Best Coffee Brewer: Clever Dripper vs V60
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- Опубліковано 27 лис 2022
- Which home coffee brewer is the best for you? Today we put two of our favourite coffee products to the test: the @harionjp vs the Clever Coffee Dripper. Both brew really nice cups of coffee at home. Both look very similar. But these are two totally different products. So, which one is best for you?
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I'm a huge fan of the Clever Coffee Dripper. I have been drinking coffee for nearly 60 years, I've used every imaginable way to make coffee. This simple, logical device creates the best coffee I have ever tasted. And yes, it can be compared with the French Press until it comes to the cleanup!
Wait, it’s that old 💀 ?
@@thatkid139 No
You can use clever dripper as perciuation one...Just treat it as if v60, just put clever on kraf all time. Advantaga is that you interrupt flow of water down to kraf any time you wanted, you do real v60 blooming for example and continue like normal clever etc. Lots of lots possibilities. 2 minites is too short for immersion for me. I do 4-5 min.
I was today years old when I learned the "60" in V60 was for 60 degrees.
I can't do a good v60 to save my life, but the clever gives me the coffee the way i like it.
Thank you for the great video.
I love my Clever coffee hugs. Best thing I bought this year.
Definitely going to use this one more often. Brews a really nice cup of coffee.
We travel a lot and love finding new coffee shops but when we can we like to brew coffee ourselves in our campervan. We have both the clever dripper and a v60 (yes it's overkill, but worth it 😂) and sometimes we just need the coffee to be made nice and easily so we would tend to lean a bit towards the clever dripper a bit more. It's just so much simpler. Don't get us wrong though, we LOVE our v60!!!
Here's a real minimalist tip for travellers: Get a cloth filter, or "coffee sock". That's all you need! You can either: 1) put the filter directly in a cup, throw in the grounds, and pour over for a single cup. Or 2) if you're making more than 1 cup, mix the grounds in hot water in a separate vessel, and then pour the mix through the filter. Super simple, minimal, and absolutely delicious!
great brewing uncle!
I really enjoyed the video, I’m a micro roaster in Dubai.
Keep up the good work
As someone who has stomach problems but still love my coffee, the clever sounds like the way to go👌
I make coffee at work most often, so my v60 and my hand grinder live there. I keep the Clever at home for the weekends when I actually make coffee (not as often because I usually get something when I get donuts for my kids), but especially I use it on trips, because it's indestructible and easy to throw in a bag and it doesn't care what kind of kettle I have at my destination. Randomly, my friends' wives seem to like the coffee from the Clever more than the drip coffee or French presses our vacation places invariably make available.
And as a random aside, my daughter liked that you wanted a coffee hug. 🤗
I thought for sure you would mess up the clever dripper technique. But was pleasantly surprised that you pretty much aced it.
I brew with the V60, the Cleverdripper, and the Aeropress, and I find they all have their strengths and weaknesses. My V60 method is nearly identical to yours, same ratio as well. However I often prefer to get the full coffee experience, oils and all, without filters, so I use my Aeropress with one of those stainless steel screens rather then the round filters. This is also preferable to my French Press which, I agree with others, is a pain to clean. Nice review!
Definitely think you get a more nuanced #coffee with the v60. But, I do like how hands-off the Clever dripper. I will use the Clever at times in the future for sure.
Might check out the popular Hario Switch which is both a V60 and an Immersion all in one.
Yup, it's on our list. I've heard amazing things.
Nice vid!!
For those who like a little stronger coffee when using the clever grind your coffee just like you would for the pour over, yet use 25g of coffee to 300ml of water, I also add half my water first and then the coffee to steap, then at the 45 second mark add the rest of the water, give a stir and let set for 1 minute 20 seconds then break the crust and put it on my cup to fall, makes it more clean and crisp since you release the gas more that way.
Thanks for a really nice video. Ideas for tests. I think there is an add on making v60 become an immersion like Clever. I like Clever but often take out the first lighter water after 1 minute and then pour it back into the clever.
