Northeast Ohio cities are blocking new car washes. Here's what's driving the backlash.
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- Опубліковано 13 тра 2024
- A new zoning-code change in Brook Park is the latest in a series of local attempts to fight the car-wash boom. It's a response to big changes in the industry.
It sounds to me that either politicians, or rich supporters of politicians in that area own already existent car washes and don't want competition. Maybe that should be checked into.
communism is supposed to oppress the people, can you see it yet....
I'm almost willing to bet money you're spot-on
ding ding ding
You don’t think there’s too many?
@@ericp4573 If the demand is there for it, there aren't too many. That's like asking if there's too many if every grocery store in the area had a 1 hour wait at checkout because the line was too long. If the demand is there, the correct answer is one more, even if it means adding more of the same brand to meet it.
If there’s a market for that many car washes, they should be allowed to open. If not, they’ll go out of business. It’s a free market system. The mayor shouldn’t have to dictate which legal businesses can open.
The “mayor” is just another pawn in the game for Big Dirt who is minimizing cleanliness to maximize propagated filth.
that will allow super efficient washes,
putting high quality local car washes out of business.
basically like buying China crap
Brookpark sure has that small town vibe. Only 3 strip clubs.
🤣
They would be better off banning politicians than actual businesses.
And O' Malley's hotel has shut down. Why even BP anymore. That and the strip clubs were the only thing that they had offering. I remember being so exhausted after work at Ford, I would go and get a room to catch some relaxation hoping to spend the night....and getting a new room every hour. Good times
The market will decide when there are too many car washes, and there isn’t enough business to sustain them
Too many car washes? If that's your citys problem, then you got it pretty good!!
Until you let venture capitalist to do business unchecked.
@@notinamerica_911can you explain what you mean please?
@@chavvy9074He has no idea what he means.
Sounds like the existing car washes are behind this and the leader of the town might be making a little extra too!
That is probably true... Follow the money.
exactly!
That’s kind of funny he must have an investment in one of those car washes
What makes you think that Jimbo?
GENIUS
They need to also do this with fast food places?
The car wash police.
We need one or the rich will take over with their car washes and other get rich quick crap..
@@notinamerica_911 So now there is something wrong with car washes? Tell that to the people who use them. The people who object are snobs.
@@notinamerica_911 Car washes aren't a nuisance they are used by people with jobs. These people are just snobs.
Thank Heavens the local government has nothing else to worry about! Must be quite a place to live!!
CEO of the International Car Wash Association... That sounds like a B.S. do nothing job.
he's a lobbyist. His job exists because car wash owners donate to him so he can convince politicians to not do anything stupid. One of the few functional aspects of our "democracy" believe it or not.
if we were a fundamentally non-demcoratic country then we wouldn't need lobbyists and their types. We'd just have free markets: customers, property owners, and investors decide what makes sense to build or not build.
Our local government has banned washing your car at home. Yes, you can be arrested for having your kids hose off the family car in your drive because it’s “ environmentally unsound”. So we have lots of car washes. At $24.00 a wash some one is getting rich and I’m guessing the twp. supervisors have their vig in the pot.
If I own the property and I pay my water bill, I will wash my car anytime I want the city will not tell me that I can or can’t wash my own car in my own property with the water I pay for That’s for sure
Do you live in California? If so, that explains it all
@@randywissler9923 Pennsylvania.
Bingo. Coming to your local neighborhood. California EPA got the ball rolling and it is spreading. "Contaminants" washed from your car pollute the waterways. Apparently, they will need to stop the rain as well.
Put a hose facet in the garage along with a drain and wash it there. It won’t harm the environment and they won’t know.
What about fast food restaurants , gas stations , and pizza shops . Brookpark is in the running for the Browns Stadium . You can bet the_ DICTATOR MAYOR has vested interests , FOLLOW THE MONEY TRAIL !
I thought the same when he said he doesn't want to have the town locked into one kind of business. People in his position should think about what they are saying, or they'll sound really ignorant when they say it.
Yep.
Keeping the underneath of your vehicle clean is important.
I like going in the winter to clean off the salt accumulations.
That’s what she said…….
🥁
@@maxwellcrazycat9204 coat the underneath of your car/truck/suv with a product like Fluid Film in late Fall
This mayor is having a pipe dream. The local meat market is history. One car wash for 18,000 people is ridiculous.
"I want that small town feel" really means, I am going to stop my town from growing.
