I Have A Bad Feeling About This | My Relationship With Star Wars Before Episode IX
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- Опубліковано 25 лис 2024
- At this point, it seems the question isn't IF The Rise of Skywalker is going to suck, but how much. How the hell did it come to this?
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I feel like I should have prefaced my comments about the Special Editions. I don't like them in the traditional sense. They're weird, awkward movies. Lucas changed all these things that didn't need to be changed about the OT, but didn't fix any of the actual mistakes the films had and that's bizarre. I don't like them for being good movies, but I must admit, they are fascinating to watch in a "What in the world was he thinking when he did this?" kind of a way. They're cinematic curiosities that I can't help by wonder about in the same way that when you see a car wreck on the side of the highway, you can't help but slow down and look at as you pass by.
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My twitter: / therealfk9
#StarWars #TheRiseOfSkywalker
The Last Jedi: "I am the worst possible Star Wars movie in existence!"
Rise of Skywalker: "Your overconfidence is your weakness!"
Rasmus Jørgensen - Rise of Skywalker: Hold my beer...
More like "Hold my Beer"..
I think the beer fell after the premier flop LMAO
Rise of Skywalker: hold my laser sword
@@HeartcoreMitRA Meanwhile in the real Uk! ;)
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Fun fact: The Last Jedi script is being used as an example of bad writing a few college classes 😆
Seriously!? Lol If it's true, then that's great!
Lololol.....do star wars Episode 8 is that bad where teachers are using the last Jedi as an example of bad writing..... yikes...yeah Disney screwed up because people never really stoop that low for star wars .now Thanks to Rian Johnson... everyone has stoop that low
I think the 3rd season of Heroes should be mandatory writing class material.
@@BlazingOwnager what happened in that show?
@@bbriggs7409 I once was going to do a youtube video about that season and started making notes about the 1st Episode, having seen the whole season. I was up to, and I am not exaggerating for comic effect, an average of 4 major plot holes per minute. PER MINUTE.
The season opens on a character telling a person they know can time travel "There's no time." That's the high point..
Honestly thorias, as a fan of yours, spoil the hell out of that movie for me.
Do it, dooooooo it!
Go watch EFAP episode #60. They go through the entire leaked script, taking turns. It's hilariously awful - there are 5 separate fetch quests *in the first act of the film*, and 3 separate lightsaber duels *before the end of Act 2*.
Be warned: the livestream is *very long* and there's loads of commentary (the video itself is almost 12 hours long but the leaks are only about 3 hours of it). I promise it's amazingly entertaining, but its several hours of 5-6 semi-buzzed guys reading an incredibly stupid leaked plot summary.
@@aztec0112
Dew it*
@Lt. Colonel Tanya von Degurechaff You forgot there where reshoots that's why it's different
@Lt. Colonel Tanya von Degurechaff Also I'm really starting to enjoy Tanya the Evil.
I left the theater feeling miserable after the Last Jedi.
MMORPGer05 my friend made me watch it. I regret it. Terrible movie
I am pretty sure I would have had a much better feeling going into a casino and getting robbed out of hundreds of dollars, than when I left out after seeing The Last Jedi.
Same. I was in a state of shock
MMORPGer05 I felt that way but on episode 7 the force shitwakens 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤬🤬🤬🤬
I feel you. Everyone in line for Last Jedi was talking about theories and you could feel the excitement. After the movie it was like we all left a very sad funeral.
All because one small roundheaded "man" didn't want to be predictable.
Dude so true. I saw it at the Imax screening opening night.Waiting in line to go in was so epic.
When it finally ended - no one said a word. It was...kinda sad honestly.
Expectations = Subverted
RJ wins again.
To be honest, I think it was always gonna end that way, whether RJ came onboard or not. We all went in to ep7 with theories about how the films would link, how we might see Luke or Leia on Coruscant, showing us the political structure post Ep6, the new Jedi temple and their philosophies, merging the trilogies. What we got was something completely standalone that wa a retelling of ep4. We seriously were given the empire and rebellion with new names. After that I went in to ep8 with zero expectations cos I knew it wasn't being made for the fans, it was a bunch of new films made for the casual cinema goers with lots of reimagined moments for them to get nostalgic over. Clone Wars and Rebels are made by fans, FOR fans and expand Lucas' mythology. The movies are just the old films with a 21st century coat of paint.
@@garym6315 lol no. I fucking WISH TLJ was Empire Strikes Back with a new coat of paint.
I appreciate your sacrifice with seeing the Rise Of Skywalker so I don't have to. I'm not giving Disney any of my money after how they've treated Star Wars fans.
Ace Just wait to see what they do with Fox Entertainment...
I saw the original movie in the theater when it came out in the '70s when I was 12. Up until then, I was into futuristic scifi like "Star Trek", but seeing "Star Wars" was truly a transformative experience for me. It was genuinely one of the few magical moments I've ever had watching a movie. "The Last Jedi" was the exact antithesis of that.
its heartbreakign for me. I HAVE A twin, so finding out about luke and leia being related in return of the jedi as a little kid was a big deal for us. It was! and now......i don't know.
Who played Luke and Lakes between you to in the day lol
@@ambuknight luke and lakes?
