Spyderco Shaman: Is this the best Spyderco?

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  • Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
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  • @just_nate_8694
    @just_nate_8694 Рік тому +10

    MC did you a solid ...as your donation did him! Congrats on the sub jump. Looking forward to all content.

  • @ericsierra-franco7802
    @ericsierra-franco7802 Рік тому +8

    I may get a Shaman at some point, but the Manix 2 XL is easily one of the greatest folders ive ever owned, and I've owned many.

  • @redlobo713
    @redlobo713 Рік тому +11

    Came from MC's stream love the spiderco knives

  • @Yoder-jr6xj
    @Yoder-jr6xj Рік тому +4

    Dang, now I want a shaman

  • @rustyknifelover4463
    @rustyknifelover4463 Рік тому +1

    Absolutely love the Shaman. I sold my original and got the BladeHQ Exclusive Spyderco Shaman in M4 and Green Micarta.

  • @richardvirchow3390
    @richardvirchow3390 Рік тому +2

    I’ve got several Spyderco knives including the Shaman, which is my favorite of the bunch.

  • @carmelotansengco4605
    @carmelotansengco4605 Рік тому +1

    Bought my first one right after I got out of the hospital back in 2022. I managed to ruin the pivot last year and I couldn't find any replacement pivot and screws so I ordered another one. Why? Well it's because after you've experienced the Shaman, you just can't do without it in your collection. So there I was with a replacement and I was happy. However, I saw an all black Shaman in the shop where I hang out in. Guess what I did? I got that one too. Now I've got three (I can still use the one with the screwed up pivot) to go along with my PM2, Military 2, Native Chief, my three Native 5s, my two lightweight Manix 2s, my regular Manix 2 and my Manix 2 XL and those are just the Golden Colorado Spydercos in my collection. Now I don't know what to do with all of them.

    • @CuttingEdgeEDC
      @CuttingEdgeEDC  Рік тому +1

      💯 Love it! That’s a great collection and a good story to accompany it.
      Thanks for watching, and thanks for sharing!

    • @gjr1974
      @gjr1974 10 місяців тому +1

      I know what you mean, there’s just something about the all blacked out Shaman! I would send the one with the damaged pivot to Spyderco, I’m sure that’s an easy and reasonably priced fix.

  • @josephodum3205
    @josephodum3205 Рік тому

    Came here from MC's recommendation awesome content brother! Deff will be watching ya from here on out.

    • @CuttingEdgeEDC
      @CuttingEdgeEDC  Рік тому

      Thank you sir! Greatly appreciate the support.

  • @jeffoff7795
    @jeffoff7795 6 місяців тому +1

    Yes is the answer. At least it's my answer. I prefer it to the other Spyderco staples like the Para3, the PM2, and the Manix 2. I haven't tried the Slysz Bowie but I imagine it's pretty sweet.

  • @Randy_G
    @Randy_G Рік тому +1

    Came here from MC’s stream. I hope you are doing good content to get more subscribers. :)

    • @CuttingEdgeEDC
      @CuttingEdgeEDC  Рік тому

      Thanks for coming over! I hope my content is good, I’ll let you be the judge!

  • @EddieHuck
    @EddieHuck Рік тому +2

    Great review. I too came over from the Metal_Complex live stream. I was leery of Spiderco but in my search for the best EDC for me I tried out a Para 3 that has now become my absolute favorite carry knife, It is light weight and as you noted once you are used to the compression lock, very easy to use with just one hand. Keep the content coming.

    • @CuttingEdgeEDC
      @CuttingEdgeEDC  Рік тому

      Thanks for sharing! Hope to get my hands on a Para (2, or 3) some time soon. Appreciate the support!

    • @ericsierra-franco7802
      @ericsierra-franco7802 Рік тому

      Why are you leery of Spyderco?

  • @ericmack001
    @ericmack001 8 місяців тому +2

    There is a Spyderco Nirvana listed on Ebay for 1,400 $. Who buys all of the Spyderco sprint runs and limited edition knives. Spyderco has brought out the Para 3 in a bunch of different steels. They went from S30 V to S45VN, Maxamet, Cruwear, S15V, S110V to Elmax and other steels. They also have dealer exclusives. Why would they do that if not for collectors?

