Still hoping for the Carbon Version with removable Liner. I have the feeling that Seba might have a Deal with Leon Basin to not bring them out. Cause the wizard guys have a linerless carbon Version with their intuition in it. But please Seba, think about it, bring them out. It would be just so much more easy to find the perfect size for us Skaters. Cause now we have to read tons of comments and recommendations to get the right size to gut and put an intuition in. But when we are unlucky we end up with the wrong size. (Yes, thats what happend to me sadly) Thanks for the detailed video guys
Encyclopedia of everything we wanna know about inline skating the level of detailing is enormous , I love everything you do and wish to have the chance to visit Thisissoul skate shop maybe combine it with a trip to Winterclash 2023 trip🔥
This video is great ! You saved me lots of reading on Reddit to find the right size. Keep doing great inline skating video like this ! The culture needs you !
The SX were the first boot that ever fit me perfectly. Sadly they have recently fallen apart, and I'm eyeing off the CJ2s atm. I have flat feet, maybe a bit wide too. The massive toe box is soooo nice. I do a lot of toe tricks. I got a new insole with a decent heel which stopped my heel from hurting after longer sessions.
Great review! Very informative and exactly the kind of stuff I've been trying to learn before getting this skate! Wish I could visit your store in-person!
Awesome explanation of the differences between the versions - literally the first I've come across. I'm tossing up between the FR UFR, Faction Tactical Midnight or the SEBA CJ 2 Prime for a pair of aggressive skates. I have a wide toe-box but narrow heels so need the ankle strap to lock in my heel. I love the Faction in white but they seem to scuff and mark easily so I think maybe the SEBA CJ as they have the skid plate already mounted to the side of the toe-box to prevent damage to the boot. I think the Faction comes with a skid-plate but you have to drill the holes and fit yourself, so it doesn't feel like the boot was really designed for that? The UFR's look great and will no-doubt take a lot more scuff-abuse but I think maybe a less rigid boot might be better for aggressive skating? If only I could afford the plane ticket to come to Amsterdam for a week to try on different boots!
all those 3 skates are great skates. dont worry about the skid plate too much both the faction and the cj are wide. the forward flex is the biggest diference between the cj and faction. the faction is more flexy and the cj is more stiff.
I replaced the buckle strap with power straps to the top on both my basic and carbons. I'm also considering replacing the plastic cuff with a carbon cuff.
Hello! I used your video as a reference for deciding on the size of my Seba CJ2s (integrated liner plastic version) and selected the EU 42 version which has a Mondopoint of 27 cm according to the tag. My feet are 27.8 cm and they fit decently comfortably with a little toe touching. You mentioned that you are a size EU 45 but you'd actually select an EU 43 CJ due to the break in. So I figured I'd be safe going with EU 42 since the plastic version does dual sizing with EU 41/42 and EU 43/44 and I don't want the overly huge EU 44 version for my foot size. The first time I skated mine, I had some noticeable big toe pain and black toes from stubbing them I think. I am hoping that they do break in a lot as they'd feel perfect otherwise. Also there is pretty much no padding in the toe box which is rock solid so that can be a bit painful too. Thanks!
I wanted to add that they don't feel like they are crushing my feet. They are definitely comfortable and are breaking in well. It's the brutal toe box when new that was giving me pain.
@@Martz604 I tried a plastic seba 42 but felt a little hot on the foot. I guess I'm still a beginner and still don't know how it feels like to break in a snug fitting boot. I have the FR UFR size 43, after skating for a month or 2. Now it feels a bit big. Hopefully this will be fix with the seba wizard boot size 42. My mondo size is 270mm. tnx for the insight.
@@kuemagecollector Yeah I had a similar experience with a FR1 in the 43/44 shell, the liner is comfortable at first but very noticeably becomes quite loose. That is probably fine if you just want a comfortable ride but I am usually going for a precise performance fit. I think you should be almost perfect with the 42 Wizards. If I am able to get into a 42 with my foot size then you should be pretty comfortable.
@@Martz604 was it a bit painful in the beginning when breaking in the boot? Taking out the intuition liner and putting my foot inside the boot have enough space like a couple cm. I definitely feel like my toes touch the tip of the boot when having the intuition liner.
