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@@livingintheLight. No. It should be horn for deep bass and high output. There should be more precise calculations for horn cabinet, as i can se for the current cabinet he should use twice bigger speaker or should close one out port.
Tip: if you use kerf cuts to make curves, fill them wit a blend of glue and sawdust. Also use that same blend for biscuit joinery. Bass can make unfilled cavities resonate at harmonics causing barely audible weird notes and buzzing.
Guys, get realistic, he is woodworker without any knowledge or understanding of speaker box design. There is no calculations or design involved. He's got time and makes box to look cool. Even with this concept if he faced that speaker outside and maybe added tweeter, it could sound acceptable for oversized cheap bluetooth speaker!
Still credit him for the mindless 1.2mill views. I came here looking to find a cool sub box for my truck but will keep looking further as this sounds crap
Essentially you've made a double scooped horn which is purely a PA long throw design for mid bass/sub, the problems are these designs are very finicky. The horn needs a very linear increasing throat area your design is all over the place pretty much negating the effects of horn loading. You'd get way better sound from that driver in a basic design like sealed or ported... its not a driver designed for PA work! Are you doing any predesign using software simulation?
Agreed... Also the Short baffles and rigid design (added in all those ribs) does not allow for resonance to emerge from the wood. Big wooden panels only restrained at the edges make a natural resonance amplifier. Been building loudspeaker cabinets for over 40 years. Large resonance chambers make nice sound and you can tune each chamber for the resonance spike that you want. My designs incorporate 3 - 5 resonance chambers depending on application, this design is close to something I might do, but the small baffles and angles would change. It is not necessary to create 45 degree corners to guide the sound waves. That defeats the point of baffle resonance. These designs in the videos are just wave-guides catching the very low frequencies and re-integrating them into the wood, but no resonance is occurring so the sound level at different frequencies will be very unbalanced. The first chamber ( where the speaker face is mounted) needs to be a lot deeper. Put that one 5 inches deeper and will improve a lot. The first resonance chamber is the most important and this one is too shallow. I know lots about natural wood resonance and this ain't it...
@@alldayadventures5418 VERY new to building speaker enclosures. With a build like this (assuming the baffle chamber was more suitable) is there any point in having the splitting ports? Does this simply increase the total port length and change the tuning, or would they normally be made at different lengths to offset the wavelength?(to make the sound smoother). Any info would be greatly appreciated. I intend to re-purpose older unloved speakers into something more usable. Cheers
@@mcgriffith2727 Before Software.... before speaker design Math was even invented... We used our ears. If you take any 2'x 1' piece of wood, and secure it on 2 sides. Tap a small hammer across the board, and listen for the different sounds the wood produces at different distances from the secured holdings. Then secure that same piece of wood on all 4 sides. Listen how it changes and start your design there. Must learn about the wood first. I am about to make a very bold statement here... I no longer use ply-wood for speaker builds. I have never used compressed particle wood...(worse crap) Now I use Pine. Pine has many low frequency resonance points that I like to use. Also keep the design simple. 2 - or 3 large chambers of different shapes and volume will be step 2. Manufactures use compressed wood, because it is cheap, and it sounds cheap too. Flat and struggling. I build the most awesome sub-woffers with 8" drivers. Do not need anything bigger than that. Plus no flappy muddy sound. Placement of the speak in the room is very important. If speaker sits in a corner, or high up on a shelf, or in the middle of the room, all these will affect how your speaker needs to be designed. Lots to this...
if you were to add 1/2 or 12mm thick piece of wood to your miter saw fence your saw blade would cut completely through your stock cleanly without you having to tear the last bit and sand off.
or just lay off the coffee and let the saw do it's job, completely. Or, adjust the fences properly because out of the box the set up is not 100%, as evidenced.
Your skema same with box from indonesia bro, the name is box dragon from brewog audio sound system indonesia, i hope you can take referensi from indonesia skema box sound system..
Oh f... this is like scratching your left ear with your right leg, so much efforts for simple result, cnc, expencsive machinery for what... omg... And design, f... eah!!!!! adorable, fancy i'm gonna come, what a design!!! And sound f.... eaaah, sonus faber totally s...cks yeaaa
While it's an interesting handwork, I don't see much foundation in a micro 1- or 2 liter super vented subwoofer box, coupled with a disproportionately large horn. This box turns out to be a terrible untuned band pass filter (or filters) delivering (forgive me) an akward and limited sound. I recommend you to build speakers based on proven projects/ concepts. There is a lot of information available in the Internet.
@@ВячеславРыбаков-з5р Вы не можете определить тип акустического оформления - тогда вам надо читать и читать. И не меня спрашивать, а Google. И не забывайте про вопросительный знак, как и вообще про грамматику.
@@NewClassic2 Я не понимаю вас. Вы сомневаетесь в чём-то? Тогда спросите прямо: есть ли опыт, или нету, какое место в мироощущении занимают звуки, или что вы хотите спросить или утвердить? Уже по тому как вы утверждаете, что вера в чудо акустического оформления, якобы моя вера, я чувствую что вы где-то плутаете.
It's complete rubbish ! bother to make such an achievement in wood, that is to say a subwoofer for a low quality subwoofer (onkyo ha ha ha!) without any acoustic calculation based on the specificities of the speaker, with a low amp of range planned for the full spectrum, without filter on the speaker ... and end up with two plastic grids which will vibrate, deform and phase shift the waves, and bass reflex vents which bypass everything else. great art in stupidity ...🤣🤣🤣 This is a very great Duning Krueger effect in acoustic....👍👍😜
Nice CNC and woodworking skills but as a bass cabinet I'm afraid it won't be a huge succes. Please keep in mind that with a horn loaded speaker the lower frequency is determinated by the length of the horn opening. So with a guessed opening of less than 60cm/24" it won't do anything lower than 150Hz.
