Did Millionaire Use Confusion on 9/11 to Murder His Estranged Wife? | Michele & Cal Harris Analysis

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  • @LifesPeachy321
    @LifesPeachy321 10 місяців тому +110

    The weirdest stories to me are the ones where the husband is cheating on the wife, but won't stand for a divorce. I mean, you don't want to be with your wife, you treat her like crap and you're obviously unhappy, but you're not willing to let her go either. That's some really fckd up thinking!

    • @kimberlyward5963
      @kimberlyward5963 10 місяців тому +20

      I agree, I always think the same thing. In this case I believe he didn't want to pay child support for 4 kids. It's 'cheaper to keep her' as they say.

    • @htmc2022
      @htmc2022 10 місяців тому +1

      Because these men are CONTROL FREAKS!

    • @mortalclown3812
      @mortalclown3812 10 місяців тому +10

      Control freaks are called that for a reason.
      💔

    • @loveisthedrug3579
      @loveisthedrug3579 10 місяців тому +9

      It's bc their motive has nothing to do with love or companionship and everything to do with maintaining total control. Losing control of anything or anyone delivers an unforgivable blow to their fragile ego which sends them into a rage filled attempt to regain control at all costs. It's fricken weird....and sad really.....but most importantly dangerous

    • @pollypockets508
      @pollypockets508 10 місяців тому +9

      Money?

  • @MeganVictoriaKearns
    @MeganVictoriaKearns 10 місяців тому +51

    Calvin is guilty and this is why I think so: The morning tasks of getting the kids off to school was always Michelle's thing. Anytime in their relationship when Calvin had to deal with the chores and tasks associated with kids' morning routine, he whined and griped. Even when he just had to help out with it, not just on the handful of occasions he had to do it all himself. The morning Michelle "disappeared" the housekeeper testified that Cal Harris covered the entire list of things required of him to handle the 4 kids that morning. He did so without complaining in any way whatsoever. Now, this is suspicious alone given his well established disdain for this role. The clencher is that beyond his dramatically out of character calm, bitching-free handling of the kids that morning, Cal never once expressed the slightest bit of resentment or anger over Michelle not being there. Had he no knowledge that her absence was due to her being dead, Cal could only have concluded that Michelle was not there on time because of over sleeping or some other reason rooted in irresponsibility, or possibly he may have suspected she intentionally failed to show up just to force him to handle the kids that day. Like a spiteful thing. They were in a bitter, bitter divorce process. If Michelle was negligent or if she was messing with him, either reason, Cal would've been throwing a fit, blowing up her phone and talking major shit about her. But he just put his head down, held his tongue (generally an impossible feat for Cal) and did all the loathsome work without a single complaint.

    • @petelytle7977
      @petelytle7977 7 місяців тому +2

      Brilliant. Very well put. He did it. No doubt in my mind. He also had an incredibly hot temper and resentment issues. He'll do anything until the end of time to punish the people that charged him (and others that believe he's guilty) not out of being wronged but simply "messed" with. His lawsuits were without merit. He knew that he could screw with everyone because he could never be charged again. He's a really weird guy. I believe he's a narcissistic, hotheaded killer.

  • @paulperry7091
    @paulperry7091 10 місяців тому +425

    The reason women do not leave the home before divorce is usually because they have no access to funds. Add to this the natural reluctance to leave ones children behind. Friends who work in domestic violence cases tell me this happens every day. If you have no job, it's impossible to put aside "escape" cash without alerting a potentially murderous spouse.

    • @willnill7946
      @willnill7946 10 місяців тому +19

      We know why women don’t leave the home, and it’s not the reason you said

    • @enjoystraveling
      @enjoystraveling 10 місяців тому +8

      Maybe it’s sometimes possible for women in danger to go to a relative, or friend without telling the spouse who is the danger.

    • @nanettevantriesteharder2469
      @nanettevantriesteharder2469 10 місяців тому

      @@enjoystraveling Women's domestic violence shelters accept women and children in secret locations with security precautions.

    • @AnnaFragolari2
      @AnnaFragolari2 10 місяців тому +16

      I am so shocked that women in USA chose to stay at home without an independent income... After all it's not Afghanistan.

    • @AnnaFragolari2
      @AnnaFragolari2 10 місяців тому +35

      ... anyway it is wrong to point the finger on the blame of the victim! We should not. There might be any money issue but no murder can be justified.

  • @MilovicMilica
    @MilovicMilica 10 місяців тому +88

    Hi Doc, just wanted to say that I am a huge fan and I have been following your channel when it had few thousand followers. When I first watched videos on your channels, I was 16 years old and now I am 21. Due to certain events in my life, I have always acted much older and more seriously than my generation. When I was 15, I was told to act like I was 25, and I was also always extremely introverted. In those years I was afraid that I had some kind of psychopathic personality disorder, but watching your videos helped me to become wiser and learn many things about myself and others and not to worry that I had some kind of disorder. Thank you for your work. Thanks for everything, there really is no other channel like yours. :)

    • @seaglasscolor
      @seaglasscolor 10 місяців тому +1

      It sounds like you are gifted with intelligence. Stick with Dr. Grande; he is a wise mentor.

    • @rwm1980
      @rwm1980 10 місяців тому +1

      Pretty narly u got a like from the man!

  • @rullvox5912
    @rullvox5912 10 місяців тому +167

    Thanks Dr. Grande. Unsolved murders really bother me because my niece disappeared years ago and no one was ever arrested, her remains were never found. My family knows it was her ex-boyfriend, and my aunt told the police that she found her car with her purse in it at a local CVS store. But the lazy and incompetent small town police have never solved it.

    • @biancamitchell9433
      @biancamitchell9433 10 місяців тому

      Doesn’t the fbi get involved in missing person cases?

    • @shakeyrasmakeupofbeauty
      @shakeyrasmakeupofbeauty 10 місяців тому +37

      I’m so sorry my condolences

    • @GGiblet
      @GGiblet 10 місяців тому +58

      You might want to try getting her case discussed on channels that do cold cases. Condolences to your family 🙏🏼

    • @ember1794
      @ember1794 10 місяців тому +10

      Maybe a private detective could help 🤔? Or I just saw an interview with Psychic detective Pam Coronado (who even worked for the FBI at times) - she stated she specializes in missing persons cases, also cold cases - whether or not one believes in it, maybe someone like her (or as qualified!) could help

    • @icturner23
      @icturner23 10 місяців тому +21

      @@ember1794Don’t be stupid. ‘Psychics’ never help.

