IMAX Enhanced vs Dolby Atmos vs DTS:X | Surround Sound Showdown!! Jumanji The Next Level
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- Опубліковано 14 чер 2024
- **X3500H DOES NOT SUPPORT IE** Summit Tickets - technodad.biz/HFS Today I give you my findings as I compare IMAX Enhanced to Dolby Atmos and DTS:X using Jumanji The Next Level 4K Blu-Ray. Check out the video to see what the differences are. Buy Denon AVRs from Value Electronics - technodad.biz/DNVE
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0:00 - Start/Intro
1:35 - IMAX Enhanced Basics
1:55 - Testing Parameters
3:16 - Scene Breakdown
4:03 - My Observations
7:35 - DTS:X vs Atmos
8:39 - Measurements
12:12 - How to get IMAX Enhanced
13:41 - Outro
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Under the condition of -10 decibels dB, Imax successfully asked my neighbor to ring the doorbell, but Atmos did not. Good Job
Techno Dad
Thanks for taking the time to do this. This is pretty much exactly what I experienced comparing Atmos to IMAX Enhanced. The bass difference is very obvious.
My pioneer elite vsx lx504 is imax enhanced and I like the imax enhanced a lot. Your video was awesome. I’ve been wanting to compare the formats myself but I didn’t think about streaming to get the atmos track. I love the measurements taken for each track. Well done.
Hi Techno Dad, may I know what's the audio bitrate of Atmos that you compared with IE and DTSX? If not mistaken, streaming service offer much lower bitrate compared to physical media. Does this lower audio birate cause any softer or weaker performance? I'm not sure, hope to learn more information from your sharing. Thanks.
Listening to a streaming Dolby atmos vs listening to the same track on dolby atmos from the physical disc always seem more dynamic on my physical discs! Really difficult to be able to compare every kind of tracks from different sources! Either Apple TV 4K vs Netflix (in app tv from lg) or even roku and other plugin sticks have different sound coming out of my slim 7.2 marantz receiver! Everything is plugged in in 5.1.2 setup! But any way I’m listening it’s always amazing to have atmos/ Dts x! Wish I could demo IMAX enhanced!
Love the comparison with Rew! Thanks for the great video. IMAX enhanced is something I'll get one day!
Love your content, man.
Thank you for watching!!
So nice to have direct comparisons with some measurements.
Thanks!
I need to learn how to use REW. I had issues setting getting it running. So I gave up. I know I should do it. Thanks for the reminder 👍
The Denon X3400H firmware 2.1 e/arc is imex inchanced?
First, is there a way to know what the original movie was coded in? I know some studios just convert DTSX to atmos
Good video I know that I am not crazy when I think i hear more of the height channels with atmos than dtsx. One theory I have is that with dtsx the main event is the object based decoding. Dtsx actually doesn't require height channels to be activated where as dolby reverts back to channel based decoding when the heights are deactivated. The Dtsx is easier to hone in on the sound source where as atmos seems more smeared together. But then again I am using bouncy house upfiring speakers so that could be a factor but dtsx and atmos do sound really different.
Great topic. Thanks for the comparison
Thanks for watching!
Great job man ... nice comparison.... thanks
Thanks for watching!!
Always preferred DTS to Dolby; DTS sounds louder and more rumble but above all somehow center channel sounds better. I wish DTS:X was more in movies but Atmos currently ruling the world, at least in the home cinema.
Also it seems there are barely any movies right now with proper IMAX Enhanced, meaning correct aspect ratio and DTS:X audio track, both are important as that completes the IMAX Enhanced.
Can you give your thoughts on this again on your 7.1.4 system now that we found the Atmos discrepancy.
Great job! Thanks for providing the time stamps. I'll go try this out myself. I'm curious about the 37 minute mark with the birds.
I finished my comparison and spot on with techno dad. I turned off the amp powering the bed layer and watched them again with only heights. IMAX enhanced for the win!
What IMAX Enhanced settings did you use on your AVR? Did you leave on Auto or did you set a I.E. crossover for all of your speakers?
I left it on Auto.
Such a great tune as the background music!
Would love a video on how you too REW measurements from the movie.
