FYI deuterium is an isotope of hydrogen in real life, (its used in nuclear fusion or at least people's attempts to make fusion work & no doubt has other uses) so is presumably being extracted from the heavy water (Im not a halo player so there might be some difference in the game).
That’s what is wrong with things today. If the makers of Star Trek, and Star Wars had actually seen and UNDERSTOOD the franchises, a cadet (Kirk) wouldn’t be given command of a starship. Or a kid (Rey) wouldn’t do none of the things she does and no other Jedi in 30 years ever does to show how “powerful” she is. They read the wiki page and went from there.
@@josebrown5961 na most the wiki pages are quite in depth if you look at anything besides the original and prequal they saw the brand money nothing else
@@zogwort1522 Ah, but outrage doesn't make money when those being outraged responded by _not_ buying the product. Outrage mongering works for the news because that very outrage is caused by a product already sold by the time people get angry, but this kind of outrage does nothing but lose money as the product requires people to buy it _after_ they've been infuriated. This failing of the outrage scheme is why companies are beginning to shift away from this model or are starting to full on collapse if they refuse to.
So Thorias, Mercy in the games was one of the three main leaders of the covenant along with the prophets of Truth and Regret. Together the three lead the covenant on a religious holy war against humanity. In the games, under no circumstance would Mercy of all three prophets have even allowed a human to breath in his presence. He was probably the most dogmatically vicious in his beliefs from the way he's portrayed in Halo 2.
@@jessicaavery1080 I guess I'm up for something different, but it seems like a pretty big difference to have the prophets of the covenant interacting with a human. Like, I feel the prophets of the games would have mutilated this human beyond recognition, had some secret order of elites encase that mangled husk barely clinging to life inside some sort of sarcophagus and then brand every elite who carried out those orders as heretics and execute them. Then they'd have claimed the thing clinging to life in the sarcophagus was a forerunner and that it was aiding them along the great journey.
@@grammification Wow this for sure! Even if they need a cheap human characters in the Covenant so they can get bad guy scenes for cheap, having them as a prisoner encased as a "forerunner artifact" and a secret kept from the other elites and brutes (and maybe even other prophets) would have been SOOOOOOO much better.
possible. Truth, Mercy and Regret were the only one who knew the truth about the connection Humans and Forerunner, since Humans can access Forerunner tech much easier and to use the Halo ring. Halo 3 Truth keep Johnson alive. Regret met Ander from Halo wars. yet both case were with human being prisoners. of course the show can't understand the reasons.
@@bloodysimile4893 True, I just got vibes especially from Mercy that he wouldn't tolerate a human's presence. Or certainly wouldn't regard them as a "blessed one". Truth from the games might have, he seemed to be even more manipulative than Regret and Mercy.
I was a Voice actor for over 20 years. I was proud of the roles I got to play. You would think that an actor would LOVE the chance to put their stamp on a character without having to have their face shown. Look at Captain Phasma, she kept her hat on for two movies. We didn’t need to see her face. She was able to give the character all it needed with just her voice and body-like an ACTOR. I was a VOICE actor and my face wasn’t part of it. The role of Master Chief is the same.
@@josebrown5961 damn straight and good on you for realising that acting doesn't require showing yourself and also glad to see a voice actor! You guys made my childhood to teen years.
its incredible the amount of ego the people making shit have nowadays even when they have done nothing of note. Even the writers are like this. A complete no name writer doesnt want 'his vision' limited by the source material. Excuse me, who the fuck are you to think you can just come and rewrite a 20 year old IP in your image. They should be basically plagiarizing the games in hopes of making something good just to get their names out there. Then you can make 'your stories' in an original series.
New adaptation of a loved ip , let's see: Character deconstrotion ✅ Making the whole story about a female/non white/mb even non cis non hetero ✅ General exclusion of the game influence ✅ Unwarranted dislike for the core fanbase ✅ Villain is a white guy ✅ Bad world building ✅ Characters acting stupid for plot convenience ✅ Barely at the first episode and we're already getting all those , and judging on the fact that they're supposed to wow us by putting more resources here to keep an audience for the rest of the show I think it's fair to say it's only downhill from here...unless you're in for inclusion ,diversity, tearing down the patriarchy and all that oh! so enlighten trend of ruining everything for the message
The problem is that the creative process in large sections of the entertainment industry has become ossified (in my opinion). There simply isn't the range and depth of talent any more because everybody who doesn't subscribe to the progressive orthodoxy has been edged out of the industry. The people that are left are simply incapable of writing a good story and are opposed to using the original source material because it doesn't fit in with their ideology. Why would they be interested in looking at a game where the main character is a white male hero?
The thing that inspired awe when i was young playing Halo for the first time was the fascinating idea of existing on an orbiting halo while battling alien species. Never did i care about the characters or politics. The Red vs. Blue series went on for years without needing ANYTHING but the game and exploring lore. They bought out and sold out another loyal following
Damn the Red Vs Blue series from Recreation to the Chorus Trilogy had amazing storytelling. Never did I think a comedy series could have suggest a compelling story and characters. The voice acting too...the chemistry between the actors is amazing and never in my opinion has a show so fluidly balanced and switched between dark character moments like Church's and the directors story, the abuse of the freelancer program and the A.I and then perfectly balance that out with the quirkiness of the Reds and Blues. The character development was insane for them too. The Blood Gulch trilogy was fine though it is more skits roughly tied together with a kinda sort of story but in my opinion don't hold a candle to Recreation all the way going to the Chorus Trilogy. Which in my opinion is where it ended.
It's really crazy that Rooster Teeth went full woke considering how they started. You could not publish the jokes they made in the first few seasons of RvB today without getting torch and pitchfork'd by the twitter crowd.
25:33 Kwan says at one point that the colonies would believe her and the scientist's daughter responds "But we have everything on record". Well they also have this very same exchange between Kwan and the emissary, where the Korean teenager overtly admits "what if I lie and... " The UNSC could just broadcast that and let the galaxy know their version before Kwan even gets the chance to walk out of their custody. No assassination required. But then the authors would have to invent some other reason for the stand off at the end of the episode.
Yeah wait a second, why would they even be afraid of kwans lie. Let the 14 year old lie and destroy her own story by saying the unsc attacked. Then just post the pictures of the covenant and the plasma burn worlds on the victims basically proving it couldn’t be the unsc since they don’t use plasma based weaponry. It would make kwan look like some stupid child that made things up to hurt the unsc and only help the unsc.
@@josebrown5961 which sucks cause why are we stuck with shit stupid preach writers meanwhile anime has amazing writing. Like look how well crafted berserk was. And we are stuck with jj
@@edwardrichtofen8530 Didn't they also just killed the covenants and had tons of corpses? Plus, from what was being said, if everything was also on record, wouldn't everything together just completely destroy everything the lady says and, most importantly, give them proof of alien attack and they wouldn't even need the teenage girl in the first place? Actually, why do they even need the teenage girl in the first place, do anything to her or even breath in her direction? They have bodies of aliens, weapons of aliens and an entire colony of dead colonists who they can use to prove it was covenant attacks? Why would they even care about needing a civilian in the first place, let alone fear her?
"not seeing the guy's face wasn't doable" Ahem:. Did you forget how popular the Mandalorian is? And no, not in the entirety of the Halo franchise do we see Master Chief's face as an adult. At the end of Halo 4 we see the top of his head and down to his eyes, but that's it. Even shots of him as a child are a cartoon.
I dont think showing his face is necessarily bad. Mando doesn't show his face because its a thing of religious zealotry (and he still does it). Chief not showing his helmet is purely a game meme and has no basis in the actual narrative. Heck he's even shown taking off his helmet in CE, just the camera pans away. But the way he does it just feels weird in this.
@@Janx14 He mainly didn't do it in the game because by that point, it kept up the air of mystery. The other members of Blue Team didn't take theirs off that often either though. But new spartans tended to, like Fire Team Osiris. But the main thing here is that the Chief would never remove his helmet in a situation where it was more tactful to keep it on. The chief was/is a soldier, first and foremost. And by making him more emo, they're straying AWAY from his character. Remember, Cortana made him promise to find out which one of them was the machine. Chief has always been stoic, non-talkative and non-emotional. That didn't mean he wasn't caring, compassionate, etc. just that he wasn't emotional. But frankly, this is just the least of their crimes with the writing/storytelling in this series. It's a travesty and I can only pray that they actually DON'T make the Mass Effect series I've actually been hoping that they would for all this time. While ME has the story potential of GoT & better, I don't trust them to do it justice in today's climate & with today's priorities. I'm severely concerned about Babylon 5 too, even though JMS is supposedly in full creative control, I don't even trust him not to mess it up at this point. I'd rather they just leave the old series alone. Babylon 5 was perfect. It doesn't need a reboot or continuation or sequel.
Halo: Reach did a great job of showcasing why civilians were afraid of the Spartan teams, without making the Spartans into outright monsters who apparently murder families and children on the regular. There's a fantastic scene in the first mission where they find a frightened civilian and we get some exposition where some of the colder members of the team just brush her off, but there's a moment that I think the show lifted from the game (despite the top writers claiming to have not even played the games...) where Jorge takes off his helmet and speaks to her in her native language to try to calm her down. It's a nice touch, and it's subtle- unlike what this nightmare sounds like.
@@Hawkcam1996 I think th OP means that it didn't have to be Master chief who took his helmut off to kwan, hell they could've done that scene differently with a different Spartan
@@colnelScar2 That's what I meant, yes. It may not have even been inspired by the Reach scene, but the way Thorias described it definitely reminded me of Reach and how good it was at portraying the Spartans as somewhat separate from normal humans, but still people we wanted to root for.
Chief just feels wrong in general. Like someone running off of chief memes and not knowing his character. Spartans have emotions, and personalities, and do think. Just look at Noble team in Reach, or....even the rest of Silver Team. Spartans have a very different life, but they aren't robocop.
So, the alien artifact gives Master Chief basic human empathy he didn't have before and produces an electrical thing that does completely opposite effects depending on who it hits? It's the Joker's joy buzzer from Batwoman!
seriously from my understanding, the UNSC in this show seems to care more about farmers with bootleg AK-47's than a multi species religious alien regime that has technology nearly a millennia ahead of them and upon first contact with them completely and obliterates a town full of people regardless of age or gender, but no the problem is the farmers. I've read at least 4 of the books one of them being contact harvest and the minute the UNSC learned about the covenant they immediately did a 180 and switched like 98% of there attention to the Covenant.
According to the show, the Covenant and the UNSC have been fighting for several months when the first episode takes place. According to the creators the humans still don't know why the Covenant wants.
