Primary Tier List for Terminids | Helldivers 2 | Post Patch 01.000.300
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People forget always that one handed weapons can be fired while democratically retreating, you can shoot one handed behind you. Very useful when mobbed
One handed weapons can be fired behind you while democratically advancing in another direction. We do not "retreat," helldiver.
So, according the Eravin, the rework makes the exploding crossbow into a stealth take down weapon instead of a Eruptor clone.
Also the magazine changes were not entirely a nerf. They reduced the total magazines but increases the magazines you get when you pick up ammo. Which also playes into it being a stealth weapon.
What I've run into with weapons that only fill half their mags per ammo box is they tend to only work with more aggressive, higher death count playstyles. Because otherwise you really run out of ammo in any protracted engagement.
The Adjudicator also had the problem really bad in the prior patch. Not only did it only get 6 mags, but you only got 3 per resupply. You basically had to run it with a supply pack and another ammo hog to get results.
Thing is, I've also found that with the Defender, with the Ballistic Shield bit build: because it only gets half its ammo per pack, I can end up in a lot of spots where I'm completely out of ammo and no resupply beacon in sight...
Punisher is S tier for me against the terminids. Damage and stagger are unmatched. Running dry is never a problem for me as i reload after every enemy encounter, pump action means you cant spam it which helps to conserve ammo. Sure the slow rate of fire doesnt handle crowds well. But when paired with the rover to help with crowds and impact grenades you can become an unstoppable force of nature with it against the bugs. I also use the senator for hive guards and the quasar for heavies. Last mission i did ended up getting 625 kills and only 2 deaths on suicide difficulty.
May I ask you a question? How does this setup fare against shriekers? Because one of my concerns with picking a build is that if I deploy close to a nest I will have a lot of them coming my way, and it seems to me Punisher is not the best option for aerial targets. Is the Rover enough?
Edit: with Punisher I mean Plasma Punisher.
@@leonardorossi998no idea. I used it once on a bot mission and never again. Went back to the scorcher as my main for bots. But I'm guessing you're going to have a bad time trying to hit shriekers with something that arcs. I would throw an eagle or Orbital against that then run. Rover helps, but not by much.
@@theoldspiceguy7977 Aaaah, sorry, I now realized you were talking about the Punisher, not the Plasma Punisher. Sorry :P
Yeah, standard Punisher really helps a lot with controlling things that like to come at you, like Berserkers or... well, every bug.
Plasma Punisher is actually pretty good against Bots now that they have increased the projectile speed, and made the AoE match the particle effect. You can kill chaff and striders effectively, and lock down berserkers and devastators, making the heavy ones much more manageable. It also has a low noise profile, which means sometimes you don't have to fight all the guards at an objective. It takes some getting used to and without a supply pack you'll run out of ammo pretty quickly, but it's pretty good at covering for whatever your support weapon might be lacking
@@leonardorossi998 I heard good things about it. Just I don't think I'd be very good with it. Scorcher shreds striders to. As far as bringing a supply pack for ammo no can do as I mostly use an autocannon for support. Occasionally though I do use the AMR and bring a backpack for that due to the AMR's low ammo count
@@theoldspiceguy7977 Actually, I've tried with the autocannon and the ammo economy wasn't too bad if you have some resupplies or ammo.
Scorcher is still a great weapon, absolutely. It doesn't lock down devastators, but if you use the Autocannon you don't need that.
One thing about the Plasma Punisher: do not use it with the portable energy shield. It will not go through and explode in your face.
For the eruptor they said they will not remove the ability to close bug holes, just the shrapnel. In order to compensate it will do more dmg
I mostly agree with all your senitments in this video. The Blitzer I tried on the recent TCS missions on Max Difficulty. The damage is amazing! One tapping most things smaller than a charger is insane. But it gets held back by 1 thing. The Aim/Hit logic (not sure how to say it) focuses the closest 'hittable' thing. It gets stuck on the dead bug bodies. The Punisher and Slugger stand a bit above it I think. Until they update the body focus thingy? Not as good as it could be.
For the adjudicator, equip fortified or engineering armor, then crouch before you shoot. It turns into a laser when you build for it, and the high damage per bullet eats through almost everything
If you’re already familiar with how arc damage works you can become a god. My role in the team is to eradicate hunter groups and the blitzer’s stagger is perfect for that. I can rush into the middle of 5 or 6 hunters and come out unscathed by pairing melee attacks followed up by lightning to the face
I swear I was one of the few that ran the plasma shogun before the buff and it was really good before I always thought it was in part with the scorcher
When did they say the eruptor won't destroy bug holes anymore? I'm pretty sure they said they're removing the shrapnel effect but it will still be able to destroy bug holes with explosive damage.
A lot of people weren’t aware that the explosion had two components, an AoE explosion part and a shrapnel projectiles part. So when they mentioned removing the shrapnel, people thought they meant the AoE effect was being removed.
The ammo “nerfs” also came with an ammo per brick buff which is overlooked bc my teammates don’t believe in calling in a resupply anyways.
