So I got this bike recently and I will say its different when carrying a load or a passenger. It just feels very wobbly when starting and stopping. It takes a second to get used it.
I own a XP trike I agree that the bar system is poor, however if you use the battery volt by scroll though the bottom part of the screen it's very good
Many years ago I bought a folding 24v sealed lead acid battery e-bike and I quite enjoyed it what ended it was the folding stem. The handlebars snapped off and I went down. I did hurt myself but not permanently but I left the broken bike somewhere in Vancouver and when I went back the next day yeah it was disappeared. I really like the concept of this e-bike. I’m in Canada so the prices you give might be double for me here after shipping and taxes and exchange rates, mostly cuz I’m in Newfoundland now. Both coasts have their hill issues, but if I’m going to buy one, why not one I can bring my camping gear, do a little fishing
My Huffy Lavilion foldable bike has been robbed right from a restaurant entrance. This is wild. Less then in a minute in a Centre of Calgary. Can't believe it.
I like that you actually do testing on bikes. Other channels just read the specs and show mostly bland riding footage. Your test course is a very nice hill challenge. That said, seems like your statement that your range is less then the manufacturer claim may be due to your tested method. Electric was good in stating their testing conditions and your rider test weight seemed maybe 50lbs heavier with possible other variations in tested but your did not explicitly state other testing conditions.
@user-hy1dy2tp8z not so strange when you consider this post was in the beginning of my search for good reviews of the XPedition before purchasing one. Eventually I did find more good reviews and had enough info to make a decision.
Our Lectric struggled with hills. In fact it blew up. Maybe we got a dud. Also range was way off. This was with a large rider and hills. I’ve noticed hills eat up batteries on ebikes. Flat ground you can go for what seems like forever.
With Specialized’s Globe cargo bike entering the field, it’ll be interesting to see how it’s performs compared to the likes of Aventon, Radpower, and Lectric
How do you think this bike would handle on gravel and dirt roads? I am interested in converting one to a bike-packing bike but only if it will be decent off the pavement.
On hardpack trails, you should be fine with some knobby tires. I wouldn't take a cargo bike onto a black diamond or off-road trail that you need to hop over logs or bumps that can get the long wheel base stuck.
It probably makes the tail wag until you get accustomed to the extra mass in the rear and you learn to counterbalance it. Before I placed my toddler in a rack-mounted seat, I placed a bag of gravel of similar weight in it. I learned how to adjust how I ride to eliminate the sway in only a couple miles.
You need keys to remove the batteries, not to insert them. But, you can simply power on the bike if a battery is installed and ride off if it’s not secured with locks. There is no way to secure it with a password from the display.
If you were going to choose between the Lectric Xpedition and the Aventon Abound, which would you choose given this scenario: Living in a small city where you will always be going up and down hills, in a city that is plagued with rough, unkept streets…. But Wanting the most versatility. I love the suspension and torque sensor on the abound, but I love that the Xpedition can carry a full sized person on the back. Is one a more comfortable ride than the other? How do they compare on rougher streets? Could either accept more aggressive tires for winter? I am 5’7”. Thanks for any thoughts!
You can get a seat post suspension and a seat with built in suspension. I have a juiced ripcurrent s and my gf has the expedition. Expedition definitely shakes you a bit more but either stand up over the bumps or get a cloud 9 seat w/ suspension + the seat post with integrated suspension and you'll be gucci. Arms will still shake though, but you can just hold the bars loose. Technically speaking you could try to get an aftermarket fork with suspension but you'd be responsible for research, installation, etc
The ride is harsh despite the 3in tires. The frame is very rigid and so is the fork. It costs more, but the new RadPowerBike RadWagon 5 is worth a look. They shortened it to a mid-tail, similar to the XPedition and Abound, put a stronger motor (90 or 100Nm at peak 750W vs 80Nm peak at 1310W), use a sturdy suspension fork and can be set to class 1, 2, 3 (25mph) or 3 (28mph) - some places cap class 3 at 25mph vs the national 28mph. The RadWagon and Abound use a torque sensor, but the RadWagon comes stock with a throttle, The Abound is capped to 20mph top assisted speed and you can add a throttle.
Pretty sure they were tight. It's something we feel on nearly all of these collapsable stems. It has a little more play to it than a solid piece does. It's nothing unmanageable, but it is noticeable.