@@ArthurRex131 haven’t multiple worlds already been glassed in the show? This is just some bullshit to make muh government bad crap and rebels good. Even though in halo the UNSC were very much the good guys
@@ArthurRex131 seems like after four months of fighting an alien invasion.... the aliens mighy be hostile. Just saying. This is bad story telling, if to understand the TV show you have to read a bunch of books to explain why the TV show makes no sense.
The Covenant are established right off the bat to be opposed to the UNSC and the genocidal fanatics that we know. The UNSC in the show doesn't dispute or deny that. They still don't know WHY the Covenant are glassing their worlds, though, according to the showrunners or somesuch thing. Which makes sense since the Covenant wouldn't care to tell a species they view to be on the same level as infectious bacteria why they were out to erradicate them from the galaxy. And how is it "some bullshit" to show that the UNSC aren't a perfect society? I call that Storytelling 101. Your good guys should have flaws and not be super perfect so they can be more believable as characters/organizations.
@@RantTheRetort The UNSC is well aware that the covenant is hostile. They don't know WHY the coventant is hostile yet because the covenant aren't big on talking to a race they view as an infectious disease..
In the games it is indeed extraordinarily rare to see the Master Chief's face... in fact, I don't think it happens in a game until the *end* of 4 or 5? It's very late in the game. In the books, it's far less a rare thing as there are times when he isn't in a forward combat zone and on a space ship or at a primary military base world and is wearing dress uniform and *not* the MJOLNIR armor - all really normal stuff that makes sense but, otherwise, the Spartan II's generally feel like the MJOLNIR armor is their second-skin - they spend so much time in them and they work so well with them (suits were specifically made for their augmented biology) that they're more at-home in them than out. The funny thing is that, in the books, Master Chief comes to have a really, really devoted view to the sanctity of human life after he gets some perspective due to the war with the Covenant and general military service that he does go out of his way, when he can, to *not* kill fellow humans... but I can't see him ever taking off his helmet to placate *one* human, especially a total asshole like Quan. Not that a regular human would have a hope in hell of shooting him anywhere, nevermind in the face when he's looking at them, but he knows his value and his value to his team and to humanity as a whole... I can't see him jeopardizing that for some scrublord rebel.
You never really see Master Chief's face in the games, at the very best you get a 'shadows over any defining features' shot where you can see that he's pale and has a buzzcut; never the full face or something to emote with or treat casually.
If his face needed to be shown it should have happened in the bungie games. Neither 343 nor this garbage show deserved to have that big moment. And to do it so early is even more offensive
It is just like The Mandalorian. We fans DON’T care what Master Chief looks like. But an actor spent his career in front of CAMERAS. So of course whoever they hire is gonna get his face seen. With Boba Fett we had a reason in the story. The Mandalorian did a decent job, him only taking off his helmet to show the child. Master Chief is out of his helmet in the first episode? Again these producers read the wiki - not the actual source material.
That because as a first person shooter you are master chief. He was never meant to have a face. The story was about you fighting the war as a spartan originally. It moved own in the later games into a story about master chief but as the player it's you
@@ArthurRex131 I'll save you some time. SPOILER ALERT: Because the writers are lazy, talentless narcissists who have zero respect for the IP, the fans, and the intelligence level of their audience. They know that without the IP nobody would ever give their lackluster generic assembly-line cliche-fest one millisecond of their time. That fills them with overflowing resentment for the IP itself even as they know they are utterly dependent upon it. Which further fuels their resentment and entirely deserved feelings of inadequacy. Like a child who hates a hard, strict but otherwise good parent. There ya go. Asked and answered. Yer welcome, choom.
@@TheCrimsonRevenger this does not answer my question at all in the slightest. In fact, this entire reply reads like someone who is kneejerking because the show isn't an exact shot for shot recreation of the story from the games.
Its pretty much all those themes and plot ideas 343 tried and failed with for the first half of their tenure with halo. Rogue chief, UNSC bad, etc. I'm going to guess Infinite got spared those because those members of 343 were too busy with the show.
Canon accuracy aside its really shocking just how bad this script is. I can only imagine it got approved because Microsoft stopped caring due to 343 running the franchise into the ground the last decade.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't sending a strikeforce of exclusively Elites vs an unimportant human outpost a laughable violation of Covenant Battle Doctrine? Seems like a job for Jackals and Grunts with one or two Elite supervisors.
@@thoriasunlimited4053 This. The Elites were there to retrieve a holy relic, not purge the population. Episode 2 suggests Madrigal actually has proper cities, so im guessing the covenant didn't want to attract attention to this planet....despite apparently attacting enough attention that the UNSC sends the best of the best to go stop them.
Deuterium is an isotope of water, also called heavy water. It is used in some fission nuclear reactors to slow down neutrons. There are other, non nuclear, industrial applications
@@Coramelimane not fake science, but it's mostly theoretical. It's also not used exclusively by Star Trek - it's pretty common for anything involving a fusion application, especially in military sci-fi.
Deuterium is used mostly in nuclear fields, but its use is expanding. It's relatively easy to get from heavy water, which is relatively easy to get from regular water You can make deuterium at home with careful application of electrolysis Heavy water itself is less than $100 per gallon, very cheap for a chemical. It would have made more sense for the show to make a stink about lithium mining, but lithium is necessary for the current crop of electric cars.
Imagine if Marvel Studios hit my line telling me "Hey, do you want to direct Spider-Man 4"? I say yes but I never read a single Spider-Man comic in my life. In order to make an adaptation of something, DO YOUR DAMN HOMEWORK!
The part about Spartans being originally basically UNSC hitmen used for targeted killing of rebel leaders is actually in the canon lore. The Spartans were a secret though at that point unless I am mistaken. After the war against Covenant started Spartans were revealed as a trump card against the alien and their shady origin was kinda swept under the rug. And admiral Parangosky being an a-hole is accurate to the lore too. That being said everything else about the show seems wrong - especially how they sort of mashed up elements from very different time periods - war against the covenant lasted nearly 30 years (with the games taking place toward the end) and the whole story of Spartans is even longer.
Interestingly, they don't seem to have been employd in that anti-dissident/inssurgency role that much because the war with the Covenant started soon afterwards. I think Chief himself only went on one single operation against Issurectionists before shifting his focus almost entirely to the war with the Genocidal Aliens.
@@andrewphillips8341 The Novels and games explain most of this. Reach is an example. This show has a decent sprinkle of lore- but the execution is just way too rushed and piss poor. Im still gunna give it a chance but.... yikes and the Actor of MC... they couldnt get anyone closer to the stoic MC voice... and pulling off the helmet in episode one... ffs. he's one of the greated masked/ rarely unmasked video game characters out there.
I think the difference is in the books the Innies were shown to also be bad (or at least, not angels). They're usually introduced in scenes where they are planning terrorist attacks or stockpiling weapons of mass destruction. In the 2 episodes we have they're arguably the good guys and shown to just be doing their own thing at a mining site. The only bad innie we see is one that was the UNSC puppet dictactor. The UNSC gives no real counter argument to anything the innies accuse of them of. Its one thing to bring more light to the innies, which I don't think is a bad idea, but its another to oddly villain bat the UNSC while making the innies look like innocent people. Its an especially odd path to take when the majority of your starting fanbase is going to games only people who are primarily there to see the big green man fight aliens. Portraying him and his organization as the bad guys feels insulting.
Deuterium is an isotope of hydrogen with one proton and one neutron as opposed to ordinary hydrogen which only has a proton. Heavy water is water where the hydrogen component is either deuterium or tritium, which has two neutrons. These heavier isotopes of hydrogen are valuable for military and industrial applications since they will undergo nuclear fusion at lower temperatures and pressures. None of which makes the show good, but this pretty basic physics, and it is much better grounded in reality than much of sci-fi.
Deuterium is hydrogen with an atomic mass of 2. Heavy water is water with Deuterium instead of regular hydrogen. It has a role in nuclear moderation. It is more dense than regular water so it slows down neutrons.
What they actually said was they didn't look to the games for inspiration. They looked to other sources like the books for inspiration. It sounds like you and others on this thread were expecting a 1-1 adaptation of the games, and are upset that you didn't get it.
Chief “remembering” things and going rogue is nonsense. In the novel The Fall of Reach, Halsey is advised to use chemicals to wipe the minds of then-6-year-old Spartan candidates. She refused that option, explicitly expressing that she wanted to prevent the specific scenario that we’re now seeing in the show. (For all the terrible things Halsey did to the Spartans, she did care about their psychological well-being and tried to minimize the damage done to them.) The majority of Spartans - including Chief - wouldn’t go rogue simply because they remembered their childhoods. Their childhoods are something that they’re willing to leave undisturbed in favor of the purpose-filled lives they’ve been given. (There’s room for commentary about that, and the franchise has touched upon that in the past, but not like this.)
@@ArthurRex131 True, yet I think this is a prime example of how little the show runners understand about HALO. They are trying to establish drama using low-hanging fruit that contradicts the fundamentals of the series. (The same goes for Makee and whatever they are trying to do with her.) If they wanted to do a series about a Spartan going rogue because of some revelation, it should be over something that would actually rattle the Spartans. ONI did all sorts of abhorrent things that would make for far more interesting "going rogue" stories. The showrunners just had to put in the effort. If they DID want to use the Spartan-II program as the inciting incident of this storyline, it should have been about a non-Spartan going rogue and Master Chief being forced to confront the ethics of his creation as a result of hunting down this rogue element.
@@ArthurRex131 why the fuck should he even be the antagonist? Having chief act like chief would make him the antagonist? Why are the unsc portrayed as the bad guys? Your solution is to drastically change both chief and the unsc instead of deleting kwan and keeping the old story.
Yep. In fact the Spartans knew about their tragic childhood but (especially when the covenant arrived) accepted that fact and knew it was for the greater good.
Deuterium is what makes heavy water. Rather than the typical hydrogen in a water molecule, it is oxygen bonded with a form of hydrogen that has a neutron as well as a proton.
3:36-3:38 "It's a Different universe" rhetoric is why rippa hates multiverses because it becomes a free for fall. I have my own thoughts about different universes but I can agree that it's getting irritating when Hollywood hacks don't want to follow through with the lore & just do whatever the fuck they want it show's how lazy, uninspired & Creatively bankrupt they are.
@@robertdouth8979 Yeah one that doesn't even get Developement, Struggle or go through any adversity whatsoever & is just praised as super amazing & badass.
