So true! I started this journey by searching for information about INFP. Two months later, I’m now an ENFP and trying to re-type all my friends too... the further down the rabbit hole that I go, the more relevant the information! Mind blown! Though I’m not too surprised, seeing as how I am making this all up in my mind anyway ;)
I really admire your rawness you are not like other channels who invest on decoration of their video instead you invest ur energy on given us a way to in-depth psychology and also thanks for recommending books
I am an INTJ who is 35 years old. I was in the military for 8 years and now in the civilian world. Watching these videos are helping me to deal with everyone else. I am learning a lot about myself as well. My whole life people have always asked me what is wrong when I am quite or tell me that I look like my dog got ran over. I was always the outsider. Lol now it all makes sense. Thank you!
"Especially if your family is against your ego, they don't like your ego, because your ego is incompatible with them, right? Because of that incompatibility, it causes stress; and they don't accept your ego, they don't like you being for who you are." I see you've met my family, INTJ
Our journeys were shockingly similar. ENTP, Who first typed INFJ, then INTJ. I had an INTJ Dad who tried to require that I be like him and I even chose a TJ Dominated career. But, I didn’t really even care about type much until middle age. I was too busy working like an INTJ to make bank until I almost crashed. At THAT point, I figured I needed to figure out who I really am and do it, better. I admire you owning this at an age when you can shape the rest of your life with it.
For best lighting, you should choose a clear wall that is opposite to a relatively large window. That way when you record, you can use the natural light instead of artificial lighting.
Something just clicked. I have to drop myself into the role of the person I'm helping in order to see what's going on. Walk in another's shoes if you will. That just made incredible sense to me.
@@CSJoseph Well that's just an irrational thought to whoever perceives it that way and they are probably missing a lot of educational benefit if they're focused on a concept like that
I'm 45 seconds in and already feeling that amazement for those nintendos. DUDE. I was 8 when we got our first nintendo, 1988. I am so glad they still serve a purpose. Now, getting into the actual reason I'm watching!
are you planning a video to explain the hidden cognitive conexions like [Child - Nemesis] or [Inferior - critic]? im kinda curious how that relates to the origin of depression
So are you essentially saying that all these functions are “active” at once but our awareness of them is fractionally divided? Also, do you believe that the concept of individualization is also a good starter towards enlightenment? I find when I think of others intentions or the anxiety I feel when doing things in front of others (inferior Se and Ne nemesis), I find calmness when I think of them as just another part of my human experience, my own individual experience. This helps me not to take the experience so seriously and just observe things as they are. You said the purpose of INFJ’s was to improve people. What would be the purpose of INTJs, to improve systems? To improve others thinking about systems? To present a well thought out idea to a group in need? Sorry, for all the questions, I’m really interested in these lectures.
You got that right. I'm an INTJ and I'm constantly trying to improve traditions, families tendencies of sticking to the outdated ways over better ways, looking for the best way of doing things over settling for the good enough. I think "Improve Systems" is quite accurate as I'm also still immature in some ways and my Te Parent is still undeveloped... (I still havent studied Te parent)
from my personal observation, Xi functions synthesize something inside(inner world), while Xe functions absorb things from outside(external world) Q: this is how functions play out right? Extraversion = Sending Introversion = Receiving Q: the Inferior is fear & insecurity. If my 4th function is Si. I have a fear of experiencing new things, correct? But isn't Si memory/past? i like to think Si as a function that deals with info internally, by internally, i mean inside the mind. In addition with existing memories inside the mind (past experiences), Si manages these info/events internally. Nice video! keep up the good work :) (diagrams are amazing)
23:45 Looking back over the years, it has worked out like that. Young Fe inferior INTP, confused by feeling other's feelings, thinking they were mine, and broadcasting those back, even getting (for example) headaches and leg cramps from others, swamped by indifference and negativity (mine included). Maybe, in my early 30s, I knew that I had to be positive and broadcast My positive feelings, or else... Hard work! and, yes, very scary. Much easier now, except that's extraverted activity, especially around other people. I stiil need to be careful not to go beyond a time limit. I'm thinking a good start (a possible technique) is to always remember a question. What is that person feeling about what I'm broadcasting? for Fe inferior. For Fi demon, What am I feeling? At least a trickle of consciousness begins, and leads to my feelings having equal value as others. They are more important because that's where the rubber meets the road, my responsibility. When the oxygen mask drops in the airplane, put yours on first or else you'll never be able to help others.
The NJ comment about them being hyperfocused on things made me realize why me trying to pretend to sneak up on my ENFJ friend while he's on his phone never works. He's so focused on his phone that he literally doesn't see me.
Can you ever have more developed spectrum on 'fps' of a function lower in order then the one above it? If one works on that specific function. Or if one works on a lower function more ignoring the function above then can it supersede that function above? Or will it also naturally improve the function above?
Thank you for this work. I've not seen them divided into the eight sections like you have it. One thing I have not seen yet in your videos, (seen only about five of them) do you address the four types of personalities - NT, NF, SP, SJ? Also I had read that the N/S is how you gather information. The T/F are the preferred decision functions. Then if you order your outer world using decision functions you are a J If your decisions are made internally, and outer is for information gathering, then you are a P.
INTJ, "Mister Radiohead, first example," is the type with Ne Nemesis. This may account for the attribution of Ne as Collective Unconscious, as Ne's the top cognitive function of (INTJ) Unconscious. 5:30
@@CSJoseph Oops! I am sorry. I was thinking Dr Carl Jung was an INTJ. I editted the comment to preserve the suggestion that some one, perhaps an INXJ, had made the association of Ne and the Collective Unconscious.
Does this mean that you can only be in your introverted/extraverted ego/subconscious/shadow dependent on whether you're around other people or not? For example, as an ISFJ, am I only in my ego when I'm alone and do I switch to my ENTP subconscious or ESFP shadow when I'm with other people? I think it's more complicated than how I'm describing it now, but still curious.
Chase I want to make sure I'm grasping this as it's completely shifting my understanding of what cognitive functions were based on the prior videos in the season to this point. Going into this I had came to the conclusion that our ideal goal of enlightenment was to be able to utilize all 4 sides of the mind in harmony understanding when and how to use each one. Each side of the mind had strengths and weaknesses based on the type that was there but I thought that we'd generally want to stay in our Ego & our Subconscious primarily. I also thought that the Shadow/Unconscious & Super Ego primarily held the weaknesses associated with those type they represented because the nature of the names of the functions themselves. Now if I understand correctly, we can and should use the Shadow/Unconscious and we can use it in a positive manner it just takes much more energy to do so, and the same can be said about the Subconscious. Is this correct? Also, I get that we're all in tune with all 8 cognitive functions just on different frequencies in this hierarchical order from Hero down to Demon but we're sending and receiving these signals. Over the course of our life we're all exposed to events time that allow us to be able to develop these functions and understand them more, some quicker than others which is generally from top to bottom because we just have more awareness/connection to those functions and so it takes less time/events to be able to develop them. However, it isn't always the case that we develop them in the descending order, as we could develop the Child before our Parent for example, as the events in our lives didn't cause us to enter adverse situations allowing us to act responsible and grow and develop that function. Is this correct or is the latter half of this human nurture as opposed to nature? Again awesome video though and looking forward to watching all of these and undergoing the process of mastering this!
This explains it. I have an INTJ dad who's overworked and stress, he couldn't stand me as a little boy. I might have been hiding in my ISTJ shadow the whole first 26 years of my life, where I was incapable of making any substantial emotional connection with anyone. Only after a turning point did I transition into my ESTP ego. Does any of that make sense to you, Mr. Chase?
Hey Chase, INFP here. What about enlightenment/nirvana/awakening/samadhi? Can you elaborate more on that topic? It is by far, the most interesting topic to learn for me. Thank you very much.
VIDEO REQUEST: "INTP self development" (How can I as an INTP turn my Fe into a strong Function to reach self actualization? And how can I reach enlightenment? How can i become more attentive?)
go to your inner child (Si) and train it to become better. Learn self discipline and force yourself to do things even if you don't like them or if you think you will fail. Never place someone else's feelings above the truth and always be attentive. I think that is a good start. (Also, read No More Mr. Nice Guy by Dr. robert Glover)
I'm sorry if this is a little disorganized. I'm trying to get everything sorted out. 1- You mentioned that people can be forced to spend time outside of their ego for various reasons. Is it possible that if someone spends enough time outside of his/her ego that the other cognitive functions can become strong enough to rival the ego functions? 2- In other videos you've said that "conditions" such as autism and ADHD are not medical issues, but rather more prevalent personality types' intolerance to other personality types. Could these "conditions" be examples of given traits being excessively dominant in a given personality type? 3- How do you explain concepts such as narcissism and psychopathy? Does this relate back to a person being forced to spend time outside of their ego due to various external stimuli? Looking forward to your answers!
1. Depends, usually no, unless they have developed those sides of their mind. 2. Potentially but statistically no. I do not deny such conditions exist but there are far few than we realize. 3. Human nurture.
