America reacts to UK's Secret Armed Police
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There is a difference between ‘secret’ and ‘I didn’t know about it’.
😂😂😂 that’s so true, there are no secret soldiers or police in the Britain, we know about all of them
@@davephillips9035And how would you know that we know about all of them lol
Americans don’t know much so I’m not surprised 😜
Is that like the Masons 🤔 did I say that out loud ohh 😮
@@av812bb My point is that there could still be secret soldiers, and we'd have have no way of knowing because you cant prove a negative.
FYI These are not secret Police, they are armed Police whose job is to protect Britains nuclear weapons and establishments containing nuclear material. They provide static security, canine units and armed response units.
They are under direct control of the Ministry of Defence. Their main role is to protect against threats from terrorists, hence the reason they are so heavily armed. They are not Military Police although they have been known to work alongside them.
Ministry of Defence you mean..
1. you mean ministry of defence, and 2. they are literally called MOD Police. They do more than just nuclear, they also protect everything that is MOD related in England, in comparison to a couple armed police teams in the met the MOD police aren't really anything special. However all English armed police (all teams and divisions) are much better trained that the us police and most other armed police around the world
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Nuclear_Constabulary
It’s not mod but it’s the civil nuclear constabulary, the only regularly armed police service in uk . One of the entrance tests is you have prove you are weapons competent. Usually they recruit from the armed forces direct.
@@davidfilcher this video is not about the CNC. It is about the MOD Police that protect nuclear weapons, not civil nuclear sites.
"I wonder if other countries think American police are like this?" No mate, we don't expect them to be that organised :)
The UK Police live by the idea, "If you're going to do something, do it properly". So when we do armed police, they're the best armed police in the world (or as close as we can get).
Exactamundo! 🎉
Except they aren't. GSG9, GIGN, Marshall SOG, FBI HRT would like to have a word with you.
@@jakemensik2842 yeah some of those will be better than some of the UK police, I don't doubt it. At the end of the day it's down to individual performance so it's impossible to say overall who is the best - hence my parenthesis. They are at the top alongside other nations like some of those you listed. Worth pointing out as well that the police occasionally use SAS and SBS for internal security operations so while they aren't part of the police service, they would definitely count as some of the most elite available.
Besides all that, my comment wasn't meant as a pissing contest, just that we as a nation believe that anyone with a gun should be trained to the absolute best of their ability to use it, and not just given a bit of training and sent out there. There are no rookie police officers with guns in the UK and that's what I like about it.
@@elliottsw Well written Elliot and your as humble as a good British man. Thanks for your two posts
Practiced alongside local armed police at my local gun club, and I can tell you with all honesty, it was a running joke in the club how mediocre these guys were at shooting. Not saying they were bad, but they were middle of the road
They are NOT Secret Police.
This video covers the Ministry of Defence Police, they are a more unknown service across the UK as they are rarely seen/come across by the majority of the public. Hence why the video refers to them as a secret police service. Unlike the more commonly seen Armed Response officers which are in every constabulary across the UK and not a secret.
Clickbait title...
They are known as " MODPLOD ".
There is also the The Civil Nuclear Constabulary that protects nuclear power stations they armed and not military
@@maxwellturnbull1903a grandson in the military police. His wants to see the world, then join the civil police whether that works out is another matter. so far I have 2 grandsons 1 granddaughter and a grandson in law in the army. my grandads both served in the army in the 1st snd second World Wars. one was in the horse artillery. But my dad was in the navy. I never joined any of military strange how things work out
They took one shot at the man pointing a gun at them. After the shot they quickly re-assessed the situation to determine if more potentially lethal force was needed. American police officers in a similar situation are more likely to shoot and empty their gun magazines and to shoot to kill instead of to shoot to eliminate the immediate threat. Clearly the big difference with regards to training comes into play, as well as cultural differences.
Yes, thats's true (they all shoot to kill though, that's what 'eliminating the threat' means), but these guys are carrying rifles and they're properly trained. Unfortunately America has so many guns on the streets that their police cannot afford to wait for highly trained armed officers (basically SWAT) on EVERY interaction. It means that their average police officer has to deal with it and they're usually only armed with a pistol. There's a BIG difference between shooting with a rifle and shooting with a pistol and, with the latter, the chances of you taking down an armed suspect with 1 shot is pretty slim, and if you fail to take an armed suspect down in 1 shot they may well shoot you or someone else. When the more highly trained American police do turn up on the scene with their rifles, guess what? They usually only need 1 or maybe 2 shots to take the suspect down too. I'm not trying to advocate for police emptying entire magazines into people, just trying to give some balance and reasoning for why they do this. It looks pretty barbaric at first but those police aren't in some blind panic just holding the trigger down until their gun is empty, they're actually told to do that in training because, sadly, they've learned the hard way through experience that you REALLY have to make sure someone is down when you've 'only' got a pistol on your hip. Ideally I guess all American police would carry rifles, but then that brings up other issues with public interactions and cost and training and so on and so forth. There are no easy answers other than to take away as many guns as possible and Americans are just not going to let that happen.