I would be interested if either of these Clever techniques would be better or worse than Hario V60 with the add on (named Switch??) That little plug? costs more than 2 entire Clever I believe so quite overpriced, but is it better than my clever technique avoiding the side water? some other interesting techniques is to use espresso machine in a blooming process, and for lazy clean taste, espresso through paper filter with added 80 C water, clean cup.
Love my Clever. I put in the water first and then the coffee.
I love my daily mug of pour over (Team Kalita), doesn't get better than that.
I first bought a V60; then I got a Clever, so I could make a consistent "8 out of 10" to benchmark my V60 cups against, while I figure it out.
I'm a Chemex on the weekends type of guy, because I have the time. I use the Clever D during the week, when I don't want to fuss around. after a few years of being a coffee novice, I have had some amazingly good cups at home and at coffee shop 'cuppings.' What I always find interesting is the 'tasting notes.' I hardly ever agree with the tasing notes on the label, lol. Maybe it's just me... 😅
Well I do the pore over for me I don’t need a scale water at certain temp swishing it swirling it in and all that I just put water on let it do it today and drink my coffee and enjoy the rest of the day. That’s just me because I don’t have time for all that.
I've used both for years, and keep using them cause neither is "best". They both work well with different coffees and expectations.
Facts. I honestly thought we'd keep the clever around just for the review and then tuck it into the back of the coffee shop never to be seen again. But, both myself and staff use it a lot, actually!
As easygoing as the clever dripper looks regarding brewing, there is nothing better than the coffee a well-prepared V60 can offer you. I am #V60 all the way!
I put my grinds in the Clever Dripper first, pour water over it, my dripper never got clogged. I wash my dripper as soon my coffee is done. Never any clogged grinds whatsoever. I find the V60 not as good.
V60 is my go to at home. Unless I have guests in which case Chemex. Or I want to show off in which case syphon 😊
Curious, where do you este Syphon on the quality of the cup?
Percolator?
Very interesting comparison. I just wonder if you could dual use the Clever Dripper as a V60 when you set it on a cup right at the start so the drip gate is always open like a V60 WHILE you are brewing. Would it even work or is the gate drip hole to big and would drip to fast in comparison to a V60? Could you compensate with a finer grind or would it taste way to bitter? In short, is using the Clever Dripper as a v60 a sensible idea?
It's something i thought about too. I'm going to test it, but the combination of the larger hole on the base of the clever, plus the ridges on the side might make the water pass too quick.
But i think there's a video there to test it! Good idea.
@@thestudio.coffee NOICE! Looking forward to it. Might not work out but hey, it's the journey that counts and the coffees that we make along. ☺👍
I'd recommend the Hario switch (and maybe the clever dripper glass variant) to test that.
How about brewing with the Clever in two stages: pour half the water first, let it soak half the time, drip, and then repeat. Would you get "the best of both worlds"?
"I like a slightly stronger coffee, I think standard is about 15g, I tend to do about 20g in my coffee".
Where is the standard for a 300ml pour 15g of coffee? That seems very weak at 1:20 where the usual standard is 1:15, which is what you end up using anyway (20g to 300ml), just curious
Standard is about 1:16, you're right.
Stronger was the wrong word. I should have said "more volume" or bigger. Standard is about 15g coffee to 240ml of water. I tend to go 20g to 300ml (1:15).
@@thestudio.coffee I got ya, makes sense. I struggle with a 250ml pour, just not enough!
Hario Switch ❤
All of my pour overs aren't making the coffee hot enough. Not sure how to fix this.
Are you preheating the brewer - and whatever your brewing the coffee into (mug)? That helps a lot.
So, which on are you? Are you on team #v60 or team #clever?
We love both methods, but think there's nothing that can compare to that clean v60 flavour!
What brand is your coffee grinder at 3:10? AND-- What brand are the scales?
That's just the hario v60 grinder. The scales are also hario.
@@thestudio.coffee Thanks! Just found your channel and trying to improve the quality of my cup of coffee.
@@thestudio.coffee Ack. I cannot buy that grinder--it's not found on Amazon Hario site.
James Hoffman immersed the coffee for 5 minutes. Not sure if you're doing it right.
Clever dripper looks more like a Melitta brewer, that has the same shape and long V bottom rather than the cone shape.