  • @nickGEdc
    @nickGEdc Рік тому +2

    Never seen that spyder card before that’s actually pretty cool! Great share man

    • @CuttingEdgeEDC
      @CuttingEdgeEDC  Рік тому

      Stay tuned! I’ll post up a little review on it.

  • @mercilessforever
    @mercilessforever 8 місяців тому

    The s30v g10 shaman was also my first spyderco when I decided to try one other than benchmade. The shaman hasn’t left my pocket since I got it. I prefer it to the superfreek although it’s a different type of knife but similar. The handle ergos and blade shape are just perfect with this knife. I also added a CME button for the lock which makes the knife a million times easier to actuate with BOTH hands too

  • @DuhYaThink
    @DuhYaThink Рік тому +4

    Love the Shaman. Have2 micarta m4 bhq versions, dlc and satin. The Native Chief is a great model also.

    • @CuttingEdgeEDC
      @CuttingEdgeEDC  Рік тому +1

      I like the Chief. That, or the YoJumbo will probably be the next Spyderco I pick up.

    • @DuhYaThink
      @DuhYaThink Рік тому

      @@CuttingEdgeEDC I grabbed the BHQ Jade m4 Yojumbo and put black liners in it and a black Lynch clip. It’s a pretty sweet knife. Like the yojimbo2 also. That microJimbo looks way to small. For me anyway. It’s smaller then a Native 5😳

  • @DeAngelo484
    @DeAngelo484 Рік тому +1

    I love my shaman its either that or my bul tomahawk no other knife can compete.

  • @markparks9996
    @markparks9996 Рік тому +2

    You are definitely getting me to think about getting a Shaman

  • @cowboysilver4838
    @cowboysilver4838 Рік тому +1

    I’m so glad I’m not the only one who just flicks their knives open when watching tv!!

    • @CuttingEdgeEDC
      @CuttingEdgeEDC  Рік тому +1

      It drives my wife nuts! Greatest fidget toy on earth is the mighty pocket knife haha. Thanks for watching!

    • @rdk5854
      @rdk5854 Рік тому

      Doesn't everyone 🤠

  • @TXDanRob
    @TXDanRob Рік тому +3

    Sypderco cornerstones: utility and ergonomics. BUT sometimes they are also beautiful (i.e., Shaman). Great review! Keep it up!

    • @CuttingEdgeEDC
      @CuttingEdgeEDC  Рік тому +1

      Agreed. Wish they would chase that rabbit a little further down the hole and come out with some other designs in that same vein. Thank you much! Really appreciated the support!

  • @Robert_Thomas832
    @Robert_Thomas832 Рік тому

    Thinking of buying my first Spyderco here in UK. Thanks for sharing and waffling on about knives 👍

    • @CuttingEdgeEDC
      @CuttingEdgeEDC  Рік тому

      Hope you’re able to get your hands on one! Thanks for watching!

  • @justinlingo8423
    @justinlingo8423 Рік тому +2

    Love my Shaman! In my top 3. But I had the nub reduced some and now I can use the compression lock like I was used to on my Para 3.I didn't like how it would hit your pointer finger when it closed.

    • @CuttingEdgeEDC
      @CuttingEdgeEDC  Рік тому

      Man! I didn’t even mention that in the video. I’ve gotten so used to it. Doesn’t cross my mind. Looking back though, I did notice that a lot when I first started carrying this knife.

  • @Kris_Stiletto
    @Kris_Stiletto Рік тому +1

    That's a really cool Folder. But, I like my Compression-Lock, Spyderco, Military 2 more... :-) I, also, like my Manix 2 XL's better, too... But, that's a very cool Spyderco, too. Great discussion Video. :-) Peace, Stiletto :-)

  • @jasonsanchez0
    @jasonsanchez0 Рік тому

    Came from mc. Won a knife tonight. Subbed cuz why not. Good luck on your channel. Godspeed.

    • @CuttingEdgeEDC
      @CuttingEdgeEDC  Рік тому

      Congratulations on winning that Maxace, that thing is a tank! Thanks for checking out the channel!

  • @emmanuelraposo457
    @emmanuelraposo457 Рік тому +1

    Love the Shaman. Oh and love the logo really NICE.

  • @dn2610
    @dn2610 Рік тому

    Awesome video! Have 7 Shaman's, 3 of them are exclusives. Thanks for sharing, subbed! 👍

    • @CuttingEdgeEDC
      @CuttingEdgeEDC  Рік тому +1

      That’s the way to do it man! Thanks for the support!

