What DOES Teen Know? Agatha All Along Episode 3 Review and Reaction
Вставка
- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- Mephisto is mentioned in the MCU, finally! Secure your privacy with Surfshark! Enter coupon code BREAKROOM for an extra 4 months at surfshark.com/...
Agatha All Along brings us the mention of the devil, the coven's fear and more evidence that Teen could be Wiccan... OR Nicholas Scratch. Join Erik Voss, Jessica Clemons, Zach Huddleston, and Brandon Barrick as they discuss.
The Breakroom is a new channel from the same team that brought you New Rockstars and The Deep Dive covering all of the nerdy news you need to know, plus exclusive interviews, reactions, after shows, and more!
Subscribe: newrockstars.l...
Follow us on twitch! / breakroomnr
Check out our merch! www.NerdRiot.shop
Wanna send us something stupid? Use our PO Box:
135 E Olive Ave, Burbank CA 91502 PO Box: 4266
Host: Brandon Barrick
Host: Jessica Clemons
Host: Zach Huddleston
Host: Erik Voss
Producer: Evan Yee
Studio Technician: Dashiell Hamingson
Editor: Brian Kim
Head of Production: Producer: John Costa
For business inquiries please contact business@nrdigitalstudios.com
#thebreakroom #newrockstars #agathaallalong
IF you've seen the toy leaks do not spoil for everyone else! We do not talk about it in this episode :)
Don't forget to check out the Breakdown for all the Easter Eggs!
ua-cam.com/video/y9Lrp5OszAk/v-deo.htmlsi=kOSu2ozFituO1Yq0
I think Sharon died because she didn't put any of her own hair into the potion. So it didn't actually work on her. Kind of a give and take situation. In order to take, you have to give a bit of yourself. And she didn't, so even though they gave her the potion, it didn't have any effect on her.
I agree, I also noticed Sharon hair didn't make it into the potion
they did Sharon so dirty man, she didn't deserve all that
I want her to live but I agree with this also. She didn't give a piece of her hair.
Yeah, I thought the same thing they didn’t get a piece of her hair when they were doing the pot I think that’s what went wrong
I like this idea! I'd forgotten about the hair ingredient.
I love Jessica’s theory of Jennifer Kale being a midwife, and this is what Agatha was referencing when she said, “I have always hated you, but I left you alone because what you were doing was important. Not this Kale Kare crap, the real work.”
Brewing life.
OR: what if Jennifer Kale was brewing abortion brews
@@lowkeyproductions6681
Lowkey, that’s even better.
A witch making potions 🧪
What if she was working on an elixir of life and she was close to achieving it. Her experiments were prolonging the lives around her and that man that “bound” her was profiting off death somehow thus calling her an “inconvenient woman”.
What if she was Agatha’s dula :( this show better not wreck me
I disagree with the oven being a Sylvia Plath reference. I think it's more a Hansel and Gretel reference, because Lilia says she had a friend who died in an oven and "she had a nice house too," probably meaning the witch's gingerbread house. Hansel and Gretel are even in the end credits.
Right? That was a pretty obvious one I thought
@@AlecBaldwinsTriggerFinger exactly, and probably the average viewer doesn't know who Sylvia Plath is, plus there's a page from Hansel and Gretel in the end credits.
I also took the Hansel and Gretel story from that. I don't know who Sylvia Plath is, tbh.
I assumed Hansel and Gretel right away especially with the nice house reference and dying by stove all part of that story
I’m surprised not a lot of people are picking up on the hansel and gretel references, it just seems so obvious to me
I've been loving the show, i dont like how some commentators have reduced their opinion of the show to "its a show for women, i like it, but its not for me" idk kinda seems close mindes
Right? Women have been watching and relating to shows/books/movies about men our entire lives. Why is it such a leap?
I don't really see this as being a show for women. It's a show with women in it. Who are these commentators?
Those people are so insecure they are scared of seeing woman as a main character. They need their big boy tv shows
I’m a man and I love it 😈
My husband loves it
The fact that teen is able to say ANYTHING about his parents means that he MUST be lying about them, or is mistaken about them truly being his parents
Making rather generic comments about them (music tastes, cooking habits, etc.) is not revealing any specifics that could give away his identity.
@blakej1892 Maybe. But it's still potentially useful if, for example, you were trying to narrow down a list of suspects.
Astute observation
@@Goldenself Not sure how "likes to sous vide" narrows anything down. Now if they try more specific questions and the sigil doesn't work I'd agree. Maybe in another episode.
