Nice run! I dont think you rode irresponsibly. Check 2:48 how 6 skiiers completely block the narrowest part of the course. That is irresponsible, they should be standing behind each other!
It is irresponsible. As the good, fast skier, it's always your duty to watch out for those who can't because they are inexperienced, exhausted or just too busy to remain on their feet. Of course it's ridiculous to stop at the narrowest part. But this is not a free pass to nearly run over people. After all, it's not a race.
@@rrblah thank god I'm not the only skier who sees that skiers run as being careless..to say the least!!! See my other responses where I'm more opinionated about this vid. I struggle with the comments admiring this lunatic...mind numbingly shocking behaviour to my thinking!!!
From top to bottom YOU condone that entire run? How dare anybody have the audacity to stop for WHATEVER reason, without considering that a unfit, out of control, at times! skier would approach their area, yes that's right, they're DOWNSLOPE!!! , at a reckless speed, solely relying on other skiers to NOT be in HIS way..shame on them eh. Oh n that skier with the child on skies in middle of the slope unaware of the potential danger HURTLING towards them...? Well whipping is far too good for that inconsiderate behaviour I must say!! "Nice run" you said? I suggest you watch that vid once more, then consider all, yes ALL, of the near possible crashes he managed to avoid, why don't you try counting them🤔 I'm done, respond if you want, but I'm disgusted and concerned that people sharing the slopes with that mindset are coming from behind the rest of us. Look in the mirror😐
Das Video könnte man wunderbar zur Schulung verwenden um zu zeigen, wie falsche Selbsteinschätzung zur Gefahr werden kann. Die Geschwindigkeit passt vor allem an zwei Stellen nicht zum eingeschätzten können des Fahrers. Bei 1:56 am Hundschopf wird es extrem gefährlich, da der Fahrer außer seitlich abrutschen mit möglichst aufrechtem Oberkörper nichts kann, was man auch an den rudernden Armen sieht, Gleichgewicht scheint da ein Fremdwort gewesen zu sein. Wenn dort ums Eck ein anderer Skifahrer steht, ist es aus. Das zeigt sich auch später vor der Wasserstation als die 6 auch recht überforderten Skifahrer vor dem Steilhang der Wasserstation stehen. Obwohl noch einige Meter entfernt, bekommt es der Fahrer im Video nicht hin, ein oder zwei mal abzuschwingen, sondern verliert ein wenig die Kontrolle. Jemand der seine Ski im Griff hat, reagiert hier anders. Umso besser/schneller man fährt, umso mehr muss man auch schlechtere Skifahrer berücksichtigen wie eben in dieser Situation. Lässt es die Situation nicht zu, muss ich eben Geschwindigkeit rausnehmen.
auch wenn die 6 da wirklich bescheiden stehen, kann man es nur unterstreichen, man muss mit den Fehlern und Dummheiten von anderen rechnen, der Übergang am Hundschopf war auch mehr als la la, ich sehe schon warum die Bergwacht die Skier so weit bergauf als Puffer an eine Unfallstelle setzt.
Richtig! Absolut unverantwortlich. Ein Kind an der “falschen“ Stelle, hinter einer Kante - darf man sich nicht vorstellen. Lebenslänglich invalid wegen solchen Idioten, die Spass haben wollen!! Ich bin ein sehr guter Skifahrer, aber eine solche Selbstüberschätzung und Rücksichtslosigkeit gäbe es bei mir NIEMALS!
Potential killer! The hobby racer's physical potential energy becomes a battering ram in a collision. Body mass times speed squared and halved, the formula.
Ernstgemeinte Frage: Bleibt so rücksichtsloses Fahren ohne Konsequenzen in einem Skigebiet? Auf der Straße wäre der Führerschein weg. Wie seht das am Berg aus? Was sagt da die "Hausordnung" der Skiliftbetreiber? Das Video ist eine einzige Warnung, nach dem Rennen in Wengen Skiurlaub zu machen.
Those people shouldn't have been there. But they were and you couldn't stop. Which you should have been able to if you were in control, but you weren't.
There is a reason downhill courses are closed for competitors. It is for the safety of the skiing public and the downhill competitors. While this skier might be capable of navigating the World Cup downhill course, it is not a downhill event. It is an open recreational ski day, with skiers of different skill levels. And to ski as though it is a downhill event, and expect skiers below you to be aware is pretty irresponsible. I race motorcycles and there is a reason I only race with other trained racers within the controlled confines of a race track and not on the street with other vehicles. Same thing.
where was he skiing irresponsible? He seemed to be in control all the time and he always gave enough space when passing. It didn't even look like he was really trying to be super fast but it just looked like a regular run from an advanced skier. Plus it wasn't even a busy day, there could have been much, much more people. I'll go to Grindewald/Wengen on Saturday and I'll probably ski about like this dude did all day long. (let's see if I can beat his time) just because you can't safely ski this fast enough doesn't mean that nobody can. Edit: ok, the pass at 2:45 was stupid and out of control but apart from that I don't see a problem
Agreed - This guy is an idiot who should lose his pass. When he looks down at his skis you don't see good angulation or control; he is just hanging on. He's lucky he didn't crash around 2:50 and hurt someone.
