M2 Pro, 32GB, 2 TB ..and yeah... even the better processor. Crazily insane high price but I expect a super performant machine which is not too loud even under heavy load. Can tell next week how this works for me.
Gotta say man, don’t be too hard on yourself bc you’re one of my favorite watches. Of course I follow the LTT and MKBHDs of the world, but your videos always feel like a real person assessing products for real use cases. Keep it up man
It was great to hear about your thoughts when buying them. I'm curious about M1 vs M2 Mini and whether the A) the BT issue is still there and B) the NAND chip hampers day to day performance. With the Pro, I'm curious as to whether with more ports, you can get away without a hub or is that still a Mac Mini essential. Also, would be great if you reviewed or spoke about a range of monitors you can buy (Apple and not Apple) to pair with them.
Everyone is doing reviews of the M2 8GB/256 base model or the Mac Mini Pro. No one is doing reviews of the Base model 16GB/256 version. We all know now the 256gb version is half as slow as the 512 version on read/wrote speeds, but how fast is the 16GB version with still 256ssd? Does it improve performance like the 512ssd does? If you could only upgrade one thing for performance increase on the base model, should it be ram or ssd?
I got the base model M2 mac mini and i added an ssd card via usb4 and it’s perfect for me. i am a part time sound engineer, I play the keyboard, i am a college student, and i just love trying new things, so this was perfect for me 😅
I bought the M2 pro with 16gb and a 1TB ssd drive for 4 reasons. I owned a 2015 iMac I5 that was getting very slow. 1st I wanted something that could possibly last a little longer. 2nd I play guitar and am doing recording. 3rd I’m a amateur photographer and can’t stand the wait while processing RAW photos. The faster the better. 4th I wanted as many USB ports as possible. I am using all the ports plus a couple on An extra hub. I probably could have gotten away with the regular M2, but wanted the speed, flexibility, and as much longevity as i could get.
I would love to see a comparison between an M2 Mac mini with 512gb and 16gb ram vs the base model m2 pro Mac mini… I’m tossing up between the two and not sure what to order 😅
I'm a muso and feel very left out of the discussion about the M2 series and usefulness/specs for Logic, virtual instruments, etc. So I'm glad that in some way you will be able to give me an idea of what I can expect of the new generation - and hopefully not in comparison with the M1 but as a stand alone experience. Because of their reliability and continuing usefulness, like a lot of people I'm shifting from Macs many more than 1 or 2 generations ago. I have a (still very functional) 2010 macbook Pro 17", and even a quite capable 2007 cheesegrater (for 32bit driven music hardware) and so videos about improvement over the M1 are absolutely redundant for me.
Moving a piece of data takes time and energy. If you shorten the distance to move that data, e.g. from 5 to 3 nano-meters it will be done with less time and energy - it's like driving a car 3 or 5 miles in the same speed - shorter distance means less time and gas. This is not the entire truth, but it's a kind of visual way to look at it and grasping the benefits of shrinking the size of the components in a chip. I think that still 3 nm (0.000 000 003 mm) is referring to the thickness of the "wire" (the silicone lead) between two components in the chip.
I do just UA-cam and currently I edit on the m1 MacBook Air base… it struggles as i knew it would. But I think even though the pro is tempting I will go with the m2 .Mac mini 24GB 1TB. Unfortunately there’s no real comparison with an a lil bit better m2 to the m2 pro… would be nice seeing that
I think I will wait for the Mac Studio upgrade , hopefully this year . :)) I need a Mac Mini M2 pro with 32 Gb of Ram and 2 Tb ....Then I realize the price is too close to the Mac Studio , therefore I rather wait for the Mac Studio upgrade hopefully this year .
I am currently using 2019 MacBook Pro with Intel i9 2.3GHz 8 core, 32GB RAM and 1 TB SSD. I am not digital content creator and I am not doing any video editing. My work predominantly need multiple apps with multiple browsers run on the machine. Therefore the RAM utilisation usually range around 26GB to 28 GB. With this current workload, I confuse which Mac mini M2 or M2 pro best suit for me? 1. Should I choose Mac mini M2 with 16GB RAM and 1 TB SSD? Or, 2. Should I choose Mac mini M2 with 24 GB RAM and 1 TB SSD? Or, 3. Should I choose Mac Mini M2 Pro (base CPU) with 16GB RAM and 1 TB SSD? Or, 4. Should I choose Mac Mini M2 Pro (base CPU) with 32GB RAM and 1 TB SSD?
Would love to see the M2 Mac Mini Pro base model get reviewed 😀 I think once you start upgrading the Mini Pro with 32gb Ram etc it’s almost the same price as the Mac Studio. Apart from upgrading the storage to 1tb I think the base Mac Mini Pro is the best value for money.
I'd be interested to see how the battery life on the 14 inch is for you. I had the fully specced M1 14 inch and it was a BEAST but the battery life was horrible.
Love your material and delivery style. Keep it up. I am a boring accountant and the only heavy duty stuff I do is run a windows 11 virtual machine via parallels. Seems to burn up memory quickly. I am wondering if the M2 is any different.
I want to see how the performance is for the normal everyday user (no heavy content creation, just web browsing using Chrome and Safari with max tabs open, Music listening, movie watching, some office documents/spreadsheets etc...) between M1/M2/M2Pro - on the MacMini - is the noticeable difference in that use-case performance or $$$ AND is it worth getting the Pro if ONLY to futureproof the purchase - Great video - I am now a subscriber 100%
Get the M2 Pro Mini be great to see how that goes as a Studio and/or media machine as for the MacBook Pro I’d save your cash and send it straight back and wait see what comes up in later 2023 and then 2024 with M3 SoCs
If you want a higher end desktop then you should probably wait for the M2 based mac studio that will surely drop this year. Rather silly to get a speced up mac mini if you're looking for a pro user computer. Mac mini is suppose to be entry level. I'm convinced they only offer the speced up version to entice impatient people.
For most musicians, the M2 Mac Mini with 16GB of RAM and 512GB SSD is all you need for your professional music production, mixing, mastering and other and studio work like podcasting, and video editing.... however, If you are doing complex video production work or you work with CAD files and or are an architect, structural engineer doing a lot of design work, don't bother with any of the Mac Mini configurations... get you a Mac Studio with at least 64GB and 2TB storage or build yourself a PC with some formidable processor and graphics card.