Or he’s not lying, since he’s talking about his mortal parents, the Kaplans, but any time it relates to magic/Wanda, it’s blocked cuz he got jinxed with the sigil when Billy Kaplan died
I think only one can make it to the end, and Agatha is holding that info back. That’s why she’s acting weird imo
That's what I think too but I excited to know what the so called "Prize" at the end of the road (if she ever did go on the road) is. It couldn't have been the Darkhold as it's alluded she sacrificed her son for the book. Maybe if they're going for an Agatha redemption arc she would use this Prize to resurrect her fallen witchy collegues (we all know some are gonna die as Rio Vidal said in the trailer that bodies are piling up) and Sharon and thus completing the true purpose of the Road : a true Coven. But that's just wishful thinking
That would also make sense why Agatha DIDNT bring Rio. They aren't allowed to kill each other, and knowingly bringing Rio would be effectively killing Rio
In regards to not understanding Agatha's motivation for going down the road, I think you all may be forgetting that she never actually intended to go down the road in the first place. Her plan was to lure the other witches to her basement, trick them into blasting her with their powers and sucking them dry so she could defend herself against the Salem Seven
If that was her plan (agatha) all along, then why did she reveal to Lillia that she can only steal magic if they blast her. She’d be foiling her own plan before it begins.
I think Agatha not want to go or even thinking about the road until Teen showing up and make up her mind. She also need her power back, so what choice she have now if not going to the road like Teen said.
@@larryjohnson5273 She only told LIllia, the person least likely to attack her anyway.
@@larryjohnson5273reverse psychology. She gave her “weakness” as a fake olive branch. I’m more curious thats she clearly walked down a very different version of the road which and it seems like there’s some unresolved issue on the road. I wonder if she truly completed it, otherwise why did she need the Darkhold?
I don’t think Agatha actual completed the Road and didn’t get the “prize”. Something happened and she cheated and I feel that’s how she got connected to Mephisto and somehow went on the path to get the Darkhold. I think she made a deal that didn’t give her ultimate power and the Darkhold was her fail safe to get out.
She wasn’t a villain in the comics and I feel like her portrayal now is the same. She may have developed this reputation due to some bad decisions and doesn’t mind taking what comes with it as long as she can achieve her goal, even if everyone thinks she is evil.
One deep probably far-fetched idea I have.
We all see how Lilia is getting a bunch of premonitions? I think one of them that she blurts out came true.
When Sharon says "get off me" when she was going off the path of the road at the beginning of the episode it kind of parallels the same tone and words that Lilia said in episode 2.
So what if Lilia is blurting out phrases that other characters would say in further episodes.
For instance, the "I love you guys" could be from the teen.
Oooooh that’d be cool!
That would be a very good use of her character.
The save Agatha line could also be from teen because the other witches don’t like her that much
VERY good point! That makes complete sense!
That’s brilliant. I wonder if “I love you guys” will come from Alice Wu, because she seems so far to be the most empathetic and kind hearted.
First, how did not one of you catch that they never put Sharon's hair in the potion? That's why she died. I did like that you caught that the friend in the oven reference was likely to Sylvia Plath. As for not knowing the character's motivations, I'm the exact opposite. I think we would be far less sympathetic to Agatha if we knew for a fact she was just using all these women and Teen. I think we got the most backstory about Jennifer the potions witch because she was focus of this trial. I think each trial will focus on a different witch. I think the Big Bad will turn out to be Agatha but it's past Agatha. The witch's road isn't just about getting her power back but is Agatha's redemption arc.
Was it explicitly shown that the others also put in their hair? I kind of assumed Agatha was the last person to put in their hair after everyone already did.
@@avhotaistudios1206They all waited for Agatha so they could put their hair in at the same time.
I think if they didn't put Sharon's hair, it wouldn't work at all. They didn't give her a potion in time OR may be teen lied 😮
☝🏾 I think Teen lied and he wanted Sharon taken out!
Jessica, a question about your interesting take on Jennifer Kale. Could she, as a Potions Witch, have been providing abortion inducing medicines, like a Pennyroyal Tea. This was often the case for real spinsters who were labeled as witches as keepers of herbology that would provide these kind of medicines to the young women of the town. Often when the powerful male figure, like a Reverend or say in this case, a doctor, be outraged at this, similar to how so many on the Religious Right get outraged over this subject. Jennifer would see herself providing a natural ingredient service, what she is still doing with her "Goop" style company, and then running afoul of a medical figure who condemns this practice - because we all know how some men love dictating how women use their bodies. It would also be a clue on why she is so focused on Agatha giving away her baby for the Darkhold. I don't know if Marvel/Disney is brave enough to wade into these waters but it could be a subtext.