  • @alukuhito
    @alukuhito 10 місяців тому +62

    Next time you're out in the countryside, seeing those large mansions on huge lots, daydreaming about how nice it would be to escape your life and live like those people, remember that this kind of crap happens all the time in rich, isolated families. Life isn't anywhere as ideal as you may think.

    • @tiggerpup_nz
      @tiggerpup_nz 10 місяців тому +5

      Things like that happen anywhere and everywhere. It happens far less in a rich house though, compared to well, everyone else. So I’ll continue to dream

    • @isabellind1292
      @isabellind1292 10 місяців тому +6

      Like serial killer Herb Baumeister who buried his victims in the woods behind their sprawling, Indiana, 18-acre family's estate.

    • @alukuhito
      @alukuhito 10 місяців тому +5

      @@tiggerpup_nzGet real. "Far less." I don't think so. Often rich people are bored, plus they're used to getting what they want when they want it. When that doesn't happen, they get angry. Show me a rich family without some sort of violence or immorality.

    • @tiggerpup_nz
      @tiggerpup_nz 10 місяців тому

      @@alukuhito “get real” proceeds to offer just feelings and demonstrably incorrect “facts” that no rich family is non violent or immoral.
      I’m guessing by your black and white view of reality that you’re just a kid, so I’ll let that slide. One day, when you’ve grown up, you’ll realise that there is also a lot of grey areas in the world. Not everything is black and white

    • @alukuhito
      @alukuhito 10 місяців тому

      @@tiggerpup_nz It's like you didn't even read my posts. You're the one trying to paint things as black and white, not me. Begone, troll.

  • @JJ-ui4ph
    @JJ-ui4ph 10 місяців тому +127

    It’s really hard to prove a person that is a millionaire guilty. This is called a legal system but it’s definitely not a justice system and that’s my two cents.

    • @alukuhito
      @alukuhito 10 місяців тому +4

      You have 2 cents, while has hundreds of millions of cents.

    • @loumoon7660
      @loumoon7660 10 місяців тому +4

      Money sways

    • @markmike7933
      @markmike7933 10 місяців тому +2

      sounds like 2 cents is all you have lol

    • @Boutys_mom
      @Boutys_mom 10 місяців тому +2

      Heyyy, that's what I always say! lol!
      No = justice system!!
      Yes = legal system (though even that's been less & less fruitful for those who are innocent)!
      PS. Did he say she had a 2004 Ford Windstar?? A millionaire family?!
      Either way, sad - sad - sad story. One that's becoming more & more common. Greed.

    • @mariagabrielle6383
      @mariagabrielle6383 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@Boutys_mom2000 Ford Windstar.

  • @Spindrifts
    @Spindrifts 10 місяців тому +49

    A spouse like Michelle might stay because she’s gotten used to the abuse & starts to believe she deserves it. She couldn’t afford to move out with her 4 kids on just waitress tips. The affairs were maybe to build up her self-esteem after dealing w abuse & rejection. She was probably advised not to abandon the kids before the divorce finalized at which point she thought she would be free.

    • @kyleboulanger170
      @kyleboulanger170 10 місяців тому +2

      Some women stay with their abusive husbands because they're too emotionally weak to leave. Up until last year, Colorado Congresswoman Lauren Bimbert stayed with her husband Jayson despite him physically & sexually abusing their kids because she couldn't afford to support herself on just her Congressional salary.

    • @jessieyork4508
      @jessieyork4508 10 місяців тому +2

      Some Mothers are very hesitant to disrupt their children's lives.

    • @yehmen29
      @yehmen29 10 місяців тому

      She could have been taking drugs, for example antidepressants and benzos. She would also have feared rejection from her family and friends if she had left her husband. It's even worse with people who have 'good moral values'. All the 'therapists', 'counsellors', 'psychiatrists' and of course the priests in the area where I grew up focused on 'keeping the family together', 'forgive and forget' etc. We had psychiatrists, psychologists and the like coming to my Roman Catholic school to give us lectures against divorce.
      I've recently come across a dismal femicide case in France, Jonathan Daval and Alexia Daval. Looking at Facebook and such they were an extremely happy couple, they had met when they were 20 and 16 respectively, quickly became a couple, and eventually married when they were 31 and 27. They both had good, permanent white collar jobs, no money problems whatsoever, they went on nice holidays (they had honeymooned in the Pacific), drove nice cars, they also owned a big house (which had belonged to Alexia's grandmother) with a swimming pool, which they were renovating, the only issue they had was that Alexia struggled to conceive. Jonathan beat her up and strangled her to death one night, then took the body to a wood nearby and tried to set it on fire. The body was found 2 days later. The 'gendarmerie' waited for 3 months to charge him for murder, they wanted to have enough evidence. They did a sterling job of making the body talk, the GPS system of Jonathan's car also gave damning evidence, and the text messages Alexia had been sending her husband and other people were also incriminating. What struck me is that Alexia's family initially stodd by Jonathan, he had even moved in with his parents in law after the body was found. He managed to fool everybody, then, when he was charged with murder, he accused his brother in law of having murdered his wife in front of the whole family and of them having attempted to cover it up... In fact, he had probably premeditated the murder. He had also been drugging up his wife with Tramadol and Tetrazepam (Valium, which is banned in France) without her knowledge, maybe he was hoping she would dir from respiratory depression during her sleep? Appearances can be really misleading.

  • @barbaralovenvirth8726
    @barbaralovenvirth8726 10 місяців тому +25

    She leaves her car and then "hitches" a ride?? Well, sure.. that's logical.

  • @derkeheath5172
    @derkeheath5172 10 місяців тому +172

    He was a cheater AND a car dealer? Yeah...he murdered her.

