If they were pulling 100 cars or more, the Big Boy would win. Not to mention the Big Boys’ max speed on freight trains was at a max of 60mph, the 844 and her sister engines have a max speed of atleast 110mph
Big boy is one of the most powerful locomotives ever built in history. These locomotives were designed to handle 4500 ton drag freights on their own over the mountains of Utah. They were capable and did in fact once pull a 5 1/2 long loaded freight train by themselves. 844 was more along the lines of a passenger engine much like an A4 or even a p class Mikado of lner heritage. Towards the end of the steam era here in the states, 844 did haul freight trains, think of her as just a huge mixed traffic loco
@@yuliaong9617 not even REMOTELY accurate. Don't ever compare fictional caricatures of locomotives to real life masterpieces. Trust me, people out there will NEVER stop making fun of you if you do. Especially nowadays.
Union Pacific built their locos tough. 844 may be 'smaller', but size isn't everything. The Big Boys were meant to pull heavy loads great distances and not at high speed. Because 844 has speed it can pull heavy loads too, as it has a surplus of power for its size. A Big Boy is not necessarily in any hurry, but the FEFs can do any job. Better engineering!!😁
I would like to say, that the big boy was made to haul freight at 60mph, where as the 844 was made to haul things at 120mph. The is a big difference between the two. The engineers were known for running the 844 like locomotives at more then 120mph
By American standards, these trains were pretty small. If they were pulling much more massive trains, big boy would win through strength. However, the FEF-3 (844) is still extremely strong, and also incredibly fast.
Oliver I think I may have a solution to your problem of the engines exploding, just dont use the smokebox ones, I think you dud say that the smokebox engines have a tendency to explode when you give them too much power
Smokebox’s locomotives are designed to be as realistic as possible, meaning they will face explosions. So like if you’re wanting to get the best possible power test, you would have to use Smokebox’s locomotives. Maybe not making them race would cause them not to explode.
So I saw a documentary on big boy they said that they were pulling over 5 miles long so I looked up how many train cars were in a mile and it was between 90 and 150 so I estimated at least 500 minimum car was what big boys were pulling for that reason they were built for
Hi LaZeR JET that was the best strength challenge ever and the up 844 is my favourite American steam train ever I like the sound I like when it runs and I like the speed
I want you to do a strength challenge with Northern Pacific Z5 Yellowstone against Northern Pacific Z8 Challenger. Also, do a strength Challenge with Chesapeake and Ohio Kanawha 2716 versus Chesapeake and Ohio 2-6-6-6 No. 1616.
New Strength Competition Request (U.s.a VS Europe):Union Pacific 844, Northfolk Southern SD70ACe, & Amtrak Acela Express VS Flying Scotsman, Class 125, & Tgv This is my last suggestion for you to do before I die from Covid-19🤒🤒🤒🤒🤒🤒🤒🤒
Imagine... Americans build things big, and Germans build things tough and durable... Hmm... I wonder... What happens when you combine American engineering with German engineering? What kind of locomotive would you get?
@@the_earlybirf1170 So the question still stands, what kind of locomotive would you have if you combine American size and strength with German toughness and durability?
Big Boys can pull up to 120 cars sometimes more. I believe 1 of the 25 managed to pull 154 cars. Oh and the Big Boys get go 80mhp but they never usually hit that speed.
Laserjet, amazing video, but may I ask you on quick question. Even though it's train simulator 2022, it is exactly the same map as the train simulator 2021 map.
One lucky grandpa that got to do that on the Rock Island. 50 cars is a lot for British trains laserjet usually does, but yeah nothing compared to American consists.
If you are going to do a strength challenge, programming the locomotives so that they don’t over work themselves would be best. Edit: nevermind that’s exactly what he did lol
I want the 844 to win because it is faster than and almost strong as the Big Boy. Did you know that there were 25 Big Boys, 105 Challengers, and 45 FEF class 4-8-4s of the Union Pacific.
"the American trains always surprise me"....bruh....MOVE TO AMERICA! we have the worlds largest operating steam locomotive! I've been in the cab of 844, 4014, and 3985 while under steam, and got to do the thing that most people don't get to do: blow that whistle!
