S2E4: We generate MASSIVE (20 amps) electrical power for our 420cc engine with a mini alternator

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  • Опубліковано 22 лип 2024
  • Season 2 Episode 4
    Due to inclement weather, the testing of the 420cc street legal go kart was delayed. This gave Jimbo a chance to go slightly off topic and explain the John Deere mini alternator that is being used to generate power for the car. On top of that, Jimbo also discusses other methods to generate electricity with a small engine. Enjoy!
    Check out season 1 and it won't disappoint.
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  • @100PercentJake
    @100PercentJake 2 роки тому +103

    In this episode: Jimbo builds the world's most complicated space heater.

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 2 роки тому +1

      JIMBO OF ROBOT CANTINA builds world's most complicated space
      heater.... LOVE THAT.... what do you think he should work on next??

    • @FrankAlfani
      @FrankAlfani 2 роки тому +1

      When this season started and he said he moved to Kansas I just knew you'd find him lol

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 2 роки тому +1

      @@mommapanda5736 Momma, I think he should do some driving in the pretty prairie of Kansas...

    • @dantevito1193
      @dantevito1193 2 роки тому +1

      Episode? You mean episobe? ( 0:06 )

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 2 роки тому

      @@dantevito1193 I think JIMBO just put that in to see if the audience would catch it!🤓

  • @kclarke32
    @kclarke32 2 роки тому +12

    You could "automate" the alternator cutoff by making it a button mounted on the floor under the gas pedal - If you're accelerating normally, alternator stays on, floor it and it cuts off the alternator.

  • @airgunningyup
    @airgunningyup 2 роки тому +40

    looking forward to seeing the supercharger engaged... For the summer , a simple beach cooler packed with ice and Pc fans might help with the AC situation.

    • @hopsricebarley
      @hopsricebarley 2 роки тому +3

      to be honest...jerry-rigging a small window air conditioner and an inverter should do the trick...no more than 1 and a half horses needed for that at most...

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 2 роки тому +3

      That is a really good idea...Kansas can get hot and humid in the summer.. Thinking about the AC situation..👍cool.

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 2 роки тому +2

      @@ocdman202 OCD Man... The old timers used to roll down the windows...

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 2 роки тому +2

      @@mommapanda5736 did you see all of season one of ROBOT CANTINA??

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 2 роки тому +1

      @@ocdman202 🧙‍♂️🧙‍♂️🧙🧙YES TO JIMBO OF ROBOT CANTINA!

  • @wkpratt1992
    @wkpratt1992 2 роки тому +35

    This mini-episode helps a LOT on other projects. Thank you for this and the whole series it self

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 2 роки тому

      🧙🧙🧙‍♂️🧙‍♂️ YES TO JIMBO OF ROBOT CANTINA!

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 2 роки тому

      @@mommapanda5736 💖💖💖💖

  • @purestress2597
    @purestress2597 2 роки тому +5

    My favorite "Episobe" yet

  • @tigererickson8375
    @tigererickson8375 2 роки тому +5

    Great episobe!!

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 2 роки тому

      Yes, great edpisobe you noticed!

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 2 роки тому

      @@mommapanda5736 👍👍👍

  • @rayers1000
    @rayers1000 Рік тому +2

    "I'll put those screws in later, not now"
    Hmm, think he knows where they are? Lmao.
    Amazing videos, great work!!!

  • @KentuckyFriedFixes
    @KentuckyFriedFixes 2 роки тому +5

    Good stuff! I didn't even know those mini alternators existed. Education is fun.

    • @glumpy10
      @glumpy10 2 роки тому +2

      Found on Kubotas as well.

    • @KentuckyFriedFixes
      @KentuckyFriedFixes 2 роки тому

      @@glumpy10 Thanks man! I'm writing this stuff down just like I'm back in school and loving it!

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 2 роки тому +1

      @@KentuckyFriedFixes 👍👍👍

  • @glumpy10
    @glumpy10 2 роки тому +3

    Excellent Vid! I was using the alternator switch idea 30 years ago in my boy racer days. Mostly nights actually and I knew the alternator was a load when every bit of HP counted. I upgraded the regular Switch to a Vacuum switch so I didn't have to remember it in the heat of battle or to turn it back on later... which may have been more important going on experience.
    The vac held the switch on and when floored, there was no vac so the switch disconnected and everything shut off. Let off the throttle and it all kicked in again. Worked well.
    Way I had it the thing would disable the alternator, the AC and cabin blower and the engine cooling fan. Hey, I was going fast so plenty of air through the radiator till I slowed down and let off the throttle. Alternators as you said are inefficient, very much so on cars, so the power saved electrically was much more at the crankshaft.
    The vac switch was good for when you just wanted to go up a hill or burn someone off spur of the moment. A brake light switch on the throttle could also be used with a DPDT relay in your application. When the throttle is up at idle the alt is active and when you mash the pedal the alt drops out through the DPDT relay. I use that setup on the water injection on my 4WD.
    Those little permanent magnet alternators are also found on my smaller Kubota diesels as well.
    This was a great Vid and I certainly hope you do more. I knew all this but it was still very entertaining as per usual and typically well presented. I'm sure a lot of people did learn from it and will in other similar vids which I look forward to seeing.