I already have an M1 Ultra Mac Studio, so will not be getting an M2 Pro Mac Mini (ugh marketing). However, had I waited, I'd get the M2 Pro Mac Mini with the $2599 config, with the 32GB, 2TB, and best CPU/GPU available. Not because I'm an actual "pro" user, but because I'd want this thing to last and be very useful for years to come. Will I get the M3 Studio? Dunno, depends on if I'm even alive when it comes out (health issues).
I just bought an M2pro Mini 10/16 16gb 1tb. Moving up from an i7-7700 3.6ghz w/32gb ram. It will be here in a week. I'm expecting to be impressed. Music/video production is my aim. Did I get the right one?
Nobody should buy the cheap "pro" when Apple are once again putting in the poor performance components to save them a few cents. Buy with at least 1TByte ssd (4 nand instead of only 2) or you will get poorer transfer rates. You will likely also burn out the ssd chips like on the first M1. The good thing about mcmini is that you don't risk another keyboard gate or display burnin gate.
Why don't you get an M1 Max 14" until the M3s are released? Should be able to find some good deals now! Then you can at least save your back for another year ;-) And... you'll be ready to decide if you want a 14" or 16" M3!
Content creators I fell with the new releases should not purchase anything less than the M2 Pro versions with at least 16GB unified memory, and 1TB SSD Storage.
I think if you're going to talk about Mac Mini then stick with it. It gets a bit much when jumping around between Minis and MacBooks. My 2 cents' worth but otherwise great video(s)
Mark, I'm really looking for a comparison between similarly specced M2 Mac mini Pro and the M1 Max Mac Studio. I'm in a bit of a quandary right now wondering if the M1 Mac Studio is a good purchase of if to hold out for an M2 version. Thanks.
Things I'd like to know: 1. Is the M2 Pro worth considering over the M2 in terms of "future proofing"? I'm leaning towards the Pro mainly because of the extra ports even though I probably don't need the extra power, but would like another reason to spend the extra money! 2. How quiet or otherwise are these Minis? Can you hear the fan?
The mini computers are very quiet. The pro will spin its fans sometimes but the regular m2 is basically silent. As for the ports, if that is the only reason you want the m2pro, just buy a dock designed for the mini for about $80-$100. Spend what you save on the 1TB drive M2 rather than letting extra power go to waste. I am editing multiple 4K streams of video on the regular M2. The pro is only worthy is you are a pro and will earn money with it.
I keep looking at all of these new Macs, but I literally cannot justify upgrading from my base version M1 MacBook Air. Just cannot fault it. If anything, the only Mac I'll be looking at getting is a refurbed version of the M1 Mac Mini you've got with the 16gb RAM and 512 SSD, so I can just keep my M1 MacBook Air in my bag when I get in, instead of plugging it into my desktop set up. With regards to your conundrum (once reviews have been carried out) ... perhaps keep with your original plan of using the M1 Mac Mini for music production, send the M2 Mac Mini back and replace it with the M2 Pro Mac Mini, and use that for production work at your desk, and keep the 14 inch M2 Max MacBook Pro as your laptop. Then sell the 16 inch M1 version, your M2 MacBook Air and M1 iMac to top the bank balance back up a bit.
i was going to get the mimi pro specked out but for £200 more i can get a studio with 2tb storage and double the ram and more graphics so think im going studio now as the reviews on mac mini pro dont seem great, long wait though 16 to 20 weeks wait as its a CEO order.
Yep, i’m not impressed either. I have got numerous Apple products over the years having spent what must be thousands - and I bought my first ever Mac, the Mini M1, from my music studio just before Christmas - and because of the embargo I wasn’t tipped off about an imminent new model - and here I am two months later where I could’ve got the M2 version for the same price. Not happy. Really naughty, sly Apple.
M2 pro mini. M2 pro studio, m1 macbook air,, m2 max macbook pro or whatever.. who the hell comes up with these names? Really stupid naming scheme. Can't even figure out what the hell is being compared. Just name them like the old time, M210. M220, m230 or something, what a freaking mess.
The Studio is a better buy when compared to a fully loaded M2 Pro Mac mini. I got a "maxed out" M2 Pro Mini with all of the above, but bumped up the SSD to 1TB which improves IO even more. I also have a couple Mac Studios (a base model and an almost fully loaded one with 1 TB of SSD). You have to be very careful when selecting the SSD on any Apple product since it often has a disproportionate effect on performance. There are specific reasons to get a beefed up M2 Pro Mini, but if you know the box is staying put, then get the M1 Max Studio base model with 1 TB of SSD since that will bring your disk IO up to 5GB/s and provide an extra 20% performance boost over a fully load M2 Pro Mini. As soon as you raise the memory on a Mini to 32GB, you have to ask yourself why you're not opting for an M1 Max Studio. The answer in my case was that I needed something even more portable than a Max Studio for live gigs and travel to difficult locations. The only other good reason I can think of choosing a Mini over a Studio is if you absolutely need HDMI 2.1 support.
Hi Mark, The videos I've seen so far indicate about a 20% uptick in performance. Not a bad jump. What I cannot get over it that Apple in their infinite wisdom only uses a single Nand chip in their base model Mac Mini and the base model 14" Macbook Pro. I'm not certain about the 16" yet. I find that unfathomable in 2022 that they would hobble these machines for the sake of saving a few dollars in parts. This is one of those "What was Tim and crew thinking" moments. Definately interested in the Mac Mini Pro (which does not suffer from the Nand chip issue, by the way). Looking forward to that video in particular and your take on that machine.
The base model M2 Mac Mini Pro also suffers from the NAND chip issue. You have to upgrade to 1TB to get the equivalent SSD speeds the previous models got.
I'd like to see the comparison, as the combination of basic m2 with 16gb ram isn't really reviewed. I also would like to see a stress test of the system and it's loudness, as I can't stand any computer noises. :)
I am not in particular interested in rendering time comparisons. It would be interesting to me for you to compare your normal daily usage with them. Maybe a different comparison - such as responsiveness. Maybe look at Apple's "Quilt" of new features and see if one of them in particular catches you eye - depending on what you do with your Macs.
Not hugely interested - Apple said they're about 20% faster, so I can do my own maths on that one. I say that as an M1Pro user so I've no real reason to upgrade.
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Yes, this vid was made for me. I don't have an m1 mac mini, but I'm still curious to see the difference. My primary use case scenario is for music production so I'll be most likely going for an m2 pro mac mini config as much as I'd rather see the base mac mini m2 fit my needs. Regardless of the difference between the base m2 mac mini and the M1 equivalent, I'd still be interested to see how the base m2 mac mini holds up under ever increasing demands- be it in a music production scenario or a video editing one. I think any combo of comparison tests is interesting. Thanks for the content.