These lunatics have the same mindset as Dr Who, Witcher, He-Man, Trek. Who basically came out and said the same as Klutzman about Trek saying we dont want Trekkies we dont care about canon its our own platform. Thats why its trash and no-one watches any of the shows they put out. Halo is another go woke go broke example by having Master Chief as a cameo in his own show cos its all about the girl with the key to everything as usual...smh
I hope the show fails spectacularly, they just changed everything to create an abomination. And didn’t they call it silver timeline after the backlash from when they said they weren’t following the lore of the games? Awful.
I think the scene with the girl refusing to cooperate and trying to use the situation could have worked if they had established two things. One, her father was a leader and if they had show that she was well known like him (maybe she stood beside him at most of his speeches/made her own speeches) her threat to lie about what happen would have held more weight. Two they could have established that maybe it was her young nieveness that made her think this was a good opportunity to seek independence, aka have a scene with her and her father where he's basically drilling into her head that they must do what ever it takes to gain independence earlier then when this scene comes up it could be her repeating a bunch of the lines not realizing due to her youth that this may not be the best time to do so when such threat threatens to wipe out her entire colony. There's always a chance in later episodes they could reveal more information that makes these actions make more sense, Problem with the netflix moddle of releasing all episodes at once now that a lot of places are going back to weekly (for more money) people are used to having all the answers right a way, but then again writers not bothering to give backstory to peoples motivations and assuming audience members will understand what they're trying to do is a big problem with writing these days.
So about the memory erasure stuff. It is brought up in the books during the early days of the Spartan-II program. Halsey states they will not do it because if something happens and the Spartans begin to remember or find out they were lied to, they run a high likelihood of the Spartans rebelling. So they tell the Spartans the truth from the start. Funny how the books already went over the logical conclusion of this and they end up using the exact opposite for the show and low and behold, the thing Halsey states would happen in the books, happens in the show.
Yeah in this timeline halsey is dumb, like keeping the super secret & illegal cortana project in the middle of UNSC HQ in a side room of her main lab, where Parangosky can just walk in and go "no, don't". TBH i always found Parangosky not knowing what Halsey was up to in the books pretty questionable as is, but at least in the main timeline Halsey operated out of remote labs like Sword Base and not a brisk stroll from Parangosky's office.
I think a recurring problem show-writers have is they don't know how to convey messaging subtly. So you end up with these preachy characters who just naturally incline people to hate them, because people don't like being lectured, particularly by people who are lecturing absent any connection to logic or actual events. Add to that the infuriatingly common response by established characters of "Wow, they're so right! I've been terrible but this wonderful person has shown me the way, let me follow them to the ends of the earth."
In case anyone _is_ wondering what Deuterium is, it’s a naturally occurring isotope of hydrogen, which has a neutron in addition to the proton in its nucleus. (Who let all those crickets in here…)
Now we know why one the showrunner left before this show came on cause just saw the first episode and to be honest … him taking his helmet off killed it for me, Bruh Mando kept his helmet on longer than master chief and it got worse when see a human ally with the covenant
This show could have started with the creation of the Spartan 2, the abducted, brainwashed and tortured children, worked from there to show Master Chief's creation and upbringing and show how the Spartans were created to be the perfect tools for the political leaders to use to quash all resistance against them and show how ruthless they became, before the Covenant show up and the Spartans were then turned on humanity's enemies. Which, if I remember, was how the actual creation of the Spartans came to be. Even if it is not beat for beat or if I am remembering some things wrong, it still will be more faithful then this show ever will be.
Hey Thorias you skipped a very important point, the soundtrack. Halo has one of the best if not the best soundtrack in FPS history. The sound track feels weird, like they changed 20% of it in order to not pay rights. And its a shame.
He mentioned that he likes the OSTs so much that he owns them even though he's only played the first game. I'm glad he didn't go through every scene in the episode and talk about how Track X, Y, or Z from the OST would be better than what was used.
I mentioned the OST's of the games and they're awesome. By comparison, the soundtrack of the show felt very generic. There was one musical cue near the end I noticed that felt like the ones from the game, otherwise it was a pretty big letdown.
While I think having the main OST going all the time in this show would feel weird with its less...action movie style tone and pacing, the ost is extremely generic. The problem continues in episode 2 as well, even during some establishing shots that could have used a halo riff.
Thanks for the heads up. I am a big fan of the Halo franchise. I would of been pissed watching this episode if not for your review. Thanks for taking one for the team.
For what it's worth, Thorias, the other reviews of this episode echo what you said: it started out great, then went off the rails after that first battle.
That seems to be the general consensus right now. I've got enough time to watch episode 2 before my free trial expires. I can only imagine how that turned out.
Deuterium is an isotope of hydrogen. Deuterium oxide is heavy water. So, as long as you brush up on your physics before watching the show, you'll be fine.
Deuterium is pretty well explained in several other comments here, but it's also used in multiple sci-fi stories (especially military sci-fi) for fusion reactions. Most of the stuff it's used for is not fake science either, though it *is* firmly theoretical - we don't do fusion reactors that well in real life, so making tech dependent on them like Hellbore cannons would be beyond us for a good while.
So Master Chief pulls a Sylvester Stallone and takes his helmet off. Well that's just...wrong. Hoo boy. This sounds like the start of Halo: The Batwoman Era
No one noticed that Quan kept the blood and brains of her friends on her face the whole time? That she didn't think to wipe her face like a human being would?
Doesn't ONI (spelling?) eliminate EVERYONE that learns of the Spartan's existence? Like, they're top secret super soldiers made from kidnapped children that were tortured into perfection. They don't want anyone questioning things, or learning of any secret weapons. Until the Convenant showed up, at least. But as Halsey says, no one cared to ask any questions at that point.
"I hate to be that guy but there were no Halos in that show" Paramount Plus Writers: "Whats a Halo? You mean Halo is something more then the video game title?"
It is literally Halo 5 2.0 electric Boogaloo. Halo being marketed to Normies and has Chief Go rouge and betray the UNSC because of past memories and an Evil Chick.
If you want an idea of who they're making movies and shows for nowadays, look at a particular Pixar article for Turning Red where they say it literally out loud... They are making movies and shows for THEMSELVES.
Whats amazing is Halo is not just a game - It's an expanded lore universe with existing TV/ movie media and books/ comics/ along with games as well, both FPS, and RTS. To ignore ALL that because "the game is limiting to our medium" is the most ignorant thing of all time. Edit* Deuterium is the scientific name for heavy water - they are the same thing.
Not surprising. Same thing happened with Star Wars. Rich material in books, comics and games that is being ignored in favor of trash stories like Mandalorian, BOBF, Cassian Andor etc
So just small science note. Deuterium is an isotope of hydrogen that has two particles in its nucleus, hence the name... and a water molecule made with this hydrogen is called Heavy Water, which is theoretically(since we haven't build a working one yet) useful in fusion reactors, which is what the humans use in this setting... so basically it requires intimate knowledge of both the setting... and actual nuclear science because they couldn't be bothered to tell you anything.
I feel like I gotta say this: deuterium is an isotope of hydrogen, and heavy water is water (H2O) with deuterium as the H. Perhaps they should've explained that in the show, and hinted why it's valuable.
Uhh, it's valuable... because... uhh... we, we made a machine that works off of it. Yeah. So it's valuable now and we can't synthesize it (because, apparently, we can create supersoldiers with portable shields powered at several terrawatts but we've forgotten basic chemistry). So, yeah, it's SERIOUSLY important and SUPER rare and it can only be mined! In case that wasn't obvious; I'm being sarcastic. The writers probably openend a science lexicon, found something sounding 'sciency' enough and went with "looks good to me, no one knows that stuff anyway".
I kinda wish that elites did not have energy swords and saving them for the Elite Ultras and Zealots. (Also make the Elites less bulky) They could have Jin get his neck broken by the Elite Major.
@@roneherushin4638 Dude, it could have been a real way to put some stakes. That those were regular ground troops that were slaughtering regular people. When we would see the Ultras and Zealots we could really see some damage happening. Especially with Silver Team. Maybe someone might die on lose a limb on Silver Team.
There was a time when we used to be excited when the mainstream adapted comic books, video games and other products from nerdom. Those days are long gone. Until the SJWs and the ESG standard is abolished, nothing will improve
Deuterium is an isotope of hydrogen which is found in heavy water. It is twice as heavy as the most common isotope of hydrogen, hence the "heavy" of heavy water. It is used in various capacities for nuclear reactions.
It feels like whoever wrote Quan's character took cues from Batwoman's Mary: an insufferably smug, self-righteous, ungrateful Asian chick that the audience is still meant to sympathize and identify with.
The show says the Spartans have chips that suppress there emotions. That irks me because the books made a point to state that the kids the kidnapped for the program KNEW what was happening so that they were less likely to rebel. They were told day one when they woke up for Boot Camp they were never going home and that the UNSC along with there fellow trainees were there new family. That they would spend their lives training and would become the best of the best. That was Halsey speech to them and you hear snippets of it in the third game from the Cortana visions
Master Chief had red hair as seen in a childhood flashback in one of the games. They couldn't even get the hair right. They took his helmet off, which was already a mistake, and they couldn't even get the hair color right.
They did say duterium was starship fuel, but it was an easy to miss line. Saying that, the showrunners were out and replaced before this episode dropped, so perhaps S2 will be a reboot...or just Batwoman all over again.
I believe the line was something about hydrogen being starship fuel and that it also made good drugs. I figured that was referring to deuterium, but I wasn't sure.
Deuterium : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deuterium The Leaders of the Coveant would not allow a human to be alive within thier sight Yes Spartans were orginally meant to quell a terrorist faction that wanted indepentance Once the Coveant showed up, spartans were under orders to recover any and all alien tech As for not seeing John 117's face, this was done with the orginal Judge Dreed film where thay had Dreed unmasked for most of the film (admittedly for plot reasons) but in the Dreed film, we never saw his face for the entire film and it worked fine
I worked for Gene Roddenberry. I worked there for almost 4 years. Running mail, escorting tours for people around the world. Those whom had access. I delivered things back and forth between the studio and the Talents home. I help sell things at the Star Trek conventions under Lincoln Enterprises. I played some aliens or person in the background. They took a full photo set of my head. They remarked how I looked like an alien. They apologized but I thought it a compliment because who I worked for 😆. I still have contacts at different levels, now at different studios. (Inside and contractors). It is fascinating what UA-cam gets leaked (the hosts commentaries) and how much of it I know to be false/true. And exactly who these leaks may come from. I respect NDA's I have never betrayed a confidence. Have a great weekend.
