The doors have frameless glass. The 6 series gran coupe still has pillars. Usually pillarless refers to coupes which do not have a B-pillar (ref: 2nd generation Mercedes CLK)
Owned one for 3 years! It was perfect for my long commute and trips across Europe. It was headturner for sure. I now have a Golf R Mk8 for my new job which has a much shorter commute but still miss my 6 series.
So much better looking than the new trash they turn out nowadays at BMW, I guess they're hungry for younger buyers. Another very informative video with great views of the car and journey.
I’ve had my 640d gran coupe 6 years which is a record in my 55 years and in the meantime I’ve been driving plenty of modern BMs and others and they just feel like toys.
I bought used 640d gc last summer. Previous owner had put a M6 bodykit on it (original M-sport tho) with quad pipes and diffussors etc. and it looks truly menacing and beautiful. Also it has adjustable HR springs so it’s slightly lowered. Being x-drive it is really great during winter and I have an app where I can switch it to rwd whenever I want. Stage 2 (400bhp and 800nm) + stage 3 xhp transmission software. Really nice allrounder daily 😂 Really stands out from the crowd! My dream car :)
I have one of these, best car I've ever owned, by far. UK to Italy and back was like a trip to the local shops. Fantastic drive, incredibly comfortable, quick/fast and STILL returning 46mpg on average although only 10 mpg at 150+ on the autobahn. Its going to be very hard to top this.
Another great review. As a 2012 520 touring owner, you can see the similar switch gear on both vehicles. I love the 6 series but can’t get away from the 5 series touring practicality. Still nice though.
The interior is beautiful and it looks very aerodynamic but the original 1980s BMW 6 Series 635 CSi is still a better looking car, never bettered actually.
That's true. I had a 635csi when they were cheap around 15 years ago, and after 2 years of ownership I still looked back every time I walked away from it. Somehow the perfect blend of aggressive and elegant.
Very, very cool car! If i had the money to buy and actually be able to run one of these I'd choose a 5 series instead (I'd LOVE an M5 of literally any age!) though just for its greater practicality.
Never seen one of those, quite like it but, wouldnt fancy the repair cost! Looks so subtle , especially when compred to todays BMW's. Also note it had a tranny you didnt slate, got to be one of the few 😁
I took a 640d coupe for a test drive recently. I was a little surprised how firm it was. But given its going to replace an e46 m3, it was comparatively wafty 😂
Great review as per usual but I just don’t understand these cars…. It’s the 4 door saloon version of the 2 door coupe version of the 4 door saloon version of the 5 series? 🤷🏼♂️😂
@@furiousdriving thank you they are 1, 9 and 17 the seventeen year old would be occasionally,because she is learning to drive so once she’s driving herself she won’t want to be stuck with mum n dad and her little sisters .😂
Kind of agree. Maybe 90s era was even more "solid" in places, but this isnt far behind and is more stylish to me. More modern ones are noticably "thinner" and flimsier feeling, especially the buttons. Cant stand silver colored plastic buttons personally.
Trust me when I say the interior in an F1x BMW is *not great* - It's creaky and doesn't have a particularly high quality feel to start with, the legends wear off the buttons, the vents break if you so much as look at them wrong, the door handles turn into a gloopy mess. Mine only had 86k on it when I got it yet I've had to replace all of those things. Having said that, it's marginally better than the E60 I had before (where all the soft touch plastic was peeling off) so I guess we're going in the right direction? I've not sat in a G30 yet...
@@Azurael Are you from northern part of europe if I may ask? The typical heat, usage and maintenance in the US can really do a number on the cars, it seems. I would think its a lot better in the UK as well, mostly. You will perhaps be surprised to learn that none of things you describe happen to BMWs ran in northern germany or scandinavia, no matter what mileage. No creaks, no button wear, no door handle mess, no vents braking, no nothing of the sort. So, since there arent any issues of that sort, I only commented on how solid the interior feels and the look of it. Seemingly it was the same for the OP. Just curious, did you own the car since new?
@@GoldenCroc I'm in the UK. It's definitely not hot here 😆 the car was 10 years old and had 86,000 miles on it when I got it and I've seen what Cali/Texas cars end up like - mine was definitely not that bad. However, I still wouldn't exactly say BMW interiors from this era are durable…
Very luxurious, very powerful, very complex, very expensive (I imagine), very much "lots to go wrong". If I am dreaming of luxury I always favour Jaguars. Of course, I am English and so probably daft.
w212 E250 2014 has a buttery smooth ride, the BMW has M adaptive drive which is both smooth and very firm. Not many cars can compare with the out right smooth suspension of the Mercedes on any road surface.