Konditionell scheint er nicht schlecht bereit zu sein aber mit der Technik haperts gewaltig! Da ändert auch der Stöckli Laser WRT nichts! P.S.: Mit einem solchen Ski sollte man schon ab und zu einen geschnittenen Schwung fahren können.....
so siehts aus! Vorallem im oberen Abschnitt vor dem Hundschopf wo man schön mit viel Geschwindigkeit extreme radien tief fahren könnte ist es ein einziges gerutsche. Das sieht auch teilweise an den schwierigen und schnellen Stellen sehr unkontrolliert aus, gerade wegen dem rutschen. Die aufrechte Körperhaltung tut ihr übriges.
wtf. the run is open to the public and you are close to /borderline /over your skill limits which means in the wrong situation you are going to fly off the trail and become a statistic or hit someone and terminate them or both of you as your speeds are running 80 to105 kph. join the local adults race club. this is why i was posted on duty as speed control /ski patrol to take aside this kind of skiing on public ski runs with kids and recreational skiers enjoying a sunny day in the mountains
The skier showed very poor technique and worse judgment. He obviously has no racing experience since he did not even know where to place his poles in the start gate. This was not a closed course and was full of family skiers which dictates that any responsible skier should have slowed down as he passed them or went over blind rolls in order to allow for the unexpected. It was pure luck that he did not send someone to the hospital due to his selfish poor judgment. This is an example at its worst of skiers with poor technique skiing far faster than their skill level and showing no respect for anyone else on the mountain. We can only hope that skiers like this will hit a tree or chairlift tower before they hit a person.
Nice Run I enjoyed that. I am not a good skier and would love to be able to do that run. I did one Red in Wengan and stayed the rest of the time on Blues. I also was anoyed at those people blocking the narrow part Rediculous. Espeshally when they know its an olimpic run so high chance of people gunning it. Yes as the better/faster skier its your job to not hit them buit its also their job to not block up a ski run. Now I have left a comment i am going to watch again, thank you 🙂
Although I have never seen it enforced, those skiing dangerously or on slopes which are beyond their capability where they become dangerous to others can be cautioned and or removed. The slopes are identified with colours to provide guidance to all skiers. This does not always translate. When you buy a ticket to ride, there are no restrictions imposed. These bottlenecks can be extremely hazardous.
How do you skii soo far without leg not hurting.. For me, i am a beginner, but somehow i cannot skii for more than 50 meters maybe or less, and i have to stop because my leg hurts a lot above ankle. I think my boot is too tight over there.
Assuming your boots aren't more than one size wrong you can probably improve by buckling them differently, tighter or looser in different places. Tighter can actually be more comfortable depending what the problem is. But really you should ask your instructor if you have one, or whoever is teaching you, or whoever sold or rented you your boots. If you show them your boots and what you're doing and where you have pain they'll likely be able to sort you out.
@@nickayres5310 Thanks everyone for helping.. I found out that i was putting my pijamas under the socks (too tight above ankle)😅 Now my leg still hurts, but it is a lot better.
Good job, only three minutes and eleven seconds behind the winner. I think it might of been the start with your poles on the wrong side of the wand. Do it again.
Absolut verantwortungslos mit dieser Geschwindigkeit ebenso mit beschränkten Skifahrfähigkeiten. Solche egoistischen Touristen wollen wir in der Schweiz nicht! Nachtrag: Ich bin diese Woche die Lauberhorn-Abfahrt auf Skiern heruntergefahren und muss sagen dass es sehr anspruchsvoll ist und dieser Mann nie so hätte fahren dürfen. Man bekommt sehr schnell eine sehr hohe Geschwindigkeit und es ist sehr steil. Es stellt sich bereits die Frage, ob dieser Mann das Leben anderer gefährdet hat, nach Art. 129 StGB. Eine solche Straftat kann bis zu 5 Jahren Gefängnis führen.
His skis are not short, nor would it be gutsy. The only thing gutsy about this guy, is the speed at which he is going compared to his actual skill level. Basically he skis like a rookie with the speed approximating that of really good skiers. - Luckily though, he is fairly good at keeping safety distance.