  • @KnifeFeind
    @KnifeFeind Рік тому

    I think the Shaman is def the best. Oh, yeah. I got here from MC's live stream last night as well. Keep up the good work, and I'll keep giving views. Need to grab a sponsorship before long! 🎉🎉 congrats, man!

    • @CuttingEdgeEDC
      @CuttingEdgeEDC  Рік тому

      Thank you for the support! Very much appreciated.

  • @MrCn101
    @MrCn101 9 місяців тому

    Really like the file work on the spine of the blade, it’s a nice touch. Did you do it?

    • @CuttingEdgeEDC
      @CuttingEdgeEDC  9 місяців тому +2

      It was done by ‘Way Of Knife’ in Michigan.

  • @gaelyngilliam6477
    @gaelyngilliam6477 Рік тому

    came here from Mc. love seeing some of the lesser shown spyderco knives

  • @Marc-Vickers
    @Marc-Vickers Рік тому

    Wishing you the best for your channel in 2024.

  • @Angelo535
    @Angelo535 Рік тому +2

    Thanks for the showing. At first my thoughts on spyderco wasn't good. Some of the scales look to plasticy. And that what was throwing me off, but im seeing more and more that don't look that way. Haven't held one yet , but im trying to give them a chance, i may be crazy but i guess. 😂

    • @CuttingEdgeEDC
      @CuttingEdgeEDC  Рік тому +1

      I felt the same exact way. I used to really dog on Spyderco until I tried one out. They’re excellent knives.

    • @EDCandLace
      @EDCandLace Рік тому +2

      If you care about the knife as a cutting tool first and foremost, spyderco can't be touched. If your more in to the fidget/pocket jewelry type knives then spyderco isn't necessary for you. With a knife as a knife spyderco just kills any other production brands out there and beats out a lot of custom makers ad well. They hire the right people, invest in the right equipment and spend plenty of time dialing in their heat treat protocols and they are willing to invest in running different and interesting steels and spending the time to build a protocol that gets the most out of said steel in a large production environment.

    • @Angelo535
      @Angelo535 Рік тому +1

      I definitely don't care about pocket bling
      I can use a $10000 just as easy as I would a 2 dollar knife, 🤣 I only have three newer knives now and they are maybe 40.-60 dollar knives my others are old , so like I said I need to give them a chance,

  • @bobarends6324
    @bobarends6324 Рік тому

    Never owned a Spyderco, but this one in S30V is on my wishlist.
    Visiting the DKE (Dutch Knife Exhibition) this april. Who knows...

    • @CuttingEdgeEDC
      @CuttingEdgeEDC  Рік тому

      Hope you’re able to get your hands on one! Thanks for watching.

  • @bibigreen6533
    @bibigreen6533 Рік тому

    I preferred the Spydiechef, but the Shaman was a close second. Sold them both, but I'll rebuy the Chef at some point. Best EDC folder I've had.

  • @reidstampler1969
    @reidstampler1969 Рік тому

    Nice video.I currently own a PM 2 it's been my carry for a lot of years but I would like to try a Shaman. I had a Manix 2 for about 3 hours. It didn't feel good to me in hand compared to the PM2.

    • @CuttingEdgeEDC
      @CuttingEdgeEDC  Рік тому

      I think you’ll like the shaman. Better ergos than the Manix in my opinion.

  • @gjr1974
    @gjr1974 Рік тому +1

    Love the thumbnail image! And yes, I think the Shaman is the best.

    • @CuttingEdgeEDC
      @CuttingEdgeEDC  Рік тому +1

      Thanks! Haha. I spend way too much time on the thumbnails.

    • @gjr1974
      @gjr1974 Рік тому

      Haha, well, your hard work is appreciated! Thanks again

  • @beeferbaron
    @beeferbaron Рік тому +1

    Yes the shaman wins every time. My buddy has a para 3 and I was pretty impressed with that one. Even though I prefer larger knives

    • @CuttingEdgeEDC
      @CuttingEdgeEDC  Рік тому

      The paras are great, there’s definitely a reason they’re so popular. I was also impressed by the Manix 2, I really like the ball lock. Spyderco makes a bunch of excellent knives.

