Fun fact, In the series riders of Berk, the scauldron is poisonous! It’s the only dragon that isn’t poisoned by the blue oleander, and eats its flowers. Its venom can be used as an antidote to the flowers.
Tidal class is my favorite class, however I’d love to see more outlandish ideas they could do with a sea dragon. The sea shocker was a nice addition, but I’d love to see an octopus dragon or something. And maybe less legs more fins. It’s weird that most of them have legs when many are just aquatic.
Fun fact, the purple death is actually based off the books, and it was actually originally a NAME of a dragon, not the species. The species itself was called the Sea Dragonus Giganticus, explaining the Tidal class classification.
Concerning the Sand Wraith, I actually don’t think it’s that closely related to the Night Fury. Rather, I think it’s a case of convergent evolution, in which the Sand Wraith and Night Fury evolved in similar ways (general body shape, tail ornamentation, built for speed and stealth) due to similar evolutionary pressures, despite not being so closely related. That would explain the different classes.
Yeah but the sand wraith is not built for speed, rather for ambushing from under the sand. The night fury probably evolved from it as it found more success being strike than waiting around for prey to appear in less sandy regions.
I actually think that Sand Wraiths share a common ancestor with the Night Fury that diverged into the two species. Sand Wraiths stayed ambush hunters while Night Furies became the nimble, agile beasts that we know and love. It would makes sense seeing their similar builds and other physical features. Thats just what I think, who knows maybe im wrong or whatever, i don't even know much about the dragons outside the movies.
I highly doubt it's convergent evolution, they are way too similar for that to be the case. biologically they are literally just spikey night furies. I think its glaringly obvious that night furies, light furies, sand wraiths and woolly howls are furies and very closely related
I loved HTTYD as a kid because I had a soft spot for dragons and I still do! Not only they befriended my favorite creatures there but they were also so diverse, unique, real thank to small details I love to research. Your video is great, if only little me knew English well back then she would be thrilled. I have to catch up with another episodes I really enjoy your analysis (and I agree, some shouldn't be in Tidal class), your editing and humor :)! Keep up the good work!
I feel like the sand dragons being Tidal class isn’t that outlandish, they swim through sand as if it was water. Either way I think the Sandbuster and Sand Wraith should be in the same class, its weird that they aren’t. As for the Windwalker, while I agree it fits best for Strike, I do understand the Tidal class description. I think it’s meant to reference albatross, where it spends its entire life flying in the skies above the ocean, rarely venturing beyond the shore. I also imagine that the electricity and water are probably its canon abilities, with the fire in Rise of Berk just being an error as it uses the exact same fire model as most other dragons in that game.
You're right that the sand wraith and the sandbuster should be in the same class. When first described as an ambush dragon that swims through sand, people literally thought it would be a sand wraith
I think if you think of the Sandwraith as something of a mudskipper fish, or draw the comparisons to a flounder more it has an argument for staying tidal, considering there is a description for its behavior. The Windwalker, I think has a strong argument for tidal class if you compare it to sea birds. Something like an osprey or an albatross- detecting storms, diving for food, and using the unique ocean winds to fly long distances
yeah but what about shallow water like maybe the sand wraith hunts in the water which is shallow but deepish And wind walker being like a sea bird or is it just recently evolved to live in the water which makes it lack most features of the tidal class I mean do all dragons need to fit in some are similar but just different
Could, perhaps like the Submaripper was erroneously, the Sand Wraith fit into multiple classes? It looks like a Night Fury, burrows in sand, shoots sand balls, and I presume all subspecies are semi-aquatic.
@@okebedoke That's not exactly the same: as NewOrca stated in his NOT Tracker Class video, Nadders are more Sharp than Tracker, especially since they are the poster child for Sharp Class.
To be fair, Windwalker was based off a species in the books, who was Hiccup's riding dragon. It's appearance is almost one for one, unlike some book species. In the books they were "Sky Dragons" (the books used a different classification system) and it was also a speedy dragon that had electric blasts. Likely should have translated into Strike.
