Idolmaster turns Marine into a gacha addict once again [Hololive]

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  • Опубліковано 10 вер 2021
  • Houshou Marine returns to the gacha game she quit 5 years ago...
    Source:
    • 【デレステ】5年ぶりに復帰…無敵のアニバーサ...
    ‪@HoushouMarine‬
    #vtuber #idolmaster #sadpanda
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  • @liamciaran
    @liamciaran 2 роки тому +198

    Marine is so fucking funny, literally always. She's easily top 3 Holo in terms of just vocal entertainment.
    Bless this little coomer.

    • @Syncopia
      @Syncopia 2 роки тому +7

      There's no tricks here, what you see is what you get.

    • @klittlet
      @klittlet 2 роки тому +4

      * Pictures coomer image but with marine's hair

  • @KiririnIchiban
    @KiririnIchiban 2 роки тому +295

    Thank god Marine got me out of my crippling gacha addiction. Now I just SC all the money I would have spent there.

    • @casserol2202
      @casserol2202 2 роки тому +49

      oh the folly of men

    • @_Erogaki
      @_Erogaki 2 роки тому +26

      It is also cheaper to simp for these ladies than wasting away at gacha games.

    • @-zentheintergalacticninja6568
      @-zentheintergalacticninja6568 2 роки тому +9

      As a wise monk once said: "Waifus, man. Waifus."

    • @ChinchillaBONK
      @ChinchillaBONK 2 роки тому +8

      Technically it's the same. it's just that you passed your gacha money to Senchou to pull on your behalf for her sake. Hahahaha

    • @workwork7837
      @workwork7837 2 роки тому

      @@ChinchillaBONK Two birds with one stone

  • @TheDoctorofOdoIsland
    @TheDoctorofOdoIsland 2 роки тому +71

    "It's the one who's been milked over a million times in ero-doujin. Shizuku-san!"
    Senchou is a true woman of culture indeed.

  • @lolzant397
    @lolzant397 2 роки тому +25

    11:53
    "It's the most pornpular girl!!!!"

  • @RagnarokMasta
    @RagnarokMasta 2 роки тому +96

    Senchou, even if you have the cash now, be smart, don't give into the pulling addiction.

    • @SuperCatacata
      @SuperCatacata 2 роки тому +8

      I know this is probably sarcasm. But nothing is more annoying than fans pretending to be a hololive mem's parents. That shit is so cringe, they are grown adults who can do what they want. Stop pretending to know better. Rant over.

    • @spookydan39
      @spookydan39 2 роки тому +34

      @@SuperCatacata People can do what they want, sure, nobody can force her to do it or not. That's up to her, live and let live.
      But according to Marine, she spent about 1 million yen on this gacha, almost 10k usd. She was addicted pure and simple, and generally encouraging gambling is something people don't do.
      Its like if you hear about a singer that you like is addicted to cocaine. Maybe you can't do anything, but surely you'd want them to get help?

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 2 роки тому +5

      I always take it with moderation. If it is something enjoy there is nothing wrong about spending a bit, but don't let it go so far to cause issues with life.

    • @YuSooKey
      @YuSooKey 2 роки тому +17

      @@SuperCatacata Got it. Never give anyone advice on anything if they're an adult.

    • @briansantos1700
      @briansantos1700 2 роки тому +1

      @@SuperCatacata You'll be surprised with the number of stupid decisions adults do on a regular basis. The good thing about people is that we're all stupid and smart in different ways that we even each other out if we're willing.

  • @shirayajo7590
    @shirayajo7590 2 роки тому +133

    Ah yes, that bribery buff the game dev gave to you when you're back after a hiatus so you can get stuck in the same gacha hell all over again.. Also dang Senchou, what kind of Idolmasters doujins did you read? X"D
    As always thanks for the cultured clip Shabby! Omw to n to check out some tags reading material as well

  • @DarkYamatoman
    @DarkYamatoman 2 роки тому +17

    "Enjoy sports? More like enjoy oppai"
    lmfao, I love Marine

  • @casserol2202
    @casserol2202 2 роки тому +20

    2:48 omg new Senchou noise

    • @darlinglove7602
      @darlinglove7602 2 роки тому +3

      if you looped that it'd be a very good alarm lol 'eh?! eh?! eh?! eh?! eh?! '

  • @pensmith
    @pensmith 2 роки тому +43

    Senchou... don't return to the dark side.