I own property in a town that has anti expansion wording in the township charter and planning commission bylaws. No suburbanization of our little town and no major chain stores except Dollar General and gas stations. No McDonalds, no Burger king, no car washes, only antiques and private small businesses. Three cops for the entire township on duty. Land may not be divided into five acre strip lots and any divisions of land can only be to family of current owner. So If you buy forty acres you live on forty acres with no subdividing.
A "small town feel" usually includes more infill development that increases amenities other than those that only serve automobiles. Think of a small town main street rather than spaced out gas stations and car washes.
Have you been to Brook park it needs to stop growing so much. It's awful..
No, he’s talking about diversified close knit community where there are small businesses. As he said.
@@grimacresin America? The hell? That’s basically a 1600s England charter.
Government has no business interfering in this kind of activity!
Politicians think democracy is only what they vote for and mandate but they ignore the votes every citizen makes with their wallet when they frequent a store. Citizens need to vote out deaf Politicians and support free markets!
That is why I never vote for politicians at the County level here in Las Vegas. They work for the casino industry and the LDS church. Frankly, I could care less if they build the church or not. They have been chipping away at the rural preservation zone for years with the ultimate goal of turning it all into city land with their crappy dense housing.
Politicians are controlled by BIG MONEY INTERESTS ! Democrats or Republicans , it does not matter .
@@vicpetrishak7705 if that was true in this case, wages would go down to benefit companies, not up!
@@letricblueuh you def don’t want that, people can’t afford to live as it is.
@@letricblue also, it doesn’t have to be big money as in massive corporations, this dude’s family could own a car wash for all we know and be aiming at eliminating competition and making more money himself.
3:06 "When you're a mayor, you actually have to listen to all of your constituents." Here's an idea. Let your constituents decide directly, by spending their money on as many or few businesses of any kind. Don't meddle in the market. Move to Cuba if you want government to centrally plan things.
Better to have car washes than vape shops or nail salons
Why??
@@chavvy9074vape shop aka the crack pipe store
The mayor wants flower shop, meat market or bakery? They are gone because they take a ton of work, and DON’t MAKE MONEY
The mayor must have something more important to do.
Don’t worry he will want more new taxes to subsidize the Browns . All MonkeyBall owners are Billionaires , every MonkeyBall player is a MUTI-MILLIONAIRE . The Suckers ( taxpayers ) will be TOLD to build their new PLAYGROUND !
This is just silly. Oh please protect us from car washes. I’m sure that there are bigger problems that need to be addressed
The CEO of the International Car Wash Association summed it up: this has become a "do it for me" economy versus in the old days when the person would do it themselves. The investments from private equity firms are only symptomatic of this trend; they're reacting to people being too busy to do much for themselves.
Too busy, or just too Lazy ?
I am one of the last hold-outs who washes my own in my neighborhood. Even the geezers go to the car wash. Ditto with cutting your own grass. Everyone has a lawn service.
@@BlackMan614how does any of that matter?
If anyone should fight it it's the gas stations that already had car washes. It shouldn't bother anyone else. I haven't heard any reasons why they are a problem?
You can't realistically wash a truck at home without a ladder. It would be a huge project. That's part of what's driving this.
@@jamisojo People are lazy. Bottom line. It matters.
Where I live there are 7 car washes within 1 mile...
They're (apparently) silly profitable with these $20+/month subscriptions which is why they're trying to cram them into towns like sardines.
This is all the silliest discussion.
I'm not paying $30 for a membership, regardless of whether I use it or not. I don't need more than one wash every month. And I probably don't need that much.
Scratch factories!!
No one cares anymore everyone just buys the same SUV and couldn't tell you the last time they changed their own oil or where the battery is!
If there’s a market for them, they should be allowed. If not, they will close and go out of business. It’s a free market system.
nothing at all wrong with *TOUCHLESS* car washes.....I use them all the time on my luxury cars.....I *NEVER* use the automatic BRUSH washes- EVER.
@@inadad8878 Sad and true.
@@kendallhughes7507 UR MOM USES THE AUTOMATIC BRUSH WASHES
I mean you could say the same thing about coffee shops or fast food places.
Fast food places have taken over and it is all the more reason cities should limit how many of any kind of merchants are allowed in every given city.
There are so many fast food places they have a hard time getting help
@@arthurbrumagem3844 every place in America is having a hard time getting help
@@notinamerica_911 why would I want them to limit how many options I have to eat? It benefits me every time. If they can't afford to make it then they go out of business and somebody else takes over the location. It isn't anything for me to be concerned about.
