Never wore a watch my entire adult life until this month. I am 42. I went with the Seamaster 300 gray dial, blue bezel, blue rubber strap. My test for picking was which watch will I want to keep and pay for service for during the rest of my life. Happy with the decision. Cheers!
See your smarter than me I was a shmuck starting with the Tags, graduating to the Breitlings and eventually ending at Omega. I wish like hell I would have started with Omega. You live and you learn
I'm wearing a stainless steel 31 jewel automatic dive watch. It keeps excellent time. It gets attention. It gets compliments. Its an 090 Vostok Amphibia. It costs $73. I can't imagine a watch that costs four times more than my car, that does virtually everything this one does yet is less waterproof.
great watch. Should have made it into this list :-D , the 090 is by far the nicer Amphibia imho. I would wear my Amphibias more often if they just had developed a quicker setup for the calendar (it is a problem if you like to change watch every few days). But they are keepers, I love and use them as well as my Omegas and Seikos.
@@sandrodunatov485 Good point about the date. I have four Amphibias with the no-date 2415 movement, and three Komandirskies with the dreaded date feature. They're all great fun. Cheers 🍻. !
1🎯🎯% My buddy at work wearing his Vostok "scuba dude" with the sweeping diver on the sec hand is what got me back into watches! I had no idea that autos were attainable, let alone relatively cheap... 🤯 Currently rotating an Orient Mako 2, Seiko 5 sport, and a Citizen fieldwatch along with my beloved G-shock DW5600. All for less than half of what those plastic MoonSwatch Speedy (quartz!) emulations are reselling for 👍 Oh hell yeah
Submariner seams that nothing is in the wrong place. Just a perfect combination of forms and materials and a design that will last forever. It's the Porsche 911 of watches.
Nothing liek a porche 911, analogies from watches to cars are rubbish, a 911 can out perform most cars at its price range, a sub cant do any better in performance than a 100 dollar ali express watch, its just a brand
@@becksy539 Well please show me where the $100 chronometer rated watches with true 300m water resistance that can last a few lifetimes all the while appreciating in value are. I'd like to buy a couple of hundred of them.
Unusually, I felt incredibly ignored at my Omega AD. Did they have watches in stock? Yes. But they acted like I wasn’t a serious customer and ignored my pricing questions as if I wasn’t a buyer. I went into my Rolex AD (no purchase history) and was treated like royalty. No watches in stock, but I was sat down, offered a drink, and enjoyed an exciting conversation with the rep. I was assured that I will receive a sub, it will just take a few months. Insane how backwards this seems from what most people declare online. Hope I actually get it 😂
If they told you that, you can believe them. You took the time to sit down and have a nice conversation with a rep... you know, like normal humans do. I'm sure they have plenty of people that come in and ask to be on the waitlist. They're not in a rush to fool you into thinking you're gonna get one. What you may not know is that it's also a part of their process... they're vetting you as you speak. And this is why building a relationship (a human one) is so important. Believe it or not, but some of these ADs really want these watches to go to good homes. And they are doing a lot to ensure that happens. With everything that's going on right now on the gray market, you can't blame them for their apprehension. There is so much negativity out there about Rolex, ADs, and the gray market but as with all things, at the end of the day it's a matter of supply and demand. Can't hate on Rolex just because so many people want their watches. That's ludicrous. I know plenty of people who had little to no purchase history that were awarded the opportunity (after 2-6 months waiting) to buy the Rolex they wanted simply because they built a relationship with an AD that wasn't necessarily monetary. They were just being enthusiasts looking for the watch they wanted. Why isn't that a real thing anymore? Why do we walk into ADs with a sh*t attitude like these guys are the enemy? If you can prove to these guys you're not another snarky, bitter a-hole that whine on the internet about how they can't get a watch then maybe... Just maybe you've got a good chance. Good luck brotha and hope you get it!!
@@janelavie4115 so that’s what I mean. It’s not really a waiting list in the traditional sense. They pick and choose who can have one. You are not in a numbered line done fairly.
I had a great experience at the JLC boutique in Sydney. I was just window shopping and they knew it, but still brought out the fine whiskey and we had a long conversation about watches with the salesman and the store manager well past closing time. One of the best watch retail experience I’ve ever had.
Since you recommended the Glasshute. For a more affordable option with similar design I also recommend the Brietling Superocean 42mm. I actually like the Cartier Diver also. No one else does 😆.
Grand Seiko’s are absolutely amazing. Picking up my SLGA009 today however what really sets them apart from others is the customer service. Your not the first person to mention how welcoming they are to watch enthusiasts. Great list! I have a Blancpain on my wish list.
That's awesome. A Grand Seiko all-steel diver with spring drive, particularly the SBGA461 is definitely my all time grail watch alongside an Omega I have my eye on. A GS diver for 6K is a good deal for me compared to 11K from the Evolution line....eesh.
Omega Seamaster 300 Heritage, just purchased mine new a couple of weeks ago, Blue dial and very classy looking, can't stop staring at it, it will make you forget about Rolex.
What about Longines’ HydroConquest? 300 m., usually 3 case sizes and a variety of colors and bracelets! And between the $1500 and $2500 range, so you don’t give your credit card a heart attack!
I'm so pleased to hear your story about the Grand Seiko boutique I've wanted to visit for a while and it's great to hear they are so friendly and generous.
Agree 100% the Omega Planet Ocean non chrono is a beast and the quality and craftsmanship top notch the bracelet on the po feels like silk on the wrist. From a Rolex Submariner owner.
Just my unprofessional opinion but the fact that everyone is creating content about “better alternatives” to the submariner just speaks volumes about the submariner. It will always be the top steel diver that most watch people desire. Love your channel, one of my favorites and always funny and informative.