  • @sarahpiaggio2693
    @sarahpiaggio2693 10 місяців тому +95

    They had 4 children together. Was either of them even thinking about bringing up their children? They seem to have been far too busy hating each other to focus on what all this would do to them. So sad that the children must have been brought up for part of the time by the murderer of their mother, and mainly under the shadow of all those trials. It's difficult to over-estimate the damage all this must have caused to them

    • @lindabrennan4455
      @lindabrennan4455 10 місяців тому +16

      It's inconceivable to me how people lose sight of what's really important, their children. Children don't ask to be born. Stupid, self centered parents.

    • @alukuhito
      @alukuhito 10 місяців тому +4

      Nope. It's more important to be having sex with other people. Kids are a burden and they should be lucky they got to grow up in such a nice home with money.

  • @lynngreen9637
    @lynngreen9637 10 місяців тому +16

    I have an opinion-really more of a theory. She knew he would become violent if she left him, maybe because she’d already tried to leave, or maybe because he was threatening her. She might have been looking for a man to help her escape, but that’s got to be hard sale with all those kids. I’m guessing the husband did it, because he didn’t seem concerned when the babysitter told him she found the wife’s car with no driver.
    We need better resources for people trying to leave dangerous relationships. The police won’t help until after a crime has been committed. One idea is to ask your friends and family members to help you move out and surprise the unregulated partner with your plans.

    • @blk5124
      @blk5124 10 місяців тому +2

      I did know a family, in our former church, who was approached to hide a woman and her kids from a violent partner. They did it. I don't know for how long but I guess he couldn't find her or the kids for whatever time period and he gave up. I think the woman was somewhat fortunate in the fact that she wasn't married to him and the kids weren't his.

  • @patricianoel7782
    @patricianoel7782 10 місяців тому +21

    If the mother leaves the home, it is legally consider abandonment. Never leave the home. I had to threaten to turn him into IRS as he hadn’t paid in 4 previous years, in known to me. DONT LEAVE, friends.😢Also, as soon as you think divorce is eminent, get a bank box and squirrel away cash.

    • @cappmom5
      @cappmom5 10 місяців тому +7

      This is what I was thinking too. She didn't have many options and he wasn't going to leave. He probably also threatened to take the kids and likely would have just for control. 😢

    • @evelynwaugh4053
      @evelynwaugh4053 10 місяців тому +4

      Bad advice to threaten spouses. Better to give them positive incentives for desirable behavior. Also, a spouse (you) is equally responsible for the taxes.

  • @benzos5704
    @benzos5704 10 місяців тому +39

    This story along with many others you share, is a constant reminder that people get away with murder. And that sucks. Justice never served, simply fleeting before the system breaks down.

    • @alukuhito
      @alukuhito 10 місяців тому +1

      Karma catches up to us all though. It might not be instant. Sometimes it takes years. Some think lifetimes. Anyway, what goes around, comes around.

    • @Bv101Bv
      @Bv101Bv 10 місяців тому +2

      Not only that but people get away with murder whilst others are found guilty and are innocent.

    • @haldenkepple4242
      @haldenkepple4242 10 місяців тому

      Other people go to prison for crimes that they didn't commit

    • @SY-ok2dq
      @SY-ok2dq 10 місяців тому

      ​@@alukuhito Nah that's just wishful thinking. Stalin died peacefully in his sleep, an old man. Think of the many millions who died because of him.

    • @alukuhito
      @alukuhito 10 місяців тому

      @@SY-ok2dqDid you even read my post?

  • @DavianSinner
    @DavianSinner 10 місяців тому +28

    I seem to recall another story like this but it took place in NYC on 9/11 and I think the woman was a nurse or emergency medical technical. The story went something like, the husband said she felt compelled to go to the site and help out, she did and was never seen again. However, there was suspicion the husband instead killed her in the chaos.

    • @bebop2523
      @bebop2523 10 місяців тому +7

      That’s Sneha Phillips, Dr Grande made a video about her too

    • @DavianSinner
      @DavianSinner 10 місяців тому +2

      @@bebop2523 Thanks!

    • @haldenkepple4242
      @haldenkepple4242 10 місяців тому +2

      I'm pretty sure he did a video on that caae awhile back

    • @stephensmith7293
      @stephensmith7293 9 місяців тому +2

      I have a theory that a few of the 9/11 victims, aren't really dead. They were unhappy with their lives, and used the event, to disappear. Difficult to pull off, for sure, but not impossible.

  • @synthiamcbride7194
    @synthiamcbride7194 10 місяців тому +9

    I think the reason she did not leave her home is her children. In the divorce trial that could have certainly led to accusations against her of child abandonment. And, therefore, reduced her chances of getting at least 50% custodial care of them. Nevermind that, under similar circumstances, that I would NEVER leave my children in the sole care of a man who had threatened me. If I did not have the means to take my children with me when I left, I would not leave.

    • @SY-ok2dq
      @SY-ok2dq 10 місяців тому

      Well he got sole custody in the end.

  • @arbonneladyTN
    @arbonneladyTN 10 місяців тому +30

    Love all your content!
    Thank you for your common sense approach to every story.
    And the subtle humor, the tie into the story is great…. “Ran out of gas” “turn the corner” “backseat” !
    Blessings to you & your’s!

  • @maureeningleston1501
    @maureeningleston1501 10 місяців тому +36

    Thank you Dr Grande for your consistent daily content. You have given us amazing "speculation" to ponder over. 👍👏👏

  • @GGiblet
    @GGiblet 10 місяців тому +21

    Doc your expressions are so amazing! Love it and the puns are always fabulous. It really helps to lighten this terrible story

  • @mikielynn779
    @mikielynn779 10 місяців тому +9

    This is a cold case in more ways than one. Sadly for the children. I pray that someday the truth comes to light and justice is served. God Bless 🙏

  • @carweee
    @carweee 10 місяців тому +66

    It seems like detectives and prosecutors some times come up with a theory, then gather evidence to defend their theory. It should be the other way around, with ALL evidence gathered prior to making a theory. It ultimately weakens their case because of the tunnel vision. Thanks for the analysis as always!

    • @arinerm1331
      @arinerm1331 10 місяців тому +3

      "It's easier to fool someone than it is to convince him he's been fooled." (Some say Mark Twain said it; I have no proof of a source.)
      It's incredibly easy to fool a police investigator, and incredibly hard to change his mind.