I would love this so much but unfortunately I don’t think marvel would be brave enough to take a pro choice stance publicly
@@orishahar Sadly, I agree. That is several huge bridges too far for Disney. But I did see where Stevie Nicks (who is probably the rock star Lorna Wu is based off of) just released an Abortion Rights song/video called "The Lighthouse," which is a really gutsy move by an artist and music company. Maybe we are seeing the beginning of a sea change.
Ok...I think I recall in an interview that either Joe Locke or Kathryn Hahn, mentioned something about episode 5 being one to look out for....but don't quote me on that!
I’m pretty sure she briefly mentioned that in her I heart radio interview but it might just be wishful thinking lol. I wasn’t paying much attention
Thank god for Jessica being there to point out the racially coded reference to Jennifer’s hallucination.
Mrs 🖤's hallucination was a called back from episode 1 of WandaVision
Remember when Sharon said she would drink the blood of a virgin ? They actually did in the potion to get out of the first trial…..
It seems like the Witches' Road has a consciousness of its own. I wonder if it's going to turn out to be a lot more sinister than we think. They've joked about human sacrifices. What if Agatha is trying to sacrifice the other witches to the Road in exchange for getting her powers back? Magic has to have a cost and if they're bargaining with supernatural forced they have to be willing pay a price for the power.
What if teen is the regular Wiccan story but instead of having a peice of mephistos soul he has a peice of Nicolas’s but he is still billy Caplin and Wanda’s son but he doesn’t know that and what if the accident in west view killed both his parents and instead of wishing for power he wishes for his parents to come back to life but instead of bringing back Jeff and Rebecca Caplin it brings back Wanda and vision or if he does wish for power then maybe he does a spell to get his parents back but the spell brings back Wanda and vision instead of the parents he means
Kaplan*
That’s what I’m thinking will happen. “I just want my parents back” and then Wanda resurrects, Vision gains his color again, which kicks off house of m/visionquest simultaneously
I think he was walking the Witches down the whole time - he guided them through the trial. I think he's trying to get their powers to bring Wanda back and get revenge on Agatha
You guys are wild for critiquing a streaming show for not being structured like the most bog-standard network procedurals. Are we collectively forgetting how to extrapolate, infer and wonder? I don't want to watch a filmed Wikipedia entry.
I am thinking that Rio Vidal might be Blackheart, Mephisto's son. Taking in that when the diviner witch wrote the list for Agatha, instead of writing her name she just drew a black heart.
I Googled Mephisto, saw that he had two children, and immediately thought of Rio because of what she said to Agatha in the two-part opener.
Unless they’re combining two characters she’s not Black heart her funko pop leaked and spoiled who she is it’s a different character
She even told Agatha that she has a black heart! I don’t know why no one is picking up on that.
@@sarahcarry4037 And also the whole weird exchange between them where Agatha says 'you can't kill me, it's not allowed.' That is very specific wording, which would indicate there is like some sort of pact or contract with specific terms between them, and what do you usually make contracts with? Devils!
Excited for Jessica’s video after hearing her discuss Jennifer Kale’s background. Can’t wait to see what details she’s uncovered!!
So if Agatha already went down the witches road with a coven, what happened to the other coven? Why is nobody asking this?
I think Aubrey Plaza's character was part of her old coven
Maybe we’ll find out later on
Maybe Agatha absorbed their power and killed them all.
We know that Agatha killed her original coven, the one with her mom. I think based off the trailer, Agatha kills another coven in the same fashion by absorbing their powers. We don’t know which one she went down the witches’ road with…or if she went down it at all. Some people seem to believe she’s lying about it. I think Agatha went down the witches’ road with her original coven and that’s how she got the darkhold.
@@ericgreen6127yeah, i think her speech when the other witches ask her about "what the road was like" (or something among those lines, right before sharon/ms. hart goes missing) sounded very vague and fabricated to me. like a politician trying to convince people to vote for them. i don't know. maybe she did go down the road. or maybe she didn't.
Mysteries should be revealed in the last third of the run... especially in a "witch" series where 3 is so dominant. First third should explain and get empathy. The second third should marinate and get the emotional balance. The third portion should be revelation and ownership, the croon.... it's that scientific...lol
I like that idea honestly! Three phases. This episode showed light on the “mother” Agatha bland the truth behind her child. Next episodes should follow up with your theory hopefully that would be cool!
Eric hit it on the head when he said a pure viewer would like the suspense. Otherwise, where's the fun?
9 episodes, the last 3 will be the juice
@@fumferingyes I guess most people are impatient ?
I think Agatha intentions are pretty clear though. She needs her powers back to prevent the Salem 7 from killing her
Great episode.