@@zainrei4917 Yes, but it has to be a proper exponential horn. There's also a alternative methode; when you have a pair of them you can extend the frequency an octave down by coupling them.
@@v.scente exponential horns use a phenomenon called impedance transformation to better couple the membrane to the resistance of the air and thus create higher efficiency. But it's one of the most difficult to design loudspeaker enclosures out there.
Fun watching the build. It hurt my soul that you didn’t add any caulk or acoustic adhesive to any of the joints. There is probably much more noise than need be
The making of the cabinet was really satisfying and he's an incredibe craftsman. So far the good. MDF? Nope And slapping in a 30 W (Max) Onkyo speaker which is a mid/bass at best but made for sealed enclosures, maybe ported but certainly not a backloaded horn. A backload horn needs a really big and stiff bass driver. Also the efficiency of these types of speakers are incredibly low so you need to put in a lot of Watts to get some efficiency. If you put a speaker like this in a car for instance, you will no bass at all. Put this driver in a smaller enclosed housing and it will sound much much better. Also the absence of tweeters will make it sound really strange this way.
Unlike ordinary wood, MDF (medium density fiberboard) is temperature stable. As long as he seals it, inside and outside, to prevent any sort of humidity, warping will not happen. He will still want to avoid any incidental spills, of course, but warpage due to seasonal temperature changes are not going to be a problem. In making home furnishings out of a solid wood, especially those with an open grain structure, you will want to use no glue and fasteners that will provide a little play any time you are joining wood at a different orientation in order to prevent cracks and splitting. A table surface should be glued and joined with dowels or biscuits, and sealed after finishing to prevent water damage on the surface.
The MDF would be for density of walls. Not moisture resistance. Also $th order bandpass with a folded horn for port??? Not viable. Vas of speaker looks to be about 10 - 15% of total horn volume at best. Simply put if he thinks it sounds good he's tone deaf.
Me gustó tu proyecto pero creo que se vería mejor sin las mallas protectoras, se vería más imponente, y puedes hacer una prueba tapando las salidas bass reflex creo que mejoraría el sonido. Saludos
You can afford a CNC router... but not the right size blade in your crosscut/mitre saw? Looks like you need the next blade size up. It is very annoying to have to deal with cleaning up your messy cuts every time... The use of a stop block on your mitre saw with a sacrificial fence could also help with this issue, by pushing the end point of your cut out further as well as assist you in making repeat cuts. If you did this modification, you could get by with the undersized blade. Beyond that, looks like a fun build!
espectacular lo que haces,...pero hay detalles que se pueden mejorar en la terminación, por ejemplo, yo biselaría los bordes de la caja (bordes redondeados), esa rejilla verde no cuadra para nada. haces un marco de madera con una tela negra, que encaje donde esta la rejilla. esos tubos de plástico naranja, hay que pegarlos bien por que te van a empezar a vibrar, también puedes intentar alisar sus bordes con calor o puedes comprarte unas trompetas(instrumento musical) de juguete, son muy comunes para fiestas de cumpleaños en jugueterías, y los tornillos hay que hacer algo con esos tornillos...un saludo
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Sorry but that's not MDF, try plywood. I appreciate the effort but it was too much for something that doesn't look great and probably doesn't sound much better in my opinion.
The making of the cabinet was really satisfying and he's an incredibe craftsman. So far the good. MDF? Nope And slapping in a 30 W (Max) Onkyo speaker which is a mid/bass at best but made for sealed enclosures, maybe ported but certainly not a backloaded horn. A backload horn needs a really big and stiff bass driver. Also the efficiency of these types of speakers are incredibly low so you need to put in a lot of Watts to get some efficiency. If you put a speaker like this in a car for instance, you will no bass at all. Put this driver in a smaller enclosed housing and it will sound much much better. Also the absence of tweeters will make it sound really strange this way.
You clearly didn't see him making the cabinet, nor the finished product. There's tool marks everywhere on it, he doesn't clean up his glue, uses the wrong tool for the wrong job, and can't draw a straight line with a straightedge.
It appears to be some kind of bamboo wood. Very thin and fibrous. Pretty crappy wood for a speaker enclosure. He'll do better after his first few dozen builds.
I like the work done, nice control of the CNC. On the other hand the speaker is really nonsense :D I can't believe that this video has so much views, you make video with strange design to attract DIYer but it seems that there is no learning behind.Creating crazy labyrinth is not enought to sounds good. You should create a more classical speaker with better sound and then may be you could modify it to create something original derivated from something which has good sound.
Ist ne tolle kreative Arbeit. Aber der Jlang hat ist nun einmal einfach nicht angenehm. Der Lautsprecher ist eingesperrt. Und so klingt es leider auch. Das sind Konstruktionen welche nur einen bestimmten festgelegten Frequenzbereich in der Lage sind wiederzugeben. Sprich, normalerweise Vorbilder für seht gute Subwoofer und zum Teil auch Hornlautsprecher welche im Mitteltonbereich in aktiven drei Wege Systemen sinnvoll sind. Aber für den Fullrange Bereich einfach ungeeignet. Das Ziel ist es auch beim Selbstbau einen bestmöglichen Klang heraus zu holen. Das ist trotz der großen Mühen und dem verhältnismäßig großen Aufwand der hier betrieben wird, einfach nicht gegeben. Trotzdem sehr kreativ und interessant. Nur schade, daß der klangliche Aspekt physikalisch nicht mit in Betracht gezogen wird. Ansonsten eine super toller Beitrag.