  • @DaxtonAnderson
    @DaxtonAnderson 2 роки тому +3

    I love that your DIY car has the same alternator issue as my 2006 Toyota Matrix 😂
    My alternator has 3 stator magnets in it, 1 of them died so it doesn't charge at idle anymore. Been going over a year like this and have a spare alternator in the hatch waiting for the day it dies altogether 😂 I'm just careful not to idle under 900rpm for more than a few minutes. Starting up is always 1200-2000rpm so I can idle it while it warms up no problem!

  • @nathanw6579
    @nathanw6579 2 роки тому +6

    It'd be very interesting to see an alternator used on a go kart to power a motor connected to the wheels, similar to how diesel-electric transmissions work in a locomotive!

  • @pleasedontwatchthese9593
    @pleasedontwatchthese9593 2 роки тому +2

    The alternator switch reminded me of the small motorcycle z125. It cuts the alternator for a little bit if your going WOT for a little extra power

  • @BeardedFrog
    @BeardedFrog 2 роки тому +5

    Looks like you brought some Michigan with you after moving (weather). It's been the same here in Michigan. Michigan never gets the memo on spring. It's just that turbulent chaotic battle between winter and spring until summer just steps in and sends them both off.
    Anyways, always impressed by your vast and wide knowledge of electronics. This was a great video, and extremely well explained. I don't have nearly your expertise in electronics, and yet it was very easy to follow along/understand it. I liked that you showed the demo on the dyno of what would happen with a car alternator instead.
    Seems like you definitely made the right call on alternator choice.
    Feels somewhat ironic that it needs such a careful choice of alternator, given that while this one was a cement mixer engine, they're also in the same vain as those used as generators for houses.

  • @michaelcrumlett187
    @michaelcrumlett187 2 роки тому +12

    Thanks for another enjoyable video! I don’t think it was off-topic at all - power generation and the mitigation of power loss through belt driven accessories are both big factors in maximizing performance. That big Delco alternator will suck 5-6 horsepower all by itself (and maybe more, depending on frictional losses through the drive), so the John Deere unit seems like a wise move. Well done!

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 2 роки тому +1

      🧙‍♂️🧙‍♂️🧙‍♂️🧙🧙YES TO JIMBO OF ROBOT CANTINA!

  • @jasongaunt
    @jasongaunt 2 роки тому +3

    Jimbo, I know you say you don't want to use an automotive alternator, that's cool. If the biggest sticking point is literally wanting the ability to turn it off during power runs I believe that the "idiot light" is actually used to excite the alternator into working. Older alternators like that would often not charge the battery if the alternator warning light had blown (particularly older Mitsubishi's).
    If you fit a DPST (or DPDT) switch and use that to break the connection to both pins 1 and 2 (idiot light and ignition switch) that should hopefully let you turn the alternator off. I imagine this would be a fairly simple test and may open up avenues for you later :)

  • @brucepeebles4939
    @brucepeebles4939 2 роки тому +13

    I may be mistaken, but the permanent magnets mean this unit is a DYNAMO. (not an alternator) Dynamo's are well known for reliability because there are no 'brushes' ....as long as the regulator is robust.

    • @erik_dk842
      @erik_dk842 10 місяців тому

      Wrong. Dynamos make DC power without any rectifier. This is a permanet magnet Alternator, producing single phase AC, like smaller/older motorcycles.

    • @brucepeebles4939
      @brucepeebles4939 9 місяців тому

      @@erik_dk842 Actually, smaller-older motorcycles also used a brushless dynamo. My old 1960s Yamaha went one step further by using the dynamo as a STARTER too.

    • @erik_dk842
      @erik_dk842 9 місяців тому

      @@brucepeebles4939 If there are no brushes, they can only produce AC. The distinction wasn't clear back then. I know dynastarters, both they are actually alterstarters. In USA, they got it backassawkward, so they call dynamo's, which rectify the generated AC internally to DC by a segmented commutator, generators.

  • @isaacmirandajs
    @isaacmirandajs 2 роки тому +4

    Great explanation for the mini alternator. The sneek peeks are great!

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 2 роки тому

      I agree😊😊 Hope a video comes out this weekend... Love the sneek peeks. 👍

  • @frilandfilm1
    @frilandfilm1 2 роки тому +6

    You can get 18A charging coils for the GX390 engine. NR racing sells them part# 31630-ZE2-W01

    • @thegdfp6447
      @thegdfp6447 2 роки тому

      It also requires the matching flywheel magnet setup.

  • @WolfTheDog
    @WolfTheDog 2 роки тому +5

    I truly, honestly and deeply want to daily a car like this project. I think it would be hilariously fun

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 2 роки тому +1

      🧙🧙‍♂️🧙‍♂️YES TO JIMBO OF ROBOT CANTINA!