I'm ENFP. I have visual processing issues. I have severe ADHD (combined type). I have issues generalizing theoretical knowledge to apply to new situations. I have been diagnosed with Asperger's but it was removed. I have been diagnosed with BPD and DPD but it's been removed. I have an average IQ but can get extremely high marks on university and can come off as intelligent. I don't have any other cognitive, sensory, or psychological issues.
I'm ENFP. I have visual processing issues. I have severe ADHD (combined type). I have issues generalizing theoretical knowledge to apply to new situations. I have been diagnosed with Asperger's but it was removed. I have been diagnosed with BPD and DPD but it's been removed. I have an average IQ but can get extremely high marks on university and can come off as intelligent. I don't have any other cognitive, sensory, or psychological issues.
So explain to me how a person can channel to the four sides of a persons mind what is your position on this topic do you meditate? or go through a hypnosis session? as far as a logical standpoint you can't access all sides of your mind what is the method in how a person does that? are they involved in Tarot card reading? or a Ouija board ? just curious or are they involved in a sanyasis ? since we use only 10% of our mind so I'm quite skeptical of this topic do you need to clear your mind what method do you utilized ? the reason why our minds get tired because we are forcing the mind to focus on stuff that is not within our power to do that when it naturally focuses on the personality type that is wired in our minds . That's like saying a cat can be a dog or vise versa it's unfathomable to think that a person can do that . What is your reasoning on this topic ?
Common sense dictates that frames per second undeniably gets higher with time because compare it to leveling up in a game. The higher the level, the more experience you would need to get other next level. Therefore a higher frame rate. Either that or when you are at a higher level, the decisions you would be making would be at a "higher level" or just have more "weight" behind them, and would net you more experience anyway so there would be no need for a high consistent fps, but IMO it's both. You get more raw fps through decision making, depending on how "big" the decision, and your overall running frame rate upgrades with time. Or you were just born with a high frame rate as a child. And the whole "demon will eat your fellow man up" thing. Due to us losing our way with who we really are due to, like you aptly put, our soul being corrupted. I didn't let my soul get corrupted, my ego is too big to let the world program me. So I can control all 4 sides of my mind including demon, without it doing anything that I don't want it to do as it grows stronger and stronger but that's also because I have the Quran as a benchmark, to guide my progress. And it's the ultimate benchmark as it was divinely inspired. Because you see, Chase, the malignancy that exists inside our soul towards our fellow man is there for a reason. It needs to be CHANNELED properly. You know how some of the Prophets of God prayed that their people be destroyed because there was no hope for them and then God destroyed them? Yes. Perhaps, this is what the demon exists for. To destroy. When you absolutely need to. And remember when you said that the demon is a "reset" part of the mind so to speak? To start a new beginning? You see the connection? 😈 - ENTJ
One of my favorite lectures ✌️. However, I don't get why the nervous system comes from the sperm? and why it is important to know that to understand the cognitive functions?
Hey, I was wondering if you could tell me where your understanding of introversion and extraversion come from. Sending and receiving is an interesting idea for those, but I've always understood it as, "Merging," and, "Matching." Extroversion being merging into the outside world around you, and introversion being to match the object of focus (whether that originates internally or externally) against something internal. So for example, you see a tree. Wow! Look at that tree! It's right there! Look at the way the light reflects off the leaves, and every tiny detail of the bark! This is how I understood extraversion from psychological types.Merging with reality around you. Introversion, I understood to mean disconnection from the outside world, and working with information you have internally. So for the tree example, you might see a tree. It reminds you of a tree that was in your childhood home. This brings up (anxiety / warm feelings depending on the childhood.) You're no-longer connected with that literal tree in the outside world. You've disconnected with it and are focused on something internal. Obviously there's never a complete, full disconnect from the outside world. You do both at all times. But, it is possible to get pretty close! The Ni - Ti loop is a fantastic example of getting /close/ to a full disconnect. You perceive a pattern, or a pattern break from information you already have. You make an objective, impersonal judgement about that idea. The output of this is choice 1. You perceive a pattern, or a pattern break about choice 1. You make a conscious, objective choice about choice 1, creating choice 2. And so on. Note, these do not expand into multiple possibilities, they refine. Over, and over, and over again. This is how the Ni - Ti loop feels. Now how this relates, is that in this process loop of perception and judgement, you aren't actually taking in much information from the outside world at all. This can cause you to create complex, intricate thought structures in Ti with profoundly low amounts of information. The lack of evidence in itself can be used to do this. This is where the INFJ's, "They just know shit with like, no information," thing comes from. It's not literal, metaphysical luck. It's that pattern recognition is really powerful. When I'm like this, I can zone out for quite a while. But, I can still usually manage to drive home in one piece. I usually don't remember the drive, but I DO make it home which means obviously I was sensing information about the outside world and making choices about it, even though my active brain was engaged in an entirely internalized loop. Does this fit into your understanding of introversion and extraversion? Would you consider this accurate? Perhaps the a different angle view on the same object? Or would you consider this a flawed, inaccurate understanding?
The first paragraph being your explanation seems to be an explanation of Se vs. Si. The Se of the tree then it becomes totem with which a reference point is utilized to remember the past with Si. As far as my definition of introversion vs. extraversion, I prefer the Berensian way of approaching it which is initiating (extraversion) vs. responding (introversion).
C.S. Joseph I was using Se and Si as examples, yes! My understanding was that the same merging / matching relationship applied to the other three functions as well. I will read into Linda berens some and see if I can't get a better idea what's going on. I've always wanted to understand better how Extraverted functions (for example, Fe) are functioning when there isn't another human being around. I suppose you could feed it with information from the past or future, but surely someone's extraverted, present in the moment hero function has other methods of valuing than the values of others. That said, I can't think of another external source. Perhaps just circumstances? Anyhow, this gives me a good direction to go. Thanks!
Wow! Thats why, will power and thinking or famous talk of batman always inspired me somehow (entp s will power inspiration comes from unconscious intj(batman) not the joker(thats the darkness)❤ but yes i was intj for study sometimes i guess (its so anger with focus somehow) But Seeing the real intj Intj has the same difficulty (Intjs entp unconscious telling intj to be in maximum effort But low energy n low social awareness highly defected intj s focus, even intj finished the task intj end up been old face like by high anxiety unlike optimistic but not high willpower like entp I am good with entp personality after seeing intjs abnormality N intj cant do mini multitasking for money back like entp In a way both are same But yes Having almost conscious ni means Now i am too much sensitive to lie (entp intj both cant handle the lie) Cz its defects their will power Since we had one absent or low feeling function But funny thing is intj values by destructive truth sarcasm rather than other peoples bias
I was wondering if you could do a video on the arguments (theories) being sharing about the speeding up of the FPS. I was curious about this for example, seeing intelligent young children from India. Maybe this is more Carl Jung's territory but, I'd like to hear your thoughts, if you have any.
Have you heard of Leon from the Type Tips channel? He has some meaty stuff about MBTI, Socionics etc. One of his theories was that (at least for INFPs he mentioned (and INTPs)) our 6th function (Ni) is stronger than the 5th (Fe) and our 8th function (Ti) is stronger than the 7th (Se). So basically the order of our unconscious mind based on strength not the usual order would be Ni Fe Ti Se. Well it probably applies to all types. But I was wondering if you knew about that, and if the strength of the functions, not their order would effect the four sides of the mind and/or alters anything else basically. (Awesome fresh content btw!)
Reza Evergreen it sounds like he is taking about optimism vs. pessimism. A primary vs. secondary relationship for the functions. Please find the video in my Jungian cognitive functions playlist or the cognitive synchronicity playlist, I can’t remember which lol
I will, thank you! Oh really? Then these two channels are quite insightful about MBTI. I really suggest that Si experience lol. Michael Pierce's channel (specially his first videos) Type Tips channel Congrats on the exam😊
Damon Grey - MBTV (it's actually mainly an ENTJ called Chad though and not sure why he calls himself Damon lol) is also very good on MBTI. I have watched Leon at Type Tips and learnt a lot from it.
Hey Chase. So what if an INTJ aspires and is able to be in his/her ESFP subconscious very very often and without fear in a very natural way. Does the ESFP subconscious side of the mind change fps for the cognitive functions? I mean will the Se inferior then be upgraded from 25fps to 100fps, and the Fi child change from 50fps to 75 fps for the period of time he/her is aspiring in their subconscious? Or does the frames per second still stay the same? If you know what I mean..
26 for me as well. Im safe as my ESTP now. last few months have been great. edit: ironically im a very well rounded person. from all the fps in my less-than functions im sure.
The use of other parts of your mind requieres mental energy, is it because we mimic the functions, is it because focusing on them requires more energy per se, why is it exactly? PD: Sorry for my english and best regards!
This is a fantastic video. From what you said about your infj mentor. He reminds me of myself. I think your videos might be more effective if you were not alone while doing them. If there is any way i can help let me know
in the very beginning, you mention the camera. and that we/behind the camera can't see that its stacked on books/etc... this can correlate to all humans being in their conscious ego state, unable to see the other sides of themselves without a mirror or different perception. interesting you chose to speak about it in this sort of video.
