Inspiration for "Fatal Attraction" | Carolyn Warmus Case Analysis
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- Опубліковано 7 тра 2022
- This video answers the question: Can I analyze the case of Carolyn Warmus?
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This case is a perfect example of why you should not have affairs outside of marriage. You have no idea how stable your lover might be and it could cost your spouse their life. A better idea would be to find out what the problems are in your marriage or maybe get a divorce.
So true.💯
this is such a stretch haha. you dont know who anyone really is.. should you not make friendships..date new people because they might turn out to be murderers? Theres many better reasons to not have an affair than this imo lol
@@itssmariaaaa I do background checks on people who want to be more than acquaintances.
@@itssmariaaaa When there are three people in a relationship meant for two, it's a very different situation than two single people beginning to date each other. A big(!) percentage of murders happen because there's one person too many in a marriage. Jealousy, betrayal, rage, hatred and financial issues are strong motives for murder for a lot of people. That's why the police always look at the spouses or significant others first in murder cases. If they find a third person in that relationship, they have the most common cluster of motives known to man. That's the reality of the topic. FYI: Most people won't see acknowledging factual reality as a "stretch".
Lifelong monogomy is unrealistic
I love the way Dr Grande doesn't diagnose but only speculates on a case like this...but always manages to get it SO spot on. 👍👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
if paul did it ,it was at her request so i think she was guilty , either way.
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Not so spot on. Fatal Attraction came out in 1987.
"Like other people who had driven to New Jersey, Carolyn had come to regret it". I love Dr Grande's very earnest deadpan delivery of comments added to his analysis.
Fatal Attraction came out in 1987 before the murder. Grande doesn't get it right a lot.
@@drewknight7126 that’s why they called her the fatal attraction killer.
These people wear me out! Being a criminal is too much work!
Thank you Dr Grande for your tireless commentaries!
Me too! I'm exhausted just hearing about it!
I've said it before but I'll say it again- I just absolutely LOVE your guilty in "real life" and guilty "beyond a reasonable doubt" verdict opinion. I've never seen another UA-cam crime analyzer do this. It really shows how much thought you put into all of the evidence and events.
Great comment!
Yes exactly, it really models to the audience careful, informed thinking about criminal cases and the matter of law, rights, guilt and innocence... culturally, we don't adequately appreciate these standards and too often it's as though we go straight to judging people's guilt or innocence and the quality of verdicts based on gut feeling essentially and very incomplete information.
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😂 This couldn’t be based on “Fatal Attraction” though. That movie was released in 1987, and Betty Jean wasn’t murdered till ‘89.
You are very clever!
@@CodyCole80 yeah it’s the other way around. Carolyn was inspired by the movie.
Was a bunny ever boiled?
True!!
“Like other people who have driven to New Jersey, Carolyn would come to regret it.” 😂 From a neighbor living in PA!
He must not like New Jersey he’s always bad mouthing it :p
There is a reason why you don't pay toll when you cross the Delaware river into NJ.
Sure wish I knew his history with New Jersey.
Here's a compliment for you, doc. Your video title word play is sublime. Your sense of humor is refreshing and the comedic highlight of my day. Thanks for the chuckles, doctor.
One of the last ones sounded like amber was sunken by a depth charge xD
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It’s very puzzling to me how some people rely so heavily on their attractiveness to achieve their goals. I think it’s important to pay attention to one’s physical appearance, but I also think it’s extremely important to cultivate a good character. Carolyn’s experience of having her father leaving her mother to another woman was certainly traumatic, however that was an opportunity for her to set a different tone and avoid causing the same pain she suffered to other people. Instead, she repeated the destructive cycle. Obviously, she didn’t cause pain to her lovers but I am sure the emotional damage to their families was immeasurable.
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You know - I was thinking that it might be a heart fairy delivering the coveted 💕! If so she has very good taste !
Amber heard comes to mind
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Carolyn went to high school at the same school that I did, and graduated 2 years after me. I grew up in Birmingham and didn’t know her, but have been interested in this story for a long time. She sounds like a piece of work, and I believe she was responsible.
I am from Birmingham, also. I went to the other Birmingham school (Groves). She graduated two years before me.
Thanks for the like! My sister knew one of the guys that Carolyn stalked in Ann Arbor while at U of M. It's a very small world, my B'ham friend!
@@mls6684 so
Birmingham here as well, I’m a little late on this story, saw the documentary today on Oxygen
I think it's the other way around lol. The Fatal Attraction movie gave Carolyn the inspiration to kill her lovers wife. The movie came out first. That's why the media called her the 'fatal attraction killer' when she was arrested. I remember it well.