What annoys me is the amount of 4k dvds that don’t feature Dolby Atmos , to my ears Dolby Atmos esp the height element through my Monitor Audio in ceiling speakers sounds better than the DTS-X .
depends on how and who mixes them, really.
blahman1able - yea it’s most likely down to Dolby Atmos being an issue with buying a license from Dolby and then paying etc etc - or something- it’s probably cheaper to do it in DTS-X - but I find the later seems to want to create height via my 5 traditional speakers - almost like a modified surround sound where as with Atmos my two unveiling Monitor Audio ct-265 IDC absolutely sing - helicoptering or raining sounds etc just sound better .
Same.
I hate the fact some 4K Ultra HD Blu ray disc aren't Dolby Atmos or DTS X.
@@RobertK1993 completely agree - in most cases unless it’s a marquee film I won’t purchase it in 4k if there isn’t an atmos coded sound track
Hi what's your opinion of the Yamaha y5600 please
I think we need the bitrate of the stream vs the disc, just for comparison.
Yup
Im confused. For ages I'm being told by the vidrophiles and audiophiles that we need to calibrate our screens and speakers to get the picture and sound that the director intended, and here we have Technodad checking out different sound formats that sound different. So which one is the one that the director intended it to be? So if technodadrefers the imax enhanced because it has more bass isn't he breaking that cardinal rule?
You are not understanding that the movie has been encoded in Atmos on Vudu and encoded in dts:x with IMAX enhanced. He's not upmixing but playing the audio natively as encoded. We don't get movies in dts:x and Atmos on the same physical disc.
Is imax enhanced worth the upgrade? My onkyo receiver already supports dts x and atmos.
If more movies release in IE, then, maybe yes.
Hey TechnoDad, I have a new Denon avrx4700 that I setup in my 5.1.4 theater. I have it setup in Auro layout with front and rear heights because I prefer Auro3D upmixing to Atmos. I'm using a Roku Ultra 4K for streaming content and it passes through the audio.The upmixers for Auro3D, Neural and Atmos work great, but the IMAX enhanced option does not show up in the menu when I play an IMAX enhanced movie from Disney Plus for example. Does IMAX enhanced not work with streaming devices like Roku? Is there a setting I need to modify? Thank you.
Hi! IMAX Enhanced audio will only be found on 4K discs, that’s the issue. You’ll need to get Bad Boys for Life or Jumanji The Next Level to get IMAX Enhanced audio.
@@TechnoDad thank you for the quick reply man!
My q950a show DTS:X in Imax enchanced content. Is that correct?
Well, IE is delivered through DTS:X. What AVR do you have?
Techno dad loves your videos. But which AV Receiver is the best IMAX Enhance.
Either the Denon or Marantz
IMAX Enhanced is not a Codec it is a disc mastering system for movies shot in the IMAX Format to compare them together is a misnomer
I have a 4k tv that doesn’t support Dolby vision and Dolby Atmos but if I buy an Apple TV 4K can I get Dolby Atmos from the Apple TV 4K just for my surround sound system ?coz I don’t need Dolby vision I have hdr10 which is enough for me...so I wanted to know if I could just get total Dolby Atmos sound from the Apple TV 4K though my tv doesn’t support it...since the HDMI 2.0 cable from Apple TV 4K will connect to my a/v receiver or sound system then it will go to the tv
Yes, Apple TV 4K into AVR into TV. That’s how you should route it.
Techno Dad Thanks for the information sir🙏👍🏼 You’re awesome..I was very confused and needed to know this so much.
Interesting topic... Loved it..
Thanks for watching!
@@TechnoDad where to buy original Atmos and dts demo discs? Not available with Amazon and flipkart. Still searching for it.
Hey Techno Dad, i have Denon x6500h home amp, i couldnt do the audessey calibration due to my amp being setup in a cage in garage away from lounge and run an optical cable from LG Oled C8 to amp. So i have the following questions please:
1. Klipsch Speaker with atmos, 9 speaker setup
2. My output setting from TV is set to internal speaker and optical
3. Input sources into Oled are-
a) PS4 HDR Pro
b) Apple TV 4K
c) Xbox 360
d) Amazon TV
When viewing my denon amp and check info it only states PCM 48mhz for sound(refer to screenshot)
Wanted to no why its not showing atmos/dolbyX when audio is being output? What is best way to calibrate the audessey mic, as cable is to short and need to source extension of about 20/30m to run it to amp from centre?
Thanks
Will Ps4 pro be okay to play imax enhanced content via bluray discs as I havnt found content on apple tv/ prime/netflix etc to test it?