Given we only got the auto here, it’d be a great car if your commute was long distance up and down the motorway with big parking spaces at work, like I did with my old job. The road even off the motorway was fairly wide and straight, so when it was clear I was rarely out of top in the Octavia I had at the time, and when traffic was heavy, I wished I had an auto because I’d get cramps in my clutch leg 😂 My commute is much shorter now, so most of my driving now is for fun, so definitely got a manual.
A nice looking and driving car from another German firm trying to capitalize on a reputation and expand to all sorts of price points, but at least not to extent of Mercedes-Benz. Even though this is not your personal vehicle, did you feel compelled to dispense with use of directional signals and general road courtesy whilst taking this out?
A manual was an option in the US? And not here? That is completely the wrong way round, we all know the Yanks are far too lazy to change gear themselves! I'm pretty sure i heard that well over 90% of all cars sold in the US are autos!
They have a big enough market that even if only 1 or 2% of buyers for a performance car want it they can justify the development costs, so BMW have done some great manuals we missed out on
Uch. Could have given it a wipe over inside….that steering wheel covered in specs of god knows what. “Piano black picks up dust”….just clean the thing.
Interesting... I was considering one of these come the fateful day I have to replace my E60, being struck by their looks - but watching this review I've decided I don't want one.
@@GoldenCroc Oh, I'm sure it is - I have a pathological aversion to turbochargers (and diesels if I'm honest) but it's the low windows that give the impression of driving around like you're looking through a letterbox I really hate. When I got my E60 I really disliked that for the same, compared to my E34. This looks even worse. Plus... can you put a towbar on it?
@@HowardLeVert Funny how different opinions can be; I like both turbos and diesels, I have had a lot of them and still do. They work very well for what I do. Dont mind the low windows at all, I dare say I like it? Only the wide A pillars these days I dont like, but it is what it is, cant be helped with current regulations. Not sure if it can take a towbar... Chassis can for sure, its a 5 series after all, but sometimes they dont bother getting them approved for towbars because they think no one cares. Thats a shame, though they might be right. Dont know if you still got the EU regulations for towbar certification in the uk, otherwise it might be easy enough to get it approved? Anyway, I got a factory towbar on my 335d E92 Coupe (equivalent to a 440d nowadays). Towed about 6500lbs a couple of days ago with it actually.
Not sure why you would bother with the four door. I had a ride in the back of one of these a few years ago. It was a pain, quite literally, to get in and out of and very claustrophobic when you were in it. Save some money and get a 5 series. Why pay more and get less? Sorry, I don't get it.
cant fault these boxes as auto goes... Of course if you just have to have a manual, well, then you have to have a manual. Mr furious is very close to the latter category, I should think.
@@GoldenCroc Yeah was just wondering since his new C250d he almost got rid of it just for the box alone and having driven both ZF 8 in the BMWs and the 7/9g tronic I also hate the Merc box and loooove the BMW box.
@@piovo1 Havent driven the merc gearbox, hard to imagine there is that much difference these days... what would you say are the main things that stand out to you as being different/worse?
@@GoldenCroc from standstill the merc box is sluggish and delayed unless your full throttle, BMW box shifts much faster and smoother is more economical for some reason ( I think due to torque converter locking up instant in later gears), BMW box is cheaper to replace with a used one if things do go wrong, never really have that delay when your coming up to a roundabout which you've slowed down for then quickly need to accelerate but the merc was a killer for those situations you would literally be waiting a full second before you started moving and was sometimes dangerous so had to drive in a different manor when with the merc.
@@piovo1 Didnt think it would be that noticable, merc have been making their own auto boxes (and well regarded, generally) for decades upon decades. Goes to show ZF with BMW programming is just on another level I guess. The more you know. Cheers.
Love that design restraint and elegant during Adrian van Hooydonk era...before Domagoy destroy understated elegance , make that kidney grill to humongous pig snouts....to cater Middle Kingdom market....