Do you think we can spend too much time in the lesser functions if we're forced or by our own beliefs and thus become chronicly tired and sort of deprived of our resting state of the Ego etc. and by constantly using functions that take a lot of energy? And could we reverse that by allowing ourselves more time with the Ego?
Sort of working on our weaknesses yes, but not forgetting our strengths and get the most out of them? It then seems logical to me that if I can work within my ego-functions I can work longer and more efficient?
And then we can honestly say that we have a global cure for chronic fatigue and maybe even depression??! Or is this wishful INFP idealistic thinking lol? :)
I believe Ne is the collective unconscious. I said the other day if I was to ever have a pro wrestling company I’d position an entp on that writing team
This definition of 'Ni = willpower' is very odd to me and not sure where you've got it from. It can't be from your own experience if you're apparently an Ne dominant - it doesn't get anywhere near to illuminating the depth and mysticism of Ni doms though. Maybe you are linking it to the 'chart the course' interaction style. I still wouldn't say that's the real crux of the IN*J, rather merely a facet of the temperament. This is from Carl Jung's 'Collected Works Vol 6: Psychological Types - Ch X p.505': 'Intuition, in the introverted attitude, is directed upon the inner object, a term we might justly apply to the elements of the unconscious....Inner objects appear to the intuitive perception as subjective images of things, which, though not met with in external experience, really determine the contents of the unconscious, i.e. the collective unconscious in the last resort.' That's just a broad brush stroke portrayal of Ni's constantly changing perspectives but out of this inner world comes our ability to foresee implications, to be prescient and to see through people's facades, all of which for some reason you're saying that only Ne has the ability to do. But we wouldn't make a very good 'sage' or prophet kind of archetype if we were rubbish at pre-vision would we?! Person A: Go and see the sage in the village - he's always worth talking to. Person B: * Excitedly * If he's so wise, will he be able to tell me what's likely to happen with the situation I mentioned to you? Person A: No - he's crap at stuff like that but he can see his plans through really well! Person B: Oh. [Have used 'he' but obviously could be 'she' either] Again let's see what the man himself, Jung, has to say about Ni prescience: 'Since the unconscious is not just something that lies there, like a psychic caput mortuum, but is something that coexists and experiences inner transformations which are inherently related to general events, introverted intuition, through its perception of inner processes, gives certain data which may possess supreme importance for the comprehension of general occurrences: it can even foresee new possibilities in more or less clear outline, as well as the event which later actually transpires. Its prophetic pre-vision is to be explained from its relation to the archetypes which represent the law-determined course of all experienceable things.' (Collected Works Vol 6: Psychological Types - Ch X p.508) So it doesn't at all seem that the collective has an incorrect understanding of Ni as I've seen you comment before. Jung's explanation above is why I have always been so good at analysing and then making predictions - whether political or otherwise. However you seem to be defining 'prescience' in too narrow a way so that you set up strawman arguments like 'You [INFJ] can't see into other people's futures'. We have never claimed to do such a thing but neither do I think that I'm good at seeing into my OWN future as you say we can. I have pre-vision in a more general sense - let's say, situationally - e.g. I'll be able to accurately state what will happen to a society if such and such a thing continues. I actually predicted much of what's happening politically across the West, particularly in Western Europe, from about 15 years ago. Depressingly it's all turning out exactly as I said particularly in my own country (I'm not from the US). I can also say what will happen in other people's relationships if the parties continue with their current behaviours, which is why I'm good at giving sensible relationship advice. All this is what Jung's getting at above. Why do you think that INTJ (I knew he was one before he even stated he was) UA-camr StyxHexenHammer666 has 248 000 subscribers at the moment? Yes he is entertaining and has amusing idiosyncrasies but it's mainly because of his predictive/analytical capabilities with politics - he ends up being right about most things that he said from about a year back. He keeps saying things like 'Just you watch...' and 'You see if I'm not right about this'. I very much relate to that mindset as an INFJ. I've watched him since Trump got elected which he predicted more or less spot on state by state. Another huge part of being IN*J is that we have epiphanies and flashes of insight in which the answer to a problem just lands in our heads and we have no clue how it got there - we didn't go through a step by step process. Ni has been working in the background to solve it for us without us consciously thinking about it. Ne is essentially about having multiple ideas and going from subject to subject (novelty); this explains its creativity and its characteristic 'scattergun' nature. However Ni is actually the most metaphysical function of them all whilst, ironically, there being a rational explanation as to how it derives its conclusions. Here's a good article by Dr. A. J. Drenth which discusses our 'Ah-ha!' moments of insight and gut level sense that we 'just know' something - any IN*J will recognise these notions: personalityjunkie.com/10/introverted-intuition-ni/ I hope this post is useful to someone as on this channel about 80% of the complexity and interest of IN*Js is being left out and anything metaphysical and quirky is being credited to Ne which is laughable. And no I'm not in the ENFP side of my mind permanently as I don't act like an ENFP. IN*Js are not just about willpower/self-control - that would make a very boring person indeed. I wonder if some of the confusion is that people at large just don't realise what we can do because our intuition is introverted so you don't see it happening unlike Ne which is outwards directed - you can see Ne happening in real time. But it doesn't mean that Ni is not a fascinating and multifaceted process - it just can't be seen. Specifically related to this video: I personally have no problem multi tasking - most women are good at this due to evolutionary reasons. It's true that IN*Js reduce the multiple to the singular in terms of ideation but on a day to day practical level we don't have any problems juggling tasks particularly at work - we have multiple tabs open in our heads at once. I am actually a busy bee at work who works very quickly, doing the work of at least one and a half people 'cause I don't stand around talking like SF women. I wouldn't get anywhere in my job if I could only do one thing at a time seeing as I usually work alone in the whole building with no team mates and still have to ensure everything gets done. If what you said was true then IN*Js could barely even do the most low paid of jobs.
Fi critic, the post? Ni is subjective. Doesn’t mean it has no predictive power. Especially if the subject is very smart, like you. So does Si by the way. Heidegger (ISTJ) would BTFO Styx in metaphysics. -INTP
@Wool Well said. Observing a fact makes it more likely to happen. Ni can absolutely predict other's people future (their own even better I would say). It is a subjective understanding of the world. In contrast Ne users will remove themselves from their perception of metaphysics. Ne seeks pure ideation. Ni seeks singularisation. As an INTP I feel like my (or others) Ni will always "lose" to my (or others) Ne because of the infinitely emergent nature of the world. Ni singularisation can only be temporary or local. Even if it manifests in the physical world 100% (Which makes Ni immensely useful anyway). I would agree that say C.S Joseph doesn't understand Ni very well as a self-denying ENTJ. The most interesting Ni-Dom I have come across recently is JF Gariepy's prediction that humanity will wipe itself out of existence through genetic enhancements, and it has already begun. I highly recommend his show The Public Space here on youtube.
@@jonathanreave8558 the keyword to differenciate Ne from Ni is.. the Ne is more related to the outside world, the multi-option multi path that is still related to path of other people, other things OUTSIDE the Ne user while.. the Ni is more subjective, so it indicated w/ "aahaaaa"... "cliiing".. kinda "a best perceived (subjectively unconsciously) pop up inside the Ni user brain
Do you have any theories as to why one is primary? Before learning all this I thought that you should always just listen to your conscience or ego and the other sides didn’t matter since they didn’t provide me with the same energy. Why is it that you believe we should be pushing the energy though the sides consciously? Who is to say the egos aren’t enough with variety in a group and relationships and capability make up for the other missing parts? I would just like to understand how you came to this conclusion. I would be more than willing to practice it with the knowing of that info.
Dang no answers? Is there anywhere I can post this to get an answer? I am a member but I’m not sure if you are still able to be asked questions aside from like coaching and livestreams
Hi there! I am happy to encounter your question! For me, being aware of the existence and difference of the subconciousess, unciousness, and superego really redefines my understanding of how cognitive functions are laid out. The diagram of 4 sides of the mind with axis and orbit visually speaks for itself and helps people memorize it better. Being aware that there are 4 gateways is much more useful than just knowing 8 functions stack in a row in socionics, or only 4 functions in MBTI. Neither of these two demonstrates a practical way of how to decide which function should i improve on. It also sent a strong sense of peace knowing the frequency per second. It allows me to feel more self worth and stop being jealous when i see someone act way faster and better in an area (for example Se doms or parents)! It helps me feel a lot better about myself. It opens a door for me to create a straetegy for improving and creating the next steps or dealing with a setback :))!
