+07 shiro It is indeed one of the most haunting scenes I've ever seen in an anime. Generally, NGE is full of psychological/philosophical references that could be analysed in depth.
It also explained why Shinji was chocking Asuka in the end or other things what made it even better when you watched it the second time. But it's sad that they didn't have the budget to bring the message of this not very great made scene better to the viewers. But still this was such a good scene.
I think too, it was done on purpose. Because, really, to deliver a message you don't necessarily need a high budget, just enough resources so you can elaborate efficiently. Plus, imo, I think that highlighting the simplicity of the animation at this point (simple drawn lines that remind a child's sketchbook) kinda isolates the message from all of fancy anime effects; so it gets even more powerful and truly fits the core idea behind the show.
Yeah, it's pretty much because you understand it better and better as you grow older. For you that might already be obvious, but for others is quite the opposite, for the same reason I explained just now.
modern day animes cannot compare to the beautiful art of animes like this people call this lazy but honestly I think that they did the last 2 episodes perfectly the lack of animation kinda just fits the episodes
it was ultimately his father that gave him a restriction and something to actually do in life that lead to his growth - making him an EVA pilot. is it fucked up? yes. but it was important
i dont get why people hate this ending it had such a big impact in me, this episode and the episode 25 made me reflect about myself... shinji is a really relatable character, a teen that fells like shit because of the things that he did in the past and cause he fells like everybody hates him, this was his moment of realization this moment of finally solving the puzzle in his mind and starting to love himself also the artistic and minimalistic way that the episode is animated is a metaphor for the mind and I think the stylistic chose was successful in portraying the message And thats why I love this ending, theres no right way to look at it, because everyone has a different perspective and thats the beauty of it (Thanks for reading this)
People like to complain that Evangelion has poor animation and low budget. People like to make fun of the last 2 episodes for having less color and animation but I still think it's beautiful, it's a true art piece from the heart. Now I've tried to draw and I've tired to animate things and I know what hard work go's into it. I can appreciate all the subtle animation through out the series. The people that knock eva for it's animation probably don't even know how to draw.
Xtremis Flash Well some people get all fussy about some long still shots. Personally I think the animation is pretty good especially during the mech fights.
@@drascofficial1810 Well any how I can admit that the animation can be pretty bad but the story telling and monologues is what really sells the show for me. But the artwork and detail that goes into is good. Like if you watch shows like berserk that has some poor animation and stills but they are detailed and look cool.
I thought a lot about this scene when I first watched it a couple years back. I'm an American, and in my country, we're always talking about freedom, but we don't ask ourselves what that means. What are we free to do? Who are we free to be? In complete isolation, there are theoretically no restrictions on our freedom, but we're stuck empty inside. Is that really freedom? Our beliefs, opinions, ideals- everything that makes us who we are- is derived from our interaction with others and the outside world. This episode made me realize that.
Joshua Fagan With free will, you can pull yourself up while others push you down. Some start lower than others, some cant climb at all. A true land of the free is obviously impossible when *anything* exists, the founding father know that. Freedom has a cost, like a subscription. If you want freedom in America, there are chains you still have to be bound to. “The price of freedom is eternal vigilance”- Thomas Jefferson. I think this relates to the scene when Shinji is just a floating mass in nothingness, where he is uncertain at all times. Benjamin Franklin says there is “essential liberty”, implying that non-essential liberties exist. Anyways, I do believe that America’s freedom talk is just a banner to rally under when the Americans were fighting for independence, and was a damn good banner at that.
There was no need to discuss the meaning of freedom for them. Thanks to that, the founding fathers and their descendants (i.e; establishments) have gained fame and wealth very much. But I don’t tell like commoners have got nothing more than freedom. It’s too early to see.
I enjoy the TV ending for what it is, but it's a pretty jarring shift to go from the end of Episode 24 straight into Instrumentality. And though I do believe the message the ending was trying to send was made in earnest, I think it's a little too naive in how its communicated
just shows you how much genuine love went into this show. the animators, even on a low budget, put everything into making this scene something wonderful to watch
I remember watching this back in 7th grade on adult swim and some friends telling me it was lame and boring. My sister managed to Tvo it for me and said it was really good and interesting. Guess who isn’t friends with those people but even closer to their sister now.
Exactly. IMO it is an anime that you just have to return from time to time and re-discover hidden elements. That's how genius Hideaki Anno (its mangaka) is.
@@Mutterschwein I have watched the 26 episodes, End of evangelion and the 3 rebuild films and I feel a bit depressed and nostalgic, like Anno created a beautiful universe and at the end destroy it 😭 I want more Shinji, Asuka and Misato storys 😑
As an aspiring animator, I think I truly understand the beauty of episodes 25 and 26. The reason they used such low budget animation (at least the in canon reason) is to portray a message. They’re trying to say that without all the assets of an animation, there is no animation. It’s a metaphor for the world. Without people, without laws, without physics, etc there isn’t a world. This is why the final scene is full animation again. Because the Human Instrumentality Project was completed, and all of the assets of the animation, all of the assets of the world, were in place. That’s my interpretation, I’d love to hear your thoughts
I remember watching this very same scene when I was 15, and I watched the whole series again this year, im 18 now, it made a lot of sense all of a sudden.
This scene contains an interesting statment on modern art. The post-modernist ideal of art accentuates that art doesn't have to be "good" or even meaningful to be art, rather it simply needs to be created witht he intent of creating art. In this way, it tries to make as free the artist's potential as possible. Yet Anno rejects this, arguing that the restrictions of artistic freedoms actually what breed true meaning.
Original Memetics Without the establishment of "limitations", only uncertainty exists. Kant in his theoretical critique of reason, makes the point of acknowledging the boundaries of space and time, granting us the ability to obtain an understanding of our reality, despite the finite capacity of humans to grasp the incomprehensibility of the universe. Clearly, the same process of delineating the boundaries between knowledge and uncertainty are part of what this scene addresses.
