MCN test: Yamaha R125 takes on Honda CBR125, Aprilia RS125
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- Can Yamaha's all new R125 take on the already strong 125cc class and win?
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I had an rs125 for 2 years, did about 10000 miles on it and never had a problem, you can only go by what you have experienced so I have nothing bad to say about them, excellent bike I wouldent cry if I had to go back to one
My rs 125 2007 model has gone about 8000 km, No porblem with this bike what so ever! stunning, fast and reliable!
i bought an rs aprilia when i passed my test a few years ago. what a bike, for a 125, the handling is fantastic, very light and flickable, and the engine really goes well when kept in the power band, the only downsides are the extreme riding position for a newbie and the lack of reliability. you have to really want an rs to buy over the 4 strokes, but you wont be dissapointed
Honda gets my vote, brilliant little 125, incredibly light, pretty nippy, so cheap on fuel, 100% reliable unlike the Rs125 which i have heard has its ups and downs, one thing i don't like is the cbr tyres if they where a little thicker the bike would be truly amazing hands down.
CBR 4 EVER!!!!!
The rs. Looks the best. Sounds the best. Fastest and appreciates in value.
How on earth did they think the Yamahas breaks were crap the front brake is brutal on those things! I've had mine slowing down from 90+ to a stand still on two ocations hovering the back wheel off the ground
I'm not surprised your back wheel lifted / came of the ground slowing down from 90 mph with the front brake tbh. 90 ?
+Ashley McGovern 200 kit and played with gear ratios ment it could get 95mph in most situations
liljasere 90? I’m assuming you mean kmh
@@liljasere you won't get 95mph out of an r125. Not unless it had different sprockets and a big bore kit lol. They're limited to 87mph lol
Back 12 years ago if you had gone out and bought all these 3 bikes the 4 strokes will be worth scrap money and the rs is worth around £2500/£3000
Hah, true. The size of the tyres is a almost a bit frightening, but as a proud owner of a CBR 125R, I've gotta say that there's nothing wrong performance-wise with the tyres. The front-wheel does like ridiculous, but oh well. It's a perfect bike for starters, I'm 16 now, I'll drive 2 years with it, then I'm moving on to a Kawa Z750 :D
Epic burn, you tell him! Couldn't have said it better myself!
bought my cbr 125r today cant wait to get it in a few weeks
Finland is always expensive as hell, and the basic insurance (the one required for you to drive yours in traffic) for a CBR 125R is normally 650-850. For a RS 125 it's 700-1000. It's insane. I'm glad I got an awesome deal for my CBR 125R, 420 for one year :)
yea that true man i loved the bike just i used it more for getting to college threw traffic and it was horrible for that. just in the case the YZF-R125 was better for me as something for the weekends and something to get to college on at the same time
I just got my yamaha yzf 125, and my friend just got his aprilia rs. Both look great, but the 4stroke sounds so much better. Motorwise of course the aprilia is faster but his motor is already having some difficutlies unlike mine which is going perfectly and been goin up to 121kmh
ofcorse you can compare 2 strokes and 4 strokes, its two different ways of doing something, just like you can compare desmodraulic valves to spring ones or injectors to carbs
Im getting a cbr125 soon, i think they are brilliant bikes especially if you are getting off a 50cc straight onto a 125 like myself.
I looked at getting a brand new YBR125 which was the same price as my CBR and I'm glad I got the CBR. There's nothing wrong with the Yammy as it is just a commuter bike. Its just that outside of commuting, the Honda is much more fun. I wouldn't say its an out an out sports bike, likewise as a commuter. It does make a brilliant alrounder in my eyes. And yes I will get another stroker, when the work improves will look at getting an old skool 250 version of the RG.
yeah I agree. I used to ride an SR50 DiTech and could just about keep up with a CBR125 which is rather apalling
I was coming home on my RS125 today and some guy in a Vectra turbo overtook me and i dropped down a couple gears and managed to get past him
Its at times like these which I feel really glad I got the 2 stroke
and for people calling it a hedge strimmer. You can say that all you like but you'll be the one choking on its fumes =D
The cagiva mito still looks best though imo
Agreed
They already did ages ago, in 2011 they completely redesigned the CBR 125 and made it look like the CBR 250, it looks amazing
Yeah, if you’re drunk. At least it doesn’t pretend to be a super sport bike unlike its competitors. Not including the 2T ones of course.
Better still, have one of each. I've owned a 5yr old CBR125 repsol since last june. Put 10k trouble free miles on it, other than service items its been brilliant. Good ride too, the review is right tho, they do struggle uphill. But then I weigh over 14st so can't expect too much. The two stroke I own is a 25 yr old RG125 and it really is great fun to ride. However I've just had to put it on ebay as my work has dropped off. Not happy!