So, assume I know nothing about sound design (which I don't) - but I am a woodworker. Can we use this awesome example and improve upon the design to get an equally stunning visual - with some kicking audio? Anyone want to collaborate? Remember - I KNOW NOTHING about audio.
The sound doesn’t translate through well. But it doesn’t sound like all the effort was worth it. A fine practice run and you have some skill. The idea is nice, but too elaborate. For having a good set of usable tools, it’s strange that you have a CNC, but crappy dull bits. Owning a CNC can’t be cheap. Replace the bit. Adjust your saw and put a good blade on it. That’s cheaper than replacing the saw, which to be honest, should be replaced if you want to make this type of more elaborate woodwork. I’m an electrician. I do some woodwork. I’m a great or at least very good electrician, but my cabinet making skills are not solid. You have some skills but need better tools. My finish trim work wasn’t very consistent until I upgraded to a proper miter saw. I had the same saw you have, or at least the Craftsman equivalent. When I made the hard choice to toss the $200 crappy saw and invest in something higher end, the work instantly improved and literally the job I made the purchase for, paid for the saw several times over! Suddenly my cuts were spot on and clean. Parts fit together and I almost made myself believe I was a good carpenter too! I was a better carpenter. Almost good.
How has nobody mentioned the fact that the title states ''MDF'' and there is no MDF in the build?? Also I see someone is getting a nail clipper for Xmax!!!!🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Oh buddy, you got a lot to learn,lol. that dus not look like MDF to me.? the grills will sadly vibrate and distort the sound. Those base pipes are usesles like that,sorry. I like onkyo ,bud there are better and cheaper ones. Why did you put the electronics right next yo the magnet? Forcing that cnc is just sad to look at ,min.2,or 3 steps. you tried, thats more than most do.
Obudowa labiryntowa. To nie daje jakiegoś super mocnego basu, jak Bass reflex. Ale jest lepsza niż typ compact zamknięty- przy dość małych gabarytach. Więcej tu widowiska i straconego czasu na oglądanie, niż realnego efektu😃 Dodatkowo jest to brzydkie😎
Very cool project and thanks for sharing it. I assume that you know that it is a very hard design to get right, in terms of sub-chamber sizes, angles, ratio’s, expanding radiuses, corner profiling and many more factors. Bose and others went through many acoustical engineering designs and prototypes to get something that didn’t sound bad. However, even when you get the math and resulting basic design “right”, you have to contend with massive phase and other problems due to diffraction, nonlinearities and other issues. BTW, even adding cloth in place of that green plastic will help with some of the mid-highs issues.
I agree with what he's saying, also I'd like to add that with the design you went with the efficiency of the speaker is extremely important because sound has to travel thru the box in such a way that it's not directly reaching your ears like most other loudspeakers would. Basically your box is the speaker. Looking at your box and amplifier, I would recommend one that was possibly larger in diameter or cone height, that doesn't have a very restricted spider, with a low impedance coil and a fairly powerful magnet . Very nice design. I used to build speakers and amplifiers for almost 10 years, and one of the hardest things I had to learn was to balance design with my ability to make all the small details perfect. Sometimes the simplest ones sounded good, however seeing your box I see much potential. If I would change anything from the box itself it would be removing the plastic you used for the port, which may be adding a pitch to the bass that's unpleasant, and like Andrew said using cloth for the larger ports. Wonderful video.
beauty is on the inside with this build......and even that, I don't understand how you can make something that ugly with a CNC router, air leaks all over the place, really quite a shame and I hope nobody follows this example....
Very cool but I don't really get the point of a BT pseudo subwoofer on its own. How would you pair it with higher frequency speakers? Why doesn't it have a low pass filter? Than again, I don't think I've ever seen a crossover circuit in any of this channel's videos. It all seems very interesting from the box design perspective but it all falls apart once random drivers get mounted without any explanation. I would really love to see how the enclosure gets designed, with all the frequency response simulations.
These designs are all ripped straight from either speakerplans or other box sites. Only thing he did is downsize them and make it a "bluetooth speaker" that sounds like shit. This box design is originally for a 15 or 18 i believe. Previously he also made a CB-18 style enclosure that is normally meant for an 18.
Сделал своего рода, лабиринт , кстати весьма большого сечения, и плюс воткнул фазоинверторы, зачем то, вероятно для красоты..., звук получился как из бочки, одно бубнение..., и модуль вроде бы стерео, а динамик один, вообщем фигня звук и реализация...
И какая Длина волны 100 гц ? Если б считали , не городили бы колхоз муравььный ). А так то покупайте качественное , фирменное , там профессионалы занимаются своим делом, лаборатории , образование , штат ...
No le veo sentido tanto trabajo y no poner bajos medio ni voces agudas. El sonido es pésimo. Y elimina esas mallas horribles. Saludos desde centro américa 😉
Какой же придурок. Имеет достаточно точные инструменты, но не может ровно отпилить детали? Зачем втыкать разъёмы если можно припаять на прямую? Покрасил детали и потом на них шкурит? Для чего использовать ламинированную доску если потом всё равно удаляет ламинацию? Столько вопросов без ответов. Ужас.