    • @atomicflame22
      @atomicflame22 2 роки тому +1

      Too late brother. let's join hands together towards the dark with senchou

  • @NguyenHoang-horizon
    @NguyenHoang-horizon 2 роки тому +15

    0:39 The song automatically played in my head lmao.

  • @mercurialinterference6931
    @mercurialinterference6931 2 роки тому +22

    welcome back to the gacha hell, marine.

  • @jack-exzolt9858
    @jack-exzolt9858 2 роки тому +172

    **Pulls an SS**
    Senchou: "Oh yah, I've only seen her in H-Doujins"
    Okay...

    • @burnoutcat2387
      @burnoutcat2387 2 роки тому +7

      I wonder what if she read Alp's
      They're pretty great

    • @lemao2222
      @lemao2222 2 роки тому +8

      it's one of, if not The largest parody tags on the internet. I could recognize Shibuya Rin, yet I haven't played a single im@s game.

    • @shinodamasaru7945
      @shinodamasaru7945 2 роки тому +4

      Cultured senchou

  • @Akumasama
    @Akumasama 2 роки тому +8

    If you put your ear to a seashell, you will hear sounds of the ocean, such as the majestic cries of a whale.
    "Ahoy!"
    Fantastic.

  • @Light_ilmi
    @Light_ilmi 2 роки тому +52

    I've been playing this game for 5 years.
    Collecting the jewels for Spark is really hard for F2P like me.

    • @johnlambert1505
      @johnlambert1505 2 роки тому +1

      ありすちゃん~💗

    • @chikomitata
      @chikomitata 2 роки тому +5

      At least it has sparks mechanic.
      ~an FGO and GBF player.

  • @kingofbel6499
    @kingofbel6499 2 роки тому +36

    this gacha is actually not bad as a f2p because I had a lot of SSR idols without spending a cent.

    • @infinitykiyen6270
      @infinitykiyen6270 2 роки тому +9

      Plus you can still reuse them.
      This here is how good Gacha game should be. Not the type where it forces you to do so like many games under Bandai...
      Trust me it's hell even YGO game under its banner.

  • @kayvenperez2250
    @kayvenperez2250 2 роки тому +4

    Shabz sama, thank you for your hard work! 🙏

  • @piggypoo
    @piggypoo 2 роки тому +21

    Tbqh regarding that ending image, Shabby has impeccable taste in anime.

  • @herofromthedark
    @herofromthedark 2 роки тому +31

    Now when Marine says "milked"... does she mean it as "she's been used over and over again," or does she mean milked like a cow??

    • @Jasdebi148
      @Jasdebi148 2 роки тому +18

      literally milked like a cow (and often in a cow outfit). You can check it for yourself if you look up the cultured pictures.

    • @MetronaJ
      @MetronaJ 2 роки тому +6

      Just as the other person mentioned
      Milked like a cow
      She's the farm girl idol so uhhh yeah

    • @johnlambert1505
      @johnlambert1505 2 роки тому +7

      Farm girl: ✔️
      Big opp*i: ✔️
      Cow outfit: ✔️
      milked opp*i doujin: 📈📈📈

    • @frostxtb8990
      @frostxtb8990 2 роки тому +3

      @@johnlambert1505 hmmm sounds like noel XD

    • @imstupid880
      @imstupid880 9 місяців тому +1

      Both

  • @Baronight
    @Baronight 2 роки тому +45

    Watching this just make me feel nostalgic...if only marine can still play Azur Lane, her commentary would be hilarious

    • @lucaswibisono1316
      @lucaswibisono1316 2 роки тому +9

      Especially Azur Lane these days... Im sure she'll like it.

    • @FJTA
      @FJTA 2 роки тому

      True true

  • @burnoutcat2387
    @burnoutcat2387 2 роки тому +5

    Senchou gained a better understanding of how we feel watching her

  • @ThePuppet13r
    @ThePuppet13r 2 роки тому +5

    I felt the same way with the new Konosuba game... I couldn't stop till I get the SS Megumin 😅

  • @friskyhearttryhardus3283
    @friskyhearttryhardus3283 2 роки тому +4

    Senchou... after that lecture about the dangers of gacha... why are you descending down to hell on your own free will lol

  • @imstupid880
    @imstupid880 9 місяців тому

    Always glad to see Marine being one of the boys.
    >pity roll at 300
    Ah, if only. That could fill the hole left by Gibara.