@@Dani-je3fr Idk very much about socionics, but i don't think socionics talks about the existence of super ego which is described by Carl Jung. Knowing the existence of super ego really shines light on our awareness of our demonic behaviors. This awareness helps us tremendously in reflecting on ourselves if we made a big mistake like doorslaming and etc. One question in my head constantly before I found this channel was "How does each coginitive function works and what order? Can I control it intentionally? How strong is each cognitive function? If one of my cognitive function is listed more at the bottom am I doomed forever and will never be able to be good at it bc i was born this way?" Therefore, learning 4 sides of the mind is like having the ceiling/the cover of the box lifted so that I could see the sky 💙💛
@@Dani-je3fr I have something in my mind, too. If you have spare time or would like to have a short break mini game, could you please take a look at this :)? Just now I was on instagram and i saw many big visual development artists (not to call ppl out but like the animated life, loisv, tenyai and many many others were posting and reposting Banning AI Art). Although I am as much as concerned as them, I do feel like the narrative around AI Art is slightly leaning towards one of the two sides of an argument. Do you think this will bring more help for artists to advocate needs for stricter clearer copyright laws, or is this will bring more hatryed to the existence of AI Art in general? Please Don't feel Obligated if you don't want to look at this. I am just curious ,,0v0,,
In my opinion, we cannot reach an answer to this question just yet! So, when I am out there in the field I will tell the people I know about not going to an extreme point of argument💜SO DON'T do any massive social programming attempt okay 🤣!!!
As an INTP, getting stuck on your shadow or any other side of the mind is awful. When I was a child I was so focused to be - let's say - compatible with other people that I didnt even knew who I was; that's why people tell me a lot that i have changed now that I am actually 15 because I just discovered all of this so I am actually who I AM. Even though there is a LOT of fights I dont care, I will continue to be my INTP ass because thats what I am and how I actually feel comfortable. All of this just adds to the point that "parenting classes" if we can call it that or similars need to have this type of education; and not only in parenting, everywhere. Its too important, we cannot just simply ignore it or else the world is going to shit.
Oh nice to see another young fellow. I am 14 years old and I also just started taking on the traits of my type. As a child I possessed more of my Enfj shadow traits and spend more time around sensors, but you really shouldn’t care about people telling you, that you have changed. It’s no fun always pleasing others
Hmm but I was pretty stressed and depressed as a kid and I never became any type of extroverted version of myself...ESFP a few times but I quite enjoyed that. I never went into the ENTP mode imo. But I'm definitely more of an INTJ now or in the last 5 years, way more happy and comfortable and doing my own (natural) thing which lead me down typical INTJ paths. Wait...is it possible that I was in my ISFJ self destruct mode for actual years? Is that a thing? Ok I just watched your ISFJ cognitive functions vid, I think I was constantly fluctuating between INTJ and ISFJ during my traumatic childhood. I used to go into ISFJ and then become really sick from stress, which started affecting my heart and cholesterol and a bunch of weird shit, and then I'd go back into INTJ for a few more months and then the cycle would repeat. This is fascinating, I dunno if that's possible but that's my guess.
Perhaps I’m misunderstanding but it seems the more fps the demon gets the worse it becomes and the more troubles it causes? So how exactly would one develop or control the demon function. I believe you’re saying our demon functions would take over the world and ruin it so hypothetically speaking is it better to stay out of that half of our cognitive functions in order to avoid giving our demon more fps?
C.S. Joseph sorry I worded it wrong, I meant to say that over time the frames for the demon function add up and end up causing problems. Is there any way to tame or develop this function?
Hey there, I have a couple of questions. Why is the trickster function thought of as having any fps? Wouldn’t more likely be 0fps? Then the demon has some but less then the critic? Or perhaps the demon also has 0fps but is just lurking waiting to be triggered unless your able to operate in your unconscious? Or perhaps, the the fps of the lower functions can increase a little if maybe the person tries to develops aptitude in a facet of themselves they would not normally be good at? Oh, and if you are in your unconscious does that mean, for example, an INTJ’s demon switches from Si to Se ?
Thanks for the reply Monito. But, I’m sorry, I’m not certain what you mean by ‘on upwards in reverse’. Do you mean the function that is the ‘hero function’, (ie the first station when you’re in your ego), effectively then becomes the least effective function when the demon function is triggered?
@@webkelpie Correct, your functions do a flip with the 8th becoming the 1st, 7th becoming 2nd, 6th becoming 3rd and 4th and 5th switching. If your in control of your functions in that order you're more angelic, but if your functions are in control of you, you're more demonic in nature.
Ah, okay. So... If you’ve been pushed in to your demon state, does that mean if you then get ‘prodded’, (or possibly kicked), in your new 8th function, (the one that would have normally been your hero function), you’re likely to go straight back to your original ego setup, (although possibly in a bit of a more broken state than before)?
You used Kati (ESTP) as an example of high Se (Love Lu) because she was looking all over the place, now you’re saying Ne users look around more. Can u clarify
so in this video you say if you have too much experience in yer demon function then you would eventually only want to figure out how to undermined your fellow man........ buuuuuhhhhhhttt........ if you are using yer demon function when emulating as someone else wouldnt that just develop your demon function? and in turn giving it more "exp" which means speeds up the process of mans limit of said demon? just a thought i got whilst watching this for the first time.......
You said previously that a personality type can't change, did you mean that for example you, an Entp can't become an intp. Or that an Entp can't permanently reside in one of its 3 sub personalities permanently.
So let’s say an infj is extroverting with their enfp unconscious for example. When extroverting, how close are they to an actual enfp? Is there even a distinction between the two? And doesn’t that mess up compatibility because enfps are the least compatible with each other, but most compatible with infjs? So how am I supposed to attract enfps if I am extroverting as an enfp, or am I still close to my ego while extroverting? Because you say that when infjs extrovert they are either using their unconscious or subconscious, but can’t they just extrovert in their ego if they are compatible enough with someone? You talk about how it can be mentally draining to use the other sides of our mind, but you don’t exactly specify how well we can use them. Based on what I’ve learned, we could be just as enfp like as an enfp. But again wouldn’t that mess up compatibility, especially in a group setting where we are more inclined to use our enfp side? I guess my question is as an infj how close can I get to being an actual enfp or estp even for a short amount of time? Is it 5%? 20%? 90%? This seems extremely important to me in regards to compatibility
Crazy the most important videos are the least watched
This really is a good lecture.
So true! I started this journey by searching for information about INFP. Two months later, I’m now an ENFP and trying to re-type all my friends too... the further down the rabbit hole that I go, the more relevant the information! Mind blown! Though I’m not too surprised, seeing as how I am making this all up in my mind anyway ;)
@@stardust42 i just started this journey 😛,Any advice ......😁😁😁(guess am probably an INFP )
@@davidlee5462 What Is The Cognitive Attitude Of The Demon Function? | CS Joseph
So true. I am just going back through old videos I may have missed and I just had the thought 15 mins in that this is my favorite C.S. Joseph video.
I really admire your rawness you are not like other channels who invest on decoration of their video instead you invest ur energy on given us a way to in-depth psychology and also thanks for recommending books
thanks bro
Forever I have been Looking for indian name in comment.Finally one
@@vignesh8392 I've found plenty
I am an INTJ who is 35 years old. I was in the military for 8 years and now in the civilian world. Watching these videos are helping me to deal with everyone else. I am learning a lot about myself as well. My whole life people have always asked me what is wrong when I am quite or tell me that I look like my dog got ran over. I was always the outsider. Lol now it all makes sense. Thank you!
"Especially if your family is against your ego, they don't like your ego, because your ego is incompatible with them, right? Because of that incompatibility, it causes stress; and they don't accept your ego, they don't like you being for who you are."
I see you've met my family,
INTJ
Good comment. I might have this going on lol ENTP
You are doing the world a great favor
much appreciated
You should sell tshirts that say "that's not how it works" lol I'd buy😁
I always got excited when you took your little white board out .... NOW WOULD YA LOOK AT THAT.
I know right... moving up in the world?
not yet
Our journeys were shockingly similar. ENTP, Who first typed INFJ, then INTJ.
I had an INTJ Dad who tried to require that I be like him and I even chose a TJ Dominated career. But, I didn’t really even care about type much until middle age. I was too busy working like an INTJ to make bank until I almost crashed. At THAT point, I figured I needed to figure out who I really am and do it, better.
I admire you owning this at an age when you can shape the rest of your life with it.
I wish I had done so even sooner.
Just in use for remembering
Sending vs receiving
3:20-4:58
For example: 5:00-
Ne vs ni
8:00-9:47
9:49-11:12
Develop congintive functions
11:16-12:35 (for introverts)
Extroverts: 12:43-14:26
Mind part of the ego-
14:26-14:51
Being stuck in the sides of the mind/freedom
15:13-16:03
Why your sides develop or idk
17:58- 20:44
Human nature
20:52- 21:24-
Hero, parent, child, inferior
22:25-29:28
Every time he says "anyway" I hear "Ne-way"; the path of the ENTP :)
I like your videos about "general type theory" like this one the most. Because INTP :)
That's just pure free gold that need to be taken
Holy moly! So many personal revelations here 💕
Has an ENTJ I am wide aware of my self discipline to procrastinate while watching CS Joseph so I can feel good about learning something
Your low budget studio and illistrations/diagrams are the dopest! Awesome stuff Joseph
This was really great. I have been looking for a resource that explains “The Eight Cognitive Spectra”. Thank you.
Cameron Pickford glad you liked it, now if I can figure out the lighting then I would be off to the races
For best lighting, you should choose a clear wall that is opposite to a relatively large window. That way when you record, you can use the natural light instead of artificial lighting.
Something just clicked. I have to drop myself into the role of the person I'm helping in order to see what's going on. Walk in another's shoes if you will. That just made incredible sense to me.