BTW, I love your reviews MCN, just do them larger please.
yeah it wil be mostly for driving to work.
would you recommend the cbr (4 stroke) then yeah?..thanks for the reply..
I didn't even know these existed! I will say though, I used to watch Valentino Rossi race 125's and do some amazing stuff on them. I'm sure his was a lot faster than these, but they're still cool.
Do you mean the width of the tyres? If so, yes, I agree entirely. I don't own a CBR125 or anything but just speculating, I have to say I wouldn't feel too confident throwing it into corners.
going to pick up my honda cbr up tonight cant freakin wait
he is bang on, with no money its the aprillia...but for the rest of us got to be the yamaha simply due to the wider wheels
Wen is MCN gonne do a video of the new honda 125R 2011?
Thanks, i'll have a look at the Ninja, i didn't even know the did a 250. but that is good news. speaking of 250's do you know if Aprilla will bring out the RS 250? coz they had one before didn't they.
Ive had my Yamaha r125 at 82Mph which isnt bad for a 4T 125, the exhaust on the r125 restricts the bike to 15BHP removing it with the new micron delta for the bike for EG will free up another 8bhp (Yamaha Techs said at a yamaha show) so overall it would be 23Bhp which is very good for a 125 4T altho the RS can go up to 33Bhp but thats a 2T.
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Ive got the yammy r125, most comfortable out of the 3, 2nd fastest, the rs is a dam great 125 but because its 2T engine lets it down, you go flat out 125mph on it everytime you would be lucky to get it going the next morning, rebuilds every 8k kph or so, 2T oil is very dear compared to 4T, 4T is far more reliable and can run all day without overheating and you wont have a problem starting it the next day. RS125 great for racing now and again but crap for everyday use.
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sorry i correct my self there.,...
the 125 aprilia rs is reliable when its putting out less than 15 bhp... any more than that and you have to rebuild every 5000kph and replace the piston and barrels every 250 miles... my mate had 1, it cleared out his 5 grand in his bank, and in the end, he was lucky to get 80mph out of it... just get a cbr 125 or yzf... i havnt been on a yzf, but the cbr 2009 is very nice
True. I'm from Finland, and here, when you turn 16 you can get your license for a 125cc. So over here, the 125's aren't bikes for learners, they're the next step after your moped, and then at the age of 18 you get your 600cc :D. I've got the Honda, awesome bike. (Getting a Devil Full Exhaust System for summer, it's gonna sound amazing :D )
If someone is 16 and never ridden a moped (hair dryer) and decide to ride a 125. That's classed as a learner bike. Lol
Are these race machines? Or can I go on one after doing my CBT? ( I mean SHOULD I) or is it for more race enthusiasts?
jak myślisz czy ta CBR dobra jest bezawaryjna?? jeździłeś na niej. chciałbym uzyskać troche informacji bo chciałem kupić taką
i love Yamaha YZFs i plan on buying one for my first bike, they looks really nice and im rather tall ive sat on one and its perfect for me
YZF is the best if you got a lot of money on your hands i currently own one and im not passing my main motorbike test until im forced to...... i get to work and back so easy and use so little fuel and ignition its honestly great.
aprilia rs will always be king, i have the rs50 now and i love it, cant wait to get the 125 next year! 2 stroke FTW!
Just be cautious when the dreaded cagiva mito appears in your mirror. The rs will have a hard time.
Hi, yes there is a Aprilia RS250 but they stopped making it from 2006. Anyway, I'll give you the prices brand new here in Australia for all 4 bikes. (2006 RS250 $12850AUD), (2008 Kawasaki Ninja205R $6490AUD), (2008 Honda CBR125R $4290AUD), (2008 Aprilia RS125 $9290AUD). All prices are for brand new recommend retail price in Australia in Australian dollars, I'm not too sure about where you live UK, just do som research, but anyway, as you can see RS250 cost more than double than the CBR125R here.
why does only 1 headlight work on nearly all of them? is that the way it is or it is just broken?
i bought the yamaha two days ago! and it's awesome! i don't like very much of the rs and the honda. i can't say how they drive but know the yamaha is slower than the rs but it's confortabler to drive and better in the curves
@ThomasMin1988
no, unless you buy it with the restrictors taken out. and in which case, it will be very fast, to the garage!
No, sadly he hasn't. If he has it's been on TV. We need these bikes in N.America to develop new generation riders.
@Olinolan190 rs 125's come restricted meaning they are learner legal and 2 strokes are reliable it just depends on what way you ride it. i have had my rs for a year now and its never gave me any trouble i run good 2 stroke, warm it up well and rev the complete pish out of it ! the only thing ive had to do is change the plug and gearbox oil. id defiantly recommend 1 because once you pass your test and are looking for a bit of fun all you have to do is restricted it where as the the 4stroke well..
well perfomance wise aprilia wipes the floor with both bikes, topping out at easily 100mph stock
CBR125R is lighter and faster than Yamaha R125.