My mother has a saying when she sees something exceptionally shitty or half assed. She accuses the maker of such products that they have their hands growing out of their ass. This is a perfect example of that.
Фазоинвертор это жесть. Труба сантехническая..... не не слышал!!! И хрень эту зеленую выкинуть, весь вид портит и звук который и без того никакой. Интересно этот чудило рассчитывал короб или по картинкам с интернета собирал и немного фантазии. Неужели он думал что этот рупорный сабик в миниатюре, будет так же долбить в грудак как большой в полном масштабе
Про стерео что-то слышал? Работы много! Всё красиво! Но! Звук🤮 Лучше переделать на 2 канала и желательно на один канал 2-4 динамика разных частот. И будет 👌🏻👍🏻
Чел с не стриженными ногтями, то бишь неопределённого пола изобретает волновой резонатор с китайских деталей, а я дурак собрался делать огромную колонку на автокомпонентах куда входят пара динамиков, сабвуфер, пищалки, 4-х канальный усилитель, автомагнитола, подсветка и блок питания от компьютера.
i dont think horn cabs scale ljke that. ie what is that a 16th? 8th ? not long enough or bigger nufff piles of soz if its a TL speaker but dosnt look like one? k
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Some one needs to tell this kid this box is basically useless a square box and the box this kid made sounds the same ?? Theirs nothing special about his box he prefabed together ??
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There's no bass whatsoever. Incorrect building of horn speaker. Idea is good.
He should have just made it a 3rd order bandpass for all that work
@@livingintheLight. No. It should be horn for deep bass and high output. There should be more precise calculations for horn cabinet, as i can se for the current cabinet he should use twice bigger speaker or should close one out port.
I suppose passive radiators plus force cancelling double woofers are the best combination for highest bass for a given volume of space.
@@dr.python it is not. Horn is much more efficient! Check it with yourself
@@dr.python an example youtube please ?
Tip: if you use kerf cuts to make curves, fill them wit a blend of glue and sawdust. Also use that same blend for biscuit joinery. Bass can make unfilled cavities resonate at harmonics causing barely audible weird notes and buzzing.
Интересно 10% эффективности есть? Или все что играет динамик осталось внутри в виде стоячей волны..
Звуки так-то издаёт, и вч где-то внутри есть😂
Столько трудов, а ради чего???? И не колонка, и не саб!!! Даже на дрова не пойдет....
Теперь я понимаю выражение "Лучшие бы я смотрел полчаса на сварку". Просто кровь из глаз 😖
А ведь кому то такое убожество нравится судя по просмотрам и лайкам(
Guys, get realistic, he is woodworker without any knowledge or understanding of speaker box design. There is no calculations or design involved. He's got time and makes box to look cool. Even with this concept if he faced that speaker outside and maybe added tweeter, it could sound acceptable for oversized cheap bluetooth speaker!
Still credit him for the mindless 1.2mill views. I came here looking to find a cool sub box for my truck but will keep looking further as this sounds crap
Essentially you've made a double scooped horn which is purely a PA long throw design for mid bass/sub, the problems are these designs are very finicky. The horn needs a very linear increasing throat area your design is all over the place pretty much negating the effects of horn loading. You'd get way better sound from that driver in a basic design like sealed or ported... its not a driver designed for PA work!
Are you doing any predesign using software simulation?
Agreed... Also the Short baffles and rigid design (added in all those ribs) does not allow for resonance to emerge from the wood. Big wooden panels only restrained at the edges make a natural resonance amplifier. Been building loudspeaker cabinets for over 40 years. Large resonance chambers make nice sound and you can tune each chamber for the resonance spike that you want. My designs incorporate 3 - 5 resonance chambers depending on application, this design is close to something I might do, but the small baffles and angles would change. It is not necessary to create 45 degree corners to guide the sound waves. That defeats the point of baffle resonance.
These designs in the videos are just wave-guides catching the very low frequencies and re-integrating them into the wood, but no resonance is occurring so the sound level at different frequencies will be very unbalanced.
The first chamber ( where the speaker face is mounted) needs to be a lot deeper. Put that one 5 inches deeper and will improve a lot. The first resonance chamber is the most important and this one is too shallow.
I know lots about natural wood resonance and this ain't it...
What software you use to design subwoofer or speaker box? Is it any free one?
@@lancheloth WinISD for basic modelling
@@alldayadventures5418 VERY new to building speaker enclosures. With a build like this (assuming the baffle chamber was more suitable) is there any point in having the splitting ports? Does this simply increase the total port length and change the tuning, or would they normally be made at different lengths to offset the wavelength?(to make the sound smoother). Any info would be greatly appreciated. I intend to re-purpose older unloved speakers into something more usable. Cheers
@@mcgriffith2727 Before Software.... before speaker design Math was even invented... We used our ears. If you take any 2'x 1' piece of wood, and secure it on 2 sides. Tap a small hammer across the board, and listen for the different sounds the wood produces at different distances from the secured holdings. Then secure that same piece of wood on all 4 sides. Listen how it changes and start your design there. Must learn about the wood first.
I am about to make a very bold statement here... I no longer use ply-wood for speaker builds. I have never used compressed particle wood...(worse crap) Now I use Pine. Pine has many low frequency resonance points that I like to use. Also keep the design simple. 2 - or 3 large chambers of different shapes and volume will be step 2.
Manufactures use compressed wood, because it is cheap, and it sounds cheap too. Flat and struggling.