  • @barry8215
    @barry8215 2 роки тому +2

    Great educational and entertaining videos. Anyone who has engineered any project would appreciate your work. I’m not sure if if it’s doable but you could try to incorporate a electric clutch like on a A/C compressor to turn off the generator to get maximum power. Not sure if it would be worth the hp gain. I know permanent magnet generators take some energy to turn even when not drawing power off them but I don’t know how much.

  • @A6Legit
    @A6Legit 2 роки тому +3

    Any video you make is full of information that i cant begin to understand, but I like feeling like Im learning something.

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 2 роки тому +1

      🧙‍♂️🧙‍♂️🧙🧙 YES TO JIMBO OF ROBOT CANTINA!

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 2 роки тому +1

      @@mommapanda5736 Are we going to see any more gnomes in this series??🤡🤡

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 2 роки тому +1

      @@ocdman202 Well, I hope so...

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 Рік тому

      THANK YOU JIMBO , for another great video! This video is one of your best!

  • @shawnsatterlee6035
    @shawnsatterlee6035 2 роки тому +6

    I once built a Amish battery charger from a old 8hp Briggs with a 140A GM alternator and it would make that Briggs work under a full load keeping 2 4D Diesel batteries charged while running a 2000W backup inverter.

  • @pepethefrog7193
    @pepethefrog7193 2 роки тому +3

    20A diode costs $0.05 and a 2A ajustable DC-DC converter set to 13.8V costs $1. That will charge your bat from the internal coils but not overcharge it.

  • @brett8090
    @brett8090 2 роки тому +2

    Done slipped up at 6:00 and gave the jungle site a name drop.

  • @WafflePlaneRC
    @WafflePlaneRC 2 роки тому +3

    On my moped, I set up a battery to run the lights which charges from a full bridge rectifier on the existing lighting coil. I disconnected the frame ground of the coil, so I could put each side of the coil to the two AC pins of the rectifier respectively. And since the coil isn't grounded, hooking up the negative pin to the DC circuit didn't cause any shorts. There's still a *bit* of a paradox, as the lights themselves still have frame ground which is shared with the AC points ignition system, but it doesn't drain the battery overnight and hasn't blown anything up yet, so I'm calling it good.
    I *do* occasionally have to top up the battery, as the single coil isn't really enough to keep it charged, though.

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 2 роки тому

      🚗🚗🚗🚗🚙🚙🚙🚙🚴🚴🚴

  • @DoRC
    @DoRC 2 роки тому +9

    That alternator cheater switch reminds me of something I used to have on my old underpowered street racing type Hondas. I would have the AC compressor clutch and alternator field run through relays and to a button that I installed on my gear shifter. That way I could push the button when I needed max lame acceleration. Good times

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 2 роки тому

      🤓

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 2 роки тому

      @@ocdman202 OCD MAN, do you have a comment or are you
      just a smart looking guy??

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 2 роки тому

      @@mommapanda5736 Momma, I have a comment. 🤓

  • @thomasexeter97
    @thomasexeter97 2 роки тому +4

    This video was really helpful for me. I’m running a Diesel engine in a lawn mower and it has no electrical components at all so it doesn’t charge a battery on its own.

  • @darwinskeeper421
    @darwinskeeper421 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks for the bonus video, I now have an understanding of alternators used on small engines. This is good information for that Predator V-Twin powered track-T that I will NEVER build.

  • @BlackCatRedScarf
    @BlackCatRedScarf 2 роки тому +4

    I guess we got a Tech Cantina this time.
    Good stuff. ;D 👍

  • @mitchellroberts7954
    @mitchellroberts7954 2 роки тому +5

    If you're used to GM stuff surely you're as much of a fan of the AD244 alternators as I am... cheap at the junkyard and capable of nearly 200DCa when cold!

  • @maciejsn2126
    @maciejsn2126 2 роки тому +4

    Im glad You’re back! ☺️

  • @anthonyrstrawbridge
    @anthonyrstrawbridge 2 роки тому +2

    This is great. I have to stop mid stream. Will revise comment because I have a mouthful of insightful conjecture.

  • @fersunk
    @fersunk 2 роки тому +4

    The car alternator still the best option for your application.
    The JD alternator with permanent magnets have drag 24/7 no matter what, but the car alternator just disconnect the regulator output to the brushes for the rotor, almost 0 drag, they spin effortless without an energized rotor

  • @jackthatmonkey8994
    @jackthatmonkey8994 Рік тому +2

    This series has taught me a lot about electricity, how it works, and gave me ideas for my hillbilly A/C concept in my car. Thanks a lot

  • @christopherbeddoe406
    @christopherbeddoe406 2 роки тому +3

    Bonus videos for the win!

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 2 роки тому

      🧙‍♂️🧙🧙🧙‍♂️ yes TO JIMBO OF ROBOT CANTINA!

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 Рік тому

      THANK YOU JIMBO , for another great video! This video is one of your best!

  • @terencehawkes3933
    @terencehawkes3933 Рік тому +1

    I enjoy your narration. Informative yet humorous.