Nice story about the GS boutique. And that diver is AMAZING. I bought an SLA047 last year and I think (yeah, as an owner, and the guy who buys something NEVER makes a mistake) the monocoque MM's are far more interesting (better?) than a Sub. I'm happy with my sub homages but I had to buy a real MarineMaster. Your mom is right about the Cartier. Roman numerals on a diver makes me want to wretch. Thanks for the video. Nice job.
Hey Jory, great list. I liked Federico’s too, and it was cool that you two were on the same page with the Glasshutte, such a gem. Loved the Grand Seiko. In fact that is probably the first Grand Seiko that I could seriously see myself with. It’s very tool-watchy for them, which is a nice departure from their ultra-refined norm.
That Cartier is awesome. I also value my Omega Planet Ocean for more than I would a Submariner. In fact, I traded my Sub for the PO. The Sub had developed problems and wouldn’t run at all. I walked out with the PO and a check for $1,800.00. I had the sub for about 9 months. I have owned the PO for several years and plan on keeping it forever! I never wear a watch to impress anyone but me!
I always get great service when I go into the Seiko boutique in the city I live in. Last time I bought a watch there while they were sizing the bracelet they let me try on a SBGY007 (even though I was just buying a seiko 5), absolutely stunning watch!
I have a 2000 Rolex Explorer2(black) but since I got the BB58 I rarely wear my Rolex. The Tudor is so beautiful I find myself staring at it instead of reading the time. The size is perfect and super comfortable. As much as I’d want a Sub, I’d probably end up wearing the BB58 more often. Oh, and as of this writing, it’s 1/4th the cost of a pre-owned Sub
The story about the GS boutique and JLC should be a lesson for all salesmen. Buying a car once I was choosing between an Audi, Mercedes Benz and a BMW. At Audi and MB they basically scoffed at me when I said how much I wanted to spend as I wasn't exactly wearing my best as I'd just been to work and the clothes were a bit on the dirty side from work. At BMW the salesman sat me down, got me coffee and had a really good chat about what I was looking for. In the end I was so happy with how I was treated at BMW I actually spent a lot more than I had originally planned. One bad salesman's loss is a good salesman's gain. So just like my experience with BMW I'm sure that those guys at Grand Seiko got plenty of sales at JLC's expense.
Biff, Chad, Palmer and his wife Muffy came to the conclusion that the Submariner is the best dive/dress casual watch ever produced. Everything else is just a pitiful substitute. I don't wear it when I'm collecting the weekly rent money from my low income apts. My $80 Invicta keeps me safe from a mugging. Such savages. Rolex will turn that BlancPain out like a $20 French Ho. That GS like homely giesha with bad breath. I'd need 3 pitchers of beer and horny frauline to wear that German watch. Stick to making cars and bratwurst. Just kidding. I sold my Submariner 30 years ago. You know the one with the sheet metal clasp. Great choices Jory.
Blancpain fifty fathoms 45mm blue dial blows them all out of the ballpark if you got a7’5 inch wrist up in titanium. Sooo comfortable. Had Rolex never go back. They can self implode for all I care. Glashutte a fine watch, way underated
I want to echo those who have already mentioned the epic (though perhaps underrated?) Omega Planet Ocean. The 39.5mm was my choice. Not only a timeless beauty, it gives one the sense of being indestructible. Takes a backseat to no diver.
@@thomashowardmd247 at almost 9 inches my wrist is not medium unfortunately. the submariner looks silly on me. 45mm is good for a dress watch. for a diver i prefer 48-50mm.
If you're looking for a tool watch diver. Checkout Helm watches. Price point around $300, nh36 movement, 300m water resistance, each watch pressure tested by the owner. If you dive for a living this is the watch for you. Only drawback is you may have to wait 6 months for your order.
Very nice vid. I waited for a datejust and it was only five months, but can’t imagine a secondary market with 2x markups. As an impatient guy I was lucky I had folks keeping me calm.
I'll take my Seiko Prospex LX Spring Drive over any that you included in your list. Better fit, finish, materials, and movement than any Oyster Rolex could ever hope to cobble together. Less than half the price of GS. It is a fantastic watch at a stunning value. You should get your hands on one for a review. I called my jewler a bit before Christmas and he had a it ready for pickup in less than a week. Sticker is around 6k, but street is under 5k.
i personaly think, in terms of realy capable divers, just made for getting the job done, without any fuzz and bling, the Citzen BN0150 is probably the best divewatch on this planet. like the Seiko Tuna, its 44mm wears a lot smaller, the lume is on par with Seikos lume, its solar powered, therefor runs a long time whitout even open the caseback (therefor no risk for destroying a seel or thread and compromice the water resistance), its highly readable, the bezel is easy to grip and the whole watch is build like a tant.. and the best part is: under $200. its not a beauty, but a beast of a watch!
I have big wrists 7 5/8" and went for the Glashutte SeaQ Pano on a bracelet. I didn't even consider the current Sub the second I saw in person. Plus I got it from a AD discounted to $10,000 including a GO rubber strap and deployant buckle.
Jory, as a Quartz fiend, I’m glad to see that you included the Seiko Tuna. However, if I had access to your watch box I’d grab your G-Shock Mudmaster Triple Sensor every time. It fits my lifestyle a helluva lot better than a Rolex of any kind ever could.
I do own a Sub but Omega/Tudor probably my second choice, I do keep my eye on GS coz they got some impressive craftsmanship out there. Sadly these days ppl buying Rolex as investment, these buyers have no business with watch-making.
Hi Jory, Enjoy your channel very much. Watching you makes me happy. Being a watch appreciator not a collector I have one watch that I really enjoy, the Marathon Large GSAR. It’s built like a tank and looks good too. Thanks for the information and the entertainment. Keep up the good work!
i like Oceaneva - 1000m - the new ones are 3000m WR. One of brands that I know of that actually strapped their watches to a sub and proved they work in the deep.