Hi Dale! For Audyssey calibration, a standard headphone extension cable should work. Also, you won’t get Atmos from optical, it will have to be from HDMI.
Techno Dad Thanks, i manage to get 2/3 15m extensions female to male, found it myself these installers totally useless and now considering moving amp back into lounge or proper cat6 converter end to end, (suggested by someone) you reckon that can resolve the atmos dilemma? Will run from LG oled C8 arc port to Amp arc in and leave Ps4Pro and Apple tv 4k directly into TV 🤔
Dale Hair. If you haven't found your solution yet this may help.
Plug whatever you playing the movie through the amp and not the back of the TV. So, tv source where it suggests and then ps4 in the back of AVR. This could be the issue you are having. I went through the same issue with Denon 67000h and the roku that has Atmos. The only way I could get it to display correctly was directly through the amp and setting the Roku to pass through plus I selected Dolby formate. Took forever and plenty of research but finally!!
Also, playing Netflix, Disney plus HBO Max all through roku and not through the TV apps. Hipe this helps.
‘‘Tis easy to focus on specs and charts and loose sight of the experience. Which is why we all go through these troubles to create the best system we can wthin our budget.
How can you select Between DTS X and IMAX Enhance on Jumanji the Next level? Some Sound engineers aren’t good at their job.
Perhaps they will get better with time? Maybe the studio used the cheapest sound engineers they could find. and to be fair the whole thing is kinda new
Lonewolf that goes for all audio formats. Atmos & DTS X have been out for sometime already and even then, not all sound engineers can get it right. Idk who the hell Disney hires for there films bc they are always low dB.
In general I think surrounds should be for ambience and make the soundstage big. They should not be distracting. Sure if a chopper IS over your head it should be sound there. But should blend in with everything and be noticable except for when you turn them off then you should notice a big difference. IMHO.
But you can reduce the levels of the surrounds, you could use bipole or dipole speakers for less direct sound. You can position them above headheight or angle them slightly past the listener. There are about 50 things yoy could do to make surround speakers less direct and distracting. But a non discrete mis ruins the surround for everyone.
That is a terrible idea.
I don't have 11 speakers and 2 subwoofers so I can have ambience.
You could have a 5.1 mix with a bunch of reverb in the mix or even added as an eq effect or just use dipole speakers mounted above ear height to get a bunch of reverb and ambience.
Discrete mixes are for discrete sound. You could slap -4db on all surround and ceiling channels and bam, not distracting. I don't think they should cripple the mixes.
That's only taste. For example, I like to feel like I'm inside the action, not like The Watcher from Marvel watching from another dimension.
@@MisterRhul I agree. But also I think it depends somewhat on the movie. I like being really immersed if I watch some Marvel movie but watching a drama or thriller I am good with being "the watcher". 😊
@@dalechalfont112 Yeah I get what you mean. Maybe using the word "ambience" was a little too much of a simplification from my side. Sure I want the sourrounds/Atmos to be active but I don't think they should stand out if the makes sense. But as with everything with sound it's a matter of taste and what your goal is with it there is no right or wrong as long as you are satisfied.👍
? So I was watching Jurassic world fallen kingdom 4k dts x and two of my enabled Dolby Atmos doesn’t work but the other height channel work so I have 5.1.2 instead 5.1.4
It would be dope to have a dedicated sub for every channel except heights and run all speakers full range hahaha
Lol!! Yes, that’s a great idea!!
Video sounds great.
I would say that you looking up just when the characters in the film are is pretty damn immersive! But, opinions vary.
That’s a good point!
Bad Boys For Life UHD have Imax Enhanced audio track. Have you tested it out?
No, but I just ordered it!!!
Techno Dad Bad Boys for Life was also a great movie! 😁
IMAX Enhanced is working with DTS:X
So they listen so resemblance.
Just to be clear there's no 4 k disc content w IMAX enhanced built in so you have to stream it in somehow.
Not true. Two IMAX discs have IE and so does Bad Boys For Life. More 4K discs with IE are coming. There’s also a 4K Demo disc for IE.
@@TechnoDad appreciate the info.!
This movie is encoded in dts:x on 4k and dts hd on blu ray. How did u get to play it in atmos? Did u mean Dolby surround up mixer
He used VUDU
@@avtechman77 so if you don't have a 4k tv then you can't watch the 4k version thus not get imax enhanced?