  • @jordy703
    @jordy703 4 місяці тому

    There is no best knife. There is only a personal best knife for each individual. Is it a great knife? Absolute.

  • @scotthumphrey99
    @scotthumphrey99 Рік тому

    Where did you get that bead. It would look good on my shaman and match my brass backspacer.

    • @CuttingEdgeEDC
      @CuttingEdgeEDC  Рік тому

      It’s a cap off a refrigerant line. I found it on a roof and drilled a hole in it. I’m sure they can be found at the hardware store. Thanks for watching!

  • @sprinkleddonuts6094
    @sprinkleddonuts6094 Рік тому +2

    Yes YES IT IS.
    I have two at the moment
    The Knife Joker Exclusive shaman and
    S30V stonewashed satin black G10 version.
    Edit: i own 10 spyderco, including the ones you mentioned PM2, Manix2 LW StNicks and Black s30v DLC black G10.
    I like big knives and YoJumbo, PM2, Manix are great choices
    But Shaman just Feels and Makes it just right

    • @CuttingEdgeEDC
      @CuttingEdgeEDC  Рік тому

      I very nearly picked up YoJumbo several months ago, really like that knife. The ergos are nuts! Thank you for watching!

    • @sprinkleddonuts6094
      @sprinkleddonuts6094 Рік тому

      @@CuttingEdgeEDC BHQ still has their YoJumbo exclusive available. If you are on the fence about picking it up, i would go ahead and get it while you still can. Cause once it is gone it’s gone, and that is when you will want it lol.
      199 isn’t bad at all for it. I love it, it took me 2 years to decide if i wanted it, then BHQ came out with their exclusive and picked it up the day it dropped.
      It really is amazing, i carried it in rotation for 2 months and its great, I didn’t even know it was there til i reached for it.
      Some People say the knife choil is annoying, but it really isn’t. Probably because i love the Shaman so much.
      It is a very small aesthetic gripe i got is that there is a cut out for a finger choil but they didn’t cut the blade away for it to match the scales. But i mean a very minuscule gripe.
      Get it man

    • @DuhYaThink
      @DuhYaThink Рік тому +3

      Have you tried a Police 4 lw or Native Chief? Great models. I have a huge Spyderco collection and a Military 2 and a Native 5 lw magnacut serrated edge are my edc most times.👍🏻

    • @sprinkleddonuts6094
      @sprinkleddonuts6094 Рік тому +2

      @@DuhYaThink that’s cool, i don’t like lockbacks too much, the ones i have are great, but i would take a slipjoint over a lockback.
      That being said StNicks Chief 4V is great.

  • @dnationapocalypse
    @dnationapocalypse 10 місяців тому

    ...My hands are in fact, upside down... I'm glad that Spyderco thought of people like me 😬

    • @CuttingEdgeEDC
      @CuttingEdgeEDC  10 місяців тому

      😂 Inclusion is of high importance.

  • @jimreplicant
    @jimreplicant 9 місяців тому

    What did you do to the spine of the shaman?

    • @CuttingEdgeEDC
      @CuttingEdgeEDC  9 місяців тому

      Filework. It was done by Way Of Knife in Michigan. They do a great job.

  • @cheesuschrist1477
    @cheesuschrist1477 11 місяців тому

    Did you ever try the extended compression lock piece that sticks on ?

    • @CuttingEdgeEDC
      @CuttingEdgeEDC  11 місяців тому +1

      Haven’t tried it! Haven’t had any trouble at all with the stock switch though.

    • @cheesuschrist1477
      @cheesuschrist1477 11 місяців тому

      @@CuttingEdgeEDC awesome thanks for the info

  • @ryandye6242
    @ryandye6242 Рік тому

    Just subscribed and looking for to some great content!!!!

  • @jasonholland5507
    @jasonholland5507 Рік тому

    Do you have a link I was thinking about buying? I'm sure metal complex wouldn't mind me ordering through your affiliate link

    • @CuttingEdgeEDC
      @CuttingEdgeEDC  Рік тому

      Yessir. This place price matches, so shop around a little and find the price you like before you order.
      Stonewashed: www.bladebarn.com/store/p/shaman-s30v-compression-lock
      DLC: www.bladebarn.com/store/p/shaman-dlc-black-compression-lock

  • @sebastianromero113
    @sebastianromero113 10 місяців тому

    How do you like new disgn Bodacious?