Apart from the obvious amateurism and desire to stand out on the part of the skier, - who only managed to avoid a tragedy with the help of luck -, it is worth highlighting the CRIMINAL LACK OF RESPONSABILITY OF THE SLOPE ADMINISTRATOR , who stimulates this behavior by keeping the start gate open . ! For this purpose, the starting point is equipped with an installed photo-point !! Why do they do this? Money and advertising are probably the answers.
The upper section is a very easy glide slope. Until you get to the Hundschopf nothing dramatic happens and the Hundschopf itself is blocked (you can't jump it9. Don't blame this idiot on the ski resort. A lot of people have fun posing at the start without going berserk afterwards.
There is no good way to stop people from speeding. To discourage people from "doing it like the pros", a better measure would be to interrupt the course (for example, at the water stop), which would force people to take a short break. That also increases safety for the final turns.
@@braulyyy6033 Thanks, looks not difficult. The Mausefalle in Kitzbühel should be similar, and this is normally closed for normal people. I would skip it.
You are a bit above amateur skier my friend, or your legs are strong as mountain. My level is above intermediate but not close to professional skier, but aldo having strong legs, they are first that giving up on me, basically it would be physically hard for me to this slope without brake or two… Well done. I have never opportunity to go on competition slopes, however it’s hard not to notice a huge difference in slope preparation meaning that professional skier on this specific slope is 70% on pure ice, aldo in this video basically there was no ice at all, anyone that can explain this to me or it’s just pure accident??? Thanks
Good observation. Competition-like prep is just way too dangerous as it would be like an ice skating rink all the way down. There are videos of amateurs *trying* to go down the Streif a day or two after the race, and it's not pretty. Most skiers are simply not able to deal with such an amount of ice. And their skis might not even be properly sharpened.They would have to keep most of it locked down.
Mir nimmt er zu wenig Rücksicht. Auf gesperrter Rennpiste: okay? Aber zwischen Anfängern und Minderjährigen? Sorry, deswegen ein Dislike trotz der sportlichen Leistung.
Fast run on an icy piste. You can see by the end he’s struggling big time. Lots of grumpy keyboard warriors in the comments here. He’s nowhere near “race speed”. He takes 5 min 30 seconds to cover 4.3km so that’s an average of 47km/h. The race takes around 2 min 30 so 3 mins faster and speeds peak at 160km/h. He slows down significantly and moves right across at the accident site just below where the jump is in the race and those skiers should not be blocking the piste just before the tunnel. Yes, he comes a bit close to a kid in the lower section and goes between groups of skiers stopped on the tops of rises but he never comes that close to them. I’ve seen much much worse when I was younger skiing in the Alps.
Way too fast considering the number of skiers on the track, especially when your legs are burning like this so you have less reflex and strength for an emergency stop
@@jestraalman at 2:48, yes, people are stopped at a stupid spot, but it is your job to anticipate...he had ZERO Chance of actually stopping, so, yes, reckless
That was a decent, but not perfect run. Hard, crispy slope, that's good, perfect conditions to go high speed carving, 100 kph plus. Or slower speed, with more curves. You were drifting a lot. Probably tactical, to safe stamina, clean carving would be a lot more exhausting. I see, on some places I'd go hocke, straight,much faster. But then using hard, deep carving turns, to slow down, before less visible areas coming in. You were a bit cautious, when best conditions, but several times too fast for the visibility on a rather crowded track. OH, and a few overtaking and pass by's of stsnding skiers were way too fast, really dangerous, if those do a weird movement. For a, high-speed, run wait for a less crowded, slope. Probably close to evening, or very early in the morning.
@@jestraalman There are other people on the slope and you are skiing at your limit, sometimes over your limit. This is completely irresponsible and stupid.
I'm envious of the skill needed to ski at that speed - even though the run was less than half as fast as the professionals manage, it looked well beyond my own capabilities. However, skill is only one part of the equation. If this run is open to recreational skiers of varying ability, going as fast as you did is a bit like driving at 200kph on a busy motorway where everyone else is below 130. I sincerely hope you never do this again, both for your own good and also for the safety of others.
Tbh I hate people who don't look out for others and just gun it down the hill without control, but he took wide curves around skiers, slowed down appropriately where required and kept control at all times. I might only have one issue which is the slope at the start where a lot of people were looking down and you couldn't see what was behind it. But he had plenty of room to evade any issues there. He could have gone much faster but this looks very controlled.
Ein relativ schlechter Skifahrer. Das sieht man eindeutig an Haltung der Hände und wie er die skier in relation zur Körperhaltung hält. Zudem viel zu schnell für das maue Können, ziemlich rücksichtslos. Schnell, ja, schnell. Aber das ist seit carvingskizeiten nix mehr besonderes. Und wie extra durch stöhnen und Jammern betont wird, wie anstrengend das ist. Hat da jemand schon während der Fahrt den social media-Zuschauer im. Kopf? Das nächste mal evtl mehr focus auf Technik legen, weniger auf user-tauglichkeit des videos
Versuch mal 2 Minuten am Stück zu fahren, da kommt jeder ins Schwitzen! Ich weiss nicht wie gut, oder ob du überhaupt Ski fährst, aber das ist garantiert nicht gespielt.