These car washes are out of control where I live, too. Everywhere. I am a member of the earliest one, and my membership fee has gone up three times in price in the last year. May be time to switch. If you threaten to cancel your membership they will often give you the next 3 months for 1/2 price to try to keep you.
I barely wash my car once a month. Maybe twice I'm on occasionally.
I like having money, not memberships.
Surely, you understand that your membership has encouraged car washes.
@@jamisojo Yes, I have definitely considered doing away with the membership. It's a toss-up for me. Individual car washes here cost about $16 and the monthly membership is $37 so if I wash twice a month I'm about even. Some months I've washed 5 or 6 times, other months maybe just once. I probably break even. it's also nice that members can "cut the line" ahead of the line of people paying for individual washes.
I see a bunch of these car washes pop up, even multiple ones from the same company in small towns... I've seen Ozark and breaking bad. They're laundering money!
Yeah they've actually popped up back to back corner to corner within this last year it's absolutely crazy how they were getting all of our money and water like this
I live in Pittsburgh and have been noticing the same thing, they're popping up EVERYWHERE sum within a mile or less of each other.
How about five car washes within a two mile square area and six storage places?
If they are, then the county needs to do the work and investigate them. They shouldn’t be guilty before proven so.
I've not been to that part of Ohio or much of the midwest, but here in Las Vegas the same thing is happening. The answer is private equity is investing in these carwashes that have a subscription model. The same with the excess of storage places. These carwashes and storage places will be eyesores that will stand for the next 30 - 50 years unfortunately.
You are wise.
What about water scarcity in general out west? How irresponsible, but of course greed always wins even if it means not addressing the water shortage in favor of profits for the rich.
Maybe the city should paint the streets your favorite color and you will be happy !
@@vicpetrishak7705 wth are you talking about?
@@notinamerica_911 It seems as if the mayor wants to control every business in town without considering the business o
It always troubles me when governments get involved business decisions. They always seem to have their own “vision” of how their town should look, even when the citizens feel otherwise (not by their votes, but by their decisions to USE the businesses). Often a business with connections within the government will get laws passed that limits competition as a way to maximize profits. This has happened in nursing homes, where a new facility has to show “need” to the state for another nursing home. This way, poor quality nursing homes can stay in business because they have the bed certificates from the state, and entrepreneurs cannot come in and build competing nursing homes to offer better quality and price.
$30/month for a car wash subscription?? Some people have a lot of money to waste.
You're kidding right.That's a good deal. 1 car wash a day? That breaks down to $1 a car wash. Where I live the best car wash is $20 for everything, one time, or a $30 a month subscription. I made the most of it for more than 3 years. The company had to limit everyone to no more than 2 car washes a day. I pay $30 a month, and go twice nearly every day.
Actually, that ain’t bad as long as you use it, a regular car wash is $12 where I live. I don’t use them because I have a black car that will show every little scratch. Car washes are not the best thing for modern water based paint. Having said that, I do take my truck and the wife’s car (it’s a lease) through every once in a while.
@@Cline3911who has time to wash their car every day? Who would want to take the time?
I may wash mine when it's dirty and it doesn't get very dirty more than once a month. And an 8 or 10 dollar car wash would work just fine also.
@@jamisojo Who has time to wash their car every day? I can't speak for others, but the car wash is on my way home from work and takes about 5 minutes to be pulled through the tunnel. If you car isn't getting dirty, odds are its kept in a garage and isn't driven far. I average about 40,000 miles a year for mine. So I make the most of my car washes every month.
Where I live at in Oklahoma, there is 6 car washes. The town is roughly 17,000 people. A few are always busy. The others not so much. They just built a big one that don't seem to busy.
Wow that is crazy!!
Sounds like the politicians have a vested interest directly or indirectly in this decision. I'm shocked.
Here in Utah they have literally popped up over this entire year on every goddamn corner!!! Were in snow half the Year by the way
You're just jealous that you're car is the dirtiest in town. 😂
Which is when you want to be washing your car. Get the salt off the underside of your car to prevent it rusting out and needing costly repars, or a brand new vehicle
They literally are not on every corner.
I don't care how many they build as long as they can make it work financially. That's their problem, not mine.
I might get my car washed once a month and if they go out of business I'll just go somewhere else.