Would recommend any Blancpain Fifty Fathoms. Vastly superior from a technical finishing perspective, as evident from the price differential. Lots of people will say the standard FF is too large and only Rolex keeps value. True but I don’t buy watches as a store of value because there are other things better suited. As for the size, limited edition FFs are smaller and you can sometimes get them below retail new and on secondary market they go above retail if you ban find one.
I have the planet ocean blue dial..love it..I also have the green dial Oris Aquis so great too..it’s the best green I’ve seen on a watch. Oh an I bpoght it discounted to $1800 bucks..way less than the German
There are so many great alternatives out there from the Tudor Pelagos fxd. JLC polaris, Breguet marine, multiple options from Panerai. People just need to get the whole resale value out of their minds and buy something with the intent of never selling, making resale value irrelevant.
I would recommend a 5 digit Sub. I have a 14060M which I found in mint condition with B&P for a reasonable price. Or buy a Tudor BB or Pelagos at a multi brand. It’s a great watch and you will get purchase history so you might actually end up with a Sub.
I went to Sinn EZM3F about 4 years ago...best move I ever made. It not only keeps better time than any Rolex I've ever had, (I've owned 4 of them), it's got the very cool copper sulfate capsule window, 200 meter depth rating and extremely good lume, all for around $1600.00 when I bought it. I do still have a great fondness for Rolex, but they've priced themselves out of my reach.
While it does not hold or increase in value as a Rolex does (because of all the hype), I would go for the Glashütte SeaQ, ideally with the big date function and on the steel bracelet with the built in micro-adjustment.
Depends on Sub tool or Sub luxury? if anyone is looking for sub tool, really no need to pass spending 5K. Sinn U50, BALL Engineer Hydrocarbon Original 40mm, ORIS 65 (I like initial re-issue) all are good alternative.
I have been treated poorly at boutique stores too. Even when I was wearing a gold Rolex in their store asking about the Patek. They just look at me and decided that they don’t like me and didn’t answer me questions about their stock. The other time was in Vegas Omega store at Wynn hotel. The guy was trying to manipulate me to buy a watch with a patronizing attitude, and I never look at Omega the same way again.
The best dive warch I have is probably the 2021 Omega seamaster 300 "heritage" , it's (in my opinion at least) better than de Professional, you get a better movement with twin barrel, no helium escape valve, no crown guards, domed saphir crystal and the flat links bracelet 🤷🏻♂️ plus the fact you have a 57' design with a modern movement! Very happy with it on my wrist 😁
Even at retail, considering the 2022 prices which Rolex raised significantly for their steel sports models, I wouldn’t buy it, not saying about grey market madness. Sub is a good watch, which suppose to cost 5-6k, it isn’t better than Omega SMP300m by any means
All handsome watches that I'd be pleased to have on my wrist. For dedicated divers there are some great choices that are easier on the wallet. Squale? Glycine?
To add to your comments about boutiques treating people crappy, the Tag Heuer boutique in orlando fl. Walked in with one on my wrist and got treated like a homeless person because i wasnt in a suit and tie 🤷♂️
Jory great video. I love my Sea Dweller but the diver I wear most is my Seiko SRP777 on a Strapcode Super-J "Louis" bracelet. The offset crown is perfect it doesn't smash into my wrist like other dive watches I've had.
The Blancpain Bathyscaphe is likely a better bet (and more accessible). The ZRC 1904 is another great alternative from the French. The RGM 300 from AMERICA is another great alternative.
Why wear an awkward dive watch in the first place? Would you join a board meeting in flippers just because it was supposedly trendy 20 years ago and you can afford "the best"? What's wrong wit a JLC Master Control Date, an unobtrusive Oyster Perpetual, a stunning retro Sinn 356 chrono, a minimalist Cartier Tank, a mesmerising Serica 4512, an equally iconic and bold Seiko SRPE51? To me turning bezel divers for everyday wearing are dead.
I bought a DateJust over a year ago (First Rolex) and been on a waiting list for a everyday wear Sub since. I was expecting a year wait. I finally gave in and bought a Breitling superocean 42 for 1/2 the price of a Sub. Yes I know it’s not a sub but it’s still a satisfying and great looking watch and I can close this waiting chapter, retire my everyday G Shock, couple bucks back in my pocket, and move on. Too many great watches available for purchase for me to continue to wait on a made-up list or pay 2x retail.
when looking at the Cartier, i think of the accutron ad: it's not a timepiece, it's a conversation piece. yeah the design is a bit crazed - compared to the tight design margins of most tool watches - but i like it!!
Blancpain Bathyscaphe is missing on this list. It's the Diver that outstyles and outclasses the Sub IMO and you can pick up for around $8000. I saw a Sinn U1 SDR up close a few weeks ago and I was very impressed with it. The Squale Dive Onda-B is a decent budget alternative that looks bling....
Great list Triple T! I love the SQ but my grail is the 43mm SeaQ Panorama Date. That Cartier Calibre de Diver is sweeet! I dig it as well, especially on bracelet.
Thanks, we have different taste, but I appreciate your persspective. If you are a diver, look at the Seiko Monster family. Uses the difference to pay for the trip. Cheers ! Nothing like looking at a watch you took on a cave dive when you are working to remind you of what you could be doing.
Disagree with the tuna. It’s Just not as versatile, not as dressy. A more budget friendly option might be the new Aquis. Or the Seamaster. Or the Superocean Heritage. They maintain the sports looks and diver specs, but also look good dressed up or down.