I also like the purple death, because it’s a reference to the first how to train your dragon, book, with the green and purple death being both massive sea dragons
Was lots of fun working with ya on this one. Have to say I didnt know about some of the abilities these bois have, like the TideGliders acid, (note which take do you folks prefare? RiseOfBerk where it doesnt have back legs or SchoolOfDragons where it does? Im the former) or the Krayfin and its giant size or firepower, which looks like its a glob of oil that is ignited. I do wander about some of the ones that can stay underwater for days without surfacing, they are either breathing though their skin like some amphibians do or like some turtles, especially those specialized in diving, are highly reliant on cloacal respiration during dives. They accomplish this by having a pair of accessory air bladders connected to the cloaca which can absorb oxygen from the water. Basically they breath with their buts.
On the subject of tidal class dragons being able to go without oxygen for long periods of time, even the submaripper staying underwater for days, because they are reptiles the best explanation is that they could have similar structures to that of aquatic turtles, in that some species of turtle possess a pair of accessory air bladders connected to the cloaca which can absorb oxygen from the water. This is a process called Enteral Respiration or Cloacal Respiration, which is just sucking water up the butt and diffusing oxygen from it, a process similar to gills but because dragons are reptiles they don't have those.
For the Luminous Crayfin, it seems like it’s firepower might be something equivalent to a depth charge, so while not very useful on land or in the skies, when dealing with rival tidal class dragons, it’s an incredibly effective weapon. Of course that’s speculation, maybe it’s just a big fireball as shown in the concept art.
I haven't seen anything from train ur dragon or whatever it's called in English in years, but it was really interesting and your edit style was funny and refreshing. great video❤
This video is amazing on everything, this dude should make more content about this, Tidal Class is one of my favourites, along with Mystery and Strike.
Personally I agree with the Sand Wraith being a tidal class dragon, it has large lungs and able to stay in the water for long periods of time, said by the website, and it's habitat the beach provides close connection the the ocean so I would imagine ocean fish would be its food source in which it would hunt in the ocean. It's sandy colour suggests it could spend a lot of time close to the sea bed or resting on beaches but overall I think it's a tidal class.
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Thank you, I needed some help figuring out how the sand wraith is in tidal class. It's my fav dragon, as you can probably tell by my pfp, yet I really don't know a tone about it and am trying to learn
Y'know, I think the Krayfin actually uses these special things cavitation bubbles. They're hotter than lightening and pretty intense. You see it a lot when talking about mantis shrimp, because the force they hit things with causes them (Which is also why they're referred to as tank breakers cause they 100% will shatter glass fish tanks)
Purple Death is the strongest dragon we’ve seen by far. Over the years I’ve felt like the only person that gave this dragon attention. Purple Death is my 2nd favorite dragon.
Bit late, but the books have some content im not sure if we're counting as cannon, but all dragons are actually amphibious, as well as Sea Dragonus Giganticus Maximus being 1. A fun thing to say and 2. The Purple Death's species
I'm so much of a Sand Wraith lover. I believe it should definitely be either Boulder or Strike. It's hard to pick which one, but in my opinion, it has more Boulder class traits than Strike class traits.
In the books hiccups riding dragon is called a windwalker and the 2nd fastest dragon in the world and the windwalker in this is almost a match to how the windwalker in the books looks so my guess is they put it in as a nod to the books but it didn't like up with any of the classification so they just put it in tidel class for easy. But the books are good and you should read them they are very different to the films in a good way but there are 12 of them but it is very Very much worth it
My hypotheses: the sliquifer (pronounced like slick and aquifer combined, without the ‘ah’ sound) is a distant relative of the scauldron, having separated from that lineage in a similar way with dolphins from whales. So we could call them the cetacean dragons. I also think that Whispering Deaths share a common ancestor with Thunderdrums, as they have very similar jaws, body shapes, and wing placement. The legs of Whispering Deaths could have just gone vestigial, while the scream came from the fact that concave jaws make for great echo chambers.