@@kuemagecollector Yeah it was definitely tight with a tiny bit of pain but no real obvious toe stub thankfully at first but they have broken in very well and are super comfortable now. I still do experience a little numbness after an hour or two of skating but that's pretty normal for a nice performance fit. That was similar to my experience with just the linerless boot. The super thin Wizard Intuition really is the ticket to the EU 42 downsize for me. Hope this helps.
Excellent content on this topic of comfortable boot. I was wondering if this flat ( opposed to raised heel ) set -up is a preferable or at least equally ergonomic option for longer trails I. e. Longer trips ?? I have been wondering this for the last few months ..so I am really looking forward to your answer. Regards from R.O.I. Chris
Most people will use a heel shock absorber in a flat boot to help raise their heel anyway (as mention by Eric in this video). Plus you're wheels will most likely be touching at the same time (unless you're wizard rockering them). If you were to ask me if a raised heel will give you more or less power transfer over flat boot without mods, that's over my head.
@Thisissoul Hello, i suppose there is no metal plate underfoot for power transfer? I have FR UFR Intuition with rockin 4x100 but between my 2m/90Kg and the height of the frame, I do feel like I lose lot of power transfert. I think it comes from the the mount and torsion from the boot. Would a CJ plastic better or do I have to go carbon (really expensive) to have a good power transfer with an UFS boot? The is an adaptator with the rockin frame, so maybe it would be better to go 165mm like FR1 or Twister XT which both have metal plates. Trinity should be great too but I could not keep my frame... Thx
I think the plastic version has a slightly wider toe area than the carbon version (I’ve had both, in older models). Has anyone else tried both and have any comment on this? A great skate all round.
I have SX carbon and SX2 CJ whites (plastic) both size EU41/US8. The carbons are definitely smaller overall than the plastic boot. I mod Valo/Roces soul plates to ride aggressive and size 8-9 soul plates only fit on the carbon SX boot.
curious as to if there's any boot that has a fit similar to the seba CJs. I have a pair with 76mm wheels but I'm looking for a second setup so I can mount some 90s or 110mm
Bladeville has technical details regarding the cj2 prime shells. They say that the eu43 is its own shell. Would you be able to corroborate or rebut this?
the CJ2 has 41-42 and 43-44 combined in one shell. if they say it is separate, then they are wrong. to make the difference between the size, seba put some material at the front of the 42 cj2 to make it feel like a 41. On the outside thoug, you can not tell the difference.
I have FR UFR, seba CJ2, oxelo500, roces M12, ps imperial, ps next and flying eagle. Flying eagle are amazing for 165mm mount I use it with NN ronin 100 and they are great as long as u have normal feet.
I need to glue the outer leather/fake leather cover back onto the carbon: Do you have any idea if there is a specific glue I need to use that won't damage the carbon?
I had to do exactly the same thing on my CJs, I used glue that's meant for repairing shoes and shoe leather and it worked great. I'm in Australia so the brand I used might be different to wherever you are.
Same here, i used some superglue on it and reinforced that part with a strong black duct tape. Cant tell long term results, but first session after repairs went well and they stayed intact. Bad thing is that this supposedly increases the forward flex of the boot. Well, bad for wizard skating at least.
I have a question, also going to do something crazy! My question is, can you change the Velcro strap to a ratchet strap? I really need tightness around that section. The crazy bit is numb sure people think I'm mad. I think these are the ones that I want to turn into ice hockey skates! I have always had moulded ice hockey skates that are so comfortable, this would be like a hybrid, comfort would be amazing, with no worry about how long they are on for, I will let you see the finished product
Thanks for this video, i'm already use it (CJ 2014 grey), and want attach to them frame (kizer elemnt 80 L 267mm). Can you answer a question about it frame, is there really 1mm rockering?
@@thesuperbiketour2251 I was looking at Rockin frames as an option, I didn't want to increase the size of the wheels, but this cheap Kizer 90мм surprised me, it was perfect for my needs. The only thing that had to be done was to install fairly stiff 88a wheels
Hi bro I need your help! I got a Roces 62 impala (black yellow top) It doesn't have any brakes. Can you please help me find the right typ (what are they called, model or any name) I have searched on Google but can't find the right type. Plz help, thanks 🙂
@@Thisissoul I appreciate your response. Now that I've read my comment again, I feel I wasn't specific enough. I meant, the Prime boot in 43, with the extra foam in the toebox area, what you've mentioned. Will it shrink too, what do you think? Thx in advance.