The Germans cannot bastardise our language. This is not a coupe. The x6 is not a coupe. the x6 is an X5 slopey ass. This is a 5er for people who never have rear passengers who possess a head. Language is very important and we must respect it
@@darthvirago 2000-2010 ish BMWs had some terrible engines in some models. Lots of manufacturers struggled during this period though to be fair. Some engines from that period is ok though, as well as most engines after 2013 or so being pretty good. Keep in mind the cars they show are the cheapest ones for a reason... Often super, super mistreated. Thats what makes for good content. A 6 cylinder BMW is often pretty darn good.
Really? They are a very large, luxurious and heavy car though so there's only so much you can do to hide that. Eventually it'll always come down to physics.
Seems like you werent aware of which car you were driving. No way it handles any worse than any other sedan based GT, which is what it is and should be compared to...
looks like someone sneezed over the steering wheel and controls, nice to see a big indicator control very useful on a bmw not as there going to use it ,we all have to guess where there going next as they haven,t worked out how to use any of the controls or the sat nav if they could afford to have something so trivial to be fitted or hands free phone just a faff ,just cut people up much easier and cheaper
Everything that is wrong with a modern vehicle, digital instruments, a touch screen and controls on the steering wheel including flappy paddles. Not ideal for IT illiterates who like me struggle with a mobile phone. A string of numbers for model designations, whatever happened to good old names, then again BMW have rarely ever done that.
Problem with this and most other Merc & BMW sedans, they are made to be driven by a dwarf, gnome or pygmy not a tall Nordic human, and should you wish to convey anyone other than a child in the rear, there is no space. Yet my 1967 mk10/420G Jaguar height at roof is ACTUALLY LOWER than this 6 series BMW, or the Merc' CLS , however at almost 6 foot 4 inches, I can sit in my vintage Jaguars throne like seats which have NO up/down vertical movement and there is space between the roof lining and my head. Not only that, but with the front seats pushed back to sit two 6 foot 4 inch tall front occupants there is enough legroom in the rear seat to sit THREE 6 foot 4 inch tall persons with PLENTY of STRETCH out legroom and plenty of head room as back seat passengers, not just two "little" people Plus my Jag has rear ducted air conditioning & heating outlets & two opening tables in the back of the front seats. Yet all 3 cars are almost the same size, the Jaguar is 202 inches long, the 6 series BMW 197 inches long and the Merc CLS 196 inches long. However, the 2 German cars have long bonnets that eat space, and boot lids that are as long as the Jaguar's but lower, giving less cabin space and less boot space from similar sized cars. In the Jaguars huge boot is a full-sized spare wheel sitting vertically for easy use, plus remains another 32 cubic feet of gigantic & useable boot space, more than the BMW & Merc added together. AND as an FYI for all those that have never liked nor understood the mk10/420G, as Jaguars premium product to be the base for all the following XJ series of cars, Bill Lyons handed it to his inhouse body genius, aerodynamicist Malcolm Sayer. I met Malcolm as a boy, as he and Norman Dewis, walked me around the Jaguar factory explaining their proud new achievement in 1961, when my mum's new MK10 was being prepared and temporarily registered for a month or so in the UK & Europe before being loaded into a boat & shipped back to home to Mosman in Sydney, Australia. I truly understood what they were telling me as my dad had been an Air Force officer, and had a Cesena of his own to fly, and my mum's dad, Pa was an industrial engineer and my closest buddy, my teacher. Sayer's giant bulbous mk10 was the first motor car EVER deigned to use aeronautic LAMINAR Flow in/on a car hence its unusual fuselage shape, ie tapered dramatically front and rear , very small frontal aspect with its extremely raked forward upper frontal aspect leading to its "hilly" bonnet rising to a shallow and very curved windscreen and similar at rear, plus a "fatpoint" in the middle on the roof and in the middle at the sides, almost like a giant stretched egg shape, coupled with a flat chassis/monocoque underside giving this big 4door car a very very low CD wind drag factor unbeaten until recently by some electric vehicles, giving it enormous stability at speed & terrible crosswinds. Superior aerodynamic theory put into subtle practical effect and use in late 1961. Drive one in blinding rain, then look at it closely after arriving at your destination and look carefully at the paint and try and find much tyre wash & filth, the shape of the car has basically sucked it off the car, leaving it very clean indeed and at speed windscreen wipers are almost not needed, clever scientific understated design from Jaguar in 1961, pure class, a better car than most anyone actually realizes and in so many hidden unknown ways. Back from a time just after WW2 when Britton's had every right to be proud with the creation for example:- the Avro Vulcan, or its "brother" the Hawker Harrier Jump Jet. Move ahead a little to the early 2000's & Jaguars release of their remarkable new all aluminium bodied X350 XJ car range, designed with care & flair, also to be practical in accident repair costs to front & rear panels. Now look back to the 2003 German opposition products, consider their new price as compared to a Jaguar X350 XJ series price. Now in 2023 look at the residual value, check price on a low mileage Merc CL500, compared to a slightly rough XJ and near most XJ's are selling at a higher price, than the CL500 clearly the market is deciding the price on what is REALLY the superior product, and it doesn't matter what country you are in either. Interestingly this 40-year newer Jaguar's height is the same as the Merc CLS or 6 series BMW however as a tall person there isn't an issue in the cabin size of XJ x350 I can fit like a hand in a glove not so in the small, cramped interiors of the German cars.