🤔, it can be true what you are saying. But I think it’s really an explanation of existence through Structuralism, in opposition to Sartre’s Existentialism.
Greatest ending ever! I don't care what smarks say. This was literally the fingerpoke of doom and dumb smarks fell for it and they didn't see it coming. The booker's masterplan was to convey that living, experiencing life, believing in yourself and making connections with people is a much more important message to send across to children than some make believe unrealistic cartoon about robots fighting. The premise of the show was to help people understand that life is worth living. Robots fighting wasn't the point and I like how the ending fooled the fans. Perfect ending ever! Evangelion got me through my depression and this scene alone made my life worth living!
Probably the best 3 minutes in the history of animation. The last few episodes NGE went over my head the first time I watched through them, but a couple days later I watched them again and got it. This scene, till the end of the final congratulations scene, just left me in tears.
I was genuinely surprised to hear that people initially didn’t like the show’s ending. It was easily the best part of the show for me. Idc about giant robots fighting & the slice of life stuff was fine, but i just can’t get enough of shows that get really heady & reference stuff like Jung
same, it gave me a whole different perspective on my understanding of my reality, where I can recognize myself as a unique human being. might have not been the best idea to watch eva that young tho lol
I watched this in 2020 when I was 13, didn't completely appreciate it then, thought it was a great show but missed most of the subtext because I was going through puberty and Shinji-kun was my queer awakening so naturally I was just focused on how sexy he was, now a days, shit hits hard, I tear up watching and merely reading about it now, shit even *thinking* about it.
@@internetual7350 Same for me with the gay awakening part… it was one of the first times I’ve seen a non-hetero protagonist portrayed with sympathy and respect.
@@OmegaLogos Aw that's adorable! For me, Shinji was the first non-hetero character I'd seen, so along with him awakening my true self, he and Evangelion as a whole mean a whole lot to me.
The funny thing is that this scene is actually sound game design advice. If you give players too much freedom, they flounder. It's restrictions that make for interesting engagement. By showing someone what they can't do, you make them wonder what theu CAN do.
I might not be the only one. I think Evangelion is a one big mirror. I do believe that the religious symbolisms are there because it looks cool, just like Anno said. But this, this is different, it makes us question, and I love that.
Anno has a reputation of lying, 99% chance he said that just to make the controversy surrounding the religious imagery die. You cannot honestly tell me the show would be the same if you removed all religious references.
In this anime is just too much religious reference made with deph to think it "just because it's looks cool". Even this scene reminds of some concepts in various religions, including some mystics of the abrahamic religions.
I hate to be one of those "2deep4u" but in this case, it really was for most people. People don't like to be confronted with their own weak, pathetic nature. Anime watchers don't like to be called out for their stunted emotional growth, and so they rejected it, called it pretentious. Anno broke a big unwritten rule with this and EoE. And that is 'don't make the audience feel bad about themselves'. But it's like fighting an addiction. For a lot of people, agknowleging one's immaturity and insecurities can open the way for wonderful personal growth. I know that's how it made me feel when I watched this for the first time.
I would honestly put this up there with any scene from any piece of cinema ever. This is a masterful exploration of philosophy, character, and humanity. Anyone who skips 25/26 doesn't deserve to watch EoE.
Becoming self aware and choosing empathy is the single act of god. We all know exactly how it feels to be conscious and it’s what connects us. The simplicity of it and the universalness and oneness of it is deeply spiritual and scientific and psychological at the same time. Questioning what it truly means to be content leads us down the same path. the answers really are in our own consciousness while also being shown to us constantly through others. It’s an epiphany and it’s so comforting to know we’ve already been holding the answers
this makes me cry, not a lot, just misty eyed. no matter how many times I see it the last few chapters of evangelion will always be one of, if not the most moving pieces of art I have ever seen, and the most personally important and impactful to me. I'm the only person I know who has seen this show, and I feel like my friends all look at me a little funny when I talk about it, but they just don't know how powerful this piece of media truly is.
Even though I much preferred the way End of Evangelion ended the series, I thought that this ending was quite charming, and you could see how the final 4th wall breaking sequence in EoE is derivative of this
Far and away some of the best animation, coolest, and most visually interesting animation I've seen in any anime. I always revisit this every once in a while.
The best way to summarize Evangelion is by a sentence of dialogue said in the show “The only person who can sympathize with you and understand you is you. So, be good to yourself.” The anime had its robot fights, biblical references, and a mind fuck of an ending but it’s message was there. The show at its heart was about you accepting the highs and lows of life; the pain and happiness that comes with life. Face the pain of reality and don’t run away from it for it’ll only make things worse. You must take time with yourself and learn to love yourself and accept yourself. That’s what Evangelion taught me at my lowest it reached down to me at my darkest moments in life and and helped me get through things. I love all of Evangelion be it rebuild or Og. I love it all because at my darkest moments I had a person who I could relate to which was Shinji.
People don't undertsand the ending, that's why. The Human Instrumentality Project helped Shinji overcome depression. An optimistic ending. But obviously people didn't like that, which is why he ended up destroying the world and rebuilding it for 2010.
Yeah. That was why i hardly understand the show. I watched it when i was 15 years old; That was when i also hardly understand the world, life, and many other shits. Now with a little taste of existential, nihilist, and absurdist philosophy, i get the big picture of this show.
idk man I watched this at 13 and 14 and I feel that I understand it pretty well but hey everyone's different and perhaps I'm just more mature than others who knows
To think this was a quick animation on a budget, yet still had so much feeling in it. It just made so much sense in my mind, almost like unlocking a thought in my head about the world
This whole scene is primarily about Mead and Goffman's sociological theories of symbolic interactionism and social constructionism if anyone is interested in reading more on the subject
comment right above yours: "this is a consolidation of Sartre's idea of Radical Freedom." lol really though these ideas are thousands of years old, nobody knows the original authors they just get renamed over time.