I thought this was a economy of supply and demand?? Are they like this towards liquor stores? Probably not SMH
What a dumb Mayor!😂
They’re popping up all over in SoCal as well, must be very lucrative for investors/owners
It's easy to use them for money laundering. Now if every black market boutique opened a car wash to clean their money...there would be about this many and more coming.
Something I have not spent to much of my life worrying about ,but I see what they are saying. After the oil crash in 1983 in Houston our mayor said we need to diversify.
I find it strange that a locale will piss and moan about low tax revenues, then, when business want to invest in a community, bringing the much needed tax revenues to an area, the local government says "no thanks".
This stinks of corruption. Like a mayor, or city council has invested or owns a, or several car washes and doesn't want the competition.
Typical government. Offer him 5% of each then see where it goes
The market will determine what businesses want to open and where, not some Mayor that doesn't have a clue about how to run a business. It sounds like they would rather have vacant lots than certain types of businesses. I get limiting adult book stores or nightclubs but what harm does a car wash pose to a city?
If I can't hand wash I don't wash my car. I don't use those ever!
It actually saves more water to use one of those places that recycles the water
Come wash mine please
I use 2 gallon hand pump sprayer. And fill it with water so hose isn't use at all. It's usually used for weed spraying but I just fill it with water
@@trninfanYes, but they waist a bunch of electric and gasoline. Just wash the car yourself in the driveway. Besides I wash my car and then immediately garage it. If I used a car wash the car would be dirty before I could store it.
I don't use them either cuz they beat the hell out of your clear coat
People can’t afford groceries but they sure got a clean car 🙄
Let the market decide.
I thought I was crazy when I seen alot of car washes popping up everywhere in my home town of Tampa bay fl
This is dumb. If people want to build them, and customers want to buy there, why can you do that in a free country. As a mayor you also have to follow the constitution and I see nowhere that gives a city the power to do this
Supply and demand will filter out the number of businesses needed.
The mayor is full of it and is obviously protecting one of the existing business owners from competition.
Sounds like something else than cars are being washed at those places. Also check barber shops and nail salons.
In Bradenton Florida we have 3 within a 1.5 mile stretch of SR 64.
It's tim÷ to look into the Mayor's financial and investment background and net worth.And where his money i's coming from.
I’m in Australia. No wonder America is failing, if a Mayor thinks it his job to decide how many car washes a town should have.
Small investment into a cheap powerwasher, about the cost of that membership for two months, you have the tool to efficiently wash your car, house, drive, sidewalk, and much more. As a child in the 1970's, the first time I saw a TV remote control, and how people behaved in relation to such, I stated, "if you want to be rich, you just need to figure out how to make it so people can be lazy."
Baffles me how people take their new cars to the scratchem up automatic car washes.
Some car washes are extremely loud! You can hear them miles away, a high-pitched whine. Also, some customers feel like everyone wants to hear their "music" while they are vacuuming.
The city governments really need to come clean about their intentions.
So businesses that meet customer demand are blocked because the mayor personally wants to see the exact business he’s nostalgic for, even if his constituents dont want them and the business owners will lose money.
Our local car wash is $20 a month subscription for the basic. I use it at least once a week. Free vacuuming. Works for me.
The truth of the matter is our society is getting lazier and lazier.
More like finding better things to do with their time, like spending it with family, doing fun things.
Customer demand is high. Small businesses are thriving. Politicians to the rescue to fix this crisis.
That mayor must have a financial stake in one or more of those car washes.
Why cant they do this dollar stores? They are one of the biggest economy killers
We must stand with our government 🤨
Arguments are welcome and any aggressive remarks will get flagged.
We have had 3 car washes for several yrs now. Two of them had 1 stall for automatic. Last year a new one opened that is all automatic like the ones shown. I've never been through it and don't plan to. I'll wash my car myself, and it usually around $5 or under. I vacuum my cars at home, and will sometimes go over the stubborn spots I missed at the car wash.
What about banning hamburger fast food places - too many . Toronto Ontario Canada does Not have enough good car washes . What ever happened to Topless car washes . ????
People don't realize those plastic brushes leave minute scrathes on your windows, especially your windshield. They're not noticeable until you drive into the diect sunlight in your face. I haven't used a car wash in years, all my windows are fine.
🤔 Why would these local politicians care if there are more car washes that citizens can use. If there’s too many then the free market will take care of that. I’m thinking it’s something to do with these politicians being lobbied by these current owners or they have a tie to these existing car washes and they don’t want anymore. Always hold your public officials accountable. If they have any interest or tied to these car washes, this would be an abuse of power!