@@braulyyy6033 dass es anstrengend ist keine Frage, liegt aber auch an der mäßigen Technik. Aber für einen halbwegs guten Skifahrer sind solch lange Abfahrten allemal drin.
Nice run! I dont think you rode irresponsibly. Check 2:48 how 6 skiiers completely block the narrowest part of the course. That is irresponsible, they should be standing behind each other!
Its the same problem every time. Some people always stop in the middle of the slope… Its just ridiculous
It is irresponsible. As the good, fast skier, it's always your duty to watch out for those who can't because they are inexperienced, exhausted or just too busy to remain on their feet. Of course it's ridiculous to stop at the narrowest part. But this is not a free pass to nearly run over people. After all, it's not a race.
@@rrblah thank god I'm not the only skier who sees that skiers run as being careless..to say the least!!! See my other responses where I'm more opinionated about this vid. I struggle with the comments admiring this lunatic...mind numbingly shocking behaviour to my thinking!!!
From top to bottom YOU condone that entire run? How dare anybody have the audacity to stop for WHATEVER reason, without considering that a unfit, out of control, at times! skier would approach their area, yes that's right, they're DOWNSLOPE!!! , at a reckless speed, solely relying on other skiers to NOT be in HIS way..shame on them eh. Oh n that skier with the child on skies in middle of the slope unaware of the potential danger HURTLING towards them...? Well whipping is far too good for that inconsiderate behaviour I must say!! "Nice run" you said? I suggest you watch that vid once more, then consider all, yes ALL, of the near possible crashes he managed to avoid, why don't you try counting them🤔 I'm done, respond if you want, but I'm disgusted and concerned that people sharing the slopes with that mindset are coming from behind the rest of us. Look in the mirror😐
I’m not sure what everyone was complaining about. Most of the ppl he passed weren’t even moving 😂.
Das Video könnte man wunderbar zur Schulung verwenden um zu zeigen, wie falsche Selbsteinschätzung zur Gefahr werden kann. Die Geschwindigkeit passt vor allem an zwei Stellen nicht zum eingeschätzten können des Fahrers. Bei 1:56 am Hundschopf wird es extrem gefährlich, da der Fahrer außer seitlich abrutschen mit möglichst aufrechtem Oberkörper nichts kann, was man auch an den rudernden Armen sieht, Gleichgewicht scheint da ein Fremdwort gewesen zu sein. Wenn dort ums Eck ein anderer Skifahrer steht, ist es aus. Das zeigt sich auch später vor der Wasserstation als die 6 auch recht überforderten Skifahrer vor dem Steilhang der Wasserstation stehen. Obwohl noch einige Meter entfernt, bekommt es der Fahrer im Video nicht hin, ein oder zwei mal abzuschwingen, sondern verliert ein wenig die Kontrolle. Jemand der seine Ski im Griff hat, reagiert hier anders. Umso besser/schneller man fährt, umso mehr muss man auch schlechtere Skifahrer berücksichtigen wie eben in dieser Situation. Lässt es die Situation nicht zu, muss ich eben Geschwindigkeit rausnehmen.
auch wenn die 6 da wirklich bescheiden stehen, kann man es nur unterstreichen, man muss mit den Fehlern und Dummheiten von anderen rechnen, der Übergang am Hundschopf war auch mehr als la la, ich sehe schon warum die Bergwacht die Skier so weit bergauf als Puffer an eine Unfallstelle setzt.
Richtig! Absolut unverantwortlich. Ein Kind an der “falschen“ Stelle, hinter einer Kante - darf man sich nicht vorstellen. Lebenslänglich invalid wegen solchen Idioten, die Spass haben wollen!! Ich bin ein sehr guter Skifahrer, aber eine solche Selbstüberschätzung und Rücksichtslosigkeit gäbe es bei mir NIEMALS!
Sehe ich absolut genau so! Verantwortungslos und mit solchen Leuten die Piste zu teilen, macht mir angst.
Potential killer! The hobby racer's physical potential energy becomes a battering ram in a collision. Body mass times speed squared and halved, the formula.
Great run, I can feel the thigh burn sitting watching it, and I think on an open run it was executed responsibly. Thanks for posting it.
The part above the Hunchopf is my favourite on the run - or perhaps from the railway bridge to 5 ways corner. Hell, I love the whole course!
