I Tried Card Counting Online And It Was A Disaster!
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- Опубліковано 5 бер 2023
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Can you count cards online? Does card counting even work online? And if you can count cards online for blackjack... is it worth doing? If it is possible, when playing blackjack will they back you off for card counting online? Let's find out. By the way, could you please follow me on twitter & instagram @stevenbridges?
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What would you have done differently? Did I miss anything?
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6:57 i would have blurred that bit too, unless thats all wrong.
@@rustypeanuts the cvv was 123 so i'm assuming it's fake
shave the beard
;)
I would have kept the money they gave you. I really want to see you in European casinos too
Out of curiosity can you card count in the uk?
Ask the CEO to send a photo of their passport in order for you to send their money back. Then tell them it's too blurry.
That would totally work. Good idea
That’s good 😂
Good idea
😅
BHaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Them asking for info when you're requesting withdraw is illegal according to the UKGC btw. My friend (UK) had this happen to him as well. He didn't wanna upload a picture of his passport due to insecurity of being a fatty at the time, so he literally reported them to the UKGC and eventually got his money without having to send a single document.
Damn I wish I'd known I would have refused.
I've actually submitted a SAR so I'll be interested to see what I get back.
Doesn't matter, they will do it anyway. They don't get fined enough.
I work in CS for a UK based gambling company, and I can confirm that what you said comes with a caveat.
We need to, for fraud reasons, ask security questions when a client wants to talk about withdrawals (or anything payment related) on chat. If they fail said questions, then we are obligated to ask for proof of identity and proof of address. If they know the answers to their questions then there's no issues.
I was playing online Poker and making good money about 13 years ago. Due to personal life I had to take a break. When I came back, all my money was gone from Titan Poker (fortunately not the biggest amount of my bankroll, but it was still 1,5k). Supposedly someone from a completely different country IP played with my account and gambled it all away. Yet no other Poker site had that happen (Full Tilt, Pokerstars, Party Poker). My account and the account the money was transfered to got closed and they just kept the money. When I contacted the support and also had evidence it couldn't have been me, they just told me "tough luck bro".
That's when I completely stopped doing it. Admittedly never had issues with Stars or PartyPoker, but the risk was too high and the big Poker hype ended anyway.
Seriously? jesus christ haha being a fatty can be a W?
Pls don’t stop uploading card counting content
I love making it! I'll keep doing it provided I think each series provides something interesting and new. If it becomes just a series of 'Hi Steven you can't play here and by the way give me your I.D' I'll stop.
@@stevenbridges love the vids man
@@stevenbridges Have you tried shaving your beard tho?
@@stevenbridges does this game only which give money or you think you can win at crazy time too
I mean, he counts cards for a living, so I'm sure he won't stop making content any time soon.
The irony of a card counter notifying a casino that they accidentally sent him money twice is not lost on me
I know i would take it gladly lol, not ur fault for their mistake
you will get sued into oblivion@@jabbaryu5399
@@jabbaryu5399 true its not your fault, but you are liable for it if they want it back later in life.
It likely wasn't an accident. Think about it from the perspective of a gambling addict. They just got "free" money, and I would bet my bottom dollar that the slimy sites do this to play on that addict mentality that whenever you get any kind of extra money or windfall, it excited your brain to gamble. Online gambling is so predatory at every turn it's insane, and all I do is watch others gamble.
@@frostyreindeer5557They have paid him what he won, no reason to give more. Ridiculous speculation.
When you are asked for the second withdrawal to be sent back to them, make sure you give them some checks and reject those a few times too :)
Genius
Pick up on your vids a few days ago and am utterly fascinated with them. The way you take the time to explain to things is incredible. Your trip through the US was so cool. Thx for sharing.
This series is great! Would love more card counting stuff. If that's looking less likely because of being backed off, have you thought about other similar things that fall in the same bucket? Would love to see you try court siding!
