Thank you Gary and Doug. What a fantastic overview of velomobiles and their differences. This video is certainly a go to place for a good introduction. Just want to let you know it has helped me a lot and I am happy to share it. I wish Doug all the best of luck with his amazing shop
I am Soooo glad that you have posted this video! Now I have an answer to all those folks who keep asking difficult questions: Watch this video, Doug can answer questions that you didn't even know you had! :-). I did find it very interesting that Doug would chose the QV over the others, being the most versatile. To my mind, the others you get to go really fast, or have a lot of fun at the weekend, where as the QV is your 'daily commute' to work (in all weathers), plus doing the shopping on the way home. Mine now has 800 miles on it in about 3 months, nearly all going to work. The car stays at home :-). One thing I would add to Doug's comments on the QV: I am in the unusual situation of leaving for work at 04:00 hrs in the morning, so generally in the dark. One of the great things is the high level headlights, which are VERY good. Plenty of light on 'High Beam' for fast road riding, the low setting is still bright enough for cycle track use, and most importantly, they do not drain the battery in 'jig' time like the 'Cree' headlights do. I can go about a week on a charge at present, where as the light on my Trike fails after 2 days, (and that is on the lowest setting). Added to that, Velomobeil.nl has fitted a cable operated headlight adjuster, so if you load up the back, you can raise or lower the beam using a lever on the steering column. Very neat! Now we just need a Doug Davis in the UK!
Interesting about the headlights, Con. As for Doug's choice of the QV I think he is talking about if he could only have one. Clearly he is in no danger of that happening 😊 Thanks for watching and your thoughts as always.
Wonderful video! Mr Wizard just shipped me my DF and I am thrilled with the velo and his service! He will be helping immeasurably to grow the USA marketplace for velomobiles. Thank you Doug and thanks Gary for all that you do to support the recumbent world!
Really well done. I should be getting a Mango Sport direct from Drymer in a week or two. Can't wait! Happy to see a shop centered around Velos back home!!
Excellent reportage, thank you Gary and Doug! Everything is well explained, clearly, professional shooting....My preferred velomobile ? the Milan of course😉
Thank you so much Gary and Doug, this is a very informative video. When you've got time can you please do a video testing how much slower the Quattrovelo is compared to a regular velomobile like the WAW for the same peddling power input, e.g. 250 watts.
For the record... my WAW #335 is 9 feet long from tip to tail. It has a shorter N3 nose (no Flintstone holes), and the T3 tail that goes with rear suspension. It will not fit behind the front seats (8 feet) of a minivan unless you take off the nose and tail... even then, it's not an easy fit. You have to raise the rear on a ramp, wedge it between the front seat backs and use a lot of padding where it touches to avoid abrasions and fractures to the shell... just FYI.
We probably should have but we only had so much time. I'm sure you are aware that the velo carrying capacity is traditionally measured in cases of beer 😅
@@GarySolomon Like so? m.ua-cam.com/video/mPRX8k4nzmw/v-deo.html (btw the lady is Nicola Walde and the guy with the blue shirt is her boyfriend Daniel Fenn, creator of the DF).
An excellent video Gary. I'm sure many of your viewers will now have much food for thought ! I know it's only a minor detail but your interviewee was wildly out with his length measurements - all the velos were much longer than he told us. For example, the Quattrovelo is well over 9 feet, not 6 feet. The mango is not 5 feet, it's over 8 feet. I make this point because for some people, storage can be an important consideration. I look forward to your next review of velos and perhaps you could give us an idea of price too.
It's really not a minor detail, Jeremy. To be fair we were all pretty tired after a long weekend of setting up the store and hours of time in front of the camera. Nonetheless, the facts need to be corrected. I'll check with Doug and see if we can't get the corrected data and put it in the description section of the video. Thanks for the kind words and for pointing out our errors.
About the brakes: many autos have just the opposite, front brakes disc, rear brakes drums. I would think the reason for this is that disc brakes wear much more and need more maintenance than drum breaks
I am confused about the length of the Mango. If I go to the official mango spec sheet from the manufacturer, it says it is 245 cm, which is 8 feet. In the video he claims it is shorter than the others as a selling point. The DF is 257 cm, so it is only a small difference. I am looking for the shortest, lightest possible velo, because I want to be able to drive and park it in a big city, and be able to accelerate quickly due to all of the start stop traffic.