Don't beat yourself up, Lazer Jet, American steam engines aren't all that. I personally think the British steam engines are the best. I mean, you guys have The Flying Scotsman.
I think that's why American trains have lots of power because they have to carry lots of freight while getting there quick to keep production moving along
Lazer the only reason UP 844 won the race was because it is stream lined bib boy is not so to me that is the only reason why 844 won the race and not big boy
![Train Simulator 2021 - German Steam locomotives [German Race]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/2vIWI7AuS7M/mqdefault.jpg)
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If they were pulling 100 cars or more, the Big Boy would win.
Not to mention the Big Boys’ max speed on freight trains was at a max of 60mph, the 844 and her sister engines have a max speed of atleast 110mph
I would agree
Incorrect, Big Boy type was capable of pushing 85MPH with 0 cars, 75MPH for 50 cars at a 0.1% grade
Can someone explain to me why does the speedometer on the up 844 says 200mph maximum top speed if it can only go 120mph ?
@@cecainemaresainnebunesc8962 in case of a runaway, they can monitor speed
@@NashRailfan you are correct, but supposedly the big boys could go like 110 MPH. But they obviously didn't test that.
Big boy is one of the most powerful locomotives ever built in history. These locomotives were designed to handle 4500 ton drag freights on their own over the mountains of Utah. They were capable and did in fact once pull a 5 1/2 long loaded freight train by themselves. 844 was more along the lines of a passenger engine much like an A4 or even a p class Mikado of lner heritage. Towards the end of the steam era here in the states, 844 did haul freight trains, think of her as just a huge mixed traffic loco
So big boy is Henry from Thomas and 844 is Edward from Thomas too (basically)
@@yuliaong9617 not even REMOTELY accurate. Don't ever compare fictional caricatures of locomotives to real life masterpieces. Trust me, people out there will NEVER stop making fun of you if you do. Especially nowadays.
@@ChargerusPrimekk
You should do a narrow gauge strength challenge
Cool idea bro
Perhaps add a 0-4-0TT England class. (Basis for Duke)
ok but how about only 8 wagons because the guage engines are like a bit too small to carry alot
While in service, Big Boy could haul 5 mile long trains and had a top speed of 80mph.
I’m not surprised that Big Boy was eventually come to the strength competitions, I wonder about the Challenger 🤔
New Challenge?
How about you make a map of sherman-hill and give BigBoy a hometown revenge at 100%?
Union Pacific built their locos tough. 844 may be 'smaller', but size isn't everything. The Big Boys were meant to pull heavy loads great distances and not at high speed. Because 844 has speed it can pull heavy loads too, as it has a surplus of power for its size. A Big Boy is not necessarily in any hurry, but the FEFs can do any job.
Better engineering!!😁
I would like to say, that the big boy was made to haul freight at 60mph, where as the 844 was made to haul things at 120mph. The is a big difference between the two. The engineers were known for running the 844 like locomotives at more then 120mph
By American standards, these trains were pretty small. If they were pulling much more massive trains, big boy would win through strength. However, the FEF-3 (844) is still extremely strong, and also incredibly fast.
The Big Boys were strong enough to pull atleast 150 cars, maybe even 200+
Big boy got the grip and power big boy got 4 pistons maybe more behind the wheels idk
Question is at what speed.
@@chanshadeez2303 max speed of the bigboys was 83 mph, so with a heavy train i imagine track speed
Oliver I think I may have a solution to your problem of the engines exploding, just dont use the smokebox ones, I think you dud say that the smokebox engines have a tendency to explode when you give them too much power
Smokebox’s locomotives are designed to be as realistic as possible, meaning they will face explosions. So like if you’re wanting to get the best possible power test, you would have to use Smokebox’s locomotives. Maybe not making them race would cause them not to explode.