@@asarishepard8171 I meant Leia dam Autocorrect
@@ambuknight LOL I figured :P I was Luke, she was leia. we're both girls but I was always the boy in our games. thats just how it went lol.
They are still twins...
I was suspended for 2 days in High School for wearing a "Star Wars Sucks" Tshirt in the 80's.. I guess I was just ahead of my time.
You wore it at the wrong timeline. This could have been the decade.
You know what was fun in my english class in middle school we got to read the screen play for empire strikes back. Then after we got done with our reading we got to watch the empire strikes back in class. Oh god that was so fun. It's one of the few things I remember from that long ago.
Sounds awesome. No way schools could get away with that now (because of the whole hand-chopping). I have a friend who worked in schools and once got in trouble for showing kids something that had guns... Droopy cartoons.
On opening night of TROS, I plan on going to the theater and watching Jumanji.
I think I'll go see "Richard Jewell"
I am looking forward to Witcher above all else, then Jumanji, rise of skywalker isn't even on my list at this point.
Hope you did. The Jumanji sequel was 100X better.
To hell with Feige, he'd have his Mary Sue Brie Larson star in his Star Wars.
chromosome boo Exactly
100% wholehearted agreement. Good statement Thorias. I have no intention of seeing this movie in theaters. I will wait until i can see it for free online.
Ironically, Kennedy has fired half of the directors that she has hired, and somehow kept Johnson.
Probably the most telling argument that her choices are driven by ideology not any less odious motives/stupidity. She loved it and already had Rian set up for a new trilogy before even seeing the critical/audience reaction plus allowed him to entirely derail JJ's original ideas (as lackluster and manufactured as those ideas were to start with they were at least only mediocre rather than utterly detestable in their messaging/ disrespect for the original trilogy and its legacy).
Couple of those directors went on to make the award-winning spiderverse movie.... Make of that what you will.
Nun Ya because her goal is literally to willfully sabotage star wars. I’m not kidding.
thats because he lets her use her strapon on him
@@DarranKern I am not certain that that was her goal. It's possible, but I tend to think that she is just stupid. Johnson on the other hand, I 100% believe that he trashed the franchise on purpose.
Amen brother. That is exactly how I feel. My only worry with Feige is that Marvel isn't Star Wars. One of the issues with TLJ was the marvel type humor at times which didn't really work well.
MY main worry about Feige is that he'll jam Bree Larson into it somewhere...
God i hate that corny "Marvel" style humor,,,it's just cringe to me
The kind of humor that was ham fisted already in the sequels (both of them so far) and "THEY FLY NOW" isn't any better, so it would be an improvement honestly.
The only real problem is him ham fisting Brie fucking Larson as Ashoka... That would kill it even more.
The people who pay money to go see Star Wars at this point *deserve the Star Wars they get.*
Nodnods
I'm going to go. I want to see the train wreck.
@@GoblinKnightLeo i will just get the reviews. At least i get to share the pain while laughing with others.
WhiteKnight Leo pirate the trainwreck
@@DarranKern i may wait for some discord server to stream it, so I can meme along fellow phantom menace bros.
Buying a ticket to Ep IX is alright considering the glorious angry review we'll get. TFA was my last SW movie. GL.
Me, too. You know the saying, "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."
The first films I loved was Star Wars. Every weekend I would put in one of the three for a solid year. I spent all my allowance on toco bell when they had ep1 early release stuff. My last hollow web costume was Luke. I was illiterate until I was ten years old and then I heard there were Star Wars books and within 2 months I taught myself how to read just so I could read them. I got a library card only for Star Wars, it was through Star Wars I found anime and video games. The only movie to this day I have seen twice in theaters is the force awakens. I used to talk for hours with friends about Star Wars and be happy. I stayed up late after work, with college finals the next morning just to go see TLJ opening night. And then I have spent 3 years mourning the loss of the legends that made me who I am.
It’s very simple. Star Wars died in 2012 it just took me 4 years to learn this. I miss Star Wars. The last Jedi was an abomination. And I never thought I could hate Lucas films or Disney, but that is what TLJ and how they didn’t muzzle ruin Johnson when they should have did to me.
This is my favorite video of yours...and I echo everything you've said! Hail the Fandom Menace!
It's like he's reading my mind. I left the theater with a hollow...emptiness that slowly built to a boiling fury at what they had just done to my childhood, culminating when I saw the trailer for "Solo": the Millenium Falcon, Chewbacca, Han.....and I felt....nothing. They had made me apathetic to STAR WARS. And I will never forgive them for that. #NotMyLukeSkywalker
Thank you. That is exactly what I've been feeling for the last two years.
as an original fan,yes stood in line for hours and saw the first and all of the original over 8 times!! They have killed all that made it so great and in the ashes there is no recovery!! I saw the first when I was 13 years old and now that Iam 54 I will not see the last so as to keep my memories whole.
They stopped getting my money after Force Awakens. I will not tolerate a garbage Mary Sue character.
Same here.... except I did cave in to Disney+ to watch THE MANDALORIAN because I want Disney to know I want to see SW like that instead.