Wow!! those are some great machines👍 I've been thinking about having a look at an HPV fs20 trike to do some big touring so was watching a bit of youtube on those then watched "Velo-ads" and watched a meet up in London of some folks on Velomobiles two of who had come from Sweden by Velomobile and thought to myself "I wonder if I could tour in a Velomobile🤔... keep the rain and sun at bay and storage for tent etc" Then your video pops up😧😂 I'm getting the feeling something is saying get a trike but with a big cover over it😂 So after all my waffling what I wanted to ask is which is the best Velomobile to look at if I am thinking of using it for touring plus packing some shopping in also maybe a little bit of speed demon stuff😂? I live in the UK so we have very thin roads where everyone is trying to get through the same gap at the same time😧😂 We definitely should have upgraded the roads after the romans left but didn't happen😂... Great video👍 I've subscribed to see some more great stuff😎
Thank you, Nick! John Williams has ridden many different velomobiles in London as you probably know. He has a Quattrovelo on order but you need to actually ride some different models to decide for yourself. You should contact him about this 😊
Thanks Gary for your reply. I got in touch with John and will be visiting Bikefix in London in a week or two to try out a Scorpion. I am keen on trying a Quattro also but need to go to the Netherlands to try one. The only trouble is the waiting time for the Quattro which is a year, so I hear. As the UK is leaving the EU in October, or we may not be🤔but there again we might be😂 Who knows🙄😂 The exchange rate is up, down, down, up, more down than up at the moment🤔🙄 so the price for the Quattro is a guess at the moment. I doubt, if I decide to puts me cash down for a Quattro I'll get it before October though😩.. Anyway thanks again for your reply👍
Love the idea of a velomobile.... But our roads are so terrible up here in Washington and Oregon that I can't see they would last or be comfortable. I have a fat tire ebike and I nearly get bucked off on it. Seems like we need better roads to make a transition to more human powered transportation
hi guys.. Why velomobile doesn't have an effective shock absorber system? because ,Too little obstacles on the road slows down the vehicle small bumps, stones and asphalt disturbances are very felt
Hi Dirk-Not sure why Doug hasn't imported the Go One yet but I can tell you we have this beautiful velomobile covered on our Spezi 2019 video coming in the next week or two. We take a good look at the velo and interview the company's owner. Stay tuned...
I'll be damned! He's wearing a ROAM t-shirt. There were only 75 of them made for the tour. They ended up being short of shirts, cause everyone wanted one, so they had to only let the riders and people directly involved have one. I have two as I was one of the riders. Wonder how he got his? I don't remember him being on the tour but it was a long time ago and memory isn't that hot anymore.
I proudly wear my ROAM t-shirt all the time 😁 You are correct that I wasn't on the tour but I am lucky enough to call the guy who put it all together as my friend. We had dinner with Josef Janninga couple of years back in Germany while covering Spezi. He was kind enough to present one to me after having him on my webcast to share the story of this unique event. They might have made more shirts after the ride was over 😊
@@GarySolomon They well could have made more shirts, there certainly was a demand for them. I think Bill Bates, who was with Oregon Human Powered Vehicles Association, was the one who came up with the shirts. Josef is a pretty neat guy. Ask him about lost Larry some time.
@@GarySolomon tem maz é poucos amigão maz velomobil ingual a este aki esta longe de ter a doro ver a velocidadee muinto mais é uma makina encrivél parabens amigão manda mais vidios
Not true at all. There may be some states or localities that don't include 4 wheeled HPVs under their definition of "Bikes" but certainly not all. They are specifically allowed here in Ohio for example.
In my State (Alabama) a four wheel bicycle is classified as a pedal car and as such is not street legal. I have a 1973 PPV People Powered Vehicle and have been stopped a couple of times by Police to check if it was a three wheeler or four. From the front it obvious but from the back it's not. These laws date back to the turn of the century when adult pedal cars were a thing. Henry Ford had a hand outlawing pedal cars.