At 58 and being a sun roasted Aussie, nice easy listening reviews. I've basically worn out my Diver / Scuba watches over the years. 85 Tag pro 1000, 95 Omega pro200. Zodiac ZO8000 44mm.(My first was the 69 Seiko Hibeat 150m Diver in 77 used, loved it to corroded destruction ) . I've realized it's such a personal choice what someone puts on their wrist, all I can say is to never buy on impulse, think about who you are, and not who you think you are, it may save a lot of hard earned cash. I wear the Seiko SPB 143 & 207LE on steel (sweaty 6 months of the year) these days purely as common sense beaters. Cheers from Australia "down under". Johno :)
Sinn: I have a U1000 and 756 Diapal (not a diver), also U1/U2, T1/T2. Doxa, Omega, AP Blancpain Bathy still the best Sub replacement that works with everything. I love my IWC Aquatimer 2000 3536.
Wait, what did I see at 5:22? Was that an Invicta-esque engraving on the left side of the case?!?! Did Invicta copy that move from Blancpain, and if they did, why does everybody not have a problem with saying how tacky it looks on the Invicta? It looks tacky even on an expensive classic Blancpain!!!
The Seiko Arnie, with a steel shroud, Strapco bracelet and MarineMaster clasp makes a good SBBN031 twin, for half the price. Though if you want something you can actually take diving without any stress, a Casio Duro is thee thing.
Let’s see a Vostok episode. I live in Japan and am team seiko but ….but I have like 20 Vostoks I love to mod them and wear them. I would love to see your take on them 🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽
How about doing a vid on better alternatives for the DEEPSEA SEA-DWELLER for those of us that prefer a larger, better fitting wrist presence? The Cartier, Grand Seiko & possibly your MarineMaster quartz are a nice start but, how about some alternatives that can compete with the DEEPSEA SEA-DWELLER depth rating? BTW - totally enjoyed this Submariner alternative vid⌚😎👍
I tried on the Glashutte at an AD in Chicago and it was fantastic. I only wish it had the movement with 100 hour power reserve and display caseback of its bigger brother the, panorama date.
Lol, I couldn't stop laughing at Jory's JLC experience because it's so true! I had the exact same thing happen to me at the JLC boutique in New York City, and I was there to service my 18k rose gold Master Calendar!
I have the 16610 Sub and the Go sea q panorama date, the bigger brother. Both exceptional . I would postulate, having owned my sub ref for 32 years that nothing beats the pre ceramics. The Go is exceptional too, and if it was a choice between the new sub and the GO I would go for the GO. ....Why? Nobody knows what it is, it flys so low under the radar and its a classic in the making.
Breitling Superocean 42. Automatic. 500M water resistance. Amazing lume. Can buy new for $3,500. Bulletproof watch. I own the white dial, blue bezel. Great daily wear.
Second video I’ve watched and I really like your content. I really like the 43.2 Glashutte for my wrist size. The only one I would’ve added to the list is the most recent PO in the 43.5 size even though I feel my favorite PO is when they updated it with the ceramic bezel and the 8500 movement. Anyways thanks for making this video and will definitely follow for more content.
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Thank you for the very kind shout out!
Never wore a watch my entire adult life until this month. I am 42. I went with the Seamaster 300 gray dial, blue bezel, blue rubber strap. My test for picking was which watch will I want to keep and pay for service for during the rest of my life. Happy with the decision. Cheers!
Damn, that is a great first piece. Wear it in good health!
"during the rest of my life", famous last words huh
Hope to get a 2nd piece on a future day.
Well chosen. A Seamaster was my first as well. Says I 40/50 watches later.
See your smarter than me I was a shmuck starting with the Tags, graduating to the Breitlings and eventually ending at Omega. I wish like hell I would have started with Omega. You live and you learn
I'm wearing a stainless steel 31 jewel automatic dive watch. It keeps excellent time. It gets attention. It gets compliments. Its an 090 Vostok Amphibia. It costs $73. I can't imagine a watch that costs four times more than my car, that does virtually everything this one does yet is less waterproof.
great watch. Should have made it into this list :-D , the 090 is by far the nicer Amphibia imho. I would wear my Amphibias more often if they just had developed a quicker setup for the calendar (it is a problem if you like to change watch every few days). But they are keepers, I love and use them as well as my Omegas and Seikos.
@@sandrodunatov485 Good point about the date. I have four Amphibias with the no-date 2415 movement, and three Komandirskies with the dreaded date feature. They're all great fun. Cheers 🍻. !
Good taste and sense. You can look at a Vostok and say "It's just a bloody watch ". They're always stylish too. Cheers 🍻!
That's called logic and it works...kudos..
1🎯🎯% My buddy at work wearing his Vostok "scuba dude" with the sweeping diver on the sec hand is what got me back into watches! I had no idea that autos were attainable, let alone relatively cheap... 🤯 Currently rotating an Orient Mako 2, Seiko 5 sport, and a Citizen fieldwatch along with my beloved G-shock DW5600. All for less than half of what those plastic MoonSwatch Speedy (quartz!) emulations are reselling for 👍 Oh hell yeah
Submariner seams that nothing is in the wrong place. Just a perfect combination of forms and materials and a design that will last forever. It's the Porsche 911 of watches.
I am very fortunate to have both a Submariner and a 911 and yes, there is no substitute for either.
A timeless design, like the waiting.
Nothing liek a porche 911, analogies from watches to cars are rubbish, a 911 can out perform most cars at its price range, a sub cant do any better in performance than a 100 dollar ali express watch, its just a brand
You are correct sir.
@@becksy539 Well please show me where the $100 chronometer rated watches with true 300m water resistance that can last a few lifetimes all the while appreciating in value are. I'd like to buy a couple of hundred of them.
Choose the Planet Ocean if you want a top tier dive watch. Choose the Submainer if you just want something with Rolex written on it.