There's a difficult history between military, police and civilians about what 'shoot to kill' means, that's why it isn't used.
But personally, I believe it comes down to a long history of difference between how British and other services think of shooting.
British usually emphasise 'hitting the target', while others (not all) emphasise 'weight of fire'.
'Killing the enemy' or 'having a firefight'.
So true 👍
@@matthewwalker5430 Every time a soldier or a police officer discharges they weapon at someone they are NOT aiming to wound.
UK only needed them after mass immigration & illegals flooding in the English destroyed a small Island in 60 years the genocide is well underway in the last 3 day's 1500 illegals have arrived collected from France & Germany
M.O.D = Ministry Of Defence.
From what I've seen of American police, they just empty the entire magazine into someone and ask questions later !
And then get away with it 😂
Yep! Have you heard about Ulvade? I've never seen such cowardice.
the UK is the definite example of quality over quantity
Really? depends where you live in the UK. There's definitely no quality or quantity in Cornwall
@@Mike72UK Then move to Devon lol.
😂😂😂 no it isn't
Let me give you some context as to why our gun laws and police are set up in this way.
Gun deaths 2022
UK 32
US 40,000
School shootings 2023
UK 0
US 326 (so far)
I think our system works fairly well.
God bless America 😅
@@claregale9011 Good luck Americas, North and South, both continents.
@@claregale9011..yep, land of the fee!!
Liar, liar, pants on fire. There were roughly 23,000 total homicides in the US in 2021. I don't know where you got the 40,000 gun deaths. There were roughly 800 homicides in the UK for the same period and when you consider the population of the US is 6.5 times that of the UK the differences are not so dramatic. As far as school shootings go, I'm pretty sure your numbers are off also. Considering that knives are the weapons of choice in the UK, you should probably use those numbers as a comparison to guns in US schools. The problem is, the UK keeps those numbers a closely guarded secret.
@@kevinbrown-ge6sz and apparently the US keeps it's gun death figures a closely guarded secret from its citizens.
This is not a secret, if it were this video would not exist.
I once took a walk around Denge Marsh in the UK and ended up close to Dungeness Nuclear Power Station. Within 2 minutes, I was approached by 2 armed officers who were there to simply let me know that they were there. Really nice chaps, they told me about their role to protect the power station from any would-be attacker or trespasser. I wasn’t trespassing but they calmly explained that if I looked like trouble, I would be taken down. I thought it best not to send them my dry cleaning bill…
There were 6,192 police officers licensed to carry firearms in England and Wales as of 2022.
The regular British Police do carry firearms, they are just restricted to the Armed Response Units.
UK only needed them after mass immigration & illegals flooding in the English destroyed a small Island in 60 years the genocide is well underway in the last 3 day's 1500 illegals have arrived collected from France & Germany
Not true. Some British carry them. All PSNI still carry side arms because and especially lately there's still a chance of terror attack against police by scummy dissident republicans to murder officers
That is not true i am a security guard i work all over london train stations victoria ect armed police are at every station or have a stash/locker to access firearms. Regular police do not carry firearms the armed response unit AFO/TFU officers are a unit and do carry fire arms
Fun fact the Northern Irish police (PSNI is the UK police force in northern Ireland) all for the most part carry guns.
@@gutsblackswordsman3986 Yeah this ain't that common outside of London. Possibly excluding some larger stations in other regions but that isn't common.
This had nothing to do with a routine traffic offence stop.
He was joking, obviously
@@suppenjunge He was trying... sadly, his jokes aren't funny.
No, these are not akin to police SWAT in the US. British constabularies (which each cover large geographical areas) each have one or several Armed Response Teams (ARTs), which correspond to US SWATs. There are 45 territorial police constabularies in the UK, plus British Transport Police, the Civil Nuclear Constabulary, and the Ministry of Defence Police. So there are a total of 48 police forces in the UK, compared to 18,000 different police forces and agencies in the US. 🙄
your comment is bang on, however playing devils advocate I believe you can fit england into the state of texas, so if thats true theres 48 services for the 1 area.
