I love how they took some of this speech and put it into the movie bomb city I think was called.great movie. I didn't know it was Marilyn mansons speech at first
I just recently started listening to Marilyn Manson. Didn't really know much about him. He makes more sense than anyone I've heard since the Vegas shooting.
He's 100% accurate with the school situation. its all bs and jocks get away with everything. everyday i'd stand up for the nerdy kids getting picked on by sporty-preppy douchebags in gymclass and the gym teacher was a coach and he didnt want his football players to miss out on practice so he just said" dont do it again" and this was every-fucking-day.
I could sit and listen to him talk all day long. I read his book and I just want to know more. I want to know what he thinks about, well, everything. He just seems to have everything all worked out. Screw the people who can't look past his image and actually listen to what he has to say.
Such a genius..and so true about the "God Band-Aid" (disturbing that it's SO relevant today, especially with regard to the Internet and Social Media) R.I.P. Brian Deneke.
Great speach and so true. This is actually one of the things I HATE about mankind... their sheep-like mentality, their need to fit in and be cool. Its this type of need for acceptance that leads to a lot of bullying and why others join in at laughing at someone. Its because they wanna fit in and be cool. Humans are also competitive by nature, probably the biggest cause of wars. Football etc. is very symbolic of that nature and how people treat it is very primitive. It needs to change.
@adema013 Exactly. When I was in middle school, junior high, and high school I was the loner and the outcast. Not really emo or anything, but I was a loner. Know who picked on me and bullied me the most? The popular kids who were the jocks, got all the votes when it came to best looking, best smile, prom king, and etc. They made fun of my acne, my weight, called me a homosexual, and the list goes on. So as you said, the jocks aka the popular kids were and are the problem in schools.
Oh, my god, my heart skipped a beat when he mentioned Brian Deneke. I don't agree with all his beliefs ("kids need an antichrist!") but there's no denying that this man is fucking brilliant and knows what's going on. In the Deneke vein, I wonder what Manson would have to say about Sophie Lancaster?
leshem041 I had to think about it a little bit too, because I didn't get it right off the bat. I think he meant we're an amalgam, or combination, of various things we absorb. And since we're looking at each other in television sets (or any medium that allows us to absorb information) and feeding off of each other, it's hard to tell what is true and what isn't. Is anything that you say really yours, or what you saw on TV and hence accept to be true? Then you go off and spread this now adulterated way of looking at the world to others and it keeps get mutated on every iteration--and the cycle continues; hence "the degeneration" that Manson was talking about. Where does the real you reside in that carnival of self-perpetuating mirrors? I think that's what he meant. I could be wrong...
He meant that we are just pseudo-individuals who are copies of the creation of the media. Media created certain categories and spread them through TV. Everyone watching TV became a copy, became a part of this trap. Everyone became fake and similar. It's like capitalism makes you think that you have a right to choose over the things like the clothes you wear, but indeed you are not free to choose at all. How? There are only limited choices you could make over clothes. The choices they chose. The clothes you choose are the ones they created again. Again you are the part of the system and all the media and TV shit is linked to that. It's really something deep what he means here. He means we became nothing more than pseudo-individuals who became copy like creatures so it doesn't matter if you are on TV or watching TV you are a part of that copies.
It seems like he summed up everything in a few minutes... He talks about America, but what he says is true as well of many countries, which is even more striking when he talks about kids and the "different" ones (who hasn't seen those sorts of things ?)... What strikes me is that I already agreed with his point of view before watching this and yet this is a true realization. Now I guess I'll be thinking about it all.
At 3:00 it would have been good if he had said it like this "I don't think seeing violence is the problem, I think seeing violence as a solution to a problem 'that doesn't even exist' is the problem. I fucking love manson. the smartest man I've ever known.
willraz watch Bomb City. Yes it is a true story. The punk was Brian Deneke and the boy that ran him over was Dustin Camp. It happened 12-12-1997 in Amarillo, TX You can also google it. It was in the Western Plaza Mall parking lot.
@itzahazylife actually, it wasn't vague. he's just talking about reality. what he's talking about is how things are going. well, you can't disagree. every letter spelled the truth.