I love NGE so much. Like no other anime has helped me out this much-helped me have self-compassion for my flaws and knowing my existence is worth existing for, the strength and courage to keep going and to form relationships even if it hurts, like ugh it's just amazingly profound with all the psychology and philosophy in it and how well it captures the human condition. Time for another rewatch
I havent watched this show but now I'm going to. This is basically like a recreation of a dream I had decades ago that I still remember. Either that or just my memory of playing kingdom hearts.
There are some anime that at least try tho. As people said, AOT is one of them. If I had to think of something else, I’d say even Re:Zero touches on some similar themes to NGE. The whole “love yourself” thing is very prominent in there
Most important scene to undestand the meaning behind a lot in this show. The low budget really was a good thing for ep 25 and 27 because it made the episodes so much more artistic.
Ep 25 and 26 A love massage to shinji Idk what to say about these eps I love them more then anything in the world Shinji finding out people love him for his flaws and not hate him cuz of his flaws So he can love him self too U dont have to be someone else to be liked Or loved Someone will love u cuz u r differnt from someone else And yes there might be a better virson of u somewhere but they dont have the same flaws as u And people love u cuz of ur flaws So u do the same for ur self Flaws make u not destroy u Maybe ur life is worth living instad of dying when u r loved Self love comes from the love of others If someone loves u U know u can love ur self too And if u love ur self People will love u So try to love ur self If u dont thunk u deserve it Then idk cuz im stuck there too
I loved the second half of the show more than the first half because it really got deeper than I expected. Shinji is afraid to open himself up to people, and thus his perfect world is him solely flying around. Yet that isn't satisfying either. So the other souls are showing him that the more he actually wants, the less freedom he will have. And so Shinji decides he will sacrifice that freedom, the comfort of loneliness, in order to maintain human contact, as without it we are shapeless and non-existent. It's his ultimate arc, from depressed shut-off loner, to this
I think people who said this scene single handedly cured their depression is wrong. I think the creator actually stated that he disliked the fans who watch anime to escape from depression. Instead of tackling it head on and to stop running away. The scene is saying how only you can cure yourself of your depression and that nothing and no one will help you accept yourself.
This scene remains one of the single most influential things I’ve ever seen in my life, after almost 5 years? I always end up coming back to it when thinking about. Life? Existence? Everything?
I had such a hard time understanding wtf was happening in these 2 last episodes until I watched the end of evangelion and came back and watched the episodes again
Was it Shinji going through this... or was it humanity having a debate with itself about whether to continue with Instrumentality and remain as one being, alone forever?
This scene makes me think, just what did the creator of evangellion go through. This is some in depth wisdom that I think in my opinion is incredibly hard to come by. Especially visualising it. It's weird to me as someone who went into Eva blind with no bias. I find this ending awe inspiring, mainly because of what this scene is trying to show you. You are who you shape yourself as. The visual representations though show layers of other meaning alongside of it. Reminds me just how powerful the human mind can be in either a good or bad place, for something like this to take form.
From my perspective: This is Shinji's own concious (!) self reflection process (about how our perceived reality creates our identitiy). It happens directly after Instrumentality has been initiated. Directly after this layer, Shinji's mind travels to the "theater stage", where he is given a therapeutic conclusion that leads to his ultimate self realization /SPOILER: ("I can learn to love myself"). / ...It is Hideaki Anno's definitve statement. The core of what Evangelion (TV Series) is trying to communicate to its audience. A side note regarding The End of Evangelion movie (SPOILERS): I believe, that the instrumentality stages depicted in The EoE movie are just an alternative version of Shinji's arrival at the therapeutic congratulations ending of TV Ep 26. You could easily interchange the footage with the instrumentality depictions from Ep 26 (incl. congratulations) and arrive at the same plot point in EoE (Shinji wakes up - after realizing the value of life - lying naked in the sea of LCL, talking to Rei and Kaworu about his decision regarding the fate of mankind). I actually cut together a fanedit of EoE that's based on this concept, including some other personal touches. If anybody's interested in it - send me a message, I might make it available. Who knows, maybe I'll also release it on the web some day.
To me personally, this scene (and really these two episodes) are some of my favorite things of the franchise. It was miraculously made in a rush and man, it shows, but the writing is almost...stronger here. It's more abstract and feels more therapeutic, like we really are just diving right into Shinji's mind and seeing how it all works. I just find it amazing it's applicable (and I believe canonically connected) to EoE. It's just so well-built all around. Okay, maybe that's all a little too much credit, but still REALLY good scene regardless.
Seeing Shinji suffering is like seeing myself suffer, because at one point in time I was almost exactly like him, especially back in 10th grade when I was bullied to the brink of suicide. I simply cannot tolerate watching Eva. I felt forced to relive my trauma upon viewing it. I’m deathly afraid of it. Twice I had a nightmare where I saw myself as Shinji choking Asuka and starting the Third Impact. I’ve been struggling with this newfound depression ever since. This series is nothing but a bright shining lie. There is no instant cure for depression as so many on UA-cam and Reddit claimed and praised this series to be. I was obsessed with the series for over a year to try and outwit the Coronavirus pandemic. It only increased the burden, and kept the memory of my friend’s recent suicide alive. Sometimes I hate myself because I fail to appreciate this series which people treat larger than life, because of how much pain it resurfaces. Watching the End of Evangelion was like peering into a broken mirror, and I was viewing the hell I would’ve put myself through had things turned out differently, had I decided to give up living. It still haunts me to this day. I sought emotional refuge in the Evangelion fandom on Discord. Because the series addresses the cost of trauma I hoped they would take me seriously. They didn’t. Instead they mocked my mental health and even created a rumor of my past to get me banned off almost all the servers, and spiraling me further down the rabbit hole. Sometimes I hate myself because I fail to appreciate what so many have claimed cured them of their depression.