So it doesn't have independent rear suspension, but a single axle instead? That's not good engineering if that's the case. It's not very clear in this video.
Thank you Gary and Doug.
What a fantastic overview of velomobiles and their differences. This video is certainly a go to place for a good introduction. Just want to let you know it has helped me a lot and I am happy to share it. I wish Doug all the best of luck with his amazing shop
Hi John-I'm very happy to hear you found this video helpful. Thanks for watching!
I am Soooo glad that you have posted this video! Now I have an answer to all those folks who keep asking difficult questions: Watch this video, Doug can answer questions that you didn't even know you had! :-).
I did find it very interesting that Doug would chose the QV over the others, being the most versatile. To my mind, the others you get to go really fast, or have a lot of fun at the weekend, where as the QV is your 'daily commute' to work (in all weathers), plus doing the shopping on the way home. Mine now has 800 miles on it in about 3 months, nearly all going to work. The car stays at home :-).
One thing I would add to Doug's comments on the QV: I am in the unusual situation of leaving for work at 04:00 hrs in the morning, so generally in the dark. One of the great things is the high level headlights, which are VERY good. Plenty of light on 'High Beam' for fast road riding, the low setting is still bright enough for cycle track use, and most importantly, they do not drain the battery in 'jig' time like the 'Cree' headlights do. I can go about a week on a charge at present, where as the light on my Trike fails after 2 days, (and that is on the lowest setting). Added to that, Velomobeil.nl has fitted a cable operated headlight adjuster, so if you load up the back, you can raise or lower the beam using a lever on the steering column. Very neat!
Now we just need a Doug Davis in the UK!
Interesting about the headlights, Con. As for Doug's choice of the QV I think he is talking about if he could only have one. Clearly he is in no danger of that happening 😊 Thanks for watching and your thoughts as always.
Wonderful video! Mr Wizard just shipped me my DF and I am thrilled with the velo and his service! He will be helping immeasurably to grow the USA marketplace for velomobiles. Thank you Doug and thanks Gary for all that you do to support the recumbent world!
I saw that you got your DF, Chazz😁 Ride well and ride far!
Thanks, @@GarySolomon !
16:08 Mulsanne from France is the best with wide open entry. Flevobike Orca from Holland is the same but unfortunately they don't produce it anymore.
Thats a super overview Gary, Doug, thanks
Thanks for watching, Sean! I'm glad you got something valuable from this😊
Very nice video,
I am begining to build a recumbent bicycle with a streamliner body.
Really well done. I should be getting a Mango Sport direct from Drymer in a week or two. Can't wait! Happy to see a shop centered around Velos back home!!
Have fun with the Mango and thanks for watching!
Really good visuals. thanks!
Loved it, thanks Gary and Doug. And good luck Doug with the new business venture.
So great to have support from the "other side of the pond." 😉 If you ever get over to this side we'll plan a visit together, John!
I was just saying that we need a 'Doug Davis' in the UK to provide a 'showroom' for Velo's.
How about it John? LOL ;-).
@@coniow that's funny as I was only speaking to Richard Papa about it the other day.
@@GarySolomon sounds great, hopefully one day I'll get there.
Excellent reportage, thank you Gary and Doug! Everything is well explained, clearly, professional shooting....My preferred velomobile ? the Milan of course😉
Thanks for those kind words, Daniele😊 The Milan does seem to be the sentimental favorite!
Very informative videos . Outstanding work! thank you very much!
Thank you, Nil!
Thank you so much Gary and Doug, this is a very informative video. When you've got time can you please do a video testing how much slower the Quattrovelo is compared to a regular velomobile like the WAW for the same peddling power input, e.g. 250 watts.
Thanks for watching, Sporty know! I'll let Doug respond to your request ☺️
I feel a road trip coming on.
For the record... my WAW #335 is 9 feet long from tip to tail. It has a shorter N3 nose (no Flintstone holes), and the T3 tail that goes with rear suspension. It will not fit behind the front seats (8 feet) of a minivan unless you take off the nose and tail... even then, it's not an easy fit. You have to raise the rear on a ramp, wedge it between the front seat backs and use a lot of padding where it touches to avoid abrasions and fractures to the shell... just FYI.