  • @cry9438
    @cry9438 2 роки тому +6

    Ah yes, an ultra rare JPEG. A thousand dollars well spent.

  • @HappyBeezerStudios
    @HappyBeezerStudios 2 роки тому +15

    Seeing her so exited about cute live2d girls in a gacha game only confirms that we need a hologacha. Now!
    Oh and senchou also demonstrates beiing highly culturred in her favorites.

  • @MrZestful
    @MrZestful 2 роки тому +7

    12:19

  • @buriedghostlady
    @buriedghostlady 2 роки тому +1

    The ending.. same XD

  • @timothyng3226
    @timothyng3226 2 роки тому +3

    foolish senchou. Does she still not know that rate up is a lie

  • @khakisohn9710
    @khakisohn9710 2 роки тому +2

    Ayooo azazel at the end oml I'm so glad someone else knows this fucked up show lolol

  • @Bob.Roberts
    @Bob.Roberts 2 роки тому

    11:55 I was about to say, I've only ever seen her in a cow costume, lol.

  • @jaywye
    @jaywye 2 роки тому +1

    5:35 Ryoute hirogete motto zenshin shiyou!

  • @paorousama
    @paorousama 2 роки тому +4

    Ah yes she likes shiki the most
    Yes that checks out
    Hope she does a cover of secret eau de toilette

  • @Mecks089
    @Mecks089 2 роки тому +1

    There goes all of Senchou's paycheck again.

  • @Snozzwangler
    @Snozzwangler 2 роки тому +3

    Oh no... Not again...

  • @bakasuka7341
    @bakasuka7341 2 роки тому +3

    The ero ero nurse has the same bday month and date as me ;-;
    KEKW

  • @Elilymo
    @Elilymo 2 роки тому +1

    gacha ... dont let da desire sensor catch u

  • @Morikub0
    @Morikub0 2 роки тому +2

    So the one she likes the most is Shiki. I knew she had good taste.

  • @pingu6338
    @pingu6338 2 роки тому +6

    Wtf is an unemployment benefit??
    And also I guess the Devs are welcoming a former whale with the rates..

    • @セチャワン
      @セチャワン 2 роки тому +1

      When you just got fired or retired you get those money (period) it's like an insurance

  • @kathartik9000
    @kathartik9000 2 роки тому +1

    To think the only experience I have with this game is through doujins...

  • @darkatsuki1289
    @darkatsuki1289 2 роки тому +2

    I can relate to Marine somehow, i dont really follow Idolmaster much but Im familiar of the characters because of ero-doujins XD

  • @hitnfgsbluntd1194
    @hitnfgsbluntd1194 2 роки тому +2

    Which the way Marine speaks, I often forget she is only 17(season 12)!!!!
    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @DKPGames
    @DKPGames 2 роки тому +2

    This is so predatory i feel bad for her

  • @eternumblaze7097
    @eternumblaze7097 2 роки тому +1

    Welcome back to gacha hell Senchou.

  • @goleogthais
    @goleogthais 2 роки тому +9

    imagine spending so much money gambling just to get some gifs, when you can just get the art for free

    • @Syncopia
      @Syncopia 2 роки тому +5

      Don't do gacha kids

    • @burnoutcat2387
      @burnoutcat2387 2 роки тому +1

      Part of why I dropped Fate GO (totally not because I deleted my data like an idiot while transferring it) after a while you figure that you can just get the images WITHOUT getting the characters

    • @oyah999
      @oyah999 2 роки тому +3

      u also pay for the quick shot of dopamine to your brain.
      also depression and regret

    • @MetronaJ
      @MetronaJ 2 роки тому +5

      Ah but in this game
      They come with a 3d model you can put into music videos :v

  • @randomlurker7929
    @randomlurker7929 2 роки тому +8

    She's a gambling addict.. how is this woman so impossibly based

  • @oujimandias6485
    @oujimandias6485 2 роки тому +1

    Like わかるマン once said, 「ここすき!」

  • @lastnamefirstname8655
    @lastnamefirstname8655 2 роки тому +1

    once again, huh.
    nice.
    once a gacha addict, always a gacha addict.