It is strange how cars can be really rather good in objective terms, yet somehow you just don't get them. In this case, there is still too much Bangle-ness, with its visual weight and the nose (which is still 5000% better than the current designs) is a bit lardy. A real hooter. The total killer for me though is the name. Gran. I *know* what they mean, but It makes me think of lovely elderly ladies discussing ailments. I loved my grans dearly, but one thing they don't make me think of is sporty cars. That sort of thing gets hardwired in to your brain! It also doesn't go with coupé, which is fine because it clearly isn't a coupé but a squished saloon. On balance, I think I'd rather be in the MX-5 just in front of you :)
The doors have frameless glass. The 6 series gran coupe still has pillars. Usually pillarless refers to coupes which do not have a B-pillar (ref: 2nd generation Mercedes CLK)
I was thinking that too. He said pillarless and I was like “but what about the pillar right there!”
Yes like our E31 had no B pillar
Owned one for 3 years! It was perfect for my long commute and trips across Europe. It was headturner for sure. I now have a Golf R Mk8 for my new job which has a much shorter commute but still miss my 6 series.
Yep, that feeling of V6 and elegance was lovely..
V6? What are you talking about mate, bmw has never build a v6 in their history
Straight-6
Drove a 640d convertible with a stage 2 remap 440bhp. It was absolutely incredible, instant power relentless torque and acceleration.
So much better looking than the new trash they turn out nowadays at BMW, I guess they're hungry for younger buyers. Another very informative video with great views of the car and journey.
Not younger buyers, Chinese buyers. They love big pseudo-Rolls-Royce imperialistic overlord grilles.
I’ve had my 640d gran coupe 6 years which is a record in my 55 years and in the meantime I’ve been driving plenty of modern BMs and others and they just feel like toys.
I bought used 640d gc last summer. Previous owner had put a M6 bodykit on it (original M-sport tho) with quad pipes and diffussors etc. and it looks truly menacing and beautiful. Also it has adjustable HR springs so it’s slightly lowered. Being x-drive it is really great during winter and I have an app where I can switch it to rwd whenever I want. Stage 2 (400bhp and 800nm) + stage 3 xhp transmission software. Really nice allrounder daily 😂 Really stands out from the crowd! My dream car :)
I have one of these, best car I've ever owned, by far. UK to Italy and back was like a trip to the local shops. Fantastic drive, incredibly comfortable, quick/fast and STILL returning 46mpg on average although only 10 mpg at 150+ on the autobahn. Its going to be very hard to top this.
Beautiful
Another great review. As a 2012 520 touring owner, you can see the similar switch gear on both vehicles. I love the 6 series but can’t get away from the 5 series touring practicality. Still nice though.
The interior is beautiful and it looks very aerodynamic but the original 1980s BMW 6 Series 635 CSi is still a better looking car, never bettered actually.
That's true. I had a 635csi when they were cheap around 15 years ago, and after 2 years of ownership I still looked back every time I walked away from it. Somehow the perfect blend of aggressive and elegant.
Did u use the tea shelf?
no, as explained in the video!
Very, very cool car! If i had the money to buy and actually be able to run one of these I'd choose a 5 series instead (I'd LOVE an M5 of literally any age!) though just for its greater practicality.
Never seen one of those, quite like it but, wouldnt fancy the repair cost! Looks so subtle , especially when compred to todays BMW's. Also note it had a tranny you didnt slate, got to be one of the few 😁
Its a beautiful looking thing, but not the back handed compliment 'US drivers are lucky enough to be able to choose a manual...'