Would love to see Maude back! It's been a while.
I think Sharon had to be "witchy enough" for the door to the road to have even open.
Didn't Teen say something about everyone has atleast a little magic in them
It felt like they were referencing birth when the coven is expelled from the house at the end. I know everyone says, Goonie, and maybe it is. But there was definitely some birth symbolism in there.
Witches reborn, Wanda resurrecting… super fun themes just in time for Halloween. Marvel has never been better for me
@@nailinthefashion same! I love the witchiness of it. I can't wait until the next episode.
I think yall messed up on the title lol 😅
WAS THAT MISTRESS DEATH?? I just need a “no way” or an “it’s possible”!!!!
wasnt hot enough
@@thestank3this is facts
Quite possible in the witches road song it says something about holding hands with Death.
It's possible.
That's what I was thinking 🤔
36:18 I’m good. I think you’re frustrated bc you want things outside of Agatha to be more important that they may or may not be. Agree with Jessica.
It’s silly cuz if they were more transparent he’d call it bland and too straightforward lol. It’s perfect imo. I’m hooked
I wonder if Sharon's talisman was her bag and losing it meant she would lose her life on that trial.
Or maybe Rio used it as a way to get into the road.... Like sensing it, pulling it into the earth then coming back out that way.
At 37:40 -- HARD AGREE! Jennifer Kale as a female Black witch making healing potions, would have been helping her community and other marginalized people access medical care, something the medical establishment of the time would have denied them, and her as a practitioner. I think this is what Agatha means by "I left you alone because you were doing important work." I actually didn't clock it the first time either, the pace of the episode was fast like that, but episode breakdowns helped me realize this. This show is GOOD, folks! Love it... I hope she gets her magic back!
Jennifer Kale and Johnny blaze are cousins in 616😊 so if anyone would know about Mephisto it would be her
You're the only person I've seen mention this.👍. Seems not many people know this. I hope they bring Ghost Rider into the MCU.
I love how Sharon said bury me in the kitchen, dies on the kitchen table.
I think Teen is a being controlled by Mephisto to get close to Agatha and kill all the witches. He just seems too used to the Road, and the fact that he was able to take Agatha slicing his hand open without so much as a wince weirds me out. How does one not react to that out of nowhere? He knows so much about the Road but doesn’t notice Sharon not putting her hair in the cauldron?
He read the room it wasn’t a surprise once Jen said they need the blood of the unpoisoned
What if…. Teen IS Mephisto and Billy and Nicolas are souls he holds so they pop out at times. And perhaps when Wanda destroyed all the darkholds it somehow blended them and he needs Agathas knowledge of the darkhold and the road loophole to get unstuck. He thinks she will want the book back but really she is going to ask for her son back and then steal all the witches powers once they have them back so she wins all around.
But how can he hold their souls when they were never real, just part of Wanda's elaborate spell?
@@IndomitableAdeTheir souls were real, their physical bodies were not.
@@Danny-uj3wh again, how? Where did their souls come from to construct bodies to house them? Is that part of the comics or some other property?
@@IndomitableAde In the comics Wanda created Tommy and Billy from pieces of Mephisto. His essence somehow got shattered (don't remember the exact story) and two of those pieces were taken by Wanda and turned into her sons. After that Mephisto took them back which meant the end of the boys original form. However the souls still existed and somehow (a lot of people speculate it was done by Billy when he became basically god called Demiurge in the future but I am not sure if there ever was a confirmation of what really happened) they got reincarnated into two random boys. The story is very complicated, was changed couple of times and a lot of the pieces of the puzzle are missing but this is basically what happened. Gotta remember that Scarlet Witch, Mephisto and even Wiccan have some insane abilities so very few thigs would be impossible.
Jennifer may have been aiding underground railroad survivors, which is why her work was important....
I love that backstory!
Why would Agatha care?
@@GoldenselfShe’s a bad-guy but she’s not a bad guy. C’mon now
She's easily bad enough to not care about slavery at a time when most people didn't care about slavery
😊😊@@Goldenselflllll
Hang on… you bust out a Debra Jo Rupp impression & move on like nothing happened? I need this once an episode please 😂 Love the show! (Breakroom & Agatha)
If the Salem 7 were after Agatha, then y did they grab after teen? Maybe they sense that they are somehow related? The witch says Agatha when she jumps through the window to grab him as well.
So far, in each of the three episodes, "Wanda" is mentioned. Will be curious if that trend continues.
Love that the OG members are on Breakroom more often. Especially Voss! But would love to see Maude, Coy, and Hector again!
Thought about Jennifer Kale-the dude who dunked her head into the sink looked to me, at that moment, like a 1950s/1970s Baptist preacher wearing baptismal robes and performing a baptism.