My M1 Max 14 inch MacBook Pro is built like yours I think. 32gb ram, 32 GPU, 2 tb SSD. I don't allow final cut to background render and I use better quality and I never get hiccups. I love it
What I'd love to see is a comparison between the M2 24GB 1TB and the M2 Pro 16GB 1TB which retail at approximately the same price, with an emphasis on music production. Is it best to have the base M2 with more RAM or the Pro version with less RAM?
@@JohnwFOC I know where you're coming from, but as I said, it's for music production, so I don't care for GPU power - thus the Mac Studio is overkill for me. I am leaning towards a base mode M2 Pro Mac mini which retails at around £1399 (£600 less than the base mode Mac Studio) and offers similar if not better CPU performance.
Hi Mark. I’m thinking the Mac Mini with M2 Pro chip as well. I can’t decide if I should get the base model at the store, or spec it up. 16GB works well for me, so 32GB is more of a want than a need. Same with storage.
Right now I'm torn between an M2 Mini spec'd to 16GB and 512 or TB vs an M2Pro Mini with the same specs. I'd love to see a direct comparison between the two.
I am thinking of buying the M2 with 16 gb and 512 SSD. I would love you to to test the HECK out of that while you have it. Test it pleaseee...Does it handle everything an ordinary user can throw at it? is it good for someone just getting into photo editing or video editing? Could it work for the student doing all those things on occasion, or the family ?
Interesting comments, so thank you. As a result of your comments just been looking at M1 16gb on Ebay - often going for similar prices to new M2 units. As I am looking at this 'toy' for video editing for submission to the police, I suspect 16gb is better than 8gb for either M1 or M2?
In around 1988 I bought a Schneider PC/AT 10 MHz for around £700. It had a none standard slower 20 Mb hard disk which is why it was so cheap. It had on board EGA graphics. It revolutionised my gaming and word processing. It wasn't a proprietary system such as the Amiga where the base system was cheap but every upgrade cost a fortune. Over the next three years I upgraded to a 50 Mb hard disk, bought a VGA card and monitor and a bought a higher capacity floppy disk drive. Modern Macs are even more restrictive than Amiga's were in 1988. You cant upgrade your storage for any money no matter how much you pay. A Mac Studio with a single plug in 512 Gb flash module cannot have a second one fitted even though this would be a simple plug in option. Linus Tech bought two 512 Gb Mac Studios but found that something in the firmware stopped the 512 Gb flash module from one being used to upgrade the other. Apple's only upgrade path is to buy a completely new system. The cost of extra flash or RAM chips in one of these "upgraded" systems costs around ten times the cost of the chips themselves.
I have a 2014 256Ssd/ 16Gb and run Parallels with Win10 for old 32 but programs I use. Considering M2 256/16 and Parallels Win11, would luv to see Parallels on the new M2 Mm.
Here’s an idea , annoyances, like for example buying a Mac Studio Pro and not having thunderbolt ports in the front and the reported fan noise that doesn’t happen on the max $4000 version, getting the Mac Mini with 512G ssd and having performance degraded because of the on chip ssd case; the point is, what’s the minimum or reasonable choice to,NOT have any of those annoyances. I’ve just bought a studio display and annoyingly enough dont come with thunderbolt out for daisy chainring nut it s advantages are more than this annoyances since a $4000 monitor is not a reasonable choice for me. I think you get it. To summarize how to travel thru your choices and not end up with something unreasonable priced and full of annoyances. Feel free to contact me if you want to talk or chat. I’m in US Texas. Thank you
Logic is working great on my M1 1tb 16gb Mac mini, on an m2 Pro maybe you could go crazy with plugins! Busses and Freeze/bounce in place? Eh don’t need those just stick those effects on all the individual tracks 😀
Fabulous video, mate. I reckon I’ll get a 16GB M2 Mac Mini now, with plans for the M3 Pro laptop next year. All the best from Adelaide, South Australia.
I've been studying iOS development on a 16GB M2 Mac mini so far. Also recording guitar with it. My advice to people is to start creating, instead of overspending. A lot of people haven't started anything and just obsessed with hardware.
Every reviewer orders the wrong one - partly because their job is to compare, and to see what the minimal machine is that can get people by until next (year?). To avoid regret, wait until you absolutely must have one, and get the biggest baddest one you can. Then run it until the wheels fall off or must-have software requires new architectures.
Thanks for confirming my thoughts! I’m indeed not upgrading my m1 Mac mini. But I do use a intel Mac air 16 go with two external displays, how to upgrade that?
Will the base model M2 Mini be good for photoshop? I’m not a pro which is obvious from this question. Some other reviewers have said to get the pro… I’ve ordered a 16gb version and now I’m panicking lol.
so is a m1 mac mini 16GB ram and 512SSD still a good machine for video editing? Uisng Premiere with simple 4k30/60-1080p60 in XAVC-S max 200Mbps? projects up to90 minutes long...I could get one used for a good price...or I must move up to a new M2pro for twice the price and that makes it very close to a Mac studio entry level...
@@MarkEllisReviews yeah...One of these days I will learn FCP X...but for work I need to use Premiere Pro...I won't push the system too hard...of course I would prefer a Mac Studio but as long as this M1Mac mini with 16GB ram can do the job I will be happy...I care more about the editing experience. Not too choppy I hope-even if I have to reduce the playback quality....thanks!
I´d like to see a testing of the M2 Mac mini (not pro) while running normal business stuff, excel-sheets, webbrowsing, mailing, some Tabs in safari, a zoom-conference etc
Can’t you cancel your current order and replace it with an M2 Pro Mac Mini? It sounds like it would be more useful to you and more interesting to review. I agree the direct comparisons between you existing M1s and the new M2s will hold little excitement
You may be surprised on the delivery Mark. I ordered an M2 Mac Mini with the same spec as you (16GB/512GB) on the 18th Jan. Delivery was due 2-6th Feb….received it on Wednesday (25th Jan). 👍🏻
Listen mate can i ask you how many Mac computers have you got, I would guess it’s about SIX So why I’ve known for some time you’re an Apple fan boy my brother pointed it out to because he thinks you’re are not quite right.