@@OxCart78 IE on Fandango Now is only available on Certified Sony TV'S for now. Hopefully they open it up to Nvidia Shield since it's a very powerful streaming device and it's Android based just like Sony TVs
Wow… I just watched Spider-Man No way Home on Imax Enhanced and it’s hard to go back… that DTS soundtrack is 🔥
DTS X suits my needs fine ❤
Channa, love your videos. Have you ever considered doing a video with Shane "Spare Change"? Shane does not seem to be a fan of IMAX Enhanced. I think that it would be a very interesting debate.
Hi! Yes, I’ve done a few videos with Shane - ua-cam.com/video/tSgcaXHBShQ/v-deo.html
@@TechnoDad Channa, I can't believe that I missed that video! Thanks for sharing.
Hey Techno Dad!
Can you do a video of mixing and matching speakers? The pros and the cons especially if they were from different brands and different setups.
Yep, Atmos always seems to be yelling in my home theater. Dolby haven't been exactly gentle with their implementation. DTS on the other hand (haven't tried a imax enhanced) is far better at immersing the viewers. I honestly think that Dolby will fix this.
Indeed. Even plain dolby is louder.
Have all 3 on denon 6500h personally like in this order.
Dolby atmos
IMAX enhanced
Dts
All klipsch reference speakers. And by the way the lg cx is amazing love to see a review from you.
Hi Untouchable! I have the E9 and I probably will not be getting mother OLED this year, unless it’s a 77”. Which means it will probably be las year’s model.
If I stream the exact same movie on Amazon Prime and Netflix, the Netflix mix is 3db louder every time. Comparing a Blu-Ray to a streaming movie and drawing conclusions is nuts.
12:21 this is incorrect. The Denon X3500h does not have IMAX enhanced.
Whoops! You’re right!
@@TechnoDad I was so excited after hearing this and as soon as I went home from work, I upgraded the firmware on my denon 3500 only to know that the imax enhanced is not there.
My bad, I confused it with the X3600H
Streaming audio vs disc is really not close at all but good video
Yeah, that’s all there is though
Pioneer Elite now has IMAX Enhanced
I'd say if height channel is important to you, stick to Atmos. For instance, if you watch a lot of action movies, with lots of flying things and you don't think it's a distraction, stick to Atmos. It's really interesting because I've switched to Atmos almost as soon as it came out, and I've been enjoying it since then. It feels like something is missing if I go back to the 'normal' sound, even for playing a concert, it's that much more enjoyable with the addition of the height channels. In terms of the low rumble or the high high, they almost don't apply to my situation as my living space/entertainment room is the same room, it isn't an ideal or dedicated enough setup. It's making sense of the situation and getting the best from the layout I have. I also have neighbors to worry about! 😂 I can't be blasting my system all the time or they will complain. Ideally in a perfect world, I certainly would love to have a more dedicated home theater. I believe the majority of people out there are in the same situation. It's great the technology is out there and we have choices. But always chasing after the latest tech or number crunching wouldn't necessarily be in proportion to the resulting enjoyment. It's important to know the pros and cons and understand what's the best possible outcome given the limitation.
One thing to consider is the ATV4K usually outputs at a much lower volume. You should level match the output between your Blu-ray player and the ATV with an SPL meter to have a fair comparison. Between this fact and the fact you are comparing a lossy Atmos stream to a lossless DTSX/IMAX Enhanced Track I am not surprised you did not prefer the Atmos mix.
Even though they weren’t level matched (I tried but there wasn’t any way to get a good “average” level during the scene as the scene was so dynamic). I couldn’t play pink noise to level match as there’s no way for me to do that with the ATV4K. Anyway, even though they weren’t level matched, Atmos height channels were MUCH louder than the other two. Any thoughts?
If you use your Xbox One X to play the disc you could level match the ATV4K with it by using a pink noise track on the UA-cam app of both devices ua-cam.com/video/WJ9Go1PnAVA/v-deo.html. There could still be a discrepancy but I would bet it would get you close. As far as the heights in the Atmos track sounding too loud I don’t really have an explanation. Maybe check to make sure the trims for the heights on both of the inputs in your AVR match? I don’t own a Denon (yet) but I know some AVRs can have different volume settings saved on different inputs so maybe that would explain the difference you are hearing.
One other suggestion would be to use the Xbox to playback the Atmos track via the Vudu app as well as using it to play the disc. That would eliminate any other potential discrepancy assuming the Vudu app outputs at the same volume as the disc drive in the Xbox.
