FIX a worn out key EASY
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- Door, Padlock, Ignition won't unlock with your worn out key? No problem and no more jiggling and wiggling..
Stuff I used in the video:
BASIC soldering iron DIRT CHEAP: amzn.to/3ZLEstR
Weller Soldering Gun in Video: amzn.to/3mNxEgx
ACID paste flux metal repair/plumbing: amzn.to/3TiN34G
KEY MACHINES so much fun: amzn.to/3JeEGm9
After Thoughts about the Video: I've done this to a dozen keys over the years and never found one I couldn't at least make better. The key can be used for months/hundreds of times. However the solder(lead/tin) is softer and wears quickly. You can also repair a broken key good enough to get a copy made.
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I'm a tool guy, so I come here for the tools and all that cool stuff that I love to see.. but the icing on the cake is the dog.
That's a really intelligent dog and you two have a great relationship.
You always make the most useful videos at the most needed times lol! Thanks for continuing to make awesome content over the many years. UA-cam needs more creators like you.
Thanks.
Name of this channel should be Moe knows everything! You never cease to amaze me lol!
Thanks Man
I mostly just come here for the cool dog footage.
Sometimes while I'm here i learn stuff.
A good reason why we should always keep a new key for every lock in a box and label each key so we know what it goes to. That way we can always have another key made easily.
A neighbor had trouble with a front door lock. I took it off and they took it to a locksmith who changed the tumblers to fit the keys. Think it was in the $12 -14 range.
Still good to know your method, it might very well be useful sometime,
TownHouse owner got locked out due to a bad lock /old key.
I was sent to replace it on my way home.
I removed the old lock cylinder quick (&EZ) with a framing hammer 🔨 then opened the bolt with a screwdriver.
I replaced the deadbolt and was gone in ~5 minutes.
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Almost every time there’s a dog involved they steel the show😎 great information.
Saludos from Mexico
True.
That's a great skill to have tucked up your sleeve 👍 Glad to see Ginger has plenty of toys and is having fun with them 🐶
The issue is the lost toys out the window as were driving down the road/freeway. She'll hold them for a while and randomly just drop them. So now only super rough and crappy tennis balls go in the vehicles.
@@sixtyfiveford lol, good plan😄
Best diy channel on the tube! You rock Moe!
You rock!
My lone superpower is picking locks, but if you only have one it's a pretty cool one to have. I lost my house keys like a year ago and never even bothered to dig out my spares. When someone observes, it blows their minds (although in reality, only the swiftness requires skill. Any lock from Home Depot could be picked by any 6 year old within 5 minutes with instruction)
Especially with a pick gun, which is what most locksmiths use anyway. It's similar to a bump key, but more "automated" and attempts to rattle the pins into the right position while you apply tension. That said, I had a regular deadbolt lock on my front door, and had given my keys to someone that was supposed to go get one thing, and ended up taking the keys with them on a flight instead of returning them. I watched the locksmith struggle with the pick gun for a solid 45 minutes before he got it open - so sometimes even a regular low security lock can be tricky (or the locksmith was particularly incompetent)
Former Locksmith here. I have made a ton of keys with code clippers, code cutting machines, and hand filing using a micrometer and depth & spacing specs. I never made one with a soldering iron but, it really has me thinking this would be a viable means for impressioning a lock. I always preferred a key clipper and file for this job. Give Ginger a hug for me.
I do own a set of Curtis key clippers. Definitely the way to go.
You have more patience than me I am getting out my Master Key aka 3 foot bolt cutter🤓 🔒🔑🔐
Now that's the ultimate master key.
Another cool SFF hack! Harris Stay Brite 8 Tin solder with 6% silver content is more abrasion resistant than most older common tin/lead solders and will provide a longer lasting result. It generally wets in better with an acid flux like Harris Stay Clean - however, because it is an acid flux (small percent of hydrochloric acid), you need to wash and neutralize the soldered part before use. I use this combo all the time for various assemblies and repairs where silver solder or TIG brazing is not required or not desired due to heat affects.