Never pay over retail for a sports watch unless your a brainwashed fomo Rolex junky
Unusually, I felt incredibly ignored at my Omega AD. Did they have watches in stock? Yes. But they acted like I wasn’t a serious customer and ignored my pricing questions as if I wasn’t a buyer. I went into my Rolex AD (no purchase history) and was treated like royalty. No watches in stock, but I was sat down, offered a drink, and enjoyed an exciting conversation with the rep. I was assured that I will receive a sub, it will just take a few months. Insane how backwards this seems from what most people declare online. Hope I actually get it 😂
You will get a submariner in just a few months? I highly doubt that.
If they told you that, you can believe them. You took the time to sit down and have a nice conversation with a rep... you know, like normal humans do. I'm sure they have plenty of people that come in and ask to be on the waitlist. They're not in a rush to fool you into thinking you're gonna get one. What you may not know is that it's also a part of their process... they're vetting you as you speak. And this is why building a relationship (a human one) is so important. Believe it or not, but some of these ADs really want these watches to go to good homes. And they are doing a lot to ensure that happens. With everything that's going on right now on the gray market, you can't blame them for their apprehension. There is so much negativity out there about Rolex, ADs, and the gray market but as with all things, at the end of the day it's a matter of supply and demand. Can't hate on Rolex just because so many people want their watches. That's ludicrous. I know plenty of people who had little to no purchase history that were awarded the opportunity (after 2-6 months waiting) to buy the Rolex they wanted simply because they built a relationship with an AD that wasn't necessarily monetary. They were just being enthusiasts looking for the watch they wanted. Why isn't that a real thing anymore? Why do we walk into ADs with a sh*t attitude like these guys are the enemy? If you can prove to these guys you're not another snarky, bitter a-hole that whine on the internet about how they can't get a watch then maybe... Just maybe you've got a good chance. Good luck brotha and hope you get it!!
@@janelavie4115 my co worker got one after 6 months. It can be done. Waiting list is not real. They pick and choose who gets one.
valetudo025 Waiting list is 100% real. But of course they can give a shortcut to somebody if they want.
@@janelavie4115 so that’s what I mean. It’s not really a waiting list in the traditional sense. They pick and choose who can have one. You are not in a numbered line done fairly.
I had a great experience at the JLC boutique in Sydney. I was just window shopping and they knew it, but still brought out the fine whiskey and we had a long conversation about watches with the salesman and the store manager well past closing time. One of the best watch retail experience I’ve ever had.
Since you recommended the Glasshute. For a more affordable option with similar design I also recommend the Brietling Superocean 42mm.
I actually like the Cartier Diver also. No one else does 😆.
A Brietling, is that a fake Breitling?
Cartier dive in gold is a beautiful thong frown
That Cartier is just so in far left field. They need to hire some new designers to design their diver watches.
@@e28forever30 The same Alibaba vendors who sell Brietlings also offer the aforementioned Glasshutes.
@@Spurdospaerde692 😆
Grand Seiko’s are absolutely amazing. Picking up my SLGA009 today however what really sets them apart from others is the customer service. Your not the first person to mention how welcoming they are to watch enthusiasts. Great list! I have a Blancpain on my wish list.
That's awesome. A Grand Seiko all-steel diver with spring drive, particularly the SBGA461 is definitely my all time grail watch alongside an Omega I have my eye on. A GS diver for 6K is a good deal for me compared to 11K from the Evolution line....eesh.
Omega Seamaster 300 Heritage, just purchased mine new a couple of weeks ago, Blue dial and very classy looking, can't stop staring at it, it will make you forget about Rolex.
What about Longines’ HydroConquest? 300 m., usually 3 case sizes and a variety of colors and bracelets! And between the $1500 and $2500 range, so you don’t give your credit card a heart attack!
I'm so pleased to hear your story about the Grand Seiko boutique I've wanted to visit for a while and it's great to hear they are so friendly and generous.
As a Rolex Collector.
Has to be The Omega Seamaster 300 42m by far it has everything 👌
Got the BB58. Fantastic watch! Don’t underestimate Christopher Ward Trident C60’s.
I would love to see you do a hands on review of a Marathon GSAR
I’d pick an Omega Planet Ocean for a diver over a submariner
Impeccable choice. In fact, I feel BETTER in all situations with a PO on my wrist as opposed to the Rolex baggage.
I'd pick an Omega over a Rolex any day....not that I can afford either
Damn right
Yes i have the PO and it’s awsome!
Agree 100% the Omega Planet Ocean non chrono is a beast and the quality and craftsmanship top notch the bracelet on the po feels like silk on the wrist. From a Rolex Submariner owner.
Totally agree on the tuna.
I recommend a black bay 58. I know it's been said a thousand times but fantastic value and luxury feel without the rolex crap
Yep, bad miss from a brand actually designed to replace Rolex for the reasons he is harping on about.
Or the Captain Cook from Rado. Very different perspectives.
I got my BB58. What’s one to do with the other $10g’s?
If you are happy with a subby homage then BB is way to go. It’s high quality for sure.
Just my unprofessional opinion but the fact that everyone is creating content about “better alternatives” to the submariner just speaks volumes about the submariner. It will always be the top steel diver that most watch people desire. Love your channel, one of my favorites and always funny and informative.
Man I love how you added the GS Diver. They seriously need more attention.
Ot's pretty much a .... Seiko.
Nice story about the GS boutique. And that diver is AMAZING. I bought an SLA047 last year and I think (yeah, as an owner, and the guy who buys something NEVER makes a mistake) the monocoque MM's are far more interesting (better?) than a Sub. I'm happy with my sub homages but I had to buy a real MarineMaster. Your mom is right about the Cartier. Roman numerals on a diver makes me want to wretch. Thanks for the video. Nice job.
Right there with you about Roman numerals, bro.🤮
So glad you mentioned the Cartier, I love that Cartier and it’s on my wishlist!
