Wapping and Limehouse Pubs: Historic pubs along the riverside in East London
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- Опубліковано 28 лип 2024
- Heading further into the East End in today’s video to explore the historic pubs along the Thames in Wapping and Limehouse. As always looking at their exteriors, interiors and history.
Links etc:
Town of Ramsgate
townoframsgate.pub/
whatpub.com/pubs/ELC/14256/to...
pubheritage.camra.org.uk/pubs...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town_of...
londonwiki.co.uk/LondonPubs/W...
historicengland.org.uk/listin...
Prospect of Whitby
www.greeneking.co.uk/pubs/gre...
whatpub.com/pubs/ELC/14260/pr...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prospec...
londonwiki.co.uk/LondonPubs/S...
historicengland.org.uk/listin...
Turner’s Old Star
whatpub.com/pubs/ELC/14257/tu...
londonwiki.co.uk/LondonPubs/S...
Queen’s Head
whatpub.com/pubs/ELC/14059/qu...
londonwiki.co.uk/LondonPubs/R...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen%2...
historicengland.org.uk/listin...
Grapes
www.thegrapes.co.uk/
whatpub.com/pubs/ELC/14069/gr...
pubheritage.camra.org.uk/pubs...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gra...
londonwiki.co.uk/LondonPubs/L...
historicengland.org.uk/listin...
I've now unlisted the earlier (more slapdash!) video I did on Wapping/Rotherhithe but in case anyone still wants to see it, it's here: • Wapping / Rotherhithe ...
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:10 Town of Ramsgate
5:31 Prospect of Whitby
10:57 Turner’s Old Star
14:56 Queen’s Head
18:00 Grapes
22:40 Outro
It's funny that there's a Staff wanted sign on the window of Ian Mclennan's pub.
😂 I wish I had spotted that at the time!
@@TweedyPubs Hello. This is just a quick note to let you know of my admiration for your important work. In the parlance of past contributors. And with reference towards local radio presenters, (or Steve Wright fans). I want to say; “Hi Tweedy! Long time listener. First time caller.“ I am a man that has lived 49 summers so far. And most of my major years have been engrossed in seeking out good fare and surroundings. Watching your posts has really made my heart sing. You “GET” the whole experience and passion for pub lore. Your understanding of the importance of detail, married with an almost, nonchalant and casual delivery, is very enticing. I think you’re brilliant.
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I notice that this humble channel is growing at an increasing clip…congratulations, @TweedyPubs, well deserved!
Thank you! The pubs are the star of the show of course!
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I’ve been to all of these pubs and I’ve got to say The Grapes was by far my favourite. Food was delicious, beer selection was great and atmosphere was great. All round great pub!
This channel provides a brilliant intersection of history, pub architecture and design, and beer.
Thanks Alan! The beer side of things often ends up being a bit of a foot note because there's so much to say about the other stuff - but I do always try and give it at least a brief mention.
Can I first say, that has to be one of the best thumbnails I’ve seen. A very evocative image.
And somehow, despite all the redevelopment, there’s still something of the Victorian port about this area - at least around these featured pubs.
Incredible depths of research, once again. Good to get that Whitby link. Some lovely videography too. A bit of bokeh with the pint and the Gormley statue. Very nice.
Thank you Mr WC21! Yes I was pleased with the thumbnail, although I suspect "experts" in such matters would say my face should have been bigger (I mean really, who wants that?!) and there were probably a whole host of other things wrong with it...
I really like this part of London, and I similarly get a great sense of earlier times wandering these streets, and particularly all those old stairs down to the river. It's interesting that even in Dickens' day it seems to have had a nostalgic air of times past - he apparently spent quite a lot time lurking about in the area finding inspiration for Our Mutual Friend.
Yes I was pleased with that shot of the beer and the Gormley statue! I tend to mostly stick to the GoPro for exterior shots, and the phone for interior shots, but of course the GoPro is fixed focus, so sometimes it's nice to use my phone instead outdoors.