The Onkyo RZ840 is IMAX Enhanced, Channa. I still prefer IE/DTS X over Atmos but ALL are good in their own way. It's the punchier bass in IE/DTS X that wins me over, although my neighbours don't seem to appreciate it as much as I do ;) lmao
Lol! Thanks for sharing Ian!
The sound engineer will mix how he thinks it should sound with his specific equipment in his recording studio, which might not be the same setup and room you have. If the bass is lower in Atmos then use the bass control and raise it 3dB to equal the other formats bass kevel. Or just increase the subwoofer level. If Atmos over the head content are too pronounced, then lower the volume level on those top speakers. Most AVR's can do individual speaker level adjustments. If the other formats have too subtle over head content then increase the top speakers level. The sound level controls are there to be adjusted to what sounds the best to your own ears. Denon has 4 memories to store different setups of speaker levels to be used with different sounding content to suit your preference of best audio quality. There should at least be bass and treble controls as a minimum on every AVR and preferably also top speaker level adjustments.
Hey TD got a question. I have the Denon x4500H. Do I need a media player that also supports imax enhanced?
Hi Eric! Just a 4K disc that has IE and of course, a 4K Blu Ray player.
I played Jumanji: Next Level on my Xbox One X and I didn't have any problem playing IMAX on my Denon x4500H.
I don't have a 4K tv so I didn't know if that disc would still work.
The audio will still work if you don't have a 4k tv it will just downscale it to 1080p
Hi Channa! This is like compere the VHS, VIDIO 2000, BETA MAX back in the days! Ho whas the winner? VHS! And in this case it’s already clear that Dolby Atmos is the winner!
Thanks for THIS - I was hoping somebody would do this comparison (not me 😉) good job!! I’m beginning to move away from discrete speakers and towards high end sound bars because it’s just easier to set up. Yes, call me LAZY!
this is the saddest story I've ever heard... "high end soundbars" will never touch a discrete setup with equal budget.
No problem man. I totally get it. I have to swap out speakers again and I’m not happy that lol!
I've had 5 receivers since 2000 for home theater.
Dislike: onkyo back in 2000-2010 (has 5.1) runs hot which killed the HDMI output.
Like: Denon 1912 (has 5.1) since 2010 runs warm
Love: Denon AVR-X3700H (5. 2 independent sub outputs .4 atmos; Has atmos dts:x Imax) and Denon AVR-S760H (5. 2 identical sub outputs .2 atmos;
Has atmos dts:x) since 2021 runs warm.
I love streaming Spotify from my iPhone to Denon HEOS receivers and the 7 Denon HEOS standalone speakers around my house simultaneously for a party!
Nice! Thank you for sharing your experience. The X3700H is a fantastic AVR.
Lossless vs lossy audio comparison? Blurays sound much better than vudu streaming. Low end compression maybe?
Possibly, but the Atmos height channels being Louder means the gap between lossless and lossy is closer than we think.
Thought about that too: Vudu dynamic range is definitely compressed compared to equivalent discs.
My Sony str za1100es is IMAX enhanced.
I have a Yamaha RX-V683 with Dolby Atmos and DTS-X am i going to update for a little more Bass, Am i Fuuuck This yamaha gives me what i desire, if i want to listen to IMAX Enhanced ill go to the cinema.
Hope do you account for the fact that the Atmos track is going to be significantly more compressed than the other two because of being steamed? This is obviously going to affect sound quality.
Yes sir. I think the most interesting thing was the Atmos height channels are louder than the other two, even though the other two were on disc.
X4500h for me ill give it try....i do have a turtle documentary that is imax enhanced and it does has its moments
Nice! Let me know hoe it goes!
Great analysis!
My personal experience (with access to only one IMAX Enhanced movie) is that IME was just OK. IMAX enhanced felt more full but Atmos felt more detailed. This could be due to how IME sets the crossovers in the Denon/Marantz.
Overall all, I need to try more content than just Jumanji before I make a final verdict. So far, not impressed.
Scratch that. Just watched some scenes from Bad Boys 4 Life. That IMAX Enhanced mix sounds FANTASTIC! 🔥🔥🔥
Color me impressed.
Lol! I haven’t watched it yet. It’s sitting here on the coffee table. But we already saw the movie, so I might just got through the action scenes by myself to check out the IE mix.