    • @eightw5783
      @eightw5783 10 місяців тому +3

      To go alongside that it always seems the legal system is much keener to find somebody guilty rather than spend any time eliminating them from the enquiry.

    • @alukuhito
      @alukuhito 10 місяців тому +3

      Ironic that you're making a theory as well without gathering all the evidence.

    • @arinerm1331
      @arinerm1331 10 місяців тому +2

      @@alukuhito A defendant's innocence is not a theory; it is the presumption. Evidence is required for a conviction. Lack of evidence leads only to acquittal.

    • @RightsForZombies
      @RightsForZombies 10 місяців тому

      Sometimes you need a theory to discover evidence. It’s not that black and white. Prosecutors DO collect all the evidence before trial, but new things can come to light during trials. Sometimes prosecutors go for a trial with weak evidence because they don’t believe more will be obtained and at least want a shot at prosecuting the defendant. It’s better to take a shot in the dark sometimes than leave a murderer on the streets when there’s no expectation of further evidence coming to light.

  • @htmc2022
    @htmc2022 10 місяців тому +3

    Convicted of Stalking, menacing, & harassment of the police officer who investigated the murder of his wife! Can they not set aside double jeopardy & Re-try him!

    • @walkingwolf8072
      @walkingwolf8072 10 місяців тому +1

      NO, and if I was guilty of a crime and got away with it I would be happy. This man was mad, and I would be mad as hell if I was innocent.

  • @PFBM86
    @PFBM86 10 місяців тому +3

    I grew up in the Binghamton area and this was a huge story locally while the case was ongoing, but I don't think I've ever seen it covered by a non-local source. Thanks for offering your analysis Dr. Grande! There were rumors going around at the time that he got rid of her body by putting it through a woodchipper.

  • @roxannespahr2804
    @roxannespahr2804 10 місяців тому +13

    It's scary that people can murder their spouse and live free. The best predictor of future behavior, is relevant past behavior. An abuser to one, is typically going to be an abuser to the next. He barely got away with killing his wife and hopefully he doesn't decide to murder another woman. Thank you for yet another great analysis, Dr. Grande. I hope you know how appreciated you really are. All of your hard work you put in to post a new video each day, doesn't go unnoticed.❤

    • @ns4725
      @ns4725 10 місяців тому +1

      He didn't murder anyone. He was acquitted 4 times. Maybe one of the hussies 2 boyfriends killed her.

  • @rose-marielacroix8975
    @rose-marielacroix8975 10 місяців тому +40

    What a weird reason to give to justify your cheating. The house isn’t clean enough

    • @naturalroyalflush
      @naturalroyalflush 10 місяців тому +2

      Yes...not something I would dream up in a hurry.

    • @DeshaunExitRealty
      @DeshaunExitRealty 5 днів тому

      If a man has OCD is a defiant deal breaker. Also the contrary is true if a woman is very tidy. They make for horrible lovers because they’re too concerned about “germs”

  • @suzanneharris8339
    @suzanneharris8339 10 місяців тому +21

    Both of these folks were apparently a bit off early in their marriage. Thrill seeking, outcomes be damned. I just hope the 4 kids had sympathetic& reliable family members to take care of them.

    • @walkingwolf8072
      @walkingwolf8072 10 місяців тому

      Never marry a woman who likes sex too much.

  • @JHjh88
    @JHjh88 10 місяців тому +22

    'Dispite his pursausive argument ' 😂.You always land Dr Grande!👍 From Australia 🐨

    • @ScrapCat26
      @ScrapCat26 10 місяців тому +4

      i just busted out laughing when i heard him say that - his voice and tone 😂😂😂 so subtle that it makes me laugh all the harder

    • @cjjohnson9413
      @cjjohnson9413 10 місяців тому +1

      JHj - I was wondering if you could send me some of those wonderful wild mushrooms....

    • @JHjh88
      @JHjh88 10 місяців тому

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    • @JHjh88
      @JHjh88 10 місяців тому

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  • @blakeharrison3972
    @blakeharrison3972 10 місяців тому +12

    The car puns were amazing

  • @Jennifermcintyre
    @Jennifermcintyre 10 місяців тому +14

    I’d like to know how much Cal paid the neighbor for lying his A$$ off to get Cal off.

  • @kel2700
    @kel2700 10 місяців тому +9

    Happy New Year to you & your wife & all loved ones Dr. Grande!

  • @shep68
    @shep68 10 місяців тому +49

    I never pass judgement on any of these true crime podcast or YT stories because we never have all the information or evidence as was presented at trial. There are facts here that seem to lead to his guilt and other facts that cast doubt. What I have learned over the years is that taking a bench trial is probably the way to go if you're ever in this situation. Juries can be manipulated and their emotions and "gut feelings" can be preyed upon maybe to your benefit but more likely to your detriment. Judges (for the most part) are by the book professionals who are guided by the rule of law and if the prosecution can't make the case then that's that.

    • @thelogicaldanger
      @thelogicaldanger 10 місяців тому +4

      Yup, the adage I've always heard.....ask for a jury trial if you are guilty, ask for a bench trial if you are innocent.

    • @DonieG-y9f
      @DonieG-y9f 10 місяців тому +4

      Either way, these two adults were shitty parents who were selfish and self-serving. How can people have affairs when you have four damn kids

    • @pulaski1
      @pulaski1 10 місяців тому +4

      ​​@@DonieG-y9fI think having an affair is easier if [1] your spouse has already had an affair, and you know it, and especially if they have admitted it, and/or [2] if you are _either_ (a) trapped in a marriage you _cannot_ end, or (b) you don't _want_ to end (presumably for financial reasons), _or_ [3] your marriage is already doomed anyway, and you don't care about fidelity.

    • @walkingwolf8072
      @walkingwolf8072 10 місяців тому

      @@pulaski1 I loved my father, but he was a serial cheater, he was the milk man. My mother NEVER cheated, avoided having anything to do with men that tried to flirt with her. She was always there for us, and even after we grew up she stayed with him until the day he died. I don't buy for minute that this lady in this case became a serial cheater over night.