But the Tidal Wave, while kinda similar at least in theory, is not related to scauldrons at all. Oddly enough, it seems like its hind legs, of all things, had evolved into wings. I think this puts it separate from pretty much any other dragon in all HTTYD. On the other hand, all four of the scauldron’s four legs became vestigial. I do wonder where the tidal maker’s back wings could have gone… tis a mystery!
The Seashocker likely can't fly due to the electrocytes required for its defensive ability, considering electric eels' electrocytes make up 80% of their body mass which otherwise would be the normal muscle that could be used for flight, aside from the morphological changes required for them to fly in the first place.
The Luminous Krayfin's "fire" attack almost looks like the bubble that a pistol shrimp can shoot out, which are Really fast, super hot, and have an explosive pop
I dont know if you have noticed but i sencerely want you to check out 7:49 i dont think that picture is supposed to be on youtube or you might get demonetized
Fun fact, In the series riders of Berk, the scauldron is poisonous! It’s the only dragon that isn’t poisoned by the blue oleander, and eats its flowers. Its venom can be used as an antidote to the flowers.
yah can confirm my fault we know that
Tidal class is my favorite class, however I’d love to see more outlandish ideas they could do with a sea dragon. The sea shocker was a nice addition, but I’d love to see an octopus dragon or something. And maybe less legs more fins. It’s weird that most of them have legs when many are just aquatic.
There’s an octopus dragon in the nine realms
@@diaborodevil3161 nine realms ain't canon
I think it'll look like a mix of the Brickleback from Sea Beast, Slattern from Pacific Rim or something
@@iprogamer3439 Just take the dragons from it, and discard everything else.
@@Miron_Marnicand Alex
Fun fact, the purple death is actually based off the books, and it was actually originally a NAME of a dragon, not the species. The species itself was called the Sea Dragonus Giganticus, explaining the Tidal class classification.
Yes dat true I have the book
Windwalker too
sea dragonus giganticuus maximus actually
books are better
Concerning the Sand Wraith, I actually don’t think it’s that closely related to the Night Fury. Rather, I think it’s a case of convergent evolution, in which the Sand Wraith and Night Fury evolved in similar ways (general body shape, tail ornamentation, built for speed and stealth) due to similar evolutionary pressures, despite not being so closely related. That would explain the different classes.
Yeah but the sand wraith is not built for speed, rather for ambushing from under the sand. The night fury probably evolved from it as it found more success being strike than waiting around for prey to appear in less sandy regions.
Also their facial structure, leg size and build and fin shape and location seems wayyy to similar to be convergent evolution
I actually think that Sand Wraiths share a common ancestor with the Night Fury that diverged into the two species. Sand Wraiths stayed ambush hunters while Night Furies became the nimble, agile beasts that we know and love. It would makes sense seeing their similar builds and other physical features. Thats just what I think, who knows maybe im wrong or whatever, i don't even know much about the dragons outside the movies.
I highly doubt it's convergent evolution, they are way too similar for that to be the case. biologically they are literally just spikey night furies. I think its glaringly obvious that night furies, light furies, sand wraiths and woolly howls are furies and very closely related
The different class is just because sand wraiths live near water
I loved HTTYD as a kid because I had a soft spot for dragons and I still do! Not only they befriended my favorite creatures there but they were also so diverse, unique, real thank to small details I love to research. Your video is great, if only little me knew English well back then she would be thrilled. I have to catch up with another episodes I really enjoy your analysis (and I agree, some shouldn't be in Tidal class), your editing and humor :)! Keep up the good work!
You should play monster hunter world
I feel like the sand dragons being Tidal class isn’t that outlandish, they swim through sand as if it was water. Either way I think the Sandbuster and Sand Wraith should be in the same class, its weird that they aren’t.
As for the Windwalker, while I agree it fits best for Strike, I do understand the Tidal class description. I think it’s meant to reference albatross, where it spends its entire life flying in the skies above the ocean, rarely venturing beyond the shore. I also imagine that the electricity and water are probably its canon abilities, with the fire in Rise of Berk just being an error as it uses the exact same fire model as most other dragons in that game.