I’m not really certain where they would be willing to go after that, but at that moment I thought that she was bound because the pastor forced her into baptism and that’s what is binding her.
I don’t think Disney has the, let’s say, ovaries to go there, but that’s 100% what jumped out to me at that moment.
At 16: 39 I LOVE how you read the house as a metaphysical manifestation of Jen's body/mind as a potions witch! Very dream symbol, very metaphor, very awesome! ❤ (I mean dreams are more than just personal symbolic psychological exploration but they do involve that!)
So my observations about Lilia. In episode two, when she has two weird outbursts she screamed the first time and said “ Don’t touch me!” the second time. In episode 3, they were screaming when they were sliding down the water slide. And Sharon (Mrs.Heart), yelled “Don’t touch me!” When she was deviating from the path. Let’s see if my theory is right with the next episode if someone says “Try to save Agatha”
I think she is possessed by a divination spirit, maybe by her maestra that we saw in the hallucination?
36:47 why can’t yall ever let a mystery unfold? It’s 3 episodes in and you’re asking why you don’t have answers. Enjoy the ride sometimes.
Y'all missed the term "glamour". Glamour indicates that the sigil could be hiding an appearance as well. So Teen could be a 200ft demon for all we know.
As a little Catholic boy I love when Erik brings up his Catholic upbringing. "Transubstantiation baybeeeee "
Not specifically about episode 3, but it’ll be pertinent soon: I think an important question to ask is how does Rio end up on The Witches’ Road? She wasn’t there when The Road was conjured, and we saw the way in disappear. So can anyone just portal in? I would think not. Does that invalidate The Road? Is it not actually The Witches’ Road as we know it?Maybe Rio governs The Road - or IS the road. Maybe The Witches’ Road is actually just an elaborate trap to claim the souls of witches and Agatha escaped, and Rio/The Road has been after her ever since. I doubt it lol, but it would fun 🤪
And from the trailers and promos, we also see the Salem 7 (or who we assume to be them) inside one of the houses
I think she follows the Salem 7 in chasing Agatha, but it also helps to replace their missing Green Witch
From the trailers it does appear that Rio breaks into the road somehow, as do the Salem seven. I wonder if Agatha et al. bury Sharon on the road and from her grave, Rio emerges.
@@ericgreen6127 Yes, Ive seen. My question is more how is she allowed to get in. A grave being a doorway would certainly be amusing, but it still feels like breaking the rules as they’ve been established.
@@MTonTV 100% it does feel like cheating. I’ve seen rumors that Rio is actually an entity/being that has the ability to do this. Source Funko Pop leaks on Reddit. Sharon’s death and burial is how Rio gets in.
What do you mean you don't like Sharon's bag? IT CAME FROM TALBOTS!!!
Episode 3 review 🥰
The witches road is the villain of the season where at the end Agatha’s will safe teen instead of sacrificing him like her son
My wild outside theory based on the weird way she pronounced "sharon" in the second episode (sha-RON) is that she is actually Charon. Maybe because I was watching too much Kaos though.
Ooh!!! This is interesting
I don't want to cry out Mephisto but I'm wondering who the actor is who holds the credit behind Ali Ahn. The one that shows a pentagram superimposed on Westview. We know all the principal actors are accounted for. So, unless that credit is attributed to the actors who play 'Teen's parents (Paul Adelstein and Maria Dizzia) there has to be a guest star we don't know about yet.
Jennifer Kale mentioned "he took my power away." Once upon a time there was a guy whose sole mission was to depower magic users!!! Might we see Baron Mordo on this show, or maybe a reference? Could he be the one who took her power???
That would be kind of a cool reveal. Plus, now that Chiwetel Ejiofor is in the Sony Spider-Verse, if things are complicated now because of that, they could kill off Mordo on this show and close up that thread.
I'm not sure about that because in the show Jennifer said she's been bound for almost a century and as far as I'm aware Mordo has only tried to take others magic for a decade in universe, unless he time traveled or both her and Agatha are lying
@@yingyangkitty4091 that's a good point
Teen is her son! Traded son for the Darkhold, and when all copies were destroyed it nullified the "trade" and he shows up after its destroyed.
Honestly this came into my mind too from the comment about how Agatha wouldn't even recognize her son. Could just be misdirect though
I am kewl with the looming influence of all these ppl who have made deals with mephisto in the background. Mephisto could be what we wanted from Kang and what Thanos was. A looming threat with the impact that we see before the direct confrontation. We need iron heart now to tie in more mephisto deals and the impact on our mcu world. I hope the body is billy kaplan with Nick possessing him disoriented and then end will be separating the two and our billy being able to take the body. I am kinda hoping they blend them or that we can have Nick Scratch as well.