Yeah I have some other ideas that are roughly in the same ballpark that could be fun
I never realized I needed blackjack content in my life. But I do. Keep ‘em comin Steven
Thank you Cole! I appreciate you leaving a comment.
@@stevenbridges We appreciate you making this amazing content for us!
@@SPACECOWBOY_Hej anytime you use a computer itsusualy not beaten except w poker where there are live people the sports sites and others are just random or controlled the toullette in casino are random if its a live spin o ntables or electronic w the big wheel
Former dealer here. I was working for the same company but in Canada back in 2017 when they started. Unlike a real casino, they can't see you, you could even in theory write down and make notes with computers and such, so the rule was created to be a shoe of 8 decks of cards cut in half after shuffle, but it's more of a visually cut in half like seen in the video, hence the counting card on Online casino is useless... Also, from what I can see that is the quality of dealers they hired is horrendous.. They all seemed to be hating their job!! You should've seen how I hosted my games.
Do you think it would be possible to make money of online blackjack? Not necessarily card counting
What strategy would you suggest to make money of online blackjack?
Yes here is the best strategy: don’t gamble online.
@@Knight5533 You can extend that to "Don't gamble in general"
STEVEN BRIDGES I MISSED YOU
Your videos are so entertaining and really shine a light on how awful casinos are to their players. Glad to see an upload from you again:)
Thanks Gabs!
Hey Steven. 'Breathe of fresh air. No idea why I'm watching videos on something I know nothing about, but in the increasingly desperate environment of 'shopkeepers' that UA-cam has become, it's a rare treat to watch a video by somebody who comes across as genuine and down to earth, but also with no additional agenda other than an interest in sharing his experiences. And I genuinely laughed at the part where you zoomed out and did the "very sad" bit with the echo/reverb! 😂
Hahah thanks mate - glad you liked that edit!
And thank you! Just to clarify, I do have a spon every video, and I’m not against selling merch or monetising my channel. I monetise my channel thoroughly so that when I eventually fall off I’m not screwed financially 🙂 But yeah I make these videos primarily because I love to.
Hi
I have no idea how to play blackjack, I don't ever intend to as I have an addictive personality but this is my "guilty pleasure" channel. Something is so....weirdly wholesome about it.
haha I do the same thing with cruise reviewers channels. I hate the idea of cruises, but it's cool to watch someone else enjoy them.
You've made the right choice because only a special kind of person can successfully count cards.
You have to be detached from the money, and you can't play for the thrill of it.
Its for the person who sees it as a job and will treat it as such
Hi Steven. Hope you're having a wonderful day. Words can't describe the excitement I felt when I saw that you uploaded. Love the content.
That's so nice of you, thank you!
Great stuff man - you have content no one else does, and every video is so well put together! Thanks!!
Having been a matched bettor for years, they are actually disgusting the loops you have to jump through to get withdrawals to go through! Great content my man
Do you still actively match bet? I use to a couple years back and was very profitable, however the reloads started getting worse and worse.
I hear The US legalising sports bets in many areas has made it profitable again?
Ive just recently stopped, its not worth the time really now, i went fulltime for 2 years and made about 120k as i did it for about 19 people, but its not worth it no more unfortunately, worse offers/sign ups, bannings/holding withdrawals etc
you call it disgusting but you dont keep in mind that without others might hack your account pretending to be you and cash your money out… 😅
Nobody on earth , has watched more online gambling (Blackjack) than me , guaranteed , with that being said , if you like your money ..never , ever , gamble online. Great content by the way !
Rule changes when gambling physically?
Yes. Online you can’t resplit pairs or double down after split. Plus they might have a hidden Blackjack, whereas is an IRL casino, they will flip it over immediately.
Online card counting may have been a flop, but you've been crushing your online fitness! Keep it up 💪
Haha thank you CoPilot! :D
been waiting for a new video absolutely fell in love with the last series
Thanks very much Damien! I am unbelievably slow at putting together videos
I missed your videos! So binge worthy! You definitely need to post more often! ;)
I will try!