@@markjeffers1341....what... lmao...texas is twice the size of England has half the population and everyone in Texas carries a gun...lol 😂
@@markjeffers1341 360 million vs 70 million. That's still a lot of separate police forces. Texas is what around 28 million people. How many police forces in Texas alone? And its the UK not just England.
@@glastonbury4304 and about 1 year ago had the uvalde incident and despite having the guns, no one had the balls to use them until it was too late.
@@antonycharnock2993 furthermore for comparison- borough market incident- 3 terrorist with fake bomb vests and bladed weapons- killed by 3 ARV guys and 500 + rounds within 3 minutes, after an unarmed BTP cop fought them first, having the guns means nothing without the balls to use them clinically and appropriately.
I think its fair to say there is just a very different mentality and training regime between the two forces in general. I remember being in Fort Lauderdale in Florida on a project several years ago. There was a law enforcement event that included a Police shooting in Miami. I am sure the incident was partially driven by animosity as two Policemen had been shot earlier in the incident but the suspect was shot by the police officers 150+ times, when asked by Channel 7 news (?) why he had "been shot 150+ times"? The Miami Police Chief actually answered "Because we ran out of bullet's"!
FFS. We had to make sure he was dEaDeD eNoUgH.
Bullshit
I heard he survived and got a job as a tea bag.
@@scobra5941ffs 😂😂😂
Im my line of work I often bump into these guys. Despite the vid they are very chill and wont be pointing guns at you even if you are wandering about where they think you shouldnt be. While more on alert, they still take the same pragmatic and de-escalating approach as our normal police. But i wouldnt want to be on their wrong end :P
Nothing secret about them, and some of the regular police do have guns - each shift in an area will have at least one Armed Response Unit
This is NOT a traffic stop. Also, these are not secret police, but they are fearsome. Each constabulary has at least one such unit.
Mm, no, these arent regular armed police, theyre the MOD police, which is separate to the regular police forces. They only have one job, maintain the peace in and around MOD installations. As the installations are critical to the nation's defense, they're all armed and specially trained.
"will it justify a follow up shot" - Lol ive seen enough American police bodycams, if one officer makes a shot, every single officer in the vicinity will unload their entire magazine into the suspect. America.
There's also The Civil Nuclear Constabulary, which is a unique armed police force, trained to College of Policing standards who maintain the security of the nation’s licenced civil nuclear sites and civil nuclear material in transit in England and Scotland.
Uk swat team are called armed response officers.
The big difference here is that a car registration plate can be scanned by a computer camera in motion and police computer data bases can tell a police officer in a car if a firearms crime has been committed by the owner of the vehicle or if they were known to carry firearms or had a terrorism connected conviction. If they are in the 'wrong area' It wont be P.C Plod who will stop him but these guys.
SWAT in America would be equivalent to the SOG in England, MDP works for the MOD similar to the DOD.
The officers of the Civil Nuclear Constabulary are just as heavily armed if not more so, they are in charge of the security at the UK’s nuclear power stations and the policing within a 3km radius of the facilities, they also guard the fuel casks when they are moved around the country and internationally
The regular Police, although most are unarmed "May" be armed as we have "Armed response teams" within each Constabulary. Tasers are a different matter?
These are somewhat of an upgrade to the old "MOD Plods" that we had at military units in the UK when I was in the RAF, 30 years ago. It looks like pehaps, they have taken on the duties of certain military personnel due to cutbacks elsewhere?
There used to be a joke that all MOD Police were good for, was opening and closing gates. That seems to have changed for the better?
These police have restricted powers when not on MOD property. A similar force manages civilian Nuclear infrastructure - power stations and transport of nuclear fuel…..UK exports nuclear fuel, so that police force also accompany the transporting ships abroad.
In Britain we have different units for different situations, we have specific firearms police unit that undergo specialist training, you occasionally see them walking the streets through town centres but as little as possible as most people view firearms as a threat, even when in the hands of a police officer
"... view as a threat even in the hands of a police officer" - rightly so, considering the De Menezes and other Keystone Kops-style UK police firearms activity. Just sheer recklessness and a feeling they can always stand up in court (ID shielded) and lie about perceiving there was a threat they had to er neutralise. Always much worse in the USA of course
I live in a little village on the East Coast of England. Just up the road from my house there is a massive processing facility where the natural gas is pumped in from the North Sea and stored. There is also the National Grid storage. We have Ministry of Defence armed police with dogs driving around 24/7 because it is critical infrastructure. It is probably one of the best protected parts of the UK.
Nice beaches at Bacton. Was there a couple of weeks ago.