Jesus Christ, why didn't they just take notes from Forward Unto Dawn. That movie was an excellent love letter to Halo while also portraying Chief as someone genuinely larger than life. Even when sitting next to other Gen 2 Spartans, he feels like the odd man out; stronger and more laser focused on the conflict.
@@thoriasunlimited4053 I mean, you could set it up as an homage to its FPS genre roots, treat every episode like a level with a distinct theme/location/palette/baddy type, that might be kinda fun, though it definitely would get tiresome if poorly executed.
@@thoriasunlimited4053 it would take brilliant writing and direction, but maybe some potential alternating perspectives could work maybe. IE we get 90% of masterchiefs interactions from a 1st person view. The rest would be 3rd person with "everyone else". It could easily be done so poorly it would be unwatchable , however, done right it could be "lightning in bottle" with tremendous work and foresight.
I really, really, don’t understand the trend of giving artists/creatives who don’t love or even enjoy a property, the greenlight to make shows and content about said property. Like, what’s the point?
Coming from someone who knew absolutely nothing about Halo, I really enjoyed the first episode. Can't wait to get to know more about Master Chief, his background, how he became Master Chief, ... but am also invested in some of the other characters of whom I wish to learn more. Looking forward to the next episode in a few hours.
-Yes, the Spartans did indeed fight human rebels for the UNSC. -Humans did trade with alien species which are part of the covenant, but not officially, so human collaborators aren't unthinkable, especially if those devices are what I think they are. -In the games most/all of the Spartans know they're stolen kids and don't care, especially Masterchief, so this conflict over his memories they're building up is pretty dumb.
There’s a part of me that’s like “I knew this was gonna be bad as soon as they announced it… but maybe it won’t be as bad as Star Wars went…” And then that trailer dropped and I went kinda positive with it like “okay so they actually put some money behind the name… we might actually have something here maybe” And then I saw that they didn’t reference the games and immediately my opinion was ruined on this. So I watched episode 1… and made a reaction video about how mad I was after spending time watching them trash my absolute favorite IP…. Star Wars, Gears of War, Halo are all dead now and whatever’s left is not made for me. And that’s okay… I had 2008-2012. I played the hell outta H3 and ODST and of course Reach. I made friends and memories that even now I remember some really fun and good times playing online with my buds in HS. But our time has passed and now it belongs to 343 and Paramount. To anyone that genuinely likes what they see on the screen with this show? Enjoy it. But for the vast majority out there similar to me… have hope. Some day this has to get better.
This series looks to be on par with the Milla Jovovich Resident Evil series and the 2021 Mortal Kombat movie. It's amazing that Sonic the Hedgehog is the only recent video game IP that has had two well-received film adaptations.
They actually did the whole [the damage of weapons depends on who uses them] thing, that, even when you ignore the woke, disqualifies this entire dumpster fire of a show.
When the Elites breach the gate of the dirty rebel outpost. You can see a Minigun on a Truck shooting into the Elites and it Literally does nothing to their shields. Then chief picks up the minigun and slaughters dozens of elites super easily and Melts Their shields.
6:12 "A heavy water extraction planet but said heavy water isn't really a factor, what they really do there I think is mine deuterium. What's deuterium you ask, I don't know, they don't tell us, you might as well call it unobtainium" Someone didn't much pay attention in middle school... Heavy Water is the colloquial name for Deuterium Oxide, which is just water whose Hydrogen atoms are mostly Deuterium ones (Deuterium being an isotope of Hydrogen with 1 proton and 1 neutron instead of just the 1 proton).
The whole subplot (now plot as of episode 2 at this point) of the insurrectionists fighting for freedom is so much worse than that. It’s worth noting there are several groups of insurrectionists, the most notable being the United Rebel Front, and some are more comparable to paramilitary forces than guerrillas or partisans. And while they have a point about the earth government, many if not some are arguably not good people. When the UNSC reached out to offer amnesty and unity after the Covenant showed up, the rebels of course didn’t listen until another world was attacked, and from there many chose survival over ideology. Those who didn’t either continued fighting or fled and hid. In fact the novel Cole Protocol focuses on an entire community of independent humans living in a massive complex sprawling multiple asteroids called the Rubble caught in the midst of a scheme. And Chief remembering his past is a complete bastardization as it’s the total opposite of what Halsey did in the lore. She intentionally told the children the truth about being conscripted for a program and not being able to go home to eliminate the risk of defection. Some did try running from time to time, but the risk of them turning on the UNSC was neutralized.
Yours is the review I've been waiting for. Clearly, this is a cut and dry case of pop culture appropriation. And just like so many other IPs Hollywood has trashed...from DragonBall, StreetFighter, King Of Fighters, He-Man twice, and more recently Cowboy Bebop...this is just latest violation.
The masterchiefs mask is never meant to come off so the player imposes his own ideal look on him under the armour I picture it's the Great Khali, other people might imagine its themselves doing the tasks
Thories you should watch Reacher a new Amazon series based on Lee Child books about Jack Reacher. It is a good series who tells the tale of the first book. Tom Cruz made two movies from this books. It is not woke and it actually has a real masculine male lead :) The Sjw Whould hate it for being "Toxic Masculine" tv show :). People should know of this Anti Woke show. You can also review the movie Karen just like Az who made a very funny review :)
The first Reacher movie a spectacular. I know nothing about the book series but the movie is well paced, well acted, the mystery is well constructed, and the action is well done. The second movie I've forgotten the details about but I remember it being at most fine. The show is pretty damn good. Has some stumbling blocks but is pure entertainment.
Reacher was woke af, bro A 100 lbs female outsmarts and jills two trained Special Forces soldiers, and everyone in the southern town is apparently racist towards the black detective....
@@dragonchr15 There is always traces of wokeness it is modern media but 95 percent of the show was not woke. It followed the first book story for the most part that was made more than 20 years ago before the woke age.
So if this show wasn't made for fans of the games and wasn't made to be accessible for new fans, who exactly do they think is going to be watching?
Twitter weirdos. Who won't.
FYI deuterium is an isotope of hydrogen in real life, (its used in nuclear fusion or at least people's attempts to make fusion work & no doubt has other uses) so is presumably being extracted from the heavy water (Im not a halo player so there might be some difference in the game).
It was made to promote the message. Nothing more.
Plz review moon knight
@@oiwithyou the twitter weirdos promote it they don’t actually watch this shit lmao
Imagine Peter Jackson saying "No, I didn't read any book of the LOTR because I didn't want my creativity to be limited"
Umm... that's why the new LoTR series is going to be even better!
Lol jk
That’s what is wrong with things today. If the makers of Star Trek, and Star Wars had actually seen and UNDERSTOOD the franchises, a cadet (Kirk) wouldn’t be given command of a starship. Or a kid (Rey) wouldn’t do none of the things she does and no other Jedi in 30 years ever does to show how “powerful” she is.
They read the wiki page and went from there.
jesus, sounds like what he did with the Hobbit trilogy lol
@@Phoenix0F8 ohh wait for the new serie!! 🤢🤮😂
@@josebrown5961 na most the wiki pages are quite in depth if you look at anything besides the original and prequal they saw the brand money nothing else
'It's not about money, it's about sending a message. Everything burns!'
- The Joker (noted social justice warrior)
We live in a social structure.
It’s about the Mets baby! The Mets! I love the Mets!
@@zogwort1522 Ah, but outrage doesn't make money when those being outraged responded by _not_ buying the product. Outrage mongering works for the news because that very outrage is caused by a product already sold by the time people get angry, but this kind of outrage does nothing but lose money as the product requires people to buy it _after_ they've been infuriated. This failing of the outrage scheme is why companies are beginning to shift away from this model or are starting to full on collapse if they refuse to.
So Thorias, Mercy in the games was one of the three main leaders of the covenant along with the prophets of Truth and Regret. Together the three lead the covenant on a religious holy war against humanity. In the games, under no circumstance would Mercy of all three prophets have even allowed a human to breath in his presence. He was probably the most dogmatically vicious in his beliefs from the way he's portrayed in Halo 2.
It was almost despairingly comedic in showing just how little f**ks they gave about this series and the fans
@@jessicaavery1080 I guess I'm up for something different, but it seems like a pretty big difference to have the prophets of the covenant interacting with a human. Like, I feel the prophets of the games would have mutilated this human beyond recognition, had some secret order of elites encase that mangled husk barely clinging to life inside some sort of sarcophagus and then brand every elite who carried out those orders as heretics and execute them. Then they'd have claimed the thing clinging to life in the sarcophagus was a forerunner and that it was aiding them along the great journey.
@@grammification Wow this for sure! Even if they need a cheap human characters in the Covenant so they can get bad guy scenes for cheap, having them as a prisoner encased as a "forerunner artifact" and a secret kept from the other elites and brutes (and maybe even other prophets) would have been SOOOOOOO much better.
possible. Truth, Mercy and Regret were the only one who knew the truth about the connection Humans and Forerunner, since Humans can access Forerunner tech much easier and to use the Halo ring. Halo 3 Truth keep Johnson alive. Regret met Ander from Halo wars. yet both case were with human being prisoners.
of course the show can't understand the reasons.
@@bloodysimile4893 True, I just got vibes especially from Mercy that he wouldn't tolerate a human's presence. Or certainly wouldn't regard them as a "blessed one". Truth from the games might have, he seemed to be even more manipulative than Regret and Mercy.
So sick of no name actors insisting on having their faces being exposed. Don't take the job if you don't want to wear the costume!
I was a Voice actor for over 20 years. I was proud of the roles I got to play.
You would think that an actor would LOVE the chance to put their stamp on a character without having to have their face shown.
Look at Captain Phasma, she kept her hat on for two movies. We didn’t need to see her face. She was able to give the character all it needed with just her voice and body-like an ACTOR.
I was a VOICE actor and my face wasn’t part of it. The role of Master Chief is the same.
@@josebrown5961 damn straight and good on you for realising that acting doesn't require showing yourself and also glad to see a voice actor! You guys made my childhood to teen years.
@digifalc0087 Mine too.👍
its incredible the amount of ego the people making shit have nowadays even when they have done nothing of note. Even the writers are like this. A complete no name writer doesnt want 'his vision' limited by the source material. Excuse me, who the fuck are you to think you can just come and rewrite a 20 year old IP in your image. They should be basically plagiarizing the games in hopes of making something good just to get their names out there. Then you can make 'your stories' in an original series.
Karl Urban, a reasonably well known actor, did Judge Dredd without ever taking his helmet off. What a legend.