Those boozers on the Riverside corner looked FANTASTIC, i just love pubs like that.🇬🇧
Fascinating! I love your deep delve into the history. I've subscribed to your channel now, as your comment on the wonderful John Rogers latest upload led me here!
I had a day out in wapping last year and spent it exploring and drinking in it's Pub's! It was surly the finest day of the year for me!
It really is a great area for pubs - especially on a sunny day - in fact it was raining on and off for quite a lot of the day I visited but I still enjoyed it regardless.
Tweedy I’m doing these pubs this week. The Isle of Dogs has a few gems if your ever thinking of covering further east. Excellent video tweedy thanks mate and it’s inspired me to revisit the prospect and the captain kidd along that lovely stretch of river 😎👍👍
Absolutely fascinating. Thank you.
The Prospect of Whitby. Definitely one of my favorite pubs. I pretend i'm Captain Jack Sparrow every time... Savvy 🍺🍻🤣😂 Happy Good Friday John!
Thanks Nils! Yes I have a soft spot for anywhere with a bit of a pirate atmosphere too.
@@TweedyPubs 😃
Great video tweedy, I have always enjoyed the pubs down that side, surprised you didn't take in the captain kidd.
Rotherhithe would be your next choice, but I would love a maida Vale video
Cheers mate all the best
Really enjoy the channel and what you produce. Many thanks
Another excellent video thank you
My absolute favorite “pub crawl:” Start at Town of Ramsgate (great steak & ale pie w/chips), next The Captain Kid with a final stumble into the Prospect of Whitby. Love The Grapes, but have yet to darken the doors of The Queens Head or The Old Star. On my list! Great vid…thanks as always and cheers!!!
Thanks Ed! Yes it is a great area - in the past if doing a crawl I'd usually combine it with a couple of the pubs over the river in Rotherhithe (the Angel and the Mayflower) but I remember for some period of time the line between Wapping and Rotherhithe was closed and there was no easy way to cross the river around there.
Two enthusiastic thumbs-up for The Mayflower Pub…excellent fish and chips. Their upstairs dining hall is well worth an evening of your time!@@TweedyPubs
Just fabulous stuff 😎👍👍👍
Thank you!
I bought a book in a charity shop yesterday that you might enjoy - The Prospect of Whitby at Wapping: The story of London’s oldest riverside inn by Elwyn Hughes published in 1950.
Another excellent video, Informative and very interesting...
Thank you!
I drank the Grips as a young photographers assistant back in the early 80's and it haven't changed a bit, loved it then and love it now. We also had a very enjoyable time in the Town of Ramsgate when we were snowed in and the days shoot was cancelled the studio was at Metropolitan Wharf. The hole area looked very different then and few people would go to the area. One pub you mist was called the One that Was Mist I think and is still there. Named because it stood completely alone either by war time bombing or demolition in the 50's.
Thanks Mr Tweed for bringing back fond memory's of time well spent there.
Thanks Russell! Very glad to hear this brought back some good memories. The Town of Ramsgate definitely not a bad pub to be snowed in at!
Great video, the town of Ramsgate was my regular haunt for a mid week pint after sport. I know the area has had a touch up but for me still oozes maritime history, smugglers, sailors, strumpets and all that.
I completely agree - I love the atmosphere in the area, especially when you can hear the waves lapping at the back of one of these pubs and smell the sea!
I first went to the Prospect of Whitby about 1969, and was surprised to see a beer vending machine in the pub, opposite the bar. Never seen one anywhere since, and it would be completely illegal now.
Wow - of all the places where you might expect that kind of technological innovation I wouldn't have guessed it would be there! I think Wetherspoons experimented with vending machines for a while, but yes the legalities of them are probably a bit challenging. The only time I've ever used a beer vending machine is in Japan!
Whitby in North Yorkshire was a major port for coal traffic to London from the north-east coalfields. Captain James Cook learned his skills from working in this trade in his teens.
