Great tip mate I’m as well living and working down south in my case Argentina, I’ve been looking hand my hunting knife i found your straight to the point, not nonsense approach one of the the best online so far, thank you very much again, looking forward to see more videos
Wow I’m late but I’m just glad to be here great tip I’ve tried this one before but I didn’t use plumbers tape so I’ll be giving this one a go fairly soon thanks Keith You da man Toby rock on 🤘
Toby, Fire and Steel no that’s another story lol I used cheap duct tape but it didn’t want to release and I had to put the blade in the vice pull the handle off then hand sand the marks out lol But the vaso is a story that needs beers to get out and maybe a therapist lol 😂
Hey Toby So between the vasaline and Teflon tape....it comes right out filling the void but allowing the tang to be permanently epoxied in the end.....also do you finish sand the stag handle n the blade or off? Also you are the first one I’ve seen even bring up the fact that the inside deteriorates Well done 👍 Thanks
Toby, Fire and Steel mate I’ve not actually used that technique, I’m not that proficient at hidden tang so that tip will definitely come in handy. Cheers M.e.
What about the Vaseline that's going to be on the inside of the dried epoxy before you glue the second part? Is there a way to get that out of there before you do your second gluing?
I use the Teflon tape as well, but I don’t use the Vaseline because I’m afraid the epoxy would not adhere. I’ve never had a problem with removing the blade. If you add a mechanical pin I suppose it doesn’t matter. Either way epoxy does not stick to the Teflon tape.
I heard you can boil the antler and the stuff inside acts like a glue. I have minimal tools and looking for an effective way to do hidden tang/ antler blades. Would this method be effective?
Is there a specific species that make for a better stag handle over another? I'm looking to recondition a few of my father's Eberhard Schaaf Goldhamster knives, that he brought back to The States with him, after being assigned to work in Germany in the late 60's, while working for General Motors Overseas Operations. These knives were always a big pride of his, when he would pull them out for holidays, and Sunday Dinners. Especially, the 14" Carver, and matching fork. Unfortunately, over time, the handles have almost completely broken down to nothing, and the knives just sit in a drawer, unused anymore. As he is into his 90's now, I'd love to put new handles on them, so that he can once again get the joy of carving up the family dinner a few more times, before his days with us are up. He's talked about doing it himself for the last 10 years or so, but at this point, I don't see it happening without one of his son's doing it for him. And with only 2 of us guys remaining, (out of 6 boys), and my brother in failing health, it looks like it's going to be up to me to do. Thanks for any advice you can give me, and I love your show.
Hopefully this helps but Red Deer antlers are some that I see a lot of makers using since its not as porous! If they just need slabs then you could also look at using elk since elk from what I’ve read is more porous
I often wondered that myself but I'm assured they clean them out very well before put the tang in permanently. He is a top maker who's been making for years. Hed know about it if they did come loose over time 👍 thanks heaps for watching mate
How did knife makers, 200 years ago+, accomplish this before tape and epoxy were invented? I've been researching how knife handles were attached to knife tangs before current methods were possible, and I'm finding... well... NOTHING. For example, there are hundreds of examples of Viking knives found by archeologists, but even they don't have a clue how they accomplished this. It's driving me bonkers. I'd like to forge a few reproductions of knives through the ages, using only the methods used by knife makers in their respective eras. But I'm having s*** for luck figuring out how the handjes wete attachef to the tangs orior to modern epoxy drills, rivots, etc., were invented/widely available. Any knowledge/ideas (anyone reading this) how this was accomplished way, waaay back?
Actually it's quite easy. Put your antler in hot water and let it soak for a few hours the hot water will soften the center and allow you to drive the antler over the tang the softened center is sticky and acts like glue when it dries out. Honestly, stabilzed and epoxied handles are better but as you said epoxy was not around back in the day. Also wet rawhide lacing was used at the knife tang junction as a strengthen. As it dried it tightened very firmly. I have used this method many times, stabilizing is very time consuming and not natural. Again, it is not as durable as stabilized, but it is durable enough.
Great tip mate I’m as well living and working down south in my case Argentina, I’ve been looking hand my hunting knife i found your straight to the point, not nonsense approach one of the the best online so far, thank you very much again, looking forward to see more videos
Cheers man. 👊
another hit......keep the tips coming dude....
He's the man full of great tips.
Thank you. What glue do you use for the final glue?
Gflex mate always Gflex unless I'm using G5 lol.
Thank you!
Wow I’m late but I’m just glad to be here great tip I’ve tried this one before but I didn’t use plumbers tape so I’ll be giving this one a go fairly soon thanks Keith
You da man Toby rock on 🤘
So did you just use vaso Scott?