I love how the whistles sound on the 844 and 4014
They do sound good, but it’s kinda off-putting that they’re the same whistle type
@@valentinemorgenstern62 did you realize that big boys number is different
@@ansongallaway8656 I actually didn’t till u pointed it out lol
@@valentinemorgenstern62 wait I just realized that the 844 had white stripes on its wheels but I only see it when 844 is pulling a passenger train
Agree, the Hancock 3 chine long bells are amazing
The Union Pacific 844s real name is the Union Pacific FEF-3
So I saw a documentary on big boy they said that they were pulling over 5 miles long so I looked up how many train cars were in a mile and it was between 90 and 150 so I estimated at least 500 minimum car was what big boys were pulling for that reason they were built for
Hi LaZeR JET that was the best strength challenge ever and the up 844 is my favourite American steam train ever I like the sound I like when it runs and I like the speed
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I’ve seen the UP Big Boy 4014 in person and running. The shear size and amount of power it puts out is incredible.
I want you to do a strength challenge with Northern Pacific Z5 Yellowstone against Northern Pacific Z8 Challenger. Also, do a strength Challenge with Chesapeake and Ohio Kanawha 2716 versus Chesapeake and Ohio 2-6-6-6 No. 1616.
I don’t know who wins I’ll see
at the end of the video
Why didn't you put the UP Challenger?
There model of 844. But they are hard to find for a good price
Great race mate.
Now you've done the American Strength Challenge, how about the German Strength Challenge with German Steam Locomotives.
I lazer how are you today
2 famous locomotive racing.
Nice
New Strength Competition Request (U.s.a VS Europe):Union Pacific 844, Northfolk Southern SD70ACe, & Amtrak Acela Express VS Flying Scotsman, Class 125, & Tgv
This is my last suggestion for you to do before I die from Covid-19🤒🤒🤒🤒🤒🤒🤒🤒
I would have thought the big boy would’ve won because it’s stronger and can pull longer trains faster but the up 844 surprised me.
my favourite american steam engine is daylight
It is common is America to see 100-200 car trains
do strength challange daylight and polar express pls do it.your my favourite youtuber look i suscribed pls do this
Woah first time I'm 7th comment. In my fav YT, plz make a 2-2-0 Train or 0-2-2. If exists
Funny to know, smokebox is from the UK. You can change the whistle on the 844 pretty easy
Hahahaahahahh! 16 cars is a walk in the park for the Big Boys.
the only differnce between ts22 and ts21 is theres differnt routs, been like that for years. there just milking money
Why did you add smokebox. If you add the original Big Boy it will definitely win
how about doing a strength test (nyc hudson vs n&w 611 with this consist of freight cars).
an HO scale model of UP844 would cost about $300, but they do come with DCC sound, lights, and smoke
Big Boy has a top speed of 80 mph while an FEF3 could do 124 mph
Nah. The world record for a non-streamlined steam locomotive is 108 mph, held by a Gresley A3. FEF3s could feasibly handle close to 105 IMO though.
Oliver u are crazy u literally read my mind I was gonna comment this race wot
Imagine... Americans build things big, and Germans build things tough and durable... Hmm... I wonder... What happens when you combine American engineering with German engineering? What kind of locomotive would you get?
Tiger 1 and Panther Ausf. D transmissions: Tough and durbable you say?
@@the_earlybirf1170 I mean look at a lot of German tank designs... They're pretty durable and tough
@@the_earlybirf1170 So the question still stands, what kind of locomotive would you have if you combine American size and strength with German toughness and durability?
Aren’t LMS Princess Royals in Train Simulator?
yaaa you used the union pacific 844 maybe next make 844 85%
fun fact: big boy could pull a 2 mile long train and still goes 60mph
Actually, Big Boy had the potential to pull trains up to 5 1/2 miles long.
@@tristanperina1557 ig
I think it is going to be the big boy and also I love your channel!!
Big Boys can pull up to 120 cars sometimes more. I believe 1 of the 25 managed to pull 154 cars. Oh and the Big Boys get go 80mhp but they never usually hit that speed.
what 1 of the 25
Laserjet, amazing video, but may I ask you on quick question. Even though it's train simulator 2022, it is exactly the same map as the train simulator 2021 map.
Video idea: do another american race between the union pacific 844 vs the Milwaukee F7 steam locomotive
I would love to see new route reviews on train simulator 2022
I think speed will win so the UP 844 is gonna win.
