colder parts, this zone is really depressing, constant rain, always cloudy and sunless... I myself grew in pretty rainy party of europe Lithuania, so i really would not choose this zone as my living place, maybe just for traveling.
@@Geodiode yep lithuania while its continental, more and more starting to have more oceanic zone similarities, sadly i would love it to go more in other side to subarctic part :D
there are oceanic climates where they receive a lot of sunshine like melbourne and auckland
@@NostalgicMem0ries yep, with climate change, the continental climate is being pushed further inland, and oceanic zone being pushed north east
What about boone NC?
So this climate is basically a Cfa except It doesn’t get as hot?? (Sorry for all the excessive comments lol)
I think so but if cfa has stronger tropical influence (monsoon humidity heat atleast in summer) so if that is true oceanic climates can grow some tropical plants (hardy palms)
good
Seattle, Portland, and Juneau.
I feel like Taiwan has some interesting weather patterns.
@@anotherdavidc Portland and Seattle are oceanic temperatures with mediterranean rainfall pattern hence warm summer mediterranean Csb
which climate zone is the most ideal for the development of human civilisations?
Probs cfb and dfb
Cfa (Humid Subtropical). Is the climate where most humans live
C climates are arguably the most ideal for human civilization, which is where most humans live. Not just because of more comfortable temperature, but also ideal place to grow crops and raise livestock.
I'd say where they did in fact develop first. But we can't re-start the earth with perturbations to check that.
Also places that are most likely to get civilization started might be different from places that are better for civilizations later on.
@raphlvlogs271, its the Humid Subtropical Cfa and Cwa
I honestly don’t know how anyone could complain about living in a cfb climate. I grew up in a dfa climate on the Great Lakes in the USA which has pretty much the same weather great weather from April-November as many cfb’s but the winters are FUCKING TERRIBLE. We have 3 whole months of daily highs of below freezing that always come with harsh winds and it’s not uncommon for us to go a week straight with daily highs of below 15F.
GeoDiode yes to me it seems like our rains come in infrequent intense bursts, a lot of times storms. There’s always a summer storm every few years that uproots a bunch of trees. I’ve heard in many oceanic places like Seattle (it may be classified as csb but it really shouldn’t be) that rains are mostly in the form of light frequent drizzles, does that sound right?
I am not sure which I would choose, just above freezing, constant rain and cold wind or just dry freezing weather.
I’m surprised London only gets 600mm of rain per year
Many are. In fact, Lisbon has more rain than London each year - they just get most of it in winter!
@@Geodiodeno wonder London is at risk of water shortages as the climate crisis intensifies
Depressing most of the year
There are climates for all tastes, there are people who prefer the sun, others prefer rain and cloudy skies. Our planet has a very diverse climatic and landscape richness. I hope you can enjoy the content of the channel.
Depends on the person, I have reverse seasonal affective disorder and to me hot humid sunny weather is depressing and prefer cold dark cloudy weather
@@Ashclayton1994 oh my goodness! I wanna be your friend! I’m so sick of those people who prefer the “bEaTifuL” sunny days 🥴, I thought I’m the only one who prefer cold dark cloudy weather!
What I experience in where I just moved to in California isn’t humid, but it’s constantly dry, sunny, and hot for 4-5 months, with a combination of a gloomy drop in visibility due to smoke. It’s another kind of depressing weather
@@Ashclayton1994 How did that happen? Did something fall on your head?
Galway on the west coast of Ireland gets twice as much rain as Dublin on the east!
Ireland doesn't like to be referred to as part of the British Isles just so you know, there's only been peace since 1998 in civil war between north and south.
wait wasn't Cfb included in the subtropical highlands?
Yes, watch "The Subtropical Question" that compares this same Koppen code in two different climate regions.
That map is wrong regarding the western region of both Oregon and Washington state. They both have an oceanic climate.
No
Rainfall graphs show its Csb!
Mar del Plata in Argentina has oceanic climate.