Congrats! Nice run! Hope your tighs recovered 😅 Respect! Thanks for sahring it!
Ernstgemeinte Frage: Bleibt so rücksichtsloses Fahren ohne Konsequenzen in einem Skigebiet? Auf der Straße wäre der Führerschein weg. Wie seht das am Berg aus? Was sagt da die "Hausordnung" der Skiliftbetreiber? Das Video ist eine einzige Warnung, nach dem Rennen in Wengen Skiurlaub zu machen.
Those people shouldn't have been there. But they were and you couldn't stop. Which you should have been able to if you were in control, but you weren't.
There is a reason downhill courses are closed for competitors. It is for the safety of the skiing public and the downhill competitors. While this skier might be capable of navigating the World Cup downhill course, it is not a downhill event. It is an open recreational ski day, with skiers of different skill levels. And to ski as though it is a downhill event, and expect skiers below you to be aware is pretty irresponsible. I race motorcycles and there is a reason I only race with other trained racers within the controlled confines of a race track and not on the street with other vehicles. Same thing.
Agree. Skiing at that speed on a regular ski day is reckless and stupid. Total lack of respect for other skiers and boarders.
where was he skiing irresponsible?
He seemed to be in control all the time and he always gave enough space when passing. It didn't even look like he was really trying to be super fast but it just looked like a regular run from an advanced skier. Plus it wasn't even a busy day, there could have been much, much more people. I'll go to Grindewald/Wengen on Saturday and I'll probably ski about like this dude did all day long. (let's see if I can beat his time)
just because you can't safely ski this fast enough doesn't mean that nobody can.
Edit: ok, the pass at 2:45 was stupid and out of control but apart from that I don't see a problem
ウェンゲンのDHコースいいねー。
いまから40年近く、野沢温泉でSJ3DH3連戦というのがあって、出場しました。
フィッシャーの220センチの先端に穴が開いてる板を当時15万くらいで買って、曲がったストック、スーツと揃えてカッコだけは整えて臨みました。結果は下から数えた方が早かったけど、３日間完走できました。真面目にこれで転けたら頸椎か腰椎アウトで不随は覚悟しました。私くらいで100キロ超えてましたから。
青春の思い出です。
DH最高‼️
ウェンゲンは確か5kmもあるWCでも最長コースのはず。この動画を撮ったスキーヤーも途中から太腿に乳酸菌が溜まりまくって、自分を奮い立たせるために声を出してましたね。雪面に対して体勢を正しく維持できているから動画から斜度はわからないけれど、所々30°を超える急斜面はあるはず。そこを直滑降はやはり怖い。
でも、本当にスキーの醍醐味はDHだな〜。
The bit where the guy skis around the skiers standing to the side was first class douchbaggery
Agreed - This guy is an idiot who should lose his pass. When he looks down at his skis you don't see good angulation or control; he is just hanging on. He's lucky he didn't crash around 2:50 and hurt someone.
The part where a bunch of idiots stop and block a bottleneck is worse
@@counterfit5around the bend of a turn too.
Konditionell scheint er nicht schlecht bereit zu sein aber mit der Technik haperts gewaltig! Da ändert auch der Stöckli Laser WRT nichts! P.S.: Mit einem solchen Ski sollte man schon ab und zu einen geschnittenen Schwung fahren können.....
so siehts aus! Vorallem im oberen Abschnitt vor dem Hundschopf wo man schön mit viel Geschwindigkeit extreme radien tief fahren könnte ist es ein einziges gerutsche. Das sieht auch teilweise an den schwierigen und schnellen Stellen sehr unkontrolliert aus, gerade wegen dem rutschen. Die aufrechte Körperhaltung tut ihr übriges.
Danke fur die info, ich bin keiner skier aber das sah nur so aus ob er “rutscht” und nicht carved. Vermutten bestatigd
Well dobę and congrats on this. You swallowed the course in one single run. That's an achievement. I can only imagine the legs burning at the end
Unverantwortlich, sorry aber besonders in den Engstellen hätte es böhse enden können. Solche Fahrer sollten aus dem Verkehr gezogen werden.
Ski gods please protect me and my family from "expert" skiers like this on the slope!
Zero percent carving, weight on his heels, hockeystopping the entire way down the slope.
😂
Well done dude! Now you gotta do the Hahnenkamm!
wtf. the run is open to the public and you are close to /borderline /over your skill limits which means in the wrong situation you are going to fly off the trail and become a statistic or hit someone and terminate them or both of you as your speeds are running 80 to105 kph. join the local adults race club. this is why i was posted on duty as speed control /ski patrol to take aside this kind of skiing on public ski runs with kids and recreational skiers enjoying a sunny day in the mountains
Great run. Thoroughly looking forward to flying down that mountain myself next January.
