I see the political and cultural influences on the hate of Jews and Israel and understand some of that part of this discussion, but it seems to me that the discussion is incomplete if the issues from the Bible aren't included because that is where we find the cause and continuity of antisemitism. It seems impossible to understand without that perspective
Russia was the first country to officially recognized Israel. It recognize Israel, 3 days after Ben Gurion declared independence. Stalin was no way anti-Semitic, anti-zionist or anti-israel. It's however true that after the 1967 war, it became anti-israel etc. This is largely because Israel gave captured Soviet weapons to the US. Thus making US pro Israel and Russia anti Israel. The panelist don't know history
Only in the sense that in Scripture we learn that Jews and Christians have a common enemy who would love to have us fighting one another. The Bible does not authorize hostility toward Jews: Genesis 12:3 John 4:20-24 and the definitive treatise on the proper Christian attitude toward Jews: Romans 9-11.
This ganging up on and blaming of the other (ideally a small, defenceless group) happens in times of disruption, dissolution, disintegration as is happening in the West. The Muslim world is also under enormous strain - the demographic growth has meant they have outgrown their ecological niche so their elites want to maintain their positions at home while the young males are forced out (jihra/hijra) to take the land of others and of course their women (see France, UK, Rohingya, Uighurs). Islam has always spread this way.
The best way to reach the younger generations is through computer games .Many just side with the people throwing the rocks . The ignorance is astounding so truthful computer games would be very educational.
I have a premonition that will not leave me; as it goes with Israel so will it go with all of us. Should Israel perish the holocaust will be upon us. -- Eric Hoffer
What a dumb panel. Never discussed the settler movement in the west bank. Netanyahu proudly sabotaging the Oslo Accords. I doubt think this are experts.
@@robertfeinstein2175 US officially recognized Israel in January 1949 while Russia recognized Israel in May 1948. Why accuse Russia for anti-Semitism when it immediately recognized Israel while it the US 10 month to recognize Israel. This panel is a laugh.
If Isreal falls, then Humanily will also fall. Why? Understanding of human thought began in Isreal by Israelites. Which is why, Isreal no one belong there more than you. Please don't a Jew as a sacrificial lamb.
I have a premonition that will not leave me; as it goes with Israel so will it go with all of us. Should Israel perish the holocaust will be upon us. -- Eric Hoffer
Sorry, but you have forgotten a big factor in this. The ANCIENT ISRAELITES were supposed to be HOLY PEOPLE unto Elohim (GOD). Not secular and not Zionist. Holy people!
I’d like to hear more about the US motivation to alay itself with Iran. It seems to make no sense for either the US, Arab allies, or Israel. What would be the purpose of such a foreign policy? No explanation I have ever heard makes sense on any level, moral or Geopolitical.
It comes from the "fabulism" of the American left, the Democrat party. They ignore pragmatic realities, believing their own narratives as the truth. The American overture to Iran was initiated by Obama's Iran Deal, which his administration treated as a treaty, without following the US Constitution requiring treaties to be voted on for approval by the US Senate. Obama wanted Middle East peace without having to do any real work. Pres. Trump reversed/repudiated Obama's Iran Deal, but then Obama administration 2.0 (Biden's presidency) jumped back into the fantasy, buddying up with Iran. It has nothing to do with logic or reality, and everything to do with bringing down American influence, and America itself, truth be told.
This is the original, and worst example, of cultural appropriation. Both christianity and islam claim to replace Judaism. If Jews are not debased, but instead live free, in a small portion of their homeland, it hurts their argument of superseding Judaism.
At minute 13 the lady talks about Palestinians children being taught anti semitism. The lady forgets the IDF has put into prisons a thousand children. The talk is so one sided.
@@everythingandmore5537 Those children are detained in 'juvie hall' for good reason. BTW, 13-year-old arab/palestinians are putting down rocks and picking up automatics. which could very well land them in prison.
@@masea2 The IDF regularly detains Palestinian children for stone throwing and their length of the children detention depends on how their parents plead to release them. The tone of the parents voice must be like begging and talks highly of the Jewish project in Palestine. In plain words the Palestinian parents must hummilate themselves in front of the IDF officers to get their children released.