  • @speedyme200
    @speedyme200 2 роки тому +3

    14:55 Predator 670 incoming 💣

  • @V8Power5300
    @V8Power5300 2 роки тому +5

    This really isn't an alternator. It's actually a generator. I've used a 55A alternator on a 12hp briggs and stratton. I've had no problem at idle, especially since the load is pretty small once the battery is at 14V. With the speeduino idle control I don't think you would have stalling issues at idle.

    • @poprawa
      @poprawa 2 роки тому

      He have not installed idle valve of ant sort and this configuration is just fine with idle intervals not being long

  • @ryanreich7635
    @ryanreich7635 2 роки тому +4

    I can only hear Mehdi from ElectroBoom say "FULL BRIDGE RECTIFIER" every time you say it.

  • @jreynoldssroberts8581
    @jreynoldssroberts8581 2 роки тому +3

    Super charger ! Can't wait to see it in action! Great job and thank you!

  • @EVCarGuy
    @EVCarGuy 2 роки тому +2

    MAN! I AM REALLY ENJOYING YOUR CONTENT! Right up my alley! Thank ya!

  • @BigBlueMotors
    @BigBlueMotors 2 роки тому +3

    Like the video. Yes, that GM alternator will rob almost 3hp at wide open throttle. Permanent magnet is the most efficient since you eliminate the 0.4-0.5 amp current needed for excitation. A wind power generator, rewound to generate power at a lower rpm could be an option. Most have permanent magnets, but are too pricey right now to consider as an option. 👍

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 2 роки тому +1

      🧙🧙‍♂️🧙🧙‍♂️yes to JIMBO OF ROBOT CANTINA

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 2 роки тому

      @@mommapanda5736 Are we going to see any more gnomes in this series??🌟🌟🌟

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 2 роки тому +1

      @@ocdman202 Well, I hope so..

  • @LunaticCharade
    @LunaticCharade 2 роки тому +3

    Of course you can connect ground to the rectifier, with the charging coils. But not if the other side of the coils are also connected to ground!
    And that is probably standard so would require a modification.

  • @chrisfloerkey3721
    @chrisfloerkey3721 2 роки тому +1

    This is a very helpful video for other builders.

  • @harolddalesr8365
    @harolddalesr8365 2 роки тому +3

    The 2004 John Deere 790 small 3cylinder diesel came with one. So small thought about putting it on my Ironhead Sportster bike.

  • @nirodper
    @nirodper 2 роки тому +5

    Your "GY6" Honda style regulator didn´t work because of the grounded coils. There are 2 styles of Honda regulators, full and half wave.
    Half wave regulators are used on older bikes or bikes without electric start, there are 2 coils (or a coil with 2 taps) that are grounded. One gets rectified through a single diode and charges the battery with the positive pulses, and the other one gets regulated to ~14v AC to power the headlight by shorting the half waves to ground with a triac when the voltage gets too high.
    Full wave regulators are used with bikes with electric start (as they need more power). There is a single coil (or many coils but only 2 wires come out) and it's not grounded. It gets rectified and regulated to charge the battery and everything runs off 12v DC.
    Both regulators can be 4 wires (2ac, ground and +) but the ones with 5 wires are allways full wave (extra +ign to eliminate quiescent current when the bike isn't running)
    To use the GY6 regulator you need to unground the coil and run another wire. Also I don't know if you can just parallel/series the coils like that as you can have problems with saturation (if you series them) or them being out of phase and cancelling their voltage. If you do this you should easily double the power.

    • @dsxfab3747
      @dsxfab3747 2 роки тому

      Thank you for this info. I’m currently trying to run a 4 wire “gy6” for my Honda gx390 with oem charging coil (only one coil). Before I just ran it into an old Honda 2 pin rectifier, wire off the coil going in, and wire going out (of the rectifier) to the battery. This worked fine but was unregulated so it was bringing my battery as high as 16 volts with extended run time. I got rid of that rectifier and tried to wire in this 4 wire rectifier/regulator but since my coil only has one wire I figured this wouldn’t work. I tried anyway by only utilizing 3 of the four wires on the gy6 regulator and.. it SEEMS to be working? But maybe my system just pulls such small load that my battery hasn’t lost any charge yet. I run an electric start, and led headlight and tail light, that’s it. What are your thoughts on this? You’re saying to work properly my coil needs to be ungrounded? If so, I don’t think that will be possible for my application.