You're right that the sand wraith and the sandbuster should be in the same class. When first described as an ambush dragon that swims through sand, people literally thought it would be a sand wraith
The sand Raith he looks like night fury's head
"Sonic blast. Sorry, SONIC BLAST!!" *Proceeds to turn scottish*
tbh I am part Scottish so it fits XD
I think if you think of the Sandwraith as something of a mudskipper fish, or draw the comparisons to a flounder more it has an argument for staying tidal, considering there is a description for its behavior. The Windwalker, I think has a strong argument for tidal class if you compare it to sea birds. Something like an osprey or an albatross- detecting storms, diving for food, and using the unique ocean winds to fly long distances
yeah but what about shallow water like maybe the sand wraith hunts in the water which is shallow but deepish
And wind walker being like a sea bird or is it just recently evolved to live in the water which makes it lack most features of the tidal class
I mean do all dragons need to fit in some are similar but just different
Could, perhaps like the Submaripper was erroneously, the Sand Wraith fit into multiple classes? It looks like a Night Fury, burrows in sand, shoots sand balls, and I presume all subspecies are semi-aquatic.
@@okebedoke That's not exactly the same: as NewOrca stated in his NOT Tracker Class video, Nadders are more Sharp than Tracker, especially since they are the poster child for Sharp Class.
To be fair, Windwalker was based off a species in the books, who was Hiccup's riding dragon. It's appearance is almost one for one, unlike some book species. In the books they were "Sky Dragons" (the books used a different classification system) and it was also a speedy dragon that had electric blasts. Likely should have translated into Strike.
*AH YES MY FAVORITE CLASS OF DRAGONS,THE "FEESH"*
FEESH
He did a Thing! (where is my cheesey boi)
You’re stuck in 2017
I just wanted to say thank you to orca for including my scauldran art 2:21 this means so much too me
Thank you for making it!
I love how amazed you are at the fact that the dragon literally called "shellfire" can indeed fire shells
I also like the purple death, because it’s a reference to the first how to train your dragon, book, with the green and purple death being both massive sea dragons
Was lots of fun working with ya on this one. Have to say I didnt know about some of the abilities these bois have, like the TideGliders acid, (note which take do you folks prefare? RiseOfBerk where it doesnt have back legs or SchoolOfDragons where it does? Im the former) or the Krayfin and its giant size or firepower, which looks like its a glob of oil that is ignited.
I do wander about some of the ones that can stay underwater for days without surfacing, they are either breathing though their skin like some amphibians do or like some turtles, especially those specialized in diving, are highly reliant on cloacal respiration during dives. They accomplish this by having a pair of accessory air bladders connected to the cloaca which can absorb oxygen from the water. Basically they breath with their buts.
Yeh thanks for the amazing pieces, looking forward to working with you in the future 😊
The SoD tide glider has back legs because they reused the scauldron rig and animations. The Rise of berk version looks much more unique.
These videos single handedly sent me back into my httyd hyperfixation thank you so much I've been having a blast ♥️
Well I've got plenty more to talk about 😜
As always very anticipated and you delivered!
I think Sand Wrath has a bit of a case for being a striker. I get why you said Bolder but it's not not a striker.
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Babe wake up, NewOrca posted a dragon class video.
brother?
On the subject of tidal class dragons being able to go without oxygen for long periods of time, even the submaripper staying underwater for days, because they are reptiles the best explanation is that they could have similar structures to that of aquatic turtles, in that some species of turtle possess a pair of accessory air bladders connected to the cloaca which can absorb oxygen from the water. This is a process called Enteral Respiration or Cloacal Respiration, which is just sucking water up the butt and diffusing oxygen from it, a process similar to gills but because dragons are reptiles they don't have those.
0:33 oh yeah I wouldn’t be dead I’d have drank so much alcohol I’d have turned into a bottle of alcohol myself.
The way I gasped when you pulled up that Ocean Gate pic!!!!