The reason I think they intentionally say it’s too blurry is to prolong the process and get you to play. They will sometimes wait 12 hours or more to let you repeat process and before you know it, it’s been a week and you have 100 perfectly
Framed photos of
Your ID
Your content is on fire! You've already overcome BJA's content. I say that cause you have no problem in investing a good time to experience and, therefore, being able to talk about the theme with a huge knowledge. Long-date fan but now a subscriber as well! Keep the good work.
Thanks so much! We spend a heck of a long time on the edit because we really want to make sure the video is good. 😃
Yes Steven, been waiting for this one for a while👍❤️
Man ai just watched the whole series today. I skipped work. Absolutely enthralling. I hope we get season 4, 5, 6 ❤️
The slow/impossible cashout is as much part of preventing counting as the bad game rules. Obviously these casinos are shady, but it'd also be almost impossibly to run one honestly. The strategy here would be to automate instead of sitting around for hours, evaluating each table and alerting you when the count is high. There isn't much they can do, these are just plain video streams in the background, likely even unauthenticated. You just need to visit every table once to get their URL. I've played around with this a bit, recording automatically generated football games that people can bet on online. The lack of asymmetry compared to a real casino meant that I had a few hundred thousand games to analyze in a couple of days. They can't bank on a counters being a small part of their business as a single counter could be every account on every table.
I've made bots that could scrape every bit of info needed for this, and then respond. It was my first "real" python project. My entire thought process throughout the video was how I would go about modifying it for blackjack.
I did it then with permission from the game developer as a proof of concept, but if there's money to be had people will come. Even if it is absolutely illegal to do so here.
Online casinos really aren't that shady. I've made some decent money using casino offers arbitrage, which requires you to play a lot of hands of blackjack (without card counting) as well as lots of fruit machine games. I've probably got accounts at about 50 different online casinos. Most of them will ask you to confirm your identity and payment details when you join, and that is usually sufficient to prove address and income (required by the UK govt before they should open an account for you).
On the odd occasion I've been unable to cash out, it's because the identity stuff hadn't been completed on account creation - but you can always check whether you have been validated at any time, and upload the proof of ID, etc, at any time before cashing out.
I've never felt truly inconvenienced, nor that any online casino was being 'shady'. On the handful of times I had a problem, it was due to their procedures failing, or getting a bad customer service rep on the online chat.
@@AGryphonTamer any updates?
This is exactly what I was thinking too. If you could make a program that monitors ~100 or so black jack games andm check all of the table’s running counts, and make the program bet as a card counter woul, you could possibly make a lot of money
With enough effort put in, it might be very hard to detect even for a human. I wonder if there aren't any captcha now and then. Even those can be bought though
Steven, as someone who has been playing BJ online for 4 years or so now, I honestly can say I NEVER relized they show you double the amount you actually won. My mind is freaking blown right now. By the way, I'm down THOUSANDS, Don't gamble online people!
Excellent videos my man! This one is great! It really helps understand why online is so brutal. Very inspirational you are. Thanks for this So much.
Have you tried shaving your beard?
This video is the wake up call I needed to stop wasting my time and money with online blackjack. Thank you lol
Glad it could have that effect!
Doing Blackjack offers with Matched betting has proved profitable for me over the years but it is a painfully slow process at times playing, sometimes can’t even get onto the tables 😂
Love your content keep it up a few more months before I can start practicing in my state
Great content creation, love the skills you have, and story telling.
Thank you Josh!
Hey Steven, just wanted to say your videos have inspired me to learn card counting. Keep up the excellent work!
Thanks Muy! I recommend: blackjackapprenticeship.com/?steven
@@stevenbridges I really don't like that you just plugged an affiliate link there
@@newman77777 what's the issue?
That’s what he used, and thousands of others. It’s one of the best places to learn. What’s the problem? BJA has been around over a decade and are well known
That’s what he used, and thousands of others. It’s one of the best places to learn. What’s the problem? BJA has been around over a decade and are well known
My take on the logic id that it would be easy to write software to perfectly count cards, so they must implement a strategy to make it pointless. Shuffling slowly just puts clients onto other tables, and I'm guessing that the high stake don't make you wait!