I won't fund shows like Ms. Marvel. I hate that character, she's white hot garbage. They keep trying to push her as the most popular character in Marvel. They bald face lie about it non-stop. Her comics do not sell, she is not popular, and they still try to shove her into every conceivable medium they possibly can to try and force her into popularity. Only thing is, people hate it. They tried to fool everyone into thinking you get to play the Avengers in a game called Marvel Avengers: A Day. Then they show gameplay and you are stuck playing Ms. Marvel and trying to get everyone back together...... -_- So no, they will not get my money. I have been pirating the Mandalorian. It is a good show.
The icing on the cake was When Kennedy said they had no source material to work with. There is close to 400 novels to go to. I know because I've read most of them. P.S. I have seen The Last Jedi only once myself. Garbage.
Last jedi is the only star wars movie I have seen just one time.
I even saw Solo a second time.
Rise of skywalker is likely going to be the only star wars movie I wont see at all.
It honestly kinda bums me out.
OMFG that pissed me off so much ! No source material ?? What about hundreds of books, comics, games, etc... ???
Yeah. They had so much to pick from. Though I get the reason they declared it not canon. They could still have picked the best parts and kept those. Or rewrite them to fit. After all they already brought back Thrawn.
Maybe they could have done that if they made the movie 20 years ago, but not really now, not unless they wanted to have a whole new cast, sure they could have made references to some things, but a lot of it was just fan fiction that George Lucas didn't even agree with, he just let happen cause, money.
My best Christmas present would be seeing this waman fired! See my Demise of Skywalker video - scheduled to air on the 19th Dec (UK open date). Please watch!!!!
The way you feel about last jedi is the way I feel about superman. Hollywood takes too long to get things right. Hell george Lucas had it wrote lol and they turned it into mess.
Star wars was second to Super for me also so I feel your pain brother
@@stevus23 thank you bro
Your story legitimately made me cry. I felt very similarly before & after watching TLJ. The last few years have been rough for Star Wars fans. I've come to reject the Disney canon and won't see their latest aTROSity. But Lucas-era Star Wars will always have a special place in my heart. (She wrote, while sitting in her Star Wars pyjamas, waiting for a package with old PT & OT merchandise.) May the Force be with you!
5:07 - DUDE. I... I'm there. I'm... right there.
The taping of the flashlight to build a light saber made me give an instant like to this video.
Maybe they should change the Title: Star Wars Episode IX "Grit your teeth and get it done".
Episode IX: "And You Thought The Last One Was Bad"
GEORGE LUCAS :
" I'M ABOUT THE FANS "
DISNEY :
" WE'RE ABOUT THE MONEY "
Andrew Blanchard Sad but true
Episode 3 REVENGE OF THE SITH was and will always be the last TRUE episode of the true SW ever created and one of the best most darkest episode in the whole saga i say is even darker than empire, but that is my honest point of view
you may want to rewatch the prequel once again with renewed eyes man
also truly sorry about your dad
May the Force stay forever strong for all those who passed
The first memory i ever have watching a movie was from a star wars movie. I feel exactly the same as you. My wife cant believe i am not going to the premiere of the rise of skywalker. I refuse to be dissapointed again.
I watched the original Star Wars as a child. It's effects and adventurous story blew me away.
I'd read the story ahead of time but it's impact was more than anything I could have imagined.
As I got older, I appreciated the next few movies, but never became a dyed in the wool fan as such.
The prequels I could have lived without but they didn't dim my memories of the first three movies.
I played various Star Wars video games including KOTOR et al. These connected me more with that universe in a philosophical way and I think I appreciated the universe more as a consequence of that. It was at that point I would enjoy the idea of being a force wielding person, rather than simply watching it on a big screen.
When a new set of movies were announced, I was quietly optimistic and interested to see where they would go, as I knew they had an immense landscape of possibilities to play with.
I came out of Rogue One thinking it was a good filler of a movie, okay but nothing special. Then the force awakens came out and I was very disappointed with it. It seemed to lack any imagination, and a planetary weapon that needed to suck energy out of a star made a nonsense of any kind of physics, so it immediately took me out of the movie. Solo's death was telegraphed so far in advance that it wasn't a surprise at all, nor was it interesting in any way. It was all very two dimensional to me. It was mediocre but didn't influence my appreciation of Star Wars as a whole.
I held out some optimism that they would do something more interesting and profound with The Last Jedi. It really wouldn't have been hard to do. When I got to see it, it was a mockery of a Star Wars movie. It's corrupted so many ideas within the universe that I don't think it's recoverable. The story was stupid, with idiot characters doing idiot things for idiot reasons. Any warmth I had for Stars Wars and it's characters died with that movie.
I am not going to see the next one. I will watch the reviews to find out how badly they finished this franchise.
I do appreciate you taking the time to watch it so I don't have to. I'm sorry they did this to something you loved. It's unforgivable as far as I'm concerned.
sigmata0 Well said man. I agree with everything you said. Star Wars is my childhood. I grew up with it and still love it to this day. The prequels aren’t as good as the originals and that’s obvious but at least they had a story. Plus the ideas and world building were amazing. Episode 3 was overall my favorite prequel film. I mean come on, Order 66, Anakin becoming Vader. Pure amazingness. 1 and 2 were ok. 2 was the weakest but again, the story is what mattered. And KOTOR was the best game out there. Good times. When I first saw the two sequel films, I was just full of disappointment. Identity politics and all that just ruined it for me. And with TROS coming out, idk if I even wanna go see it. I want it to be good. I do. But I just don’t want my childhood getting any worse.