These guys are chill. I work for a large cruise and container port, and they always stop for a chat and are overall friendly, kind people, until you fuck with them lmao
In the UK the use of lethal force is very tightly controlled. There has to be a clear threat to life. Over here you can get shot at and if the bad guy throw the weapon away and runs off you cant shoot them in the back, for one example.
In the UK we have ARV's (Armed Response Vehicle) out on the public street. The ARV has the firearms. On military sites we have the MOD (Ministry Of Defence) police. These are the MOD Police. We also have British Transport Police.
The MOD Police also guard the guards at Royal establishments like Horseguards, Buckingham palace etc. There is a squad called the Armed Response Team of regular police, there is also Military Police. Then you get MI5 and MI6 who are more like James Bondy stuff. Secret Police per se does not exist.
The big difference I think in the UK as compared to the US is armed police are there to neutralise the threat and not necessarily kill the individual. By capturing the individual alive you have the possibility of gaining more intelligence. whether they are working alone or have any criminal or terrorist connections etc. etc. Our armed police are intelligent and make full use of that fact. Of course if the situation warrants it for the protection of others the police will take out a gunman or terrorist if they really have to but definitely not considered as the normal first option.
These are not exactly a secret mate.
Quite a few police in the UK are armed these days .
But never those on the streets etc. Only special units.
@@marycarver1542 Same as here in Ireland. I knew someone who was in the armed response but his weapons were ALWAYS kept locked in a gun safe in the car unless they were needed. He never carried them openly in public [unless needed obviously] and the gardai on the streets are also unarmed. It feels great to be honest, safe as well.
Because of the terrorists though not because normal people need this type of policing
@@marycarver1542 You get a few walking around on the streets, at least in London you do.
MOD plods, at one base I was at (late 1970's) they just used to open the barrier and let us in, the whole mini bus in unison nodded at him, after a couple of days we were summoned to see the boss and told "not to nod at the mod plod".
Some of the "regular" Police can be armed but not usual. Once saw an armed one in my local chippy picking up fish and chips, his partner was waiting in the car.
In the 1980s at least, there was a trick where the gate guard looked for a tiny tell-tale, that would be the first of a number of checks to notice if the visitors were who they claimed to be.
This discovered a bomb attempt by the IRA, and the bomb was neutralised, the driver was followed and eventually the 'threat was neutralised'. It all begins with a raffle ticket...
Yeah I encountered MOD plod back in the day while in the mob, with similar experience. Things have changed a lot since then, my son is in a highly specialised MDP unit that is very highly trained and works constantly alongside SF operators. Certainly wasn’t what I expected when he told me he was joining the MDP 16 years ago 😂
These guys are special forces, more army than police. Not our regular bobbies! Our police do not carry guns.
Its always such a suprise to see any police who are armed. Ive only seen them once on real life, and any other time was in the airport.
The regular police in the UK do have guns. Usually an armed response team is called but at big events and busy cities you will often see tactical armed police - I've seen them in my local shopping centre. Armed in the same way as the MDP.
All officers have a Glock 17 gen3 but I think in court it is discussed on why it has been used. They will get prosecuted for just drawing the gun
The top armed police unit is CTSFO, and are seen very rarely. There are a number of units that are based in different areas of the country and also help other CTSFO units if the manpower is needed in a particular area or situation..
So, as I were saying, This IS NOT HOW WE CONDUCT TRAFFIC STOPS. WE conduct them with a LP (Local Policing) unit, who light it, that there is called a HARD STOP, where Armed police are involved to extract arrest by pointing firearms if they have such marker on ANPR (Automatic Number Plate Recognition)
Love your reaction as always. Have a nice day my friend.
I worked in Scotland on a military base doing some construction work these guys were every where tbh serious guys but friendly enough as long as you were meant to be there
the MDP is just one police service, however all police services have armed response teams, we also have CTSFO counter terrorist specialist firearms officers who are trained with the SAS/SBS and use techniques like explosives to enter premises, amongst other skills. Each police service has armed response teams, each region has CTSF teams and they all could be deployed at a moments notice, the CTSF teams very often work with national crime squad british secret services etc. during the london bridge/borough market attack we deployed " blue thunder" the british special forces rapid response team by helicopter, the met police did a photoshoot years ago displaying the team and kit, leys just say if you remember from the 80's street hawk and airwolf you have a good idea with armed motorcycles with weapons systems to go and nutralize threats very quickly. One very important thing to note from the video as at borough attack once the armed police got there it was not 1 bullet and re evaluate, I think there was over 500 rounds used and the most in uk police history.
"laser sights on their hats" had me in stitches 🤣🤣🤣
These are not Secret Police, they are in no way covert.