New adaptation of a loved ip , let's see:
Character deconstrotion ✅
Making the whole story about a female/non white/mb even non cis non hetero ✅
General exclusion of the game influence ✅
Unwarranted dislike for the core fanbase ✅
Villain is a white guy ✅
Bad world building ✅
Characters acting stupid for plot convenience ✅
Barely at the first episode and we're already getting all those , and judging on the fact that they're supposed to wow us by putting more resources here to keep an audience for the rest of the show I think it's fair to say it's only downhill from here...unless you're in for inclusion ,diversity, tearing down the patriarchy and all that oh! so enlighten trend of ruining everything for the message
The problem is that the creative process in large sections of the entertainment industry has become ossified (in my opinion). There simply isn't the range and depth of talent any more because everybody who doesn't subscribe to the progressive orthodoxy has been edged out of the industry. The people that are left are simply incapable of writing a good story and are opposed to using the original source material because it doesn't fit in with their ideology. Why would they be interested in looking at a game where the main character is a white male hero?
The thing that inspired awe when i was young playing Halo for the first time was the fascinating idea of existing on an orbiting halo while battling alien species. Never did i care about the characters or politics. The Red vs. Blue series went on for years without needing ANYTHING but the game and exploring lore. They bought out and sold out another loyal following
Damn the Red Vs Blue series from Recreation to the Chorus Trilogy had amazing storytelling. Never did I think a comedy series could have suggest a compelling story and characters. The voice acting too...the chemistry between the actors is amazing and never in my opinion has a show so fluidly balanced and switched between dark character moments like Church's and the directors story, the abuse of the freelancer program and the A.I and then perfectly balance that out with the quirkiness of the Reds and Blues. The character development was insane for them too. The Blood Gulch trilogy was fine though it is more skits roughly tied together with a kinda sort of story but in my opinion don't hold a candle to Recreation all the way going to the Chorus Trilogy. Which in my opinion is where it ended.
It's really crazy that Rooster Teeth went full woke considering how they started. You could not publish the jokes they made in the first few seasons of RvB today without getting torch and pitchfork'd by the twitter crowd.
@@Phoenix0F8 as an Iowan when Donut said he was from Iowa and everyone literally goes “nobody cares”
I still hurt laughing They had it perfect
25:33 Kwan says at one point that the colonies would believe her and the scientist's daughter responds "But we have everything on record". Well they also have this very same exchange between Kwan and the emissary, where the Korean teenager overtly admits "what if I lie and... "
The UNSC could just broadcast that and let the galaxy know their version before Kwan even gets the chance to walk out of their custody.
No assassination required. But then the authors would have to invent some other reason for the stand off at the end of the episode.
I don’t even know how this stupid 14 year old is so important. Why do they even need her? Why does everyone want her? It makes no sense.
Yeah wait a second, why would they even be afraid of kwans lie. Let the 14 year old lie and destroy her own story by saying the unsc attacked. Then just post the pictures of the covenant and the plasma burn worlds on the victims basically proving it couldn’t be the unsc since they don’t use plasma based weaponry. It would make kwan look like some stupid child that made things up to hurt the unsc and only help the unsc.
@@edwardrichtofen8530 Again stupid writers.
@@josebrown5961 which sucks cause why are we stuck with shit stupid preach writers meanwhile anime has amazing writing. Like look how well crafted berserk was. And we are stuck with jj
@@edwardrichtofen8530 Didn't they also just killed the covenants and had tons of corpses? Plus, from what was being said, if everything was also on record, wouldn't everything together just completely destroy everything the lady says and, most importantly, give them proof of alien attack and they wouldn't even need the teenage girl in the first place?
Actually, why do they even need the teenage girl in the first place, do anything to her or even breath in her direction? They have bodies of aliens, weapons of aliens and an entire colony of dead colonists who they can use to prove it was covenant attacks? Why would they even care about needing a civilian in the first place, let alone fear her?
"not seeing the guy's face wasn't doable"
Ahem:. Did you forget how popular the Mandalorian is?
And no, not in the entirety of the Halo franchise do we see Master Chief's face as an adult. At the end of Halo 4 we see the top of his head and down to his eyes, but that's it.
Even shots of him as a child are a cartoon.
But we did see the Mandalorian's face too.
@@OceanbornAngel only twice tho
I dont think showing his face is necessarily bad. Mando doesn't show his face because its a thing of religious zealotry (and he still does it). Chief not showing his helmet is purely a game meme and has no basis in the actual narrative. Heck he's even shown taking off his helmet in CE, just the camera pans away. But the way he does it just feels weird in this.
@@Janx14 He mainly didn't do it in the game because by that point, it kept up the air of mystery. The other members of Blue Team didn't take theirs off that often either though. But new spartans tended to, like Fire Team Osiris.
But the main thing here is that the Chief would never remove his helmet in a situation where it was more tactful to keep it on. The chief was/is a soldier, first and foremost. And by making him more emo, they're straying AWAY from his character. Remember, Cortana made him promise to find out which one of them was the machine. Chief has always been stoic, non-talkative and non-emotional. That didn't mean he wasn't caring, compassionate, etc. just that he wasn't emotional.
But frankly, this is just the least of their crimes with the writing/storytelling in this series. It's a travesty and I can only pray that they actually DON'T make the Mass Effect series I've actually been hoping that they would for all this time. While ME has the story potential of GoT & better, I don't trust them to do it justice in today's climate & with today's priorities. I'm severely concerned about Babylon 5 too, even though JMS is supposedly in full creative control, I don't even trust him not to mess it up at this point. I'd rather they just leave the old series alone. Babylon 5 was perfect. It doesn't need a reboot or continuation or sequel.
Karl Urban's Judge Dredd as entered the chat.
Halo: Reach did a great job of showcasing why civilians were afraid of the Spartan teams, without making the Spartans into outright monsters who apparently murder families and children on the regular. There's a fantastic scene in the first mission where they find a frightened civilian and we get some exposition where some of the colder members of the team just brush her off, but there's a moment that I think the show lifted from the game (despite the top writers claiming to have not even played the games...) where Jorge takes off his helmet and speaks to her in her native language to try to calm her down. It's a nice touch, and it's subtle- unlike what this nightmare sounds like.
Jorge was the more empathic Spartan 2 compared to the other Spartans. He's basically the gentle giant to civilians
Master Chief is not Jorge
@@Hawkcam1996 I think th OP means that it didn't have to be Master chief who took his helmut off to kwan, hell they could've done that scene differently with a different Spartan
@@colnelScar2 That's what I meant, yes. It may not have even been inspired by the Reach scene, but the way Thorias described it definitely reminded me of Reach and how good it was at portraying the Spartans as somewhat separate from normal humans, but still people we wanted to root for.
Chief just feels wrong in general. Like someone running off of chief memes and not knowing his character. Spartans have emotions, and personalities, and do think. Just look at Noble team in Reach, or....even the rest of Silver Team. Spartans have a very different life, but they aren't robocop.
This show being on Paramount Plus was warning enough that it was going to suck.
So, the alien artifact gives Master Chief basic human empathy he didn't have before and produces an electrical thing that does completely opposite effects depending on who it hits? It's the Joker's joy buzzer from Batwoman!
Hahah oh god, it is... but please no 😭
That can't be a good sign...
Also reminded me of the magic mcguffin the androids had in season 1 of picard. Its the 'we need it to do plot relevant thing' device.
seriously from my understanding, the UNSC in this show seems to care more about farmers with bootleg AK-47's than a multi species religious alien regime that has technology nearly a millennia ahead of them and upon first contact with them completely and obliterates a town full of people regardless of age or gender, but no the problem is the farmers. I've read at least 4 of the books one of them being contact harvest and the minute the UNSC learned about the covenant they immediately did a 180 and switched like 98% of there attention to the Covenant.
According to the show, the Covenant and the UNSC have been fighting for several months when the first episode takes place. According to the creators the humans still don't know why the Covenant wants.
@@ArthurRex131 haven’t multiple worlds already been glassed in the show? This is just some bullshit to make muh government bad crap and rebels good. Even though in halo the UNSC were very much the good guys
@@ArthurRex131 seems like after four months of fighting an alien invasion.... the aliens mighy be hostile. Just saying. This is bad story telling, if to understand the TV show you have to read a bunch of books to explain why the TV show makes no sense.
The Covenant are established right off the bat to be opposed to the UNSC and the genocidal fanatics that we know. The UNSC in the show doesn't dispute or deny that. They still don't know WHY the Covenant are glassing their worlds, though, according to the showrunners or somesuch thing. Which makes sense since the Covenant wouldn't care to tell a species they view to be on the same level as infectious bacteria why they were out to erradicate them from the galaxy. And how is it "some bullshit" to show that the UNSC aren't a perfect society? I call that Storytelling 101. Your good guys should have flaws and not be super perfect so they can be more believable as characters/organizations.
@@RantTheRetort The UNSC is well aware that the covenant is hostile. They don't know WHY the coventant is hostile yet because the covenant aren't big on talking to a race they view as an infectious disease..
In the games it is indeed extraordinarily rare to see the Master Chief's face... in fact, I don't think it happens in a game until the *end* of 4 or 5? It's very late in the game. In the books, it's far less a rare thing as there are times when he isn't in a forward combat zone and on a space ship or at a primary military base world and is wearing dress uniform and *not* the MJOLNIR armor - all really normal stuff that makes sense but, otherwise, the Spartan II's generally feel like the MJOLNIR armor is their second-skin - they spend so much time in them and they work so well with them (suits were specifically made for their augmented biology) that they're more at-home in them than out.
The funny thing is that, in the books, Master Chief comes to have a really, really devoted view to the sanctity of human life after he gets some perspective due to the war with the Covenant and general military service that he does go out of his way, when he can, to *not* kill fellow humans... but I can't see him ever taking off his helmet to placate *one* human, especially a total asshole like Quan. Not that a regular human would have a hope in hell of shooting him anywhere, nevermind in the face when he's looking at them, but he knows his value and his value to his team and to humanity as a whole... I can't see him jeopardizing that for some scrublord rebel.
You never really see Master Chief's face in the games, at the very best you get a 'shadows over any defining features' shot where you can see that he's pale and has a buzzcut; never the full face or something to emote with or treat casually.
If his face needed to be shown it should have happened in the bungie games. Neither 343 nor this garbage show deserved to have that big moment. And to do it so early is even more offensive
It is just like The Mandalorian. We fans DON’T care what Master Chief looks like. But an actor spent his career in front of CAMERAS. So of course whoever they hire is gonna get his face seen.