  • @UPaulD4
    @UPaulD4 2 роки тому +1

    ""Enjoy sports?" More like "Enjoy oppai." I actually laughed out loud.

  • @floofiekun1875
    @floofiekun1875 2 роки тому +1

    "Enjoy sports? More like enjoy oppai"

  • @pd_t
    @pd_t 2 роки тому +1

    I do not get these games. Still, Fumika live 2D SSR swimsuit is the best swimsuit in the game. The voice actor for sugar heart cracks me up with her lines.

  • @Syncopia
    @Syncopia 2 роки тому +1

    Marine simps for idol booba for 12 minutes.

  • @NightSterling
    @NightSterling 2 роки тому +2

    Man i miss marine's azur lane streams

  • @benschmidt8168
    @benschmidt8168 2 роки тому

    It's a shame that million live isn't anyone in hololive's first choice. The person that does I will simp to them immediately.

  • @isaac10231
    @isaac10231 2 роки тому +3

    I never have and never will play a gacha.

  • @johnlambert1505
    @johnlambert1505 2 роки тому +1

    A..aaah.. this clip is so salty T _ T )

  • @Fourbix
    @Fourbix 2 роки тому +6

    If her public is any good, they will prevent her to fall once again into addiction. We all know she can do much more than rolling to obtain fan arts of girls she could draw herself.

  • @infinitykiyen6270
    @infinitykiyen6270 2 роки тому +3

    My game review on that is actually pretty good. Sure it's hard to earn gems for gacha but... Do you really need them? Not much cause you can still reuse the previous idol just fine.
    That's good game design. Not forcing player to buy staff to win.
    Bad example would be...
    SAO MD games under Bandai
    -You can't win the reward without event limited character as it is "Created just for the event"
    -Gacha rate sucks...
    -Hard to earn gems...
    Summery you will have to whale it to at least follow up with the event... I'm not even talking about ranking there... The ranking is way worse now thx to gacha. Think of it as Genshin Impact but with worse rate and has ranking... Imagine how much you would whale to get to top 10.
    Originally it wasn't this bad until they introducing 5 star and then 6-8 star.
    That's when it gets weird. If only they knew 4 star is already a hard drop... This is like try to divide 1% rate and do it again.
    Originally it was 4 stars around 1-5%. (As rarest)
    Now it's 5-8 star with 0.00xxx (as rarest)
    Now you get why adding rarity is bad?
    Like what gacha game should NEVER do is reinvented a rarer unit... Like dafuq is that? Just stick with your own rarity!
    Fun fact the rate there is worse than FGO but with pity... Though those pity only whale could ever afford. Since in general gacha there is already a luxury so F2P can't even reach pity roll...
    For some reason this keep happening in Bandai game.
    -Tales of game? Also adding more rarity...
    -YGO? This one it's fair cause all meta will win... It actually would be better off in real life because we can trade cards there in game shop...
    -3D MMO SAO game? Follow SAO MD route...
    I don't understand but Bandai is killing off its own game... Eventually yes, they will get massive money but in short term...
    They should look up to how FGO manage to stay alive for 7 years. It's one of the oldest yet most balanced gacha with actual tactics I ever see.
    -Need guide to clear with low rarity? It exists cause the GM run test to make sure it works.
    -No gacha gameplay? It also possible with just event servant... I'm not joking you can run the entirely game with just Friend Point gacha. Though this takes COMMITMENT!
    -Solo run with a single SSR every quest? It's possible... There's a variety of video featuring that too as proof.
    -Quest being too hard? No worry the GM will set that as an optional quest. They already test it to make sure any player can clear it. You just need a bit of brain power.
    It's balanced but yeah, it's also growing old. Nothing last forever like... A lot actually go to Genshin Impact now.