Honda is cheaper and overall a better choice.
Passenger seating position is a lot more comfortable on CBR125R...Which is important when you are 16 years old and want to impress girls=)
Top speed is better on CBR125R!
heyy thanks mate and yer i was thinking about the yamaha dt aswell, but second hand theyre pretty much the same price. but yerrr good advice
Thanks & im taking my CBT next week =]
honda:D I started with cbr125 and it was perfect...
2,5 - 3,5L fuel /100.... topspeed: 150km/h on dyno.., once I gone with 140km/h but usualy 130
and if its not enough, than buy a 600ccm... Honda the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sure bit expensive, but quality!!!!!!!!
are you from norfolk mate?
ty but i think i will do it from time to time but ill most prob upgrade the bike after i pass since i love the look of the bike and suits my leathers
np. po rozblokowaniu jest dosyć szybka? chodzi mi lepiej przyspiesza?? mi prędkość np 120km/h wystarczy ale żeby miała przyspieszenie do setki tak około 14sekund to by mnie zadowoliło....pozdro dzięki za odpowiedzi ;)
@aseskns Because in some countries, like here in Finland, you get so called "light motorcycle license" when you turn 16 years old, and with that license you are permitted to drive up to 125cc bikes. So driving a 250cc or over is illegal at that point :)
@nrjelley 125, bikes the frames arn't always smaller its usally just the engine size. You can get bigger framed bikes.
oh and the cbr is more comfortable if your tall , i got wrist ache quite quick on the rs125
@joshshoot I didn't say that performance is everything,i always put safety first,next performance and last the look.Aprilia has better brakes,better susp,it's consumption is not really that high cause they make it to get euro 4-5, i don't remember exactly,approval.Look,for me,the right test is to compare only 2 stroke(aprilia rs 125,cagiva mito 125,rieju rs2 etc) and only 4 strokes(cbr 125,yamaha r125,yamaha xt125 etc).A mix of that is not accurate.
We went to a ride with my friend, each of us did 100kms in a day, and his CBR125R 2007, with only 4000km's on it turned off mystically TWICE.
My 2-stroke DT125R worked fine all day.
yeah. i know lol
also, some places dont allow bikes under 250cc, thats a great rule!
tbh i would prefer a 2stroke (even if they do sometimes sound like hairdryers :Plol) so i guess that leaves me with either a yamaha dt or the aprilla rs (i think its the rs) but i prefer the styling of a supermoto nowadays, plus you know what the weathers like in the uk atm, so i could always play around with the wheels i put on on a dt
@RadicakX but the yama runs 40 kilomter on 1 liter, and the aprillia has to stop every 500 meters.
i agree, the 2 strokes are best, more faster than 4 storkes, that's because, the 2 strokes make the cycle in one turn of the piston, the 4 stroke make the cycle on 2 turns, and then the 2 strokes are more difficult to drive because if you have low rpm because you got some gear too high at low speed it has less acceleration than 4 strokes, but exept this problems, the aprilia still the best
The RS 125 is definitely a better bike than the rest of the competition. Just simply derestrict it, and the power jumps up to about 31 rwhp. That is about double more than the 4-strokes! Putting on a full racing exhaust system like Arrow doesn't hurt either!
Sadly that the bikes potential never shows up on tests due to the need of "illegal modifying", at best they mention it briefly.
an aprilia rs 125, it got all on top, performance,accelleration,top speed, komfort, its all in one mc, one of the prittyest bikes in the 125 class
So was the rs125 learner legal ?
to be honest the Yam and Honda aren't really sportsbikes they're commuters. You just have to look at the three of them together to see that you're getting better value for money with the ape. USD forks, radial floating disc with 4 piston caliper, Braided lines as standard!! its just a proper race replica for the road
I agree completely.
nah, that's ducati. besides, the RS125 has a rotax motor in it, and the RS250 has a suzuki motor. know a few people with RS125s, they have no major problems other than the regular (to be expected) 2 stroke top end rebuilds as per service schedule.
cant wait till megelli release theirs
No but seriously, you should hear a CBR with a Devil full system exhaust... it's simply brutal. My mate has one with a devil f.s.e. and goddamn it has a deep and cruel sound. But yes, Scorpion exhausts are incredible, but for 125s... Devil is the best. But of course, this comes down to personal opinions.
very nice they tested the 125class!
But Aprillia rs 125 are the number 1 bike!