I build the most awesome sub-woffers with 8" drivers. Do not need anything bigger than that. Plus no flappy muddy sound. Placement of the speak in the room is very important. If speaker sits in a corner, or high up on a shelf, or in the middle of the room, all these will affect how your speaker needs to be designed. Lots to this...
if you were to add 1/2 or 12mm thick piece of wood to your miter saw fence your saw blade would cut completely through your stock cleanly without you having to tear the last bit and sand off.
Thank you
or just lay off the coffee and let the saw do it's job, completely. Or, adjust the fences properly because out of the box the set up is not 100%, as evidenced.
Justable the saw a bit deeper.
And he has a cnc. ?!
You know that us so simple and easy. I reconfigured mine by grinding away the bolt . Wish I had read this first. Thanks
Some rough parts.
Your skema same with box from indonesia bro, the name is box dragon from brewog audio sound system indonesia, i hope you can take referensi from indonesia skema box sound system..
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without sense and understanding. which is processed very uncleanly and sounds like a bucket.
youtube is flooded with such "experts" unfortunately, wasting our time and servers storage place
анти звук. Начнем с того что динамик применен не сабвуферный. И усилитель. К оформлению динамика вообще дикие вопросы.
Oh f... this is like scratching your left ear with your right leg, so much efforts for simple result, cnc, expencsive machinery for what... omg... And design, f... eah!!!!! adorable, fancy i'm gonna come, what a design!!! And sound f.... eaaah, sonus faber totally s...cks yeaaa
While it's an interesting handwork, I don't see much foundation in a micro 1- or 2 liter super vented subwoofer box, coupled with a disproportionately large horn. This box turns out to be a terrible untuned band pass filter (or filters) delivering (forgive me) an akward and limited sound. I recommend you to build speakers based on proven projects/ concepts. There is a lot of information available in the Internet.
Beautiful only inside
Hello
Старый вариант лабиринта для саба , исполнин через ...опу и не пойми для чего .
Thank you
Разве это лабиринт?)) Или вы пишете просто так?
@@ВладимирИльин-о4к а что это. Фазоинвертор, что ли.
@@ВячеславРыбаков-з5р Вы не можете определить тип акустического оформления - тогда вам надо читать и читать. И не меня спрашивать, а Google. И не забывайте про вопросительный знак, как и вообще про грамматику.
@@ВладимирИльин-о4к ты что хочешь буквоедством блеснуть, этот лабиринт я делал в 88 году за долго до интернета.
Use the same box size....seal it.
Don't put any ports.
Very nice building.
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schematic box Draagen brewog blitar
Hahaah bro
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Выглядит так:у меня куча инструментов и станков, но я не умею ими пользоваться и творю фигню
Никогда не понимал тех, кто делает долговременную, достаточно сложную , но никому не нужную работу низкого качества.
)))))) Да х...и тут понимсать, - Ради просмотров. Привьюшки привлекают! Сколько я уже их забанил!).
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@@NewClassic2 Да, вера в чудо акустического оформительского феномена сильна.
Но отрицательный опыт в таком виде очень полезен. Импирика..
@@ВладимирИльин-о4к А зачем вам нужна вера по акустике? Это же касается только слуха! На сколько он критичен, или воспитан.
@@NewClassic2 Я не понимаю вас. Вы сомневаетесь в чём-то? Тогда спросите прямо: есть ли опыт, или нету, какое место в мироощущении занимают звуки, или что вы хотите спросить или утвердить?
Уже по тому как вы утверждаете, что вера в чудо акустического оформления, якобы моя вера, я чувствую что вы где-то плутаете.
It's complete rubbish ! bother to make such an achievement in wood, that is to say a subwoofer for a low quality subwoofer (onkyo ha ha ha!) without any acoustic calculation based on the specificities of the speaker, with a low amp of range planned for the full spectrum, without filter on the speaker ... and end up with two plastic grids which will vibrate, deform and phase shift the waves, and bass reflex vents which bypass everything else. great art in stupidity ...🤣🤣🤣
This is a very great Duning Krueger effect in acoustic....👍👍😜
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чувак страдал не один день и сделал фуфло, с чем его и поздравляем.🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nice CNC and woodworking skills but as a bass cabinet I'm afraid it won't be a huge succes.
Please keep in mind that with a horn loaded speaker the lower frequency is determinated by the length of the horn opening. So with a guessed opening of less than 60cm/24" it won't do anything lower than 150Hz.
so that means a huge final opening of the long throw enclosure can produce lower sound frequency?
@@zainrei4917 Yes, but it has to be a proper exponential horn. There's also a alternative methode; when you have a pair of them you can extend the frequency an octave down by coupling them.
@@michiellombaers3198 How does that work on a physical level?
@@v.scente exponential horns use a phenomenon called impedance transformation to better couple the membrane to the resistance of the air and thus create higher efficiency. But it's one of the most difficult to design loudspeaker enclosures out there.
Fun watching the build. It hurt my soul that you didn’t add any caulk or acoustic adhesive to any of the joints. There is probably much more noise than need be
жуткое качество , как можно обычный усилок использовать как сабвуфер
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Можно.
The only problem that i found is the poor medium/high range, need a small tweeter
Столько труда, не всем известно что акустическая колонка не просто ящик
с динамиками, но ютуб превратил звук в гуано.. :(
В любом случае тут не может быть хорошего звука с 1 динамика.
Это уже извращения 🤣🤣🤣🤣 это хрень сажрет тебе неделю минимум при условии если у тебя есть инструменты 🤣 и руки из задницы
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Столько сил что б сделать бубнелку. Где сч, вч?