    • @infinitykiyen6270
      @infinitykiyen6270 2 роки тому +2

      Like seriously... I dare those GM to play their game with low rarity and clear their fking quest...
      Cause I as formal top 7 in ranking can't...
      Why so? Cause you damage score lock!
      Low rarity in SAO MD has low damage thus will lose cause of damage lock! Oh, also low damage means low DPS... This means it takes too long so you will also get a TIME OUT!
      It's never possible...
      I actually try it too. I try challenge current game with maxed out 4 stars... Guess what? I lost cause of time out. Imagine a new player want to get all the item...
      All my advice would be
      "Get lucky roll for the event character... I try another route but it's not possible :')"
      At this point I think you would rather play online gamble game like...
      -Online Pocker
      -Manjo
      -Etc
      That's why increase rarity just blow the game... Grinding can help but that would take months now...
      Compare to gamble... It's an equal to just adding "special text" on each poker card... Even if the card state 2 heart some might has effect of "times 10"
      That's the level of how bad it was...
      A lot of gambler would call that as cheatiing.

    • @infinitykiyen6270
      @infinitykiyen6270 2 роки тому +2

      Worse in SAO MD...
      It's a copy of what I said in repeating route... That's bad game...

    • @chikomitata
      @chikomitata 2 роки тому +1

      I prefer developer following GBF than FGO.
      But if a game manage to make you prefer FGO than it, it really needs consideration.
      But seriously, I'll always write that FGO needs pity system. No, unregistered spirit origin is not a pity.
      People writing having 1k SQ and hoping to got a unit is sad since in other game, that amount is already spark.

    • @infinitykiyen6270
      @infinitykiyen6270 2 роки тому +1

      @@chikomitata Yes I agree the game management is godlike but no pity? That's kinda bad TBH XD
      So yeah GBF will win in the pity system for sure.

  • @LemonRush7777
    @LemonRush7777 2 роки тому +2

    I'm glad this game is not in english. I am 100% sure I would fall into gacha hell with it if it was...

    • @johnlambert1505
      @johnlambert1505 2 роки тому +1

      you play deresute for the beautiful character cards, 3D models concert mode, and the main feature which is Im@s song. so you don't even need english translation to play it.
      your only need to make a japanese google account, install it, and welcome to gacha hell

    • @LemonRush7777
      @LemonRush7777 2 роки тому +1

      @@johnlambert1505 NO! Stop! You will not tempt me!

  • @Deses
    @Deses 2 роки тому +1

    This proves that gacha is designed to part you from your money.

  • @IronicHavoc
    @IronicHavoc 2 роки тому

    I honestly have zero idea what the actual gameplay of Cinderella Girls is.

    • @MetronaJ
      @MetronaJ 2 роки тому +2

      Its a rhythm game

  • @deckyfiyemonda9893
    @deckyfiyemonda9893 2 роки тому +1

    Didn't marine just pulled a F2P BTW move?

  • @Ryo-SeiaEnjoyer
    @Ryo-SeiaEnjoyer 2 роки тому

    I know marine feel about offers
    But it hurts me when someone spends directly on gems
    Im someone who spends like 1 times a month so i like always to go for offers and hurts me seing someone getting that much duppes lol

  • @malayabiz
    @malayabiz 2 роки тому +1

    I wish marine would play azur lane again *sadge

  • @kenalcaraz5254
    @kenalcaraz5254 2 роки тому

    So Shabs (or anyone), why did the game's JP nickname become Dere-Ste? I was expecting something like Cin-Sta or something.

    • @Jasonmoofang
      @Jasonmoofang 2 роки тому

      "Dere" is from "cinDERElla girls", hence this branch is referred to as "derem@s" to differentiate from the other im@s branches. "sute" is from "starlight STAge", "stage" being "sute-ji" in katakana. The japanese have an interesting sense for abbreviation :)

    • @dasssad
      @dasssad 2 роки тому

      @@Jasonmoofang
      Actually, Original Dere-mas(The Idolmaster Cinderella Girls) had been commonly called "Moba-mas"(stand for a I-mas that developed by Mobage) or "Sinde-mas"(a Japanese pun that literally means "Being dead") by early fans.
      But After thier internet radio show was officially shorten as "Dere-raji"(they connected "sindereRA" to "RAjio" ) , they started using "Dere-" as an official abbreviation for the Cinderella girls series.