Good analogy
"Seems like a pretty important call, mostly because of the killing part." lol
Always erudite Dr. Grande! After an 9-1-1 operator confused he or she: “Either way, this seems like a pretty important call, mostly because of the killing part.” Bravo, to the point!
Don't they tape all those calls?
NJ has some beautiful and very, very affluent areas! The "Jersey Shore" gave NJ a bad wrap.
Thank you for your upload, Dr. Grande! Physical attraction fades. Intelligence and character generally do not.
Fatal Attraction was released in 1987. If this case occurred in 1989, it couldn’t have been an inspiration for Fatal Attraction.
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I've never been to New Jersy, but it sure seems like Dr. Grande really has something against that state. LMAO
it smells like a dump
You haven’t been to the good parts
New Jersey was the first state to ban school corporal punishment.
There’s a lot of crime in certain large cities
Heard about this year's ago. She thought she'd get
off because she was attractive - too attractive for
jail.She was a psycho, but he couldn't get rid of her.
She was found guilty.
Not really that attractive, but incredibly flirtatious.
Attractive?? Lol she's not attractive at all. She an average looking woman. To me she ugly. She would never cross mind to date.
“Like other people who have driven to New Jersey, Carolyn would come to regret it”. 😂😂 Dr. Grande you are too much. Love from NY.
Well, just noting this can’t be the literal inspiration for the movie Fatal Attraction.
The crime occurred in 1989, the movie came out in 1987. ✌️
I was thinking the same thing concerning the time line.
@@Pgschool37 🙂✌️
I too thought the time line was off and then checked and you are correct. Haven’t heard it in a while, but the term ‘Bunny Boiler’, coined from a scene in the movie, was popular in the early ‘90s and used to describe an unstable romantic female.
Maybe the movie inspired the perp!!!
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I admit, I did use New Jersey analogy once to explain that a certain part of my country was not fit for even going there, by comparing it to New Jersey. I said something like "it looked like New Jersey!"
My American friends laughed and one said "come on, it can't be that bad!"
It turns out Dr. Grande is on the same page!
I thought Dr. Grande was going to say "It was declared a mistrial when it was discovered Carolin slept with everyone on the jury as well."
Lol good one! The way she got around it may have been of the questions asked of potential jurors.
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She was openly and uncomfortably flirtatious. there was something in the way she looked at you. Disturbing.
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My socks do exactly the same thing!
Renee - You beat me to it! In heaven we supposedly get our missing socks back. - quite a pile!
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Fatal Attraction came out in 1987 before this happened.
Found contrary things online as well. Somehow Warmus's actions in 1989 inspired a movie made in 1987.
I love how you pick on NJ so accurately, Dr. G!! I recall one of the funniest lines against New Jersey came on that great TV sitcom 'Big Bang Theory' where Sheldon accused Leonard of even lying being originally from NJ to which Leonard immediately responds: "Why would anyone lie about being from NJ??!!" Sheldon then admits: "Good point!! I'll give you that one!!" I'd be curious to watch a segment on how you arrange and produce these great segments from idea conception to videotaping. Do you do this alone?? Are there research people or writers?? It could be a fun and informative voyage especially due to the popularity of your site!! Jim C.
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It's interesting that he had been bowling that evening, because he really looks like a bowler. He looks like a good bowler too. I bet he bowled well that night. It wouldn't surprise me at all, and I'm a gerbil.
Just a reminder I'm not diagnosing anybody in this video; only speculating when a person has a horrible-sounding name like 'Carolyn Warmus'.
Yeah it’s like Warn Us about Warmus with the warmpus already
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🤨 Seems like she grew up thinking “the world was her oyster” because she had a rich father and likely got everything she wanted. Never learned or understood “NO” or rejection.
Usually happens like this sadly 😥, narcissistic people Are like that
A lot of females nowadays think like this
@@SHOOTERSHOOTERSHOOTER999 absolutely
Love the humor. Sometimes I feel those stories are so horrible so the low key humor works best.
Lmao, the dry delivery of the driving new to New Jersey joke had me crying.
"like other people who have driven in New Jersey, Carolyn would come to regret it" when I moved out of my home state, then and only then did I get my driver's license. Jersey is a nightmare, but some of the lighthouses are pretty lol Thanks Dr. Grande for the video ❤️ keeping me entertained while I cry over my note cards 🤣😭
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NJ is not a nightmare.