Eric fir the win for mention of digimon 54:17 😅❤ jess loses a bit of respect from me for hating on my favorite anime/cartoon show
Pokemons only just started to be somewhat good
Let’s be real. If any character from Bluey was a mcu witch it would be muffin. Bingo and bluey don’t have the unhinged brilliance of muffin.
Muffin is the best cartoon character in a loooong time.
If I hadn't been at work when this aired, my two questions would be:
1) Do we think that Agatha thinks that Teen is her missing child, possibly as part of a hex from Wanda? That's not saying that is who Teen really is but rather is it what Agatha thinks.
2) Piggybacking on something Eric said during the Easter Egg video, what do we think about this underground transportation system that Sharon mentions? Westview doesn't look like it could support a bus system, lest of all a subway system. Plus generally subways are built because land is precious and tightly packed with buildings (think NYC, DC, San Fran with sizeable subway systems) which is not a description of Westview, which has plenty of land. Also Westview doesn't seem like it's a suburb or even an exburb of a major city, so what's up with that?
Oh, that was DEFINITELY put in for a reason. There’s no way a town like that had a preexisting subway system. It was only mentioned as a setup for a payoff down the road.
The pentagram on the end credit map could be the "subway system"
I think Agatha tradedd her som for the darkhold
Well, Eric knows how to punk Brandon now. Just leave his baby at his house. Surprise babysitting! 😂
It feels like an Agatha Christie mystery, where we don't know anyone's motives or intentions or backstory until the end (when the murderer is revealed).
what if agatha knows whats happening or the trial for the potions witch on the road because she actually walked the road before and experienced it , hence she threw away the wine because she know it was poison , thats why when kale was having the issues remebering all the components of the antidote she was able to tell kale that she( kale) knows what is missing. Maybe she connot tell her because this was the potions witch's trial . All in all that could possibly be the way that she completed the road before . Am i right to thnk that Agatha is NOT a potions witch? .Possibly, hear me out....... one witch is left standing at the end and that witch was( when she walked the road with the coven before and the coven she is walking with now) is Agatha. She knows whats happening. I predict only Teen and Agatha is left at the end.
More nods to famous witch movies! This time the housewives aesthetic seemed to be pointing at Practical Magic but thinking we're looking at the older movie The Witches Of Eastwick. Which makes when teen says "very middle-aged second chance at love and I am here for it sort of ominous. All the witches are looking for second chances but the male character in that movie was Jack Nicholson as the Devil. Teen's gay but there are many types of love, including maternal. It's also a movie where the neighbour character doesn't fare very well.
Going off a movies theme then Alice's trial may be based on The Craft and Lilia's air trial may be a little cross-promotion with Wicked. Yes! A singing trial! More singing!
Also, what might be binding some of the witches is self-doubt, especially the Jennifer Kale. Also, it would be interesting if the Teen placed the spell upon himself in order to confuse the other witches.
Did Agatha trade her kid for the Darkhold? Jennifer says everyone knows. That sounds like gossip. Rio asked if Agatha remembered why she (Agatha) hated Rio and she doesn't. What if Rio traded Agathas baby for the book. Agatha was horrified the book was in the crib. What if she took the Darkhold from Rio (there is room above Agathas' name on the library card) in revenge, and was then corrupted?
Lilia's first premonition from the kitchen happened in this episode. Sharon yells, "Get off me," when she walks off alone just before losing her bag. I think this is what Lilia was referring to.
Agatha is nomething
Next Maude's Monday Minute when?
Is it possible Sharon died on the Road because she was not meant to be on that team? The road killing her because she isn't worthy. If it just showed her a heart(why she went for Mrs Hart), but it was actually Aubrey's character, it meant. I feel like at some point they'll be punished for her not being there.
🎉I'm rewatching the episodes.. realizing when she was in the library that was probably Dottie' book club/township (from WV) lmao ..it was probably her umteenth time doing it thats why they all just run with it now
There are so many witch Easter eggs I'm shocked they haven't had one for Patti LuPone as Joan Clayton in Penny Dreadful.
What if the soul Wanda used to create Billy in the first place was Nicolas Scratch? And that could be why his soul was nearby waiting to latch onto a suitable host.
To go more morbid, what if the original Billy Kaplan DID die, and either Billy/Nic's soul was needed to bring him back, or replaced the kid, getting his body and memories.
Maybe Tommy's soul was formerly Pietro's or something. Like when Wanda made herself pregnant, she unconsciously summoned Pietro's soul, and Nicolas' jumped into the opening as well, which is why she had surprise twins.