"Maybe I'll do a stream and rant about it..."
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Go on EFAP!!!
@Jarvi Blue How do you do, fellow Massive? Have you watered your Jeb today?
When you’re passionate about something really deeply seeing it mutilated/destroyed
can only come with grief and anger.I applaud you and those who do speak up about these things, cause the things we love lately have been morphed into something barely recognizable and it’s heartbreaking 😔
I feel sorry for our future generations blissfully ignorant of the mediocre entertainment they must consume
.................. may god have mercy on their souls🙏🏾
You perfectly articulated the feelings of many.
Im so glad your a Star Wars fan, I could really see your enthusiasm when talking about the relationship you have/had with Star Wars
Only thing that could fix this trilogy is a good ol' "What a terrible nightmare" scene at the end.
I feel your pain because I can personally identify with all the emotions you've talked about. Thanks for eloquently expressing the pain so many of us feel!
Mine was Luke hanging upside down in the ice cave. It was in the theater. I was 4. We didn't own a TV at the time, and I didn't even know what a movie was until that day. I remember walking out of that theater because the whole world seemed different, and I felt like anything was possible.
The very first thing I remember was watching Star Wars (ANH) in theaters when I was 5.
Me too at age 5. It was mind blowing and magical.
I’m glad to see this side of you. Everyone has their side of the story to tell.
My feelings exactly! We're assuming that Ruin Johnson wasn't writing exactly what KK wanted and helped write.
This is a complete disaster. Thanks Bob Igor. You've allowed Kathleen Kennedy to destroy a franchise and flush billions down the bowl.
It is really nice to see/hear you with positive stories and not be in character for one of these videos. You often have plenty of valid points, but there was an honesty and vulnerability to this UA-cam video that really lets you shine. I wouldn’t mind seeing more of these.
I feel ya, man. I’m 61 and saw the opening of Star Wars at a theatre (completely by accident). I shared Star Wars with my kids. I have realized that things have just changed, as they tend to do. Society has changed. I would keep your great memories, embrace the old Star Wars you loved, and cherish them as they are. Separate them from the crap Disney has done; just let it go. I have needed to let it go, along with Star Trek and every other franchise I loved recently. I don’t know why they did it but they did.
I look forward to the fan backlash from Episode IX!
First of all, I am so sorry about your dad. Having all this stuff happening prior to TLJ and then watching that atrocity on top must have been soulcrushing. As a relatively new viewer, if you can't bring yourself to watch Episode IX, that's fine with me. You don't have to torture yourself for your viewers. Kate Kane is horrible enough.
But kudos to you for commiting to this. You'd have to pay me a handy sum of money to get me to watch that film.
man it's so sad,, i can't stop thinking about what this new trilogy could've been .. iimagine luke having his own jedi academy and facing up a new sith order, just like the game. that would've been amazing, the possibilities were endless.. but look what they ended up doing, it's really sad
Now you took the words right out of my mouth,
every painful, agonizing word!
....
I've been saying it for a long time, the only way Disney Star Wars will get me back as a fan is if they hold a press conference and announce that with maybe the exception of Rogue one all their movies are being erased from Cannon and they are starting over again.
My earliest Star Wars memory was sitting in the first one and Darth Vader shows up. My dad started giggling, leaned over to me and said "I think he's the bad guy". I still get a laugh out of that after all these years.
I have great memories of all of them, even the prequels. The new ones? Heart breaking.
I don't expect you read all of this, but I completely understand and sympathize.
I've grown up a fan of Star Wars, and it wasn't because of my parents, in fact, they weren't fans at all. My mother didn't care for those type of films and my dad was a sport and fitness junkie. I became a fan, weirdly enough, through the Phantom Menace, which my cousin had on VHS and I used to watch it whenever he brought it over my gran's house. I also had the original trilogy, but I hadn't grown appreciative of older films at that point in my life. I actually saw the original trilogy as more of a TV series to the point I'd ask to watch "Star Wars: The Movie" and was disappointed when they'd put the original trilogy on, not understanding I wanted to watch the Phantom Menace.
Years later, Attack of the Clones releases and I watched it with my uncle. I really enjoyed it and started to understand the continuity of it all (though I was confused why Obi-Wan looked like Qui-Gon and Anakin looked like Obi-Wan). I went back to the original trilogy and realized how amazing they were and became a fan. The years went by, Revenge of the Sith came and went , I loved it. I started to miss the franchise, but not enough to watch the Clone Wars which I at that point didn't like and I also became more critical of films and turned on both the Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones. But then as I approached High School graduation and Disney announced new movies, I got excited again.
I was excited as is, but in 2014 I started college and made the best friends I ever had, including my best friend whom I still see regularly. It was these friends that made the hype for the Force Awakens truly something special. I had grown up bullied for my mental disabilities, liking superheroes and preferring to stay in doors reading and watching films instead of going outside and playing the same sports that everybody else did. But college gave me friends that A. Were more mature and B. Were on the same course as me, thus naturally had a love for film, like me. We saw the original teaser trailer in 2014 and for the entirety of 2015 were abuzz about the Force Awakens. We had theories and ideas which we thought would have been great, but we also wanted to be surprised. "Counting down the seconds" was our motto. We even forced our class to leave late for a field trip because the tickets went on sale that very day and we bought those midnight tickets as soon as possible because we knew it would sell out. It had dawned on me how much of a cultural significance it had. It wasn't just a movie, it was an event.... It was an experience. I went back and watched all of the Clone Wars and loved it, and if Rebels was any indication, Star Wars was in safe hands with Disney. Even though Battlefront (which I did not play due to lack of campaign and I'm not an online gamer) was severely starved for content.