@@Thisissoul I want to buy them but they don't have the version I'm looking for. They have other designs but the one I would like (SX2) is not there. Will there be new Stock? Or do you know if Seba will release new models this 2023?
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Still hoping for the Carbon Version with removable Liner. I have the feeling that Seba might have a Deal with Leon Basin to not bring them out. Cause the wizard guys have a linerless carbon Version with their intuition in it. But please Seba, think about it, bring them out. It would be just so much more easy to find the perfect size for us Skaters. Cause now we have to read tons of comments and recommendations to get the right size to gut and put an intuition in. But when we are unlucky we end up with the wrong size. (Yes, thats what happend to me sadly)
Thanks for the detailed video guys
Encyclopedia of everything we wanna know about inline skating the level of detailing is enormous , I love everything you do and wish to have the chance to visit Thisissoul skate shop maybe combine it with a trip to Winterclash 2023 trip🔥
This video is great ! You saved me lots of reading on Reddit to find the right size. Keep doing great inline skating video like this ! The culture needs you !
thanks man! enjoy!
@@Thisissoul Rb cruiser size 8 fits me perfectly when new . What would be my size in this skate on carbon and plastic ?
The SX were the first boot that ever fit me perfectly.
Sadly they have recently fallen apart, and I'm eyeing off the CJ2s atm.
I have flat feet, maybe a bit wide too.
The massive toe box is soooo nice. I do a lot of toe tricks.
I got a new insole with a decent heel which stopped my heel from hurting after longer sessions.
Great review! Very informative and exactly the kind of stuff I've been trying to learn before getting this skate! Wish I could visit your store in-person!
such a cool skate, wish seba would do another run of the black and white version.
Love these vids, thanks and keep up the hard work!
3:04 should have been the thumbnail
haha
one thing about cuf, k2 (il capo, frontman, etc) kuf is also can be mount on this boot (seba cj/sx) saw it in video from mushroomblade chanel
Tnx for sending me carlos bernal 2 full instead off bernal 1 boot only.Tnk u so much 🤩🤩
Awesome explanation of the differences between the versions - literally the first I've come across.
I'm tossing up between the FR UFR, Faction Tactical Midnight or the SEBA CJ 2 Prime for a pair of aggressive skates. I have a wide toe-box but narrow heels so need the ankle strap to lock in my heel.
I love the Faction in white but they seem to scuff and mark easily so I think maybe the SEBA CJ as they have the skid plate already mounted to the side of the toe-box to prevent damage to the boot. I think the Faction comes with a skid-plate but you have to drill the holes and fit yourself, so it doesn't feel like the boot was really designed for that? The UFR's look great and will no-doubt take a lot more scuff-abuse but I think maybe a less rigid boot might be better for aggressive skating?
If only I could afford the plane ticket to come to Amsterdam for a week to try on different boots!
all those 3 skates are great skates.
dont worry about the skid plate too much
both the faction and the cj are wide.
the forward flex is the biggest diference between the cj and faction. the faction is more flexy and the cj is more stiff.
I replaced the buckle strap with power straps to the top on both my basic and carbons. I'm also considering replacing the plastic cuff with a carbon cuff.
thank you for this video mate. very informative like always
Great video, not sure if it's mentioned here, but how does the width compare of the CJ2 to the old plastic CJ boots?
Hi, how many millimeters shorter and tighter would you say is size 44 compared to 45? Thanks.
Hello! I used your video as a reference for deciding on the size of my Seba CJ2s (integrated liner plastic version) and selected the EU 42 version which has a Mondopoint of 27 cm according to the tag. My feet are 27.8 cm and they fit decently comfortably with a little toe touching. You mentioned that you are a size EU 45 but you'd actually select an EU 43 CJ due to the break in. So I figured I'd be safe going with EU 42 since the plastic version does dual sizing with EU 41/42 and EU 43/44 and I don't want the overly huge EU 44 version for my foot size. The first time I skated mine, I had some noticeable big toe pain and black toes from stubbing them I think. I am hoping that they do break in a lot as they'd feel perfect otherwise. Also there is pretty much no padding in the toe box which is rock solid so that can be a bit painful too. Thanks!