If I raise my hands slightly off the grips, there is a little wobble. I never ride hands-free on this bike because it wants to oversteer hard very quickly once you initiate a turn. I think there is too little trail in the head-tube & fork geometry. Makes it more nimble but less steady.
Nice review. I'd like to suggest another tests. The stair test! Carry the bike up and down a flight of stairs. You could do it with an average man or two. You could do two trips ...one for the batteries and seat, and the second trip for the unloaded bike. I live in a second floor apartment and wonder if I could carry it up and down the stairs every time I need to use it. I'm currently doing so with the 65lb Engwe EP-2 Pro because the handle bar in front of the seat post makes it so easy. When I remove the seat and lift the bike with one hand the bike balances really well
I agree only problem is getting delivery for the ebike. Its been over 3 month since we laid out the money, no problem taking our money. Except charged our card 3 times causing us to contact bank and having the account put on hold for two weeks we while the bank checked things out we could not get to our money so had pay checks deposited to another account so we could operagte from day to day. Then we find out the location the ebike is located at which is only two hours from our house. Its been there for a month. Lectric contacted them on 4 different occasions and they gave delivery dates for which they failed to deliver. Tell Levi that his shipping really sucks. We still have not been delivered the ebike and accessories we bough for roughly $2700. A lot of money for me. Hope i dont have to contact State Attorney Generals office and report ythem. One other person contacted me with similiar problems
Not on the adult seat in the video, but they have several accessories that allow you to grab onto with your hands. They have an a cage that can completely surround your waist, and another handlebar option that attaches to the back of the rider seat for the passenger to hold. Additionally, if you have kids, they have special kid seats that do have seatbelts I believe.
Only two things should have been added: How far does it go on THROTTLE ONLY for PAS1 and PAS5. Also, how well does it do on off-road/dirt trails. But great video otherwise!
You mention that the weight capacity is 330 lbs between rider and passenger/cargo, but it is advertised as being able to carry 450 lbs total with rider and cargo? So which is it?
@@JAMMER1040According to the website, The bike's total capacity is 450 lbs for rider and passenger/cargo combined. However, the limit for the rider only is 330 lbs (The rear rack weight limit is 300 lbs).
AIPAS is one of the manufacturer’s (Globe) own brands. Some of the bikes they make sure look like Lectric models, especially the cargo and trike and XP Lite and XP. The cargo bike uses different batteries, including one in the downtube, and has a suspension fork, but the rear rack tubing looks identical. Their trike looks like a twin to Lectric’s, except it packs a whopping 130Nm of torque, and costing a lot more.
Nice review. It appears that you were going 19 or 20 miles and hour on a pathway with pedestrians and even small children. I hope you'll change that practice to drive pass pedestrians and small children at no greater than 10 miles and hour. That would be safer and make it so we all can continue to ride green ways and pedestrian paths.
No I want to go fast. Yes I do want to know how far it goes without you making fun of my question. I'll decide what safe for me. I just wanted the factual review of the bike and not your opinion.
someone needs to do a video getting groceries with this
I would like to see it's performance. Pushing for one this christmas😊
So I got this bike recently and I will say its different when carrying a load or a passenger. It just feels very wobbly when starting and stopping. It takes a second to get used it.
I own a XP trike I agree that the bar system is poor, however if you use the battery volt by scroll though the bottom part of the screen it's very good
Many years ago I bought a folding 24v sealed lead acid battery e-bike and I quite enjoyed it what ended it was the folding stem. The handlebars snapped off and I went down. I did hurt myself but not permanently but I left the broken bike somewhere in Vancouver and when I went back the next day yeah it was disappeared. I really like the concept of this e-bike. I’m in Canada so the prices you give might be double for me here after shipping and taxes and exchange rates, mostly cuz I’m in Newfoundland now. Both coasts have their hill issues, but if I’m going to buy one, why not one I can bring my camping gear, do a little fishing
My Huffy Lavilion foldable bike has been robbed right from a restaurant entrance. This is wild. Less then in a minute in a Centre of Calgary. Can't believe it.
Love seeing this bike in my native St. George neighborhood! Great vid and great review!
Thanks! 👍
Best ebike review channel
Glad you think so!
I like that you actually do testing on bikes. Other channels just read the specs and show mostly bland riding footage. Your test course is a very nice hill challenge.
That said, seems like your statement that your range is less then the manufacturer claim may be due to your tested method. Electric was good in stating their testing conditions and your rider test weight seemed maybe 50lbs heavier with possible other variations in tested but your did not explicitly state other testing conditions.