This is ironic. None of the speakers here are "insiders". You're speculating as outsiders about what *other* people feel, and why..😂 Maybe you should actually speak to the people who espouse "antisemitic" views and ask *them* 🤦♂️
Hate started in the Old Testament where they used the loving god of all to ask them to not associate with any neighbors and now crying foul when they get what they sowed through their holy books
most informative of the panel was Toameh. All smoke about which caused which zionism or ant-semitism. However none of them addressed why there is antisemitism. also,, suggest the two woman gusts slow down their speech. nate
What other people ha e a right to an ethno state? This is what Israel claims to be, while crying that Germany tried the same thing. Israel has become what is says it hates. Israel claims to be the god chosen. Herr en volk
Besides, Israel isn't rounding up and exterminating peaceful Palestinians. Israel doesn't even disenfranchise them. Regrettably some of them get caught up in battles the Palestinians start.
An ethnostate, in the sense that the Third Reich implemented it and you desire it, does not allow the "other" the right to dwell and vote and work and hold public office in it like Israel does. You're comparing turds and apples.
@@barneygimble8984 Your first sentence is not coherent English. But if I'm right about what it means, exactly what you are accusing Jews of doing is exactly what you are doing. The Jews are only ascribing any attitude whatsoever to God if the Bible is not God's word. And however you spin it the Israelis are behaving better than the Reich did.
Praying for peace and mutual respsct to somehow begin in israel between the jews and their cousins. What they do there creates massive issues for their friends like the Americans . We pay for it here. 🇺🇸 You are not a settler if you re taking your neigbors apartmenst building and businesses
I see the political and cultural influences on the hate of Jews and Israel and understand some of that part of this discussion, but it seems to me that the discussion is incomplete if the issues from the Bible aren't included because that is where we find the cause and continuity of antisemitism. It seems impossible to understand without that perspective
Russia was the first country to officially recognized Israel. It recognize Israel, 3 days after Ben Gurion declared independence. Stalin was no way anti-Semitic, anti-zionist or anti-israel. It's however true that after the 1967 war, it became anti-israel etc. This is largely because Israel gave captured Soviet weapons to the US. Thus making US pro Israel and Russia anti Israel. The panelist don't know history
Only in the sense that in Scripture we learn that Jews and Christians have a common enemy who would love to have us fighting one another. The Bible does not authorize hostility toward Jews:
Genesis 12:3
John 4:20-24
and the definitive treatise on the proper Christian attitude toward Jews: Romans 9-11.
The Bible covers many issues. To which Biblical issues are you referring?
This ganging up on and blaming of the other (ideally a small, defenceless group) happens in times of disruption, dissolution, disintegration as is happening in the West. The Muslim world is also under enormous strain - the demographic growth has meant they have outgrown their ecological niche so their elites want to maintain their positions at home while the young males are forced out (jihra/hijra) to take the land of others and of course their women (see France, UK, Rohingya, Uighurs). Islam has always spread this way.
The best way to reach the younger generations is through computer games .Many just side with the people throwing the rocks . The ignorance is astounding so truthful computer games would be very educational.
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I have a premonition that will not leave me; as it goes with Israel so will it go with all of us. Should Israel perish the holocaust will be upon us. -- Eric Hoffer
What a dumb panel. Never discussed the settler movement in the west bank. Netanyahu proudly sabotaging the Oslo Accords. I doubt think this are experts.
Eric Hoffer was a great friend to Israel.
@@robertfeinstein2175 US officially recognized Israel in January 1949 while Russia recognized Israel in May 1948. Why accuse Russia for anti-Semitism when it immediately recognized Israel while it the US 10 month to recognize Israel. This panel is a laugh.
It’s very simple. Russia thought that Israel would be their agent in the Middle East. After Israel allied with the US all that changed.
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Speaking of laughs... (you).
So interesting thank you for this discussion.
.......and all families of the earth will be blessed in you'
If Isreal falls, then Humanily will also fall.
Why?
Understanding of human thought began in Isreal by Israelites.
Which is why, Isreal no one belong there more than you.
Please don't a Jew as a sacrificial lamb.
I have a premonition that will not leave me; as it goes with Israel so will it go with all of us. Should Israel perish the holocaust will be upon us. -- Eric Hoffer
😂
Sorry, but you have forgotten a big factor in this. The ANCIENT ISRAELITES were supposed to be HOLY PEOPLE unto Elohim
(GOD). Not secular and not Zionist.
Holy people!
I’d like to hear more about the US motivation to alay itself with Iran. It seems to make no sense for either the US, Arab allies, or Israel. What would be the purpose of such a foreign policy? No explanation I have ever heard makes sense on any level, moral or Geopolitical.