Lucky you, don’t forget to bring your fireproof legs!
There is no shame in taking a break when going down this one!
The skier showed very poor technique and worse judgment. He obviously has no racing experience since he did not even know where to place his poles in the start gate. This was not a closed course and was full of family skiers which dictates that any responsible skier should have slowed down as he passed them or went over blind rolls in order to allow for the unexpected. It was pure luck that he did not send someone to the hospital due to his selfish poor judgment. This is an example at its worst of skiers with poor technique skiing far faster than their skill level and showing no respect for anyone else on the mountain. We can only hope that skiers like this will hit a tree or chairlift tower before they hit a person.
Da würde man wohl am liebsten gleich nochmal hoch mit der Sesselibahn und ein zweites Mal runterstechen. ^^
I’ve done that run. Took a bit longer though.
Great run. I am glad you did not hit any of the other skiers standing on the route.
Netted off the Hundschopf ? Like to have seen you fly over there.
I like how everyone in the comments is suddenly a FIS ski racing expert
Nice Run I enjoyed that. I am not a good skier and would love to be able to do that run. I did one Red in Wengan and stayed the rest of the time on Blues. I also was anoyed at those people blocking the narrow part Rediculous. Espeshally when they know its an olimpic run so high chance of people gunning it. Yes as the better/faster skier its your job to not hit them buit its also their job to not block up a ski run. Now I have left a comment i am going to watch again, thank you 🙂
Although I have never seen it enforced, those skiing dangerously or on slopes which are beyond their capability where they become dangerous to others can be cautioned and or removed. The slopes are identified with colours to provide guidance to all skiers. This does not always translate. When you buy a ticket to ride, there are no restrictions imposed. These bottlenecks can be extremely hazardous.
It's NOT an "Olympic run". The run is just a normal run, with normal skiers on it. It is only a race track once a year.
Was sind das bei 2.52 für Schwachmaten, die auf dem Ziehweg nebeneinander ein Kaffeeklatsch machen? Tolle Fahrt!
Quite annoying how most skiers are completely unaware of others on the slope
Yes , people should have been aware there was an idiot flying down the mountain!
Great run mate well done! Ignore the ski Karens in the comments, go hard or go home!
nice move to avoid the gapers!
Downhill on slalom skis?
How do you skii soo far without leg not hurting.. For me, i am a beginner, but somehow i cannot skii for more than 50 meters maybe or less, and i have to stop because my leg hurts a lot above ankle. I think my boot is too tight over there.
Assuming your boots aren't more than one size wrong you can probably improve by buckling them differently, tighter or looser in different places. Tighter can actually be more comfortable depending what the problem is.
But really you should ask your instructor if you have one, or whoever is teaching you, or whoever sold or rented you your boots. If you show them your boots and what you're doing and where you have pain they'll likely be able to sort you out.
You may have shin bang
Are you leaning into the boot with your shins?
@@nickayres5310 Thanks everyone for helping.. I found out that i was putting my pijamas under the socks (too tight above ankle)😅
Now my leg still hurts, but it is a lot better.
Well done! Could feel the speed at times (and the thigh burn lol)
8 years old girl was killed on a run by an "expert" like this. Join a racing club & ski on closed piste. Hope you don't drive like this 😢
That looked like a bad plan.
Nice to watch. Good camera. Very good occasional skier.
Solche Aktionen mit den beschränkten skifahrerischen können sollte man unterlassen.
My toes would be going through my boots when I came up to the families.
Awesome run dude!
Good job, only three minutes and eleven seconds behind the winner. I think it might of been the start with your poles on the wrong side of the wand.
Do it again.
Absolut verantwortungslos mit dieser Geschwindigkeit ebenso mit beschränkten Skifahrfähigkeiten. Solche egoistischen Touristen wollen wir in der Schweiz nicht!
Nachtrag:
Ich bin diese Woche die Lauberhorn-Abfahrt auf Skiern heruntergefahren und muss sagen dass es sehr anspruchsvoll ist und dieser Mann nie so hätte fahren dürfen. Man bekommt sehr schnell eine sehr hohe Geschwindigkeit und es ist sehr steil. Es stellt sich bereits die Frage, ob dieser Mann das Leben anderer gefährdet hat, nach Art. 129 StGB. Eine solche Straftat kann bis zu 5 Jahren Gefängnis führen.
Vielleicht den benutzernamen auf mimimimi2867 ändern?😅
Warum stehen immer soviele skifahrer mitten auf der piste?
Touristen
pretty gutsy on short skis
His skis are not short, nor would it be gutsy. The only thing gutsy about this guy, is the speed at which he is going compared to his actual skill level. Basically he skis like a rookie with the speed approximating that of really good skiers. - Luckily though, he is fairly good at keeping safety distance.