I took a 640d coupe for a test drive recently. I was a little surprised how firm it was. But given its going to replace an e46 m3, it was comparatively wafty 😂
Great review as per usual but I just don’t understand these cars…. It’s the 4 door saloon version of the 2 door coupe version of the 4 door saloon version of the 5 series? 🤷🏼♂️😂
Looks of a 6 with a bit of practicality from a 5 was their aim I think...
no, it isn't
One of the best modern BMWs , but no match for the original 635CSI .
Hi Matt, it isn't "pillarless" , but it is a nice car!
Yeah he meant "frameless"
Frameless, definitely not Pillar less.
Is it possible to fit three kids in the back of one of these. I know he said strictly two seater in the back but you can clearly see three seatbelts?
if theyre small, theres not much head room
@@furiousdriving thank you they are 1, 9 and 17 the seventeen year old would be occasionally,because she is learning to drive so once she’s driving herself she won’t want to be stuck with mum n dad and her little sisters .😂
I really love the interior of this, I think it's the best version of this era's BMW interiors.
Kind of agree. Maybe 90s era was even more "solid" in places, but this isnt far behind and is more stylish to me. More modern ones are noticably "thinner" and flimsier feeling, especially the buttons. Cant stand silver colored plastic buttons personally.
I like the wood trim better than the silver, looks more up market.
Trust me when I say the interior in an F1x BMW is *not great* - It's creaky and doesn't have a particularly high quality feel to start with, the legends wear off the buttons, the vents break if you so much as look at them wrong, the door handles turn into a gloopy mess. Mine only had 86k on it when I got it yet I've had to replace all of those things.
Having said that, it's marginally better than the E60 I had before (where all the soft touch plastic was peeling off) so I guess we're going in the right direction? I've not sat in a G30 yet...
@@Azurael Are you from northern part of europe if I may ask? The typical heat, usage and maintenance in the US can really do a number on the cars, it seems. I would think its a lot better in the UK as well, mostly.
You will perhaps be surprised to learn that none of things you describe happen to BMWs ran in northern germany or scandinavia, no matter what mileage. No creaks, no button wear, no door handle mess, no vents braking, no nothing of the sort.
So, since there arent any issues of that sort, I only commented on how solid the interior feels and the look of it. Seemingly it was the same for the OP.
Just curious, did you own the car since new?
@@GoldenCroc I'm in the UK. It's definitely not hot here 😆 the car was 10 years old and had 86,000 miles on it when I got it and I've seen what Cali/Texas cars end up like - mine was definitely not that bad. However, I still wouldn't exactly say BMW interiors from this era are durable…
Very luxurious, very powerful, very complex, very expensive (I imagine), very much "lots to go wrong". If I am dreaming of luxury I always favour Jaguars. Of course, I am English and so probably daft.
Lots to go wrong comes with the territory of any high end cars. Unfortunately the JLR cars are extremely unreliable
Does the run flats feel that uncomfortable? How would it feel coming from a 2014 e250 Merc
w212 E250 2014 has a buttery smooth ride, the BMW has M adaptive drive which is both smooth and very firm. Not many cars can compare with the out right smooth suspension of the Mercedes on any road surface.
Given we only got the auto here, it’d be a great car if your commute was long distance up and down the motorway with big parking spaces at work, like I did with my old job. The road even off the motorway was fairly wide and straight, so when it was clear I was rarely out of top in the Octavia I had at the time, and when traffic was heavy, I wished I had an auto because I’d get cramps in my clutch leg 😂
My commute is much shorter now, so most of my driving now is for fun, so definitely got a manual.
Pillarless not, frameless yes.
Holy moly, what a car! "What a blast of the parp" made me smile a lot! Great review Matt.
A nice looking and driving car from another German firm trying to capitalize on a reputation and expand to all sorts of price points, but at least not to extent of Mercedes-Benz. Even though this is not your personal vehicle, did you feel compelled to dispense with use of directional signals and general road courtesy whilst taking this out?
Glass is always like that on back doors so the window can go down due the angle around wheel arch
So the manual was only offered in the country that famously doesn’t like manuals, BMW we’re not planning on selling any manuals really were they.
5:01 honk!
The 6 series model from the first one to know has always been my favourite BMW model
Never liked the regular 6 series but 4 door make me love it
I bet that cost an arm and a leg when new. Will be greatly depreciated now 7 years old and would be a good buy……probably.