I don't have a v60 but I prefer the coffee I get from the chemex to the clever. I thought the clever would give me a more French press like cup, but it is not as bold. I don't know how to explain it. It lacks the body of a FP but doesn't have the crispness of a pour over. It gives an advantage over neither, imo. Not to say that it makes bad coffee. It just doesn't make better coffee, for me. Plus, I kind of like the pour over thing, lol.
I feel the same way. The coffee is always like 7-8/10. Which is awesome that you know that you’ll be getting a good cup wherever whenever. The problem is that you just won’t get an absolute lovely cup ever.
I agree with that statement. And I think your assessment on the clever is spot on. It's not quite as body heavy as the French Press, but not as crisp and nuanced as a pour over. It kind of sits in between the two.
20 grams to how much water?
On the clever I do 20g of coffee to 300ml of water
Clever for me.
Definitely a product we're going to use a bit more at home - especially when in a hurry!
@@thestudio.coffee definitely time saving, I don't use a scale as I have already fixed my water volume and pre-measured my beans in little packs, and use mobile phone timer.
Plus it is very "forgiving" and clean cup, compare to French press (immersion) .
@@wanyeng I am new to all the different types of brewing coffee, just searching online what brewing method would be best for me primarily what fits best my personal taste. If time and convenience is of no importance, what would be your preferred brewing method? Would you say they are closer or further apart in taste?
@@d1oftwins hi, i only learnt to enjoy drinking coffee without milk in recent months. I tried the clever, dripped and French press and moka pot too. Most of the time I got bitter or sour coffee. So now I usually use clever dripper. I fixed the grind size and amount for my dripper size. If I have lazy weekend, I would like to dabble with my French press and cloth filter, still trying to find a taste I enjoy. The taste was quite different, I guess would be the filter would affect the oils. It is is a rabbit hole journey but fun.
@@wanyeng Thanks for your answer, I am not even close the rabbit hole you find yourself in right now...yet.
Well then, the Clever Dripper it is. I would never be able to sell my wife on the work involved with the V60.
How is a French Press difficult to clean? You remove the screen, rinse it under water. Done. You then add a little water to the pitcher and swirl the grinds on the bottom. You dump the coffee sludge into a small plastic bag and throw away. I buy 1,000 of these small bags from Grainger for $20. You rinse the pitcher of remaining grinds. Done. So simple. It takes me 30 seconds to clean my French Press and I've used the same one for 20 years.
But then: 1) you're using a lot of single use plastic. 2) An aeropress takes 2 seconds to clean, dump the coffee and then rinse the base.
@@thestudio.coffee With an Aeropress, you're pouring hot water into plastic. They can say all they want about Tritan plastic but I don't buy it. In order to shape plastic, "plasticizers" aka chemicals are use to soften, shape, and harden plastic. I'm sure that cancer causing chemicals leach into your coffee. On the plus side for the Aeropress, at least hot water doesn't come into contact with plastic for long amounts of time. My French Press, however, is entirely metal and glass. No plastic anywhere. You'd be surprised how little plastic is used to make 1,000 plastic bags, far less than the large garbage bags used in curbside trash cans. Also, I don't just use the bag for coffee. I live in a NYC apartment and every night I dump my trash so as not to attract mice and cockroaches. I use the little bags for coffee but also for all other trash for the day. If it's just coffee, I'll use the bag for the next day too. Besides, if you order Uber Eats or Grubhub, so much plastic is involved. I do most of my cooking at home and collect very little plastic. I don't drive a car either.
@@davidhunternyc1 I feel like those are valid points/reasons. :D
@@thestudio.coffee I just thought of something too. I'm baking homemade bread right now. I just proofed a loaf in the fridge overnight. I used the same small plastic bag over my proofing basket to keep the bread moist while proofing. Now that the bread is in the oven, I'll use the same plastic bag for coffee grinds and kitchen scraps tomorrow. The footprint for these thin plastic bags is very small and they are multi-use.
your audio is very inconsistent...
Он кофе в воду закинул😂😂😂
Sorry, I prefer less performance art at 6 AM.
I need coffee before my performance art.