Arent u supposed to ride a velo? Why are u putting it in a van? Hahahah
@@lolouro2266
You are totally correct... But it's 9 feet and change in length... Not 6 or 7 feet.
Great overview on some of the mainstream VM's. What you might want to show aswell is the luggage space on the df/waw/milan ^^
We probably should have but we only had so much time. I'm sure you are aware that the velo carrying capacity is traditionally measured in cases of beer 😅
@@GarySolomon 😂 from that point of view the QV is my favourite
@@GarySolomon I'll second that request for more details about cargo/luggage space. It's so important when running errands.
@@GarySolomon Like so? m.ua-cam.com/video/mPRX8k4nzmw/v-deo.html (btw the lady is Nicola Walde and the guy with the blue shirt is her boyfriend Daniel Fenn, creator of the DF).
Yes, I saw this video when Josef first published it and loved it!
That Mulsanne is quite a looker!
Awesome video. Thank you!
An excellent video Gary. I'm sure many of your viewers will now have much food for thought ! I know it's only a minor detail but your interviewee was wildly out with his length measurements - all the velos were much longer than he told us. For example, the Quattrovelo is well over 9 feet, not 6 feet. The mango is not 5 feet, it's over 8 feet. I make this point because for some people, storage can be an important consideration. I look forward to your next review of velos and perhaps you could give us an idea of price too.
It's really not a minor detail, Jeremy. To be fair we were all pretty tired after a long weekend of setting up the store and hours of time in front of the camera. Nonetheless, the facts need to be corrected. I'll check with Doug and see if we can't get the corrected data and put it in the description section of the video. Thanks for the kind words and for pointing out our errors.
About the brakes: many autos have just the opposite, front brakes disc, rear brakes drums. I would think the reason for this is that disc brakes wear much more and need more maintenance than drum breaks
Erratum: it is velomobiel.nl instead of velomobile.nl
I am confused about the length of the Mango. If I go to the official mango spec sheet from the manufacturer, it says it is 245 cm, which is 8 feet. In the video he claims it is shorter than the others as a selling point. The DF is 257 cm, so it is only a small difference. I am looking for the shortest, lightest possible velo, because I want to be able to drive and park it in a big city, and be able to accelerate quickly due to all of the start stop traffic.
Notified Doug. He should respond here in a bit...
Wow!! those are some great machines👍 I've been thinking about having a look at an HPV fs20 trike to do some big touring so was watching a bit of youtube on those then watched "Velo-ads" and watched a meet up in London of some folks on Velomobiles two of who had come from Sweden by Velomobile and thought to myself "I wonder if I could tour in a Velomobile🤔... keep the rain and sun at bay and storage for tent etc" Then your video pops up😧😂 I'm getting the feeling something is saying get a trike but with a big cover over it😂
So after all my waffling what I wanted to ask is which is the best Velomobile to look at if I am thinking of using it for touring plus packing some shopping in also maybe a little bit of speed demon stuff😂? I live in the UK so we have very thin roads where everyone is trying to get through the same gap at the same time😧😂 We definitely should have upgraded the roads after the romans left but didn't happen😂... Great video👍 I've subscribed to see some more great stuff😎
Thank you, Nick! John Williams has ridden many different velomobiles in London as you probably know. He has a Quattrovelo on order but you need to actually ride some different models to decide for yourself. You should contact him about this 😊
Thanks Gary for your reply. I got in touch with John and will be visiting Bikefix in London in a week or two to try out a Scorpion. I am keen on trying a Quattro also but need to go to the Netherlands to try one. The only trouble is the waiting time for the Quattro which is a year, so I hear. As the UK is leaving the EU in October, or we may not be🤔but there again we might be😂 Who knows🙄😂 The exchange rate is up, down, down, up, more down than up at the moment🤔🙄 so the price for the Quattro is a guess at the moment. I doubt, if I decide to puts me cash down for a Quattro I'll get it before October though😩.. Anyway thanks again for your reply👍
Love the idea of a velomobile.... But our roads are so terrible up here in Washington and Oregon that I can't see they would last or be comfortable. I have a fat tire ebike and I nearly get bucked off on it.