I’m jealous!!
Can’t find it on their website is it discontinued?
@@nicpro85 yep, discontinued sadly.
Hey Jory, great list. I liked Federico’s too, and it was cool that you two were on the same page with the Glasshutte, such a gem. Loved the Grand Seiko. In fact that is probably the first Grand Seiko that I could seriously see myself with. It’s very tool-watchy for them, which is a nice departure from their ultra-refined norm.
That Cartier is awesome. I also value my Omega Planet Ocean for more than I would a Submariner. In fact, I traded my Sub for the PO. The Sub had developed problems and wouldn’t run at all. I walked out with the PO and a check for $1,800.00. I had the sub for about 9 months. I have owned the PO for several years and plan on keeping it forever! I never wear a watch to impress anyone but me!
I always get great service when I go into the Seiko boutique in the city I live in. Last time I bought a watch there while they were sizing the bracelet they let me try on a SBGY007 (even though I was just buying a seiko 5), absolutely stunning watch!
I have a 2000 Rolex Explorer2(black) but since I got the BB58 I rarely wear my Rolex. The Tudor is so beautiful I find myself staring at it instead of reading the time. The size is perfect and super comfortable. As much as I’d want a Sub, I’d probably end up wearing the BB58 more often. Oh, and as of this writing, it’s 1/4th the cost of a pre-owned Sub
I like my Ginault OR2. It a great homage for 1/10th the price of a sub.
The story about the GS boutique and JLC should be a lesson for all salesmen. Buying a car once I was choosing between an Audi, Mercedes Benz and a BMW. At Audi and MB they basically scoffed at me when I said how much I wanted to spend as I wasn't exactly wearing my best as I'd just been to work and the clothes were a bit on the dirty side from work. At BMW the salesman sat me down, got me coffee and had a really good chat about what I was looking for. In the end I was so happy with how I was treated at BMW I actually spent a lot more than I had originally planned. One bad salesman's loss is a good salesman's gain. So just like my experience with BMW I'm sure that those guys at Grand Seiko got plenty of sales at JLC's expense.
Biff, Chad, Palmer and his wife Muffy came to the conclusion that the Submariner is the best dive/dress casual watch ever produced. Everything else is just a pitiful substitute. I don't wear it when I'm collecting the weekly rent money from my low income apts. My $80 Invicta keeps me safe from a mugging. Such savages.
Rolex will turn that BlancPain out like a $20 French Ho. That GS like homely giesha with bad breath.
I'd need 3 pitchers of beer and horny frauline to wear that German watch. Stick to making cars and bratwurst.
Just kidding. I sold my Submariner 30 years ago. You know the one with the sheet metal clasp.
Great choices Jory.
Muffy stepped on a ping pong ball at the country club. It was ghastly.
Blancpain fifty fathoms 45mm blue dial blows them all out of the ballpark if you got a7’5 inch wrist up in titanium. Sooo comfortable. Had Rolex never go back. They can self implode for all I care. Glashutte a fine watch, way underated
Glashutte makes badass watches. Nice to see them getting some props.
I want to echo those who have already mentioned the epic (though perhaps underrated?) Omega Planet Ocean. The 39.5mm was my choice. Not only a timeless beauty, it gives one the sense of being indestructible. Takes a backseat to no diver.
it's just too tiny. nit everyone has tiny wrists.
@@thomashowardmd247 at almost 9 inches my wrist is not medium unfortunately. the submariner looks silly on me. 45mm is good for a dress watch. for a diver i prefer 48-50mm.
Agree mate. The best diver. I love mine and fine it very classy.
@@louiscyfer6944 I've got an Oris Pro Diver that you would like for the larger wrist.
@@marteanderson7963 what's the size?
If you're looking for a tool watch diver. Checkout Helm watches. Price point around $300, nh36 movement, 300m water resistance, each watch pressure tested by the owner. If you dive for a living this is the watch for you. Only drawback is you may have to wait 6 months for your order.
Love the Glashutte!
Very nice vid. I waited for a datejust and it was only five months, but can’t imagine a secondary market with 2x markups. As an impatient guy I was lucky I had folks keeping me calm.
I'll take my Seiko Prospex LX Spring Drive over any that you included in your list. Better fit, finish, materials, and movement than any Oyster Rolex could ever hope to cobble together. Less than half the price of GS. It is a fantastic watch at a stunning value. You should get your hands on one for a review. I called my jewler a bit before Christmas and he had a it ready for pickup in less than a week. Sticker is around 6k, but street is under 5k.
LOL Just no
i personaly think, in terms of realy capable divers, just made for getting the job done, without any fuzz and bling, the Citzen BN0150 is probably the best divewatch on this planet. like the Seiko Tuna, its 44mm wears a lot smaller, the lume is on par with Seikos lume, its solar powered, therefor runs a long time whitout even open the caseback (therefor no risk for destroying a seel or thread and compromice the water resistance), its highly readable, the bezel is easy to grip and the whole watch is build like a tant.. and the best part is: under $200. its not a beauty, but a beast of a watch!
I’m putting my pennies away for a Pelagos. I’m a big guy, so the size works for me and that blue is just *chefs kiss*
I am selling mine, let me know if you are interested
I have big wrists 7 5/8" and went for the Glashutte SeaQ Pano on a bracelet. I didn't even consider the current Sub the second I saw in person. Plus I got it from a AD discounted to $10,000 including a GO rubber strap and deployant buckle.
that's big wrists?
Why do they call it ovaltine? The bottle is round, the cup is round, they should call it roundtine! -This is gold Jerry
That Blancpain really hit me hard! What a watch!!
Jori love your videos. Thank you. Yes I would highly recommend Doxa and Sinn divers are far superior to a Rolex Sub.