    • @pulaski1
      @pulaski1 10 місяців тому +2

      @@walkingwolf8072 Respect to your mother, she sounds like a good mother, but I only said "easier", not that _everyone_ becomes a cheater when they discover their spouse is unfaithful. ... In this case it is known and documented that both spouses cheated.

  • @valleygirl2530
    @valleygirl2530 10 місяців тому +1

    Dr. Grande you’re definitely driven to bring us classic murder cases. In this one, I think Justice has finally stalled out.

  • @lisacolledge7624
    @lisacolledge7624 10 місяців тому +19

    My theory is Cal is responsible for her death and disposal, but he didn't do it himself. Follow the money, which wouldn't have been a withdrawal/transfer from his account obviously. The business, his parents, a sibling, or even periodic payments of cash. I don't know what the police were able to obtain search warrants for in relation to other people. For example, the steel worker dude with the black pick up truck. I must admit, I'm pleased to hear he has encountered many problems with police in the years since. Thanks Dr Grande. Great content, as always. ❤

    • @eadweard.
      @eadweard. 10 місяців тому +2

      Where did you learn about this payment - and how much was it for?

    • @Wheelman2004
      @Wheelman2004 10 місяців тому +1

      To add on to your probable theory, it could be the steel worker didn't do it BUT in a state of panic burned anything he had of hers in fear of being suspected. That is of course, if he knew she was dead and wasn't the killer.

    • @Sanakudou
      @Sanakudou 10 місяців тому

      @@eadweard. I don’t believe they’re saying that there is a known payment as of yet, but suggesting that an investigator should go looking through financial records to see if there’s potentially any hints someone else was paid off to help with the murder/body disposal.

    • @walkingwolf8072
      @walkingwolf8072 10 місяців тому

      @@Sanakudou Ohh I am sure they already did.

  • @blkcat93
    @blkcat93 10 місяців тому +73

    Meanwhile 4 children's lives are impacted in deep and far reaching ways. Unspeakable actions by both adults.

    • @Frank1e.b0i
      @Frank1e.b0i 10 місяців тому

      Both adults? are you stupid? in what way did she made unspeakable actions?

  • @WhatsReallyGoingOn84
    @WhatsReallyGoingOn84 10 місяців тому +2

    Oh *hell* yeah; time to speculate!!!

  • @isabelledetaillefer2726
    @isabelledetaillefer2726 10 місяців тому +9

    The only thing I care about is those poor, beautiful children. They have two immature and selfish parents. I Hope they are OK today.

  • @thesongbird2383
    @thesongbird2383 10 місяців тому +3

    Dr. Grande - Thanks for analyzing this difficult case... very well done! Happy New Year to you and your family! 👍💜🎉

  • @sophiaisabelle027
    @sophiaisabelle027 10 місяців тому +4

    We will always support you, Dr Grande. Keep up the good work.

  • @Swansong321
    @Swansong321 10 місяців тому +6

    Appreciated the vehicle word play

  • @sydneyfairbairn3773
    @sydneyfairbairn3773 10 місяців тому +4

    If there was blood spatter in the house, an area only accessible to Cal, then he harmed her and not any of her boyfriends.

    • @walkingwolf8072
      @walkingwolf8072 10 місяців тому +1

      Is there blood drops in your house? I bet there is, there is in mine. That is why companies make band aids, and people keep first aid kits in the house. Most people get cuts, I have cut myself in the home several times over 3 decades.

  • @lauriestump7134
    @lauriestump7134 10 місяців тому +2

    For those who wondered how she could remain in the same house with her husband, when married to a potentially dangerous person, it can actually be safer to stay where you can keep an eye on them.

  • @pocho689
    @pocho689 10 місяців тому +6

    The COST for the four trials must have been outrageous. AND the court time wasted preventing other cases from being heard is insane. What a crazy system.

  • @abbeyball6890
    @abbeyball6890 10 місяців тому

    I've lived in the same town as them for my entire life and I am so glad to see this covered. Thank you!

  • @jamaaldavis6243
    @jamaaldavis6243 10 місяців тому +13

    Happy New Year Dr. Grande!! I would love if you considered covering the case between Corporal Bruce McKay and Liko Kenney. There is dashcam footage from 2003 of Corporal McKay conducting a traffic stop on Liko Kenney, who was parked in an snowy isolated area. Kenney refused to present his ID to McKay or follow any orders and argued about his rights. It became a drawn out ordeal for over 20 minutes and ended with 3 officers having to take Kenney down. Kenney would encounter McKay again 4 years later in 2007 when he was stopped for speeding, where a chase ensued. Kenney murdered McKay by shooting him 4 times and driving over him after being stopped and pepper sprayed.

  • @MegaLivingIt
    @MegaLivingIt 10 місяців тому +6

    Thanks for you interesting and calm videos. Regarding this video, if they were millionaires why ever not hire a cleaning service for the alleged messy home?

    • @SY-ok2dq
      @SY-ok2dq 10 місяців тому

      Some of these people with money are real tightwads. You'd be amazed at some of the things they do and how much thry hate paying people.

    • @walkingwolf8072
      @walkingwolf8072 10 місяців тому

      Remember this is what she claimed to others. Cheaters often make up ridicules excuses for their cheating to family and friends. IIRC it was Judge Judy had a saying something like if it sounds like a lie, then it is probably a lie. Not the actual words but what I can remember. My theory is she was laying the ground work for getting rid of Cal, but got cold feet when her boyfriend showed up to do the deed. They then got into a argument, and he did her in instead of Cal. I highly doubt Cal killed his wife with four children at home.

  • @juliamarie7012
    @juliamarie7012 10 місяців тому +9

    Almost sounds like the husband and the steel worker were in cahoots…

  • @healerscreek
    @healerscreek 10 місяців тому +8

    If he was innocent and cared anything about his wife and children, then he would have hired his own investigator to find the killer and to clear his name. He's likely the real killer and could have paid the "witness" to frame the boyfriend. He'll slip up one day.

    • @kimberlyward5963
      @kimberlyward5963 10 місяців тому +3

      I thought that was odd that the 'witness' shows up many years after the fact with his little bit of knowledge. Why would you wait that long to go to the police?