@willraz Hi, yes that story is true. I remember becuase it happened in TX, wich it's were I live. His name was Brian Deneke, you can google his name and find the whole story.
i love his reference to the god bandaid. and his question is adult entertainment killing our children or is killing children entertaining adults? he makes alot of sense. mm is amazing!!!
Gays, Mexicans, Musicians. We are all just cast out for being different. But when it comes to simple-minded things like god and football, society makes it so that if your not with them your against them. Violence is on us musicians, not the media, not sports, nothing. It's terrible what society does to people, and I hope one day to make a statement as a musician as big as Marilyn Manson because he is a true icon. I too wish to be different, and if it goes against society the so be it.
awesome interview! i grew up christian, discovered Metal and been happy ever since. I believe though that if we think hypothetically if jesus was real and watched this interview i honestly think he'd probably agree with everything manson just said....just my opinion
Dustin Camp apparently did spend some time in prison , i prosume this is the kid he is talking about? the murder of brian deneke?iff not who is he talking about? \m/
Manson sees the world the way the majority of the world DOES but doesn't have the balls to say anything about. violence isn't the issue in America, a sucky government, and injustice is! Music is everything. I'm a Christian, but that doesnt even matter, this man is intelligent, people need to have their own opinions.
@tinny1113 So, why exactly does it make him not eligible for president if he decides to look different from all the others? did you even listen to what he was saying in this speech? If people had real (intellectual) honesty, he would have been elected president a long time ago.
I think George Carlin would agree on the "Killing young people is entertaining adults", also, the copy of a copy seems to be taken from Fightclub or viceversa
+leshem041 He means society are the ones who create the violent images on TV, yet then they complain about whats on it. Basically this is the society we have created, these are the things we have allowed. If there is something in society we wanna blame, we have to look at ourselves. The things people hate are the things they create.
I love how they took some of this speech and put it into the movie bomb city I think was called.great movie. I didn't know it was Marilyn mansons speech at first
This is probably the most important speech that everyone on America should see. But no one will ever listen because he is Marilyn Manson.
Agree, do worry if more of america had heard his opinions he might have ended up like Lennon.
HollywoodGirl #1 I sent it to all of my family members so 🤷♂️
I showed this speech to my students at University when we had a lecture on media ethics and rhetorics - I'm a professor in Philosophy in the UK.
I always go back to this and it continues to stay relevant no matter how long ago it was and nothing has changed...
True mm will always say the truth
I just recently started listening to Marilyn Manson. Didn't really know much about him. He makes more sense than anyone I've heard since the Vegas shooting.
I love you Marilyn lead me the way to life🖤🖤
It's so sad that Manson is a scapegoat when people should really be listening to what he has to say
He's 100% accurate with the school situation. its all bs and jocks get away with everything. everyday i'd stand up for the nerdy kids getting picked on by sporty-preppy douchebags in gymclass and the gym teacher was a coach and he didnt want his football players to miss out on practice so he just said" dont do it again" and this was every-fucking-day.
I could sit and listen to him talk all day long. I read his book and I just want to know more. I want to know what he thinks about, well, everything. He just seems to have everything all worked out. Screw the people who can't look past his image and actually listen to what he has to say.
I was two when this happened and was in Amarillo. I was raised there.
This is an amazing speech!
jules bent not really. I could only agree with 30% of what his saying and 70% is bullshit
we need another marylin manson today honestly
Pastel Rat ask trent Reznor to make one
that was the most amazing thing I have EVER watched.
Manson sees the world the way the majority of America doesn't want to. Very intelligent man.
This is a beautiful speech! He is completely correct! He is very intelligent.
brian deneke
Brian Deneke
Anarchy.
I could listen to him talk for days.
Simply put,we fear what we dont understand.
Such a genius..and so true about the "God Band-Aid" (disturbing that it's SO relevant today, especially with regard to the Internet and Social Media)
R.I.P. Brian Deneke.
All exceptionally relevant points and examples.
a very under-appreciated individual.
Complete and utter adoration for him. He is the most important artist out there
We need more speeches like this .
i think that this is so true.. he hit the nail on the head in this one!