Tweedy laser focused like a bird dog once again to start the Easter weekend off on a proper trajectory. I spied a Pie and a Pint sign behind the bar at the Ramsgate...that and Harvey's Sussex Best in good form makes it an absolute winner in my book. Turner's and The Queen's Head will see me stride thru their doorways on my next visit indeed as I simply adore a neighborhood spot that is set back well away from high traffic areas. The pint in The Queen's Head will simply taste better for me knowing that The Queen Mother graced the establishment with Her presence. She will always be my favorite Royal. A very good friend of mine worked for the RF and used to personally make her gin and tonics in the evening. Great stories he has. Well done Tweedy, cheers from the Jersey shore!
Thanks Al! Really glad you liked the mix of pubs here. Yes the Queen Mother was a great character and it's nice that she left such a lasting impression on the Queen's Head - 37 years after her visit and you can still feel her presence there.
Fantastic stuff mate! Loved all of them!! Nice to see your new umbrella making a subtle guest appearance!!
As always, keep up the good work!👌
Thanks Paul! Well spotted on the umbrella there - I didn't really intend that to be an Easter egg - I just naturally hung it up on the bar each time I needed both hands free to do some of those interior shots but it did end up getting a recurring cameo role!
Hi Tweedy Pubs from Washington DC. We are thoroughly enjoying your channel, congrats on your success there. Last year when I was in London, wife working in Westminster, while I wandered around London, I visited a surprising number of the pubs you have featured. So fun to see your comments on them. Question for you--Do you know of any self-guided audio walking tours of pubs? Something you can download and guides you walking from one to the next? We have done the Rick Steves walking tours of London in his app, and have seen a few pubs along those guided walks, but I'd like something more focused on pubs in a neighborhood. We'll be visiting again soon, so thanks for any advice.
Wonderful video, Tweedy! Some tourist pubs seen in a refreshingly different light, due to your unique observations. Thank you!
Thanks David! I hope I didn't spoil the famous histories of these pubs too much - it's usually not my intention to debunk these pub myths, I just like to go and look in the historical records to see what evidence there is and if there's anything I can find which adds some colour to those stories... but it more often than not ends up revealing the history on those pubs signs isn't quite right!
Those pubs look really great - I'll have to get out to Wapping next time I'm in London to check these out. Shame there's no Farrow & Ball paint on show though - I always loook forward to your disparaging comments!
Hahaha yes there was happily very little Farrow & Ball paint to be seen!
Thank you John for a lovely selection of very atmospheric and historically important pubs. All definitely worthy of a visit and almost all with an inviting selection of hand drawn beer. You did well to visit them at what looked like a quiet time. No doubt those pubs, which back on the Thames, attract quite a tourist following at certain times of the year. Until the next one, cheers 🍺👍😀 Now, where can I find a porter in Berkshire 🤔
Thanks Andrew! It wasThursday lunchtime when I visited these pubs, I was in the area not long after 11am, thinking I'd get some exterior shots done before the pubs open, then discovered the Prospect of Whitby actually opens at 11:30. So I almost had the place to myself, which is a rare treat. I think that's probably the one of the five covered here that draws the biggest crowds although I suspect it's more a place people go for a meal rather than to stand at the bar and drink five pints after work, so it's probably never packed in that sense, like some city pubs are.
The Bell at Aldworth was always a good place for mild, I don't recall whether they'd often have a porter on, but there was always something there I really liked the look of, and it is of course a really beautiful pub!
Brilliant pubs, these and ye olde mitre inn, Ely court, off Hatton garden are my top places in town.
Very enjoyable review
In which, Tweedy goes to the seaside (ish) and drinks Harvey’s. Hoorah!
Coming up in 2024: Tweedy does Historic Fish and Chip shops (o;
What’s this? Nearly 4k subs? I bet they’re already polishing your silver YT plaque.