@38:00 To continue the midwife/water theme and the full moon on the door: the full moon in witchcraft is associated with the fullness of a pregnant belly, water is the womb, the waters of creation. The ocean too is associated with birth in witchcraft as well as , water literally "breaking" into the house and forcing them into coming out a water slide.
So the road actually grew Jennifer’s hair for this test!? Cuz her head is shaved in reality and the potion required a hair from each of them. 🤷🏻♂️ just sayin. #wasitawig? Lol
I have a Agatha All Along Theory that I’m 99.9% sure is correct! In the third episode of the show they reference Agatha’s child a lot, obviously the child is supposed to be Teen who is 100% Billy Kaplan, or maybe in this universe his last name is Billy Harkness 😏, I believe that Agatha took her child with her on the witches road with a makeshift coven and after each trial she loses each memeber of the coven until she gets to the end and dies herself. But before death can grasp her soul she makes a trade with death and trades her child (Teen/Billy) for her own revival. Death takes her deal and she completes the witches road and gets her gift granted to her, that gift being Possession Of The Darkhold. After years Agatha’s Childs soul gets reincarnated and put into the teen body of Billy with the “dead” spirit of the Scarlet Witch which grants him magical abilities, which would replace the spirit of Mephisto like in the comics except using Wanda’s “death” as the MCU Stand in. (I firmly believe that Wanda isn’t dead. I believe that she was snatched away at the last second by Mephisto and is trapped in the underworld and she is there waiting for someone (Billy) to come rescue her.) (also not trying to spam just didn’t realize you were gonna release a new video today😂)
Lets not forget, in a promo for Agatha All Along, Rio is seen and says "The bodies are piling up" while standing on the witches road. We've not seen this yet, and I'd say its an indicator of 2 things.
1. Sadly Sharon Davies is most likely for sure dead
2. We're gonna lose at least 1 more for it to be a plural of "bodies".
PS: It was possibly just rumor, but I also thought there was talk ot Nico Minoru showing up as a character in this show, was that not confirmed by a legit scooper?
Also, the change in screen ratio could mean seeing reality thru the eyes of someone. Bc in Wandavision whenever we were in the hex the screen ration changed bc we were seeing things thru Wanda’s warped perception. What if this is a way the show is telling us not everything we see is “real” or accurate?? I know its obvious bc it only changes inside the trial but what if it means something more? Also, what if Blackheart and Agatha are sisters?? Maybe after Agatha killed their mother she or another Coven put a spell or a protection so Agatha couldn’t do the same to her In Agnes world, Agatha sees her as a more advanced witch bc she sees her as a higher up cop. This is confirmed when she says that “she’s unstoppable”.
Im just curious, but did you guys get a THC gummy sponsor? And maybe did you try those Gummies before going live? lol Just was curious, cuz, like... Whats the brand?
@wwaxwork
By not putting Sharon's hair in the potion they were all saved. If they had put her hair in, she was unconscious, she couldn't have done the step where they had to align their intentions so then the potion wouldn't have worked for anyone. Not saying it was intentional but more a lucky mistake.
I don’t think Agatha actual completed the Road and didn’t get the “prize”. Something happened and she cheated and I feel that’s how she got connected to Mephisto and somehow went on the path to get the Darkhold. I think she made a deal that didn’t give her ultimate power and the Darkhold was her fail safe to get out.
She wasn’t a villain in the comics and I feel like her portrayal now is the same. She may have developed this reputation due to some bad decisions and doesn’t mind taking what comes with it as long as she can achieve her goal, even if everyone thinks she is evil.
I have this theory that agatha will find out teen is “the reincarnated son of a powerful witch” making her (and us) believe he is her son but then at the end it will be revealed he is Wanda’s making Agatha grieve all over again and hate Wanda even more. (Villain backstory part 2 kinda thing)
Saw in the preview for ep4 that somehow on of the Salem Seven have chased them onto the road. We saw one turn into the whole group before so maybe that will happen here. As for how they got on the road, when one of them broke into the house before they scratched teen, which might be enough. A Nicholas Scratch, even.
It’s not Agatha. It’s Wanda. It’s been Wanda all along. She put Agatha is a trapped spell, and is on a quest to get full power and find both sons. Teen is Agatha’s son and will eventually use him as bait.
Mephisto made Billy & Tommy out of a piece of his soul in the comics right? What if when Agatha traded Nicholas Scratch’s soul for the Darkhold, Mephisto then traded it with Wanda when she created her children in the Hex.