This has unlocked so many doors for me. Thank you for connecting the dots with the super educational demonstration, great physical display.
Sure thing, it’s kind of lame that the community thinks that due to this video that I am trying to type sperm... it’s just a model.
@@CSJoseph Well that's just an irrational thought to whoever perceives it that way and they are probably missing a lot of educational benefit if they're focused on a concept like that
@@woody3476 much appreciated
Thanks this puts words to meanings I been having trouble telling people about what I’ve been studying so much.
I'm 45 seconds in and already feeling that amazement for those nintendos. DUDE. I was 8 when we got our first nintendo, 1988. I am so glad they still serve a purpose. Now, getting into the actual reason I'm watching!
This content is underrated and amazing
Omg... How come i miss this ....🥺🥺🥺,Thanks for this amazing video 😋😋😋
Thanks a LOT!
Great information as always.
Thank God I got the chance to watch this…
I can easily Unserstand you, also when my english isnt perfect because im German. Very interesting channel, probs
Can definitely relate. Have had to "suppress" my ego for years twice.
Your explanatory videos are my favorites.
this video is amazing, especially 15.40 the ego conflict within the family heirarchy. i also initially typed intj the first time too.
Thank you very much for all you teach us!
you are most welcome
Seriously, I felt something unpleasant in the middle of my chest when I learned that wasn't a balloon. I felt like my innocence was shuttered.
Ty for this video, it helped a lot with my understanding of this, though all of your videos are extremely helpful.
C. Senters you are most welcome
Lol, I'm an INFJ that has overdeveloped Ti from abuse too. People think I'm an ice queen and an INTJ because I'm super blunt.
The last part about functions teaming up was really good. Do you have a video on this topic? Would like to know more examples.
Season 5 playlist
I just referred a friend in Amsterdam to your blog for type coaching. I hope he contacts you.
Awesome, thanks!
are you planning a video to explain the hidden cognitive conexions like [Child - Nemesis] or [Inferior - critic]? im kinda curious how that relates to the origin of depression
yes
cool studio , keep up the good work ur amazing
So are you essentially saying that all these functions are “active” at once but our awareness of them is fractionally divided?
Also, do you believe that the concept of individualization is also a good starter towards enlightenment?
I find when I think of others intentions or the anxiety I feel when doing things in front of others (inferior Se and Ne nemesis), I find calmness when I think of them as just another part of my human experience, my own individual experience. This helps me not to take the experience so seriously and just observe things as they are.
You said the purpose of INFJ’s was to improve people. What would be the purpose of INTJs, to improve systems? To improve others thinking about systems? To present a well thought out idea to a group in need?
Sorry, for all the questions, I’m really interested in these lectures.
You got that right. I'm an INTJ and I'm constantly trying to improve traditions, families tendencies of sticking to the outdated ways over better ways, looking for the best way of doing things over settling for the good enough.
I think "Improve Systems" is quite accurate as I'm also still immature in some ways and my Te Parent is still undeveloped... (I still havent studied Te parent)
I'm so strongly an INTJ that the test could not possibly mess up with my result.
from my personal observation, Xi functions synthesize something inside(inner world), while Xe functions absorb things from outside(external world)
Q: this is how functions play out right?
Extraversion = Sending
Introversion = Receiving
Q: the Inferior is fear & insecurity. If my 4th function is Si. I have a fear of experiencing new things, correct? But isn't Si memory/past?
i like to think Si as a function that deals with info internally, by internally, i mean inside the mind. In addition with existing memories inside the mind (past experiences), Si manages these info/events internally.
Nice video! keep up the good work :)
(diagrams are amazing)
Dave Chen the answers to your questions are yes
23:45 Looking back over the years, it has worked out like that. Young Fe inferior INTP, confused by feeling other's feelings, thinking they were mine, and broadcasting those back, even getting (for example) headaches and leg cramps from others, swamped by indifference and negativity (mine included).
Maybe, in my early 30s, I knew that I had to be positive and broadcast My positive feelings, or else... Hard work! and, yes, very scary. Much easier now, except that's extraverted activity, especially around other people. I stiil need to be careful not to go beyond a time limit.
I'm thinking a good start (a possible technique) is to always remember a question. What is that person feeling about what I'm broadcasting? for Fe inferior.
For Fi demon, What am I feeling? At least a trickle of consciousness begins, and leads to my feelings having equal value as others. They are more important because that's where the rubber meets the road, my responsibility. When the oxygen mask drops in the airplane, put yours on first or else you'll never be able to help others.
I was shocked to learn that wasn't a balloon.
Great video!
So.. as an INTJ, Am I developing my Se just by performing in front of others?
Great video, very informative.
Love you csj
When someone meditates, do they end up hearing each function "talk" to them and understand them clearly?
Chase - Please explain active listening in regards to the different frequencies.
The NJ comment about them being hyperfocused on things made me realize why me trying to pretend to sneak up on my ENFJ friend while he's on his phone never works. He's so focused on his phone that he literally doesn't see me.
Can you ever have more developed spectrum on 'fps' of a function lower in order then the one above it? If one works on that specific function.
Or if one works on a lower function more ignoring the function above then can it supersede that function above? Or will it also naturally improve the function above?
Thank you for this work. I've not seen them divided into the eight sections like you have it.
One thing I have not seen yet in your videos, (seen only about five of them) do you address the four types of personalities - NT, NF, SP, SJ? Also I had read that the N/S is how you gather information. The T/F are the preferred decision functions. Then if you order your outer world using decision functions you are a J If your decisions are made internally, and outer is for information gathering, then you are a P.
INTJ, "Mister Radiohead, first example," is the type with Ne Nemesis. This may account for the attribution of Ne as Collective Unconscious, as Ne's the top cognitive function of (INTJ) Unconscious. 5:30
Jung is an INTP.
@@CSJoseph Oops! I am sorry. I was thinking Dr Carl Jung was an INTJ. I editted the comment to preserve the suggestion that some one, perhaps an INXJ, had made the association of Ne and the Collective Unconscious.
Does this mean that you can only be in your introverted/extraverted ego/subconscious/shadow dependent on whether you're around other people or not? For example, as an ISFJ, am I only in my ego when I'm alone and do I switch to my ENTP subconscious or ESFP shadow when I'm with other people? I think it's more complicated than how I'm describing it now, but still curious.
Chase, question: How is the nemesis function both the seat of [negative] fear and simultaneously an optimistic function?
Thanks
19:39 AKA the Aeldari
I love this. Thanks!
Chase I want to make sure I'm grasping this as it's completely shifting my understanding of what cognitive functions were based on the prior videos in the season to this point. Going into this I had came to the conclusion that our ideal goal of enlightenment was to be able to utilize all 4 sides of the mind in harmony understanding when and how to use each one. Each side of the mind had strengths and weaknesses based on the type that was there but I thought that we'd generally want to stay in our Ego & our Subconscious primarily. I also thought that the Shadow/Unconscious & Super Ego primarily held the weaknesses associated with those type they represented because the nature of the names of the functions themselves. Now if I understand correctly, we can and should use the Shadow/Unconscious and we can use it in a positive manner it just takes much more energy to do so, and the same can be said about the Subconscious. Is this correct?
Also, I get that we're all in tune with all 8 cognitive functions just on different frequencies in this hierarchical order from Hero down to Demon but we're sending and receiving these signals. Over the course of our life we're all exposed to events time that allow us to be able to develop these functions and understand them more, some quicker than others which is generally from top to bottom because we just have more awareness/connection to those functions and so it takes less time/events to be able to develop them. However, it isn't always the case that we develop them in the descending order, as we could develop the Child before our Parent for example, as the events in our lives didn't cause us to enter adverse situations allowing us to act responsible and grow and develop that function. Is this correct or is the latter half of this human nurture as opposed to nature?
Again awesome video though and looking forward to watching all of these and undergoing the process of mastering this!
answer is yes, but the order of the functions doesn't matter, you need to look at the functions like electrons and protons. Or a solar system.
This explains it. I have an INTJ dad who's overworked and stress, he couldn't stand me as a little boy. I might have been hiding in my ISTJ shadow the whole first 26 years of my life, where I was incapable of making any substantial emotional connection with anyone. Only after a turning point did I transition into my ESTP ego.
Does any of that make sense to you, Mr. Chase?
OMG, just continued the vid and realize that I have the exact same timeline, just that I'm 3 years younger!
Hey Chase, INFP here.
What about enlightenment/nirvana/awakening/samadhi? Can you elaborate more on that topic?
It is by far, the most interesting topic to learn for me.
Thank you very much.
grow and mature to your higher potential.
VIDEO REQUEST: "INTP self development" (How can I as an INTP turn my Fe into a strong Function to reach self actualization? And how can I reach enlightenment? How can i become more attentive?)
go to your inner child (Si) and train it to become better. Learn self discipline and force yourself to do things even if you don't like them or if you think you will fail. Never place someone else's feelings above the truth and always be attentive. I think that is a good start. (Also, read No More Mr. Nice Guy by Dr. robert Glover)
Where was the Demon function discussed in this video?
which type has the most destructive demon function?