Silver solder is good stuff especially when it higher content like that. I just looked it up and it's pushing nearly $80 for a roll. Ouch, but when you need the strength.
Hey Moe. I thought maybe you kept your good booze locked in that box but I didn't know it was something more important like Gingers toys. Thanks for posting.
Ginger tells me there's nothing more valuable than frisbees.
Many times, the key will have a row of numbers on it. This represents the bidding on the key, which you can use to directly measure the height of your gullies with a pair of calipers or just make a new key from scratch by marking it out on a blank.
True, but most of the time when the key is worn down that far the sides and any numbers are long gone. I have a professional key nipper, but a lot of times the tumblers in the lock are worn a little as well and you can't build those up. So you're actually making a larger key than it originally came with.
Solder to fix up a key. I would have never thought of that!
Just enough Jerry Rigging to get the job done.
¡¡¡Biff Tannen is FURIOUS at this one weird key hack!!!!
I hope you realise that you have the best no nonsense channel on UA-cam, do you?
Atleast to me it is.
Hey thanks
Had to watch this one again
Worked good. I had my doubts about the solder bonding but it held up good. I always have spares to all my locks and when I use a spare I replace it with another. My issue is I don’t label them🤨
Previously I have just bought key blanks online for 2 bucks, put the both in the vise, lifted the old one up a hair and cut the shape onto the new key with a coping saw and files.
Absolutely
nice, I have a door lock on my 75 Dodge van doing that when it used to work, but it works in the passenger door
O M G !!! I haven't seen a Datsun key since 1980 when I traded my 1972 Datsun extra cab pickup for a 1974 Plymouth Duster...
I don't think they made it past the mid 80's and can't remember the last time I saw a Datsun in person.
@sixtyfiveford I've seen one about 60 miles away from 36420 in a small satellite town close to Ariton Abalama,and I've seen a red Datsun space cab circa my year truck sitting out behind a falling down barn/shed but haven't been able to make contact with the owners even though I've been trying for several years... Guess "they're gonna fix it up someday"...😐
When I first start having troubles I get a new copy made right off. This is way out of my job description. And Ginger must be taking night courses. BLESSINGS!
Absolutely.
Wow man just in time, I was about break the lock and buy a new one, thanks
Interesting, good to know
Nice job with the key, but we need a little more Ginger. 👍
The darn wind noise killed the closing scene.
Me being a locksmith we would just mic the old key and figure out the original bitting (depth) and cut it by code. IRL however this doesn't always work either. Worn key also mean worn pins. Now you have made a factory spec key to a worn lock which I have seen too many times will not work either. Sometimes the lock also has to be rekeyed. Old school guys like me used to do what's called impressioning. We would file a key by hand to fit the worn out lock. That is a very lost skill. Once the filed down key works you copy that onto a new blank and you have a good working key basically custom fit for that lock. I only do automotive now with programmers and CNC key machines. Very different skill set and a lot more in expenses but also profit. I feel bad for my customers who lose their keys but I tell them I didn't make the car or expensive transponder fobs/keys and I didn't lose your keys.
For all you people with older cars with one key get a duplicate made while it's much cheaper. If you have push to start the price is not really going to be cheaper as we still have to go through the same process. A blade key will be cheaper since we don't have to pull a lock or pay for a key code. It still has to be programmed though.
Question, wouldn't the keyway and just all the tolerances in general be worn to the point that making a hand filed key would be less desirable in virtually every single way compared to just replacing, say, at minimum pins at maximum plug? Was that more of a situation where you want to keep the original hardware? OR maybe back when everything wasn't such cheap garbage that you just threw it away and bought another Chinese part?
Trying to understand if there are benefits worth trying to attempt this skill. NOT monetary benefits, mind you, skill set benefits.
@@og-pretty I left some info out. I wouldn't do this on a house lock. This was for lost keys on a car when we couldn't obtain a key code or a lock was changed and the original key code didn't work on the changed lock. It saves having to remove a lock which is not always easy in a car without a working key and taking the lock apart.