I agree with the mayor, too many people trying to open these types of places, instead of running an actual business where they have to do some real work, and I don’t want my town saturated with car washes especially in the Midwest.
Madness! Let free market decide. The court will throw this law out.
So many car washes, but none (maybe one or two?) of them offer interior cleaning services. I would happily pay someone at the car wash to vacuum and spray clean the inside of my vehicle.
That’s what they call Free Enterprise!
We have 3 in about a 8 minute drive on the same street,2 are right next to each other
I wash my own truck. More clean for less. I also don't pay someone else to make me a hotdog either.
I don't understand. The market drives demand. If there are too many, the worst will die. Does that butcher also serve 18,000 people? There aren't too many car washes until they start going out of business. There is something going on with this. That mayor looks total sketch...
Government is the problem. The government needs to stop telling people what to do
"You have to listen to your constituents", then put it on a ballot and let the people vote. My guess is "his constituents" (and large donor) are one of the existing car washes who don't want more competition.
In Germany, they made it illegal to wash your car on your own property. I thought that with all these car washes popping up, maybe the USA was heading in that direction as well....
I've noticed several new car wash businesses opening up , along with bank's. I guess the car wash owners, need a bank for their money.
Looks like that car wash owner is involved into this. He looks so happy.
Private Equity is a threat to those who want to wash their own car? You learn something new everyday.
I was born and raised in Southern California.Moved to Austintown Ohio 6 years ago.When I first got here I was like,Why the hell are there more car washes in Northeast Ohio than Los Angeles?!!! And to the guy that said how can you beat a $30 a month car wash?Easy bud,wash your own car.People are so lazy anymore they can’t even wash a car on a nice day!!!!!SADDDDDD
What about all of the ride sharing people?
Time is money.
*EDIT*
What about all the people who live in apartments or something similar that does not have the means to wash their vehicles by hand?
Elderly and disable people?
If the demand wasn't there they would close on their own.....Simple business logic
Can’t ban development. Change ordinance to limit distance between them. Development keeps taxes down.
Here in North Florida it seems a new Dollar store opens up every week.
My city at the other end of the state "bent over backward" in zoning/lotsplit to get another car wash a mile north of another new one . The project will sit next a new hotel. 🤔🤔
Sounds reasonable. They should just stop development.
So selective capitalism, so much for the "free market"
If you think that the United States is truly a free market, think again.
International Car Wash Association
You want to see the small shops come back, remove the zoning regulations that force car dependency. Start with eliminating parking mandates.
Its an awful lot of water consering the areas under droughts.
i never use a car wash. i always wash it myself
What Brookpark doesn't realize is if you put multiple car washes in that means less wait times for potential customers. Pretty simple. Maybe I should run for council.
Yup, cut it off while you can. I noticed the same thing in my city in Massachusetts about a decade ago and it's only gotten progressively worse. The only new things they build in this city are car washes, family dollar stores, laundromats, or a gas station convenience store combo complete with your choice of subway or dunkin donuts. Another big project on our main drag? A huge storage facility. There are so many fun great places to shop and visit here 😐
Storage facilities are out of control for sure. I feel like they are too intermixed among the community and really are eye sores with their massive fences and crappy basic building designs.
And Miami Florida needs many more!! Bring Them.
In our town we have 5 major grocery stores within 5 miles of each other, car washes. Cefco gas stations and storage units galore. Growth is good but ut has to be controlled. You cant let it out run your what your infrastructure can support.
You all can enjoy your scratched up paint after a wash at one of those places. I'll continue doing it myself.
I've been a member of one for about two years and haven't noticed any scratches.
Why not just let the market decide to reduce the amount of carwashes? If there are too many, some will go out of business because there's too much supply. If there's a demand for carwashes, then let business serve the demand
Small town feel in Brook Park?
I laughed at that too. That is a joke in Brook park it is more a cautionary tale of what you don't want your city to turn into and that is far from small town feel.
LOL. He wants it to be like Mayberry.
@@mvlogs1955 better then a chaotic and over developed mess that Brook park is and has been for quite some time.
@@notinamerica_911 true
Obviously there is a market for them. Why else would someone spend thousands on something that won’t work?
I wash all our cars by hand only. These car washes are too rough on painted surfaces. Lack of waxing and rough car washes equals a clear coat that's going to fail. Look around and see for yourselves.
Follow the money