Brilliant iI have just subscibed,your videos are interesting and can see a lot of research goes into them,Thank you
Thank you for another great video! Great trips down memory lane for me.
I have fond memories of the area and each of these pubs from my time living in London.
As someone else mentioned, also great how you included your umbrella in the shots :)
Thanks Graham! I think I first did a tour of the pubs in the area back in 2009, I've been back every once in a while since then and always really enjoyed it. It's like visiting a coastal village but you're still in London!
It wasn't really planned to turn this video into a game of "spot the umbrella" - it was just convenient to hang it on the bar each time I was busy taking interior shots!
Good work tweedy👌🏻
Go through the Rotherhithe tunnel or over Tower bridge, there are still a few locals knocking about.
Excellent! Did all these last year in wapping then headed to Rotherhithe for Mayflower and Angel, will be doing a Thames run part 2 this year including Limehouse, great video as always Tweedy! Cheers sir! 🍻
Thank you! Yes in the past when I've been to this area I'd normally combine a couple of these Wapping/Limehouse pubs with those two over in Rotherhithe. The very first time I tried that it went a bit awry though as I hadn't checked the map properly and didn't realise there was no way of crossing the river around here! It was in that 2007 - 2010 period where the line formerly known as the East London line was closed ahead of it being merged into the Overground network. I considered walking through the Rotherhithe Tunnel which I believe was technically possible at that time but really not a good idea!
Thanks for the video, those were a nice selection of pubs and I liked your umbrella hanging on to the bar counters in most of them. 👍
Thanks Ysgolgerlan and well spotted on the umbrella!
Another very enjoyable watch. Looking forward to the next one. Cheers!
Thank you!
Tweedy I say the same thing each time, but i do love your videos combining wonderful london boozers and commenting on their history. I dont know that area of London very well at all - my boozing years were Fleet St, Strand, Soho, Covent Garden, Holborn, Farringdon etc, so its great to see new options for when all that free time in retirement beckons. Top man Tweedy and really enjoying your content.
Thanks Rob! The area has a very different feel from those city pubs - it's kind of half way between the East End and a sleepy fishing village! Definitely makes for a nice day out, in my opinion, and there's the option to combine it with the pubs just over the river in Rotherhithe (the Angel and the Mayflower) which I have covered before (as well as the Prospect of Whitby featured here) in an old video, but it was made before I started this channel proper, and I think they deserve revisiting to get the proper Tweedy Pubs treatment.
Wonderful video, thank you. Turner's is added to my growing list of must visit. Happy Easter.
Thanks Cedric and I hope you have a great Easter too.
Good eye and great research! Added a few to my growing list of pubs to visit🎉
Thanks L&J! I think this is a great area of London for pubs, and offers a very different atmosphere to the centre. Good to combine with Rotherhithe over the river - the Angel and the Mayflower - I think I'll probably head there for my next video, but haven't quite made up my mind yet.
Love those Wapping and Limehouse pubs and that area in general. We saw a seal in the Thames off of the back deck of the Whitby last time we were there.
It is a great area for pubs, and such a different feel from central London. Alas I've never seen any marine wildlife in the Thames there - that must have been an amazing sight!
Did you see any Thames trout?
@@jamiewilson5679 No we didn't.
I did the Grapes, prospect, ramsgate and also captain kidd. Also great historic boozers...bit I think the turner's old star would have been my favourite, looked fantastic...Good stuff John👍
Thanks Dave! I've been to this area many times before but I've always stuck to the more famous riverside pubs, so Turner's Old Star was new to me too. It would be great to be in there with the Yeoman Warders / Beefeaters are having a session - although I assume they're not in uniform!
Love the little Wapping pubs
Me too Stuart, it's a great area!
Nice selection of pubs there with character nice to see a porter on in the first three pubs Thanks and 🍻
Thanks John - yes porter does seem to be enjoying a revival at the moment, which is definitely a good thing.