It’s given me a pretty good life. You really don’t know the Garden State well, do you? 🏡👩🌾🪴
@@sross54 I grew up in Cherry Hill, NJ and lived there until I was 22. I love my home state. It will always be a part of me. I miss the food, the humor that we have, Barnegat lighthouse where we use to take my mom, there's so much culture and diversity, I love how much I can try and see. I love Jersey, but the drivers are a bit crazy, but now I live in Idaho and they're just as crazy... Every place has it's ups and downs. Also, I was making a joke. Go lions!!! (I went to cherry hill west, class of 2011) lol
There were so many laughs per square video footage on this upload! There’s always a guaranteed chuckle with Dr G’s stuff 😂 Sometimes I just gotta watch twice!
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Can you analyze the case of Dorothy Kilgallen Dr. Grande?
When they find out more information on the remains being found in Lake Mead...that would be an interesting video for you to analyze.
Very good Grande. I especially love the "regretting driving to NJ joke. As a life long resident, I thought it was hilarious.
“Like other people who drove to New Jersey, Carolyn came to regret it.”😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
thank you for doing this analysis. I've been intrigued by this case for some time.
How was she granted parole? I thought the 1st thing was to admit what you did and to promise you've somehow changed. If she never admitted any fault, then what did they base there reason on for releasing her? It certainly wasn't based on good behavior
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Carolyn had a very varied hairstyle history. Most of the styles did not really fit into the ideal physical attractiveness range. I do think Paul was involved and knew and approved of Betty Jean’s murder.
That's an interesting take
a very, very varied dating history too, lol!
It was the 80s, so their concept of an attractive hairstyle was different than ours.
I believe he did it too! How is it that he was last to see his wife and first to find her.
@@vivian5361 idk...make something up
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I love how...any time New Jersey is involved...Dr. G makes a point to take a jab at Jersey. He throws so much shade... I love it
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Sounds like all of these people had very few morals. Why does anyone think people like these 3 are going to end up anywhere else but in an early grave or in prison.
How the Hell did this woman only get charged with 2nd degree murder and is now free walking the streets?
That 22/25 Baretta is a jamming fool. I guess Carolyn got a good one. Too bad for her and Betty Jeanne, ay.
Few if any innocents are ever completely innocent. Usually, they've put themselves in harm's way with their foolishness.
It's kind of like shedding tears for that "wonderful" person who died in a skydiving accident. ...Know what I mean?
because ppl have a soft spot for women . like dr grande
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Every person who's found guilty of murder doesn't always get sentenced to life without parole.
@@January. but we know women get lighter sentences then men .
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Hello Dr. Grande, this was very interesting to listen to. I do agree with your analysis. And agree that some of the events are kind of strange. Thank you for sharing your work. Best Regards. ❤👍
"... either way, this seems like a pretty important call, mostly because of the killing part" 😂😂😂
Please cover the Circleville Letters case? Have a great week, Dr. Grande.
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"Like other people who have driven to New Jersey, Carolyn would come to regret it..."
"Fatal Attraction" was a 1987 film. Carolyn Warmus committed her crime in 1989.
Your wit always entertains me. Such a interesting case.
Dr Grande’s videos: come for the fascinating psychological analysis, stay for the slams against new jersey
Birmingham to Ann Arbor to Scarsdale is an impressive run of wealthy places to live. No need to joke about New Jersey on this one; she was a total upper-class Michigander. The well-off can go crazy and kill people too!
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Vinny Parco is/was a very colorful character. He even taught a couple Learning Annex classes back in the early 90s, if I recall correctly. He was known for being creative and has his hands in all kinds of cases.
Interesting how she didn’t respect marriage or any other relationship her lovers already had with other women.
Here in Houston in the last day or so, a woman killed her husband when he came home and told her he was in love with someone else, then called the police.
I think it’s very dangerous to do this to other women who might kill her or their husband, taking the “forsaking all others” part of their marriage vows or commitment very seriously.
Why would she respect a man’s marriage when that man doesn’t even respect his own marriage? I agree with your main idea, but it’s important to note that these men more than welcomed her “disrespect” alongside their own.
@@babiifrshj07 Indeed. It takes two to tango.
People who base their identity and value on being desired by others go bananas with rage when anyone stops wanting them. I feel sorry for them-- for the panic they feel when anyone else is preferred to them-- but their tendency to take out their rage in eliminating any possible 'rival' makes them dangerous.