For someone who had a grandpa who droven up big boy big boy is nun but strength that beast can pull over 200 cars by it self
One lucky grandpa that got to do that on the Rock Island. 50 cars is a lot for British trains laserjet usually does, but yeah nothing compared to American consists.
@@thedemolitionmuniciple but British y’all got some legendary steam locomotives
你可以弄中国蒸汽机车吗？
Now afence but I think Big boy will win
American big boy vs Australian big boy
Awesome vid, would love to hear the engines more tho. I don't have this game yet, I need a very good pc I think? One day.... :))
If you are going to do a strength challenge, programming the locomotives so that they don’t over work themselves would be best.
Edit: nevermind that’s exactly what he did lol
Second
nice race keep it up
Please do UP big boy vs Daylight.
I love big boy his my favourite 💓 engine but i cannot see it at here 😔
Do you like swedish trains?
The last time I saw the 844 it blew up
HOW DID YOU GET STEAM IN 2022.
Surprises always come😮
Can you do repton vs dominion of Canada
I want the 844 to win because it is faster than and almost strong as the Big Boy. Did you know that there were 25 Big Boys, 105 Challengers, and 45 FEF class 4-8-4s of the Union Pacific.
HAPPY FIRST RACE IN TS2022!
America always wins 🇺🇲
America big boy 😆🇺🇸
Could you do a German one I would be honoured to see that one
Maybe a BR 44 agains BR 41 or a BR 01 against any speed locomotives
stop sayin actchuaaly
Big boy is the strongest steam engine in the USA because it can Pull over 100 freight wagons by Ryley
First..
Congrats, you are actually first
I’d give you a crown but you probably already have one
Also road to 75K!
"the American trains always surprise me"....bruh....MOVE TO AMERICA! we have the worlds largest operating steam locomotive! I've been in the cab of 844, 4014, and 3985 while under steam, and got to do the thing that most people don't get to do: blow that whistle!
You should check if Uk locos can pull American length of trains
Don't beat yourself up, Lazer Jet, American steam engines aren't all that. I personally think the British steam engines are the best. I mean, you guys have The Flying Scotsman.
Lazerjet you should do train sim 2022 American steam locomotives race it would make my day better😎 big boy is kibg Of the rails😎😎
I don’t mind if engines are on 60 percent power. But when I drive the 844 on my Train Simulator computer, I’m sure that 844 will never blow up.
Great video
Last month smokebox just released his union pacific heavy challenger you should try that loco it's really amazing.
Hey Oliver do Flying Scotsman vs Union Pacific 844 both of them on 120% power
Union Pacific FEF 844 top speed is 120mph
But the union pacific big boy 4014 top speed is 80mph
UP big boy is just like the Dodge Charger (old 1969 one) and the 844 is the Dodge Dart (the original not the new one)
Big boy 😊
amazing video
Oliver whydontyou do a race with the union Pacific challenger vs the union Pacific 844
I got an idea for a strength test race
Union Pacific 844 and PRR S2 double header vs Big boy and union Pacific challenger
If pulling like 200 big boy win because 844 is more low hp than big boy the faster the train the more low hp.
The 844 would have probably not even got to 10mph because it was designed for passenger and speed not strength and freight .
I think that's why American trains have lots of power because they have to carry lots of freight while getting there quick to keep production moving along
Maybe you can do a strenght challenge with german steam engines
Stealth train? What's 844 gonna do, pull a secret scrapping operation on 4449 and 611?
If they where both going 100mph and the chanlinger gone 200 the chanalnger will crash but the big boy will not crash
100 percent it will go faster than big boy and it will go over 200 mph and it will derail LOL
Big boy
I’m off already subscribed LaserJet and I turned on your bellof notifications
In irl the big boy would still win because they ARE the strongest steam engine and was meant for massive trains of freight.
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Think about it this way though the big boy uses far more fuel despite making more tractive effort to negate the long consist
I did hit the like button LaserJet and I’m a big fan of your channel z
Lazer the only reason UP 844 won the race was because it is stream lined bib boy is not so to me that is the only reason why 844 won the race and not big boy
By the way the 844 is a fes class 3 and there are 1 and 2 and 844 was the last 1 of the fes class but it can go 90 mph on fright cars