Столько сил что б сделать звук и из вёдра😁😁😁
Decent wood working .... Clip those nails though .
this has got to be the crappest built ive ever seen it looks more like a radiator cover than a speaker and it sounds shit dont give upo ya day job
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Congratulations... You managed to buy the worlds first MDF with a grain.
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That’s no MDF that’s multiplex 😅
Hahahha
The making of the cabinet was really satisfying and he's an incredibe craftsman.
So far the good.
MDF? Nope
And slapping in a 30 W (Max) Onkyo speaker which is a mid/bass at best but made for sealed enclosures, maybe ported but certainly not a backloaded horn.
A backload horn needs a really big and stiff bass driver.
Also the efficiency of these types of speakers are incredibly low so you need to put in a lot of Watts to get some efficiency. If you put a speaker like this in a car for instance, you will no bass at all.
Put this driver in a smaller enclosed housing and it will sound much much better. Also the absence of tweeters will make it sound really strange this way.
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Very beautiful created craft box
Unlike ordinary wood, MDF (medium density fiberboard) is temperature stable. As long as he seals it, inside and outside, to prevent any sort of humidity, warping will not happen. He will still want to avoid any incidental spills, of course, but warpage due to seasonal temperature changes are not going to be a problem.
In making home furnishings out of a solid wood, especially those with an open grain structure, you will want to use no glue and fasteners that will provide a little play any time you are joining wood at a different orientation in order to prevent cracks and splitting. A table surface should be glued and joined with dowels or biscuits, and sealed after finishing to prevent water damage on the surface.
The MDF would be for density of walls. Not moisture resistance. Also $th order bandpass with a folded horn for port??? Not viable. Vas of speaker looks to be about 10 - 15% of total horn volume at best. Simply put if he thinks it sounds good he's tone deaf.
@@jimspence0 You can actually tell from the video how this thing sounds. Not great.
Что то пошло не так...
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No good
Disappointing 😭😭😭
I love you
A cor ficou uma merda.
Pqp, acabou com o projeto
Hi hi
Gỗ Này Là Gỗ Ghép Cao su Ép Vâng Hai Mặc, Đâu phải Mdf[Giấy ép lại gọi là mdf]
Me gustó tu proyecto pero creo que se vería mejor sin las mallas protectoras, se vería más imponente, y puedes hacer una prueba tapando las salidas bass reflex creo que mejoraría el sonido.
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secara teknis persis box naga punya brewog audio indonesia
Box dragon maksudnya? Yang ada di Megatron Brewog Audio kan?
Ini mah box N Max, asli Manado
You can afford a CNC router... but not the right size blade in your crosscut/mitre saw? Looks like you need the next blade size up. It is very annoying to have to deal with cleaning up your messy cuts every time...
The use of a stop block on your mitre saw with a sacrificial fence could also help with this issue, by pushing the end point of your cut out further as well as assist you in making repeat cuts. If you did this modification, you could get by with the undersized blade.
Beyond that, looks like a fun build!
O interior da caixa ficou tão bonito que merecia uma tampa de acrílico 👍
The craftsman does not explain the components required for their speakers. Incomplete video... Bad
@@vulcano911 he sells the plans
аполло и титанат на миималках, кто знает тот поймет
10% distortion, terrible speaker.
Получился бабушкин патифон
habia empezado bien el man
Çalışma güzel ama bas kabini olmuş.. Tiz ses yani Tweeter olmadan olmaz.. Yinede eline sağlık...
too much work, not good sound, Just portable $100 Sony or JBL will sound 10 times better, less spcae and better looking
Am I the only one that noticed that that's not MDF?
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espectacular lo que haces,...pero hay detalles que se pueden mejorar en la terminación, por ejemplo, yo biselaría los bordes de la caja (bordes redondeados), esa rejilla verde no cuadra para nada. haces un marco de madera con una tela negra, que encaje donde esta la rejilla. esos tubos de plástico naranja, hay que pegarlos bien por que te van a empezar a vibrar, también puedes intentar alisar sus bordes con calor o puedes comprarte unas trompetas(instrumento musical) de juguete, son muy comunes para fiestas de cumpleaños en jugueterías, y los tornillos hay que hacer algo con esos tornillos...un saludo
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Лайк за ролик и за извращение ,на мой взгляд можно сделать всё проще ,пердеть будет так же ,а то и лучше, ну и оборудование хорошее,приятно смотреть)))))
Sorry but that's not MDF, try plywood. I appreciate the effort but it was too much for something that doesn't look great and probably doesn't sound much better in my opinion.
Crap. Looks ans sounds awful.
Solder nya sama
The making of the cabinet was really satisfying and he's an incredibe craftsman.
So far the good.
MDF? Nope
And slapping in a 30 W (Max) Onkyo speaker which is a mid/bass at best but made for sealed enclosures, maybe ported but certainly not a backloaded horn.
A backload horn needs a really big and stiff bass driver.
Also the efficiency of these types of speakers are incredibly low so you need to put in a lot of Watts to get some efficiency. If you put a speaker like this in a car for instance, you will no bass at all.
Put this driver in a smaller enclosed housing and it will sound much much better. Also the absence of tweeters will make it sound really strange this way.
You clearly didn't see him making the cabinet, nor the finished product. There's tool marks everywhere on it, he doesn't clean up his glue, uses the wrong tool for the wrong job, and can't draw a straight line with a straightedge.