Jory, as a Quartz fiend, I’m glad to see that you included the Seiko Tuna. However, if I had access to your watch box I’d grab your G-Shock Mudmaster Triple Sensor every time. It fits my lifestyle a helluva lot better than a Rolex of any kind ever could.
I do own a Sub but Omega/Tudor probably my second choice, I do keep my eye on GS coz they got some impressive craftsmanship out there. Sadly these days ppl buying Rolex as investment, these buyers have no business with watch-making.
Hi Jory,
Enjoy your channel very much. Watching you makes me happy. Being a watch appreciator not a collector I have one watch that I really enjoy, the Marathon Large GSAR. It’s built like a tank and looks good too. Thanks for the information and the entertainment. Keep up the good work!
i like Oceaneva - 1000m - the new ones are 3000m WR. One of brands that I know of that actually strapped their watches to a sub and proved they work in the deep.
Would recommend any Blancpain Fifty Fathoms. Vastly superior from a technical finishing perspective, as evident from the price differential. Lots of people will say the standard FF is too large and only Rolex keeps value. True but I don’t buy watches as a store of value because there are other things better suited. As for the size, limited edition FFs are smaller and you can sometimes get them below retail new and on secondary market they go above retail if you ban find one.
Thanks a lot!.....after watching this video I bought another watch!....the baby tuna frost dial.....great video!
I have the planet ocean blue dial..love it..I also have the green dial Oris Aquis so great too..it’s the best green I’ve seen on a watch. Oh an I bpoght it discounted to $1800 bucks..way less than the German
There are so many great alternatives out there from the Tudor Pelagos fxd. JLC polaris, Breguet marine, multiple options from Panerai. People just need to get the whole resale value out of their minds and buy something with the intent of never selling, making resale value irrelevant.
I would recommend a 5 digit Sub. I have a 14060M which I found in mint condition with B&P for a reasonable price. Or buy a Tudor BB or Pelagos at a multi brand. It’s a great watch and you will get purchase history so you might actually end up with a Sub.
Great advice. The 14060M is a lovely watch.
If you have a chance, please review the jaquet droz grand seconde SW.
I went to Sinn EZM3F about 4 years ago...best move I ever made. It not only keeps better time than any Rolex I've ever had, (I've owned 4 of them), it's got the very cool copper sulfate capsule window, 200 meter depth rating and extremely good lume, all for around $1600.00 when I bought it. I do still have a great fondness for Rolex, but they've priced themselves out of my reach.
While it does not hold or increase in value as a Rolex does (because of all the hype), I would go for the Glashütte SeaQ, ideally with the big date function and on the steel bracelet with the built in micro-adjustment.
That Cartier and Blackpain looks really neat.
Watching this while wearing my Sbdx017 Marinemaster. 😎
I watched this video a month or so ago and was really taken with the Glashutte Original. So now I’m an owner of one-my first luxury watch!
Depends on Sub tool or Sub luxury? if anyone is looking for sub tool, really no need to pass spending 5K. Sinn U50, BALL Engineer Hydrocarbon Original 40mm, ORIS 65 (I like initial re-issue) all are good alternative.
great work mate,I always enjoy your enthusiasm and content.
I have been treated poorly at boutique stores too. Even when I was wearing a gold Rolex in their store asking about the Patek. They just look at me and decided that they don’t like me and didn’t answer me questions about their stock. The other time was in Vegas Omega store at Wynn hotel. The guy was trying to manipulate me to buy a watch with a patronizing attitude, and I never look at Omega the same way again.
The best dive warch I have is probably the 2021 Omega seamaster 300 "heritage" , it's (in my opinion at least) better than de Professional, you get a better movement with twin barrel, no helium escape valve, no crown guards, domed saphir crystal and the flat links bracelet 🤷🏻♂️ plus the fact you have a 57' design with a modern movement! Very happy with it on my wrist 😁
Love that Glashute🥰
Even at retail, considering the 2022 prices which Rolex raised significantly for their steel sports models, I wouldn’t buy it, not saying about grey market madness. Sub is a good watch, which suppose to cost 5-6k, it isn’t better than Omega SMP300m by any means
Absolutely NOTHING is better than THE SUBMARINER...................
Great line up but I would have also included a Jaeger, Longines or a Jack Turner
All handsome watches that I'd be pleased to have on my wrist. For dedicated divers there are some great choices that are easier on the wallet. Squale? Glycine?
I would add to the list;
-Ulysse Nardin Diver marine
-titoni seascoper 600
-pequignet royale 300
-Bremont Supermarine
-Raketa Amphibia
these are just cheaper, not better
To add to your comments about boutiques treating people crappy, the Tag Heuer boutique in orlando fl. Walked in with one on my wrist and got treated like a homeless person because i wasnt in a suit and tie 🤷♂️
Grand seiko boutique in London always pleasant to visit and very helpful. I don't dress up either and always welcoming.
Jory great video. I love my Sea Dweller but the diver I wear most is my Seiko SRP777 on a Strapcode Super-J "Louis" bracelet. The offset crown is perfect it doesn't smash into my wrist like other dive watches I've had.
The Blancpain Bathyscaphe is likely a better bet (and more accessible). The ZRC 1904 is another great alternative from the French. The RGM 300 from AMERICA is another great alternative.
Why wear an awkward dive watch in the first place? Would you join a board meeting in flippers just because it was supposedly trendy 20 years ago and you can afford "the best"? What's wrong wit a JLC Master Control Date, an unobtrusive Oyster Perpetual, a stunning retro Sinn 356 chrono, a minimalist Cartier Tank, a mesmerising Serica 4512, an equally iconic and bold Seiko SRPE51? To me turning bezel divers for everyday wearing are dead.