    • @nirodper
      @nirodper 2 роки тому +1

      ​@@dsxfab3747 To run with a grounded coil you need a half wave regulator. I think you need to connect the coil wire to both AC inputs (top right annd bottom left), top left to battery + and bottom right to ground.
      If you need more power you can use a full wave regulator, you need to unground the coil either by cutting the grounding wire in the coil and soldering a wire, or by using plastic washers on each side and a plastic tube for the screw.
      Full wave regulators often have fins on the sides and top, while half wave ones have fins only on top and are a bit smaller. You can search for mopedarmy wiki for more info

    • @dsxfab3747
      @dsxfab3747 2 роки тому

      @@nirodper thank you for the reply! For now, because its the simplest potential fix, I’ll try connecting both wires to my ac input and see if that changes anything. 👍

    • @nirodper
      @nirodper 2 роки тому +1

      @@dsxfab3747 you can search in images for full wave moped regulator and half wave moped regulator and see what I was telling about the half ones having less fins, so you can determine what type yours is. You can also test for continuity with a multimeter. Glad to help

    • @dsxfab3747
      @dsxfab3747 2 роки тому

      @@nirodper yeah, I really need to buy another multimeter. I actually broke mine right as I was going to test this set up. I dropped a wrench right on the screen so I’m sure it’s still working, I just have no idea what it’s trying to tell me 😂

  • @jasonz7788
    @jasonz7788 2 роки тому +4

    Great work Sir thank you

  • @bborkzilla
    @bborkzilla 2 роки тому +3

    Kudos for the classic Tek scope!

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 2 роки тому

      👍👍👍

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 2 роки тому

      @@ocdman202 OCD man... Do you like these bonus videos??

  • @octane613
    @octane613 2 роки тому +5

    This was fun! I like this kind of content, and the techy stuff is why I subbed to you. It's also a bonus that the techy stuff leads to answers to questions no one asked, the entire premise behind the car. It's a chaotic masterpiece.

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 2 роки тому

      I agree... Chaotic masterpiece is a good description. 🖼🖼 The answers to questions no one asked is how I learn things..🤓

    • @robotcantina8957
      @robotcantina8957  2 роки тому +1

      Awesome, thank you!

  • @ggariepy
    @ggariepy 2 роки тому +16

    I wonder if the charging needs could be achieved by regenerative braking when your foot is off the throttle by running a GM alternator off the transmission output of the car. Using the car's mass to store kinetic energy that you only harvest when not accelerating.

    • @dennisford2000
      @dennisford2000 2 роки тому +1

      Could also have a voltage dependent charge during cruise

    • @Lawrence330
      @Lawrence330 Рік тому

      The John Deere alternator would be better for this scheme. As mentioned toward the end of the video, the GM alternator can't be turned off once excited. The JD can, however. If the JD alternator was coupled to the driveshaft and the excitation switch piggybacked to the stoplight switch on the brake pedal, you might have a chance of recovering some of that energy as electricity.

  • @PatrickKQ4HBD
    @PatrickKQ4HBD 2 роки тому +2

    FANTASTIC bonus video! Thank you!

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 2 роки тому

      Agree this is a great bonus video... what would you like to see in future videos??🚙🤓

  • @AmaroqStarwind
    @AmaroqStarwind Рік тому +2

    Maybe you could stick alternators in the wheels and wire them to activate when you apply the brakes; regenerative braking!
    A solar panel could help too.

  • @TheOriginalGOC
    @TheOriginalGOC 2 місяці тому

    I really appreciate you sharing all this wonderful wisdom.

  • @gabrieldmf95
    @gabrieldmf95 2 роки тому +12

    With a full bridge rectifier, you are taking advantage of the full AC wave from the generator. With two diodes, you are only rectifying half of the sine wave and thus, using only 50% of the power that is being generated.

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 2 роки тому

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 2 роки тому

      @@ocdman202 OCD MAN, do you have a comment?? what is that
      little green thing??

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 2 роки тому

      @@mommapanda5736 yes Momma Panda, I do have a comment.. 🚙🚙🚙

    • @arifgor6467
      @arifgor6467 6 місяців тому

      İki diyot ile tam dalga DC üretilir. Tek diyot ile yarım dalga DC üretilir.

  • @Real.Alpheus
    @Real.Alpheus 2 роки тому +2

    Good info. I will use this knowledge to add some coulombs to my golf cart project. Thank you.

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 2 роки тому

      🛺🛺🛺🛺GOLF CARTS.. Wow that gives me an idea ... 😊😊

  • @johnwells5314
    @johnwells5314 2 роки тому +2

    Excellent topic today. I had been wondering about your charging system.👍🏻👍🏻 I really enjoyed this video.

  • @ChrisfromKeyfarm
    @ChrisfromKeyfarm 2 роки тому +3

    That is really helpful I was actually looking for miniature alternators earlier in the week for my latest project.

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 2 роки тому

      🤓

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 2 роки тому

      @@ocdman202 ocd Man === do you have a comment or are you
      just a smart looking guy??

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 2 роки тому

      @@mommapanda5736 I am smart because I watch ROBOT CANTINA....🤓🤓🤓🤓

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 2 роки тому

      @@ocdman202 JIMBO OF ROBOT CANTINA IS THE GENIUS..

  • @thewilliamss2392
    @thewilliamss2392 2 роки тому +3

    Loving these informal vids mr thanks for your time and patience

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 2 роки тому

      Me too! JIMBO OF ROBOT CANTINA does offer his time
      and patience and expertise.

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 2 роки тому

      @@mommapanda5736 Momma, did you watch JIMBO OF ROBOT CANTINA season one??🔧🔧🔧🤓

  • @devivoman
    @devivoman 2 роки тому +3

    Awesome as always! Keep up the great work Jimbo and the crew!