Seems like we need better roads to make a transition to more human powered transportation
hi guys..
Why velomobile doesn't have an effective shock absorber system?
because ,Too little obstacles on the road slows down the vehicle
small bumps, stones and asphalt disturbances are very felt
where is he located? I have a Rotovelo I might upgrade from later.
Bicycle Evolution is in Plano, Texas.
I'm missing the Go One in all these video's.
Hi Dirk-Not sure why Doug hasn't imported the Go One yet but I can tell you we have this beautiful velomobile covered on our Spezi 2019 video coming in the next week or two. We take a good look at the velo and interview the company's owner. Stay tuned...
I'll be damned! He's wearing a ROAM t-shirt. There were only 75 of them made for the tour. They ended up being short of shirts, cause everyone wanted one, so they had to only let the riders and people directly involved have one. I have two as I was one of the riders. Wonder how he got his? I don't remember him being on the tour but it was a long time ago and memory isn't that hot anymore.
I proudly wear my ROAM t-shirt all the time 😁 You are correct that I wasn't on the tour but I am lucky enough to call the guy who put it all together as my friend. We had dinner with Josef Janninga couple of years back in Germany while covering Spezi. He was kind enough to present one to me after having him on my webcast to share the story of this unique event. They might have made more shirts after the ride was over 😊
@@GarySolomon They well could have made more shirts, there certainly was a demand for them. I think Bill Bates, who was with Oregon Human Powered Vehicles Association, was the one who came up with the shirts. Josef is a pretty neat guy. Ask him about lost Larry some time.
mais um escrito aki no brasil eslonge de ter um deste velomobil é top de mais
Obrigado por assistir. Adoramos nossos pilotos reclinados no Brasil!
@@GarySolomon tem maz é poucos amigão maz velomobil ingual a este aki esta longe de ter a doro ver a velocidadee muinto mais é uma makina encrivél parabens amigão manda mais vidios
Which of the brands shown can have e-assist added?
all of them really you just have to go with Mid drive system's
Thanks-@@jaylord55
I like the DF I am a big guy that access looks easier to get in and out of
Actually, for a big guy like you or I……DF is impossible to get into.
I like recumbent trikes, but do these velo mobile's go off road.
Not really🫣
Well that's ghey! Then id be better off getting a capable 4x4 trike from Utah trikes then
Velomobiles are just too expensive for anyone but a very dedicated rider.
any clue where the one from Canada is located
It's in BC, just East of Vancouver.
I thought four wheel “HPVs” were illegal in North America?
Not true at all. There may be some states or localities that don't include 4 wheeled HPVs under their definition of "Bikes" but certainly not all. They are specifically allowed here in Ohio for example.
I think they are illegal if they have electricity to operate the vehicle. As long as it's human powered, they should be legal in every state.
In my State (Alabama) a four wheel bicycle is classified as a pedal car and as such is not street legal. I have a 1973 PPV People Powered Vehicle and have been stopped a couple of times by Police to check if it was a three wheeler or four. From the front it obvious but from the back it's not. These laws date back to the turn of the century when adult pedal cars were a thing. Henry Ford had a hand outlawing pedal cars.
@@n4zou Wow!! I didn't know this. That law must me changed!
It sure sounds like it's time to update these laws.
Those flashing lights have got to be illegal.
I'm going to buy a quattrovelo, give me a little time and you'll be hearing from me.
I liked the French banana.
If you are over 20 inches at the shoulders you won't fit in any of them. I know because I drove 1300 mile to find out
So it doesn't have independent rear suspension, but a single axle instead? That's not good engineering if that's the case. It's not very clear in this video.
Tradusir a español
Excelente lo bueno es que ya existe Amazon en México.
Velomobile is like a full body helmet I have to remember it for the police what is that It's a bicycle with full body helmet
That's not mister wizard. I grew up watching mister wizard and that is definitely not him.
You must be talking about the other Mr. Wizard😉 Don Herbert was a hero of mine as a kid. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Herbert