If one show could heal you from a depression, then nobody would be depressed anymore. If you claim it did, well.. you were sad, not depressed. Such shows might point you a direction or give a different point of view, but getting out of depression is a long process, the same as getting into it. We're not suddenly waking up in the morning having a depression, this is a slow process, which gradually takes you down over time. Sometimes you might even not notice (or admit) you have it, but for some reason you feel like sht. I disagree with your statement "this series is nothing but a bright shining lie". Note that this scene takes place after all of the people's minds were connected, something that won't happen in real life. This is clearly to indicate, that we need other people in our lives, to take advantage of different points of view. Shinji wouldn't be able to make such conclusions by himself. Whole series is about loneliness, and you can just feel it. It made me wondering for days. I was constantly telling myself "life isn't like that, life's better than that" just to admit at the end, that this is not always the case. We all struggle with our lives, we all run away from our responsibilities, we all are weak and miserable and this series shows that perfectly. I would recommend you to watch Jordan Peterson's lectures on UA-cam, if you haven't already. I bought his book after watching dozens of his lectures and he helped me a lot with overcoming my... well, state in which everything is pointless and waking up is a success. His videos are very eye-opening. But still, it can't replace you a real life interaction with other people. Seeking help from some random people in the internet is not a good idea as well. People are often overwhelmed by their own problems, and they simply don't want to carry yours. If you need someone to talk about your struggles, you need someone that can hold that burden, and sometimes the only person that can do that is unfortunately a therapist. I know I reply a little bit late, but hope you got better.
have you considered that you might be fictionkin? fictionkin struggle with "past life memories" of fictional characters, and they "relate" to the characters so deeply that they see themselves as them. when you empathize with him too much, or you feel like you're him, and you're afraid of losing yourself.. remember that shinji lives a different life than you. you have the power to change it-- shinji doesn't.
this scene is so important
+07 shiro It is indeed one of the most haunting scenes I've ever seen in an anime. Generally, NGE is full of psychological/philosophical references that could be analysed in depth.
It also explained why Shinji was chocking Asuka in the end or other things what made it even better when you watched it the second time. But it's sad that they didn't have the budget to bring the message of this not very great made scene better to the viewers. But still this was such a good scene.
+it's me I think it was on purpose.
I think too, it was done on purpose. Because, really, to deliver a message you don't necessarily need a high budget, just enough resources so you can elaborate efficiently. Plus, imo, I think that highlighting the simplicity of the animation at this point (simple drawn lines that remind a child's sketchbook) kinda isolates the message from all of fancy anime effects; so it gets even more powerful and truly fits the core idea behind the show.
+Charis P. Yeah, it kinda just goes to the basics of his mind, getting more elaborate with the gradual self discovery.
the older i get the better this scene gets
Tmath Indeed.
More like: the more times I see this scene, the better it gets.
Wafflekingdor You get 2m56s older every time
Yeah, it's pretty much because you understand it better and better as you grow older.
For you that might already be obvious, but for others is quite the opposite, for the same reason I explained just now.
Like good wine
The animation at 1:24-1:38 is extremely beautiful and smooth, even without an overt, tangible art style.
the only thing about the last two episodes
They made the same in the "XXXTentacion - Sauce" video
modern day animes cannot compare to the beautiful art of animes like this
people call this lazy but honestly I think that they did the last 2 episodes perfectly
the lack of animation kinda just fits the episodes
not to mention the insane amount of frames that appear to be drawn on regular paper! just imagine how long this took!
@@bjek343 Minimalist art weighs more.
'I will give you a restriction."
That voice and the way he said that, always sounded so godly to me. Ironically it was the voice of shinjis father.
it was ultimately his father that gave him a restriction and something to actually do in life that lead to his growth - making him an EVA pilot. is it fucked up? yes. but it was important
i dont get why people hate this ending it had such a big impact in me, this episode and the episode 25 made me reflect about myself... shinji is a really relatable character, a teen that fells like shit because of the things that he did in the past and cause he fells like everybody hates him, this was his moment of realization this moment of finally solving the puzzle in his mind and starting to love himself
also the artistic and minimalistic way that the episode is animated is a metaphor for the mind and I think the stylistic chose was successful in portraying the message
And thats why I love this ending, theres no right way to look at it, because everyone has a different perspective and thats the beauty of it
(Thanks for reading this)
They hate it because they watch the show for escape, not to make them confront themselves.
@@islandboy9381 That's what everyone who dunks on Evangelion feels. Man.. >:(
they made the animation like this cuz they had low budget.
@@arisnomidisbrazas326 well that’s true but i still think it fit well overall
@@nonamedrogado2819 it really did, I agree
People like to complain that Evangelion has poor animation and low budget. People like to make fun of the last 2 episodes for having less color and animation but I still think it's beautiful, it's a true art piece from the heart. Now I've tried to draw and I've tired to animate things and I know what hard work go's into it. I can appreciate all the subtle animation through out the series. The people that knock eva for it's animation probably don't even know how to draw.
Wait, people don't like the animation?
Xtremis Flash Well some people get all fussy about some long still shots. Personally I think the animation is pretty good especially during the mech fights.
@@shusterandy like the scene where Kaworu gets crushed but that long scene with music only really adds to Shinji's decision.
@@drascofficial1810 Well any how I can admit that the animation can be pretty bad but the story telling and monologues is what really sells the show for me. But the artwork and detail that goes into is good. Like if you watch shows like berserk that has some poor animation and stills but they are detailed and look cool.
@@shusterandy haven't seen it but I know what you mean, like it fits well even though its not "good" art/animation.
I thought a lot about this scene when I first watched it a couple years back. I'm an American, and in my country, we're always talking about freedom, but we don't ask ourselves what that means. What are we free to do? Who are we free to be? In complete isolation, there are theoretically no restrictions on our freedom, but we're stuck empty inside. Is that really freedom? Our beliefs, opinions, ideals- everything that makes us who we are- is derived from our interaction with others and the outside world. This episode made me realize that.
Joshua..
One-ness must be like this. Nothing to compare to...And thus...freedom to be anything and nothing.