Do most Brits know they exist, I think so.
I think whenever an American does a compare US to UK police video, you will see in the comments that we have armed police and that in London (I expect they are elsewhere too) they are driving about ready to respond.
OK these maybe a particular unit for defending Nuclear Bases, but I think they are still civilian police.
If I did not mishear they are members of the civilian police force under special employment by the "Verteidigungsministerium"
Have seen such armed police at railways stations, waiting for the next train, the one after the one I got off.
@@stevetheduck1425 years ago, when i was about 16 I thinks, we had a class trip to britishland (week long kind from Germany) first thing of curiosity I noticed at Gatwick Airport were Two police personal casually walking through the terminal with what I think to be H&K MP5 as their primary
Our 'SWAT' team are typically known as AFOs (authorised firearms officers). These are just regular armed police that usually travel around equipped similarly to what you saw in the video. They'll either have C8s, G36Cs, SIG MCXs and on rare occasions I've seen them with MP7s. They're not really at the level of SWAT, but the other team is like our version of FBI HRT and they're known as CTSFO (Counter Terrorism Specialist Firearm Officers) so a level above a regular SWAT team. They'll usually be seen in a grey uniform with balaclavas (like in your thumbnail). They're capable of explosive entry and typically use SIG MCX rifles but have used C8s on occasions.
One of my life long friends is an Anglican Priest another was a MOD Police Officer the 2 sides of the state. There is a similar unit Nuclear Regulatory Police may be they're based at Nuclear sites and labs
I've not seen armed responses units on the road as of yet (which is a brilliant sign) but i know for a fact they're becoming a more and more common sight across the uk which is unfortunate. All in all I have nothing but respect for our forces. Thanks for trying to keep the UK safe.
I pulled up ouside where i lived yrs ago when an armed response unit were gearing up before raiding somewhere round the corner. Sas first time seeing coppers with automatic rifles
If you see the videos about horse guards , which is army headquarters, you will see the armed police. Busker in the park has good videos about horse guards.
They are not traffic cops
When I was a lad (about 60 years ago) my dad worked at ICI Nobel division and occasionally went in at the weekend to check on an ongoing experiment. One time he had to go in and I had to go with him and wait in the car in one of the car parks (13,000 people worked at ICI Nobel division). He was delayed and asked the Ministry of Defence police to go and check on me. They offered to look after me until he could get away. So I ended up on a Landrover security patrol with two fully armed Ministry of Defense police for a couple of hours going around the whole factory site. ICI Nobel Division site security was carried out by MoD police because it was a high explosive and missile propellant factory as well as making detonators and other things explosive for the MoD etc.
My, goodness the Mod Plods have certainly changed since my days in the RAF 30-odd years ago. At that time the average MOD Police Officer (certainly on my unit) seemed to be around 60 and just marking time until retirement. I recall the shock, not to say concern, when they were issued sidearms (this was during a time of high threat of terrorist attack during the 'Troubles'). It was bad enough that our own guards were carrying rifles with live ammo (and, during my months as guard commander I was often disconcerted!) but our mod plod colleagues seemed barely capable of lifting a pen, much less dealing out lethal force.
As others have commented however, hardly a 'secret' police force, I saw vacancies advertised just a few weeks ago online and in the press.
The ironic thing is, I didn't know how much their duties had changed since I was in the military and............I didn't know their HQ is where I finished my RAF career, and still drive past regularly to this day. I have to presume its stategically placed, due to the British and American bases close by and the proximity to the local constabularies training facilities?
The King visited my small town in North Yorkshire on Monday and we had police snipers on top of a medieval church in the town center.
If you want the UK equivalent of SWAT, the unit in the Metropolitan Police is called SCO19, though I would guess a good amount of their training is similar to the MDP in the video.
Have you seen anything about the UK advanced police driving courses? I've been in cars with people who have passed these and the difference in how the car feels, even at high speed is quite remarkable. I'd be very interested if you find a video that compares them to a US equivalent as the impression I got from a New York Times video is the police training in many parts of the US is either inadequate, or questionable
There was a advanced police driving school near where I grew up. Unmarked police cars were a bit of a nuisance, as they zipped around the country lanes at unholy speeds.
Mother of an ex police officer here. I bloody hate my daughter’s driving and when I complain she is always saying “ mum I am a highly trained driver” to which I alway reply “ well you’re not chasing anybody now, slow down or stop the car and let me out” and one time the little witch did just that right in the middle of nowhere. Guess who looked the fool 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The difference is, in Britain people dont LEGALLY have a gun in the car. Someone who legally owns a gun, has to keep it in a locked container for transport. So if someone jumps out of a car like that, with a gun in hand, its pretty clear for the police whats going on.