You're close - it's seven. I can help you and your brother out, if you like; what is it you don't understand about me having so many Macs (keeping in mind this is my full-time business and every one of those Macs is an asset that sits on a balance sheet for my limited company - like any company in the same position)?
@@MarkEllisReviews Yes of course it’s not complicated mate maybe you never got it first time round, My question was why do you need so MANY Apple computers i am sure your 2020 Mac computer will get your work done My brother as you referred to works for Apple he’s a software engineer and he uses a 2020 MacBook Pro but it’s possible your work is more intensified than his or maybe it’s a case of look how many Mac computer i have, But my brother did mention to me if you wanted to Make Maybe a profit in you business life he’s offering this Small peace of advice. Sell your MacBooks etc and keep just ONE. And that bit of advice is Free.
@@MarkEllisReviews No I don’t, But first of all let’s make this point,At the end of the day it’s really nothing to do with me it’s just if one’s on a platform like UA-cam one is open for opinions that’s all i was doing if you have 20 Mac Computers Good luck to you. Reading my remarks I think they come across a little bit personal that wasn’t my intention.
@@blackcoalboy no offence taken, mate. I run a reviews business which focuses predominantly on Apple. That’s why I have so many! You don’t want to know how many phones and headphones I’ve got, too! These are all business assets, not toys 😉
The important thing to me is seeing Macs around the same price being compared with each other. No point comparing a Mac that is 3x the price of the other one and then saying it’s better, that’s kind of a no brainer.
I think you should pick up the base model M2 Pro (w 16GB & 512GB ssd - you can probably pick it up at your local Apple Store) which I really think is what any small(ish) creator needs and see how well it does for both video creation tasks and as a home audio setup. I think you will be surprised. Everybody keeps upping the ram or ssd or gets the unbinned model. The base model will run your music studio fine and serve as a backup for your laptop.
I don’t think any of the comparison guides doing the rounds have any point to them .. we all know a similarly specked M2 will be around 30% faster than the same specked M1, so as you say ‘why bother testing’ The only question is which spec to choose when ordering. To me this is simple and straightforward, but a guide for others may be useful.
I’m interested in the budget versions on the Mac mini. I’m thinking of going with the 16 GB memory upgrade and booting from a fast external SSD. Can you test a setup like this?
M2 Pro Mac Mini with 512GB have single NAND chips, CPU and GPU is faster.. SSD speed is only half of M1 Pro/Max.. your friends from Max Tech is already take look of it. Really like your headphone review and comparison, but for Apple release you can’t beat on speed from other reviewer, as they get product sent by Apple weeks ahead.
Good to be upfront. Music production on the M2 would be interesting to see. I’ve been using Intel Mac Minis in my recording studio for years and I’ve added the Mac Studio M1 Max last year. I stack them with Vienna Ensemble Pro to get more processing power rather than just using one of them. M1 was a huge leap for music production but M2 is a small step for us. Because music production priorities are usually RAM (and swap speed now makes the SSD effectively part of RAM) and CPU (GPU is nice for making music videos but not something you use much in a DAW) then single core speed (multi-core is relatively less important in music production), the fully loaded M2 Mac Mini is probably overkill and the Mini Pro is probably not really necessary to deliver better or more musical product compared to the baseline Mini (of course avoiding the cheapest M2 machines which we all know slow down the swap speed by using a single SSD where M1 base models kept speeds up by running two SSD chips). Anyway, music production on the M2 would be good to see. I suspect the M2 will allow a small increase in DAW performance over the M1 and probably just through the load and save times being quicker - i.e. it’s a mild workflow improvement. M1 was a leap but M2 over M1 is just a bit of progress forward. M3 (the 3 Nm just brings everything closer together so makes it potentially even quicker) will be probably a larger improvement…
Which M2 Mac mini are you most interested in, and why?
M2 pro , debating if 32 gig ram / 1 TB or just the base M2 pro 👀
@@elysiumcore i THINK 16gb ram is kind of amazing already. but i do want the 32gb ram version as well 😅
My 2020 M1 mini will be my 24/7 dedicated Plex server. My M2 Pro 16GB/512GB mini will be my new desktop image/video editor.
M2 Pro, 32GB, 2 TB ..and yeah... even the better processor. Crazily insane high price but I expect a super performant machine which is not too loud even under heavy load. Can tell next week how this works for me.
Oh ... and I want to record music again, so hope it will work well with Logic and all the plugins.
Gotta say man, don’t be too hard on yourself bc you’re one of my favorite watches. Of course I follow the LTT and MKBHDs of the world, but your videos always feel like a real person assessing products for real use cases. Keep it up man
Ah, thank you!
@@petreopashinovopasinis6246 grow up.
Mini M2 is suitable for most use cases, pro version is required only for high end multi media editing.
It was great to hear about your thoughts when buying them. I'm curious about M1 vs M2 Mini and whether the A) the BT issue is still there and B) the NAND chip hampers day to day performance.
With the Pro, I'm curious as to whether with more ports, you can get away without a hub or is that still a Mac Mini essential.
Also, would be great if you reviewed or spoke about a range of monitors you can buy (Apple and not Apple) to pair with them.
Monitor video would be cool. I’m in the market but I’m not sure i want to pay for the very expensive Studio Display.
Everyone is doing reviews of the M2 8GB/256 base model or the Mac Mini Pro. No one is doing reviews of the Base model 16GB/256 version. We all know now the 256gb version is half as slow as the 512 version on read/wrote speeds, but how fast is the 16GB version with still 256ssd? Does it improve performance like the 512ssd does? If you could only upgrade one thing for performance increase on the base model, should it be ram or ssd?
@@Kats0unam1 I’m not sure it’s that clear cut. ua-cam.com/video/YKRO-4BiZrI/v-deo.html
I got the base model M2 mac mini and i added an ssd card via usb4 and it’s perfect for me.
i am a part time sound engineer, I play the keyboard, i am a college student, and i just love trying new things, so this was perfect for me 😅
I bought the M2 pro with 16gb and a 1TB ssd drive for 4 reasons. I owned a 2015 iMac I5 that was getting very slow. 1st I wanted something that could possibly last a little longer. 2nd I play guitar and am doing recording. 3rd I’m a amateur photographer and can’t stand the wait while processing RAW photos. The faster the better. 4th I wanted as many USB ports as possible. I am using all the ports plus a couple on An extra hub. I probably could have gotten away with the regular M2, but wanted the speed, flexibility, and as much longevity as i could get.