Techno Dad LOL Same! I purchased it when it first came out, seen it twice in the theaters so was planning to wait and watch it with peeps that haven’t seen it before.
After reading in your comment section that it had a IMAX Enhanced track, I ripped that thing open so quick. :) Picture quality is immaculate as well!
I got a system that supports these codecs
According to Audioholics, IMAX Enhanced does not route to the subwoofer, so I am thinking this is why the bass on IMAX Enhanced is more pronounced. Here is their video here: ua-cam.com/video/aYZG-Jw4bqo/v-deo.html
As for me, with my ATMOS enabled 9.2.4 Shockwafe, i get so much bass that I literally feel it through the house, and I never have to go beyond volume 30, which is not even one third the volume, Perhaps, I am lucky with the room acoustics.
IMAX Enhance is like a code that’s formatted on the disc that allows it to overwrite your AVr calibration settings. I just purchased the Pioneer SC-LX904 and on the setting you can adjust limitations for IMAX Enhance. I’m not sure if other brands offer you to limit IMAX Enhance futures, but I know Pioneer allows you to. It’s good to know your speaker limitations, so that you can adjust the settings bc IMAX Enhance will boost your speaker levels. The last thing you want is blown speakers.
Louis Dorato in your typical theaters IMAX does not route to the LFE because there speaker are full range. However, IMAX Enhance at home does and will route to the LFE. Read my message below this one.
You know , I just purchased this Marantz SR5013 and I already had an Onkyo HT-R693. If I had it to do over I would not have bought the Marantz. I have tried to convince myself it was better. It has preouts which is the only reason I wanted another avr. The Marantz remote operations do not hold a candle to the Onkyo's. If I had never had the Onkyo it would be different because I would not know but I do and its eating me up. The Onkyo has dolby atmos and supposedly the Marantz does to but you could not prove it by mine. The Onkyo worked flawlessly in every way. Next step for me is to sell my marantz because I am very dissappointed in it. I only paid $250 for the Onkyo and it is a far better receiver in my opinion than the Marantz.
Hello Randy, does the Onkyo sound more immersive than the Marantz?
I would have to say definately. The atmos was perfect. I was very happy with the way the Onkyo sounded. It was 95 watts per channel 2 driven and the Marantz is 100. No difference in volume. 5 watts is not enough to notice a difference. The Marantz sounds good but it does not sound as good as the Onkyo. That may possibly be because something is not right and that may be with my setup. I went by the guided setup just like the Onkyo has so I do not know why. The audussy is definately than Onkyo's but that is no help with the problems I'm having. Which is no video control with the marantz remote at all. I have 1 hdmi going from arc on tv to monitor1 arc on marantz. I have another hdmi from blueray to #3 port on avr labeled blueray. Can not understand why no video operation with remote. I don't know if there is something on my tv I need to change. It is set to CEC. That's all I got and I'm very frustrated at spending the money that I really had no business spending to begin with. I now have 2 receivers and need to either figure out what the deal is with the marantz or sell it and never buy marantz again.There is no reason the setup should be so difficult that most people can never enjoy the functions of their avr. Who knows how to use every single aspect of their avr on new ones. At least the remote should switch back and forth from tv to any other input. Mine does not.
Try using the input selector on your TV remote to switch back and forth.
Atmos is louder but DTS X is more accurate
I definitely agree that Atmos is louder, especially in the height channels, and I think DTS:X has more bass.
Review DTS X pro...
As soon as the new AVRs are released
Dts x pro is just dts x with the object channel limit changed to 6 speakers. All currect dts:x sources will make use of them as it is so I imagine the review would be something like this:
'It's like dts:x, but with 2 more object channels'
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Thanks for ur response
Great comparison Channa. Joe the REW master to the rescue!
Thank you Mike!
Isnt imax enhanced just DTS X?
It’s delivered on DTS:X
@@TechnoDad like their own variant of DTS X?
Like the reviews, only watch movies from disc.
Right on, thanks!
Cool video! too bad I think Imax Enhanced is kind of fading.
I've noticed many steamed Atmos movies roll of at 30ish hz. They are mastered for soundbars with tiny subs.
Visit avs forum and set up beq. That will take care of that problem
Go into the amps app and mute the speakers 😁
Would be great to see how Auro3D measures up. Titles to test would be Blade Runner 2049, Jumanji, Spiderman Homecoming. At least against Atmos.