A manual was an option in the US? And not here? That is completely the wrong way round, we all know the Yanks are far too lazy to change gear themselves! I'm pretty sure i heard that well over 90% of all cars sold in the US are autos!
They have a big enough market that even if only 1 or 2% of buyers for a performance car want it they can justify the development costs, so BMW have done some great manuals we missed out on
Europeans arent any less lazy, bet on it... They are just poorer, with smaller cars. But I get you were a bit facetious.
The last pretty Beemer! Great video 💪🏻😀
This car is filthy
Uch. Could have given it a wipe over inside….that steering wheel covered in specs of god knows what. “Piano black picks up dust”….just clean the thing.
Germanic build quality at its peak. So solid!
Looking forward to the review
Interesting... I was considering one of these come the fateful day I have to replace my E60, being struck by their looks - but watching this review I've decided I don't want one.
Hmmm I think its pretty good in many areas compared to an E60... This was the E63 successor after all.
@@GoldenCroc Oh, I'm sure it is - I have a pathological aversion to turbochargers (and diesels if I'm honest) but it's the low windows that give the impression of driving around like you're looking through a letterbox I really hate. When I got my E60 I really disliked that for the same, compared to my E34. This looks even worse. Plus... can you put a towbar on it?
@@HowardLeVert Funny how different opinions can be; I like both turbos and diesels, I have had a lot of them and still do. They work very well for what I do.
Dont mind the low windows at all, I dare say I like it? Only the wide A pillars these days I dont like, but it is what it is, cant be helped with current regulations.
Not sure if it can take a towbar... Chassis can for sure, its a 5 series after all, but sometimes they dont bother getting them approved for towbars because they think no one cares. Thats a shame, though they might be right. Dont know if you still got the EU regulations for towbar certification in the uk, otherwise it might be easy enough to get it approved?
Anyway, I got a factory towbar on my 335d E92 Coupe (equivalent to a 440d nowadays). Towed about 6500lbs a couple of days ago with it actually.
Not sure why you would bother with the four door. I had a ride in the back of one of these a few years ago. It was a pain, quite literally, to get in and out of and very claustrophobic when you were in it. Save some money and get a 5 series. Why pay more and get less? Sorry, I don't get it.
Great review Matt! Beautiful car, ultimate GT with a big diesel engine. Love it.
Always thought these were a incredibly handsome car .
Love the interior too .
Lovely car matt
Always found the 2 door coupe a lot more attractive myself
I would find a less dusty one, it’s telling me that the last or current owners are failing to take care of it.
One of the dustiest interiors I have seen, maybe its some pollen and its been sat with windows down?
Just got one of these in estoril blue
Great car and good review, beautiful looking vehicle and the performance seems excellent. Well done on this.
The camera lense on this needed a clean.
Awesome looking BM
Good review but what goes wrong with the 640D ?
I heard the EGR valve and particle filter. Maybe some oil leaks. The engine is mostly very reliable with a good maintenance
Excellent review as always Matt. A pretty looking car.
Very tasteful design unlike today's Bimmers.
How was the box compared to your Mercedes box? I'm guessing night and day difference.
cant fault these boxes as auto goes... Of course if you just have to have a manual, well, then you have to have a manual. Mr furious is very close to the latter category, I should think.
@@GoldenCroc Yeah was just wondering since his new C250d he almost got rid of it just for the box alone and having driven both ZF 8 in the BMWs and the 7/9g tronic I also hate the Merc box and loooove the BMW box.
@@piovo1 Havent driven the merc gearbox, hard to imagine there is that much difference these days... what would you say are the main things that stand out to you as being different/worse?
@@GoldenCroc from standstill the merc box is sluggish and delayed unless your full throttle, BMW box shifts much faster and smoother is more economical for some reason ( I think due to torque converter locking up instant in later gears), BMW box is cheaper to replace with a used one if things do go wrong, never really have that delay when your coming up to a roundabout which you've slowed down for then quickly need to accelerate but the merc was a killer for those situations you would literally be waiting a full second before you started moving and was sometimes dangerous so had to drive in a different manor when with the merc.
@@piovo1 Didnt think it would be that noticable, merc have been making their own auto boxes (and well regarded, generally) for decades upon decades. Goes to show ZF with BMW programming is just on another level I guess. The more you know. Cheers.