I wanted to add that they don't feel like they are crushing my feet. They are definitely comfortable and are breaking in well. It's the brutal toe box when new that was giving me pain.
@@Martz604 I tried a plastic seba 42 but felt a little hot on the foot. I guess I'm still a beginner and still don't know how it feels like to break in a snug fitting boot. I have the FR UFR size 43, after skating for a month or 2. Now it feels a bit big. Hopefully this will be fix with the seba wizard boot size 42. My mondo size is 270mm. tnx for the insight.
@@kuemagecollector Yeah I had a similar experience with a FR1 in the 43/44 shell, the liner is comfortable at first but very noticeably becomes quite loose. That is probably fine if you just want a comfortable ride but I am usually going for a precise performance fit. I think you should be almost perfect with the 42 Wizards. If I am able to get into a 42 with my foot size then you should be pretty comfortable.
@@Martz604 was it a bit painful in the beginning when breaking in the boot? Taking out the intuition liner and putting my foot inside the boot have enough space like a couple cm. I definitely feel like my toes touch the tip of the boot when having the intuition liner.
@@kuemagecollector Yeah it was definitely tight with a tiny bit of pain but no real obvious toe stub thankfully at first but they have broken in very well and are super comfortable now. I still do experience a little numbness after an hour or two of skating but that's pretty normal for a nice performance fit. That was similar to my experience with just the linerless boot. The super thin Wizard Intuition really is the ticket to the EU 42 downsize for me. Hope this helps.
Excellent content on this topic of comfortable boot. I was wondering if this flat ( opposed to raised heel ) set -up is a preferable or at least equally ergonomic option for longer trails I. e. Longer trips ??
I have been wondering this for the last few months ..so I am really looking forward to your answer.
Regards from R.O.I. Chris
Most people will use a heel shock absorber in a flat boot to help raise their heel anyway (as mention by Eric in this video). Plus you're wheels will most likely be touching at the same time (unless you're wizard rockering them).
If you were to ask me if a raised heel will give you more or less power transfer over flat boot without mods, that's over my head.
@@blanked_out_chin thank you for your reply. I am greatful for your opinion and perspective.much appreciated. Regards.chris.
@Thisissoul Hello,
i suppose there is no metal plate underfoot for power transfer?
I have FR UFR Intuition with rockin 4x100 but between my 2m/90Kg and the height of the frame, I do feel like I lose lot of power transfert. I think it comes from the the mount and torsion from the boot.
Would a CJ plastic better or do I have to go carbon (really expensive) to have a good power transfer with an UFS boot?
The is an adaptator with the rockin frame, so maybe it would be better to go 165mm like FR1 or Twister XT which both have metal plates. Trinity should be great too but I could not keep my frame...
Thx
Grande video amigo! 41BR(27,5) tem um CJ vendendo tamanho 40BR! Sera que devo comprar?! Grato. 🇧🇷🙏
Rb cruiser size 8 fits me perfectly when new . What would be my size in this skate on carbon and plastic ?
I use the Seba CJ Prime and it is an amazing Skate. I can not recommend it enough!
I think the plastic version has a slightly wider toe area than the carbon version (I’ve had both, in older models). Has anyone else tried both and have any comment on this? A great skate all round.
I have SX carbon and SX2 CJ whites (plastic) both size EU41/US8. The carbons are definitely smaller overall than the plastic boot. I mod Valo/Roces soul plates to ride aggressive and size 8-9 soul plates only fit on the carbon SX boot.
@@blanked_out_chin cool, thanks. It’s good to hear confirmation! Sounds like a nice setup you have.
@@blanked_out_chinwhat’s your foot measurement
I’m 25.8cm wide you think 41 is a good size or 40?
curious as to if there's any boot that has a fit similar to the seba CJs. I have a pair with 76mm wheels but I'm looking for a second setup so I can mount some 90s or 110mm
3:05 well, you too buddy
hhaha thought the same
Bladeville has technical details regarding the cj2 prime shells. They say that the eu43 is its own shell. Would you be able to corroborate or rebut this?
the CJ2 has 41-42 and 43-44 combined in one shell. if they say it is separate, then they are wrong.
to make the difference between the size, seba put some material at the front of the 42 cj2 to make it feel like a 41. On the outside thoug, you can not tell the difference.