I would love to see a comparison between an M2 Mac mini with 512gb and 16gb ram vs the base model m2 pro Mac mini… I’m tossing up between the two and not sure what to order 😅
Exactly right.
I’m in the same dilemma. Thinking the extra ports on the Pro will save me buying an extension port for a hundred plus.
What have you guys decided to buy finally?
I went with the M2 Pro baseline. I need to set it up as we speak!
I went with the M2 Mac mini with 512gb and 16gb ram. In Australia it’s an extra $450 for the pro, couldn’t justify the extra speed that I’ll never use
It's great to have a "creative" doing reviews on UA-cam. I find them more along the lines of what I would consider doing. I value your insights.
Thank you.
I'm a muso and feel very left out of the discussion about the M2 series and usefulness/specs for Logic, virtual instruments, etc. So I'm glad that in some way you will be able to give me an idea of what I can expect of the new generation - and hopefully not in comparison with the M1 but as a stand alone experience. Because of their reliability and continuing usefulness, like a lot of people I'm shifting from Macs many more than 1 or 2 generations ago. I have a (still very functional) 2010 macbook Pro 17", and even a quite capable 2007 cheesegrater (for 32bit driven music hardware) and so videos about improvement over the M1 are absolutely redundant for me.
Moving a piece of data takes time and energy. If you shorten the distance to move that data, e.g. from 5 to 3 nano-meters it will be done with less time and energy - it's like driving a car 3 or 5 miles in the same speed - shorter distance means less time and gas. This is not the entire truth, but it's a kind of visual way to look at it and grasping the benefits of shrinking the size of the components in a chip. I think that still 3 nm (0.000 000 003 mm) is referring to the thickness of the "wire" (the silicone lead) between two components in the chip.
I am also excited to see you set it up as a music production studio with that fancy new gear, I’m still learning so am interested how others do it 😊
How silent is the M2 Pro Mac Mini? Can you capture the fan noise with a microphone?
These are dead silent machines, mate - no issues there at all.
I do just UA-cam and currently I edit on the m1 MacBook Air base… it struggles as i knew it would. But I think even though the pro is tempting I will go with the m2 .Mac mini 24GB 1TB. Unfortunately there’s no real comparison with an a lil bit better m2 to the m2 pro… would be nice seeing that
I think I will wait for the Mac Studio upgrade , hopefully this year . :)) I need a Mac Mini M2 pro with 32 Gb of Ram and 2 Tb ....Then I realize the price is too close to the Mac Studio , therefore I rather wait for the Mac Studio upgrade hopefully this year .
Bro how you affording all this stuff? You definitely aren’t making this back in ad revenue.
Because Mark Ellis Reviews is a multi channel content business, mate. There’s lots to this brand!
I am currently using 2019 MacBook Pro with Intel i9 2.3GHz 8 core, 32GB RAM and 1 TB SSD. I am not digital content creator and I am not doing any video editing. My work predominantly need multiple apps with multiple browsers run on the machine. Therefore the RAM utilisation usually range around 26GB to 28 GB.
With this current workload, I confuse which Mac mini M2 or M2 pro best suit for me?
1. Should I choose Mac mini M2 with 16GB RAM and 1 TB SSD? Or,
2. Should I choose Mac mini M2 with 24 GB RAM and 1 TB SSD? Or,
3. Should I choose Mac Mini M2 Pro (base CPU) with 16GB RAM and 1 TB SSD? Or,
4. Should I choose Mac Mini M2 Pro (base CPU) with 32GB RAM and 1 TB SSD?
Would love to see the M2 Mac Mini Pro base model get reviewed 😀 I think once you start upgrading the Mini Pro with 32gb Ram etc it’s almost the same price as the Mac Studio. Apart from upgrading the storage to 1tb I think the base Mac Mini Pro is the best value for money.
M2 pro is worthwhile because of the extra ports... hate having to buy hubs...
I'd be interested to see how the battery life on the 14 inch is for you. I had the fully specced M1 14 inch and it was a BEAST but the battery life was horrible.
The nanometers refer to how thin the “wires” (connections) are in the chip. Think of it as chip design resolution.
Love your material and delivery style. Keep it up. I am a boring accountant and the only heavy duty stuff I do is run a windows 11 virtual machine via parallels. Seems to burn up memory quickly. I am wondering if the M2 is any different.
I want to see how the performance is for the normal everyday user (no heavy content creation, just web browsing using Chrome and Safari with max tabs open, Music listening, movie watching, some office documents/spreadsheets etc...) between M1/M2/M2Pro - on the MacMini - is the noticeable difference in that use-case performance or $$$ AND is it worth getting the Pro if ONLY to futureproof the purchase - Great video - I am now a subscriber 100%
Welcome onboard!
@@MarkEllisReviews thank you!
Get the M2 Pro Mini be great to see how that goes as a Studio and/or media machine as for the MacBook Pro I’d save your cash and send it straight back and wait see what comes up in later 2023 and then 2024 with M3 SoCs
If you want a higher end desktop then you should probably wait for the M2 based mac studio that will surely drop this year. Rather silly to get a speced up mac mini if you're looking for a pro user computer. Mac mini is suppose to be entry level. I'm convinced they only offer the speced up version to entice impatient people.
This isn't a review of M2 Mac Mini. Just kidding :)
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For most musicians, the M2 Mac Mini with 16GB of RAM and 512GB SSD is all you need for your professional music production, mixing, mastering and other and studio work like podcasting, and video editing.... however, If you are doing complex video production work or you work with CAD files and or are an architect, structural engineer doing a lot of design work, don't bother with any of the Mac Mini configurations... get you a Mac Studio with at least 64GB and 2TB storage or build yourself a PC with some formidable processor and graphics card.
I already have an M1 Ultra Mac Studio, so will not be getting an M2 Pro Mac Mini (ugh marketing). However, had I waited, I'd get the M2 Pro Mac Mini with the $2599 config, with the 32GB, 2TB, and best CPU/GPU available. Not because I'm an actual "pro" user, but because I'd want this thing to last and be very useful for years to come. Will I get the M3 Studio? Dunno, depends on if I'm even alive when it comes out (health issues).
What curved monitor do you have? Looking for one for new M2 Mac min pro
I just bought an M2pro Mini 10/16 16gb 1tb. Moving up from an i7-7700 3.6ghz w/32gb ram. It will be here in a week. I'm expecting to be impressed. Music/video production is my aim. Did I get the right one?
Does that mean this M2 Mac mini will be out of date in 12 months? How long can one realistically expect to get out a machine then?