Love that design restraint and elegant during Adrian van Hooydonk era...before Domagoy destroy understated elegance , make that kidney grill to humongous pig snouts....to cater Middle Kingdom market....
Nothing drives like a bmw and will never buy anything else
True story, try driving a Porsche Panamera too
Nah, fastback (or a liftback, if it is a 2 box instead of a 3 box configuration). Coupe can only be a 2/3 door car.
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That engine sounds like power! Love the IL6. Great review, Matt.
Interesting, never had aching hands from a steering wheel before.
the only car you'll ever need
Watched the carwow review of the Lucid air before this and I would still have the beemer over that.
Maybe give the interior a dust before it goes up for sale lol
The Germans cannot bastardise our language. This is not a coupe. The x6 is not a coupe. the x6 is an X5 slopey ass. This is a 5er for people who never have rear passengers who possess a head.
Language is very important and we must respect it
It is frameless not pillarless. If it was pillarless the roof would fall down!
It's reaching the age where all the plastic engine parts start to split. Is this one of the dodgy cam belt BMW's
chain, but yes. In a way. Its a bit overblown if you ask me though, provided you follow service and recalls etc.
@@GoldenCroc yea chain of course. I think I've watched Hoovie and Car wizard to many times to put my money into s BMW.
@@darthvirago 2000-2010 ish BMWs had some terrible engines in some models. Lots of manufacturers struggled during this period though to be fair. Some engines from that period is ok though, as well as most engines after 2013 or so being pretty good.
Keep in mind the cars they show are the cheapest ones for a reason... Often super, super mistreated. Thats what makes for good content. A 6 cylinder BMW is often pretty darn good.
Would love to buy this but unfortunately its a 4 seater, needs to be a five seater 🙆🏻♂️
Have you ever driven a CLS?
Who was talking while you were giving commentary? Didn’t they know you were filming?
...and not a myth left from the ghetto.
Horrendous car around a windy road. Had one for 2 years…handles like a ship…great car in a straight line
Really? They are a very large, luxurious and heavy car though so there's only so much you can do to hide that. Eventually it'll always come down to physics.
@@davekennedy6315 True. A Z4 hardtop coupe should handle rather better? 🙂
@@davekennedy6315 yes it’s very long, 5m. Struggled to park without it sticking out of parking bays
@@georgedesouza8937 I'd still very happily drive one. Not that I'd be able to afford the service/repair bills....or fuel haha!
Seems like you werent aware of which car you were driving. No way it handles any worse than any other sedan based GT, which is what it is and should be compared to...
Great video
Maybe give the dash a wipe first next time and wipe the splatter marks of the steering wheel 🤮
If you really want to sell this car it might be a good idea to clean the interior before you do the advertisement! Covered in dust!!
looks like someone sneezed over the steering wheel and controls, nice to see a big indicator control very useful on a bmw not as there going to use it ,we all have to guess where there going next as they haven,t worked out how to use any of the controls or the sat nav if they could afford to have something so trivial to be fitted or hands free phone just a faff ,just cut people up much easier and cheaper
The car looks filthy from inside! Leathers are very dirty and greasy, the dashboard is full of dust! How can you treat the car like S**T!
Who is driving these cars across entire continents? nobody! People who are travelling across continents, jump on easyJet or Ryanair
Why would anyone who can afford this car be bothered about fuel economy??
Just part of the story, less frequent fillups is often cited as a big reason for choosing it.
Everything that is wrong with a modern vehicle, digital instruments, a touch screen and controls on the steering wheel including flappy paddles. Not ideal for IT illiterates who like me struggle with a mobile phone. A string of numbers for model designations, whatever happened to good old names, then again BMW have rarely ever done that.
Not quite as ugly as the previous 15 years' offerings, but still not as elegant as the E38.
BMW nice cars until they break down
Problem with this and most other Merc & BMW sedans, they are made to be driven by a dwarf, gnome or pygmy not a tall Nordic human, and should you wish to convey anyone other than a child in the rear, there is no space. Yet my 1967 mk10/420G Jaguar height at roof is ACTUALLY LOWER than this 6 series BMW, or the Merc' CLS , however at almost 6 foot 4 inches, I can sit in my vintage Jaguars throne like seats which have NO up/down vertical movement and there is space between the roof lining and my head. Not only that, but with the front seats pushed back to sit two 6 foot 4 inch tall front occupants there is enough legroom in the rear seat to sit THREE 6 foot 4 inch tall persons with PLENTY of STRETCH out legroom and plenty of head room as back seat passengers, not just two "little" people Plus my Jag has rear ducted air conditioning & heating outlets & two opening tables in the back of the front seats.