The one-shot attempt is indeed different to US cops. They shoot 50 rounds and still dont have hit properly. But admittedly, its much easier to make one shot count with a carbine like that, lethal as well as non lethal.
there is a UA-camr who regularly films horse guards' parade in London and often shows the MOD police on-site in case anyone thinks they are a soft target, the soldiers on duty have sabers sitting on their horses and can attract sizeable crowds
I had the application form for this in 1986 when I came out the British Army but something better/ better paid came along. No they weren't secret in fact I was recommended to try to join.
I live in Northern Ireland where ALL police are armed, this video doesn't scare me in the least 😂.
Magazines - she makes it sound like they’re carrying around editions of, “Hello!”
My sisters friend has just become part of the special police force in the Navel town we grew up in. So not only does he do all this, he does a lot of it at sea.
Jesus… I’m born and bred England and I’m 30. I’ve never seen a police officer with a gun. i’ve been pulled over and breathalised loads because i worked in a small village pub and they’d station a car at the top of the hill where you had to drive past. I got to know them quite well and they’d apologise when i was breathalised because id been doing it 2 years. If someone pulled me over like this i’d die inside. But yea this is what I personally think the Police in the USA would be like but worse. you said when they shoot, they shoot to “finish the job”.
You have no idea of the 'Shock and Awe' these guys project in a country when most adults have never seen a real gun with their own eyes let alone handled one. Unlike America where people are disrespectful of armed police over here these guys get immediate cooperation even if the regulars are rapidly loosing the faith of the people.
There is also the 'Special Branch' who are similar to these guys but mostly protect important people such as the monarchy or politicians. As an example, we have a couple of senior politicians living in our small rural village. They have panic buttons. A few years ago one of our politicians, a government minister, had a domestic argument with his wife, she threw a book at him and hit the panic button. Within minutes, all roads and footpaths into our rural village were sealed off by armed special branch officers, a real lockdown. The minister apologised to the police and all was well. But it just demonstrates the efficiency of these guys, unlike in America, they are invisible until needed.
Every police force in the UK has some armed offices... In the vast majority of cases they are only specific armed response units which are kind of like the US SWAT....
There are 2 forces which are always armed. The MOD police as shown and the CNC police who look after civilian nuclear infrastructure (power stations and related installations)
There are also some units of particular forces (mainly the metropolitan) who are all armed such as the Diplomatic protection unit, the special escorts group and similar units
But yes the regular everyday police don't carry conventional firearms, they all carry incapacetant PAVA spray and some cary tasers (both of which are regulated in the UK under firearms law)
These guys are ministry of defence and realistically just below MI5+6 national security.
Rarely seen highly trained for terrorism etc!!
Would you say, they're just above CTSFO, but below MI5/6?
@@spicybritishman857 Well the CTSFO are trained by the British Special Forces and hold the highest authorised firearms officer level in the national police firearms training curriculum, the MDP are trained as authorised firearms officers to but not at the same degree.
I read somewhere that the CTSFO will be bought up to if not already, the same standards as the SAS, this will lower the requirements of SAS being used domestically.
Where does this place them in the pecking order 🤷♂️ I’d assume the ones trained by special forces to be higher, but I could be wrong.
The Ministry of Defence Police are not the only fully armed force. There is also the Civil Nuclear Constabulary who look after Nuclear Power Stations and other civil nuclear facilities. These forces (along with the British Transport Police) are called non Home Office forces and can operate anywhere in the UK. Ordinary police forces in England and Wales are termed Home Office forces and come under the authority of the Home Secretary . Ordinary police in Scotland and Northern Ireland come under their respective devolved governments.
The reason they carry it between their legs, is because unlike American police who always carry a gun, uk armed police are called only when the situation may need armed support, so they know 100% they will have to use their gun, even if just by pointing it to intimidate.
You only see them driving with the guns ready when respinding to a call when not the guns are locked away in boot of vehicle and when call comes in they pull over and equip the guns then go
Look up the Royal Regiment of Artillery, including the King Troop Horse Artillery.
As well as Para Artillery and Commando Artillery, Air Defence Gunners and Field Gunners, or Reconnaissance Gunners .
Or the elite of the RRA, is 148 Forward Observation Battery (who are Para-Commando's / Special Forces) Gunners too.
The MoD Police, are not a secret Police unit, their job is to openly protect Ministry's of Defence Establishments, both conventional or nuclear bases.