One the many reason why I love him
Great speach and so true. This is actually one of the things I HATE about mankind... their sheep-like mentality, their need to fit in and be cool. Its this type of need for acceptance that leads to a lot of bullying and why others join in at laughing at someone. Its because they wanna fit in and be cool. Humans are also competitive by nature, probably the biggest cause of wars. Football etc. is very symbolic of that nature and how people treat it is very primitive. It needs to change.
never have a seen a pt2 of a video have more views than the first. That says quite a lot about Marilyn Manson
I know right, he is extremely smart, and has so much to say, I will always take time to listen.
i could listen to this man for hours.
I like this. It really makes you think a lot more deeply on things.
This man is the Chomsky of the rock area. So deep. That has to been told.
I agree with alot of whats being said here. Accept people for who they are , not what they look like.
"VIOLENCE IS A SOLUTION", amazing marilyn!, thats true in our society
@adema013
Exactly. When I was in middle school, junior high, and high school I was the loner and the outcast. Not really emo or anything, but I was a loner. Know who picked on me and bullied me the most? The popular kids who were the jocks, got all the votes when it came to best looking, best smile, prom king, and etc. They made fun of my acne, my weight, called me a homosexual, and the list goes on.
So as you said, the jocks aka the popular kids were and are the problem in schools.
Oh, my god, my heart skipped a beat when he mentioned Brian Deneke. I don't agree with all his beliefs ("kids need an antichrist!") but there's no denying that this man is fucking brilliant and knows what's going on. In the Deneke vein, I wonder what Manson would have to say about Sophie Lancaster?
What did he mean on 5:40, "we are the tv, were a copy starring at a copy"?
leshem041 I had to think about it a little bit too, because I didn't get it right off the bat.
I think he meant we're an amalgam, or combination, of various things we absorb. And since we're looking at each other in television sets (or any medium that allows us to absorb information) and feeding off of each other, it's hard to tell what is true and what isn't. Is anything that you say really yours, or what you saw on TV and hence accept to be true? Then you go off and spread this now adulterated way of looking at the world to others and it keeps get mutated on every iteration--and the cycle continues; hence "the degeneration" that Manson was talking about.
Where does the real you reside in that carnival of self-perpetuating mirrors?
I think that's what he meant. I could be wrong...
+leshem041 something deep... lol
He meant that we are just pseudo-individuals who are copies of the creation of the media. Media created certain categories and spread them through TV. Everyone watching TV became a copy, became a part of this trap. Everyone became fake and similar. It's like capitalism makes you think that you have a right to choose over the things like the clothes you wear, but indeed you are not free to choose at all. How? There are only limited choices you could make over clothes. The choices they chose. The clothes you choose are the ones they created again. Again you are the part of the system and all the media and TV shit is linked to that. It's really something deep what he means here. He means we became nothing more than pseudo-individuals who became copy like creatures so it doesn't matter if you are on TV or watching TV you are a part of that copies.
" a copy of a copy of a copy " - Manson was ahead of trent reznor !
It seems like he summed up everything in a few minutes... He talks about America, but what he says is true as well of many countries, which is even more striking when he talks about kids and the "different" ones (who hasn't seen those sorts of things ?)... What strikes me is that I already agreed with his point of view before watching this and yet this is a true realization. Now I guess I'll be thinking about it all.
I fucking love this guy! Manson for president!!!!!!!
i thought of the exact same quote on the first video
That was a great speech !
At 3:00 it would have been good if he had said it like this "I don't think seeing violence is the problem, I think seeing violence as a solution to a problem 'that doesn't even exist' is the problem. I fucking love manson. the smartest man I've ever known.
Impeccable come back.
Bomb City....😤
wow can we download this somewhere?.....
"Sports Is a war without weapons".
George Orwell.
Is that story of the jock killing the "punk" kid true? If so does anyone know any more on it?
willraz watch Bomb City. Yes it is a true story. The punk was Brian Deneke and the boy that ran him over was Dustin Camp. It happened 12-12-1997 in Amarillo, TX You can also google it. It was in the Western Plaza Mall parking lot.
amazing
🙏❤
This man had the mind if someone in 2018 back in the 80s and 90s.