@Olinolan190 the cg is a great bike to do the cbt. its light and easy to ride i done mine on a cg125 tho i only got a lend of it off friend. now im on my rs 125. the bike is not hard to fuel if you drive it easy tho it can be expensive if you ride hard (70 - 100) mph or so.. however if you get a run on a crisp rs 125 with good tires on a twisty road u'll fall in love with it !
did he say the yamahas top speed was 78mph? didnt hear ...
and which bikes cheaper the yamaha or the aprilia? thanks
@majkolbb you have to mix 2stroke oil with the fuel, you can buy it in most gas stations.
Most 2 strokes run oil pumps. That's only motocross 2 stroke bikes that you could pre mix. You can still pre mix the rs etc but you had to do away with the oil pump. Still do pre mix on my cagiva. That had an oil pump but didn't last.
i want to see a mcn test review for the derbi gpr 125 4v 09
@jamiethorpe7 And a piston ring change 10 times faster too! Then there's the fact the aprilia's handling is far superior, so on any sort of twisty road it'll be off.
wich one is best for racing?
hey iv had a aprilia RS125 and there good bikes but for around town there horrible bikes so it wernt for me so i bought a new YZF-R125 and i love it wayyyyy better then the aprilia love it
@RadicakX performance is not everything... i agree that they are tottaly different build, but they stay in the same CC class, and the horsepower that come with that class, and this test is mostly about buying your first bike, and as a first bike its looks(your young, you wanna be cool right?) , handling(getting confident with bikes) and the efficiency(more mpg is cheaper, important.) of a bike are important when you get a new/first bike, i would definately go for the yamaha.
@aseskns mby you are able to get a 250cc bike in Greece :) But in UK 125cc is the limit without a proper motorcycle driving license. And btw you can get a 125 two stroke in mint condition for about 1000-1500 eur, just have to look better =)) Had a cagiva raptor 125 before changing to 600cc, still miss it.
@COD88MONEYMAN I think its more of a case of comparing the current 125cc market. Yes of course the aprilia will win hands down in terms of performance. I own one myself and love it. However the 4 strokes are a little more forgiving and from my experience the cbr 125 has a little more low end grunt than the aprilia.
Though for me 2-T wins everytime! Love the smell of 2T oil burning! haha
that's only because the cbr has been around for ages and the r125 is new for this year. IMO, the r125 looks the best out of all 3 of them!
do you have to pre mix the gas for the aprilia, why is it no good for everyday
how fast can this go... would it be good foe highways?
2bh id say aprillia is fairly good for reliability if treated well the only thing against it is the face its a 2 stroke but even then its still a fast big bike with a high top end and can be de-restricted...btw im not a fan boy of any bike 2bh my first choice was the yammy. both the yzf and the aprillia are about the same price second hand and the aprillia has a very high top end for a 125...and it isnt stuck 2 about 13bhp
Just found this video. Ahhhhhh. The 'wonderful' Triangle. lol
C'mon admit it guys...Honda CBR125R is a great bike...for begginers at least!!
I am gonna get this next month! :-)
lads...nsr or cbr 125?..am buying a 125 and thats my choice which is better?..a 4stroke cbr or 2stroke nsr?..please reply..thanks..
APRILIA RS
yeahh good choice... only thing that puts me off that, is the price of a new or 2nd hand 1... lol you can get a 600cc honda or gsxr for that price!!
thats why im swapping my rs50 for a hayabusa and putting a few grand in..
vids comin soon, so add me :)
i lvoed it on my test ride not rode a geared bike before so it was all new to me
Ah, interesting thought. Yes, they absolutely should :)
which on is better? aprilia rs125 , yamaha r1 125 or kawasaki ninja 250r?
I owned a cbr till it got wrote off and now I own the yzf r125...the yzf is by far the best looking but the cbr is the easiest to ride...I've not compared acceleration yet as I'm still running the r125 in but I'd say they are about the same till 40mph after that the r125 is quicker..also the yzf is alot better accelerating up hills as the cbr really struggles. I hope this helps..anyone under 5ft 5 ish the yzf is a no no as its quite tall and the seat is wider, I'm 5ft 6-7 and I struggle .
Hy, about the cbr tyres more little for to knew dawn....exactly or wrong opinion??!!
Anyone know which bike give you more MPG for your money? heard it was the Honda not 100% sure.
My Bro got a Honda NSR and it fast and fair good on fuel even at high revs
@sogr95 race exhaust, bigger carb, jetted, tuned, power valve 2005 model, never broken down in 2 years all for £1000 off ebay :) Tops out at 115mph compared with r125, which is around 75 mph?
@Sk8ate95 you don'r have to mix if they have automatic mixer
These are not the only 125cc bikes. There is for instance the cagima mito sp 525, or the derbi gpr 125 r