December 17, 2015. I woke up never more excited to see a movie, my grandfather came to pick me up and drove me to my best friends house. And on that day, me and my 5 friends watched all 6 released Star Wars films. Such an amazing day filled with nothing but good memories. I miss that day. We laughed and joked, discussed theories, we OF COURSE ordered pizza, best day of my life. And Return of the Jedi (My favorite) ended, we were cutting it short, but still got in one last group hug. We made it. We jumped in the cars, drove down to the theater and the line was huge..... Luckily we were at the front somehow (surprising since we cut it so short, fanboy determination I guess), everyone was dressed up, the atmosphere was incredible. Then the movie began, continued and ended. 3 of us hated it, 3 of us loved it. Luckily I was in the latter. (I felt so sorry for my friend who liked it because I was staying with my best friend, the other guy who loved it, and he had to go home with 3 people who spent the early hours of the morning complaining). Since then, one of those friends gave it a second watch and changed his mind and loved it. And whilst I do admit it has problems, mainly the copy and paste of a New Hope, I still saw it as just a massively fun film.
We were still abuzz about Rogue One and my best friend actually thought it was gonna be even better than the Force Awakens since the films announcement, although the hype couldn't beat the hype we had for TFA. He was excited for the war movie angle, I was excited by the director seeing that I'm a huge Godzilla fan. We graduated and went our separate ways to different universities, but we still decided to see each other in 2016 and still had some theories we'd share for Rogue One. We again got midnight tickets, even the one who wrote off Disney Star Wars after TFA gave in. We went together and, again, mixed results. The people who didn't care for TFA actually loved Rogue One, but this time me and my best friend were the ones who came out going "meh". It had a lot to like, the third act final battle and the Vader slaughter scene. But the first act was a mess, the second act was boring and the biggest problem, there was absolutely no character in that film.
2017 was filled with some excitement, not hype persay, but I liked the trailers for the Last Jedi enough, but there was no more counting down the days, no more fan theories. It was now just another movie. But when me and my best friend tried to arrange another group midnight showing, some of my friends were unavailable and the guy who loathed TFA, we knew was never gonna give it a chance. It was just me and the bestie and opening midnight. Had to marathon by myself though. We went to the screening to another packed theater, genuinely excited to see the story continue. And we came out really unsure of what to think, after my second viewing, I decided I didn't like it. But now reflecting on what it has done to this fanbase and my passion, I've come to another realization. I FUCKING HATE THIS MOVIE!!!!!!!! It killed any excitement and passion I had for this franchise. And the proof of that was 2018 when I was not looking forward to Solo (which to be fair I was never on board with). Me and my best friend went midnight again and we went in unexcited, we came out bored. Resistance wasn't great, Galaxy's Edge was a disaster, Battlefront II was riddled with microtransactions. Star Wars was dead to us.
Now, this year, I have been watching and vastly enjoying the Mandalorian and Jedi: Fallen Order was a lot of fun, those were entries in the franchise made by people with a lot of love and affection for it. Jon Favreau, Dave Filoni and Respwan have all made me a little happier in what has been a very disappointing year (both Star Wars wise and with my personal life). As for the Rise of Skywalker, for tradition's sake, me and my best friend are gonna do the opening midnight screening for the film, tickets are already booked. We just finished watching the prequels, spin offs and originals and will be watching the sequels Wednesday night leading up ep IX. But unless Disney pulls a miracle out of their ass, this will most likely be the last time we see a midnight screening for Star Wars.
While I grew up with the prequels, the first clip I ever saw of a Star Wars movie was Leia and Wicket from Return of the Jedi, and the first movie I saw was A New Hope (yes, I got the nostalgia treatment). I feel your pain, dude.
May the Force be with us all.
That was heart felt brother. Truly. Some idiots will say its just a movie but its not really the film at all its as you said connections to memorys from our past like sitting with your dad and him saying "he's useing the Force wrong." Or something. Just wanted to say I'm with ya bud.
I'm sorry to hear about your dad man. I offer my condolences
Feel the same way. I know i'll have to watch Rise, but I really, really don't want to. Absolutely dreading it.
Then don't do it . You aren't forced to watch this fan fiction
Star Wars has been dead since Farce Awokens, complete garbage, an insult to the fans.
You mean since Episode 1.
At least since episode 2. And I know some people claim 3 is good but... those people are mental
@@DarranKern Prequels has had some sht dialog and the whole Anakin's love line was weak. The rest ranges from Ok to great. OT had just as much screw ups - some bad acting(God, some lines Ben Kenobi says while fighting Vader are straight up unrecognizable), horrible pacing (mostly ep 6), worst lightsaber duel (yeah, Ben vs Vader again only the sound was good during that fight)
Glauaiv ben vs vader was about more than lightsabers. The fight choreography was never the point. You should rewatch the entire OT and pay attention to what the *story* of each saber fight was.