The MoD Police, do not operate generally on the streets and roads of the UK, or in every UK Cities, or Towns or Villages and/or Rural Areas.
The local Police Forces, are responsible for policing of the General Public.
This includes each County or City Police Forces, has a number of its own Armed Trained Police Officers, for dealing with Armed Criminals and terrorists etc.
The MoD Police, has major limits what they can or cannot do off UK MoD Establishment and Bases.
Yes they can be called in to support, the local civilian Police, but this takes UK Government Ministers approval.
Both Defence Ministers and Home Office Ministers, plus more than likely Prime Minister approved too.
The MoD Police wear Blue Uniforms, or tactical clothing, just like American Civilian Police Officers and SWAT Officers.
They drive round in clearly marked MoD Police Vehicles, they are mostly weapon armed and trained.
Unlike most UK civilian Police Officers that is the only main difference.
The MoD Police, are no cloak and Dagger unit, many are ex British Military too.
The MoD Police, leave the Cloak and Dagger 🗡 jobs, to the likes of the SAS, or SBS, or E Squardon.
They are the real Cloak and Dagger Operatives, you never want to meet down a dark alley!
Or in the middle of a forest or jungle, or in the middle of the night in a desert and/or winter wildness either.
Or at sea on a commercial vessel or on an off-shore oil rig too, or trying to hijack a passenger aircraft, or carrying out a terrorist attack on an Embassy either!
Then you will find how lethal UK Special Forces Operators, real are and have been since the end of World War Twoo.
The UKSF are the Best in the World, second to No One!
Even the Americans Delta Force and Seal Team Six Operators, have to thank the British SAS and SBS, for showing even them the way too!
You missed the SRR. But then, that's the point - you were supposed to.
The MDP do not require ministerial approval before they assist the county police. They can give assistance on the request of a constable. They have full powers to deal with any incident they may come across that needs police intervention until the arrival of the local police who they will handover too and leave unless requested to stay.
There are multiple different UK Armed units in the UK Police
You have;
Traffic officer ( armed with tazer, baton and PAVA Spray )
The TFU ( Tactical Firearms Unit )
TSG ( Tactical Support Group )
SCO19 ( MET Police firearms unit )
CTSFO ( Counter Terrorist Specialist Firearms Officer )
MDP ( Civilian MOD force protection unit )
All PSNI officers ( Police Service Northern Ireland ) carry firearms
Any situations above what these units can handle is usually handed to the SFO of the military
The police in the US open carry a handgun (Glock most of the time) on a daliy basic.
These coppers are a diffrent branch.
The "reglular poilce" are unarmed peace keepers.
The armed police are still peace keepers but they are armed to takedown any threat
They are still not "elite"
But they get special training.
MDP are an extremely professional bunch.
i have never seen one of these cars so it shows how discreet they are
You've never noticed one.
When I visited Aldermaston there was a squaddie with a Sterling submachine gun generally pointing in my direction in the back of a land rover with two bench seats facing each other. I was not inclined to argue with him. Aldermaston is where they do the nuclear weapons research, at that time the Army provided site security. I was there to rectify a fault on some equipment in their laboratories.
The most unnerving part of the visit was the Geiger counter that was broadcast through the PA system in all the corridors, the constant ticking noise was quite surreal.
A colleague went to a USAF base in East Anglia when the USA kept nuclear weapons in the UK for much the same reason as my visit to Aldermaston. He asked an airman if he could proceed. The airman replied "If you advance and turn left then it is fine, sir. If you turn right then I shoot to kill."
Sometimes military units are used for specific situations Ryan. Specialist units exist for internal anti-terrorist operations for example.
There have also been times when full military intervention is implemented, like the SAS Peterhead prison raid.
If you're unaware who the SAS are, they pretty much established global special forces tactics. There's lot's of declassified content on here about their past operations.
My granda was in the SAS before it was the SAS. It was the Malaysian Scouts back then. I think that's so cool.
@@karencalder8540 My great grandfather was a Coldstream Guard. The guy was huge, had to duck his head going through doorways. I didn't find out where he served until years after he'd passed away.
My grandfather was a Royal Engineer. He went to the grave without ever fully revealing what he was involved in during WW2. After he died I asked my grandmother for details, she told me all she knew was that he was somewhere in Scotland working on submarine research and development.
My great uncle was a Desert Rat in Northern Africa. He told me some unpleasant stories and made me vow to stand up against fascism if it ever gained popularity again.
Your relatives and mine were truly amazing people, alongside every person that serves today.