With Boba Fett we had a reason in the story. The Mandalorian did a decent job, him only taking off his helmet to show the child. Master Chief is out of his helmet in the first episode?
Again these producers read the wiki - not the actual source material.
That because as a first person shooter you are master chief. He was never meant to have a face. The story was about you fighting the war as a spartan originally. It moved own in the later games into a story about master chief but as the player it's you
@@josebrown5961 well, he is out of his suit for the second…
Yeah...in the games the Covenant were so dogmatically anti-human that Mercy would not have even tolerated one breathing the same air in the same room.
Which begs the question as to why this one is being allowed to live,. A question I'd rather like to know the answer to.
@@ArthurRex131 I'll save you some time. SPOILER ALERT: Because the writers are lazy, talentless narcissists who have zero respect for the IP, the fans, and the intelligence level of their audience.
They know that without the IP nobody would ever give their lackluster generic assembly-line cliche-fest one millisecond of their time. That fills them with overflowing resentment for the IP itself even as they know they are utterly dependent upon it. Which further fuels their resentment and entirely deserved feelings of inadequacy. Like a child who hates a hard, strict but otherwise good parent.
There ya go. Asked and answered. Yer welcome, choom.
@@TheCrimsonRevenger this does not answer my question at all in the slightest. In fact, this entire reply reads like someone who is kneejerking because the show isn't an exact shot for shot recreation of the story from the games.
@@ArthurRex131
She's a mcguffin or some shit
@@ArthurRex131 just saw the second episode.. God you are probably going to be livid with this
It really says a lot when a small collection of anime short films understand Halo a lot more than the actual TV show itself.
These authors really have a thing with finding out you had special powers all along that THE MAN tries to keep you from finding, huh?
Remember when we thought we couldn’t go any lower than Halo 5? Now we’ve got TLJ: The series on our hands, it’s gonna get MUCH worse from here.
Its pretty much all those themes and plot ideas 343 tried and failed with for the first half of their tenure with halo. Rogue chief, UNSC bad, etc. I'm going to guess Infinite got spared those because those members of 343 were too busy with the show.
@@Janx14 or they finally got fired in the six years between infinite and 5...one can only hope.
200+ script rewrites and this is what we get. As a huge HUGE halo fan, this broke my heart.
Fr, damn.
Canon accuracy aside its really shocking just how bad this script is. I can only imagine it got approved because Microsoft stopped caring due to 343 running the franchise into the ground the last decade.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't sending a strikeforce of exclusively Elites vs an unimportant human outpost a laughable violation of Covenant Battle Doctrine?
Seems like a job for Jackals and Grunts with one or two Elite supervisors.
You’re 100% correct
You think they know that? All these idiots probably think is the covenant is full of elites.
As I understand it, the Elites were there to excavate the cave and didn't engage the humans until Kwan discovered them. I could be wrong though.
Also don't forget the Brutes😁
@@thoriasunlimited4053 This. The Elites were there to retrieve a holy relic, not purge the population. Episode 2 suggests Madrigal actually has proper cities, so im guessing the covenant didn't want to attract attention to this planet....despite apparently attacting enough attention that the UNSC sends the best of the best to go stop them.
Deuterium is an isotope of water, also called heavy water. It is used in some fission nuclear reactors to slow down neutrons. There are other, non nuclear, industrial applications
*Of Hydrogen not water but its contained within heavy water
Its also used as a fuel in Star Trek. Seeing how this is a Paramount show... they decided to just poach some fake science from another sci-fi show.
@@Coramelimane no it is in halo read the Cole protocol witch this show is following
@@Coramelimane not fake science, but it's mostly theoretical. It's also not used exclusively by Star Trek - it's pretty common for anything involving a fusion application, especially in military sci-fi.
Deuterium is used mostly in nuclear fields, but its use is expanding. It's relatively easy to get from heavy water, which is relatively easy to get from regular water You can make deuterium at home with careful application of electrolysis Heavy water itself is less than $100 per gallon, very cheap for a chemical. It would have made more sense for the show to make a stink about lithium mining, but lithium is necessary for the current crop of electric cars.
Imagine if Marvel Studios hit my line telling me "Hey, do you want to direct Spider-Man 4"? I say yes but I never read a single Spider-Man comic in my life. In order to make an adaptation of something, DO YOUR DAMN HOMEWORK!
They already do that. One of the writers for Wanda vision never knew who Mephisto was in regards to Wanda.
The part about Spartans being originally basically UNSC hitmen used for targeted killing of rebel leaders is actually in the canon lore. The Spartans were a secret though at that point unless I am mistaken. After the war against Covenant started Spartans were revealed as a trump card against the alien and their shady origin was kinda swept under the rug. And admiral Parangosky being an a-hole is accurate to the lore too. That being said everything else about the show seems wrong - especially how they sort of mashed up elements from very different time periods - war against the covenant lasted nearly 30 years (with the games taking place toward the end) and the whole story of Spartans is even longer.
Umm in the novels you mean?
Interestingly, they don't seem to have been employd in that anti-dissident/inssurgency role that much because the war with the Covenant started soon afterwards.
I think Chief himself only went on one single operation against Issurectionists before shifting his focus almost entirely to the war with the Genocidal Aliens.
@@andrewphillips8341 The Novels and games explain most of this. Reach is an example. This show has a decent sprinkle of lore- but the execution is just way too rushed and piss poor. Im still gunna give it a chance but.... yikes and the Actor of MC... they couldnt get anyone closer to the stoic MC voice... and pulling off the helmet in episode one... ffs. he's one of the greated masked/ rarely unmasked video game characters out there.
I think the difference is in the books the Innies were shown to also be bad (or at least, not angels). They're usually introduced in scenes where they are planning terrorist attacks or stockpiling weapons of mass destruction. In the 2 episodes we have they're arguably the good guys and shown to just be doing their own thing at a mining site. The only bad innie we see is one that was the UNSC puppet dictactor. The UNSC gives no real counter argument to anything the innies accuse of them of. Its one thing to bring more light to the innies, which I don't think is a bad idea, but its another to oddly villain bat the UNSC while making the innies look like innocent people.
Its an especially odd path to take when the majority of your starting fanbase is going to games only people who are primarily there to see the big green man fight aliens. Portraying him and his organization as the bad guys feels insulting.
The original Halo takes place right at the start of the covenant war.
Deuterium is an isotope of hydrogen with one proton and one neutron as opposed to ordinary hydrogen which only has a proton. Heavy water is water where the hydrogen component is either deuterium or tritium, which has two neutrons. These heavier isotopes of hydrogen are valuable for military and industrial applications since they will undergo nuclear fusion at lower temperatures and pressures. None of which makes the show good, but this pretty basic physics, and it is much better grounded in reality than much of sci-fi.
Deuterium is hydrogen with an atomic mass of 2.
Heavy water is water with Deuterium instead of regular hydrogen.
It has a role in nuclear moderation. It is more dense than regular water so it slows down neutrons.
...And?! Where do they use it and is so important? In spaceships, generators? What they need to say it!!
@@Raximus3000 it is used in creation of nuclear fuel and weapons. It may have tons of uses in the future.
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Good to know the show does not seem to think it is important or what is the state of humanity.
@@Raximus3000 it probably is very important, maybe even on the level of oil in our universe.
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...They could not even say that? Talk about sloopy story telling.
Since the people who made it never apparently even played the game, who is surprised?
What they actually said was they didn't look to the games for inspiration. They looked to other sources like the books for inspiration. It sounds like you and others on this thread were expecting a 1-1 adaptation of the games, and are upset that you didn't get it.
I don't watch movies or tv shows anymore but it's really great to see how far your channel has come. I've followed you since fk9 days
Congratulations on being a simpleton... you're not impressing anyone.
You don't watch movies or television shows anymore? Why?
Chief “remembering” things and going rogue is nonsense. In the novel The Fall of Reach, Halsey is advised to use chemicals to wipe the minds of then-6-year-old Spartan candidates. She refused that option, explicitly expressing that she wanted to prevent the specific scenario that we’re now seeing in the show. (For all the terrible things Halsey did to the Spartans, she did care about their psychological well-being and tried to minimize the damage done to them.)
The majority of Spartans - including Chief - wouldn’t go rogue simply because they remembered their childhoods. Their childhoods are something that they’re willing to leave undisturbed in favor of the purpose-filled lives they’ve been given. (There’s room for commentary about that, and the franchise has touched upon that in the past, but not like this.)
The show takes place in an alternate continuity from the original Halo games, so I don't think those books apply.
@@ArthurRex131 True, yet I think this is a prime example of how little the show runners understand about HALO. They are trying to establish drama using low-hanging fruit that contradicts the fundamentals of the series. (The same goes for Makee and whatever they are trying to do with her.)
If they wanted to do a series about a Spartan going rogue because of some revelation, it should be over something that would actually rattle the Spartans. ONI did all sorts of abhorrent things that would make for far more interesting "going rogue" stories. The showrunners just had to put in the effort. If they DID want to use the Spartan-II program as the inciting incident of this storyline, it should have been about a non-Spartan going rogue and Master Chief being forced to confront the ethics of his creation as a result of hunting down this rogue element.
So your solution is to effectively make Chief an antagonist on his own show?
@@ArthurRex131 why the fuck should he even be the antagonist? Having chief act like chief would make him the antagonist? Why are the unsc portrayed as the bad guys? Your solution is to drastically change both chief and the unsc instead of deleting kwan and keeping the old story.
Yep. In fact the Spartans knew about their tragic childhood but (especially when the covenant arrived) accepted that fact and knew it was for the greater good.
Deuterium is what makes heavy water. Rather than the typical hydrogen in a water molecule, it is oxygen bonded with a form of hydrogen that has a neutron as well as a proton.
3:36-3:38
"It's a Different universe" rhetoric is why rippa hates multiverses because it becomes a free for fall.
I have my own thoughts about different universes but I can agree that it's getting irritating when Hollywood hacks don't want to follow through with the lore & just do whatever the fuck they want it show's how lazy, uninspired & Creatively bankrupt they are.
They seem to always find the one universe where the hero has to be a young POC girl.
@@robertdouth8979 Yeah one that doesn't even get Developement, Struggle or go through any adversity whatsoever & is just praised as super amazing & badass.
I f***ing hate multiverses, the ultimate get out of jail free card for lazy writers and showrunners.
Rippa's not wrong. This multiverse shit is getting out of hand. So many Hollywood hacks are using it as an excuse to get really f***ing lazy.
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Don't watch sliders lol that show was bad & definitely made me agree with rippa.