@@DerekWilsonProgrammer agree, it's awfull, and hideous as well, really strange build
complete and utter shi**e
It appears to be some kind of bamboo wood. Very thin and fibrous. Pretty crappy wood for a speaker enclosure. He'll do better after his first few dozen builds.
I like the work done, nice control of the CNC. On the other hand the speaker is really nonsense :D
I can't believe that this video has so much views, you make video with strange design to attract DIYer but it seems that there is no learning behind.Creating crazy labyrinth is not enought to sounds good.
You should create a more classical speaker with better sound and then may be you could modify it to create something original derivated from something which has good sound.
Ist ne tolle kreative Arbeit.
Aber der Jlang hat ist nun einmal einfach nicht angenehm. Der Lautsprecher ist eingesperrt. Und so klingt es leider auch. Das sind Konstruktionen welche nur einen bestimmten festgelegten Frequenzbereich in der Lage sind wiederzugeben. Sprich, normalerweise Vorbilder für seht gute Subwoofer und zum Teil auch Hornlautsprecher welche im Mitteltonbereich in aktiven drei Wege Systemen sinnvoll sind. Aber für den Fullrange Bereich einfach ungeeignet. Das Ziel ist es auch beim Selbstbau einen bestmöglichen Klang heraus zu holen. Das ist trotz der großen Mühen und dem verhältnismäßig großen Aufwand der hier betrieben wird, einfach nicht gegeben. Trotzdem sehr kreativ und interessant. Nur schade, daß der klangliche Aspekt physikalisch nicht mit in Betracht gezogen wird. Ansonsten eine super toller Beitrag.
Muchos cajón para poca bocina
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So, assume I know nothing about sound design (which I don't) - but I am a woodworker. Can we use this awesome example and improve upon the design to get an equally stunning visual - with some kicking audio? Anyone want to collaborate? Remember - I KNOW NOTHING about audio.
with that thumbnail, the way it looks, if the first thing you blast isn't DOOM Eternal BFG Division I'm gonna be so very disappointed
The sound doesn’t translate through well.
But it doesn’t sound like all the effort was worth it.
A fine practice run and you have some skill. The idea is nice, but too elaborate.
For having a good set of usable tools, it’s strange that you have a CNC, but crappy dull bits. Owning a CNC can’t be cheap. Replace the bit.
Adjust your saw and put a good blade on it.
That’s cheaper than replacing the saw, which to be honest, should be replaced if you want to make this type of more elaborate woodwork.
I’m an electrician. I do some woodwork. I’m a great or at least very good electrician, but my cabinet making skills are not solid. You have some skills but need better tools.
My finish trim work wasn’t very consistent until I upgraded to a proper miter saw.
I had the same saw you have, or at least the Craftsman equivalent.
When I made the hard choice to toss the $200 crappy saw and invest in something higher end, the work instantly improved and literally the job I made the purchase for, paid for the saw several times over!
Suddenly my cuts were spot on and clean. Parts fit together and I almost made myself believe I was a good carpenter too!
I was a better carpenter. Almost good.
Finishing not good😏😏😏😏
из говна конфетку не сделаешь
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I want a new Box for my old hometheater could you plz make a new for me am pay for you work 🙏
How has nobody mentioned the fact that the title states ''MDF'' and there is no MDF in the build?? Also I see someone is getting a nail clipper for Xmax!!!!🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
For best result and crossover or equalizer to ur box for bass and sealed those 2 holes .. believe me ur gonna love itq
Oh buddy, you got a lot to learn,lol.
that dus not look like MDF to me.?
the grills will sadly vibrate and distort the sound.
Those base pipes are usesles like that,sorry.
I like onkyo ,bud there are better and cheaper ones.
Why did you put the electronics right next yo the magnet?
Forcing that cnc is just sad to look at ,min.2,or 3 steps.
you tried, thats more than most do.
Obudowa labiryntowa. To nie daje jakiegoś super mocnego basu, jak Bass reflex. Ale jest lepsza niż typ compact zamknięty- przy dość małych gabarytach. Więcej tu widowiska i straconego czasu na oglądanie, niż realnego efektu😃
Dodatkowo jest to brzydkie😎
Haha. Cnc. But no money for reflex cannel. Use pvc pipe. And the grill would be vibrate by bass. You have no bass. OMG.😂😂😂
Труда было вложено много, но результат оказался плачевным - звук, как из бочки, да ещё и с большими искажениями.
Решётки поменяй на материю, выкинь порнографические оранжевые трубки, оставь просто отверстия.
CNC SKILLS ARE GOOD- But not a bass box by any means, And need to work on finish work a bit more. Oh and ps man cut your nails man.
Very cool project and thanks for sharing it. I assume that you know that it is a very hard design to get right, in terms of sub-chamber sizes, angles, ratio’s, expanding radiuses, corner profiling and many more factors. Bose and others went through many acoustical engineering designs and prototypes to get something that didn’t sound bad. However, even when you get the math and resulting basic design “right”, you have to contend with massive phase and other problems due to diffraction, nonlinearities and other issues.
BTW, even adding cloth in place of that green plastic will help with some of the mid-highs issues.
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I agree with what he's saying, also I'd like to add that with the design you went with the efficiency of the speaker is extremely important because sound has to travel thru the box in such a way that it's not directly reaching your ears like most other loudspeakers would. Basically your box is the speaker. Looking at your box and amplifier, I would recommend one that was possibly larger in diameter or cone height, that doesn't have a very restricted spider, with a low impedance coil and a fairly powerful magnet . Very nice design. I used to build speakers and amplifiers for almost 10 years, and one of the hardest things I had to learn was to balance design with my ability to make all the small details perfect. Sometimes the simplest ones sounded good, however seeing your box I see much potential. If I would change anything from the box itself it would be removing the plastic you used for the port, which may be adding a pitch to the bass that's unpleasant, and like Andrew said using cloth for the larger ports. Wonderful video.