Good job Sir Tweedy. Been to the first 2 a few times and now will go this September to the rest. Well, I’ll start with The Angel, then The Mayflower before going across the Thames to finish the others. Then probably to The Golden Chippy in Greenwich for dinner. I do love this town. Again, thanks for the work you have done. Miss the questionable lighting and sketchy sound of some of the earlier videos but I have to say you have really done a lot of improvement in a short amount of time. Not that I would have stopped watching if you didn’t. Cheers!
Thank you! Yes it makes a lot of sense to combine this area with the Angel and Mayflower over the river.
I'm increasingly leaning towards doing most of the audio / narration back at home now as it was often hard to find a quiet corner of the pub to do the talking to camera bits. I really like hearing the background of the pub when it's the murmur of conversation or the clinking of glasses (or in this video the lapping of the water on the balcony at the back of the pub!), but when it's piped music or air conditioning units or road traffic it really isn't helping much! I'll keep tweaking the format though - maybe with a better microphone setup there's some way to get the best of both worlds.
You put a lot of work into these videos. Thank you they are very interesting.
You could do a 'history of English pubs' book.
Thanks Alan! Yes I seem to be going a bit overboard on the amount of time it takes to make these - originally it would be one day of research + half a day of filming + one day of editing. This time round I seemed to be working flat out on it from Sunday evening until Friday lunchtime. I do find the historical research side of it fascinating and that's where the danger of spending far too much time lies - so many rabbit holes to get stuck in!
The Old Ship is not far from the visits you made for this video which has a sometimes chaotic but always local feel about it.
I wasn't quite sure what to make of The Old Ship in its current guise - is the big rainbow flag over the door a new thing?
@@TweedyPubs do you mean has it always been a gay bar? I’m unsure. It doesn’t impact the taste of the Timmy Taylor though
@@MyMpc1 Good to hear!
Should have many more subs.
Hi John, that really is a fantastic advert for the area. Loved the way the pubs had two frontages. Interesting to see that there were several porters on tap, is that a new thing? I just had it down as being a bottled bear.
Thinking about it this route really should have been done in a boat, in fact three men in a boat, you, Mr WC21 and Hedley. Hedley being the junior tweedest would have to be assigned rowing duties!!
Great summary and historical investigation. Well done!!
Have a great Easter!!
Thanks David! Yes I think porter is enjoying a bit of a revival, and I'm seeing it more often on hand pumps in pubs. I'm very glad to be honest as it's something the trendy modern breweries seem to be into at the moment, but they generally always do it in a fairly traditional, inoffensive style. Whereas they normally would turn their noses up at other traditional English beer styles like bitter - or they do it "with a twist", which always means those confounded new hops (Cascade, Citra and so on) which make beer taste like grapefruit.
So sometimes I go into a pub and the porter is a life saver - the only thing on the hand pumps which isn't grapefruit flavoured. Surprisingly that was the case at Turner's Old Star, I wouldn't have guessed they would be into those trendy modern grapefruity beers there - but perhaps Wapping is actually a bit "hip" in the evenings?
Porter was of course the main London beer back in the late Georgian / early Victorian era. That would probably be an interesting subject for a video one day - a history of beer styles in London throughout the ages. All the way up to the modern nadir of creeping grapefruit dominance!
Yes I did consider getting to the area a bit earlier and trying to get some shots from one of the boats that goes from Tower Bridge to Canary Wharf. A rowing boat with Mr WC21 and Hedley would have been even more fun! Albeit perhaps a stretch of the river best left to more seasoned sailors.
I hope you have a great Easter too!
Very interesting to see the return of porter, I honestly don't think I've tried it before. It's one of those names you often see on old pub signage. I think I would give it a try on a hand pump but probably not in a bottle!!
A story of London beer styles would be a great idea and maybe breweries too. Last time in London I took some photos from Tower Bridge and focussed in on a chimney on the southside which peeked my curiosity. This turns out to be the anchor brewery famous for Courage and now flats!!. I wonder how many other historic brewery buildings still exist?