I’m interested in the tests. Not because I’m buying either, but because I just like knowing the stats
Nobody should buy the cheap "pro" when Apple are once again putting in the poor performance components to save them a few cents.
Buy with at least 1TByte ssd (4 nand instead of only 2) or you will get poorer transfer rates. You will likely also burn out the ssd chips like on the first M1. The good thing about mcmini is that you don't risk another keyboard gate or display burnin gate.
Why don't you get an M1 Max 14" until the M3s are released? Should be able to find some good deals now! Then you can at least save your back for another year ;-) And... you'll be ready to decide if you want a 14" or 16" M3!
Content creators I fell with the new releases should not purchase anything less than the M2 Pro versions with at least 16GB unified memory, and 1TB SSD Storage.
I think if you're going to talk about Mac Mini then stick with it. It gets a bit much when jumping around between Minis and MacBooks. My 2 cents' worth but otherwise great video(s)
Comparison between base variant Mac Mini M2 Pro (vs) Mac Mini M2 customized to 16GB and 512GB SSD
Mark, I'm really looking for a comparison between similarly specced M2 Mac mini Pro and the M1 Max Mac Studio. I'm in a bit of a quandary right now wondering if the M1 Mac Studio is a good purchase of if to hold out for an M2 version. Thanks.
I'd like to see logic pro x and studio one on your mac mini's
I am a programmer. And i would like to see speed and performance tests between the same configuration.
i use to run and still i have projects with intel mac mini and cubase ,,, still does the job ,,
You literally did not cover your video title at all haha.
Watched the other m2 mac mini vid which was good tho!
i just ordered an M2 Mac mini also but to be honest it still supports a massive number of tracks
Things I'd like to know: 1. Is the M2 Pro worth considering over the M2 in terms of "future proofing"? I'm leaning towards the Pro mainly because of the extra ports even though I probably don't need the extra power, but would like another reason to spend the extra money! 2. How quiet or otherwise are these Minis? Can you hear the fan?
The mini computers are very quiet. The pro will spin its fans sometimes but the regular m2 is basically silent. As for the ports, if that is the only reason you want the m2pro, just buy a dock designed for the mini for about $80-$100. Spend what you save on the 1TB drive M2 rather than letting extra power go to waste. I am editing multiple 4K streams of video on the regular M2. The pro is only worthy is you are a pro and will earn money with it.
@@NorthernWhisper Thanks for the info and suggestion - something else to think about!
I keep looking at all of these new Macs, but I literally cannot justify upgrading from my base version M1 MacBook Air. Just cannot fault it. If anything, the only Mac I'll be looking at getting is a refurbed version of the M1 Mac Mini you've got with the 16gb RAM and 512 SSD, so I can just keep my M1 MacBook Air in my bag when I get in, instead of plugging it into my desktop set up.
With regards to your conundrum (once reviews have been carried out) ... perhaps keep with your original plan of using the M1 Mac Mini for music production, send the M2 Mac Mini back and replace it with the M2 Pro Mac Mini, and use that for production work at your desk, and keep the 14 inch M2 Max MacBook Pro as your laptop. Then sell the 16 inch M1 version, your M2 MacBook Air and M1 iMac to top the bank balance back up a bit.
i was going to get the mimi pro specked out but for £200 more i can get a studio with 2tb storage and double the ram and more graphics so think im going studio now as the reviews on mac mini pro dont seem great, long wait though 16 to 20 weeks wait as its a CEO order.
I hate Apple 🤔
Yep, i’m not impressed either. I have got numerous Apple products over the years having spent what must be thousands - and I bought my first ever Mac, the Mini M1, from my music studio just before Christmas - and because of the embargo I wasn’t tipped off about an imminent new model - and here I am two months later where I could’ve got the M2 version for the same price. Not happy. Really naughty, sly Apple.
M2 pro mini. M2 pro studio, m1 macbook air,, m2 max macbook pro or whatever.. who the hell comes up with these names? Really stupid naming scheme. Can't even figure out what the hell is being compared. Just name them like the old time, M210. M220, m230 or something, what a freaking mess.
Trying making videos about them with all those specs, too!
3:03 Apple have an excellent return policy if necessary…
512 SSD wrong choice, much slower that the 1Gb.
Your project should be with the cheaper option. A lot of people curious to see what £649 can really do.
No but when you sell the old M1 Pro laptop that cost will be significantly less
My dilemma is M2 Mac Mini Pro 12C/32GB/512GB/10Gbe for £2199 or base Mac Studio 32GB/512GB for £1999 (£1799 refurb)
The Studio is a better buy when compared to a fully loaded M2 Pro Mac mini. I got a "maxed out" M2 Pro Mini with all of the above, but bumped up the SSD to 1TB which improves IO even more. I also have a couple Mac Studios (a base model and an almost fully loaded one with 1 TB of SSD). You have to be very careful when selecting the SSD on any Apple product since it often has a disproportionate effect on performance. There are specific reasons to get a beefed up M2 Pro Mini, but if you know the box is staying put, then get the M1 Max Studio base model with 1 TB of SSD since that will bring your disk IO up to 5GB/s and provide an extra 20% performance boost over a fully load M2 Pro Mini. As soon as you raise the memory on a Mini to 32GB, you have to ask yourself why you're not opting for an M1 Max Studio. The answer in my case was that I needed something even more portable than a Max Studio for live gigs and travel to difficult locations. The only other good reason I can think of choosing a Mini over a Studio is if you absolutely need HDMI 2.1 support.
Hi Mark, The videos I've seen so far indicate about a 20% uptick in performance. Not a bad jump. What I cannot get over it that Apple in their infinite wisdom only uses a single Nand chip in their base model Mac Mini and the base model 14" Macbook Pro. I'm not certain about the 16" yet. I find that unfathomable in 2022 that they would hobble these machines for the sake of saving a few dollars in parts. This is one of those "What was Tim and crew thinking" moments. Definately interested in the Mac Mini Pro (which does not suffer from the Nand chip issue, by the way). Looking forward to that video in particular and your take on that machine.
The base model M2 Mac Mini Pro also suffers from the NAND chip issue. You have to upgrade to 1TB to get the equivalent SSD speeds the previous models got.