Your teammates play the game wierd
@@ericlinville564 nice. Now that the ammo per brick was buffed, nobody needs to take 2. 1 for all 4 of us
Energy weapon supremacy
I've really been liking the Blitzer and used it all last night on level 7. I need to bring a longer range secondary but it handles crowds really well. Love the eruptor but if I die and I'm not thrown near my stalwart it is hard to use when surrounded.
Take the Redeemer sidearm with Eruptor + Stalwart loadout so you don't have that problem.
@@Brock_Savage most times I do, but I've been liking the senator now with the quick reload.
My favorite is sickle for any planet that isn’t hot. If it’s got the breaker incinerator.
You should have pictures of the weapon as you call them out
Can you make a tier list video for the automatons? This was pretty spot on
Yes in the works currently
Thank you for acknowledging the goodness of the scythe. It’s actually quite good for chaff/trash clear. Lots of people shit on the scythe but I actually quite like it. That said, it is intrinsically a little weird to use because it’s hard to aim, and not as easy as the sickle that essentially just shoots bullets. The scythe forces you to aim carefully and track targets to keep the beam on them. That’s probably really tough if you are playing on controller, so i get why people don’t like it. But the Rover Guard Dog proves that the scythe is very effective when applied properly.
I have never gotten more kills than when I use the pure laser beam loadout with laser cannon, scythe, and rover guard dog. Even if the guard dog is responsible for about half of my 500 kills in one mission, haha.
I use this too and i think its amazing i never have to reload i just switch to the canon when allmost overheating
0 stagger=not good
Add the backpack rover and you have the power of 2 lasers
I use the breaker incendiary as I don't think any other gun in the game can get me 1000+ kills a match with no rover.
Yea that guns nuts. I haven’t unlocked it yet, but I’ve picked it up a few times. That thing slays.
Your prediction about the Eruptor aged well. 👌
Like milk 🥛
Support weapon tier list when ? 😊
I will update it since a new patch came out
I just don't know what Arrowhead wants from each weapon. It seems like they make a good weapon, and instead of moving on, they go back and nerf it. Then they have some guns that bring solutions without a problem to solve, like the spray and pray and the Lib-C. The infinite ammo Sickle is way better than the normal Assault rifles, which is wild to me. I think Arrowhead really overestimates the power of armor piercing weapons and underestimates the power of explosive weapons.
Personally, Breaker S&P needs to be at least B tier
The amount of ammo you get is more than double the Breaker (8 mags to 9 mags, 13 shells to 26 shells) and the fire rate is higher
The lower damage is made up by the crazy amount of ammo
They don’t call it the Spray and Pray for nothing
The adjudicator feels great.... For about the 1 sec thst it shoots.
Good lord doest feel awful to constantly reload that thing.
And I have no idead how they're gonna bakance that wepoan as well. Cause od they give it more ammmo, then it just power creeps every other AR.
They're goinf for this horizontal balance philosophy, but I swer to god I have no idead how they'll pull that off
Finally somebody gives the Punisher Plasma its due. I have been using it almost exclusively lately and I'm basically a god.
If S stand's for suicide then yes it is S tier... I seriously would rather go in with an adjudicator than the punisher plasma
@@Flames-dp6hw That's cool. You go use your adjudicator and I'll keep absolutely destroying with the punisher plasma and having a blast doing it without fear of it ever getting nerfed because it's off-meta.
@@connman8d617 oh I never take that garbage in I am just saying that I would rather have the absolutely useless adjudicator than the suicide punisher
Yeah, I agree. The assault rifles aren’t bad, but you ask yourself why you’re using them.
I main the Liberator Penetrator, and I like it, but 100%, it does not compete with a lot of guns. Things like the Eruptor are just so much superior it’s not even funny. The assault rifles don’t have a niche or specialization which is better than things like the Dominator or Eruptor save targeting scavengers and hunters faster.
Al primary weapons are mediocre in my opinion. But with some of them combined with a good strategem loadout it can make you a really good player.
Wait, what?! They killed the Eruptor's ability to blow up bug holes? The Eruptor with the Uzi sidearm is (was?) THE build for me. Pops pretty much anything other than Chargers and Titans in 1-3 shots. Plus, blowing the holes replaced the need for the grenade pistol. I've defended most of the Devs changes to weapons... but they really are just killing fun now.
Pretty sure he says they ‘will’ do a hotfix and implement this change. Never seen/heard it before tho so let’s hope it won’t go through!
As of last Friday night, I could still close bug holes
Relax it still closes bug holes
From what I’ve heard the hotfix is to remove the shrapnel but they said they’d increase the impact damage as compensation and that it’ll keep its ability to close bug holes.
I misread the patch notes. You will lose the shrapnel ability on the gun but you will still be able to close bug holes and fabricators.
You should add some background music & talk faster with more energy imo
I am currently working on my public speaking skills
@@WiseGuyVito this video is great! Keep up the good work 💪
Most of these guns are D tier against bugs. Lol
they need to stop nerfs and start buffing so we can get most guns in s class... don't be like other games, this is the way of democracy ✊