The 8bitdo lite left and right dpads CAN be center pressed to register the L3 or R3 stick click, you just have to press hard right in the center. Its not all that easy to do the L3/R3 input, but it at least makes it so you never press L3/R3 by accident when using the dpads normally.
After retrying and press very hard they do register l3 and r3. Like you said it’s not easy. In my testing I must have pressed it up to very point it would activate. Thanks for watching and the comment. This will make it even better for retroarch usage. Still would have preferred buttons for them like the SE
i actually picked lite 2 because of the analogs. i wanted small and compact controller to use with my pc and smartphone, and analogs were must have for ps2 and psp emulation. I use it with my switch too, but i usually play splatoon 3 and bigger pro controller helps me with aiming. for analogs resistance, i'm keeping it in bag full of university and girl stuff for almost one year and they're still working perfectly fine. if someone's searching for ultra light and very small controller with analogs, i highly recommend it, but lite 1 would work better if you're planning to play some retro or retro style games, like snes games, sonic mania, celeste or stardew valley
I think it's really sweet the SE controller had as many features as it does. Not only does it have motion detection and that pad thing on the back, but I never would've thought the L3 and R3 buttons would've worked out honestly. If anything, this could also probably be a 3rd party fighting game controller for anyone with the classic Fatal Fury games on the switch ...and it makes way more sense build wise than whatever Sony was doing with the PS5 Access Controller Good video overall! Definitely helped me pick my purchase!
I am glad the video helped you. Let us know what your thoughts are on the controller. I carry my Lite controller everyday with me. Thanks for watching.
@@BackNTheBox Just got mine today and was surprised i could still play Ocarina of Time even though it's 3D. While it doesn't have an analog stick, it's definitely playable!
I'm between the lite 2 and Sn30pro for iPad gaming. Mainly Minecraft, and maybe some FPS and racing games. I'll probably keep it in my backpack. A perfect balance between size and comfort is what I'm looking for. Any thoughts on which to go with?
I found the lite 2 really lacking in the sticks, and if you play racing games you should get a controller with analog sticks for acceleration. The sticks on the lite 2 just felt weak, and would not last being slide into and out of my backpack. So I would go with the sn30pro. The controller I really liked and have yet to finish the review video is the CRKD NeoS controller. For a retro style controller it was very comfortable and the buttons and sticks were some of the best I've played on. Thanks for the question and comment.
I just wish the SE didn't have extra sensitive buttons and sticks. While I respect the reason they made them this way, it's a shame that there is no other controller where the shoulder and stick buttons are face buttons. It'd be even better if they were placed on the back in my opinion.
Looking for a gamepad to carry around with my Windows tablet. Was thinking of the original Lite, but not having L3/R3 is a dealbreaker since some games require you to use them. So thanks for pointing out. However, I'm also not convinced with analog sticks quality, so I'm wondering are there any 3rd party covers for those.
Actually someone commented that you can press the dpads down for L3 and R3. While I tried this in my testing for the video it seems I didn’t press hard enough and in the exact spot for it to work. So you can do it, it just requires a harder touch.
@@BackNTheBox it seems Lite has even more probles than that: 1. Apparently big R/L buttons are shoulder buttons, not triggers. So if I'll try to use Lite 1 in any racing game - I'll have to accelerate/brake with those tiny round buttons. And their remapping software Ultimate does not support Lite models at all. 2. What's left is Lite 2/SE. And both don't support DirectX's X-input I need, only S-input (iOS) and D-input (Android). It seems unless a user needs Lite 1's portability SN30 Pro is just better at everything else over Lite 2: thinner overall, has X-input, has rumble motor for vibration, has larger analog sticks, and Android version (not wired or Xbox one) is also supported in their Ultimate software.
@@ОсликИа-я2ыI use the Lite SE to play Path of Exile on PC. You need to buy the USB receiver by 8BitDo. The controller pairs to the receiver, not the device. You then plug the USB into your computer and calibrate with Steam if needed. The Lite SE does not use the Ultimate Software. It's fine, though. It can even be used while browsing the Internet like other controllers, if you want to do that. The one issue is the triggers not being shoulder buttons. It's not comfortable for shooters or other games where you must hold down a trigger while using abilities and moving both sticks. However, it's really really nice if you play isometric games and especially if you have carpal tunnel, like I do. The buttons are incredibly easy to press and responsive. On occasion it will do something strange, but turning it off and then on again fixes the issue. So I think it's software related.