Pail could have gotten Caroline to buy the gun. I don't see him as innocent in this and from what I remember his affair with Caroline continued after his wife was killed. Until he met somebody else and started a new relationship. This is not the behaviour of an innocent man grieving for his wife. And his infidelities put his wife's life at risk.
Her name was Carolyn not Caroline
@@carriefawcett9990 Big deal.
I don’t think he was involved in the orchestration of his wife’s murder, but I agree that he isn’t innocent by any means. Sure, he was still continuing his promiscuity and affair(s), but that was his pattern of behavior. He was gross 🤷🏻♀️
🍿🍿 thanks for covering this! Love hearing about metro Detroit, I’m all ears Dr Grande!
Interesting story Dr. Your of course correct on people that are having affairs, one if not many people will be affected by actions of two. Your always interesting and very insightful 👍, thank you.
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Dr. Grande can you cover the liko kenney / officer bruce mckay incident?
I remember her. For a while she was the girlfriend of a friend, but she stabbed him, injuring him badly. When this murder came on the news, my husband and I looked at each other and said in absolute unison, "She did it!" I also remember an interview with Amy Fisher, the young girl who shot Joey Buttafuoco's wife, about life in prison, where she was serving alongside Carol Warmus. Her comment: "She's weird."
I remember when this channel blew in around mid 2019 and now it’s practically fallen off the face of the earth
I so very much love the shirt Dr Grande is wearing today. It makes me want to draw and create! (“Mostly because of the killing part” Lol!)
"Like other people who had driven to New Jersey, Carolyn would come to regret it." LOL! On a drive to a department store in New Jersey one time, I got lost and kept going around the same traffic circles over and over again. New Jersey roads and traffic circles make it so hard to find where you are going! At one point, I parked my car, put my head on the steering wheel and began to sob. I gave up and went back home and never found the store. Hahahaha!
As soon as I heard New Jersey, I knew a Dr. Grande zinger was coming!
Great lines about NJ, as always.
"Eros and Thanatos": This case illustrates how many individuals are dominated by the twins, eros and thanatos, erotic attraction and the lure of death. Civilization is not able to overcome these forces which are always at work in human life. Life without eros is empty, life without death is meaningless. For most "well adjusted individuals," those with some kind of internal harmony that makes it possible for them to function within civilized norms, such as producing videos in order to comment on these forces, life is basically an empty and pointless task covered up with religious or scientific fictions so individuals can accept their exclusion from the two forces that are the most important in human experience, eros and thanatos. What Carolyn's horrible life demonstrates is that she was immersed in the tug of war between eros and thanatos. Prison will not help her overcome these twins. Face up to our situation. Accept these truths and have a nice day. Thanks for reading.
Thanks Freud
Okay, so this is a case of life imitating art? I ask as the MOVIE came out in 1987 with Michael Douglas and Glenn Close.
Thought more people would catch that. I remember seeing it in 1987.
Brilliant.
Dr. Grande, New Jersey is called the garden state. I think there must be a reason for that but after living there for a while I was unable to learn what the reason is. I decided it's just an innocent misnomer. Ms. Warmus's story was a great choice for a subject and I really enjoyed your coverage of it!
Another Great Video Doctor Grande! One Small Correction it is a Suppressor not a Silencer! Just thought I Would Help. Keep up the Great Work! And God Bless.
Dr. Grande , please do the case of Dr. William Husel . Ohio v Husel .
Excellent
The serious issues with such a dry humour. 😃 Love it.
"Especially the killing part"
😆 Very funny Dr Grande!
Best thumbnail ever.
I feel like all the characters in this case are kind of icky. Excellent analysis, Dr. Grande! ❤️
i would love to hear you talk about mckamey manor ? the horror attraction with torture
This whole situation is a cautionary tale against pulling back the curtain too far…all they’ve demonstrated is that they’re just as capable of being petty, excessive and personally humiliating as the next person-well, after giving it some thought, let’s say they’re actually way worse than the average person!
Additionally they’re making the point that rich and beautiful doesn’t make you special.
They’re just two human beings with deep emotional scars and damage. Nothing to aspire to…
As always, great analysis, Dr. Sounds like Carolyn was beyond obsessive.
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What a wild story.
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@@kristenneglia9757 Kristen, Thank you so much, that was a beautiful comment and I will take your advice.
@@chrisgomez860 I also have twin boys who are at University in their second year of doing medicine, and a daughter eighteen months younger than the twins.
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"seemed to be an important call, mostly because of the killing part" ..
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