Yet all 3 cars are almost the same size, the Jaguar is 202 inches long, the 6 series BMW 197 inches long and the Merc CLS 196 inches long. However, the 2 German cars have long bonnets that eat space, and boot lids that are as long as the Jaguar's but lower, giving less cabin space and less boot space from similar sized cars. In the Jaguars huge boot is a full-sized spare wheel sitting vertically for easy use, plus remains another 32 cubic feet of gigantic & useable boot space, more than the BMW & Merc added together.
AND as an FYI for all those that have never liked nor understood the mk10/420G, as Jaguars premium product to be the base for all the following XJ series of cars, Bill Lyons handed it to his inhouse body genius, aerodynamicist Malcolm Sayer. I met Malcolm as a boy, as he and Norman Dewis, walked me around the Jaguar factory explaining their proud new achievement in 1961, when my mum's new MK10 was being prepared and temporarily registered for a month or so in the UK & Europe before being loaded into a boat & shipped back to home to Mosman in Sydney, Australia. I truly understood what they were telling me as my dad had been an Air Force officer, and had a Cesena of his own to fly, and my mum's dad, Pa was an industrial engineer and my closest buddy, my teacher.
Sayer's giant bulbous mk10 was the first motor car EVER deigned to use aeronautic LAMINAR Flow in/on a car hence its unusual fuselage shape, ie tapered dramatically front and rear , very small frontal aspect with its extremely raked forward upper frontal aspect leading to its "hilly" bonnet rising to a shallow and very curved windscreen and similar at rear, plus a "fatpoint" in the middle on the roof and in the middle at the sides, almost like a giant stretched egg shape, coupled with a flat chassis/monocoque underside giving this big 4door car a very very low CD wind drag factor unbeaten until recently by some electric vehicles, giving it enormous stability at speed & terrible crosswinds. Superior aerodynamic theory put into subtle practical effect and use in late 1961. Drive one in blinding rain, then look at it closely after arriving at your destination and look carefully at the paint and try and find much tyre wash & filth, the shape of the car has basically sucked it off the car, leaving it very clean indeed and at speed windscreen wipers are almost not needed, clever scientific understated design from Jaguar in 1961, pure class, a better car than most anyone actually realizes and in so many hidden unknown ways. Back from a time just after WW2 when Britton's had every right to be proud with the creation for example:- the Avro Vulcan, or its "brother" the Hawker Harrier Jump Jet.
Move ahead a little to the early 2000's & Jaguars release of their remarkable new all aluminium bodied X350 XJ car range, designed with care & flair, also to be practical in accident repair costs to front & rear panels. Now look back to the 2003 German opposition products, consider their new price as compared to a Jaguar X350 XJ series price. Now in 2023 look at the residual value, check price on a low mileage Merc CL500, compared to a slightly rough XJ and near most XJ's are selling at a higher price, than the CL500 clearly the market is deciding the price on what is REALLY the superior product, and it doesn't matter what country you are in either. Interestingly this 40-year newer Jaguar's height is the same as the Merc CLS or 6 series BMW however as a tall person there isn't an issue in the cabin size of XJ x350 I can fit like a hand in a glove not so in the small, cramped interiors of the German cars.
Jesus.... why didn't you give it a calet before a review
Yipee I'm 2,758th today
meh. BMW have list their way imo
You could have cleaned the car first.
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The car is dirty inside ! You should clean interior before review.
You could of at least cleaned it inside before you reviewed it, its filthy, talk about unprofessional and lazy reviewing!
It is strange how cars can be really rather good in objective terms, yet somehow you just don't get them. In this case, there is still too much Bangle-ness, with its visual weight and the nose (which is still 5000% better than the current designs) is a bit lardy. A real hooter. The total killer for me though is the name. Gran. I *know* what they mean, but It makes me think of lovely elderly ladies discussing ailments. I loved my grans dearly, but one thing they don't make me think of is sporty cars. That sort of thing gets hardwired in to your brain! It also doesn't go with coupé, which is fine because it clearly isn't a coupé but a squished saloon. On balance, I think I'd rather be in the MX-5 just in front of you :)