I'd like to see the comparison, as the combination of basic m2 with 16gb ram isn't really reviewed. I also would like to see a stress test of the system and it's loudness, as I can't stand any computer noises. :)
I am not in particular interested in rendering time comparisons. It would be interesting to me for you to compare your normal daily usage with them. Maybe a different comparison - such as responsiveness. Maybe look at Apple's "Quilt" of new features and see if one of them in particular catches you eye - depending on what you do with your Macs.
Not hugely interested - Apple said they're about 20% faster, so I can do my own maths on that one. I say that as an M1Pro user so I've no real reason to upgrade.
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If you never heard him, please do watch his interview, you will love it as he talks exactly same like you 😀
Something different please.
Yes, this vid was made for me. I don't have an m1 mac mini, but I'm still curious to see the difference. My primary use case scenario is for music production so I'll be most likely going for an m2 pro mac mini config as much as I'd rather see the base mac mini m2 fit my needs.
Regardless of the difference between the base m2 mac mini and the M1 equivalent, I'd still be interested to see how the base m2 mac mini holds up under ever increasing demands- be it in a music production scenario or a video editing one.
I think any combo of comparison tests is interesting.
Thanks for the content.
Thanks for the kind words!
I’m 6 minutes into an 8 minute video and still haven’t addressed the actual issue. Its based on second guessing?
Nope, it’s the 6th guess. If you’re still awake by then, have a crack.
My M1 Max 14 inch MacBook Pro is built like yours I think. 32gb ram, 32 GPU, 2 tb SSD. I don't allow final cut to background render and I use better quality and I never get hiccups. I love it
What I'd love to see is a comparison between the M2 24GB 1TB and the M2 Pro 16GB 1TB which retail at approximately the same price, with an emphasis on music production. Is it best to have the base M2 with more RAM or the Pro version with less RAM?
Mac Studio…. Once you get to the $1800+ mark I would seriously look at the performance marks of the Studio vs the Mini. Just my 2 cents.
@@JohnwFOC I know where you're coming from, but as I said, it's for music production, so I don't care for GPU power - thus the Mac Studio is overkill for me. I am leaning towards a base mode M2 Pro Mac mini which retails at around £1399 (£600 less than the base mode Mac Studio) and offers similar if not better CPU performance.
Hi Mark. I’m thinking the Mac Mini with M2 Pro chip as well. I can’t decide if I should get the base model at the store, or spec it up. 16GB works well for me, so 32GB is more of a want than a need. Same with storage.
I bought the base Mac Mini with M2 Pro!!
Right now I'm torn between an M2 Mini spec'd to 16GB and 512 or TB vs an M2Pro Mini with the same specs. I'd love to see a direct comparison between the two.
I don’t see much sense in the 16GB M2, if you need more performance get the pro, if not save your money and go 8 GB
If you don't need 32GB RAM, go with base model M2Pro.
Save your money, Mr Ellis, and buy M3-versions later on instead. M2 is kind of "MEH". Thanks for all the entertaining content!
I am thinking of buying the M2 with 16 gb and 512 SSD. I would love you to to test the HECK out of that while you have it. Test it pleaseee...Does it handle everything an ordinary user can throw at it? is it good for someone just getting into photo editing or video editing? Could it work for the student doing all those things on occasion, or the family ?
Interesting comments, so thank you. As a result of your comments just been looking at M1 16gb on Ebay - often going for similar prices to new M2 units. As I am looking at this 'toy' for video editing for submission to the police, I suspect 16gb is better than 8gb for either M1 or M2?
Hi, I have M1 Mac Mini 16GB and I want to see comparison with M2 Pro Mac Mini base version. So upgrade Your order.😄
In around 1988 I bought a Schneider PC/AT 10 MHz for around £700. It had a none standard slower 20 Mb hard disk which is why it was so cheap. It had on board EGA graphics. It revolutionised my gaming and word processing. It wasn't a proprietary system such as the Amiga where the base system was cheap but every upgrade cost a fortune. Over the next three years I upgraded to a 50 Mb hard disk, bought a VGA card and monitor and a bought a higher capacity floppy disk drive.
Modern Macs are even more restrictive than Amiga's were in 1988. You cant upgrade your storage for any money no matter how much you pay. A Mac Studio with a single plug in 512 Gb flash module cannot have a second one fitted even though this would be a simple plug in option. Linus Tech bought two 512 Gb Mac Studios but found that something in the firmware stopped the 512 Gb flash module from one being used to upgrade the other. Apple's only upgrade path is to buy a completely new system. The cost of extra flash or RAM chips in one of these "upgraded" systems costs around ten times the cost of the chips themselves.
I have a 2014 256Ssd/ 16Gb and run Parallels with Win10 for old 32 but programs I use. Considering M2 256/16 and Parallels Win11, would luv to see Parallels on the new M2 Mm.
Here’s an idea , annoyances, like for example buying a Mac Studio Pro and not having thunderbolt ports in the front and the reported fan noise that doesn’t happen on the max $4000 version, getting the Mac Mini with 512G ssd and having performance degraded because of the on chip ssd case; the point is, what’s the minimum or reasonable choice to,NOT have any of those annoyances. I’ve just bought a studio display and annoyingly enough dont come with thunderbolt out for daisy chainring nut it s advantages are more than this annoyances since a $4000 monitor is not a reasonable choice for me. I think you get it. To summarize how to travel thru your choices and not end up with something unreasonable priced and full of annoyances. Feel free to contact me if you want to talk or chat. I’m in US Texas. Thank you
With all this said I wait for Mac mini M3 and than use that one on my IMAC M1 8cpu 8gpu 256 Gb .
Logic is working great on my M1 1tb 16gb Mac mini, on an m2 Pro maybe you could go crazy with plugins! Busses and Freeze/bounce in place? Eh don’t need those just stick those effects on all the individual tracks 😀
Fabulous video, mate. I reckon I’ll get a 16GB M2 Mac Mini now, with plans for the M3 Pro laptop next year. All the best from Adelaide, South Australia.
Actually...I don't care much for the Pro since I won't be using that extra power....I was really interested in this model!
I've been studying iOS development on a 16GB M2 Mac mini so far. Also recording guitar with it. My advice to people is to start creating, instead of overspending. A lot of people haven't started anything and just obsessed with hardware.
Every reviewer orders the wrong one - partly because their job is to compare, and to see what the minimal machine is that can get people by until next (year?). To avoid regret, wait until you absolutely must have one, and get the biggest baddest one you can. Then run it until the wheels fall off or must-have software requires new architectures.
Sadly, the M1 versions are no longer available from Apple. The M2 are the only versions on offer.