These controllers will connect to iOS for use in Delta. I’ve been using the Lite with Delta. I paired the switch mode to my iPad and the xinput to my phone. If n64 is what you really want to play on delta I would recommend the Lite 2 since it has analog sticks.
As always there is lag in any bluetooth controller, and 8bitdo controllers have registered more lag then first party controllers. But the amount of lag is still within a frame of response (unless refresh rate of monitor is above 60hz). I played the new Mario game Wonder and had no issues with lag.
Thanks for watching and the constructive criticism. I agree this video was a lot of talking. My goal for this video was to highlight differences that a hands-on comparison could demonstrate. The websites for the controllers clearly state what each controller can connect to, so my thought was to focus on the impressions of the controllers physically. Going forward I will take your input into consideration. I know there are a lot of other videos and channels covering the same subjects, so I hope to provide some info or opinions that are new.
@@BackNTheBox I was looking at these 3 controllers and I think your detailed review is just fine and actually one of the best ones out there if you ask me. It helped me decide to buy the Lite with the bigger D-Pad since I'm looking to use it with platformers and 2D games.
The 8bitdo lite left and right dpads CAN be center pressed to register the L3 or R3 stick click, you just have to press hard right in the center. Its not all that easy to do the L3/R3 input, but it at least makes it so you never press L3/R3 by accident when using the dpads normally.
After retrying and press very hard they do register l3 and r3. Like you said it’s not easy. In my testing I must have pressed it up to very point it would activate. Thanks for watching and the comment. This will make it even better for retroarch usage. Still would have preferred buttons for them like the SE
fantastic. Thank you for this review.
Glad it was helpful, and thanks for watching.
Your voice is soothing as you explain tech oh man.
i actually picked lite 2 because of the analogs. i wanted small and compact controller to use with my pc and smartphone, and analogs were must have for ps2 and psp emulation. I use it with my switch too, but i usually play splatoon 3 and bigger pro controller helps me with aiming. for analogs resistance, i'm keeping it in bag full of university and girl stuff for almost one year and they're still working perfectly fine. if someone's searching for ultra light and very small controller with analogs, i highly recommend it, but lite 1 would work better if you're planning to play some retro or retro style games, like snes games, sonic mania, celeste or stardew valley
Thank you for thoughts and comments. Glad to hear that they are holding up and that speaks to their durability.
I think it's really sweet the SE controller had as many features as it does. Not only does it have motion detection and that pad thing on the back, but I never would've thought the L3 and R3 buttons would've worked out honestly. If anything, this could also probably be a 3rd party fighting game controller for anyone with the classic Fatal Fury games on the switch
...and it makes way more sense build wise than whatever Sony was doing with the PS5 Access Controller
Good video overall! Definitely helped me pick my purchase!
I am glad the video helped you. Let us know what your thoughts are on the controller. I carry my Lite controller everyday with me. Thanks for watching.
Yup, i completely agree with you chosing the Lite 1 based on the exact same thoughts i had.
Glad you enjoyed the video. I still carry the micro controller with me, but the lite is what I use most often. Thanks for watching.
@@BackNTheBox Just got mine today and was surprised i could still play Ocarina of Time even though it's 3D. While it doesn't have an analog stick, it's definitely playable!
Nice review
On the website says it only supports switch and adroid.. Will it work on ios and steam at windows?
It work with PC. Both cable and Bluetooth.
I'm between the lite 2 and Sn30pro for iPad gaming. Mainly Minecraft, and maybe some FPS and racing games. I'll probably keep it in my backpack. A perfect balance between size and comfort is what I'm looking for. Any thoughts on which to go with?
I found the lite 2 really lacking in the sticks, and if you play racing games you should get a controller with analog sticks for acceleration. The sticks on the lite 2 just felt weak, and would not last being slide into and out of my backpack. So I would go with the sn30pro. The controller I really liked and have yet to finish the review video is the CRKD NeoS controller. For a retro style controller it was very comfortable and the buttons and sticks were some of the best I've played on.