Then tell me what the point of any of this flippy shit and geonosis chaos is.
@@DarranKern That's the most retarded explanation I have ever seen. And you call someone mental? Pretending that a bad scene is awesome because "there is a deeper meaning" is the most cliché argument ever. The only "deeper meaning" there was actor who played Ben wanting to get the f out of the film because he did not like his role and space opera as a whole. Other than that its just a "a student meets his teacher and they are enemies now" scene performed badly.
I am a STAR TREK fan so I can relate. I love many forms of Sci Fi and Fantasy but Trek really has a special place in my heart and gave me hope for the future when times were really bleak growing up. I have literally watched all the movies and franchise and still enjoy them. The feeling you have about Star Wars is a feeling of disrespect and betrayal. That all those years and money spent supporting a show, is basically told "we don't want you as fans anymore". It's a hard thing to hear, especially from people who just don't care about the countless people who have worked, supported and created their own works based on a passionate community of fans. Star Trek Discovery almost made me want to go on a killing spree. But I digress, as Q (a character from Star Trek said on the last episode of Next Generation" "All Good things must come to an End".
Some say the trailer version of "Smile" for Joker played quietly in the background as Thorias exited the cinema at the end of The Last Jedi.
This is the best Thorias origins story.
Thank you Thorias, it was nice to hear your thoughts right from the heart. I'll be seeing episode 9 as well. I'm looking forward to your review. My advice is to wait a few days and process it so there's less chance of you flying off the handle .
Chris Waltman people like you are the reason why movies like this keep getting made
@@DarranKern
How am I the reason?
Chris Waltman because you’re paying for it.
Star Wars is a product.
If the product is bad, you should try NOT BUYING IT
@@DarranKern
I'm seeing the movie because I'm a fan of the franchise, I want to see how it ends, I also want to form my own opinion instead of relying solely upon others opinions.
Chris Waltman
Have fun paying Disney to disappoint you. I don’t like to use this word often, but your plan here is a textbook example of what we call *”cuck behavior”*
I came out of the cinema stunned in the 1970s as an infant after seeing New Hope, I was there as a little kid shaking with excitement at the cinema queue for Empire Strikes Back, now I won't even bother watching Rise of Skywalker for free on my TV package just like "Solo".
Good luck on the movie man, you will need it!
I use to love the original trilogy of star wars ...God empire strikes back is my all time favorite...... the new trilogy is meh ... Episode 7 is great episode 8 is awful and noe I'm afraid for Episode 9
@@jarrodedson5441 ep 7 was meh in my opinion. Just a new hope remake with flashyer special effects.
K.K. is truly special for not seeing that Johnson's film was a hate letter to the Star Wars universe.
"DREAD" is a good emotion to feel all time from knowing Episode IX was coming out til you're watching it.
My wife almost walked out 20 minutes in, but stayed cause I did. Then she showed me a flask she brought and said "Here babe, I got a feeling you'll need this"
Man I love your videos. You been saying what I been thinking about this topic and others. I’m so glad I found you from a random Batman woman review 😂
Like he read my mind. That is exactly how i felt about Solo
My first experience with Star wars was watching the Eewoks cartoon as a kid. I then watched the TV movies and was blown by the fact that there was Sci Fi in the "Eewok Universe". Then I watched pieces of the original on TV until the special editions came to theaters. I loved them, specially the Empire Strikes back and Yoda as I immediately realize it was from Jim Henson's shop and I was a huge Muppets fan. My heart was broken in the prequels, to be honest. Yoda in an "ivory tower" commanding armies was a total betrayal of the character. The way he fought Doku just sad and juvenile. I could never imagine they would do something worse to Luke. But I feel you, brother. I was smart enough not to buy a ticket, though.
I feel the same I walked out of the cinema couldn’t believe what I was seeing before my eyes so gutted
I believe they knew what they were doing and the people involved should be put out of their misery for crimes against humanity
I felt this video. The crowd they pandered to had the nerve to call us fans with this outlook toxic. Sad to see the state of Star Wars.
Brother Man speaks the truth....FOR ALL OF US....If you need to watch Episode 9...just STREAM IT LATER.... ENJOY YOUR HOLIDAY OTHERWISE... OTHER MOVIES ARE PLAYING.... SO IF DISNEY DOESN'T CARE....THEN WHY SHOULD WE????
The Last Jedi is to Star Wars is what Final Fantasy the Spirits Within is to Final Fantasy
I don't know, I liked some things about The Spirits Within.
At least FF isn't a continuous universe, they are all independent worlds. One horrifically bad entry doesn't sour everything else
final fantasy the spirit withins a solid film albeit it aint exactly ff as v know it.
No no TLJ is so much worse
A better comparison might have been *Mario Is Missing* compared to the *Super Mario Bros*
JJ: **Looking over TFA** W-well, it's not perfect... I could have done better but... I think it's a good movie... I'm proud of it. Yeah, I'm proud of it! Mistakes aside I did good. Nothing can change that.
Rian **Drives a steamrolled over the TFA, drags a sh!t covered TLJ over in it's place.** Your turn again.
JJ: ...
First few minutes have The Last Jedi be a Force vision that Luke sees and go from there. All a dream move. Doable.