    • @CuttingEdgeEDC
      @CuttingEdgeEDC  10 місяців тому +1

      I haven’t handled one yet, but I like the looks of it! Looks to me like a more traditionally “Spyderco” version of the shaman.

  • @presidentpotato222
    @presidentpotato222 Рік тому

    Nice Video , Nice Lighting .. my only suggestion would be hand lotion

    • @CuttingEdgeEDC
      @CuttingEdgeEDC  Рік тому +1

      Heard, I put the lotion on my skin. Please step away from the hose. Thanks for watching!

    • @presidentpotato222
      @presidentpotato222 Рік тому

      @@CuttingEdgeEDC hehehehehehehheeh well done sir .. Movie Reference 87% perfect reply .. .. heheehhe put the spyderco in the basket

  • @Budzs101
    @Budzs101 Рік тому

    thanks for the video like your lanyard on your Shaman

    • @CuttingEdgeEDC
      @CuttingEdgeEDC  Рік тому

      Thanks! The bead is a cap off a refrigerant hose I found on a roof.

  • @davidf3974
    @davidf3974 Рік тому

    Spyderco knives are meant to be used, and thats what i love about them. Unfortunately thats why i keep buying them too, because i keep trying to find the perfect knife for my hand and to play with when im bored

    • @CuttingEdgeEDC
      @CuttingEdgeEDC  Рік тому +1

      Like potato chips! Can’t have just one. Thanks for watching!

  • @johnniewalker33
    @johnniewalker33 Рік тому +1

    Cant say I'm a fan of the handle shape and material, would have preferred g10 more rough slightly blockier

    • @CuttingEdgeEDC
      @CuttingEdgeEDC  Рік тому

      Not sure if you own any Spydercos but it sounds like you’d love the Para 2.

  • @dmlmedia7382
    @dmlmedia7382 Рік тому +1

    I have both, I prefer my manix xl. Shaman is fun to otf with my thumb

    • @CuttingEdgeEDC
      @CuttingEdgeEDC  Рік тому

      The front flip is a nice feature, people complain about the weight of this knife but the satisfying “thud” you get when you flip this thing over the front is 👌🏻. Thanks for watching!

  • @SonoraSlinger
    @SonoraSlinger Рік тому

    Imo, Spyderco is all the same knife. Until the Shaman. I really dig the shaman. Yours is beautiful man.

  • @SalvoEDC
    @SalvoEDC Рік тому

    My S30V Spyderco is terrible but I’m happy you got a good one. 🎉

    • @CuttingEdgeEDC
      @CuttingEdgeEDC  Рік тому +1

      Dude, thats a bummer! If you purchase any in the future I hope you have better luck. Thanks for watching!

    • @SalvoEDC
      @SalvoEDC Рік тому +1

      Sure thing! I just got a bunch of Spyders in K390, Maxamet and CruWear. We gotta keep the gang in the game. 😏@@CuttingEdgeEDC

  • @grumpyuncle.
    @grumpyuncle. Рік тому +1

    I love my Benchmade, but I carry my Spyderco.

  • @pannan80
    @pannan80 Рік тому +1

    If they made it in metal,i would buy one.

    • @CuttingEdgeEDC
      @CuttingEdgeEDC  Рік тому

      I’d love to see a titanium or aluminum version.

  • @user-od2cd9qt4y
    @user-od2cd9qt4y Рік тому +1

    If your looking for a edc ronin or THE CIVILIAN

  • @TranslateToEnglish
    @TranslateToEnglish Рік тому

    If you check on the price of used Spyderco Shaman knives, you may want to change your mind about collecting them. I own a few that only came out of the box once and then went right back in.

    • @CuttingEdgeEDC
      @CuttingEdgeEDC  Рік тому

      I’m in it for the love of the knives man! Thanks for watching!

  • @mynameisbub97
    @mynameisbub97 Рік тому

    Im sold. Gonna go get me one.

    • @CuttingEdgeEDC
      @CuttingEdgeEDC  Рік тому +1

      Do it! Hope you enjoy it as much as I enjoy mine!

  • @29erallday
    @29erallday Рік тому

    Was super interested in this knife, then held it and it didn't work for me, way too slick in the hand.