Hey do you know anything about flying eagle skates?
I have FR UFR, seba CJ2, oxelo500, roces M12, ps imperial, ps next and flying eagle. Flying eagle are amazing for 165mm mount I use it with NN ronin 100 and they are great as long as u have normal feet.
8:00 sizing
I need to glue the outer leather/fake leather cover back onto the carbon: Do you have any idea if there is a specific glue I need to use that won't damage the carbon?
I had to do exactly the same thing on my CJs, I used glue that's meant for repairing shoes and shoe leather and it worked great. I'm in Australia so the brand I used might be different to wherever you are.
@@GOLDCOASTROLLOUT Yea, I do have some Loctite shoe glue, but reluctant to try it out on some expensive carbon boots. But might give it a go!
Same here, i used some superglue on it and reinforced that part with a strong black duct tape. Cant tell long term results, but first session after repairs went well and they stayed intact.
Bad thing is that this supposedly increases the forward flex of the boot. Well, bad for wizard skating at least.
Same happened to my cj carbons. There is a glue called "Tuff Toe" maybe it's worth a try for you.
@@pogoSK8 that tuff toe stuff actually might be a product I want to use for my toe caps
Nice review. Wich soleplate would you recommend for Oysi big frame? What is the largest soleplate for the CJ. 🙏
I have a question, also going to do something crazy!
My question is, can you change the Velcro strap to a ratchet strap? I really need tightness around that section.
The crazy bit is numb sure people think I'm mad. I think these are the ones that I want to turn into ice hockey skates! I have always had moulded ice hockey skates that are so comfortable, this would be like a hybrid, comfort would be amazing, with no worry about how long they are on for, I will let you see the finished product
jup! any SBM2 buckle on our website will work on those skates.
So basically, if i wear size EU 44-45 shoes, when choosing CJ2 Plastic boot with integrated liner, I should go for size 43?
Thanks for this video, i'm already use it (CJ 2014 grey), and want attach to them frame (kizer elemnt 80 L 267mm). Can you answer a question about it frame, is there really 1mm rockering?
@@thesuperbiketour2251 thanks, already use element 90, it's magic frame 😁
@@thesuperbiketour2251 I was looking at Rockin frames as an option, I didn't want to increase the size of the wheels, but this cheap Kizer 90мм surprised me, it was perfect for my needs. The only thing that had to be done was to install fairly stiff 88a wheels
whats the blue skate above his left shoulder?
Thanks for the video! Is there a hidden message you were trying to communicate here? 3:05
haha
3rd in from the right. With the nice tall toe box. Which ones are they??
Its in the video!
Hi bro
I need your help!
I got a Roces 62 impala (black yellow top)
It doesn't have any brakes.
Can you please help me find the right typ (what are they called, model or any name)
I have searched on Google but can't find the right type.
Plz help, thanks 🙂
I'm very happy with FR1 size 40. Which size works best for me with Seba CJ (both carbon and plastic with integrated liner)?
that would be the size 39 most likely for the CJ's with integrated liner
@Thisissoul do you know if the extra foam is removable from the 43eu shell, if someone finds the skate too short? Or can it shrink over time?
The foam will shrink over time allot! So the room will grow
@@Thisissoul I appreciate your response. Now that I've read my comment again, I feel I wasn't specific enough. I meant, the Prime boot in 43, with the extra foam in the toebox area, what you've mentioned. Will it shrink too, what do you think? Thx in advance.
Why do so many people use this model to make Wizard?
because other UFS boots have too much sideways flex to put big wheels on.
@@Thisissoul I want to buy them but they don't have the version I'm looking for. They have other designs but the one I would like (SX2) is not there. Will there be new Stock? Or do you know if Seba will release new models this 2023?
Beautiful skate but impossible to find
I appreciate your lucidity.....🇧🇷👏👏👏
3:03 for you
Over 25 minutes of the same flute solo over and over and over again. I couldn't handle it after the first 2 minutes.
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Three skate setups calls for it's own specific depiction amongst the cellular messageboard stickers.
1. Aggressiveskate 2*58/60 mm.
2.Wizardskate 5*76 mm.
3.Freeskate 3*125 mm.
Thank you!
although we would recommend a 4x100 rockered setup over a 3 wheel setup.