Joshua Fagan With free will, you can pull yourself up while others push you down. Some start lower than others, some cant climb at all. A true land of the free is obviously impossible when *anything* exists, the founding father know that. Freedom has a cost, like a subscription. If you want freedom in America, there are chains you still have to be bound to. “The price of freedom is eternal vigilance”- Thomas Jefferson. I think this relates to the scene when Shinji is just a floating mass in nothingness, where he is uncertain at all times.
Benjamin Franklin says there is “essential liberty”, implying that non-essential liberties exist.
Anyways, I do believe that America’s freedom talk is just a banner to rally under when the Americans were fighting for independence, and was a damn good banner at that.
There was no need to discuss the meaning of freedom for them. Thanks to that, the founding fathers and their descendants (i.e; establishments) have gained fame and wealth very much.
But I don’t tell like commoners have got nothing more than freedom. It’s too early to see.
Congratulations! 👏🏻
i will never understand how people hated the final episodes. they are absolute masterclasses in animation and storytelling.
for me, they were the ones that I enjoyed the most
Not enough mindless action for some people.
I enjoy the TV ending for what it is, but it's a pretty jarring shift to go from the end of Episode 24 straight into Instrumentality. And though I do believe the message the ending was trying to send was made in earnest, I think it's a little too naive in how its communicated
@@hasi706 It wasn't instrumentality
@@sentii8131Episode 26's opening text literally says that instrumentality is happening
Wow, for how little animation there is there is a godly amount of style in this scene. The music is perfect too.
just shows you how much genuine love went into this show. the animators, even on a low budget, put everything into making this scene something wonderful to watch
Pleas name song 😭😭😭
@@Hoshi_209 I think its called mother is the first other
People skipping episode 25 and 26 just shows how ignorant they are and how much they dont get the true meaning of this show
I remember watching this back in 7th grade on adult swim and some friends telling me it was lame and boring. My sister managed to Tvo it for me and said it was really good and interesting. Guess who isn’t friends with those people but even closer to their sister now.
wait, people really skip 25 and 26? why?
@@primo4915 cuz they think the 2 are boring
Cuz they are too stupid to get the true meaning
@@primo4915 Because the message of the anime flies over their head.
@@primo4915 becuase people watch it solely for it being “mecha fighting” type anime, and this the actually meaning is boring
i need to rewatch the anime holy shit
this is why i love evangelion
Exactly. IMO it is an anime that you just have to return from time to time and re-discover hidden elements. That's how genius Hideaki Anno (its mangaka) is.
you ought to rewatch it again
This episode cured my depression.
It gave me depression...
...and an existential crisis
>Happy person watches Eva--gets depressed.
>Depressed person watches Eva--gets cured of depression
I think that's how it works.
@@Mutterschwein Or you are depressed and feel even more depressed after watching Evangelion
@@m3m0ris80 Yeah, that's the worst-case scenario I guess.
@@Mutterschwein I have watched the 26 episodes, End of evangelion and the 3 rebuild films and I feel a bit depressed and nostalgic, like Anno created a beautiful universe and at the end destroy it 😭 I want more Shinji, Asuka and Misato storys 😑
this is undoubtedly one of the best scenes in all of anime
As an aspiring animator, I think I truly understand the beauty of episodes 25 and 26. The reason they used such low budget animation (at least the in canon reason) is to portray a message. They’re trying to say that without all the assets of an animation, there is no animation. It’s a metaphor for the world. Without people, without laws, without physics, etc there isn’t a world. This is why the final scene is full animation again. Because the Human Instrumentality Project was completed, and all of the assets of the animation, all of the assets of the world, were in place. That’s my interpretation, I’d love to hear your thoughts
1:28 is where the hallucigenia is for any aot fans that came here to look for it
I remember watching this very same scene when I was 15, and I watched the whole series again this year, im 18 now, it made a lot of sense all of a sudden.
This scene contains an interesting statment on modern art.
The post-modernist ideal of art accentuates that art doesn't have to be "good" or even meaningful to be art, rather it simply needs to be created witht he intent of creating art. In this way, it tries to make as free the artist's potential as possible.
Yet Anno rejects this, arguing that the restrictions of artistic freedoms actually what breed true meaning.
Original Memetics Without the establishment of "limitations", only uncertainty exists. Kant in his theoretical critique of reason, makes the point of acknowledging the boundaries of space and time, granting us the ability to obtain an understanding of our reality, despite the finite capacity of humans to grasp the incomprehensibility of the universe. Clearly, the same process of delineating the boundaries between knowledge and uncertainty are part of what this scene addresses.
Its much more deep than that.
🤔, it can be true what you are saying. But I think it’s really an explanation of existence through Structuralism, in opposition to Sartre’s Existentialism.
Nah bruh
What's the distinction between animism and subject-object binarism. I'm not familiar.
This is such a great scene and the simple art makes it even better imo.
Would you guys like to see more of thought-provoking anime scenes like the above?
I'll see too it as soon as I find some spare time :)
Charis P. Definitely I love to see more of this.
I need to know the song, for the scenes where they are on acid, kinda, an start so crazy you know right?
Doctor Who Cares
Well, if I remember correctly this track is called "mother is the first other"
Liiiiiaaaarrrrrrr
Greatest ending ever! I don't care what smarks say. This was literally the fingerpoke of doom and dumb smarks fell for it and they didn't see it coming. The booker's masterplan was to convey that living, experiencing life, believing in yourself and making connections with people is a much more important message to send across to children than some make believe unrealistic cartoon about robots fighting. The premise of the show was to help people understand that life is worth living. Robots fighting wasn't the point and I like how the ending fooled the fans. Perfect ending ever! Evangelion got me through my depression and this scene alone made my life worth living!
Cadillac the endings occur simultaneously
Evangelions last episodes are literally art pieces. Seriously.
Probably the best 3 minutes in the history of animation. The last few episodes NGE went over my head the first time I watched through them, but a couple days later I watched them again and got it. This scene, till the end of the final congratulations scene, just left me in tears.