    • @CuttingEdgeEDC
      @CuttingEdgeEDC  Рік тому

      Gotta use what you’re comfortable with! Doesn’t do you any good if you can’t hold onto it.

  • @jimtillapaugh5551
    @jimtillapaugh5551 Рік тому

    The Shaman is spicy 🌶️!!!

  • @nickhathaway4617
    @nickhathaway4617 Рік тому

    I think manix 2 is the best. But axis style lock is my favorite.

    • @CuttingEdgeEDC
      @CuttingEdgeEDC  Рік тому

      Have you tried any of the RamLok knives from Microtech? I’ve got a video of the RamLok Stitch up on the channel. The RanLok is the GOAT crossbar lock in my opinion.

    • @nickhathaway4617
      @nickhathaway4617 Рік тому +1

      @@CuttingEdgeEDC not yet to much$$$ for me. Even my spyderco's are 2nd hand lol. My Mannix is the smoothest knife I've ever felt even my buddy says that you can't even feel the thing open it's crazy

  • @cody3078
    @cody3078 Рік тому

    4 minutes in and the Shaman was only mentioned in name. For a video highlighting the shaman maybe try to tighten up the intro to focus more on the subject of the video. Just trying to give some feedback 👍🏻

  • @Spthomas47
    @Spthomas47 Рік тому

    I've had a Shaman for about 8 months now. Still not sure what the fuss is about really.
    Is it a good knife? Absolutely.
    Is it a go to carry for me? No.
    I find the blade shape awkward for my day to day and not the biggest fan of the compression lock for one-handed ease.
    While I know it would be an oddity for Spiderco, not sure the heat treat is good on mine as it's the chippiest s30 I own.
    Not unhappy with owning it, just haven't understood the hype since handling it.
    🤘🏼✌🏽

    • @CuttingEdgeEDC
      @CuttingEdgeEDC  Рік тому

      Different strokes for different folks! If everyone had the same tastes we wouldn’t have so many cool knives to choose from! Thanks for watching!

    • @Spthomas47
      @Spthomas47 Рік тому

      @@CuttingEdgeEDC
      Re different strokes: absolutely.
      Re thanks for watching: absolutely

  • @EDCandLace
    @EDCandLace Рік тому

    I do like the shaman but it's not the knife the manix is imo.

    • @CuttingEdgeEDC
      @CuttingEdgeEDC  Рік тому

      The Manix is a great knife, no doubt. Thanks for watching!

  • @jcalendine
    @jcalendine Рік тому

    So, it’s good for fidgeting with, and it’s better than the non S30V ones you have. You sound like a Benchmade fanboy who just discovered Spyderco. Welcome.

    • @CuttingEdgeEDC
      @CuttingEdgeEDC  Рік тому +1

      Microtech fanboy actually, but thank you for the warm welcome either way!

  • @InGratitudeIam
    @InGratitudeIam Рік тому

    It's too bad you don't know about the history of certain agencies' use and development of Spyderco knives. The Matriarch was derived from the Civilian. Do some research and you'll be amazed if not horrified.

    • @CuttingEdgeEDC
      @CuttingEdgeEDC  Рік тому

      I’m familiar with some of it, not all of it. Thanks for watching.

    • @InGratitudeIam
      @InGratitudeIam Рік тому +1

      @@CuttingEdgeEDC And that's part of the reason behind collecting.

  • @daiginjou2u
    @daiginjou2u 10 місяців тому

    Lots of talking and a very slow delivery. Should be a 3min vid, not 12min.

  • @edrader
    @edrader Рік тому

    too heavy

    • @CuttingEdgeEDC
      @CuttingEdgeEDC  Рік тому

      To each his own Ed. I love heavy knives, a good lightweight carry certainly has its place in my collection though.

  • @rogervoyles7726
    @rogervoyles7726 Рік тому

    Absolutely not
    It's good but it's not that good

    • @CuttingEdgeEDC
      @CuttingEdgeEDC  Рік тому

      Fair enough. To each his own! Thanks for tuning in. Appreciate the support!

  • @lymedog3176
    @lymedog3176 Рік тому

    It’s a good looking knife, but its weak point is the compression lock . It’s just a reverse version of the liner lock. That’s why the manix with its crossbar lock or the strech with the back lock are superior. Especially under hard use. I’ve seen, button ,liner and compression locks fail… but where crossbar and back locks held with no issue.