@@scotts4125 okay yeah that makes complete and total sense immediately
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LOL
BOLT CUTTERS AND A NEW LOCK IS THE WAY WE DO IT. GOT TO GET US ONE OF THOSE OLD FASHION KEY MAKING MACHINES ON EBAY. I GUESS.
Nice repair.
Stay well, Joe Z
Thanks, you too!
Hi Moe , A Another Great Video . Very Useful Thanks. Well Done 👍.
Thanks 👍
Always a great day when sixtyfiveford puts out a video .
Hey Thanks.
Great Video,as always.
Thanks.
Thanks again!
Great video,everyone has run into this problem before. Great fix.
Thanks for watching
Another great video thanks for sharing again 👍🤝
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Gret vid 65....think about how many times I would have done that for sure......thsnkd
Great video!!
Where did you get the key cutting machine?
I saw it at an estate auction and had to have it. It came with 3x the blanks you saw in the video(in boxes).
@@sixtyfiveford just wanted to also thank you for your videos. I have built a gas garage heater from a free dryer. Been using it for 2 years and no problems.
I also have been rebuilding my 18v battery packs for ryobi tools. Funny thing is people throw the batteries in recycling but most of the ones I have found work just fine.
Thank you again for your knowledge and teaching.
Gary in Idaho
@@garyrichards6041 Awesome. I've accumulated so many Ryobi packs I don't know what to do with them. I'm in the same boat and a good number didn't need any cells replaced.
@@sixtyfiveford 🔋
I use extra battery packs like that when I go on off-grid fishing trips, for up to a week or two.
I'll charge them at home and then keep them charged up on my solar panels while fishing 🎣 if it's sunny I can run my 12V fridge and charge 🔋 overcast cloudy days I just keep the fridge cool, on solar and use battery power for everything else.
Bored Fish & Game warden asked me about them. Once I explained he agreed it was a good idea. 💡
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When I get a new lock, I always have at least 1-3 key copies made, and one of the unused originals put in a safe place and labeled. One thing that will greatly extend the life of your lock is to lube it about every 3 months. Here it rains a lot and so I often do it every 1-2 months. Wash our the lock with new lube (Removes dust) like Break Free and soak it good. My locks have lasted almost 20 years now, with daily use. Also lubing the lock often helps keeps out water and ice from clogging the keyway.
If you need the lock repinned due to worn out pins, take the new key copy with you. Generally I destroy the old keys (as they wear out ) when I repin a lock.
Wow! You have a key cutter?! I always had to cut my new rekeys by hand with my Dremel. One pin at a time until, pin by pin, the lock worked smoothly. I bought a new canopy lock for my F150 because one was damaged. I just grabbed a new lock since I planned on keying it to match anyway ( uh, um, practice? ). As I was wanting to match the lock to my key, I inserted the key and ( much to my consternation ) turned the key. So I rekeyed both locks, but just one pin. That way I could keep my old key. I later found out they're all keyed the same.
I've only had it about a year and have filed many blanks. Problem with owning a key machine is it only takes 30 minutes of owning it to make every key you'll need for years.
@@sixtyfiveford Try a Dremel, it'll take a little longer. More fun!
I file solder for other reasons all the time. We should tell everyone to be mindful of the dust, especially if they have pets, since most solder is made with lead.
If it is concerning you can always use lead free solder.
Another genius idea! I wonder if brazing instead of soldering would create a permanent fix? Maybe for some oddball key that is hard to find a suitable blank for.
I've used the solder for months and it will wear away. The issue with brazing is bronze is so close to the melting temp of brass, it's likely you'll end up with a key puddle. That's why I just solder it until it works good and make a new copy.
Cool .
hey i got a tip for ya. before you use acid flux, replace that terrible 'tip' on that soldering gun with a 10AWG or 12AWG wire in a U shape. really fast heatup. and someone else wont ruin their tip.