I was genuinely surprised to hear that people initially didn’t like the show’s ending. It was easily the best part of the show for me. Idc about giant robots fighting & the slice of life stuff was fine, but i just can’t get enough of shows that get really heady & reference stuff like Jung
“anxiety is the dizziness of freedom” - Søren Kierkegaard, 1844.
Watching this at 14 may have been one of the most important moments of my life.
same, it gave me a whole different perspective on my understanding of my reality, where I can recognize myself as a unique human being.
might have not been the best idea to watch eva that young tho lol
I watched this in 2020 when I was 13, didn't completely appreciate it then, thought it was a great show but missed most of the subtext because I was going through puberty and Shinji-kun was my queer awakening so naturally I was just focused on how sexy he was, now a days, shit hits hard, I tear up watching and merely reading about it now, shit even *thinking* about it.
@@internetual7350 Same for me with the gay awakening part… it was one of the first times I’ve seen a non-hetero protagonist portrayed with sympathy and respect.
@@OmegaLogos Aw that's adorable! For me, Shinji was the first non-hetero character I'd seen, so along with him awakening my true self, he and Evangelion as a whole mean a whole lot to me.
return back to normal vro@@OmegaLogos
This is a pretty good consolidation of Sartre's idea of Radical Freedom.
Which part, exactly? I'm interested in learning more about it
It’s actually an opposite to Sartre’s philosophy. This is more in line with a structuralist way of thinking 🤔
The funny thing is that this scene is actually sound game design advice. If you give players too much freedom, they flounder. It's restrictions that make for interesting engagement. By showing someone what they can't do, you make them wonder what theu CAN do.
Amazing how much meaning you can find in here, I'm designing a game right now, will took that in consideration, thanks!!!
Joserics good luck with that game homie
@@quicklyform5162 Thank you 😁
"You yourself can change as well. Because what shapes you is your own mind and the world around you."
I might not be the only one. I think Evangelion is a one big mirror. I do believe that the religious symbolisms are there because it looks cool, just like Anno said. But this, this is different, it makes us question, and I love that.
Anno has a reputation of lying, 99% chance he said that just to make the controversy surrounding the religious imagery die. You cannot honestly tell me the show would be the same if you removed all religious references.
In this anime is just too much religious reference made with deph to think it "just because it's looks cool". Even this scene reminds of some concepts in various religions, including some mystics of the abrahamic religions.
I hate to be one of those "2deep4u" but in this case, it really was for most people. People don't like to be confronted with their own weak, pathetic nature. Anime watchers don't like to be called out for their stunted emotional growth, and so they rejected it, called it pretentious. Anno broke a big unwritten rule with this and EoE. And that is 'don't make the audience feel bad about themselves'. But it's like fighting an addiction. For a lot of people, agknowleging one's immaturity and insecurities can open the way for wonderful personal growth. I know that's how it made me feel when I watched this for the first time.
I would honestly put this up there with any scene from any piece of cinema ever. This is a masterful exploration of philosophy, character, and humanity. Anyone who skips 25/26 doesn't deserve to watch EoE.
Becoming self aware and choosing empathy is the single act of god. We all know exactly how it feels to be conscious and it’s what connects us. The simplicity of it and the universalness and oneness of it is deeply spiritual and scientific and psychological at the same time. Questioning what it truly means to be content leads us down the same path. the answers really are in our own consciousness while also being shown to us constantly through others. It’s an epiphany and it’s so comforting to know we’ve already been holding the answers
this makes me cry, not a lot, just misty eyed. no matter how many times I see it the last few chapters of evangelion will always be one of, if not the most moving pieces of art I have ever seen, and the most personally important and impactful to me. I'm the only person I know who has seen this show, and I feel like my friends all look at me a little funny when I talk about it, but they just don't know how powerful this piece of media truly is.
Even though I much preferred the way End of Evangelion ended the series, I thought that this ending was quite charming, and you could see how the final 4th wall breaking sequence in EoE is derivative of this
This scene is so psychedelic..
Far and away some of the best animation, coolest, and most visually interesting animation I've seen in any anime. I always revisit this every once in a while.
This scene along with chapter 25 made me resume my existence
The best way to summarize Evangelion is by a sentence of dialogue said in the show “The only person who can sympathize with you and understand you is you. So, be good to yourself.” The anime had its robot fights, biblical references, and a mind fuck of an ending but it’s message was there. The show at its heart was about you accepting the highs and lows of life; the pain and happiness that comes with life. Face the pain of reality and don’t run away from it for it’ll only make things worse. You must take time with yourself and learn to love yourself and accept yourself. That’s what Evangelion taught me at my lowest it reached down to me at my darkest moments in life and and helped me get through things. I love all of Evangelion be it rebuild or Og. I love it all because at my darkest moments I had a person who I could relate to which was Shinji.
1:40 “Take on me (take on me)”
All seriousness aside I thought of that music video too lmao
"IIIIIIIIII'll beeeee gooooone"
Ultimate Gamer “in a day or twooooooooooo”
this show is too deep for kids ill tell you what
People don't undertsand the ending, that's why.
The Human Instrumentality Project helped Shinji overcome depression. An optimistic ending.
But obviously people didn't like that, which is why he ended up destroying the world and rebuilding it for 2010.
Yeah. That was why i hardly understand the show. I watched it when i was 15 years old; That was when i also hardly understand the world, life, and many other shits. Now with a little taste of existential, nihilist, and absurdist philosophy, i get the big picture of this show.
"All animes are for kids"
Boy, how many times did I heard that nonsense...
idk man I watched this at 13 and 14 and I feel that I understand it pretty well
but hey everyone's different and perhaps I'm just more mature than others who knows
Nah. Some kids get it. Some adults wont. Some will get it later, some might not. It's all alright.
To think this was a quick animation on a budget, yet still had so much feeling in it. It just made so much sense in my mind, almost like unlocking a thought in my head about the world
Hands up to the best animated scene of all time and possibly even one of the best ever made.