ENTPs and ENFPs will straight up beat people with Se. I guess ENTJs and ESTJs can be very hurtful with Fe.
You fancy now!
I'm sorry if this is a little disorganized. I'm trying to get everything sorted out.
1- You mentioned that people can be forced to spend time outside of their ego for various reasons. Is it possible that if someone spends enough time outside of his/her ego that the other cognitive functions can become strong enough to rival the ego functions?
2- In other videos you've said that "conditions" such as autism and ADHD are not medical issues, but rather more prevalent personality types' intolerance to other personality types. Could these "conditions" be examples of given traits being excessively dominant in a given personality type?
3- How do you explain concepts such as narcissism and psychopathy? Does this relate back to a person being forced to spend time outside of their ego due to various external stimuli?
Looking forward to your answers!
1. Depends, usually no, unless they have developed those sides of their mind. 2. Potentially but statistically no. I do not deny such conditions exist but there are far few than we realize. 3. Human nurture.
I'm ENFP. I have visual processing issues. I have severe ADHD (combined type). I have issues generalizing theoretical knowledge to apply to new situations. I have been diagnosed with Asperger's but it was removed. I have been diagnosed with BPD and DPD but it's been removed. I have an average IQ but can get extremely high marks on university and can come off as intelligent. I don't have any other cognitive, sensory, or psychological issues.
I'm ENFP. I have visual processing issues. I have severe ADHD (combined type). I have issues generalizing theoretical knowledge to apply to new situations. I have been diagnosed with Asperger's but it was removed. I have been diagnosed with BPD and DPD but it's been removed. I have an average IQ but can get extremely high marks on university and can come off as intelligent. I don't have any other cognitive, sensory, or psychological issues.
When the INFJ goes into NiTi loop mode, does his shadow side also goes in the same direction simultaneously ? NeTe mode ?
So explain to me how a person can channel to the four sides of a persons mind what is your position on this topic do you meditate? or go through a hypnosis session? as far as a logical standpoint you can't access all sides of your mind what is the method in how a person does that? are they involved in Tarot card reading? or a Ouija board ? just curious or are they involved in a sanyasis ? since we use only 10% of our mind so I'm quite skeptical of this topic do you need to clear your mind what method do you utilized ? the reason why our minds get tired because we are forcing the mind to focus on stuff that is not within our power to do that when it naturally focuses on the personality type that is wired in our minds . That's like saying a cat can be a dog or vise versa it's unfathomable to think that a person can do that . What is your reasoning on this topic ?
There should be way more views on this video
Yeah it’s one of the most important ones
Common sense dictates that frames per second undeniably gets higher with time because compare it to leveling up in a game. The higher the level, the more experience you would need to get other next level. Therefore a higher frame rate. Either that or when you are at a higher level, the decisions you would be making would be at a "higher level" or just have more "weight" behind them, and would net you more experience anyway so there would be no need for a high consistent fps, but IMO it's both. You get more raw fps through decision making, depending on how "big" the decision, and your overall running frame rate upgrades with time. Or you were just born with a high frame rate as a child.
And the whole "demon will eat your fellow man up" thing. Due to us losing our way with who we really are due to, like you aptly put, our soul being corrupted. I didn't let my soul get corrupted, my ego is too big to let the world program me. So I can control all 4 sides of my mind including demon, without it doing anything that I don't want it to do as it grows stronger and stronger but that's also because I have the Quran as a benchmark, to guide my progress. And it's the ultimate benchmark as it was divinely inspired.
Because you see, Chase, the malignancy that exists inside our soul towards our fellow man is there for a reason. It needs to be CHANNELED properly. You know how some of the Prophets of God prayed that their people be destroyed because there was no hope for them and then God destroyed them? Yes. Perhaps, this is what the demon exists for. To destroy. When you absolutely need to. And remember when you said that the demon is a "reset" part of the mind so to speak? To start a new beginning? You see the connection? 😈
- ENTJ
Indeed, you may enjoy the season called "how to master your demon function" in the members area dedicated to that!
But wouldn't intj's appear as informative when thier extraverting since they go to thier shadow
The intj ego would still be direct, if they are in their shadow (entp) then they operate under entp rules. Entp is informative.
Oh shit, in the stu, w/ the laser, whippin’ out the big guns.. haha, but for real, I do like it. 👍
One of my favorite lectures ✌️. However, I don't get why the nervous system comes from the sperm? and why it is important to know that to understand the cognitive functions?
Is an extrovert their shadow when alone for enough time?
yes
Hey, I was wondering if you could tell me where your understanding of introversion and extraversion come from. Sending and receiving is an interesting idea for those, but I've always understood it as, "Merging," and, "Matching." Extroversion being merging into the outside world around you, and introversion being to match the object of focus (whether that originates internally or externally) against something internal.
So for example, you see a tree. Wow! Look at that tree! It's right there! Look at the way the light reflects off the leaves, and every tiny detail of the bark! This is how I understood extraversion from psychological types.Merging with reality around you. Introversion, I understood to mean disconnection from the outside world, and working with information you have internally. So for the tree example, you might see a tree. It reminds you of a tree that was in your childhood home. This brings up (anxiety / warm feelings depending on the childhood.) You're no-longer connected with that literal tree in the outside world. You've disconnected with it and are focused on something internal.
Obviously there's never a complete, full disconnect from the outside world. You do both at all times. But, it is possible to get pretty close! The Ni - Ti loop is a fantastic example of getting /close/ to a full disconnect. You perceive a pattern, or a pattern break from information you already have. You make an objective, impersonal judgement about that idea. The output of this is choice 1. You perceive a pattern, or a pattern break about choice 1. You make a conscious, objective choice about choice 1, creating choice 2. And so on. Note, these do not expand into multiple possibilities, they refine. Over, and over, and over again. This is how the Ni - Ti loop feels. Now how this relates, is that in this process loop of perception and judgement, you aren't actually taking in much information from the outside world at all. This can cause you to create complex, intricate thought structures in Ti with profoundly low amounts of information. The lack of evidence in itself can be used to do this. This is where the INFJ's, "They just know shit with like, no information," thing comes from. It's not literal, metaphysical luck. It's that pattern recognition is really powerful. When I'm like this, I can zone out for quite a while. But, I can still usually manage to drive home in one piece. I usually don't remember the drive, but I DO make it home which means obviously I was sensing information about the outside world and making choices about it, even though my active brain was engaged in an entirely internalized loop.
Does this fit into your understanding of introversion and extraversion? Would you consider this accurate? Perhaps the a different angle view on the same object? Or would you consider this a flawed, inaccurate understanding?
The first paragraph being your explanation seems to be an explanation of Se vs. Si. The Se of the tree then it becomes totem with which a reference point is utilized to remember the past with Si. As far as my definition of introversion vs. extraversion, I prefer the Berensian way of approaching it which is initiating (extraversion) vs. responding (introversion).
C.S. Joseph I was using Se and Si as examples, yes! My understanding was that the same merging / matching relationship applied to the other three functions as well. I will read into Linda berens some and see if I can't get a better idea what's going on. I've always wanted to understand better how Extraverted functions (for example, Fe) are functioning when there isn't another human being around. I suppose you could feed it with information from the past or future, but surely someone's extraverted, present in the moment hero function has other methods of valuing than the values of others. That said, I can't think of another external source. Perhaps just circumstances?
Anyhow, this gives me a good direction to go. Thanks!
Time stamp for myself. Answers question at 22:23
Wow! Thats why, will power and thinking or famous talk of batman always inspired me somehow (entp s will power inspiration comes from unconscious intj(batman) not the joker(thats the darkness)❤ but yes i was intj for study sometimes i guess (its so anger with focus somehow)
But
Seeing the real intj
Intj has the same difficulty
(Intjs entp unconscious telling intj to be in maximum effort
But low energy n low social awareness highly defected intj s focus, even intj finished the task intj end up been old face like by high anxiety unlike optimistic but not high willpower like entp
I am good with entp personality after seeing intjs abnormality
N intj cant do mini multitasking for money back like entp
In a way both are same
But yes
Having almost conscious ni means
Now i am too much sensitive to lie (entp intj both cant handle the lie)
Cz its defects their will power
Since we had one absent or low feeling function
But funny thing is intj values by destructive truth sarcasm rather than other peoples bias
I was wondering if you could do a video on the arguments (theories) being sharing about the speeding up of the FPS.
I was curious about this for example, seeing intelligent young children from India.
Maybe this is more Carl Jung's territory but, I'd like to hear your thoughts, if you have any.
will get to this one day
Does anyone else agree that the visual is definitely an incentive to rewatch his videos if needed???
Have you heard of Leon from the Type Tips channel? He has some meaty stuff about MBTI, Socionics etc. One of his theories was that (at least for INFPs he mentioned (and INTPs)) our 6th function (Ni) is stronger than the 5th (Fe) and our 8th function (Ti) is stronger than the 7th (Se).
So basically the order of our unconscious mind based on strength not the usual order would be Ni Fe Ti Se. Well it probably applies to all types.
But I was wondering if you knew about that, and if the strength of the functions, not their order would effect the four sides of the mind and/or alters anything else basically.