Great run! I could feel my thighs burning 🔥:)
stokli for the win!
Fantastic
Excellent health!!! My congratulations! It was cool!!!
nice!!!
Bei 4:30 circa, das müsste der Sprung sein bei dem sich A. Assinger 89 schwer verletzt hat
Whar lenght of skis? Looks far too short.
That was awesome! Never see that in the US.
If Happy Gilmour had skis.
Haha right? Zero percent carving, weight on his heels, hockeystopping the entire way down the slope.
Breathe, breathe and Breathe!
KUDOS! I did this same thing (recreating the FIS race but without gates) at Lake Louise and Garmisch Partenkirchen
Ooh to be young again. Epic!
Apart from the obvious amateurism and desire to stand out on the part of the skier, - who only managed to avoid a tragedy with the help of luck -, it is worth highlighting the CRIMINAL LACK OF RESPONSABILITY OF THE SLOPE ADMINISTRATOR , who stimulates this behavior by keeping the start gate open . !
For this purpose, the starting point is equipped with an installed photo-point !!
Why do they do this? Money and advertising are probably the answers.
The upper section is a very easy glide slope. Until you get to the Hundschopf nothing dramatic happens and the Hundschopf itself is blocked (you can't jump it9. Don't blame this idiot on the ski resort. A lot of people have fun posing at the start without going berserk afterwards.
There is no good way to stop people from speeding. To discourage people from "doing it like the pros", a better measure would be to interrupt the course (for example, at the water stop), which would force people to take a short break. That also increases safety for the final turns.
what's a good time for a recreational skier on this course?
About 4:15, his time.
@@gregpenner4572 Thanks, Greg.
No jump?
Hat down !! Congrats!
Stocklis are the best!
I'm an ex downhill racer, well done but if you want the full buzz grab some 222's & a helmet
You ever done the Streif? Just wondering.
Watch out for the moving gates!
My legs were skiing that with you!
das bin ich schon doppelt so schnell gefahren, zwar nicht bei so eisigen Bedingungen aber das würde ich gerne mal
Ceux qui sont on milieu de la piste 😮
Where was the Winchkante?
I believe that 2:14 is what you're looking for. "Minschkante"
@@braulyyy6033 Thanks, looks not difficult. The Mausefalle in Kitzbühel should be similar, and this is normally closed for normal people. I would skip it.
Tip of the hat
Wonderful place but with children and other people you were way too fast.
Maybe, but what are some of those idiots doing stopping right in the middle?!
Its like stupid moms coming with their babies to skateparks sitting on ledges and stuff
No the pace was ok
Maybe families with children should stay on more familyfriendly slopes? Why do they have to block/slow down other skiers?
I thought the speed was fine- just drifting past the other skiers.
cool stuff, beautiful run and you are lucky to be able to do this. what are they classifying this run as?
Seriously? This is wengen, classified in top 3 most dangerous slopes…
Awesome dude
Wow well done! A bucket list item for me!
You are a bit above amateur skier my friend, or your legs are strong as mountain.
My level is above intermediate but not close to professional skier, but aldo having strong legs, they are first that giving up on me, basically it would be physically hard for me to this slope without brake or two…
Well done.
I have never opportunity to go on competition slopes, however it’s hard not to notice a huge difference in slope preparation meaning that professional skier on this specific slope is 70% on pure ice, aldo in this video basically there was no ice at all, anyone that can explain this to me or it’s just pure accident???
Thanks
Good observation. Competition-like prep is just way too dangerous as it would be like an ice skating rink all the way down. There are videos of amateurs *trying* to go down the Streif a day or two after the race, and it's not pretty. Most skiers are simply not able to deal with such an amount of ice. And their skis might not even be properly sharpened.They would have to keep most of it locked down.
Impressive stuff!
Race speed ..... lol .... do you even seeatleast once the dh race on this slope?
He's going at a fair lick but not glat out
Snel gedaan. Sneller dan ik haha. Heb je speciale ski's gebruikt?
as long as you own a good pair of carving skis, you're good to go
ICY!! 🥶! Cheers!
The skier was in pain city. The longest run in the downhill has recorded some racers going over 100 mph.
Mir nimmt er zu wenig Rücksicht. Auf gesperrter Rennpiste: okay? Aber zwischen Anfängern und Minderjährigen? Sorry, deswegen ein Dislike trotz der sportlichen Leistung.
Naja ist er jemanden wirklich nahe gekommen? eigentlich ja nicht so gesehen. Trotzdem könnte man natürlich ein bisschen vorsichtiger fahren - Stimmt!