These lunatics have the same mindset as Dr Who, Witcher, He-Man, Trek. Who basically came out and said the same as Klutzman about Trek saying we dont want Trekkies we dont care about canon its our own platform. Thats why its trash and no-one watches any of the shows they put out. Halo is another go woke go broke example by having Master Chief as a cameo in his own show cos its all about the girl with the key to everything as usual...smh
I hope the show fails spectacularly, they just changed everything to create an abomination. And didn’t they call it silver timeline after the backlash from when they said they weren’t following the lore of the games? Awful.
THIS IS PARAMOUNT+ THE SAME PEOPLE THAT MAKES STAR TREK DISCOVERY, DID YOU REALLY BELIEVE THIS WAS GONNA BE GOOD?
Calm down.
Nope, there is no way it could be good.
Caps Lock key stuck?
They don't make star discovery paramount don't own the series they only make star trek movies
@@EmperorDxD THEY OWN CBS OF COURSE THEY OWN STAR TREK.
I think the scene with the girl refusing to cooperate and trying to use the situation could have worked if they had established two things. One, her father was a leader and if they had show that she was well known like him (maybe she stood beside him at most of his speeches/made her own speeches) her threat to lie about what happen would have held more weight. Two they could have established that maybe it was her young nieveness that made her think this was a good opportunity to seek independence, aka have a scene with her and her father where he's basically drilling into her head that they must do what ever it takes to gain independence earlier then when this scene comes up it could be her repeating a bunch of the lines not realizing due to her youth that this may not be the best time to do so when such threat threatens to wipe out her entire colony.
There's always a chance in later episodes they could reveal more information that makes these actions make more sense, Problem with the netflix moddle of releasing all episodes at once now that a lot of places are going back to weekly (for more money) people are used to having all the answers right a way, but then again writers not bothering to give backstory to peoples motivations and assuming audience members will understand what they're trying to do is a big problem with writing these days.
So about the memory erasure stuff. It is brought up in the books during the early days of the Spartan-II program. Halsey states they will not do it because if something happens and the Spartans begin to remember or find out they were lied to, they run a high likelihood of the Spartans rebelling. So they tell the Spartans the truth from the start. Funny how the books already went over the logical conclusion of this and they end up using the exact opposite for the show and low and behold, the thing Halsey states would happen in the books, happens in the show.
Yeah in this timeline halsey is dumb, like keeping the super secret & illegal cortana project in the middle of UNSC HQ in a side room of her main lab, where Parangosky can just walk in and go "no, don't".
TBH i always found Parangosky not knowing what Halsey was up to in the books pretty questionable as is, but at least in the main timeline Halsey operated out of remote labs like Sword Base and not a brisk stroll from Parangosky's office.
This is not Halo, this is the Mandalorian with a coat of Halo paint.
That's probably it or boba fett
I think a recurring problem show-writers have is they don't know how to convey messaging subtly. So you end up with these preachy characters who just naturally incline people to hate them, because people don't like being lectured, particularly by people who are lecturing absent any connection to logic or actual events. Add to that the infuriatingly common response by established characters of "Wow, they're so right! I've been terrible but this wonderful person has shown me the way, let me follow them to the ends of the earth."
In case anyone _is_ wondering what Deuterium is, it’s a naturally occurring isotope of hydrogen, which has a neutron in addition to the proton in its nucleus.
(Who let all those crickets in here…)
Now we know why one the showrunner left before this show came on cause just saw the first episode and to be honest … him taking his helmet off killed it for me, Bruh Mando kept his helmet on longer than master chief and it got worse when see a human ally with the covenant
This show could have started with the creation of the Spartan 2, the abducted, brainwashed and tortured children, worked from there to show Master Chief's creation and upbringing and show how the Spartans were created to be the perfect tools for the political leaders to use to quash all resistance against them and show how ruthless they became, before the Covenant show up and the Spartans were then turned on humanity's enemies. Which, if I remember, was how the actual creation of the Spartans came to be. Even if it is not beat for beat or if I am remembering some things wrong, it still will be more faithful then this show ever will be.
So basically a live action adaptation of the fall of reach but better than the animated atrocity and improves upon the book by adding Sangheli?
@@yugglesandstone Yup.
Hey Thorias you skipped a very important point, the soundtrack. Halo has one of the best if not the best soundtrack in FPS history. The sound track feels weird, like they changed 20% of it in order to not pay rights. And its a shame.
He mentioned that he likes the OSTs so much that he owns them even though he's only played the first game.
I'm glad he didn't go through every scene in the episode and talk about how Track X, Y, or Z from the OST would be better than what was used.
I mentioned the OST's of the games and they're awesome. By comparison, the soundtrack of the show felt very generic. There was one musical cue near the end I noticed that felt like the ones from the game, otherwise it was a pretty big letdown.
While I think having the main OST going all the time in this show would feel weird with its less...action movie style tone and pacing, the ost is extremely generic. The problem continues in episode 2 as well, even during some establishing shots that could have used a halo riff.
Deuterium is heavy hydrogen. It's H2. Used for fusion reactors as fuel for those wondering. :)
I called IT when they anounced it.
I callet IT, and IT said:
"Don't bother, gonna be shit. Here have a Balloon instead."
Deuterium is essentially a hydrogen isotope, and is used to make heavy water for nuclear reactors, afaik.
It has future applications as a fusion fuel, which is the likely primary use.
Thanks for the heads up. I am a big fan of the Halo franchise. I would of been pissed watching this episode if not for your review. Thanks for taking one for the team.
For what it's worth, Thorias, the other reviews of this episode echo what you said: it started out great, then went off the rails after that first battle.
That seems to be the general consensus right now. I've got enough time to watch episode 2 before my free trial expires. I can only imagine how that turned out.
Deuterium is an isotope of hydrogen. Deuterium oxide is heavy water. So, as long as you brush up on your physics before watching the show, you'll be fine.
Been funnier if when the Master Chief took his helmet off, he had a tiny head.
"Made for no one other than the writers themselves. ", absolutely 110% right, writers today aren't just lazy, they are also insanely selfish!
Even the writers don't like it.
Deuterium is pretty well explained in several other comments here, but it's also used in multiple sci-fi stories (especially military sci-fi) for fusion reactions. Most of the stuff it's used for is not fake science either, though it *is* firmly theoretical - we don't do fusion reactors that well in real life, so making tech dependent on them like Hellbore cannons would be beyond us for a good while.
So Master Chief pulls a Sylvester Stallone and takes his helmet off.
Well that's just...wrong.
Hoo boy. This sounds like the start of Halo: The Batwoman Era
No one noticed that Quan kept the blood and brains of her friends on her face the whole time? That she didn't think to wipe her face like a human being would?
Um.. .. Deuterium IS heavy water...The more you know.
Doesn't ONI (spelling?) eliminate EVERYONE that learns of the Spartan's existence?
Like, they're top secret super soldiers made from kidnapped children that were tortured into perfection.
They don't want anyone questioning things, or learning of any secret weapons.
Until the Convenant showed up, at least. But as Halsey says, no one cared to ask any questions at that point.
"I hate to be that guy but there were no Halos in that show"
Paramount Plus Writers: "Whats a Halo? You mean Halo is something more then the video game title?"
The only thing this show did for me is make me realize "John Spartan" and cannot believe it has taking me over 20 years to realize this.
Deuterium is a hydrogen atom that has a neutron. When they are combined with an oxygen atom it forms heavy water
It is literally Halo 5 2.0 electric Boogaloo.
Halo being marketed to Normies and has Chief Go rouge and betray the UNSC because of past memories and an Evil Chick.
Rogue* not _rouge_ You things poison the well everytime you misspell things like that
If you want an idea of who they're making movies and shows for nowadays, look at a particular Pixar article for Turning Red where they say it literally out loud...
They are making movies and shows for THEMSELVES.
Whats amazing is Halo is not just a game - It's an expanded lore universe with existing TV/ movie media and books/ comics/ along with games as well, both FPS, and RTS.
To ignore ALL that because "the game is limiting to our medium" is the most ignorant thing of all time.
Edit* Deuterium is the scientific name for heavy water - they are the same thing.
Not surprising. Same thing happened with Star Wars. Rich material in books, comics and games that is being ignored in favor of trash stories like Mandalorian, BOBF, Cassian Andor etc
There was already two live action halo movies more accurate than this
So just small science note. Deuterium is an isotope of hydrogen that has two particles in its nucleus, hence the name... and a water molecule made with this hydrogen is called Heavy Water, which is theoretically(since we haven't build a working one yet) useful in fusion reactors, which is what the humans use in this setting... so basically it requires intimate knowledge of both the setting... and actual nuclear science because they couldn't be bothered to tell you anything.
I feel like I gotta say this: deuterium is an isotope of hydrogen, and heavy water is water (H2O) with deuterium as the H. Perhaps they should've explained that in the show, and hinted why it's valuable.
Uhh, it's valuable... because... uhh... we, we made a machine that works off of it. Yeah. So it's valuable now and we can't synthesize it (because, apparently, we can create supersoldiers with portable shields powered at several terrawatts but we've forgotten basic chemistry). So, yeah, it's SERIOUSLY important and SUPER rare and it can only be mined!
In case that wasn't obvious; I'm being sarcastic. The writers probably openend a science lexicon, found something sounding 'sciency' enough and went with "looks good to me, no one knows that stuff anyway".
I kinda wish that elites did not have energy swords and saving them for the Elite Ultras and Zealots. (Also make the Elites less bulky) They could have Jin get his neck broken by the Elite Major.
I have a feeling we won't be seeing the ultras or zealots.. I feel like we'd already see the grunts and brutes already if they were going to use them
@@roneherushin4638 Dude, it could have been a real way to put some stakes. That those were regular ground troops that were slaughtering regular people. When we would see the Ultras and Zealots we could really see some damage happening. Especially with Silver Team. Maybe someone might die on lose a limb on Silver Team.
I never have to watch any shows you review your breakdowns are so on point it's better than looking at it your the best keep up the good work my ninja
There was a time when we used to be excited when the mainstream adapted comic books, video games and other products from nerdom.
Those days are long gone.
Until the SJWs and the ESG standard is abolished, nothing will improve
Yes please continuing reviewing this show
Deuterium is an isotope of hydrogen which is found in heavy water. It is twice as heavy as the most common isotope of hydrogen, hence the "heavy" of heavy water. It is used in various capacities for nuclear reactions.
It feels like whoever wrote Quan's character took cues from Batwoman's Mary: an insufferably smug, self-righteous, ungrateful Asian chick that the audience is still meant to sympathize and identify with.