Thank you for your service Mr S Bridges.
7hrs and no bets was harsh!!!
Any chance you could do a fun little card illusion for us this week, pretty please? Just a UA-cam short? 👍😎🇦🇺
I checked two days ago if there was any new uploads from you - then got blessed with content today! Second time this has happened haha
Here in the Netherlands all the checks have to be before you gamble, they're extremely strict on gambling here.
True
Excellent video. It's one thing to hear about how bad online casinos are, it's another to see it.
Thanks Tom, glad you liked it!
Steven!!! Glad to see your back man!
It always amazes me the lengths that casinos go to in order to thwart card counting, a very niche activity that few people can do well; by enacting measures like terrible penetration, they are essentially spending thousands to save pennies.
I asked for a audit of the decks. I wanted to see them face up. I got banned. I suspect they load the decks with more low cards and the deck itself is in the negative (countwise).
Oh that's interesting! Yeah the thing is for them to do that, LOTS of people would have to be in on it. And all it would take is for someone with software to do an analysis over a few weeks and they've have one hell of a lawsuit on their hands.
Maybe with the sketchy crypo casinos?
I personally suspect that they load the high cards in the rear of the shoe, and then stack the shuffle to maintain the acrd distribution in general. This way the shoe could be audited and show complete decks, but the players never see the 60% half of the shoe, just the 40% bit@@stevenbridges
@@stevenbridges They don't need to cheat. They know it would be easy to watch the tables and jump in at the right time. With the short penetration they know that for the most part the count will hardly ever be positive enough to play plus the bad rules they have easily stopped counting. It also helps them in the long run because it will reduce variance for everyone else. So the people that jump in randomly at the right time and win big will be reduced.
To start off yeah, u cant profit counting online realistically. The only reason I can reccommend to do it is play on stake, go to the $1-5000 table, switch to CAD and its a good way to practice ( to an extent ) while being able have minimum bet at £0.61
Amazing video, finally a good UA-camr making quality videos on things I enjoy!
we are waiting for new card counting videos! keep going please.. love and respect from Turkey.
I have loved the series you have uploaded! Love listening to the stories you have put together for us!
This was pure comedy. Thanks for putting yourself through that for our entertainment!
Never ever cut your beard!! You look absolutely FANTASTIC AND JUST MARVELOUS!!! 😤
In my experience you can't count cards online because when they shuffle they sometimes put the next shuffle card in like the first 25% of the deck. So you have only a quarter making the odds really worse. You see alot of card shuffling when playing online BlackJack.
They take the tens out and place more low cards in so the decks are not right on evolution I tried to 😢
@14:38 You absolutely keep that extra deposit they sent you. Those criminals deserve every bit of bad luck that comes their way.
Setting aside whether I think it's morally acceptable to keep the money.... I really wanted to include that update and if I _were_ to keep the money it would be unwise to mention it in a video.
@@stevenbridges crazy and I dont think its fraud if they do a mistake and lets say you dont even notice it...
@@peterers3 They have to not notice it too, at all times they can ask their money back
@@stevenbridges be super careful returning it, and go through your bank. A common scam is to *accidentally* pay someone, demand it back, and once they pay immediately pull it back from their bank.
I don't know about the UK but in the US you're not legally required to notify a company if they accidentally pay you too much money. Unless they come to you asking for it back you aren't obligated to do anything.
Dang, your co-pilot segment is VERY tempting. I’ve always wanted to hire a personal trainer but never really take action. This looks like a perfect alternative!
I love it. You can get a free trial right now using my link. So if you don’t like it no harm done. But it’s damn good
If I'm going to guess the main reason for why they are making it this hard to count cards online is to prevent bots from doing it. Because that has to be a massive issue for online blackjack games.
