Practicing Buddhist Right Speech: Pervasive, Wise, and Difficult

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  • Опубліковано 11 вер 2024

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  • @DougsDharma
    @DougsDharma  4 місяці тому +5

    🧡 If you find benefit in my videos, consider supporting the channel by joining us on Patreon and get fun extras like exclusive videos, ad-free audio-only versions, and extensive show notes: www.patreon.com/dougsseculardharma 🙂
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    • @RajDeepakChouhan
      @RajDeepakChouhan 27 днів тому

      @@DougsDharma Hi Doug, big admirer of your channel since years. Can you please make a highly specific video on the journey of Buddha's enlightenment. I mean how much he travelled and how much he fasted and what he learned in those 6 years and how he remained on an empty stomach for 49 days, etc. Also you mentioned Buddha did speak harshly once or twice. Can you please elaborate more on that.

  • @bretrohde7300
    @bretrohde7300 Місяць тому +5

    Well done, tackling a tricky subject which seems (on the surface) to be saddled with ambiguities and contradictions. I find it useful to remind myself of the nature of the second fetter when dealing with seeming problems like those presented here. “Rites and rituals” to me include thoughtless adherence to “moral rules” in a totally (or solely) literal fashion. Use your head, one might say; or, go by the spirit (the implicit sense) of a teaching, not necessarily by the letter.
    Thanks again, Doug, for your edifying work!

  • @archiekennedy4741
    @archiekennedy4741 Місяць тому +5

    I believe we should be especially cautious about speech rooted in taking pleasure in the suffering of others or, displeasure in other's good fortune. Gossip is often like that.

    • @nsbd90now
      @nsbd90now Місяць тому +1

      "Schadenfreude" I think is the word.

    • @DougsDharma
      @DougsDharma  Місяць тому

      Yes, agreed. It’s all to easy to fall into these syndromes.

  • @y0k0z00na
    @y0k0z00na Місяць тому +3

    Angry speech is painful, blows for blows will touch thee - DHP chapter 17

  • @euanmitchell6879
    @euanmitchell6879 Місяць тому +3

    Very interesting that this both assists with crippling self doubt and thoughtless arrogance in terms of self reflecting on one's capacity. Also, kindness and truth working in parallel to do the least harm. In terms of accumulating negative information about others, surely the intention and aim to highlight one's negative behaviour is to open the door for them and others to change behaviour, but I don't feel that's why many people do it. Great as always, cheers from Scotland Doug

  • @Johnoines
    @Johnoines Місяць тому +8

    Yes, I agree "Right Speech" is, for me, the most important and difficult aspect of Eightfold Path, particularly with loved ones...

    • @naturecure280
      @naturecure280 Місяць тому +1

      @@Johnoines That's because power of right view and thought, is lacking. And also Sila and Samadhi are lacking.

    • @Johnoines
      @Johnoines Місяць тому

      @@naturecure280 I was commenting. I was not looking for advice. Please save it unless it is asked for.

    • @nsbd90now
      @nsbd90now Місяць тому +3

      @@Johnoines Ouch! Please don't take that person's response negatively. I read it as trying to get at foundations and corrections that help us towards Right Speech.

    • @Johnoines
      @Johnoines Місяць тому

      @@nsbd90now I'm really not interested in your advice either. Neither of you know my situation. I advised the first commenter in a respectful manner (Right Speech).

    • @nsbd90now
      @nsbd90now Місяць тому +2

      @@Johnoines Sorry John!

  • @williamdonnelly224
    @williamdonnelly224 24 дні тому +1

    Real good video Doug, thanks!

  • @catherinekasmer9905
    @catherinekasmer9905 24 дні тому +1

    This is a challenging area. Good job on making this relevant in our time. I have work to do.

  • @y0k0z00na
    @y0k0z00na Місяць тому +3

    I like the side panel list at 1:20

    • @Justme-vz4px
      @Justme-vz4px Місяць тому

      me too, a nice edition ^^

    • @DougsDharma
      @DougsDharma  Місяць тому +1

      Those take a bit of time to construct, so I'm glad it's useful! 😄

  • @Justme-vz4px
    @Justme-vz4px Місяць тому +3

    9:24 always when I reject gossip I feel at least little bit of a nice feeling, like a calmness or small happiness from not producing negative emotions out of gossiping (this person did X, that Y, they were these - bad adjective etc.), because gossiping about people in its roots is a divacive speach and often a lie due to being strewn of exagurations

    • @DougsDharma
      @DougsDharma  Місяць тому +1

      Yes we should be careful with such gossip.

    • @Justme-vz4px
      @Justme-vz4px Місяць тому

      @@DougsDharma hence we should never gossip in bad meaning of this world, it's like geese talking about everything-and-nothing instead of taking matter in our hands and doing healthy and good actions haha

  • @naftalibendavid
    @naftalibendavid Місяць тому +1

    We are all doing the best we can. Great reminders. Thank you so much.