I'm pretty sure this project is just a show-off and no effort in calculating the case or selecting an appropriate driver has gone into this.
Where are the frq response measurements?
Olha o interior ficou bom, mas o exterior ficou bem ruim. Ficou feio. Kkk mas dá pra consertar
Бредятина. Имея такой станок, лучше бы кораблик модельный сделал, если в акустике не шаришь.
Internal design Amazing..Outside wasn't so good.
Look nice, but you chose the wrong amplifier...you better put in one 2.1 amp and in back of that green masks put 2 full range speakers for mid and hi.
Dude adjust your saw! There is a depth stop that is keeping the blade from cutting all the way down. See that nub you're sanding off of every cut.
Should invest in higher sound quality, recording is very bad. Same with previous videos. Try a subwoofer that captures the entire midlow range
beauty is on the inside with this build......and even that, I don't understand how you can make something that ugly with a CNC router, air leaks all over the place, really quite a shame and I hope nobody follows this example....
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Very cool but I don't really get the point of a BT pseudo subwoofer on its own. How would you pair it with higher frequency speakers? Why doesn't it have a low pass filter? Than again, I don't think I've ever seen a crossover circuit in any of this channel's videos. It all seems very interesting from the box design perspective but it all falls apart once random drivers get mounted without any explanation. I would really love to see how the enclosure gets designed, with all the frequency response simulations.
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These designs are all ripped straight from either speakerplans or other box sites. Only thing he did is downsize them and make it a "bluetooth speaker" that sounds like shit. This box design is originally for a 15 or 18 i believe. Previously he also made a CB-18 style enclosure that is normally meant for an 18.
@@GravitySandwich ok now it all makes sense 😂👍
that kind of box is just an acoustical bandpass filter (4th order slope (24dB/oct)) for the bass
(like "mufflers" in air ducts for noise control )
@@pedrova8058 it's actually a 6th order.
I got as far as you using a CNC router to cut out a square and being unable to fully cut through timber with he mitre saw before leaving.
Сделал своего рода, лабиринт , кстати весьма большого сечения, и плюс воткнул фазоинверторы, зачем то, вероятно для красоты..., звук получился как из бочки, одно бубнение..., и модуль вроде бы стерео, а динамик один, вообщем фигня звук и реализация...
Number 1. Not bad at all 👍
Number 2. If you’re a dude, cut those fingernails.
Number 3. If you are female ignore number 2.
И какая Длина волны 100 гц ? Если б считали , не городили бы колхоз муравььный ). А так то покупайте качественное , фирменное , там профессионалы занимаются своим делом, лаборатории , образование , штат ...
No le veo sentido tanto trabajo y no poner bajos medio ni voces agudas. El sonido es pésimo. Y elimina esas mallas horribles. Saludos desde centro américa 😉
Какой же придурок. Имеет достаточно точные инструменты, но не может ровно отпилить детали? Зачем втыкать разъёмы если можно припаять на прямую? Покрасил детали и потом на них шкурит? Для чего использовать ламинированную доску если потом всё равно удаляет ламинацию? Столько вопросов без ответов. Ужас.
For demonstration, it is desirable to use guitar music. For example Gabriela9797.
My mother has a saying when she sees something exceptionally shitty or half assed. She accuses the maker of such products that they have their hands growing out of their ass. This is a perfect example of that.
не стоило так натруждаться... звук приглушен и подавлен. и чего стоило ожидать.. высокие пропущены через фазоинвертор..
Фазоинвертор это жесть. Труба сантехническая..... не не слышал!!! И хрень эту зеленую выкинуть, весь вид портит и звук который и без того никакой. Интересно этот чудило рассчитывал короб или по картинкам с интернета собирал и немного фантазии. Неужели он думал что этот рупорный сабик в миниатюре, будет так же долбить в грудак как большой в полном масштабе
Про стерео что-то слышал? Работы много! Всё красиво! Но! Звук🤮 Лучше переделать на 2 канала и желательно на один канал 2-4 динамика разных частот. И будет 👌🏻👍🏻
Чел с не стриженными ногтями, то бишь неопределённого пола изобретает волновой резонатор с китайских деталей, а я дурак собрался делать огромную колонку на автокомпонентах куда входят пара динамиков, сабвуфер, пищалки, 4-х канальный усилитель, автомагнитола, подсветка и блок питания от компьютера.
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i dont think horn cabs scale ljke that. ie what is that a 16th? 8th ? not long enough or bigger nufff
piles of soz if its a TL speaker but dosnt look like one? k
Mucho material lo que los sistemas de sonido actuales buscan es que sean más pequeños y livianos no un cajón que sea un dolor de cabeza transportarlo una otra solo te faltó pintarte tus hunitas María por dios
Very nice, but for that box you will need powerful driver. What you use for speaker driver is small i guess and it sounded hollow
So I just lost 24 minutes of my life watching him make a crappy sub box that don’t even sound good
Also, you are using WAY too much glue. You could use 1/4 and it would be more effective. Also less dry time.
Some one needs to tell this kid this box is basically useless a square box and the box this kid made sounds the same ?? Theirs nothing special about his box he prefabed together ??