    • @walkingwolf8072
      @walkingwolf8072 10 місяців тому

      @@kimberlyward5963 He was a farmer, do you think farmers spend their time watching/reading murder stories? He probably found out about it years later, and decided to do the right thing. Funny thing about farmers, they are the moral fabric of this country.

    • @willfanofmanyii3751
      @willfanofmanyii3751 9 місяців тому

      He did hire his own private investigator, the guy even wrote a book afterwards about all the evidence the court prevented the defense from using.

    • @willfanofmanyii3751
      @willfanofmanyii3751 9 місяців тому

      @@walkingwolf8072 Correct, he learned about it from the verdict being in the newspaper, as he recognized the outfit she was wearing in the photo.

  • @svenskanorsk
    @svenskanorsk 9 місяців тому +1

    Reminds me of that tragedy

  • @LaVidayElTristeFinal
    @LaVidayElTristeFinal 10 місяців тому +3

    How did she manage to drive a 2004 car on 9/11/2001? Was she a time traveler?

    • @kenmccormick8059
      @kenmccormick8059 10 місяців тому +1

      I noticed that; turns out he said
      2000 Ford Windstar,
      not 2004 Windstar.

  • @katmack4215
    @katmack4215 10 місяців тому +4

    Listen..he surely did it,his wife is gone,and will,probably,never be found!!
    That being said,if I were a Juror on this case.."Not Guilty" 🤨
    Not Guilty does NOT mean innocent!!
    It has to be BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT..😬

  • @lindabrennan4455
    @lindabrennan4455 10 місяців тому +8

    Dr. Grande, would you please review the case where the wife fell down the back staircase of their mansion and cracked her head open - evidently she did not die right away - while the husband sat by the pool. And this was the 2nd woman he was involved with that died from a fall down the stairs. A very unsettling situation as far as I'm concerned. The whole thing never sat right with me. She was a high earning executive and he was an author - if that helps you find the story. Thank you.

    • @ember1794
      @ember1794 10 місяців тому +6

      That sounds like the case of Michael Peterson ("The Staircase" on Netflix - though too pro-Peterson) - I think Dr. Grande even already did a video about him - The Behavior Panel did a really interesting video on him (here on UA-cam), they also didn't seem to believe him!

    • @lindabrennan4455
      @lindabrennan4455 10 місяців тому +2

      @@ember1794 Honestly, maybe it was because he was such an extremely strange man with that gigantic superiority complex - which frankly he and his children had - I couldn't see past all that nonsense plus the gay lover - who I found did NOT take any of this seriously - plus the whole book of his being lies to the horrifying description of the fall and her terrible death which was far from instantaneous to the pictures of the blood up and down the walls and them trying to explain that which was totally over the top to the grand finale'......an owl attacked her head. Oh, and I forgot about the lover in Germany that he threw down the steps and murdered. I guess this was foreshadowing.
      I'm telling you, there was so much going on that I honestly get dizzy just thinking about all of this. Oh, and I forgot to mention that either he or they ran through ALL THE MONEY THEY HAD and they were on the verge of bankruptcy and she was about to be laid off. Jeesh, she probably killed herself!!!
      If this has been analyzed by the good Dr. Maybe he can make some sense out of this for me because I'm lost.
      Thank you so much for responding to me.

    • @lizbensoncox
      @lizbensoncox 10 місяців тому +1

      Oh my gosh, yes, that case. That poor woman. Yes, very unsettling case. I watched the Netflix thing, and I still can't quite make up my mind.
      And those poor kids. I never could quite wrap my mind on how the 2 adopted ones (daughters of the first stairfall woman) ended up with him. Like... Didn't they have a dad already? I thought the 2 couples were friends while stationed/working in Germany. Like didn't they live in base housing? Ah, I could be remembering incorrectly. But it was definitely such a weird and unsettling case. I would love to have Dr. Grande's take on it!

    • @lindabrennan4455
      @lindabrennan4455 10 місяців тому +1

      @@lizbensoncox You recall more than I do on the 1st killing in Germany. The children ending up with him? I've no idea. My brain was so overloaded by all the other stuff going on I honestly don't think I was capable of taking that in. I do know that there were a ton of kids in that family. Now I know where 2 of them came from. It's a crazy story. An absolute bottomless pit of places to go with it.
      Just delve into the children s thoughts . That would be interesting.

  • @mahboopful
    @mahboopful 10 місяців тому

    I enjoy your rational ,,,evidence driven, analysis and your clever, unique sense of humor 👍

  • @MotherLodestone
    @MotherLodestone 10 місяців тому +3

    Why is Dr. Grande so awesome?

    • @debishaw9355
      @debishaw9355 10 місяців тому +2

      Because he’s smart, funny and very handsome. Oh did I mention he’s young enough to be our son?

    • @benzos5704
      @benzos5704 10 місяців тому +2

      Because introverts are great! They’re like a slowly unraveling present as they shed more personality. Lol

    • @smasome
      @smasome 10 місяців тому +1

      Also unique. Yes, young enough to be my son!😁

    • @sadiestoltzfus9798
      @sadiestoltzfus9798 10 місяців тому

      @@debishaw9355 Handsome 🤨

  • @megalopolis2015
    @megalopolis2015 10 місяців тому +16

    The children seemed like an afterthought to both the husband and wife. Cal seemed plenty dangerous to the kids all by himself, but other guys the wife dealt with were certainly not giving off vibes of safety, either. I think the steel worker killed someone, but I think Cal killed his wife. It doesn't seem like either murder will be solved, and it doesn't seem like the kids have anyone to advocate for them. I hope I'm wrong, and that they grew up in a stable environment after all.

    • @walkingwolf8072
      @walkingwolf8072 10 місяців тому

      And with urine poor case to boot. Hell they did not even have a body, she might still be alive today in the back seat of some young man's car.

  • @elizabethhamm5320
    @elizabethhamm5320 10 місяців тому +3

    Looking forward to another year of Dr. Grande videos. Haven’t found one that I didn’t love. Have you considered covering the case of Mary Bailey? There’s a lifetime movie on it but I would rather listen to your coverage

  • @Traderjoe
    @Traderjoe 10 місяців тому +3

    Why would Cal leave her car at the end of the driveway if he killed her? The farm hand said he saw her arguing with some guy in a black pickup on Sept 12th, but the police assert she was killed on Sept 11th?
    I suppose being a car dealership guy, Cal could have arranged for an employee of the dealership to tow her car somewhere and that employee arrived with a female intending to tow the car with the pickup, or the female was to drive the car, but the arrival of the farm worker somehow scared them off?