  • @manat31790
    @manat31790 2 роки тому

    I don't really quite understand what's the deal with gacha addicts. I do play some Japanese mobile games. They give me bucket loads of in-game currency just because I haven't played them for a while, so I used them to roll limited items and rare characters. I mainly play Powapuro Appli, and I have a dozen of PSR characters without really trying.
    These mobile games are a lot less demanding on root boxes than PC games, like Team Fortress 2 where you get crates that are completely useless if you aren't willing to pay for keys. Unless you really want specific characters or try to brag your all 5-star cast roster, there isn't really any reason to spend real money on gacha.

  • @Eclipse8502
    @Eclipse8502 2 роки тому +1

    Watching an anime girl pull gacha for anime girls

  • @Strayfish.
    @Strayfish. Рік тому

    What can you do with the character tho ?

  • @-Osiris-
    @-Osiris- 2 роки тому +7

    I never understood gacha games, you pull the cards but then what? How do you 'win'?

    • @LordSerpent
      @LordSerpent 2 роки тому +30

      you win by quitting

    • @lepetitproducteurdecomment9339
      @lepetitproducteurdecomment9339 2 роки тому +7

      Neurone activation

    • @Sisyanor
      @Sisyanor 2 роки тому

      No idea, can’t she use them throught the game or something?

    • @jaymzOG
      @jaymzOG 2 роки тому +2

      Well some of them have story modes and rare characters have higher stats. Otherwise it's just like pulling cards out of Pokemon or Yugioh card packs.

    • @lolzant397
      @lolzant397 2 роки тому +7

      You pull the cards and in some gacha they're used in gameplay
      Idk how is it on deresute but I think aside from the gacha side it's a rythm game? At least that's what I think idol gacha games are like
      The end goal of those games it's to uninstall them

  • @vantasethatsit9903
    @vantasethatsit9903 2 роки тому +1

    Mio in the doujin verse is not energetic?
    Well somehow most of the doujin verse plot is kinda..... Harsh on her.

  • @planguy9575
    @planguy9575 2 роки тому +1

    Honestly how many Gacha addicts are in Hololive?

  • @dorklymorkly3290
    @dorklymorkly3290 2 роки тому +1

    more ecchi material on the internet, for free and piracy than one can look at in ones lifetime.
    spend ungodly amounts of money on gacha for not even that.

  • @darwishazrel2002
    @darwishazrel2002 2 роки тому +1

    what is sadpanda?

    • @Nam9xz
      @Nam9xz 2 роки тому +4

      Some kind of website, you know.

    • @Jindils
      @Jindils 2 роки тому +2

      Exh*****

    • @darwishazrel2002
      @darwishazrel2002 2 роки тому +1

      @@Jindils ohh yeah i know,cant access exhen for some reason

    • @MetronaJ
      @MetronaJ 2 роки тому +1

      @@darwishazrel2002 well yeah you need an account (there are specific steps to get in)

  • @MaxiUsagi
    @MaxiUsagi 2 роки тому

    wait there's an unemployment benefits?

  • @YuSooKey
    @YuSooKey 2 роки тому +1

    She has such horrible impulse control that gacha should be banned for Marine.

  • @dopaminecloud
    @dopaminecloud 2 роки тому +8

    Social disease. Hope people take the threat of these practices more seriously soon.

    • @mattdavis3356
      @mattdavis3356 2 роки тому +3

      only for the weak-minded lmao

    • @NguyenHoang-horizon
      @NguyenHoang-horizon 2 роки тому +4

      yeah it's should be treated the same way as gambling

    • @lionelk.y7233
      @lionelk.y7233 2 роки тому +1

      Ugh you fckin annoy me
      Just teach people that these are but mere cards and a line of code
      If you spend your life savings on it thats your fault
      I can never get how people can like spend over like 1K on these bad boys

    • @stupididiot9336
      @stupididiot9336 2 роки тому +6

      ​@@lionelk.y7233 It's an addiction, the same way as anything else. Sounds ridiculous, but for some people gambling is a drug. I don't spend money to pull on gachas, but as someone who's played them for a while and kept up with a few communities it's hard not to see the appeal and be tempted to spend. Don't fault the player, fault the scummy business practices.

    • @dopaminecloud
      @dopaminecloud 2 роки тому

      @@mattdavis3356 I can tell you don't know the first thing about addiction and manipulation. You are the exact mindset they'd love for everyone to have.

  • @gizemlicocuk3468
    @gizemlicocuk3468 Рік тому +1

    11:52