I bought a DateJust over a year ago (First Rolex) and been on a waiting list for a everyday wear Sub since. I was expecting a year wait. I finally gave in and bought a Breitling superocean 42 for 1/2 the price of a Sub. Yes I know it’s not a sub but it’s still a satisfying and great looking watch and I can close this waiting chapter, retire my everyday G Shock, couple bucks back in my pocket, and move on. Too many great watches available for purchase for me to continue to wait on a made-up list or pay 2x retail.
More of these lists 😬 great video.
when looking at the Cartier, i think of the accutron ad: it's not a timepiece, it's a conversation piece. yeah the design is a bit crazed - compared to the tight design margins of most tool watches - but i like it!!
Blancpain Bathyscaphe is missing on this list. It's the Diver that outstyles and outclasses the Sub IMO and you can pick up for around $8000. I saw a Sinn U1 SDR up close a few weeks ago and I was very impressed with it. The Squale Dive Onda-B is a decent budget alternative that looks bling....
Great list Triple T! I love the SQ but my grail is the 43mm SeaQ Panorama Date. That Cartier Calibre de Diver is sweeet! I dig it as well, especially on bracelet.
Thanks, we have different taste, but I appreciate your persspective. If you are a diver, look at the Seiko Monster family. Uses the difference to pay for the trip. Cheers ! Nothing like looking at a watch you took on a cave dive when you are working to remind you of what you could be doing.
Disagree with the tuna. It’s Just not as versatile, not as dressy. A more budget friendly option might be the new Aquis. Or the Seamaster. Or the Superocean Heritage. They maintain the sports looks and diver specs, but also look good dressed up or down.
At 58 and being a sun roasted Aussie, nice easy listening reviews. I've basically worn out my Diver / Scuba watches over the years. 85 Tag pro 1000, 95 Omega pro200. Zodiac ZO8000 44mm.(My first was the 69 Seiko Hibeat 150m Diver in 77 used, loved it to corroded destruction ) . I've realized it's such a personal choice what someone puts on their wrist, all I can say is to never buy on impulse, think about who you are, and not who you think you are, it may save a lot of hard earned cash. I wear the Seiko SPB 143 & 207LE on steel (sweaty 6 months of the year) these days purely as common sense beaters. Cheers from Australia "down under". Johno :)
Completely agree about the Cartier! My next watch purchase, absolutely killer af and so underrated! Glad it is!
Sinn: I have a U1000 and 756 Diapal (not a diver), also U1/U2, T1/T2.
Doxa, Omega, AP
Blancpain Bathy still the best Sub replacement that works with everything.
I love my IWC Aquatimer 2000 3536.
Wait, what did I see at 5:22? Was that an Invicta-esque engraving on the left side of the case?!?! Did Invicta copy that move from Blancpain, and if they did, why does everybody not have a problem with saying how tacky it looks on the Invicta? It looks tacky even on an expensive classic Blancpain!!!
I kind think that you overlooked a big one. I'm talking about the Tissot Seastar 2000 Professional.
The Casio Duro .
Great list. I totally agree with you on the Cartier. Such a unique watch. I wish I bought one when it was available at the boutique.
The Seiko Arnie, with a steel shroud, Strapco bracelet and MarineMaster clasp makes a good SBBN031 twin, for half the price. Though if you want something you can actually take diving without any stress, a Casio Duro is thee thing.
Casio Duro deserves more love. Just replace the original rubber strap.
@@claudiourrutiaaranguiz9281 I have seen factory bracelets for them on Ebay.
I just got the nato adapter for my vintage frogman, I LOVE IT!
Sinn U1 is a beast !
The Cartier is a Knockout. Black on Silver is da Bomb. My favorite diver next to anything Seiko
my god that Blancpain is really gorgeous!! nice video!!
Let’s see a Vostok episode. I live in Japan and am team seiko but ….but I have like 20 Vostoks I love to mod them and wear them. I would love to see your take on them 🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽
He's done at least two episodes about Vostok Amphibia.
My classic Pro Diver is a work horse and looks nice. The NH35a is a proven caliber and found in many watches that sell for $500-800.
All these UA-cam “experts" claim to know what makes a diver watch good or bad when the only thing they do is desk dive 😂😂
How about doing a vid on better alternatives for the DEEPSEA SEA-DWELLER for those of us that prefer a larger, better fitting wrist presence?
The Cartier, Grand Seiko & possibly your MarineMaster quartz are a nice start but, how about some alternatives that can compete with the DEEPSEA SEA-DWELLER depth rating?
BTW - totally enjoyed this Submariner alternative vid⌚😎👍
I tried on the Glashutte at an AD in Chicago and it was fantastic. I only wish it had the movement with 100 hour power reserve and display caseback of its bigger brother the, panorama date.
Lol, I couldn't stop laughing at Jory's JLC experience because it's so true! I had the exact same thing happen to me at the JLC boutique in New York City, and I was there to service my 18k rose gold Master Calendar!
I have the 16610 Sub and the Go sea q panorama date, the bigger brother. Both exceptional . I would postulate, having owned my sub ref for 32 years that nothing beats the pre ceramics. The Go is exceptional too, and if it was a choice between the new sub and the GO I would go for the GO. ....Why? Nobody knows what it is, it flys so low under the radar and its a classic in the making.
Squale shoud've gotten some love on this one
Breitling Superocean 42. Automatic. 500M water resistance. Amazing lume. Can buy new for $3,500. Bulletproof watch. I own the white dial, blue bezel. Great daily wear.
Second video I’ve watched and I really like your content. I really like the 43.2 Glashutte for my wrist size. The only one I would’ve added to the list is the most recent PO in the 43.5 size even though I feel my favorite PO is when they updated it with the ceramic bezel and the 8500 movement. Anyways thanks for making this video and will definitely follow for more content.