For the Luminous Crayfin, it seems like it’s firepower might be something equivalent to a depth charge, so while not very useful on land or in the skies, when dealing with rival tidal class dragons, it’s an incredibly effective weapon. Of course that’s speculation, maybe it’s just a big fireball as shown in the concept art.
I haven't seen anything from train ur dragon or whatever it's called in English in years, but it was really interesting and your edit style was funny and refreshing. great video❤
Thank you!
Yet another amazing video by you! Love these!!
5:17 The dragon looks like a silkwing for wings of fire. Tidal glider is my favorite because it dances 🤩
This video is amazing on everything, this dude should make more content about this, Tidal Class is one of my favourites, along with Mystery and Strike.
I could've sworn i heard a sharktopus sound effect in this video
Personally I agree with the Sand Wraith being a tidal class dragon, it has large lungs and able to stay in the water for long periods of time, said by the website, and it's habitat the beach provides close connection the the ocean so I would imagine ocean fish would be its food source in which it would hunt in the ocean. It's sandy colour suggests it could spend a lot of time close to the sea bed or resting on beaches but overall I think it's a tidal class.
19:24 i think is more like some sort high pressure bubble like the pistol shrimp can produce but with its mouth
The Shellfire and Bewilderbeast are my favorite tidal class dragons.
Great video ❤
Thank you ♥️
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I’ve waited so gid damn long for this Video.
Les go I love you man I have been waiting for this video your content is so fire I love it
Another great explainer! Honoured to be a part of the vid!
6:57 bro I accidentally passed without realizing and I landed on this work of art 😂
The breath of the Luminous Krayfin is likely a ball of burning Phosphorus, seeing as Phosphor is a key ingredient in Bioluminescent Biology.
19:52 Dude, you gotta warn us next time. I fell through the floor!
Thank you, I needed some help figuring out how the sand wraith is in tidal class. It's my fav dragon, as you can probably tell by my pfp, yet I really don't know a tone about it and am trying to learn
Y'know, I think the Krayfin actually uses these special things cavitation bubbles. They're hotter than lightening and pretty intense. You see it a lot when talking about mantis shrimp, because the force they hit things with causes them (Which is also why they're referred to as tank breakers cause they 100% will shatter glass fish tanks)
Amazing video as always.
Keep up the incredible work.
I'm literally obsessed with all things water and water magic so thanks for this video didn't know how to drain your dragon had water dragons lol
Stoic impression was kinda fire dough. 👌🔥
I've been waiting for this type of video
I remember playing the Cartoon Network game when the thunder drum was revealed and released to the game at the same time It was so cool
Purple Death is the strongest dragon we’ve seen by far. Over the years I’ve felt like the only person that gave this dragon attention. Purple Death is my 2nd favorite dragon.
Well a titan wing bewilderbeast (probably like the one we see on valhallah) could possibly beat it
@@Alastordadeer Yeah possibly just due to it massive size, but we never root to see one alive sadly.
Ngl I enjoy this man’s voice and content plus he funny
I like how you saw Lockstin and Gnoggin as an inspiration for your thumbnail
I took a shot of coffee every time you said ocean, water, or something similar. My arteries are exploding.
That stouik (however the hell it is supposed to spell his name) impression is actually pretty good
In case anyone is wondering, the song that starts around 13:45 is called “The Grimm Troupe”
A whale shark equipped with a fog horn would be the funniest thing ever
I see footage from School of Dragons and now I’m sad again that it shut down
This video is insanely good
Would love to see a video like this for Stoker class.
I dare you to take a shot every time he says the word water
The Sandwraith just looks like a Nightfury covered in sand
The music you used gave me good flash backs
Hearing the Grimm Trouppe music while listening to HTTYD breakdowns is shockingly fitting.
I have no clue how i got on this part of youtube but this is very interesting
Bit late, but the books have some content im not sure if we're counting as cannon, but all dragons are actually amphibious, as well as Sea Dragonus Giganticus Maximus being 1. A fun thing to say and 2. The Purple Death's species
When I took a closer look at the thunderdrum, I realised it was a combination of an axolotl and a frog. And also alligator, with the legs
This video makes me wish we got more love for this franchise
Yes another episode of this series!