It comes from the "fabulism" of the American left, the Democrat party. They ignore pragmatic realities, believing their own narratives as the truth.
The American overture to Iran was initiated by Obama's Iran Deal, which his administration treated as a treaty, without following the US Constitution requiring treaties to be voted on for approval by the US Senate. Obama wanted Middle East peace without having to do any real work.
Pres. Trump reversed/repudiated Obama's Iran Deal, but then Obama administration 2.0 (Biden's presidency) jumped back into the fantasy, buddying up with Iran.
It has nothing to do with logic or reality, and everything to do with bringing down American influence, and America itself, truth be told.
This is the original, and worst example, of cultural appropriation. Both christianity and islam claim to replace Judaism. If Jews are not debased, but instead live free, in a small portion of their homeland, it hurts their argument of superseding Judaism.
At minute 13 the lady talks about Palestinians children being taught anti semitism. The lady forgets the IDF has put into prisons a thousand children. The talk is so one sided.
@@everythingandmore5537 Those children are detained in 'juvie hall' for good reason. BTW, 13-year-old arab/palestinians are putting down rocks and picking up automatics. which could very well land them in prison.
@@everythingandmore5537 hey troll. Get your facts straight and stop lying.
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The Arabs now calling themselves "Palestinians" teach their children to hate.
@@masea2 The IDF regularly detains Palestinian children for stone throwing and their length of the children detention depends on how their parents plead to release them. The tone of the parents voice must be like begging and talks highly of the Jewish project in Palestine. In plain words the Palestinian parents must hummilate themselves in front of the IDF officers to get their children released.
Spread to the young has been through the humanities sectors which have the yime for all this jargon. Teachers come from the ranks and spread this.
Israel has a right to BE, after everything else. It was their land in the beginning.
No it wasn't 😂. Even if you believe the Biblical fairy tale, Israel didn't exist as a nation until well after 2000 bc
@@tbishop4961 Nobody still around has a PRIOR claim. The Caananites aren't around any more and the "Palestinians" (Edomites) lived elsewhere.
This is ironic. None of the speakers here are "insiders". You're speculating as outsiders about what *other* people feel, and why..😂
Maybe you should actually speak to the people who espouse "antisemitic" views and ask *them* 🤦♂️
Arguements over rights to our land are pointless. You are walking into their territory - oil-funded hunanities lectures.
Hate started in the Old Testament where they used the loving god of all to ask them to not associate with any neighbors and now crying foul when they get what they sowed through their holy books
most informative of the panel was Toameh. All smoke about which caused which zionism or ant-semitism. However none of them addressed why there is antisemitism. also,, suggest the two woman gusts slow down their speech. nate
The discussion was
one-sided.
What other people ha e a right to an ethno state?
This is what Israel claims to be, while crying that Germany tried the same thing.
Israel has become what is says it hates.
Israel claims to be the god chosen. Herr en volk
Not all claims are equivalent. There is such a thing as truth.
Besides, Israel isn't rounding up and exterminating peaceful Palestinians. Israel doesn't even disenfranchise them. Regrettably some of them get caught up in battles the Palestinians start.
An ethnostate, in the sense that the Third Reich implemented it and you desire it, does not allow the "other" the right to dwell and vote and work and hold public office in it like Israel does. You're comparing turds and apples.
Not all claims are equivalent
But God chosen is here en volk in German
Except, Germans had the decency to NOT ASCRIBE THEIR OWN Racism TO GOD
@@barneygimble8984 Your first sentence is not coherent English. But if I'm right about what it means, exactly what you are accusing Jews of doing is exactly what you are doing.
The Jews are only ascribing any attitude whatsoever to God if the Bible is not God's word. And however you spin it the Israelis are behaving better than the Reich did.
Hated now probably for the same reasons why they were kicked out of over 125 countries
Right. Envy. A chance to steal somebody else's stuff and get away with it.
Praying for peace and mutual respsct to somehow begin in israel between the jews and their cousins. What they do there creates massive issues for their friends like the Americans . We pay for it here. 🇺🇸
You are not a settler if you re taking your neigbors apartmenst building and businesses
Nobody's personal real estate is being stolen.
Of course, what the Palestinian Authority, Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran do has no repercussions for other nations?
why call it israelophobia when it is good old antisemitism?