I heard recently that the SBS had been training Ukrainian units. I'm proud that our special forces are still the best in the world :)
You can tell armed response in u.k. by the red asterisk above the badge on the cars
The ex-Royal Navy Firearms Instructor talks about the difference in Rules of Engagement between them and the military. He’s off-point. As a police officer he will only ever shoot to save life or prevent serious injury. In other words, self-defence and the defence of others in the vicinity. A soldier on the other hand may be operating on any number of Rules of Engagements up to and including ‘Fire at Will’ or ‘Weapons Free’. ( Not exact wording of the Brit ROE but easier to understand.) This means a soldier can shoot and kill anyone he suspects of being ‘the enemy’ even if there is an absence of direct, or even implied, threat. It all depends on his RoE. That’s why Brit military are issued small cards as a guide - to look at when bored, not in the heat of battle! A soldier’s RoE can change by the hour and he always needs to be aware of which one he is operating under. From self-defence only all the way through to ‘shoot on sight’.
The police have no more right to shoot anyone in Britain than an ordinary civilian has placed in a similar situation. Self-defence/preservation of life. It’s a simple equation.
Don’t pretend you have to be some sort of threat-assessment super computer that puts you above the military (clown).
British armed police don't just work for the MOD they also work with the normal police forces. The MOD have their own police force called MP's, Even the train network has it's own police force BTP (British transport police). If something happens that the Armed police can't deal with the army gets a call and special forces (S.A.S) turn up it sort it. Unless it's at sea then the navy get called and (S.B.S) turn up.
MDP & another police agency called the Civil Nuclear Constabulary " are trained as AFO which is the basic level to carry firearms
The Home Office forces all have units more like SWAT in the USA doing everything up to hostage rescue & close protection see if you can find a video about our CTSFOs.
I think you would enjoy- Celebrity SAS . Be great to see you react to it. You're great, have learnt a lot about my country through you x
Love the way you film in the baby’s room 😄 But obviously this is NOT just a traffic stop.
The regular police do have fire arms, they have specially trained officers that patrol in cars and units that respond to major incidents that are life threating
You seem to have a misperception about UK police, Every Police force has Armed Response Units which supplement Unarmed Police Officers. The MDP purely protect MOD assets within the UK so it is not common to come across them unless they are escorting sensitive materials.
I live in the uk where they build the nuclear submarines we see this when they are transporting stuff from one site to another i can see the top of the dry Dock hall from my bedroom window where they are built.
People need to see what police are doing in the UK today.
You see these lads and lasses sat in their cars around my Town Center, they definitely look the bizz..
American cops need to take note instead of mag dumping people in their own home
There is something about 50 calibre being dotted around the country incase something armoured turns up.
Aye ! I had no idea these chaps existed. I`ve seen heavily armed police knocking about at one or two London airports - and wouldn`t be surprised if they kept a presence at Manchester Airport.
They do and in Scotland too.
Shootouts very rare in the UK thankfully. We tend to leave that to Hollywood and the US where there are seemingly millions of guns randomly scattered around the country
we have armed police all over. lots drive about and are called arv armed response vehicles. if you go to financial district of london they all have handguns. airports usually have armed police waliking around with dogs too
They are called Civil Nuclear Constabulary (CNC), they guard the nuclear power stations and patrol the surrounding areas and can stop cars acting suspicious and arrest for law offences unrelated to the power sites such as possession of stolen copper pipes, carrying an offensive weapon (knife, gun, machete etc.). They are different to the police SWAT team that are armed and carry out raids along side the regular police force. These are police that are defending nuclear power stations anyways, think they might be a different branch to police defending weapons of war.
The police in the UK are more armed than most people realise. I think that the big distinction is that police officers in the UK will usually not carry firearms on their person although they will have things like tazers.
Although the regular police that patrol in vans or walk the beat do not carry firearms, the rapid response units who drive around in the big SUVs do, however they are secured in a gun safe in the vehicle unless needed.
Police cars with small dayglow orange or gold star symbols or circles on them, usually in the top corners of the windscreen, the back window, and the rearmost side window have firearms on board and the police officers inside are trained firearms officers.
The police vehicle seen from behind with its blue lights on at 1:28 has one of these stickers visible in the top right hand corner of it's back window.
You will usually find these vehicles parked up in prominent places in Britain's city centres such as public squares, outside railway stations or near shopping centres so they are easily spotted by folks who know what they are but at the same time remain inconspicuous and completely unnoticed by people who don't.
We don't have "secret police" we have dedicated "Arms response Units" in each force which differs from that MOD Police as seen in this program.
Ahhhh good ol MOD PLOD.
I wonder what the American police who guard critical installations are like (probably have humvees or tanks).