Thanks for confirming my thoughts! I’m indeed not upgrading my m1 Mac mini. But I do use a intel Mac air 16 go with two external displays, how to upgrade that?
Will the base model M2 Mini be good for photoshop? I’m not a pro which is obvious from this question. Some other reviewers have said to get the pro… I’ve ordered a 16gb version and now I’m panicking lol.
I want to see a comparison against an 2018 mac min 3.2ghz 6-core i7 with 16gb ram
How does it compare to the raspberry pi 4? I know the mac mini m2 is faster but it's a great video idea!
so is a m1 mac mini 16GB ram and 512SSD still a good machine for video editing? Uisng Premiere with simple 4k30/60-1080p60 in XAVC-S max 200Mbps? projects up to90 minutes long...I could get one used for a good price...or I must move up to a new M2pro for twice the price and that makes it very close to a Mac studio entry level...
It's a great machine for that (although I'm a Final Cut Pro user).
@@MarkEllisReviews yeah...One of these days I will learn FCP X...but for work I need to use Premiere Pro...I won't push the system too hard...of course I would prefer a Mac Studio but as long as this M1Mac mini with 16GB ram can do the job I will be happy...I care more about the editing experience. Not too choppy I hope-even if I have to reduce the playback quality....thanks!
Always wise to miss out an incremental step, as with cameras. Someone will buy an M2 Mac Mini, slightly soiled, from you.
I´d like to see a testing of the M2 Mac mini (not pro) while running normal business stuff, excel-sheets, webbrowsing, mailing, some Tabs in safari, a zoom-conference etc
Can’t you cancel your current order and replace it with an M2 Pro Mac Mini? It sounds like it would be more useful to you and more interesting to review. I agree the direct comparisons between you existing M1s and the new M2s will hold little excitement
I would like to know if the mac mini pro 10 core is an upgrade over macbook pro m1 8 core
For music production i might add
You may be surprised on the delivery Mark. I ordered an M2 Mac Mini with the same spec as you (16GB/512GB) on the 18th Jan. Delivery was due 2-6th Feb….received it on Wednesday (25th Jan). 👍🏻
Base models with either ram or ssd upgrades but be different take the last MacBook Pro before apple silicon and compare
Listen mate can i ask you how many Mac computers have you got, I would guess it’s about SIX So why I’ve known for some time you’re an Apple fan boy my brother pointed it out to because he thinks you’re are not quite right.
You're close - it's seven. I can help you and your brother out, if you like; what is it you don't understand about me having so many Macs (keeping in mind this is my full-time business and every one of those Macs is an asset that sits on a balance sheet for my limited company - like any company in the same position)?
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Yes of course it’s not complicated mate maybe you never got it first time round, My question was why do you need so MANY Apple computers i am sure your 2020 Mac computer will get your work done My brother as you referred to works for Apple he’s a software engineer and he uses a 2020 MacBook Pro but it’s possible your work is more intensified than his or maybe it’s a case of look how many Mac computer i have, But my brother did mention to me if you wanted to Make Maybe a profit in you business life he’s offering this Small peace of advice. Sell your MacBooks etc and keep just ONE.
And that bit of advice is Free.
@@blackcoalboy Em... Dennis, mate. Do you realise what I do for a living?
@@MarkEllisReviews No I don’t, But first of all let’s make this point,At the end of the day it’s really nothing to do with me it’s just if one’s on a platform like UA-cam one is open for opinions that’s all i was doing if you have 20 Mac Computers Good luck to you. Reading my remarks I think they come across a little bit personal that wasn’t my intention.
@@blackcoalboy no offence taken, mate. I run a reviews business which focuses predominantly on Apple. That’s why I have so many! You don’t want to know how many phones and headphones I’ve got, too! These are all business assets, not toys 😉
The important thing to me is seeing Macs around the same price being compared with each other. No point comparing a Mac that is 3x the price of the other one and then saying it’s better, that’s kind of a no brainer.
It might be interesting to see the performance differences in the triple a games made for apple silicon, Specifically resident evil village
I think you should pick up the base model M2 Pro (w 16GB & 512GB ssd - you can probably pick it up at your local Apple Store) which I really think is what any small(ish) creator needs and see how well it does for both video creation tasks and as a home audio setup. I think you will be surprised. Everybody keeps upping the ram or ssd or gets the unbinned model. The base model will run your music studio fine and serve as a backup for your laptop.
Interesting...
surprise! the computers your waiting for are in stock at your local store
I don’t think any of the comparison guides doing the rounds have any point to them .. we all know a similarly specked M2 will be around 30% faster than the same specked M1, so as you say ‘why bother testing’ The only question is which spec to choose when ordering. To me this is simple and straightforward, but a guide for others may be useful.
Yup - and I’ve published one already 😉
I’m interested in the budget versions on the Mac mini. I’m thinking of going with the 16 GB memory upgrade and booting from a fast external SSD.
Can you test a setup like this?
M2 Pro Mac Mini with 512GB have single NAND chips, CPU and GPU is faster.. SSD speed is only half of M1 Pro/Max.. your friends from Max Tech is already take look of it. Really like your headphone review and comparison, but for Apple release you can’t beat on speed from other reviewer, as they get product sent by Apple weeks ahead.
2 nand chips, 2 x faster than m2 base 256
Not sure what you said but as long as you have your health …
Good to be upfront. Music production on the M2 would be interesting to see. I’ve been using Intel Mac Minis in my recording studio for years and I’ve added the Mac Studio M1 Max last year. I stack them with Vienna Ensemble Pro to get more processing power rather than just using one of them. M1 was a huge leap for music production but M2 is a small step for us. Because music production priorities are usually RAM (and swap speed now makes the SSD effectively part of RAM) and CPU (GPU is nice for making music videos but not something you use much in a DAW) then single core speed (multi-core is relatively less important in music production), the fully loaded M2 Mac Mini is probably overkill and the Mini Pro is probably not really necessary to deliver better or more musical product compared to the baseline Mini (of course avoiding the cheapest M2 machines which we all know slow down the swap speed by using a single SSD where M1 base models kept speeds up by running two SSD chips). Anyway, music production on the M2 would be good to see. I suspect the M2 will allow a small increase in DAW performance over the M1 and probably just through the load and save times being quicker - i.e. it’s a mild workflow improvement. M1 was a leap but M2 over M1 is just a bit of progress forward. M3 (the 3 Nm just brings everything closer together so makes it potentially even quicker) will be probably a larger improvement…