@user-hy1dy2tp8z not so strange when you consider this post was in the beginning of my search for good reviews of the XPedition before purchasing one. Eventually I did find more good reviews and had enough info to make a decision.
Our Lectric struggled with hills. In fact it blew up. Maybe we got a dud. Also range was way off. This was with a large rider and hills. I’ve noticed hills eat up batteries on ebikes. Flat ground you can go for what seems like forever.
With Specialized’s Globe cargo bike entering the field, it’ll be interesting to see how it’s performs compared to the likes of Aventon, Radpower, and Lectric
The first thing the Globe ST/HT will perform is excess wallet extraction of cash at 2800/3500usd. The specs look ok but nothing special.
How do you think this bike would handle on gravel and dirt roads? I am interested in converting one to a bike-packing bike but only if it will be decent off the pavement.
On hardpack trails, you should be fine with some knobby tires. I wouldn't take a cargo bike onto a black diamond or off-road trail that you need to hop over logs or bumps that can get the long wheel base stuck.
Currently watching the review. How does it handle with an adult in the backseat?
I’m curious to know too
It probably makes the tail wag until you get accustomed to the extra mass in the rear and you learn to counterbalance it. Before I placed my toddler in a rack-mounted seat, I placed a bag of gravel of similar weight in it. I learned how to adjust how I ride to eliminate the sway in only a couple miles.
Any word about selling this ebike in Europe, as I live in the UK, this would be a great choice for me.
Let's see a real world expedition on this bike.
Does this bike come with any security features such as a key to toggle main power? Also, do the batteries lock in place to prevent theft?
You need keys to remove the batteries, not to insert them.
But, you can simply power on the bike if a battery is installed and ride off if it’s not secured with locks. There is no way to secure it with a password from the display.
I love my Lectric XPedition❤
If you were going to choose between the Lectric Xpedition and the Aventon Abound, which would you choose given this scenario: Living in a small city where you will always be going up and down hills, in a city that is plagued with rough, unkept streets…. But Wanting the most versatility. I love the suspension and torque sensor on the abound, but I love that the Xpedition can carry a full sized person on the back. Is one a more comfortable ride than the other? How do they compare on rougher streets? Could either accept more aggressive tires for winter? I am 5’7”. Thanks for any thoughts!
Same question I’m looking into both. With lack of suspension on the xpedition I do wonder if the abound is smoother.
You can get a seat post suspension and a seat with built in suspension. I have a juiced ripcurrent s and my gf has the expedition. Expedition definitely shakes you a bit more but either stand up over the bumps or get a cloud 9 seat w/ suspension + the seat post with integrated suspension and you'll be gucci. Arms will still shake though, but you can just hold the bars loose.
Technically speaking you could try to get an aftermarket fork with suspension but you'd be responsible for research, installation, etc
The ride on this beast is harsh. I might check on a suspended seat.
The ride is harsh despite the 3in tires. The frame is very rigid and so is the fork.
It costs more, but the new RadPowerBike RadWagon 5 is worth a look. They shortened it to a mid-tail, similar to the XPedition and Abound, put a stronger motor (90 or 100Nm at peak 750W vs 80Nm peak at 1310W), use a sturdy suspension fork and can be set to class 1, 2, 3 (25mph) or 3 (28mph) - some places cap class 3 at 25mph vs the national 28mph. The RadWagon and Abound use a torque sensor, but the RadWagon comes stock with a throttle, The Abound is capped to 20mph top assisted speed and you can add a throttle.
I can't find any other reviews that hint of any high speed wobbles. Wondering if stem and wheels were tight? Thank you
Pretty sure they were tight. It's something we feel on nearly all of these collapsable stems. It has a little more play to it than a solid piece does. It's nothing unmanageable, but it is noticeable.
If I raise my hands slightly off the grips, there is a little wobble. I never ride hands-free on this bike because it wants to oversteer hard very quickly once you initiate a turn. I think there is too little trail in the head-tube & fork geometry. Makes it more nimble but less steady.
I would love it if they deliver to Germany
Nice review. I'd like to suggest another tests. The stair test! Carry the bike up and down a flight of stairs. You could do it with an average man or two. You could do two trips ...one for the batteries and seat, and the second trip for the unloaded bike.