That's exactly what's in there right now
What he neglected to tell yall is that the pins make marks on the soft solder and become the guides to where one needs to file and filing in small increments works whereas taking huge chunks out usually negates the solder build up... a tiny bit will do ya eve if ya hafta repeat 2or 7 times... Once perfected go have a new key cut.. easy peasey..
MM77 Approved 👍🏼👍🏼………………………..Dude, is there ANYTHING you can’t do!!!
Just enough Jerry Rigging to get the job done.
a blank, a file, the original, and the lock. Nothing more is needed. what you teach is patience.
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Have that set someplace wasnt to good at that
Lol
THE SOLDER IS MOSTLY LEAD!! THIS WILL WEAR FAST AND FOWL THE LOCK TOO.
That's why he only used it to make a copy... Just in case you missed that.
SOMEONE SHOULD WATCH THE WHOLE VIDEO 🤦
SO MUCH YELLING... LOL.
Nice
Key to a dogs hart. 👍🐝🌞
Very nice. Where did you get all those key blanks? And the oldschool key cutting machine?
I bought the entire setup from an estate auction/ retiring auto shop. I have nearly 3x the blanks shown still in boxes.
@@sixtyfiveford Sweet, nice find!
Wondering what you could make with an old blender? I have a really nice Kitchenaid blender.
Can't think of anything off the top of my head.
Of course you'd have your own key cutting machine 🤣
Absolutely. I saw it at an estate auction and I had to have it.
could you just build up or shim the back side (feeler gauge maybe) , clamp it in key cutter and make one that works ? also , the ignition key falls on the floor while i'm driving my 73 f100 . is it the peaks that are supposed to prevent this ?
Yes, the little peaks are supposed to hold the key in especially on keys that are tapered towards the tip. My 78 has a key that is bulbous towards the end so even when worn it still stays in. However my 96 Ford is tapered and the key falls right out.
The issue with feeler gauge is it's usually just the first two (out of 4-6 roughly) pins that are worn. And those are tapered.
@@sixtyfiveford thanks .
Datsun....there's a name I haven't heard in a while.
I can't even remember the last time I saw one in person.
What if the key isn't brass? Or are they all made of brass
99% are brass and the rest are aluminum. Not much you can do with those.
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LMAO can't believe you have a key machine. Actually totally believable
Yeah, I saw it at an estate auction and I had to have it.
Jiggle jiggle jiggle, what is the special tool? Ingenuity?😉🤨
Thanks.
@@sixtyfiveford I still use the snothrower idea that you gave me.
We should probably get together sometimes, Mr.
Key - osk i see what you did there
I'm just here to see Ginger...
Aren't we all.
I have cut 1000s of keys on that machine $5 each for someone else a couple decades ago
We charge 25$ at my shop to cut you a new original on our computerized machine.
Lol EASY! Buy a key grinder.....
While you were at Home Depot just buy a new lock and it has two new keys.
That sounds boring.
@@sixtyfiveford Your's sounds like More WORK! lol
Hey man, could you do a video on old stuck truck locks (like 2000 era) and all that goes along with it? I used to have graphite powder on stand by and it always did the trick after winter but they don't make the powder anymore, just the glittery crap 🙄 Any tricks up your sleeve for that topic?
I know what you mean about graphite and have had the same issue with the flaky little discs/glitter. I have a block of graphite and have sanded/filed off the dust for lubricant a few times. You really need the little tube/bottle to dispense it though. I recall years ago doing the same with a carpenters pencil, but almost just drawing on the part I needed lubed(it worked). I have found the spray dry lube to work well. The dry lube spray I used last was the PB Blaster brand amzn.to/3FsB2Um but also used the WD brand with good results. The seam kind of pricey though for what it is.
@@sixtyfiveford hey thanks for the reply. That's a good idea, I guess I could make the powder and cut open the squeeze bottle, pour the crappy stuff out and put the powder in and reseal the container. I've tried the PB spray to no avail, just got liquid graphite everywhere haha. Probably just need to bite the bullet and take the door apart ans see what's goingon in there. Thanks again 👍
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