  • @Flamsterette
    @Flamsterette 10 місяців тому +13

    Thanks for the upload, Dr. Grande! Your true fans love your humour and sarcasm. January 2 is World Introvert Day, Run Up The Flagpole and See If Anyone Salutes Day, National Cream Puff Day (gotta have some Mini Chantilly Choux cream puffs later!), National Personal Trainer Day, National Buffet Day, and Happy Mew Year for Cats Day.

  • @victorimmature
    @victorimmature 10 місяців тому +8

    His Bald patch hit a wet spot ,Spinning him out of control .

  • @grindingdeviance1864
    @grindingdeviance1864 10 місяців тому +2

    It sounds as if there could be just as much evidence to investigate the steelworker as there was to investigate Calvin. Imagine if Cal and the steelworker met some time before the killing and, after some awkward tension, actually formed a friendship, or at least an alliance to get rid of Michele ? That might explain why Michele's blood was in Cal's house but the black pickup was also seen by the farmhand.

  • @willfanofmanyii3751
    @willfanofmanyii3751 9 місяців тому +1

    This whole case is just another example of the courts and law enforcement being so determined on proving a husband is a killer, that they allow the more suspicious person to leave the state unnoticed.

  • @Thats_Right80
    @Thats_Right80 10 місяців тому +2

    Guilty!!
    Must have PAID off the judge.

  • @rpk1519
    @rpk1519 10 місяців тому

    Reminds me of the case of Beverly Rowbotham up here in Manitoba Canada.

  • @ThimbleFox350
    @ThimbleFox350 10 місяців тому +9

    I've never been this early before

  • @franpan89
    @franpan89 10 місяців тому +8

    Car dealerships are scummy places

    • @sadiestoltzfus9798
      @sadiestoltzfus9798 10 місяців тому +3

      Where do you buy your cars.

    • @walkingwolf8072
      @walkingwolf8072 10 місяців тому

      @@sadiestoltzfus9798 Apparently from a scummy place...

  • @erinthesystem9608
    @erinthesystem9608 10 місяців тому

    It's strange. She probably saw the terrorist attacks on TV, never imagining that it would also be the day of her own death.

  • @yamnjam
    @yamnjam 10 місяців тому +7

    Duh Calvin killed his wife. It doesn't make sense that a lover would kill her in the garage and then take her vehicle up the driveway. Cal did it for sure.

    • @eadweard.
      @eadweard. 10 місяців тому +1

      That's your evidence?

    • @willfanofmanyii3751
      @willfanofmanyii3751 9 місяців тому +1

      Then explain why her lover left the state immediately after the disapperance, had blood stains in his truck, and burned clothes similar to what she wore that day?

  • @zenawarrior7442
    @zenawarrior7442 10 місяців тому +1

    Hmm my first comment disappeared again🤔Anyway someone threatens to kill me I'm out ASAP. Great points again. Thanks Dr G😊💛💛

    • @zenawarrior7442
      @zenawarrior7442 10 місяців тому

      @@ScoutJordan-i5z 😐Been happening lately for some reason...

    • @walkingwolf8072
      @walkingwolf8072 10 місяців тому

      And even without the threat a judge would have given her the children, the house, and child support separation. That is why many rich men stay single, even well off men, there is actually a movement called MGTOW because of fear of women.

  • @stephanieparker1250
    @stephanieparker1250 10 місяців тому +2

    Leaving the kids behind would mean a horrible custody battle and the fact she left would have been used against her in court.. along with no/low income and small living accommodations. The court would have likely given custody to her horrid husband.

    • @walkingwolf8072
      @walkingwolf8072 10 місяців тому

      So why couldn't she take the children with her, she would have got child support from a rich man. Most times that is a lot of money, we see all the time how women take sports stars to the cleaners with just one child. Face it, she was a slut, and if she is still alive probably still one. His money afforded her a promiscuous lifestyle. From what the farmer claimed, and the evidence at her boyfriend, if anybody killed her it was him.

  • @Meenadevidasi
    @Meenadevidasi 10 місяців тому +4

    Looks like people with lots of money get bored..

    • @blk5124
      @blk5124 10 місяців тому +1

      That is very true.

  • @scottdavidson526
    @scottdavidson526 10 місяців тому

    Waverly, NY? I was born in Waverly and grew up in E. Athens, PA. This is almost surreal to me.

  • @champfisk5613
    @champfisk5613 10 місяців тому +1

    This is a tricky one

  • @Singer4life0
    @Singer4life0 10 місяців тому +2

    Hello, Dr. Grande. Can you analyze a missing person's case of Bradley P. Olsen?

  • @pipermccool
    @pipermccool 10 місяців тому +2

    Let’s not automatically assume, with no autonomous evidence and no autopsy. Perhaps Cal will write an autobiography. he did it.

    • @eadweard.
      @eadweard. 10 місяців тому +1

      What's "autonomous evidence"?

  • @tamarhenrikssonshackter7850
    @tamarhenrikssonshackter7850 10 місяців тому

    Love your channel👍🏼

  • @m.f.richardson1602
    @m.f.richardson1602 10 місяців тому

    Always interesting
    Thank you ❤

  • @franpan89
    @franpan89 10 місяців тому +8

    Noooo not Calvin Harris!!!

  • @SallieB196
    @SallieB196 10 місяців тому +4

    Would love to hear your opinion on the Claus Von Bulow case whether he could’ve attempted murder of his ex wife Sunny

  • @123JanJan
    @123JanJan 10 місяців тому +1

    Four beautiful children and the parents were busy having affairs. Instead of going home to her children, she was drinking in the parking lot and going to a boyfriend’s house. They had it all and made such a mess of it. 😢

  • @ashleyparks1738
    @ashleyparks1738 10 місяців тому +6

    He got away w her murder. Their poor children

  • @lastpme
    @lastpme 10 місяців тому +4

    On 9/11 he told the babysitter his wife went to New York City? Really…without a car. Also who was going to pick up a hitchhiker heading to New York City on 9/11

    • @walkingwolf8072
      @walkingwolf8072 10 місяців тому +1

      A guy in a black truck, that is who.