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 2 роки тому +1

      I agree ...Awesome as always... What would you like to see
      in future videos?? Keep up the great work Jimbo..

    • @devivoman
      @devivoman 2 роки тому +1

      @@mommapanda5736 I've been here since episode one of the 212 and I'm still just waiting to see what that 670 is going to do! I'm enjoying the trip but I'm excited to see if a built 670 will meet or exceed original performance! Then there is the duromax 999.....

  • @yodasbff3395
    @yodasbff3395 2 роки тому +2

    Good stuff, very interesting information 👍.

  • @oldskool4580
    @oldskool4580 2 роки тому +3

    My mind is officially blown !! I just literally went through every bit of this 2 weeks ago I kid you not, I ended up with the exact same alternator, I bought mine from Amazon cuz they had an open box one for 20 bucks and I figured for R&D lol it would be worth it if don't last. I'm using an old friction drive 2 stage snow blower repourposed with the auger system and barrel removed. Honest to God I was in my shop thinking "I wonder how much hp an old gm 3 wire 100amp alternator uses ?" It was way more amperage than my little project needs but it was in my inventory of cool stuff to keep, anyway it bogged my brand new 390cc engine down way more than I figured under a heavy load so I started "researching" and ended up with the 20amp permanent magnet and it is right now mounted on the friction drive, sitting on my bench ready for me to figure out what I need for rect/reg this weekend. How amazing of a coincidence is it that one of my favorite channels puts this video out right now? This is scarey, I don't have luck like this. That did it, I'm hooking up the ground wire lol.

    • @robotcantina8957
      @robotcantina8957  2 роки тому +1

      LOL, Sounds like your well on your way to success. Best of luck with the project!

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 Рік тому

      @@robotcantina8957 THANK YOU JIMBO , for another great video! This video is one of your best!

  • @Jarrett17333
    @Jarrett17333 Рік тому +2

    Thank you for explaining why the coil does not generate enough energy on it's own to run everything. I was curious about that since the beginning of the build. It also explains why the headlights in my lawn mower stink!! Thanks for all the great content Jimbo. I'm going through the back catalog now 🙂

  • @NCMATT
    @NCMATT 2 роки тому +3

    Super charger looking good.

  • @buildrollfixcamp
    @buildrollfixcamp 2 роки тому +2

    Awesome the adjustable bolt with an eyelet is just the idea I need to complete this same set up I'm making using a Ford alternator with an A belt and a 3 predator motor. I am putting a 2 horse required 2 cylinder compressor on the other side. 12Volts and air at the pull of a cord.

  • @kkitzhaber
    @kkitzhaber 2 роки тому +1

    That was fun... Took me back to the good ol' days, seeing your oscilloscope from the... 90s? I remember our teacher brought out one from the 70s or 80s to show us HIS 'good ol' days.' Probably had vacuum tubes.

    • @robotcantina8957
      @robotcantina8957  2 роки тому +1

      I think the scope dates from the mid 80's insanely expensive back in the day, but only a few bucks on craigslist.

  • @jondavidmcnabb
    @jondavidmcnabb 2 роки тому +3

    Excellent video and good teaching instructions. Thank you for the knowledge.

    • @robotcantina8957
      @robotcantina8957  2 роки тому

      Glad it was helpful!

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 Рік тому

      @@robotcantina8957 THANK YOU JIMBO , for another great video! This video is one of your best!

  • @Willie_MN
    @Willie_MN 10 місяців тому

    GREAT Video for many projects! THANK YOU!

  • @therealaustinbrown2712
    @therealaustinbrown2712 2 роки тому +2

    Yes! I love this kinda video. Gives me ideas and shows how much work goes into the stuff for this channel. Thanks Jimbo!

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 2 роки тому

      🤓

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 2 роки тому

      @@ocdman202 OCD MAN, do you have a comment or are you
      just a smart looking guy??

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 2 роки тому

      @@mommapanda5736 I have a comment..🤓

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 2 роки тому

      @@ocdman202 Are you making fun of my emoji??

  • @akhtarkh
    @akhtarkh 2 роки тому +3

    Thanks for the video. Useful information about sourcing and wiring the miniature alternator.

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 2 роки тому

      Yes... this is useful information... What would you like to see in future videos?

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 2 роки тому

      @@mommapanda5736 🤓

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 2 роки тому

      @@ocdman202 OCD MAN, do you have a comment or are
      you just a smart looking guy??

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 2 роки тому

      @@mommapanda5736 I am still thinking about wiring the miniature alternator and
      the space time vortex... I am a smart looking guy also... 🤓

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 2 роки тому

      @@ocdman202 Jimbo of ROBOT CANTINA is a genius...

  • @ptonpc
    @ptonpc 2 роки тому +2

    Definitely not off topic. Thanks :)

  • @johnhunter3120
    @johnhunter3120 Рік тому +2

    I might be mistaken, but I'm not sure turning off this style of generator will save HP because it uses permanent magnets. An alternator only take up power when it's coils are energized to make a magnet field,but this type always has a field and generates power all the time.