(Awesome fresh content btw!)
Reza Evergreen it sounds like he is taking about optimism vs. pessimism. A primary vs. secondary relationship for the functions. Please find the video in my Jungian cognitive functions playlist or the cognitive synchronicity playlist, I can’t remember which lol
Also, the only UA-camr’s on MBTI I know of are DaveSuperPowers, TWFP, and EJ Arandee
I will, thank you!
Oh really? Then these two channels are quite insightful about MBTI. I really suggest that Si experience lol.
Michael Pierce's channel (specially his first videos)
Type Tips channel
Congrats on the exam😊
Reza Evergreen thanks, just found out I have to do another one
Damon Grey - MBTV (it's actually mainly an ENTJ called Chad though and not sure why he calls himself Damon lol) is also very good on MBTI. I have watched Leon at Type Tips and learnt a lot from it.
Hey Chase. So what if an INTJ aspires and is able to be in his/her ESFP subconscious very very often and without fear in a very natural way. Does the ESFP subconscious side of the mind change fps for the cognitive functions? I mean will the Se inferior then be upgraded from 25fps to 100fps, and the Fi child change from 50fps to 75 fps for the period of time he/her is aspiring in their subconscious? Or does the frames per second still stay the same? If you know what I mean..
26 for me as well. Im safe as my ESTP now. last few months have been great.
edit: ironically im a very well rounded person. from all the fps in my less-than functions im sure.
The use of other parts of your mind requieres mental energy, is it because we mimic the functions, is it because focusing on them requires more energy per se, why is it exactly?
PD: Sorry for my english and best regards!
It's harder to do, the nueural pathways just aren't as well worn as our ego.
Can all functions work together? Or just some functions to specific functions.
Watch season 5 playlist on this channel
This is a fantastic video. From what you said about your infj mentor. He reminds me of myself. I think your videos might be more effective if you were not alone while doing them. If there is any way i can help let me know
Austin Williams I’ll be doing Q&A sessions soon
C.S. Joseph. Cool
in the very beginning, you mention the camera. and that we/behind the camera can't see that its stacked on books/etc... this can correlate to all humans being in their conscious ego state, unable to see the other sides of themselves without a mirror or different perception. interesting you chose to speak about it in this sort of video.
Nick Biller aye, that and Nintendo’s.
i have my own theory on a universal unconscious which can make direct contact with the personal unconscious
Do you think we can spend too much time in the lesser functions if we're forced or by our own beliefs and thus become chronicly tired and sort of deprived of our resting state of the Ego etc. and by constantly using functions that take a lot of energy? And could we reverse that by allowing ourselves more time with the Ego?
Sort of working on our weaknesses yes, but not forgetting our strengths and get the most out of them? It then seems logical to me that if I can work within my ego-functions I can work longer and more efficient?
And then we can honestly say that we have a global cure for chronic fatigue and maybe even depression??! Or is this wishful INFP idealistic thinking lol? :)
I want to meet another INFJ. Preferably my age, 17. And all infjs struggle with relationships? Giving others an experience.
22-year-old INFJ here. Being a Romantic idealist that is on a different wavelength with everyone else is a recipe for trouble.
@@thereaIitsybitsyspider here is another 21 year old infj
I believe Ne is the collective unconscious. I said the other day if I was to ever have a pro wrestling company I’d position an entp on that writing team
This definition of 'Ni = willpower' is very odd to me and not sure where you've got it from. It can't be from your own experience if you're apparently an Ne dominant - it doesn't get anywhere near to illuminating the depth and mysticism of Ni doms though. Maybe you are linking it to the 'chart the course' interaction style. I still wouldn't say that's the real crux of the IN*J, rather merely a facet of the temperament.
This is from Carl Jung's 'Collected Works Vol 6: Psychological Types - Ch X p.505': 'Intuition, in the introverted attitude, is directed upon the inner object, a term we might justly apply to the elements of the unconscious....Inner objects appear to the intuitive perception as subjective images of things, which, though not met with in external experience, really determine the contents of the unconscious, i.e. the collective unconscious in the last resort.'
That's just a broad brush stroke portrayal of Ni's constantly changing perspectives but out of this inner world comes our ability to foresee implications, to be prescient and to see through people's facades, all of which for some reason you're saying that only Ne has the ability to do. But we wouldn't make a very good 'sage' or prophet kind of archetype if we were rubbish at pre-vision would we?!
Person A: Go and see the sage in the village - he's always worth talking to.
Person B: * Excitedly * If he's so wise, will he be able to tell me what's likely to happen with the situation I mentioned to you?
Person A: No - he's crap at stuff like that but he can see his plans through really well!
Person B: Oh.
[Have used 'he' but obviously could be 'she' either]
Again let's see what the man himself, Jung, has to say about Ni prescience:
'Since the unconscious is not just something that lies there, like a psychic caput mortuum, but is something that coexists and experiences inner transformations which are inherently related to general events, introverted intuition, through its perception of inner processes, gives certain data which may possess supreme importance for the comprehension of general occurrences: it can even foresee new possibilities in more or less clear outline, as well as the event which later actually transpires. Its prophetic pre-vision is to be explained from its relation to the archetypes which represent the law-determined course of all experienceable things.' (Collected Works Vol 6: Psychological Types - Ch X p.508)
So it doesn't at all seem that the collective has an incorrect understanding of Ni as I've seen you comment before. Jung's explanation above is why I have always been so good at analysing and then making predictions - whether political or otherwise. However you seem to be defining 'prescience' in too narrow a way so that you set up strawman arguments like 'You [INFJ] can't see into other people's futures'. We have never claimed to do such a thing but neither do I think that I'm good at seeing into my OWN future as you say we can. I have pre-vision in a more general sense - let's say, situationally - e.g. I'll be able to accurately state what will happen to a society if such and such a thing continues. I actually predicted much of what's happening politically across the West, particularly in Western Europe, from about 15 years ago. Depressingly it's all turning out exactly as I said particularly in my own country (I'm not from the US). I can also say what will happen in other people's relationships if the parties continue with their current behaviours, which is why I'm good at giving sensible relationship advice. All this is what Jung's getting at above. Why do you think that INTJ (I knew he was one before he even stated he was) UA-camr StyxHexenHammer666 has 248 000 subscribers at the moment? Yes he is entertaining and has amusing idiosyncrasies but it's mainly because of his predictive/analytical capabilities with politics - he ends up being right about most things that he said from about a year back. He keeps saying things like 'Just you watch...' and 'You see if I'm not right about this'. I very much relate to that mindset as an INFJ. I've watched him since Trump got elected which he predicted more or less spot on state by state. Another huge part of being IN*J is that we have epiphanies and flashes of insight in which the answer to a problem just lands in our heads and we have no clue how it got there - we didn't go through a step by step process. Ni has been working in the background to solve it for us without us consciously thinking about it.
Ne is essentially about having multiple ideas and going from subject to subject (novelty); this explains its creativity and its characteristic 'scattergun' nature. However Ni is actually the most metaphysical function of them all whilst, ironically, there being a rational explanation as to how it derives its conclusions. Here's a good article by Dr. A. J. Drenth which discusses our 'Ah-ha!' moments of insight and gut level sense that we 'just know' something - any IN*J will recognise these notions: personalityjunkie.com/10/introverted-intuition-ni/
I hope this post is useful to someone as on this channel about 80% of the complexity and interest of IN*Js is being left out and anything metaphysical and quirky is being credited to Ne which is laughable. And no I'm not in the ENFP side of my mind permanently as I don't act like an ENFP. IN*Js are not just about willpower/self-control - that would make a very boring person indeed. I wonder if some of the confusion is that people at large just don't realise what we can do because our intuition is introverted so you don't see it happening unlike Ne which is outwards directed - you can see Ne happening in real time. But it doesn't mean that Ni is not a fascinating and multifaceted process - it just can't be seen.
Specifically related to this video: I personally have no problem multi tasking - most women are good at this due to evolutionary reasons. It's true that IN*Js reduce the multiple to the singular in terms of ideation but on a day to day practical level we don't have any problems juggling tasks particularly at work - we have multiple tabs open in our heads at once. I am actually a busy bee at work who works very quickly, doing the work of at least one and a half people 'cause I don't stand around talking like SF women. I wouldn't get anywhere in my job if I could only do one thing at a time seeing as I usually work alone in the whole building with no team mates and still have to ensure everything gets done. If what you said was true then IN*Js could barely even do the most low paid of jobs.
Fi critic, the post?
Ni is subjective. Doesn’t mean it has no predictive power. Especially if the subject is very smart, like you. So does Si by the way. Heidegger (ISTJ) would BTFO Styx in metaphysics.
-INTP
@Wool Well said. Observing a fact makes it more likely to happen. Ni can absolutely predict other's people future (their own even better I would say). It is a subjective understanding of the world. In contrast Ne users will remove themselves from their perception of metaphysics. Ne seeks pure ideation. Ni seeks singularisation.
As an INTP I feel like my (or others) Ni will always "lose" to my (or others) Ne because of the infinitely emergent nature of the world. Ni singularisation can only be temporary or local. Even if it manifests in the physical world 100% (Which makes Ni immensely useful anyway).