This scene is a masterpiece
This whole scene is primarily about Mead and Goffman's sociological theories of symbolic interactionism and social constructionism if anyone is interested in reading more on the subject
comment right above yours: "this is a consolidation of Sartre's idea of Radical Freedom."
lol really though these ideas are thousands of years old, nobody knows the original authors they just get renamed over time.
Jesse what the fuck are you taking about
I love NGE so much. Like no other anime has helped me out this much-helped me have self-compassion for my flaws and knowing my existence is worth existing for, the strength and courage to keep going and to form relationships even if it hurts, like ugh it's just amazingly profound with all the psychology and philosophy in it and how well it captures the human condition. Time for another rewatch
I havent watched this show but now I'm going to. This is basically like a recreation of a dream I had decades ago that I still remember. Either that or just my memory of playing kingdom hearts.
1:29 Eren, please.....come home
LMAOOO
0:59 look at him go
it's sad that anime nowadays can't be as deep as this anymore...
Attack on Titan can be considered here
@@picklepie5127 I was exactly about to type Attack on Titan
Deep and confusing. The anime community would be WAY WAY WAY smaller since evangelion isn't everyone's cup of tea.
why can't it?
There are some anime that at least try tho. As people said, AOT is one of them. If I had to think of something else, I’d say even Re:Zero touches on some similar themes to NGE. The whole “love yourself” thing is very prominent in there
Damn Evangelion did it first before AoT.
as someone with chronic depression I understood this scene so well...but my inner depressed comedian found it fatalistically hilarious
"He's not here. No more SpongeBob. No more! I may finally have found a place where I can be all... Alone!"
1:29
Halluceginia, Ma Boy
Either way, now I can keep bugging myself that AOT is the modern NGE
Most important scene to undestand the meaning behind a lot in this show. The low budget really was a good thing for ep 25 and 27 because it made the episodes so much more artistic.
shinji is the founding titan
So we got the titan hallucgenia worm but nobody else is seeing the geass symbol
Bruh yeah. Even Charles plan takes inspiration from instrumentality
Ep 25 and 26
A love massage to shinji
Idk what to say about these eps
I love them more then anything in the world
Shinji finding out people love him for his flaws and not hate him cuz of his flaws
So he can love him self too
U dont have to be someone else to be liked
Or loved
Someone will love u cuz u r differnt from someone else
And yes there might be a better virson of u somewhere but they dont have the same flaws as u
And people love u cuz of ur flaws
So u do the same for ur self
Flaws make u not destroy u
Maybe ur life is worth living instad of dying when u r loved
Self love comes from the love of others
If someone loves u
U know u can love ur self too
And if u love ur self
People will love u
So try to love ur self
If u dont thunk u deserve it
Then idk cuz im stuck there too
"It's all too vague" Evangelion in a nutshell
I thought they were being pretty clear about it honestly.
@@williamhenning4700 there's literally absolutely nothing clear about the ending at all
@@MaruSurfs What did you get confused about it if I may ask?
@@williamhenning4700 most of it? outline what's happening plz
@@MaruSurfs You’re gonna have to be more specific to be honest…
imagine skipping ep 25 and 26
I loved the second half of the show more than the first half because it really got deeper than I expected. Shinji is afraid to open himself up to people, and thus his perfect world is him solely flying around. Yet that isn't satisfying either. So the other souls are showing him that the more he actually wants, the less freedom he will have. And so Shinji decides he will sacrifice that freedom, the comfort of loneliness, in order to maintain human contact, as without it we are shapeless and non-existent. It's his ultimate arc, from depressed shut-off loner, to this
"It's only we lost everything that we are to do anything and this scene proves it.
I think people who said this scene single handedly cured their depression is wrong. I think the creator actually stated that he disliked the fans who watch anime to escape from depression. Instead of tackling it head on and to stop running away. The scene is saying how only you can cure yourself of your depression and that nothing and no one will help you accept yourself.
Yea pretty sure the people who say that fall back into depression once the escaping to anime stops.
Spiritual awareness
This scene remains one of the single most influential things I’ve ever seen in my life, after almost 5 years? I always end up coming back to it when thinking about. Life? Existence? Everything?
1:29 did Evangelion predict Attack on Titan!? 😳
Who ever said this is poor animation obviously diddnt get that he was trying to potray nothingness.
this scene always makes me cry
Favourite sequence from the whole show
The story boards made me cry
I had such a hard time understanding wtf was happening in these 2 last episodes until I watched the end of evangelion and came back and watched the episodes again
Was it Shinji going through this... or was it humanity having a debate with itself about whether to continue with Instrumentality and remain as one being, alone forever?
What's the difference?
Eh? Eh? Get it? :V
This scene makes me think, just what did the creator of evangellion go through. This is some in depth wisdom that I think in my opinion is incredibly hard to come by. Especially visualising it. It's weird to me as someone who went into Eva blind with no bias. I find this ending awe inspiring, mainly because of what this scene is trying to show you. You are who you shape yourself as. The visual representations though show layers of other meaning alongside of it. Reminds me just how powerful the human mind can be in either a good or bad place, for something like this to take form.
this changed me…
forever…
The sudden cut at the end with Shinji waking up after Asuka's comment made me laugh more than it should have
This is the scene that sold eva for me
wait... is this what actually happened when you're in LCL state?
I think so in a subconcious way
no its more of his own mind and possibility. but these thoughts does led to the world he desire in instrumentality
From my perspective:
This is Shinji's own concious (!) self reflection process (about how our perceived reality creates our identitiy). It happens directly after Instrumentality has been initiated. Directly after this layer, Shinji's mind travels to the "theater stage", where he is given a therapeutic conclusion that leads to his ultimate self realization /SPOILER:
("I can learn to love myself"). /
...It is Hideaki Anno's definitve statement. The core of what Evangelion (TV Series) is trying to communicate to its audience.