  • @burtmcgurt3584
    @burtmcgurt3584 2 роки тому +2

    Awesome video! This gave me an idea of how to wire up my dt-400 project of 12 volt output :)

  • @keisuketakahashi3597
    @keisuketakahashi3597 2 роки тому +4

    What if you can use alternator as a motor to further increase the power . It may need extra batteries and proper charging system but it can definitely work. Nice video .The rectifier explanation helped me a lot.

  • @FrankAlfani
    @FrankAlfani 2 роки тому +5

    Hey Jimbo! Since you've moved to Kansas land have you gotten a chance to meet WatchJRGo, 100percentjake, CarWizard, and Hoovie? Those guys would definitely get a kick out of your projects.

    • @FrankAlfani
      @FrankAlfani 2 роки тому +2

      @@LazloNQ I almost forgot about UrinationBob lol

    • @robotcantina8957
      @robotcantina8957  2 роки тому +2

      So far I have met 100PercentJake. That was pretty cool !. I reckon in time, I will meet the rest.

    • @FrankAlfani
      @FrankAlfani 2 роки тому +2

      @@robotcantina8957 So cool! He loves these cars. Had a feeling you'd get his attention for sure lol.

  • @derekgeis1024
    @derekgeis1024 2 роки тому +3

    Thanks! you just help me figure out a good solution to fix my charging problem on my motorcycle

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 2 роки тому

      🚴‍♀🚴‍♀

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 2 роки тому

      @@ocdman202 THUMBS UP TO ROBOT CANTINA!

  • @sadaaromin13
    @sadaaromin13 2 роки тому +5

    You could set a trigger with speedino to turn it off under large loads.

  • @dodik240
    @dodik240 2 роки тому +3

    Mr. Cantina,
    You made my day by recognizing my comment in to a video clip. Got to keep those headlights on so you can be road legal you know... Lol.
    I'm going to send you a little gift for this recognition.
    Love this bonus video. Keep up the great work.

    • @robotcantina8957
      @robotcantina8957  2 роки тому +1

      LOL, I'll put those bolts in soon....

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 Рік тому

      @@robotcantina8957 THANK YOU JIMBO , for another great video! This video is one of your best!

  • @cullenmiller8170
    @cullenmiller8170 2 роки тому +2

    I see no gnomes were injured in the bonus video.😂

  • @designandbuild3953
    @designandbuild3953 2 роки тому +3

    This was a very useful tech tip for me personally, would welcome more as you make them.

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 2 роки тому

      Yes to this comment... I would also welcome more ... what other
      tech tips are you looking forward to?

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 2 роки тому

      @@mommapanda5736 Momma I would like some tips on how to save money on gas⛽⛽⛽

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 2 роки тому

      @@ocdman202 OCD MAN.... I would start walking or riding a bike...

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 2 роки тому

      @@mommapanda5736 Momma, Don't even mention the price of gas... 🤣🤣

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 2 роки тому

      @@ocdman202 PRICE OF GAS!!!

  • @olmstead25
    @olmstead25 2 роки тому +3

    Cant wait for that 670. Turbo EFI. But I em equally excited for the 420 supercharger.

  • @replikvltyoutube3727
    @replikvltyoutube3727 2 роки тому +3

    Great to see progress on the project👍

  • @motorosso3349
    @motorosso3349 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks for the technical sidetrack. Keep it up, I might actually learn something.😄

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 2 роки тому

      🤓

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 2 роки тому

      @@ocdman202 OCD MAN... Do you have a comment or are you
      just a smart looking guy??

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 2 роки тому

      @@mommapanda5736 I have a comment..🤓

  • @JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT
    @JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT 2 роки тому +3

    Interesting parallel video! My first thought was: the alternator will rob a few hp out of a low power engine. Switching it on and off solves that problem, but you're still adding some drag from the magnets and the belt (not much, but if you have the time, you could perhaps measure it by removing the belt). As for the internal coils, you could also detach and rewire the grounded end, to have full wave rectification, but it probably is enough for trickle charge and would be unnecessary extra work - unnecessary extra work is my specialty :-)

  • @mommapanda5736
    @mommapanda5736 Рік тому +1

    “Oldtimers, weekends, and airplane landings are alike. If you can walk away from them, they’re successful.”

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 Рік тому +1

      THANK YOU JIMBO , for another great video! This video is one of your best!

  • @dennisford2000
    @dennisford2000 2 роки тому +2

    You should research old Delco Generator/Starter on small engines, basic and still available. Generator self exicites does not draw the engine down as the v cutoff opens , and you can adjust voltage and current. No rectifier and you delete ,or redundant system the starter

  • @TheMinydude
    @TheMinydude 2 роки тому +3

    Just want to say your diagram for the wiring on the GM style alternator was helpful! I've been screwing around trying to figure out how to wire up the alternator for my pickup truck because all the wiring was cut and that answered my question!