I can’t wait for more movies to come out
Sorry, I thought you'd have the scenes as an example so we could listen for ourselves. My mistake.
No matter how I would have recorded the audio, with one mic or 7, UA-cam will spit out a stereo signal, so telling the difference would be very difficult.
Sup Techno Dad, check Fandango now app on any Sony TV the app supports IMAX enhanced. Link you vudu account to Fandango app and now alot of your movies you own will get updated to IMAX enhanced for free. Not all movies but some. I recently purchased Top Gun 4k and the disc shipped with Dolby vision/Atmos, but the digital code gives you IMAX enhanced/IMAX dts-x on Fandango now app. Atm alot of Sony movies support IMAX enhanced even old movies like Venom and Into the Spiderverse.
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pull your music volume down its really full on and its hard to focus on what info youre putting out there.
Will do next time!
Keep the volume as it is. It is not high at all.
@@zukaka84 yep its not high at all and it sounds great .
Those blackheads though.....
The problem with all the Movies being made today is that we are at the mercy of the sound engineer. It is all a crapshoot!
This is VERY true!
IMAX enhanced &DTS X is winning
Atmos is all over the place and in so many TVs and streaming devices though...
I own a lot of 4k blu rays and I doubt I even have 5 dts x ones. Dts MA won blu ray but atmos is dominating this round.
Look at the dts x instagram page. Every movie they advertise is a terrible comedy or some kids movie...they used to be the kings of actions movies. Now they have jumanji....
You forgot auro 3d
Probably because they don’t make Jumanji in AURO-3D
@@Youthman hey youthman I'm a fan of your channel great content. You and channa both do your thang. In regards to jumanji in auro 3d it indeed is on bluray in native auro 3d. I own a copy. I had to order it from Russia. I got inferno as well in native auro 3d. Too me auro sounds phenomenal in these movies.
Yeah I know the only movie theaters have auro3d like regal and cinema mark .
@@jonathanb3886 Thanks man. I stand corrected. I didn't realize it was in AURO-3D as well.
Well that was the first one he is talking about the sequel but most of these movies are in auro they are under rpx for regal and xd from cinemark
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Can't stand home or theatrical object based audio. Personally, I think it's nothing but a stupid gimmick. And it's a shell of what it's supposed to be as truly implemented in a theater in the home environment FWIW. To me It's just louder like a wall of noise from all over. Even at the theater though I saw 1917 in Atmos and was not impressed at all. And I like loud, but this was wayyy too loud, like well in excess of 100dB for most of the movie, it was just painful. It was mostly just overly loud with a wall of noise coming from all over with no precise localization of sound whatsoever, there was no meaning or purpose to it and the auditorium rattled as a result from loosened insulation from the rumbling. The screen channels were totally overwhelmed and the L/R channels also sounded like they were spreading half way up to the sides making it sound very odd and unnatural sounding. That was at a "flagship" Dolby Cinema AMC. Late last year I saw Midway at the same AMC in their "standard" theater which was presented in DS 7.1, the theatrical TrueHD 7.1 equivalent and it was miles better in precise imaging with natural surround enhancement when it called for it that matched the on screen action. I was totally immersed into the film. Yet with 1917 the theatrical atmos sound overpowered the film completely. And mind you the speakers in the standard AMC theater were total garbage but you could tell the mix was awesome. I bought Midway on UHD BD and the THD 7.1 bedtrack was just like what I heard at the theater but better on my 7.1 HT. Now I haven't heard DTS:X but I'd imagine it's the same junk given DTS just follows whatever Dolby does like a good lap dog that they usually are. But in fairness to DTS I will admit whatever they do copy from Dolby they tend to improve upon quite a bit, case in point DCA and DTS-ES compared to DD and DD EX back in the day. I do think TrueHD beats DTS-HD though, shame BD largely ditched THD 5.1 for DTS-HD 5.1 but I'd imagine Dolbys licensing greed had a big part in this. Just that for me there was nothing wrong with and still is nothing wrong with Lossless channel based audio. I bet most mid level HT users still rock their excellent 5.1 or 3.1 systems and the mainstream market is watching on these 2 and 3 channel soundbars now with fake Atmos and fake surround. Object based or even discrete does nothing a good Lossless LPCM 2.0 DS mix won't do for the mainstream soundbar users anyway