@itzahazylife actually, it wasn't vague. he's just talking about reality. what he's talking about is how things are going. well, you can't disagree. every letter spelled the truth.
Word.
@willraz Hi, yes that story is true. I remember becuase it happened in TX, wich it's were I live. His name was Brian Deneke, you can google his name and find the whole story.
where and when did this speech take place? what kind of meeting was that?
what year was this?
fucking put this guy in the white house
Fucking love this man!
Oi Brian! R.I.P!
i love his reference to the god bandaid. and his question is adult entertainment killing our children or is killing children entertaining adults? he makes alot of sense. mm is amazing!!!
Gays, Mexicans, Musicians. We are all just cast out for being different. But when it comes to simple-minded things like god and football, society makes it so that if your not with them your against them. Violence is on us musicians, not the media, not sports, nothing. It's terrible what society does to people, and I hope one day to make a statement as a musician as big as Marilyn Manson because he is a true icon. I too wish to be different, and if it goes against society the so be it.
The only thing I don’t justify in his speech is trying to justify why Marylyn Manson was in prison aside from that 100% agreed
@azrail13 I wrote that on the board at school!
@booshmastertrepkos New York its like the first thing he said(:
wow.
so true
@pinkthunderwonder hell yes.
...look up Sophie Lancaster
awesome interview! i grew up christian, discovered Metal and been happy ever since. I believe though that if we think hypothetically if jesus was real and watched this interview i honestly think he'd probably agree with everything manson just said....just my opinion
@Garrashi07 im a jock, and im goth. why should I die?
Okay... I think... If and when I do have a kid (If our world makes it that long) I will home school it to the values of Marilyn Manson.....
word up
Oh and you didn't before because he wore make up? I'm just curious, correct me if I'm wrong.
This was a short film we did inspired by the death of Brian Deneke
He is a smart and talented guy
wat he's saying about how sports affect these crimes is so true
0:58
Does anyone have any literature on the kid at ihop? I wanna see that story
his name is Brian deneke my mom knew him
+JJ Scott according to Wikipedia the Jock got probation and eventually served time in prison until he got paroled again in 2001
Yeah that's the story
Brian treated everyone with complete respect but Dustin the jock didn't
+JJ Scott yeah I just mentioned it because in the video it says he was found not guilty
🤘
100% all true he is a very intellegent man id only b lucky 2 have his brain.
fuckin beautiful
Dustin Camp apparently did spend some time in prison , i prosume this is the kid he is talking about? the murder of brian deneke?iff not who is he talking about? \m/
@xxdiogenescynicxx jocks can be real mean.
Very much true, but I still stand by what I said.
isn't brand new... so right.
Manson sees the world the way the majority of the world DOES but doesn't have the balls to say anything about. violence isn't the issue in America, a sucky government, and injustice is! Music is everything. I'm a Christian, but that doesnt even matter, this man is intelligent, people need to have their own opinions.
Camp spent time in prison for probation violations (underage drinking, if I remember right), not for the crime itself.
@tinny1113 So, why exactly does it make him not eligible for president if he decides to look different from all the others? did you even listen to what he was saying in this speech? If people had real (intellectual) honesty, he would have been elected president a long time ago.
@nerdyharry ...so, yeah, probably always hungover
The people that are supposedly weird and different make the biggest differences and make the best points. How messed up is this place?
Intelligent.
@mythical13 And that's the reason why he hasn't and never could be. The general public would never find it acceptable.
np man
I think George Carlin would agree on the "Killing young people is entertaining adults", also, the copy of a copy seems to be taken from Fightclub or viceversa
manson for presedent!!!
HELLO MISS SAKELLARI
@xxdiogenescynicxx ur a diamond in the rough than.
True words
Amen @thedarkcrow99 c; so im not alone....
Intelligent man
+leshem041 He means society are the ones who create the violent images on TV, yet then they complain about whats on it. Basically this is the society we have created, these are the things we have allowed. If there is something in society we wanna blame, we have to look at ourselves. The things people hate are the things they create.
@willraz Yes, it is a true story. Look up the Murder of Brian Deneke.
He's right
Violence is the worst