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 2 роки тому +1

      🤓

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 2 роки тому +1

      @@ocdman202 OCD MAN.. do you have a comment or are you just
      a smart looking man??

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 2 роки тому +1

      @@mommapanda5736 I am a smart looking man....🤓🤓

  • @Boemel
    @Boemel 2 роки тому +2

    Came for the video but stay for the Xylophone.

  • @zeusek-2137
    @zeusek-2137 2 роки тому +3

    Love it, keep the format like this, bonus videos are fine, kisses :*

    • @robotcantina8957
      @robotcantina8957  2 роки тому

      Thank you! Will do!

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 2 роки тому

      ☺☺☺

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 Рік тому

      @@ocdman202 THANK YOU JIMBO , for another great video! This video is one of your best!

  • @fenstermakerwj
    @fenstermakerwj 2 роки тому +4

    If you ever did use a automotive alternator I'd probably recommend one from a older probably carbureted 4 cylinder car. Usually smaller and around 45-50 amps. Just from what I find. But I also think some of the newer cars (I think from Toyota, maybe they all do now) have alternators that you could turn off even at idle. If you ever wanted to use a car alternator that is.

    • @otm646
      @otm646 2 роки тому

      There are lots of one wire industrial / tractor alternator options in that 50 amp range. I have used a WIL 90013125 in the past with good results. At these slower speeds you're never going to get the rated power (thus load) out of it, which is a feature in this instance.

  • @ProDigit80
    @ProDigit80 Рік тому +2

    The diesel engine isn't going to stall at idle. You can also replace the headlights with less, for more electrical headroom

  • @terrynations2243
    @terrynations2243 2 роки тому +3

    That secret switch on the control wire of the regulator is something I been using on my yard kart with a Honda GX390 that has a 5255 (60amp) ford alternator and 8224 lawn mower battery on it. At an idle It’s enough to start a big block Chevy with a dead battery. I turn off the switch for high speed runs. It does about 50mph. That’s pretty quick for an old Murray explorer yard kart.

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 2 роки тому

      🧙‍♂️🧙‍♂️🧙🧙🧙 YES TO JIMBO OF ROBOT CANTINA!

  • @TheViny633
    @TheViny633 2 роки тому +3

    I want to road-trip to this fun looking place

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 2 роки тому +1

      🤓

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 2 роки тому

      @@ocdman202 OCD man.. Do you have a comment or
      are you just a smart looking guy?

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 2 роки тому

      @@mommapanda5736 I am just a smart looking guy🤓

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 2 роки тому

      @@ocdman202 Well, I guess that is a good comment..

  • @twocvbloke
    @twocvbloke 2 роки тому +7

    Pretty neat little charging system, I thought of using a 2CV Ducellier alternator myself (about 40 Amps output), 'til I broke the windings on the one I bought cos it needed new bearings, and the pulley nut is tighter than a yorkshireman's grip on his wallet, and, well, I did a dumb... :P

  • @billdont2458
    @billdont2458 2 роки тому +3

    Not off topic at all. 💪💪💪

  • @brandonbuilds5050
    @brandonbuilds5050 2 роки тому +4

    Great Video

  • @isaacgriffin9184
    @isaacgriffin9184 Рік тому +2

    Awesome explanation. Thank you. You fully answered my questions.

  • @andrewwihlon7419
    @andrewwihlon7419 2 роки тому +3

    I see a Robot Catania video, I watch it, and like it.

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 2 роки тому

      Me too... what do you like about this one???

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 2 роки тому

      @@mommapanda5736 I like the awe - inspiring explanations and the red and blue wires. 😊⏰⏰⌚⌚

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 2 роки тому

      @@ocdman202 OCD MAN... I don't know if the wires are color coordinated
      but they seem to serve a purpose...

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 2 роки тому

      @@mommapanda5736 JUST DONT CUT THE RED WIRE💥💥

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 2 роки тому

      @@ocdman202 🧙‍♂️🧙‍♂️🧙🧙🧙

  • @bgdwiepp
    @bgdwiepp 2 роки тому +4

    Hey Jimbo,
    The ribbed belt to the supercharger would be cool to run past a large hyundai sonata belted hybrid starter generator, you could use that as both a starter to start, a hybrid motor to get crazy 0-60 times and also to charge the battery!
    That system gets a lot bigger and complicated but it would be real neat!
    The other thing is, its a lot more efficient than a normal alternator because its designed to also motor very efficiently.

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 2 роки тому

      🧙‍♂️🧙‍♂️🧙🧙 YES TO JIMBO OF ROBOT CANTINA!

  • @bryanbsa8094
    @bryanbsa8094 2 роки тому +3

    If it has permanent Magnets, isn't it called a Generator? (Old School, 68) Ok, maybe not, but I will say even though you switch off the alternator you still have parasitic loss of power every time the stator goes past the magnet as you felt at 1:50. And I say old chap. Cogs? Lol. keep the videos coming... 😎😍😁

  • @realsonnysullivan
    @realsonnysullivan 2 роки тому +1

    keep these vids coming!