Wiccan would be Wanda’s child but the remnants of Agatha’s child’s soul 😳
Omg SPOILERS IF YOU CARE
Funko Pop reviled that Teen is Wiccan and we saw his Wiccan outfit.
Could Sharon really have been part of the original Salem 7? Is she really dead? She was playing too dumb of a character and acting like she didn't know anything. Great way to throw the viewer off.
Just a theory: Mephisto wants to bring back the Darkhold so he let Billy guide the witches to walk the road. In the end maybe they did bring back the Darkhold, Billy turned evil under the influence (or it’s been Mephisto all along😂) and start attacking the coven, magic blast Agatha and so she gets her purple back
You're all so quippy! I love it! These are all good theories. I think Eric is right about Agatha's treachery being the big bad. No matter what, it was Mephisto all along.
The house was so beautiful like Jessica’s skin care store, everyone that walked into that beach house was dressed like her customers so I knew right away it would be a trial for Jennifer with her portion making, I loved how her skin care line randomly appeared in the house. It’s cool to see a potion witch. The next one looks like the 70’s episode with the Asian girl I’m sure it will be her trial and the coven will have to help her with her trial, than the next trial will be the card reading witch, than we will see Agatha’s trial which I have a feeling will be amazing. As far as Billy Wiccan if he’s somehow related to Wanda I wonder why he loves Agatha so much she tried to kill Wanda. It’s sad they left Tommy out but looking forward to more episodes they say there 38 min long but there really like 20 minutes with the credits which is such a shame i wish each episode was at least 40 minutes long there is so much to explore- 9 episodes is not enough if there 20 min each. I have a feeling we will see Sharon at the end it’s a little unbelievable they’d kill her off so fast.
One of the theories I have is that Agatha and Rio were together and bound themselves (which is why they can't kill each other) and Nick was their son, they walked the road without permission from the coven and the "blessing" was given in a three wishes kind of way where they were also cursed, Agatha could never gain power like other witches do, she had to steal it which makes her dangerous to be a part of the coven and Rio's wish was to be a master over death, and by doing so it made her lady death. Nick was sacrificed unknowingly for power by them both. and it was Rio who pushed for that.
Wouldn’t Agatha be considered a blood witch too? Why would they still need Laurna (sp?) nothing against the character just confused me.
I’m really enjoying it and there’s a quality to it that I haven’t felt from other marvel items recently. The fact that I don’t know much yet feels novel and you can tell the people making it at all levels are enjoying it.
I like the mystery. I'm also not trying to solve the show's mystery for the sake of making UA-cam videos. I'm glad that the writers/actors strike didn't mess up this schedule, because it fits the Halloween season.
I think during the accident “teen” died. The spirit of Billy took him over. The law of conservation of energy states that energy can't be created or destroyed, but can only be transformed or transferred between forms.
When want shut the hex down, they disappear. I don’t think they are gone. #BillyandTommyFOREVER!
Honestly, i just believe that mephisto took nicholas from agatha. So she went crazy, kinda like wanda did, to get her kid back in which she ran into the dark hold. Later ran into the scarlet witch (wandavision) figured she could take her power and actually beat mephisto and get nicholas back. I think overall marvel kinda wants to reel her back in and make her a good person because agatha has such a connections to the avengers, the fantastic 4, and wanda in the comics. So i think she kinda needs to be a good person in order to have a role in the avengers movies coming up. Honestly, the more I think about it. I also think the teen is for sure wandas son, but I think he is an agent of mephisto. The fact that he doesn't react to the name mephisto. Like he doesn't even question who that is. I think that's pretty weird for someone who is just learning about witchcraft and kinda this whole new world to it
OK, I like the theory that Nicholas scratch is possessing him sometimes what if the Demi urge is a curse cause from trading a baby for the darkhold and that will be the demiurge in the future is a curse and Nicholas scratch
My prediction: Rio is Death, and Sharon meets her, tells her about the Road, and they show up together in the next episode. Rio does call it a “party” in the trailer- which is what Agatha told Sharon to convince her to come in the first place
How accurate is IMDB while a show is running? Debra Jo Rupp is listed as showing up in the first three episodes while the rest of the coven members are listed as being in 8 episodes. I'm confused.
Beautiful botox? to each their own? Eric praising literally anything 🤣
I think sharon is forced to come back for one simple reason:
Its written in the ballad.
"If one be gone, we carry on
Spirit as our guide."
I thrink every coven that walks the road must have at least one death and that person becomes a part of the road to act as a guide for the coven.
The Salem Seven are a fully powered Coven. Yet know thinks they can sing (that sarcasm for "go to the witches road. Cold explain how Rio gets there *read the pinned post, we know the other way)