The show says the Spartans have chips that suppress there emotions. That irks me because the books made a point to state that the kids the kidnapped for the program KNEW what was happening so that they were less likely to rebel.
They were told day one when they woke up for Boot Camp they were never going home and that the UNSC along with there fellow trainees were there new family. That they would spend their lives training and would become the best of the best. That was Halsey speech to them and you hear snippets of it in the third game from the Cortana visions
Master Chief had red hair as seen in a childhood flashback in one of the games. They couldn't even get the hair right. They took his helmet off, which was already a mistake, and they couldn't even get the hair color right.
Redheads aren't allowed to exist in hollywood.
>humanity is being wiped out
>Labor unions are causing trouble instead of helping
Actually true to life.
Please please watch this show…. I really don’t want to 😂 I love how you break things down and make them more enjoyable than the original content.
They did say duterium was starship fuel, but it was an easy to miss line. Saying that, the showrunners were out and replaced before this episode dropped, so perhaps S2 will be a reboot...or just Batwoman all over again.
I believe the line was something about hydrogen being starship fuel and that it also made good drugs. I figured that was referring to deuterium, but I wasn't sure.
Deuterium : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deuterium
The Leaders of the Coveant would not allow a human to be alive within thier sight
Yes Spartans were orginally meant to quell a terrorist faction that wanted indepentance
Once the Coveant showed up, spartans were under orders to recover any and all alien tech
As for not seeing John 117's face, this was done with the orginal Judge Dreed film where thay had Dreed unmasked for most of the film (admittedly for plot reasons) but in the Dreed film, we never saw his face for the entire film and it worked fine
Paramount is a shadow of its former self when I worked there in the late 80's. But I could see all this happening. The Executives have gone nuts.
What did you do for Paramount years ago?
I worked for Gene Roddenberry. I worked there for almost 4 years. Running mail, escorting tours for people around the world. Those whom had access. I delivered things back and forth between the studio and the Talents home. I help sell things at the Star Trek conventions under Lincoln Enterprises. I played some aliens or person in the background. They took a full photo set of my head. They remarked how I looked like an alien. They apologized but I thought it a compliment because who I worked for 😆. I still have contacts at different levels, now at different studios. (Inside and contractors). It is fascinating what UA-cam gets leaked (the hosts commentaries) and how much of it I know to be false/true. And exactly who these leaks may come from. I respect NDA's I have never betrayed a confidence. Have a great weekend.
Had to drop the like at the Halo choir already! Bravo Thorias!
Thanks! I'm just glad it didn't sound like utter garbage because I didn't have any other ideas for an opening bit.
Jesus Christ, why didn't they just take notes from Forward Unto Dawn.
That movie was an excellent love letter to Halo while also portraying Chief as someone genuinely larger than life.
Even when sitting next to other Gen 2 Spartans, he feels like the odd man out; stronger and more laser focused on the conflict.
3:17 "A tv show would never work as a first person shooter."
Hardcore Henry: am i a joke to you?
sarcasm aside. good stuff as always thorias.
Was that originally cut as a show?
Hardcore Henry was an AWESOME movie! Not sure how they could do it as a show though.
@@thoriasunlimited4053 I mean, you could set it up as an homage to its FPS genre roots, treat every episode like a level with a distinct theme/location/palette/baddy type, that might be kinda fun, though it definitely would get tiresome if poorly executed.
@@thoriasunlimited4053 it would take brilliant writing and direction, but maybe some potential alternating perspectives could work maybe. IE we get 90% of masterchiefs interactions from a 1st person view. The rest would be 3rd person with "everyone else". It could easily be done so poorly it would be unwatchable , however, done right it could be "lightning in bottle" with tremendous work and foresight.
I really, really, don’t understand the trend of giving artists/creatives who don’t love or even enjoy a property, the greenlight to make shows and content about said property. Like, what’s the point?
HALO Scene One, Episode One:
Recruiter: "So, um, Mr. Masterchief - what's your first name?"
Masterchief: "Irving. Irving Masterchief."
...
they could've *absolutely* had Master Chief with his helmet on the whole time.
Coming from someone who knew absolutely nothing about Halo, I really enjoyed the first episode. Can't wait to get to know more about Master Chief, his background, how he became Master Chief, ... but am also invested in some of the other characters of whom I wish to learn more. Looking forward to the next episode in a few hours.
On a positive note: Forward to Dawn is getting a big shout out 👍
"Silver timeline" aka We have some shitty ideas. Yep, that worked out perfectly for Star Trek too 😏
-Yes, the Spartans did indeed fight human rebels for the UNSC.
-Humans did trade with alien species which are part of the covenant, but not officially, so human collaborators aren't unthinkable, especially if those devices are what I think they are.
-In the games most/all of the Spartans know they're stolen kids and don't care, especially Masterchief, so this conflict over his memories they're building up is pretty dumb.
There’s a part of me that’s like
“I knew this was gonna be bad as soon as they announced it… but maybe it won’t be as bad as Star Wars went…”
And then that trailer dropped and I went kinda positive with it like “okay so they actually put some money behind the name… we might actually have something here maybe”
And then I saw that they didn’t reference the games and immediately my opinion was ruined on this.
So I watched episode 1… and made a reaction video about how mad I was after spending time watching them trash my absolute favorite IP….
Star Wars, Gears of War, Halo are all dead now and whatever’s left is not made for me.
And that’s okay… I had 2008-2012. I played the hell outta H3 and ODST and of course Reach. I made friends and memories that even now I remember some really fun and good times playing online with my buds in HS. But our time has passed and now it belongs to 343 and Paramount.
To anyone that genuinely likes what they see on the screen with this show? Enjoy it. But for the vast majority out there similar to me… have hope. Some day this has to get better.
This series looks to be on par with the Milla Jovovich Resident Evil series and the 2021 Mortal Kombat movie. It's amazing that Sonic the Hedgehog is the only recent video game IP that has had two well-received film adaptations.
The sinister music when John shows up may be related to the father's expectations considering how the colony views the UNSC.
Oh sure, I got the point of it. I just thought the whole thing was ill-conceived and stupid.
@@thoriasunlimited4053 Gotcha. Yeah, I'm of the same mind.
I'm sensing a lot of the typical "I want huge payoffs for reveals, but I'm not willing to put in the work for them" crap we've been getting lately.
You are so cute when you rage. Yes more of this please
In two episodes, they only got 10 minutes correct.
They actually did the whole [the damage of weapons depends on who uses them] thing, that, even when you ignore the woke, disqualifies this entire dumpster fire of a show.
Wait what? But it's guns for the most part. Do they just shoot harder or something?
@@craigbolton2231 Ask Chef and the miniguns.
When the Elites breach the gate of the dirty rebel outpost. You can see a Minigun on a Truck shooting into the Elites and it Literally does nothing to their shields. Then chief picks up the minigun and slaughters dozens of elites super easily and Melts Their shields.
@@devildolphin2102 super easy, barely an inconvenience
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Dude the Chief made those “scary” elites look weaker than grunts with how easy he slaughtered them.
6:12 "A heavy water extraction planet but said heavy water isn't really a factor, what they really do there I think is mine deuterium. What's deuterium you ask, I don't know, they don't tell us, you might as well call it unobtainium"
Someone didn't much pay attention in middle school...
Heavy Water is the colloquial name for Deuterium Oxide, which is just water whose Hydrogen atoms are mostly Deuterium ones (Deuterium being an isotope of Hydrogen with 1 proton and 1 neutron instead of just the 1 proton).
You need far more subs. You're great and I love your sarcasm and wit.
Tell your friends lol.
The whole subplot (now plot as of episode 2 at this point) of the insurrectionists fighting for freedom is so much worse than that.
It’s worth noting there are several groups of insurrectionists, the most notable being the United Rebel Front, and some are more comparable to paramilitary forces than guerrillas or partisans. And while they have a point about the earth government, many if not some are arguably not good people.
When the UNSC reached out to offer amnesty and unity after the Covenant showed up, the rebels of course didn’t listen until another world was attacked, and from there many chose survival over ideology. Those who didn’t either continued fighting or fled and hid. In fact the novel Cole Protocol focuses on an entire community of independent humans living in a massive complex sprawling multiple asteroids called the Rubble caught in the midst of a scheme.
And Chief remembering his past is a complete bastardization as it’s the total opposite of what Halsey did in the lore. She intentionally told the children the truth about being conscripted for a program and not being able to go home to eliminate the risk of defection. Some did try running from time to time, but the risk of them turning on the UNSC was neutralized.
Yours is the review I've been waiting for. Clearly, this is a cut and dry case of pop culture appropriation. And just like so many other IPs Hollywood has trashed...from DragonBall, StreetFighter, King Of Fighters, He-Man twice, and more recently Cowboy Bebop...this is just latest violation.
Stick to the end of the first season Halo, see if it's gets better. Love your insight of the show Thorias Unlimited.
The masterchiefs mask is never meant to come off so the player imposes his own ideal look on him under the armour
I picture it's the Great Khali, other people might imagine its themselves doing the tasks
What the hell is happening to iconic franchises now?
They are bought and sold as assets, not stories.
They are tarnished and hollowed out beyond repair, by the time they move on to the next franchise the previous one is on death’s doorstep.
@@RogueFox2185 huh...like vampires.
@@oiwithyou I’d say more like the Dementor’s from HP, at least Vampires have empathy from time to time.
@@RogueFox2185 I'd argue they're exactly like vampires. They show fake empathy when it serves their purposes.
Thories you should watch Reacher a new Amazon series based on Lee Child books about Jack Reacher.
It is a good series who tells the tale of the first book.
Tom Cruz made two movies from this books. It is not woke and it actually has a real masculine male lead :) The Sjw Whould hate it for being "Toxic Masculine" tv show :). People should know of this Anti Woke show. You can also review the movie Karen just like Az who made a very funny review :)
The first Reacher movie a spectacular. I know nothing about the book series but the movie is well paced, well acted, the mystery is well constructed, and the action is well done.
The second movie I've forgotten the details about but I remember it being at most fine.
The show is pretty damn good. Has some stumbling blocks but is pure entertainment.
Reacher show sucks who gives a Damn if it's Anti Woke or Anti SJW that doesn't make it good.
Reacher was woke af, bro
A 100 lbs female outsmarts and jills two trained Special Forces soldiers, and everyone in the southern town is apparently racist towards the black detective....
@@dragonchr15 There is always traces of wokeness it is modern media but 95 percent of the show was not woke. It followed the first book story for the most part that was made more than 20 years ago before the woke age.
@@totomomo18 i never read the book so ill take your word