I live in a second floor apartment and wonder if I could carry it up and down the stairs every time I need to use it. I'm currently doing so with the 65lb Engwe EP-2 Pro because the handle bar in front of the seat post makes it so easy. When I remove the seat and lift the bike with one hand the bike balances really well
I agree only problem is getting delivery for the ebike. Its been over 3 month since we laid out the money, no problem taking our money. Except charged our card 3 times causing us to contact bank and having the account put on hold for two weeks we while the bank checked things out we could not get to our money so had pay checks deposited to another account so we could operagte from day to day. Then we find out the location the ebike is located at which is only two hours from our house. Its been there for a month. Lectric contacted them on 4 different occasions and they gave delivery dates for which they failed to deliver. Tell Levi that his shipping really sucks. We still have not been delivered the ebike and accessories we bough for roughly $2700. A lot of money for me. Hope i dont have to contact State Attorney Generals office and report ythem. One other person contacted me with similiar problems
I live in California and I got mines a couple weeks ago. It took about 5 days to get here
Good review and I think I am going to pull the trigger on this one but you keep calling it a folding E Bike and it's not a folding e bike, LOL.
The frame doesn't fold, but since the steering stem folds they can classify it as a folding bike.
It’s surprising how just folding down the handlebars and taking off the pedals improves the storability of this beast.
Does the extra seat have a seat belt in case you brake suddenly?
Not on the adult seat in the video, but they have several accessories that allow you to grab onto with your hands. They have an a cage that can completely surround your waist, and another handlebar option that attaches to the back of the rider seat for the passenger to hold. Additionally, if you have kids, they have special kid seats that do have seatbelts I believe.
Who makes lectric batteries? Do clip on panniers fit on back rack frame?
Is there a way to raise the back rack so my passenger is flush with me & a more stylish seat for an adult passenger please?
No, but you can probably attach a seat riser. Make sure you build and attach it all sturdily.
What was ghr time for the hill test? Never said it in the section...
Best review channel on UA-cam. Great bike. Delivery was tough to watch/listen to. Suggest more retakes or editing.😢#fluency
Only two things should have been added: How far does it go on THROTTLE ONLY for PAS1 and PAS5. Also, how well does it do on off-road/dirt trails. But great video otherwise!
can this be unlocked to a class 3 e bike?
You mention that the weight capacity is 330 lbs between rider and passenger/cargo, but it is advertised as being able to carry 450 lbs total with rider and cargo? So which is it?
Then later in the clip you state that it can carry 450 lbs... again... confusing . Which is it... 330 or 450?
@@JAMMER1040According to the website, The bike's total capacity is 450 lbs for rider and passenger/cargo combined.
However, the limit for the rider only is 330 lbs (The rear rack weight limit is 300 lbs).
Is there a way to have rear wheel drive, front wheel drive & dual wheel drive?
the website says 450 lbs rider + cargo capacity. but you said 350 lbs total. why?
We might have misspoken, but the bike has a 450lb payload capacity with up to 300 lbs on the rear rack and up to a 330-lb rider. Hope that helps!
Has anyone tested the throttle only range of this bike?
Commercials was RIDICULOUS
I’ve had this bike several weeks.
This is a serious bike. Not a toy e-bike to go down to the coffee shop on Saturday. This is a cross country bike.
....??? Cross country bike? What makes you think that?
Their website lists the bike as Class 3.
Can be set to class 1, 2 or 3 but ships from the plant as a class 2.
Letric time catching up to them other bike companies are stepping up forget this bike look at the APIAS A 6 DUEL ITS BETTER THAN LETRIC 😊
AIPAS is one of the manufacturer’s (Globe) own brands. Some of the bikes they make sure look like Lectric models, especially the cargo and trike and XP Lite and XP. The cargo bike uses different batteries, including one in the downtube, and has a suspension fork, but the rear rack tubing looks identical. Their trike looks like a twin to Lectric’s, except it packs a whopping 130Nm of torque, and costing a lot more.
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Just bought lectric expedition .. battery draining rapidly .. in first 10 miles .. I lose 50% of the battery!!!
Single battery? How much throttle/PAS 5 usage?
@@ElectricBikeReport pas 2 dual battery
Nice review. It appears that you were going 19 or 20 miles and hour on a pathway with pedestrians and even small children. I hope you'll change that practice to drive pass pedestrians and small children at no greater than 10 miles and hour. That would be safer and make it so we all can continue to ride green ways and pedestrian paths.
No I want to go fast. Yes I do want to know how far it goes without you making fun of my question. I'll decide what safe for me. I just wanted the factual review of the bike and not your opinion.
What’s the max distance between the passenger seat handle bars???