I'm so much of a Sand Wraith lover. I believe it should definitely be either Boulder or Strike. It's hard to pick which one, but in my opinion, it has more Boulder class traits than Strike class traits.
He's back at it again lez gooo
"Unlike a certain submarine" got me dead 💀
0:54 how did I not notice A Scaldren in the hidden world?!
walking with dinosaurs referenced, immediately subbed
2:10 yeah becayse i needed more nostalgia pain huh
New Tidal class description: These dragons lives revolve completely or heavily around water
I know you don't like the Nine Realms series, but maybe you could a video discussing the various dragons from it. Including Jormungandr.
I was not aware that there was a community of people who took how to train your dragon to this extreme
Someone count the amount of shots
I counted 84
In the books hiccups riding dragon is called a windwalker and the 2nd fastest dragon in the world and the windwalker in this is almost a match to how the windwalker in the books looks so my guess is they put it in as a nod to the books but it didn't like up with any of the classification so they just put it in tidel class for easy. But the books are good and you should read them they are very different to the films in a good way but there are 12 of them but it is very Very much worth it
My hypotheses: the sliquifer (pronounced like slick and aquifer combined, without the ‘ah’ sound) is a distant relative of the scauldron, having separated from that lineage in a similar way with dolphins from whales. So we could call them the cetacean dragons.
I also think that Whispering Deaths share a common ancestor with Thunderdrums, as they have very similar jaws, body shapes, and wing placement. The legs of Whispering Deaths could have just gone vestigial, while the scream came from the fact that concave jaws make for great echo chambers.
But the Tidal Wave, while kinda similar at least in theory, is not related to scauldrons at all. Oddly enough, it seems like its hind legs, of all things, had evolved into wings. I think this puts it separate from pretty much any other dragon in all HTTYD. On the other hand, all four of the scauldron’s four legs became vestigial. I do wonder where the tidal maker’s back wings could have gone… tis a mystery!
The Seashocker likely can't fly due to the electrocytes required for its defensive ability, considering electric eels' electrocytes make up 80% of their body mass which otherwise would be the normal muscle that could be used for flight, aside from the morphological changes required for them to fly in the first place.
The Luminous Krayfin's "fire" attack almost looks like the bubble that a pistol shrimp can shoot out, which are Really fast, super hot, and have an explosive pop
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The Purple Death looks like a fvckin' Susanoo...
hearing the pixelmon soundtrack is always a welcome sound
The purple death is based on a dragon from book one in the original book series. Definitely read it they're awesome
I have a question if a Dragon eats different type of Dragon is that Cannibalism or not cuz fans call the Red Death a cannibal for eating other Dragons
Nope, because they are different species. If they are the same species then that's canalbilsm.
Like a crocodile eating a chameleon
He said Water, or something related to Water 105 times. Time to Start Drinking then I guess
Ahh yes My favorite part of the tidal class:da watery boiz
10 shots the first minute... my livers gonna be working out today
This video hurts, I thought I had gotten over my SoD heartbreak but apparently not
Now every time I see a thunderdrum I hear it have a stoic voice and accent thanks 😂
Could you do a video talking about game exsuive dragons
Can you do the Boulder class next pls, the Boulder class is my favorite class of dragons 🪨🪨🪨
Scauldron’s are legitimately my favorite dragons in HTTYD
can you make a list about the largest dragons in httyd franchise? like those 50 ft and above
I hope to see the boulder class will be next I love the whispering death
The thunderdrum was always my favorite dragon, and I always wished I had one irl.
I dont know if you have noticed but i sencerely want you to check out 7:49 i dont think that picture is supposed to be on youtube or you might get demonetized
The tideglider is vibing
20:17 THE BOOK VERSION IS A SKY DRAGON!!
My 2nd favorite class of the HTTYD Dragons, this was absotuely amazing
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Shot challenge accepted!
2:30 seconds in and 10 shots in with just the word water😅