@@moritzmimi Auf dem schmalen Weg bei 2:50 fährt er ganz nah...
ok Karen 👍🏻
@@pascalwicht5272weil die leute da die Fahrbahn zu stehen…. Wo soll er denn sonst durch
@@timon9645 Langsamer, vielleicht ?
Epic!!!
Fast run on an icy piste. You can see by the end he’s struggling big time. Lots of grumpy keyboard warriors in the comments here. He’s nowhere near “race speed”. He takes 5 min 30 seconds to cover 4.3km so that’s an average of 47km/h. The race takes around 2 min 30 so 3 mins faster and speeds peak at 160km/h. He slows down significantly and moves right across at the accident site just below where the jump is in the race and those skiers should not be blocking the piste just before the tunnel. Yes, he comes a bit close to a kid in the lower section and goes between groups of skiers stopped on the tops of rises but he never comes that close to them. I’ve seen much much worse when I was younger skiing in the Alps.
🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
Und die sind das in nicht mal 2 Minuten gefahren 😂
Way too fast considering the number of skiers on the track, especially when your legs are burning like this so you have less reflex and strength for an emergency stop
That is like a high speed game of Frogger.
'Expert'? If you say so.
I like how hes calling himself an expert skier in the description
what was your top speed?
exciting but unacceptable to be encouraged by the ski area to undertake this on a public course.
Great run
A good example how NOT to ski. Way to dangerous!!!
Ich finde auch das Sie ziemlich rücksichtslos fahren! Sah auch nicht ganz so cool aus Ihr Schwung !
No it's not. Why are you saving this?
Ich finde er hat es sehr gut gemacht
@@jestraalman at 2:48, yes, people are stopped at a stupid spot, but it is your job to anticipate...he had ZERO Chance of actually stopping, so, yes, reckless
Menuda tontería..
That was a decent, but not perfect run. Hard, crispy slope, that's good, perfect conditions to go high speed carving, 100 kph plus. Or slower speed, with more curves. You were drifting a lot. Probably tactical, to safe stamina, clean carving would be a lot more exhausting.
I see, on some places I'd go hocke, straight,much faster. But then using hard, deep carving turns, to slow down, before less visible areas coming in. You were a bit cautious, when best conditions, but several times too fast for the visibility on a rather crowded track.
OH, and a few overtaking and pass by's of stsnding skiers were way too fast, really dangerous, if those do a weird movement. For a, high-speed, run wait for a less crowded, slope. Probably close to evening, or very early in the morning.
Full Yeti
Ziemlich rücksichtslos. Die anderen können ja auf die Seite flüchten...
No it's not. Why are you saving this?
@@jestraalman There are other people on the slope and you are skiing at your limit, sometimes over your limit. This is completely irresponsible and stupid.
@@danielduesentriebjunior How so you see this? For me it looks very controlled
@@jestraalman Find ich nüd er hats gut gemacht
Skiing is an accident waiting to happen.
WELL DONE!
lots of jerrys
I'm envious of the skill needed to ski at that speed - even though the run was less than half as fast as the professionals manage, it looked well beyond my own capabilities. However, skill is only one part of the equation. If this run is open to recreational skiers of varying ability, going as fast as you did is a bit like driving at 200kph on a busy motorway where everyone else is below 130. I sincerely hope you never do this again, both for your own good and also for the safety of others.
Tbh I hate people who don't look out for others and just gun it down the hill without control, but he took wide curves around skiers, slowed down appropriately where required and kept control at all times. I might only have one issue which is the slope at the start where a lot of people were looking down and you couldn't see what was behind it. But he had plenty of room to evade any issues there. He could have gone much faster but this looks very controlled.
Ein relativ schlechter Skifahrer. Das sieht man eindeutig an Haltung der Hände und wie er die skier in relation zur Körperhaltung hält. Zudem viel zu schnell für das maue Können, ziemlich rücksichtslos. Schnell, ja, schnell. Aber das ist seit carvingskizeiten nix mehr besonderes. Und wie extra durch stöhnen und Jammern betont wird, wie anstrengend das ist. Hat da jemand schon während der Fahrt den social media-Zuschauer im. Kopf? Das nächste mal evtl mehr focus auf Technik legen, weniger auf user-tauglichkeit des videos
It's not reckless. Why are you saving this?
As for technique. Of course, it can always be done in a better way
Blödsinn
Versuch mal 2 Minuten am Stück zu fahren, da kommt jeder ins Schwitzen! Ich weiss nicht wie gut, oder ob du überhaupt Ski fährst, aber das ist garantiert nicht gespielt.
De dömmschti Kommentar wo ech setz langem gse han🤦♂️
@@braulyyy6033 dass es anstrengend ist keine Frage, liegt aber auch an der mäßigen Technik. Aber für einen halbwegs guten Skifahrer sind solch lange Abfahrten allemal drin.