  • @seaglasscolor
    @seaglasscolor 10 місяців тому +1

    Dr G, this case has bothered me for a long time, particularly because of the medium velocity blood spatter (60 drops) found near the door to the garage….on the rug there and on the walls. That’s quite a bit of blood to fly sideways onto a wall. Plus more blood on the garage floor. All of the blood evidence was Michelle’s. This convinces me that she was killed with a blow to the head as she was running out the door. And yet, as you explained so well here, this one piece of blood circumstantial evidence would not allow me to vote to convict, were I are juror.
    Women out there, be extremely careful/cautious when you are just about to leave a man who has displayed any violent traits. This is often the point where the woman is killed by the husband.

  • @alphaomega1351
    @alphaomega1351 10 місяців тому +3

    I asked him. He said he didn't do it. 😳

  • @andrewcarter7503
    @andrewcarter7503 10 місяців тому

    It's an often wondered thing - how many murders took place in Europe during the WWII bombing campaigns against the many cities attacked. A bombing raid would provide a perfect cover, many violent deaths, the authorities too busy to investigate.

  • @scottdavidson526
    @scottdavidson526 10 місяців тому

    Okay. This happened up in Spencer, NY, which is near Binghamton, NY.

  • @scottdavidson526
    @scottdavidson526 10 місяців тому +1

    The woman in this video that disappeared. My cousin knew her personally. She worked at a diner/restaurant in Waverly, NY, called Lefty's. She knows all about this case.

    • @walkingwolf8072
      @walkingwolf8072 10 місяців тому

      How did he know her "personally"? Or should I ask intimately?

  • @richardlippincott8881
    @richardlippincott8881 10 місяців тому +3

    Dr. Grande, I love the car metaphors, hahahha.

  • @ember1794
    @ember1794 10 місяців тому +8

    I've seen several cases where they were able to find out who did it even though there were several lovers - seems to me this case was solvable (and actually was solved) - also, I think, if he cheated first, she certainly was entitled to cheat on him (though she shouldn't have cheated on Brian/Bryan)

  • @miriamorwin7603
    @miriamorwin7603 10 місяців тому

    Great annalysi

  • @aylecatalina7
    @aylecatalina7 10 місяців тому

    Can you please do an analysis of the Andes mountains plane crash please?

  • @wendybond2848
    @wendybond2848 10 місяців тому +1

    In future I would be interested in your analysis of the Jolly Joseph case currently being tried in India. There is a current Netflix documentary about it.

  • @BobbiGail
    @BobbiGail 9 місяців тому +1

    The children. How do the adults have all this time to mess around while they have children? For the kids, these selfish excuses for parents is a travesty.

  • @ryanparker584
    @ryanparker584 10 місяців тому +11

    The burden is on the state and imo i think that if they can't prove it the first time it should be over with. Having to go to trial 4 times bc the state can't win is stupid.

    • @zenawarrior7442
      @zenawarrior7442 10 місяців тому

      Bad housekeeping a new excuse to cheat. If my husband threatens to kill me I move out asap. Agree with your points, great analysis again. Thanks Dr G😊💛💛

    • @eadweard.
      @eadweard. 10 місяців тому +3

      Hopeless misunderstanding. They didn't have retrials cos the state lost. The state won the first two. This was all explained in the video.

    • @ember1794
      @ember1794 10 місяців тому

      ​@@eadweard.This time, I agree with you

    • @Sanakudou
      @Sanakudou 10 місяців тому +2

      As another reply stated, the state WON the very first trial and he was successfully convicted, but a new wittiness came forward after the trial, triggering the subsequent court cases.

  • @micnorton9487
    @micnorton9487 10 місяців тому

    Like how the "official narrative" about 9-11 pops up even though the video is only coincidentally associated with the event...

  • @mritzs5142
    @mritzs5142 10 місяців тому +1

    Don’t recall the last name of the man, Fotus also a multi millionaire who’s wife has never been found, beautiful home, young children, which included twins. Same kind of situation except this man’s wife was way more adventurous Fotus..He committed suicide while waiting for trial, mistress was involved similar tragic especially the young children. In Harris’s situation maybe the steel worker was paid to do the murder by him

  • @jeanneeber
    @jeanneeber 10 місяців тому +1

    "I'm having lustful affairs……& its ALL your fault!"

  • @Jeff-bz6jp
    @Jeff-bz6jp 5 місяців тому

    That accelerated quickly.

  • @user-vs1tc3kj3z
    @user-vs1tc3kj3z 10 місяців тому +2

    I don't know how a waitress is expected to pay attorneys fees and raise four children. Maybe not impossible, but a huge adjustment and sacrifice amidst emotional turmoil already present. If he's the one with the money, then he'll probably get custody. If there's abuse, usually the safest option is to stay, as most women that are killed by their partner were either leaving him or threatening to. Her behavior in response to learning of is his affair didn't serve her, but to think those kids lost their mother when the country was grappling with being attacked? I hope they've made it to adulthood and allow themselves to pursue a good life.

    • @walkingwolf8072
      @walkingwolf8072 10 місяців тому

      Ask how women take celebrities to the cleaners?

  • @dougankrum3328
    @dougankrum3328 10 місяців тому +2

    My comment isn't directly 'directed' at this missing person, but why would some guy out on a date (steelworker or not)...tell his date about killing people or disposing of dead ones...? That seems like a good way to prevent a 2nd date.

    • @blk5124
      @blk5124 10 місяців тому

      Yeah. It would definitely put the breaks on for me. 😮

  • @Caperhere
    @Caperhere 10 місяців тому +1

    Could you please address the addiction to publicity of Dr. Drew Pinsky? Thank you.

  • @vickinoeske1154
    @vickinoeske1154 10 місяців тому +15

    Oh, for Pete's sake, of course Cal killed his wife!

    • @eadweard.
      @eadweard. 10 місяців тому +2

      How could you possibly know that?