Is there any way to verify that they actually have an equal number of each card in a shoe? Can the house increase their odds that way?
They could do it and perhaps some do, but it would require a heck of a lot of people to be in on it and that would be risky.
So hyped every time I see a new video
Good to see you back!
Thank you! 😃
Them sending the withdrawal twice is hilarious. Would you be liable if you don't notice it for a while and don't notify them?
I think they'd be able to demand the money back. I haven't heard back from them yet re the double withdrawal.
@StevenBridges keep it, it's compensation for your troubles whilst trying to withdraw ;)
In the US, if you knowingly don't try and refund the money, it's illegal. The key is knowingly. In this case such a small amount could easily be overlooked and one could claim they didn't notice it. However, for larger amounts you would be prosecuted. It has happened, where people haven't returned mistakes in the 100's of thousands of dollars.
It's not the same as someone at a casino giving you an extra banknote on accident because banks and digital records are involved.
Liable for what lol Casino sends you money, you keep it. Simple
Am I being stupid or can you see his full bank details at 6:57? 😅😅😅
It's a fake card number :)
Nice video, it's very easy to count automatically, there is no need to be on the room waiting for the hand, just write some script to count it and alarm you when having a good count :P
Wow mate. You’re replying and love hearing a lot of comments. Bravo for keeping in touch with the community. Love your videos. Keep it up mate
I literally am grateful every single time I upload that I still have an audience so I want to reply to comments 😃
Awww that's sweet :)
Yes, we're still here
The biggest problem I found with counting cards with live dealers is the awful deck penetration. From the two sites I've been on, they will literally will cut the deck in half of an 8 deck shoe. Can't really do much with that.
Did u watch the video
@@prod6917 I did and I know he mentions it. Just saying that that is MY biggest problem with it
@@guibox3from the way you said it it sounded like you were bringing up something different from what was mentioned in the video
See the thing with online blackjack decks is that you can never be sure that they’re using 6 decks…
They always cut the show in half, so you never get a chance to actually see if they not adding more low cards in the deck.
A follower sent me here about the issue at 12:20 - it's way out of hand with sports betting, made several videos about it myself. It's like a bouncer checking you on the way out of a pub (if you had money left in your pockets only).
Keep the videos coming my favourite content on UA-cam
Wasn't it theoretically possible to use a computer to take a screenshot via a program from the table and read the numbers of the cards and then have the computer count the cards? The numbers were quite large font in these online casinos. Then you could perhaps see the standings at several tables and take over the betting of the money yourself.
It's possible, but you will have to go to court to get that money.
There terms of service will have some clause 'forbidding' you from botting. You will therefor (this would prob. work he in Germany) find a reason, why there terms of service are invalid, and therefor void. (Again, speculation, not legal advise, only my German perspective).
Writing the software is the easy part.
@@hendrikd2113 I'm not sure how they would prove you are using computer vision to read the cards. It would be impossible for them to know that. All they would be able to do is tell if you are consistently/always doing well, then make an assumption that you must be using something.
But.... the beard?
Ikr
Glad you’re back!
Thanks Aprilia!
That’s it, the „We are ready” song at the end needs to be there at the end of every video, no cap
Yeah Benjamin Squires, who is a very successful and insanely talented musician. So it's incredibly funny to me that he took the time to make that just for it to be in the last few seconds of the video 😂
Always wondered this: because you're playing online and it's easier to keep track of the cards, couldn't you develop a new counting method that tracks every card individually? Instead of using hi-lo, this new method keep tracks of every card that has been dealt and every card remaning. Would obviously have to use some sort of software, but wouldn't this more accurate count make the game playable even with bad penetration?
Consider this: even if you have a perfectly accurate tracking program, it still doesn't solve the problem that you won't get many favorable positions in the first place. Even if it increases by 20%, it will still be nothing
There is a lot of software to count cards and automation for it
This is rough because with like 6 decks the count would have to be plus 30 to even be a true +5. Card counting really only works well with 2 decks
Nah not really. You can count cards with a six shoe. But it can only done WITHOUT an cuttingcard.