  • @xiaomaozen
    @xiaomaozen Місяць тому +2

    Love from Germany... ❤️🐱🙏

  • @Justme-vz4px
    @Justme-vz4px Місяць тому +1

    Thank you Doug for this video ^^

  • @nsbd90now
    @nsbd90now Місяць тому +5

    Ugh. I definitely don't have Right Speech.

    • @DougsDharma
      @DougsDharma  Місяць тому +3

      I’m far from perfect as well. It’s a practice.

    • @naftalibendavid
      @naftalibendavid Місяць тому +1

      Join the club. Lying to myself….just the beginning.

  • @thewayforliberation5801
    @thewayforliberation5801 29 днів тому +1

    Hello Doug! I wish you a blessed life 🙏🏻
    I have a question regarding the story with the Buddha and the Naga King thst protected him from the storm. How do you interpret that from a secular point of view?
    Thank you! 🙏🏻

    • @DougsDharma
      @DougsDharma  28 днів тому

      My pleasure! I have a discussion of nagas in this video: ua-cam.com/video/ClPdO5Vib90/v-deo.html

    • @thewayforliberation5801
      @thewayforliberation5801 28 днів тому

      @@DougsDharma thank you !!!

  • @Diogenes515
    @Diogenes515 27 днів тому +1

    Thank you! Two thoughts arising. Is it good practice to avoid contexts or people where one might be tempted into harsh speech? Also, could it generally be appropriate to prefer silence to speech, speaking only when there is a clear reason to do so?

    • @DougsDharma
      @DougsDharma  27 днів тому

      Both of these are great places to practice, which is to say, best to take each situation individually and decide for yourself what is most skillful in that situation.

  • @geoffreydawson5430
    @geoffreydawson5430 Місяць тому +2

    Oh, so that is why the judge refused me bail. Joke.

  • @bobvillanueva712
    @bobvillanueva712 Місяць тому

    "TELLING THE TRUTH IN A LIAR WORLD" By C.V. .."EVERY WISH FULFILLED" ET.

  • @TobyFlorida
    @TobyFlorida Місяць тому

    When you say the word skillful, is it being used the same as the word useful. If so, why not just say useful.

    • @DougsDharma
      @DougsDharma  29 днів тому

      Well the Pāli word is "kusala" which means in this context variously, "good at; competent, clever; skillful, skilled, expert; knowledgeable (about)". The idea is of a skill we learn how to be proficient at during a course of training.

  • @Erik20169
    @Erik20169 29 днів тому

    Interpreting "right speech " can be deviated from what Buddha talk. Buddha talk " suitable or relevant act " သမ္မာ( in Burmese Pali). Telling the right speech is impossibilile when things are against individual rights or losing one's benefits and against ethics and majority rights in some cases.

    • @DougsDharma
      @DougsDharma  29 днів тому +1

      Sure, well the Buddha did say that we should speak hard truths as well, even if they were painful to hear. It's just that we should do so at the proper time and place.

  • @keenanarthur8381
    @keenanarthur8381 Місяць тому +1

    Makes sense. The main form of focused-attention meditation I have been trained in (in addition to open-monitoring/mindfulness) involves focusing on the mental vibration of a mantra within a bodily energy center (esp. heart center and forehead center). The mind begins to take on the qualities of whatever it focuses on, so by focusing on a phrase that has a sattvic resonance and meaning we cultivate clarity and discernment and compassion, and create a wholesome subconscious karmic pattern (saṃskāra) that, with consistent practice, begins to override unwholesome patterns of thought and behavior, e.g. negative self-talk, addictions, trauma, etc.

  • @johnjones8850
    @johnjones8850 Місяць тому

    That was a royal mess. I will say it can be logically cohesive if we take a doctrine of particularism, where the particularities overrule any of the general rules. However, then the rules are really just guidelines, in which case, who knows what right speech is anymore? Anyone with ill intent can game these guidelines and always be able to use them to justify anything they say.

    • @DougsDharma
      @DougsDharma  Місяць тому +2

      We mustn’t get caught in anachronism. These are meant, as you say, as guidelines. They aren’t anything like necessary and sufficient conditions. At the end of the day, intention is what mattered to the Buddha in all action, though he never proposed nor was interested in anything like a foundationalized ethical system.

    • @SapphicFlora
      @SapphicFlora 14 днів тому

      @johnjohn8850 i can see what you mean and it is an understandable concern, but we can’t force others to be kind or share the same ideas; we can only control how we ourselves act. as long as you aim to do no harm unless necessary and you reflect and act thoughtfully, it’ll be ok.