lol. I have always been a firm believer that more channels doesn't automatically mean better. I think a really good channel based mix is still great. And all these new object based only focused pre-pros and receivers have been stripped of all the wonderful DSP options and listening modes optimized for music, older matrix 4 channel encoded movies, standard stereo or even old Mono stuff. There was a proper mode for everything, now Dolby consolidated everything into some awful generic DS upmixer which is such a stupid name also given the continued use of the original DS format on 2 channel transmission limited platforms like YT to this day or when chromecasting an HBO/Showtime show from their app to your TV! So I agree with one of the comments here that modern day big budget surround mixing is starting to get overzealous, it should be strictly ambience, special effects, a big scene, flyover etc. What's happening now is all these channels are competing with the 3 most important channels which is the screen array during a large portion of these movies and the mainstream has complained about harder and harder to hear dialogue as a result. Part of that is also exacerbated by the fact that movies sound best on fully loaded horn speakers which have unmatched dynamic capability, efficiency, lack of distortion and dialog clarity. While the mass market products use box and cone dynamic type speakers with soft dome tweeters at home unless you buy can afford or have room space for JBL Synthesis or Klipsch Heritage/Professional horns which have clarity and dynamic range that cone and woofer box speakers can't dream of matching on movies. I will say that coaxial designs like KEF or Tannoy come very close and are a great alternative to horns, they are certainly better than soft dome tweeters for dialog. Anyway, yeah I think OBA sucks big time. I'm not leaving 7.1 anytime soon.
Ya imax really shook my place it was same output at a public cinema
Very little difference but Dolby Atmos has more content.
There's definitely more Atmos content!
@@TechnoDad But why is that DTS X detects more objects
Jumanji: The Next Level to me sounded terrible. The audio was downright weak and I had to crank the subs to get any meaningful bass response while it's predecessor, Jumanji: Welcome To The Jungle nearly shook our room apart. Dolby Atmos all day.
Come on techno dad it’s called variances of mixing , you can not compare full stop. Unless the 2 audio tracks were generated by the same source mix you are wasting everybody’s time. Can you guarantee the source is the same…
That’s all we have currently. Even though the Atmos track is compressed, the height channels were a lot louder than the DTS:X and IE tracks. Pretty interesting...
Your comments below are no joke. Putting aside your money making links , let's guy into the video. This versus that versus that and all we got was Atmos had a forward sounding height channel and IMAX enhanced had more bass. Wouldn't it have been more enlightening to talk about how this modes are mixed . DTS has always been mixed with more base than Dolby, how is IMAX mixed versus DTS. What is it the Mixer trying to show us with his frequency mixes. Let's not make a video with just subjective thoughts, tell us what went it to the different formats and how it may appeal to your audience.
Why have all of that just to use Apple TV?! Garbage
This "IMAX Enhanced" CRAP is ALL about AUDIO ONLY & Nothing regarding the picture FORMAT. Sure it's in 4K. You can get 4K anywhere to purchase on most streaming services. This IMAX Enhanced DOES NOT show movies in the original IMAX Theater picture aspect ratio of 1.43:1. The movies purchased such as Spiderman, Alpha, Life, etc. are still all shown in 2:35:1 widescreen. This is NOT the IMAX Theater format aspect ratio. So I feel totally ripped off on this bullcrap "Imax Enhanced" baloney. IMAX & FandangoNow are basically LYING to customers in regards to the PICTURE ASPECT RATIO. FALSE ADVERTISING 100%! THIS IMAX ENHANCED BULLCRAP IS ALL ONLY ABOUT AUDIO ASPECTS OF IMAX AND NOT THE ORIGINAL IMAX PICTURE SIZE. Shameful. And I have a SOny XBR that the movies are suppose to work on and have downloaded the stupid worthless Privilege app that has NO MOVIE to purchase anymore and has only previews on that app now. So this is all bullcrap when it comes to any "IMAX Enhanced" picture FORMAT (as they advertise & show in their previews). THE MOVIES ARE NOT SHOWN IN THE IMAX THEATER ASPECT RATIO OF 1.43:1. BUYER BEWARE!
IMAX Enhanced is crap! It messes your original bass management and room EQ settings like changing your crossover to 70Hz. It's nothing more than a new gear/media certification scam like THX was... If you have it - disable it!
Same technology different name the company Dolby only won't new money is no something new 😬🤐 🙊🙉🙈