6:54 I’ve got your bin now I’m gonna buy a card with the same 6 digits as you claimed they don’t care about security indicating they were non vbv. Thanks!
Keep up the good job. I would love to see a video of you playing blackjack in Monte Carlo
So many great videos, thank you Steven. Are there any good "competitive" gambling games where the dealer takes an active role in thwarting the players - like baseball pitcher vs hitter?
The odds would change if there are most players, which I why I don't think such games exist.
I like your beard. :) All the Very Sads had me giggling after a while. Glad you didn't lose All your money, and glad you did the research for us. Thanks! :)
Thanks for another helpful and entertaining video!
So happy your back bro!
Thanks Adam! Feels good to be uploading 😃
I'd like to see you bring some magic back to your card counting video's . How about some street magic in vegas ... in addition to Card counting escapades? Love your content .
Yup I always says to people you need the perfect shuffle to make counting worth it online and you probly get that once every 15-20 shuffles
Just watching the online blackjack games would be good counting practice at least lol
Here in the UK, gambling is under regulated due to lobbying from the companies. I personally think that the English Premier League is propped up massively by recreational and problem gambling
@14:42 In USA it not, BUT if they contact you within X number of days, then you have to return it. After X number of days, you CAN give it back, but are not required to.
That X number of days will vary state to state, some 10 business days, some 31 days, some 1 year.
I always wondered what would happen if you card counted online! Thanks for the vid.
A Dooma video and a Steven Bridges video pop up at nearly the same time. It's a good day.
Happy Monday!
Love these videos so much
I'm so glad you made this video because I'm tired of all of those stupid reddit posts that ask about online blackjack.
good to know youre stiil alive
What a greate video matte!
Wasn't expecting that sponsored ad! Kinda what I need as well
It’s honestly excellent. I still use it every work out
Awesome videos i watch a bunch of then in a row 😂😂
I have question because looks like there is mixed info online soft 3 vs dealer showing 4 should i hit or double according to basic strategy
Brooo I missed your videos! ❤
I quit online Casino Blackjack after 10 consecutive sessions where I never got better than a 17 to start and the dealer had 9,10 , Ace or Face cards 80% of the time and would hardly bust or pull miracle cards whenever I had the advantage. It's just no fun or point when it appears things are manipulated!
Will you do a series in the UK? I mean is it hard as I don’t think there is as many clusters of casinos in the UK really but it would be very interesting
You can also use the return button to bet the last bet :P and side bets pays nice here
So for speed blackjack, there's a repeat bet option so you can put the last bet you placed in then add on
14:18 Steven with bed head was not something I expected to see lol
More content please! Anything will do! 👍
thank u i ask u this a few weeks ago so to see it up im so happy lets see how it is
I play a LOT of speed black jack, im not sure if you know this, im not entirely through the video, but speed blackjack is basically hit whenever, whoever hits first gets the card. Its more so a “when youre feeling it” type of game compared to getting whatever comes to you in regular blackjack when depending on where youre sitting and who does what before you. Speed blackjack i could wait for the dude who i know is going to double down his 11, OR if i need a 10 and i think one is coming i could try to hit before he does so i get the 10. Idk, i enjoy it more
Also, on evolution such as speed blackjack, siders pay real well. Up to 100:1 for suited trips. I always play siders, but i make sure that my hand is big enough to make it make sense for if i win the hand but lose both siders i still profited enough.
8:02 most them do sometimes they are short staff and gotta have dealers shuffle ...normally someone is going from table to table getting shoes ready
Something I always asked myself: what if the casino replaces some cards in the shoe holding a value of ten with cards with a low value (2.3,4,..), making the game less favourable for the player. Nobody would notice. Except a card counter, who would experience to never get a positive count in hour-long sessions ... Isn't that what Steven saw ? Just my two cents
On Stake and Stake US they have another dealer come to the live table to shuffle while the main dealer is in the game still to save time.