I know exactly how you feel. Thanks for sharing your story with us. May the force be with you.
At this point, SW (Disney) is pretty much dead for me, and that hurts coming from a huge fan (read all EU books, love the OT and prequels, have loads of merch, games, etc.) but Disney completely killed the franchise. Until someone with balls comes and retcons what KK did, I am done with SW for good.
I just lost my dad last week. I always went to the movies with him to see all the blockbusters. This is the first movie to come out that I won't go see with him, so I'm not going to see it anyways. I don't even feel like I'm missing out anymore.
Im sorry about your Dad. May the force be with you.
It would be pretty cool if we got a review of the last Jedi before rise of skywalker just my thought
I'm so sorry for you man, i legitimately mean that. You had an attachment to this series that was stronger than any attachment I've had to any piece of media, that's probably why when I walked out of TLJ with my friends and family we all just laughed at how BAD we all thought it was and then we put it out of our minds. It sucks that people like you are getting called toxic too, just for not liking a film and being vocal about it. A film that seems to have had not one ounce of thought or leadership put into it. :(
I hope you find the will to sit through all 2+ hours of the film to see its end. I for one, having never been that attached to SW, will simply skip it cause i don't need to know, cause TLJ was such a joke of a film and was all the experience of Disney Star Wars that I felt I needed to get the picture of what Disney has in mind for its future. God speed man! :(
Poignant and how I feel. I'm old enough for a new hope to be my early memory (Vader lifting that guy) so this pretty much sums up where I am now.
So well said my friend, I feel you all the way... Still haven't been able to bring myself to buy a ticket though. But the morbid curiousity may still get the better of me.
I never knew just how alike our opinions and experiences with Star Wars are.
>The first movie I ever saw with my Dad was Episode 3.
>I am currently reading the Vision of the future *right now* and think Mara Jade is great.
>I personally love the prequels.
>I thought 7 was ok and its shortcomings would be made up for with 8 but....yeah that happened.
I'm actually upset that I can't like a video twice.
This summer, the Utah Symphony did 'The Empire Strikes Back' in a concert (the movie is played, and the orchestra does the soundtrack). I was crying. When Star Wars: A New Hope came out geeks and nerds were very much keeping a low profile because what is now considered 'pop' culture was then looked down upon on as fringe, at best, and juvenile. When the star destroyer kept coming and coming across the top of the screen, it was unlike anything that had been done before. The story was a window on an entire universe of possibilities. Some of the characters were recognizable tropes, but dressed in new clothes, with new abilities. Since Lucas had no way of knowing if his endeavor would be successful, the story was basically complete in the one movie. But fans. went. wild. Toys, books, comics flew off the shelves. Then a sequel was planned. Theaters would announce when ticket sales would commence and people camped out for days, then they did it again to get a good seat. A community formed. At WorldCon that year, and for years to follow, Star Wars characters predominated (closely followed by Star Trek). Empire Strikes Back was the best kind of sequel, the main character's stories deepened, new characters were introduced, and That Big Reveal was a complete shock which opened up Darth Vader's backstory. But, best of all actually, the loose ends meant there would be another movie. Then there were Ewoks, and Jar Jar, and sand getting everywhere- but the Star Wars world had taken on a life of it's own. It could be whatever I wanted it to be. Time passed. Lucas seemed to be tired of it all and there was no talk of any more films. Many fans were excited, actually, when Disney bought the property. Here was a major studio with deep pockets, access to great writers and a proven history of being protective of it's intellectual properties. If anyone could pick up where Lucas had left off and move the story forward, it was Disney. The Force Awakens was a bit of a misnomer, because the Force had never gone to sleep for it's fans. It wasn't great, but there were a lot of interesting directions being teased. Little did we know, however, that the people in charge had no plan, that the writer(s) didn't understand or care about the Star Wars universe and proceeded to run 40 years of good will through the shredder before crapping all over it, then proclaiming the stench was somehow the fault of the fans that had kept this universe viable for decades. I cried when I remembered how the Star Wars universe used to be and will never, ever, be again.
Save your time and money. Don't disrespect your hard earned dollar by validating this heap of garbage with the flattery of your finances. It doesn't deserve to be paid/rewarded for the infallible failure that it is. I'm ashamed of myself for *actually* paying to see this chronic trash. How dare they expect *anyone* to pay for this. But, in the end, it'll be *Disney* who pays.
The leaks are true. *Verbatim* . I'm in utter disbelief. Coming out of the theater---I was numb. Didn't utter a word for a good 30 min. Absolutely unreal.
I believe a Disney insider intentionally leaked the plot so as to provide a public excuse for its inevitable failure. Why? Because they knew what a terrible movie that they had on their hands. Additionally, they have no intention of taking responsibility for the trash-fire that *they* are responsible for producing (from The Last Jedi up until today). It all comes down to deflection and projection. It's the behavior of a narcissistic-sociopath.
Just watch----they're going to come full-force at the fandom menace on UA-cam. Everyone who made videos on the leaks will be blamed for its failure at the box office.
First off man, very sorry for your loss. When you first said "...and my father was there" when talking about your earliest memory, I thought something might have happened. Then you confirmed it a few minutes later.
My dad passed early this year, in January. It changes things a bit. Gets easier with time, but never really leaves you.