A side note regarding The End of Evangelion movie (SPOILERS):
I believe, that the instrumentality stages depicted in The EoE movie are just an alternative version of Shinji's arrival at the therapeutic congratulations ending of TV Ep 26. You could easily interchange the footage with the instrumentality depictions from Ep 26 (incl. congratulations) and arrive at the same plot point in EoE (Shinji wakes up - after realizing the value of life - lying naked in the sea of LCL, talking to Rei and Kaworu about his decision regarding the fate of mankind).
I actually cut together a fanedit of EoE that's based on this concept, including some other personal touches. If anybody's interested in it - send me a message, I might make it available.
Who knows, maybe I'll also release it on the web some day.
@@maiskorn123 I'd like to see that
@@maiskorn123 I waaaaant ittt please sir
Freedom? Tatakae! Tatakae!
Also 1:29 kinda looks familiar
This is why evangelion are my favorite anime.. I think a lot of people can related to each of the characters in the anime
This was way ahead of its time. I can see this influencing michael kirkbride who wrote the deeper elder scrolls lore.
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Aot does take some inspiration form eva
@@gusl2708 literally every serious anime takes inspiration from nge.
@@gusl2708 it really does tho. The talk Armin has with Zeke in Paths is something that could 100% have come out of NGE
@@gusl2708 no it doesn't lmao
And both series ended in a controversial way especially how 1995 Evangelion ended and also they got mental breakdown at the end
To me personally, this scene (and really these two episodes) are some of my favorite things of the franchise. It was miraculously made in a rush and man, it shows, but the writing is almost...stronger here. It's more abstract and feels more therapeutic, like we really are just diving right into Shinji's mind and seeing how it all works.
I just find it amazing it's applicable (and I believe canonically connected) to EoE. It's just so well-built all around.
Okay, maybe that's all a little too much credit, but still REALLY good scene regardless.
Spotted Hallu-chan at 1:29
I watched episode 25, 26, and the movie while high as hell.
the water’s high
the water’s high
i know my love…
From 1:39 'till the end is what I consider my favorite part of all of Evangelion. It's pure art and experimentation in my eyes
I love how even though I've only ever seen Evangelion dubbed I know which characters are which just by vibe alone
Voice: *talks*
Shinji: "Last sentence?"
i dont even really like Evangelion but this might be my favorite scene in anime of all time
this shit provides some inner peace
this is literally my metaphysics
man the music tho were shinji screams by seeing asuka's eva being destroyed and asuka himself killed
Was about to skip the last 2 episode then these hits
Seeing Shinji suffering is like seeing myself suffer, because at one point in time I was almost exactly like him, especially back in 10th grade when I was bullied to the brink of suicide. I simply cannot tolerate watching Eva. I felt forced to relive my trauma upon viewing it. I’m deathly afraid of it. Twice I had a nightmare where I saw myself as Shinji choking Asuka and starting the Third Impact. I’ve been struggling with this newfound depression ever since.
This series is nothing but a bright shining lie. There is no instant cure for depression as so many on UA-cam and Reddit claimed and praised this series to be. I was obsessed with the series for over a year to try and outwit the Coronavirus pandemic. It only increased the burden, and kept the memory of my friend’s recent suicide alive. Sometimes I hate myself because I fail to appreciate this series which people treat larger than life, because of how much pain it resurfaces.
Watching the End of Evangelion was like peering into a broken mirror, and I was viewing the hell I would’ve put myself through had things turned out differently, had I decided to give up living. It still haunts me to this day.
I sought emotional refuge in the Evangelion fandom on Discord. Because the series addresses the cost of trauma I hoped they would take me seriously. They didn’t. Instead they mocked my mental health and even created a rumor of my past to get me banned off almost all the servers, and spiraling me further down the rabbit hole.
Sometimes I hate myself because I fail to appreciate what so many have claimed cured them of their depression.
If one show could heal you from a depression, then nobody would be depressed anymore. If you claim it did, well.. you were sad, not depressed. Such shows might point you a direction or give a different point of view, but getting out of depression is a long process, the same as getting into it. We're not suddenly waking up in the morning having a depression, this is a slow process, which gradually takes you down over time. Sometimes you might even not notice (or admit) you have it, but for some reason you feel like sht.
I disagree with your statement "this series is nothing but a bright shining lie". Note that this scene takes place after all of the people's minds were connected, something that won't happen in real life. This is clearly to indicate, that we need other people in our lives, to take advantage of different points of view. Shinji wouldn't be able to make such conclusions by himself.
Whole series is about loneliness, and you can just feel it. It made me wondering for days. I was constantly telling myself "life isn't like that, life's better than that" just to admit at the end, that this is not always the case. We all struggle with our lives, we all run away from our responsibilities, we all are weak and miserable and this series shows that perfectly.
I would recommend you to watch Jordan Peterson's lectures on UA-cam, if you haven't already. I bought his book after watching dozens of his lectures and he helped me a lot with overcoming my... well, state in which everything is pointless and waking up is a success. His videos are very eye-opening. But still, it can't replace you a real life interaction with other people. Seeking help from some random people in the internet is not a good idea as well. People are often overwhelmed by their own problems, and they simply don't want to carry yours. If you need someone to talk about your struggles, you need someone that can hold that burden, and sometimes the only person that can do that is unfortunately a therapist.
I know I reply a little bit late, but hope you got better.
Copy past
have you considered that you might be fictionkin? fictionkin struggle with "past life memories" of fictional characters, and they "relate" to the characters so deeply that they see themselves as them. when you empathize with him too much, or you feel like you're him, and you're afraid of losing yourself.. remember that shinji lives a different life than you. you have the power to change it-- shinji doesn't.
Even on a time crunch and low budget the animation is still beautiful
I don't care what anyone says
1:27 TATAKAE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Really cool scene.. This episode did a great job to end the series. Very beautiful and interesting.
bruh why people hating on this ending sure it seems kinda rushed but its still uplifting and interesting...
1:29 Ong hallucigenia!!!!! AoT refrenc?1!1??!1!1! 😳😳😳
The quarantine brought me here.
It's interesting how kid Shinji is talking to him.
Ahh fuck now that computer is widespread this made a lot more sense