Thanks for the question and comment.
@ I'll check that one out! Similar in size to the others?
The NeoS is slightly larger than the Sn30pro. The lite 2 is very thin so the NeoS would seem like double the size of the lite 2.
I just wish the SE didn't have extra sensitive buttons and sticks. While I respect the reason they made them this way, it's a shame that there is no other controller where the shoulder and stick buttons are face buttons. It'd be even better if they were placed on the back in my opinion.
Looking for a gamepad to carry around with my Windows tablet. Was thinking of the original Lite, but not having L3/R3 is a dealbreaker since some games require you to use them. So thanks for pointing out. However, I'm also not convinced with analog sticks quality, so I'm wondering are there any 3rd party covers for those.
Actually someone commented that you can press the dpads down for L3 and R3. While I tried this in my testing for the video it seems I didn’t press hard enough and in the exact spot for it to work. So you can do it, it just requires a harder touch.
@@BackNTheBoxOh, OK, I'll keep that in mind, thanks again
@@BackNTheBox it seems Lite has even more probles than that:
1. Apparently big R/L buttons are shoulder buttons, not triggers. So if I'll try to use Lite 1 in any racing game - I'll have to accelerate/brake with those tiny round buttons. And their remapping software Ultimate does not support Lite models at all.
2. What's left is Lite 2/SE. And both don't support DirectX's X-input I need, only S-input (iOS) and D-input (Android).
It seems unless a user needs Lite 1's portability SN30 Pro is just better at everything else over Lite 2: thinner overall, has X-input, has rumble motor for vibration, has larger analog sticks, and Android version (not wired or Xbox one) is also supported in their Ultimate software.
@@ОсликИа-я2ыI use the Lite SE to play Path of Exile on PC. You need to buy the USB receiver by 8BitDo. The controller pairs to the receiver, not the device. You then plug the USB into your computer and calibrate with Steam if needed.
The Lite SE does not use the Ultimate Software. It's fine, though.
It can even be used while browsing the Internet like other controllers, if you want to do that.
The one issue is the triggers not being shoulder buttons. It's not comfortable for shooters or other games where you must hold down a trigger while using abilities and moving both sticks.
However, it's really really nice if you play isometric games and especially if you have carpal tunnel, like I do.
The buttons are incredibly easy to press and responsive.
On occasion it will do something strange, but turning it off and then on again fixes the issue. So I think it's software related.
Hi does these work with iOS for playing retro games via the recently released Delta emulator app? Thanks
These controllers will connect to iOS for use in Delta. I’ve been using the Lite with Delta. I paired the switch mode to my iPad and the xinput to my phone. If n64 is what you really want to play on delta I would recommend the Lite 2 since it has analog sticks.
@@BackNTheBox Many thanks for the reply, that’s great to hear! Do you think the Lite 2 would need a travel case as well for when going on a plane?
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Thanks for watching and subscribing! Working on a couple of new videos including a controller. To compare to the 8bitdo controllers.
I just need one to play retro games on my phone like new snea n64 sega and maybe ps1
I’ve been using the Lite. Slips well into the backpack without it having joysticks sticking out.
input lag?
As always there is lag in any bluetooth controller, and 8bitdo controllers have registered more lag then first party controllers. But the amount of lag is still within a frame of response (unless refresh rate of monitor is above 60hz). I played the new Mario game Wonder and had no issues with lag.
Where is information about connectivity between windows?steam?xbox?android????? wtf is this too much talk and no serious information. dislike for that
Thanks for watching and the constructive criticism. I agree this video was a lot of talking. My goal for this video was to highlight differences that a hands-on comparison could demonstrate. The websites for the controllers clearly state what each controller can connect to, so my thought was to focus on the impressions of the controllers physically. Going forward I will take your input into consideration. I know there are a lot of other videos and channels covering the same subjects, so I hope to provide some info or opinions that are new.
@@BackNTheBox I was looking at these 3 controllers and I think your detailed review is just fine and actually one of the best ones out there if you ask me. It helped me decide to buy the Lite with the bigger D-Pad since I'm looking to use it with platformers and 2D games.