Yes, it's an oddball, because it's on the east coast instead of west. I omitted it, as such unusual areas that don't fit the pattern can confuse students needing simpler explanations about climate (which is what Koppen is, a simplification to enable basic patterns of climate to be appreciated).
@@GeodiodeCape Cod is also an oddball Cfb East Coast because of moderating influence of the Cape Cod Bay and the Atlantic
At 0:08 which is the place?
Tq:)
Would SW Sweden be continental or oceanic, it's more mild, green and humid then Bavaria for sure.
@@Geodiode January average temp in Falsterbo is 0.4C.
@@SossarHatarSverigesame in Gothenburg
Howcome there are sections of this climate in eastern Argentina and Brazil, because they wouldn’t have westerly winds coming in off the coast
Watch my video "The Subtropical Question" which covers this
You forget Blacksea region of Turkey
@@Geodiode Oh i see . Thanks . İ just expected you could say cause black sea is too fae from oceans
Why are the occeanic climate have deep valleys and great coast lines?
It's a great question, and one I have wondered myself. I think it might be to do with these areas being subjected to heavy snowfalls during ice ages (being on the westerly margin of stormy seas), and hence glacial carving out of the valleys while the sea level is much lower, and then when the sea level rises again, those valleys get flooded into fjords.
@@Geodiode thank you bossman looking forward for you to do more videos may I offer some advice on topics?
Doesnt Northern Spain also have fjords?
There are some flooded estuaries there, but nothing like the U-shaped valleys you see in S Chile, Norway and NZ.
0:59 where is that?
Rhine River, Germany. Don't know the exact location beyond that.
Are there any in Brazil?
In China people view this climate similar to North China Plain. Because total rainfall and hardiness zone is similar. Not exactly the view of the world haha.
@@Geodiode Yeah. In China NE is viewed as very cold. North China Plain is viewed as a bit cold.
Yes im confused because some ppl say oceanic is same like humid subtropical /csa without hot summer
@@introtwerp because the Cfb climate is similar in rainfall graph to the Cfa and Csa in terms of temperature ranges in a year since they both have westerly winds
@@perrylim9728 oh yes that’s true
It seems like Israel's climate is becoming more oceanic, more humid summers and colder winters.
Why does the eastern coast of Australia have oceanic climate? How can this climate be side to side with humid subtropical? It's been 3 months since I can't find an answer, 3 months looking at my imaginary maps and wondering what if do some Australia based landmass not knowing how to explain the cfa-cfb, 3 months not sleeping because I need an answer
Please watch my video "The Subtropical Question", the last few minutes of which address what's going on in SE Australia. Hopefully this will help
pov: ur in school
Wouldn’t western Poland be oceanic as it doesn’t get colder than 32 here in winter except when the Siberian jet stream dips and brings temps down to -10C every couple of winter recently Poland has been a very mild 3-10C and isn’t expected to disappear soon
there are pockets of what could be more properly described as altitude Cfb climate in Italy (its the same reason why Cfb is found at tropics too: high altitudes places; but obviously for Italy the altitude needed is way less)
L'Aquila 714 m Cfb en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Aquila
Yes, although probably more like a higher altitude Cfa. Did you see my video addressing these problems with the Koppen system - "The Subtropical Question"?
@@Geodiode
it seems that above a certain height (it increases or decreases according to latitude 46 lat til 36 lat) the Cfb is the standard for Italy
At the latitudinal range of Italy (considering that Italy receives year wise more rain than France or uk) it seems the rule that Csa evolves into Cfb according to height
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8e/Italy_K%C3%B6ppen.svg
@@Geodiode
L'Aquila at 714 m is considered Cfb
other places considered as Cfb:
Aosta, Campobasso, Cuneo, Sondrio, Amatrice - mild. Belluno, Breno, Feltre - severe
@@g.c.2916 yes, this phenomenon can occur in upland areas, which reduces the average summer temperature, so "hot" summers become "warm".
@@Geodiodewelcome to the Subtropical Highlands!