I would agree that say C.S Joseph doesn't understand Ni very well as a self-denying ENTJ.
The most interesting Ni-Dom I have come across recently is JF Gariepy's prediction that humanity will wipe itself out of existence through genetic enhancements, and it has already begun. I highly recommend his show The Public Space here on youtube.
Can't take you seriously with that dumb looking profile pic
@@jonathanreave8558 the keyword to differenciate Ne from Ni is.. the Ne is more related to the outside world, the multi-option multi path that is still related to path of other people, other things OUTSIDE the Ne user while.. the Ni is more subjective, so it indicated w/ "aahaaaa"... "cliiing".. kinda "a best perceived (subjectively unconsciously) pop up inside the Ni user brain
lol you changed your profile pic apparently.
Anyway you're ISFP.
Do you have any theories as to why one is primary? Before learning all this I thought that you should always just listen to your conscience or ego and the other sides didn’t matter since they didn’t provide me with the same energy. Why is it that you believe we should be pushing the energy though the sides consciously? Who is to say the egos aren’t enough with variety in a group and relationships and capability make up for the other missing parts? I would just like to understand how you came to this conclusion. I would be more than willing to practice it with the knowing of that info.
Dang no answers? Is there anywhere I can post this to get an answer? I am a member but I’m not sure if you are still able to be asked questions aside from like coaching and livestreams
Hi there! I am happy to encounter your question! For me, being aware of the existence and difference of the subconciousess, unciousness, and superego really redefines my understanding of how cognitive functions are laid out. The diagram of 4 sides of the mind with axis and orbit visually speaks for itself and helps people memorize it better. Being aware that there are 4 gateways is much more useful than just knowing 8 functions stack in a row in socionics, or only 4 functions in MBTI. Neither of these two demonstrates a practical way of how to decide which function should i improve on. It also sent a strong sense of peace knowing the frequency per second. It allows me to feel more self worth and stop being jealous when i see someone act way faster and better in an area (for example Se doms or parents)! It helps me feel a lot better about myself. It opens a door for me to create a straetegy for improving and creating the next steps or dealing with a setback :))!
@@Dani-je3fr Idk very much about socionics, but i don't think socionics talks about the existence of super ego which is described by Carl Jung. Knowing the existence of super ego really shines light on our awareness of our demonic behaviors. This awareness helps us tremendously in reflecting on ourselves if we made a big mistake like doorslaming and etc. One question in my head constantly before I found this channel was "How does each coginitive function works and what order? Can I control it intentionally? How strong is each cognitive function? If one of my cognitive function is listed more at the bottom am I doomed forever and will never be able to be good at it bc i was born this way?" Therefore, learning 4 sides of the mind is like having the ceiling/the cover of the box lifted so that I could see the sky 💙💛
@@Dani-je3fr I have something in my mind, too. If you have spare time or would like to have a short break mini game, could you please take a look at this :)? Just now I was on instagram and i saw many big visual development artists (not to call ppl out but like the animated life, loisv, tenyai and many many others were posting and reposting Banning AI Art). Although I am as much as concerned as them, I do feel like the narrative around AI Art is slightly leaning towards one of the two sides of an argument. Do you think this will bring more help for artists to advocate needs for stricter clearer copyright laws, or is this will bring more hatryed to the existence of AI Art in general? Please Don't feel Obligated if you don't want to look at this. I am just curious ,,0v0,,
In my opinion, we cannot reach an answer to this question just yet! So, when I am out there in the field I will tell the people I know about not going to an extreme point of argument💜SO DON'T do any massive social programming attempt okay 🤣!!!
As an INTP, getting stuck on your shadow or any other side of the mind is awful. When I was a child I was so focused to be - let's say - compatible with other people that I didnt even knew who I was; that's why people tell me a lot that i have changed now that I am actually 15 because I just discovered all of this so I am actually who I AM. Even though there is a LOT of fights I dont care, I will continue to be my INTP ass because thats what I am and how I actually feel comfortable.
All of this just adds to the point that "parenting classes" if we can call it that or similars need to have this type of education; and not only in parenting, everywhere. Its too important, we cannot just simply ignore it or else the world is going to shit.
Oh nice to see another young fellow.
I am 14 years old and I also just started taking on the traits of my type. As a child I possessed more of my Enfj shadow traits and spend more time around sensors, but you really shouldn’t care about people telling you, that you have changed. It’s no fun always pleasing others
Hmm but I was pretty stressed and depressed as a kid and I never became any type of extroverted version of myself...ESFP a few times but I quite enjoyed that. I never went into the ENTP mode imo. But I'm definitely more of an INTJ now or in the last 5 years, way more happy and comfortable and doing my own (natural) thing which lead me down typical INTJ paths.
Wait...is it possible that I was in my ISFJ self destruct mode for actual years? Is that a thing?
Ok I just watched your ISFJ cognitive functions vid, I think I was constantly fluctuating between INTJ and ISFJ during my traumatic childhood. I used to go into ISFJ and then become really sick from stress, which started affecting my heart and cholesterol and a bunch of weird shit, and then I'd go back into INTJ for a few more months and then the cycle would repeat. This is fascinating, I dunno if that's possible but that's my guess.
Perhaps I’m misunderstanding but it seems the more fps the demon gets the worse it becomes and the more troubles it causes? So how exactly would one develop or control the demon function. I believe you’re saying our demon functions would take over the world and ruin it so hypothetically speaking is it better to stay out of that half of our cognitive functions in order to avoid giving our demon more fps?
No the fps doesn't change, the fps is just bandwidth, its when you focus on that channel, aka the demon channel or spectra.
C.S. Joseph sorry I worded it wrong, I meant to say that over time the frames for the demon function add up and end up causing problems. Is there any way to tame or develop this function?
Ashley Nunez yes, slowly feed it over time without letting it out of its cage
Hey there, I have a couple of questions.
Why is the trickster function thought of as having any fps? Wouldn’t more likely be 0fps? Then the demon has some but less then the critic? Or perhaps the demon also has 0fps but is just lurking waiting to be triggered unless your able to operate in your unconscious?
Or perhaps, the the fps of the lower functions can increase a little if maybe the person tries to develops aptitude in a facet of themselves they would not normally be good at?
Oh, and if you are in your unconscious does that mean, for example, an INTJ’s demon switches from Si to Se ?
When you're in the super-ego your demon would be 100fps and on upwards in reverse.
well said
Thanks for the reply Monito. But, I’m sorry, I’m not certain what you mean by ‘on upwards in reverse’. Do you mean the function that is the ‘hero function’, (ie the first station when you’re in your ego), effectively then becomes the least effective function when the demon function is triggered?
@@webkelpie Correct, your functions do a flip with the 8th becoming the 1st, 7th becoming 2nd, 6th becoming 3rd and 4th and 5th switching. If your in control of your functions in that order you're more angelic, but if your functions are in control of you, you're more demonic in nature.
Ah, okay. So...
If you’ve been pushed in to your demon state, does that mean if you then get ‘prodded’, (or possibly kicked), in your new 8th function, (the one that would have normally been your hero function), you’re likely to go straight back to your original ego setup, (although possibly in a bit of a more broken state than before)?
Hey, I entered my email address and name at csjoseph.life, but I didn't get anything in my email.
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You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
You used Kati (ESTP) as an example of high Se (Love Lu) because she was looking all over the place, now you’re saying Ne users look around more. Can u clarify
It’s hyper reactivity vs. hyper proactivity
C.S. Joseph muchas gracias senior
so in this video you say if you have too much experience in yer demon function then you would eventually only want to figure out how to undermined your fellow man........ buuuuuhhhhhhttt........ if you are using yer demon function when emulating as someone else wouldnt that just develop your demon function? and in turn giving it more "exp" which means speeds up the process of mans limit of said demon? just a thought i got whilst watching this for the first time.......
You said previously that a personality type can't change, did you mean that for example you, an Entp can't become an intp. Or that an Entp can't permanently reside in one of its 3 sub personalities permanently.
Both, with the exception of one case of extreme physical head trauma where parts of of the individual's brain was severely damaged.
So let’s say an infj is extroverting with their enfp unconscious for example. When extroverting, how close are they to an actual enfp? Is there even a distinction between the two? And doesn’t that mess up compatibility because enfps are the least compatible with each other, but most compatible with infjs? So how am I supposed to attract enfps if I am extroverting as an enfp, or am I still close to my ego while extroverting? Because you say that when infjs extrovert they are either using their unconscious or subconscious, but can’t they just extrovert in their ego if they are compatible enough with someone? You talk about how it can be mentally draining to use the other sides of our mind, but you don’t exactly specify how well we can use them. Based on what I’ve learned, we could be just as enfp like as an enfp. But again wouldn’t that mess up compatibility, especially in a group setting where we are more inclined to use our enfp side? I guess my question is as an infj how close can I get to being an actual enfp or estp even for a short amount of time? Is it 5%? 20%? 90%? This seems extremely important to me in regards to compatibility
Me thinking this is bs but still listening anyways