Toby, Fire and Steel no that’s another story lol I used cheap duct tape but it didn’t want to release and I had to put the blade in the vice pull the handle off then hand sand the marks out lol
But the vaso is a story that needs beers to get out and maybe a therapist lol 😂
@@scottmccarroll2618 hahahaha you crazy dude. Sounds like you have a new plan then
Another quality tip, Good stuff unci keif
It feels like #unkykeif week because the man is a fountain on knowledge. Thanks for always watching mate
@@TobyFireandSteel The pleasures all ours.
Awesome stuff! I never would’ve thought of that. Never heard it mentioned 👍🏻
Or was Keith just “taking the pith”?
Sorry... I had to 🤦🏻♂️
Hahahaha your jokes are almost as funny as mine. Great tip hey
Hey Toby
So between the vasaline and Teflon tape....it comes right out filling the void but allowing the tang to be permanently epoxied in the end.....also do you finish sand the stag handle n the blade or off?
Also you are the first one I’ve seen even bring up the fact that the inside deteriorates
Well done 👍
Thanks
Thanks mate. I'll be honest I'm not 100% sure but I think he does sand it off the knife mate.
Thanks Toby, and Keith
Cheers
M.e.
Thanks Malcolm. You like that one mate? Is it one you've used?
Toby, Fire and Steel mate I’ve not actually used that technique, I’m not that proficient at hidden tang so that tip will definitely come in handy.
Cheers
M.e.
thanks fo the tip ...
No problem mate thanks for watching bud
Thanks for this one
No problem at all glad it helped bud 👍
Good tip!!!! Thanks
Yeah it's a good one ey
What about the Vaseline that's going to be on the inside of the dried epoxy before you glue the second part? Is there a way to get that out of there before you do your second gluing?
I use the Teflon tape as well, but I don’t use the Vaseline because I’m afraid the epoxy would not adhere. I’ve never had a problem with removing the blade. If you add a mechanical pin I suppose it doesn’t matter. Either way epoxy does not stick to the Teflon tape.
I heard you can boil the antler and the stuff inside acts like a glue. I have minimal tools and looking for an effective way to do hidden tang/ antler blades. Would this method be effective?
Possible bud
Is there a specific species that make for a better stag handle over another?
I'm looking to recondition a few of my father's Eberhard Schaaf Goldhamster knives, that he brought back to The States with him, after being assigned to work in Germany in the late 60's, while working for General Motors Overseas Operations. These knives were always a big pride of his, when he would pull them out for holidays, and Sunday Dinners. Especially, the 14" Carver, and matching fork.
Unfortunately, over time, the handles have almost completely broken down to nothing, and the knives just sit in a drawer, unused anymore.
As he is into his 90's now, I'd love to put new handles on them, so that he can once again get the joy of carving up the family dinner a few more times, before his days with us are up. He's talked about doing it himself for the last 10 years or so, but at this point, I don't see it happening without one of his son's doing it for him. And with only 2 of us guys remaining, (out of 6 boys), and my brother in failing health, it looks like it's going to be up to me to do.
Thanks for any advice you can give me, and I love your show.
I have heard that sambar is the best.
Hopefully this helps but Red Deer antlers are some that I see a lot of makers using since its not as porous! If they just need slabs then you could also look at using elk since elk from what I’ve read is more porous
Now I can make a handle for a kukri knife
Awesome have fun dude lol🤘
Pretty sure the Vaseline will screw the bond up big time between the 2 stages of epoxy. How long does your handles last before they start rattling?
I often wondered that myself but I'm assured they clean them out very well before put the tang in permanently. He is a top maker who's been making for years. Hed know about it if they did come loose over time 👍 thanks heaps for watching mate
Woodglut plans are amazing!
Ok thanks
@@TobyFireandSteel Glad you love it Toby :) There are many similar projects in Woodglut's plans ;)
Im just make the tang hot and put it in the wood
Ok 👍🏼
How did knife makers, 200 years ago+, accomplish this before tape and epoxy were invented?
I've been researching how knife handles were attached to knife tangs before current methods were possible, and I'm finding... well... NOTHING. For example, there are hundreds of examples of Viking knives found by archeologists, but even they don't have a clue how they accomplished this. It's driving me bonkers.
I'd like to forge a few reproductions of knives through the ages, using only the methods used by knife makers in their respective eras. But I'm having s*** for luck figuring out how the handjes wete attachef to the tangs orior to modern epoxy drills, rivots, etc., were invented/widely available.
Any knowledge/ideas (anyone reading this) how this was accomplished way, waaay back?
Actually it's quite easy. Put your antler in hot water and let it soak for a few hours the hot water will soften the center and allow you to drive the antler over the tang the softened center is sticky and acts like glue when it dries out. Honestly, stabilzed and epoxied handles are better but as you said epoxy was not around back in the day. Also wet rawhide lacing was used at the knife tang junction as a strengthen. As it dried it tightened very firmly. I have used this method many times, stabilizing is very time consuming and not natural. Again, it is not as durable as stabilized, but it is durable enough.