Maybe beer styles are circular and porter will start to overtake these more modern "grapefruit" beers, that then poses the question what will replace porter ...... could Watneys Red Barrel make a return under a wave of 70s nostalgia, will party 7 cans return once more to litter our streets?
Wise decision not to take on the Thames in a rowing boat I can just see you all clinging on to that statue and the oars floating off downstream.....
Another sublime effort, will be down there Easter Sunday.
Queens Head is a favourite, you also have The Ship across the square. Simply the best old pubs in London. As for Turner's Old Star, "I came here for a shootout, a proper shootout, with some proper men". Obviously I dropped the profanity.
Thank you! I hope you have a great time on Sunday.
@@dodgyg3697 Is that a line from Legend? I haven't seen it, but I read somewhere they used Turner's Old Star as a filming location.
@@TweedyPubsit is indeed.
I think the Queen's Head public bar dates from the late 1920's based on similar ones that I have seen from that period.
Thanks Liam - I suppose I always think of bar counters of the inter-war era being curved and/or sloping, whereas this was a lot more angular.... but there was obviously more than one design style in existence during that period of history! I was really struggling to place it - those lamps (and to a lesser extent the glazing in the gantry) were leaning a bit art nouveau but the slightly blocky / spartan style of the lower bar counter had an air of post-war austerity to it.
Hello mate, What about the pubs of Hammersmith down by the river? Some really nice old boozers there.
The Wapping Old Stairs has a few performances available on UA-cam.
Thanks for the tip off! I'll go and take a look.
I am impressed by your research, in both its detail and depth. However these are just pubs, and do enjoy your general observations- regarding both the architecture, beer choice and general ambiance. So, more shots of you actually drinking beer in said pubs… conjecture always trumps facts 😂
Thanks for the feedback - I'm still trying to hone the format! As you may have seen in earlier videos I tended to record the talking bits, with a beer in hand, in the pub, rather than later on back at home. I really liked that for the atmosphere, but it was difficult in some pubs to find a spot to do that where there wasn't too much background noise and I wouldn't be disturbing the other customers. I also had some feedback that from time to time it was a bit hard to hear what I was saying when I did it that way. It's nice to have background sound effects if it's the clinking of glasses or the gentle murmur of conversation but it's less appealing when it's inane piped music / road works / air conditioning units!
Oh and then some people left comments that they couldn't bear the sight of my face! Why wasn't I just showing the pub interiors the whole time!
Perhaps I'll try and aim for a bit of a hybrid in future videos - with a bit more talking actually in the pub (with a beer in hand) wherever that's feasible.
Hello! Missing my Tweedy Pubs tour. Haven’t seen a new video in 2 weeks. Hope all is well with you
Thanks for asking! I've just been traveling / spending time with family over the Easter holidays so I took a bit of a break from making the pub videos. Hopefully normal service will be resumed next week!
@@TweedyPubs family time is essential! Glad all is well!
Pirates might well have been hung, you’d have to have asked their partners; they were hanged at Wapping ‘though 🥴. Very interesting content; thanks 👍
Up towards Shadwell and Whitechapel next?
Not quite sure yet - I covered some of Whitechapel in my previous video, but there's definitely more of the East End to come.
You forgot the barley mow
Is that your brolly Tweedy?
Well spotted - yes it is!
I've been in every one of these pubs. I did not like the Town of Ramsgate; the service was incredibly slow and the staff were ignorant and rude. That was over ten years ago so hopefully it has improved.
Sorry to hear that Lawrence - a bad experience like that can really spoil a pub. The staff were very pleasant and welcoming on my visit so yes hopefully that is all in the past!
👉*LEARNING GEOGRAPHY WITH MR TWEED*👈
I had no idea that Wapping was on the river.
_Shamefully returns to ignoramus' corner_
Fear not AFT, you are in good company - I still have plenty of gaps in my London geography knowledge!