Going back to the topic, I'm boycotting Episode IX pretty much for the exact same reasons you listed, and I am only a moderate fan of the franchise. Even then, it means something to me, and I hate how Disney has treated it in general. Decanonizing the EU is a big middle finger to thousands upon thousands of fans who enjoy that content. The mishandling of legacy characters is more of the same. You know how the rest goes.
We all know the movie is going to make money. I still want to see it underperform. I want to see it do worse than TLJ. I was hoping at least half the people who disliked TLJ would boycott Episode IX, but I'm seeing so many people go out and buy tickets anyway. It's disappointing, but that's how hype works.
That said, I can't be mad at you for knowingly supporting Disney's treachery here. You have suffered for like two months straight watching shitty Batwoman episodes and reviewing them for our benefit. If you want to suffer through Episode IX, more power to you.
Ideas for the review...
You could record the audio with your phone and then jot down notes from that later, or just take quick notes in the theater. Would make doing a video or stream that much easier.
Whatever you do man I'll check it out. Good luck
I definitely sympathize with your feelings. I don't plan on seeing this movie because I don't want to give Disney money after what they did to this franchise. They really only understand profits. If they don't meet their financials goals, then they MIGHT be inspired to do better.
Wow that was wonderfully done, I commend you on being so calm and and concise with your criticism. I’m right there with you on every word and thought.
As a point of hope, thought there is no really ever going back, it may happen that in the futures someone retcons the new trilogy.
May the force be with you Thorias!
At times like these it is people like you that we turn to for guidance. Godspeed sir.
7666
Understand, I do. No hope, you have. Your pain, I feel.
I felt so empty inside when I left the movie. It broke my heart what they did to star wars. I put away all my star wars merchandise. I will not watch or buy anything ever again.
i hate to say it, but we are the same. star wars has always been my childhood memory when it comes to movies. the scene where luke han leia and chewy aboard the millennium falcon entered a meteor to escape the enemies, unknowing that they were in the belly of a giant monster. that scene stuck to my memory til in my highschool days.
You watch it so we dont have to, that's why i love this channel.
I'm sorry to hear about your dad. It's worse considering the role this franchise had in helping you deal with the rough patches in life and how they've totally let you down. You're getting them back now though. You're a critic of some renown. Your opinion matters. People like me listen. So...LET EM HAVE IT.
And yet, by some sort of miracle, this freaking movie will still rake in the dough right of it's opening weekend!!! I wouldn't even dare make a bet on it!
"It''s terrible etc. etc. but I got to see it" - that is why they keep doing them, because of all of those weaklings who just need to see it and put money in their pockets...
You captured my feelings exactly. I saw return of the jedi in the theaters. I was 7. Luke was undying hope to me. Galahad. He's gone. Star wars is gone.
As far as i am concerned there are 7 star wars movies. I liked rogue 1 and ep1-6. That's it for me.
I’ve been an advocate for recasting the original characters and making a direct sequel to return of the Jedi - it surprisingly seemed like an unpopular choice with fans online, everyone wanted the old actors back, so that apparently meant they couldn’t do much with old leia and Luke so cast new actors for new characters to work alongside them. I would have liked to see Sebastian Stan as an adult Luke with a young apprentice rey that he took a shining to because she reminded him of himself and Dennis Quaid as a grumbling Solo getting into trouble with the Hut mob and mandalorians and introducing Snoke as a sith who wants to be the new emperor... oh god I’m writing my own fan fiction here. But fan fiction is what we got from JJ and Rian... JJ handing his ideas to Rian and he just tosses them over his shoulder like Luke did in The last jedi... very symbolic. Juvenile too. Star Wars is in great hands with these people ....
Agree totally, last jedi felt like the first movie of a saga if anything because of all the questions it generated without any answers
Unbelievable: I live in Broward County, FL, and *none* of the theaters near me are sold out on opening night. *ALL SHOWS STILL HAVE SEATS AVAILABLE*.
I remember going to see Episode 1 in theaters: my parents bought the tickets three weeks in advance, and the theater was packed to the gills. Hell, every show of Endgame was packed to the gills when I went opening weekend.
I loved Star Wars- now hate it. I loved the NFL- now hate it. I loved Nike- now hate it. Well said T/U!
9:23: "He [Rian Johnson] only cared about one thing with Episode 8, and that's being the bull in the china shop that walks in, flips over every table, smashes everything in sight, and walks away laughing."
I'm not even a Star Wars fan, yet I know that what you have said is true, because I have seen it with my own eyes with Star Trek. Bad Robot and Secret Hideout could have made New Trek without perverting the heroes and ideals of classic Trek. However, they have made New Trek as the complete opposite of classic Trek: New Trek is immoral and pessimistic. It is so perfectly contradictory to the goal of Gene Roddenberry to make the world a better place, that the corruption must be deliberate and cruel. I feel your pain.
May the force be with you. Live long and prosper.
Honestly this was a great video, you should do more like this tbh.
On your next video, please make a hearty suggestion that anyone who goes
to see Rise of Skywalker should take a photo of the audience density
(and maybe even ask the theatre guys how overall attendence was for the
movie). We really need to insure that they can't pull a "Captain Marvel"
on us by inflating the ticket numbers by buying up no-show seats.