Secrets of Shad Thames, London SE1

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  • @DJ-mr6um
    @DJ-mr6um Місяць тому +6

    I moved to bermondsey because of this history and now I get to work on the other end of shad thames and do this walk every day. I LOVE it.

  • @jme917
    @jme917 2 місяці тому +30

    Love Bermondsey and love being born and raised here. My family can go back 8 generations(maybe more). As a kid we used to run around in them old warehouses before they were converted to expensive homes

  • @garymepsted9741
    @garymepsted9741 2 місяці тому +156

    As a student in London in the late 70s I remember conducting many photographic recces of Shad Thames and environs. It was pretty much derelict at the time, but a wonderful location. I still have the hundreds of slides from those trips. Fabulous video. Thank you.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +35

      Thanks so much Gary. Would love to see those slides 😉

    • @clair233
      @clair233 2 місяці тому +9

      Do you have a instagram account where we can see them?

    • @CO-dv6py
      @CO-dv6py 2 місяці тому +12

      I would love to see those too!

    • @garymepsted9741
      @garymepsted9741 2 місяці тому +24

      I've just moved and they're still in a box somewhere. When I find them I'll be happy to get a few made into prints. I'd love to see them again, too.

    • @HighWealder
      @HighWealder 2 місяці тому +6

      1977 I bought my first decent camera, I think a Pentax KX. Walked from London Bridge to Rotherhithe and shot a roll of black and white film, I had it developed, but never printed and need to have another look for it.

  • @tonybaker55
    @tonybaker55 2 місяці тому +83

    My 3rd great grandfather and family lived in Back Street, Bermondsey from about 1801, when he married. He was a Waterman, as was his son, my 2nd great grandfather. It would not surprise me if they used to use the Horselydown Old Stairs. He was also married in St John's and my 2nd great grandfather was buried at St Mary Magdalen. They moved to Jamaica Terrace then Printers Place. After this, my great grandfather moved out to Plumstead, where my grandfather was born. My great grandfather married a woman, whose family were involved in the leather trade. He became the Corn Meter for London and founded a Corn Merchant business that my father and his brother ran for about forty years.
    Every time I go up to London now, I always wander the streets of Bermondsey.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +16

      Brilliant comment Tony. What a family history to have, incredible.

    • @tonybaker55
      @tonybaker55 2 місяці тому +4

      @@Robslondon thanks Rob, isn't it just.

    • @johannebaker9730
      @johannebaker9730 2 місяці тому +6

      Me too. My Dsd born there in 1921. 😊

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +3

      @@johannebaker9730 wow ;-)

    • @capt.bart.roberts4975
      @capt.bart.roberts4975 2 місяці тому +10

      My mum's family were watermen and lighterman going back that far. We actually had family living on Jacob's Island going back years. Dad's side were book binders, going back years. Both families are mentioned by name in The Records of The Old Bailey. One of whom my old man always said, with certain amount of pride, "Hung for sheep stealing son!"

  • @terryoastler9254
    @terryoastler9254 2 місяці тому +17

    As a child living in Arnold’s Estate and St John’s Estate, Shad Thames holds rich memories for me. My Dad worked for Courages as a driver. His lorry was used to transport a dray to horse shows to compete against the other London breweries such as Watneys and Charringtons. I can still smell the spices from the warehouses. Walking through at night was a very spooky experience.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +2

      Beautiful comment Terry. Thanks so much for sharing.

  • @RobinHullBuilds
    @RobinHullBuilds 2 місяці тому +38

    Hey Rob
    I started work in nearby Bermondsey Street in 1979, although I’d visited the area much earlier, including standing on London Bridge with my older brother watching HMS Belfast being brought into the Pool in 1971.
    Back in the late 70’s Shad Thames was very much derelict, in as much as there were very few, if any, operating merchants there.
    From my office in Bermondsey Street, I worked for The Stage Newspaper, I would cross Tower Bridge Road, passing Sarson’s and its giant vat of malt vinegar. Down Tooley Street to St Saviours Dock. I would then enter Shad Thames.
    Shad Thames was always very dark, even during the day, and it took you back to Victorian times. On wet days the empty warehouses smelled of cinnamon and spices and tea. The bridges that criss-crossed the road made you feel like you were in a tunnel. It was such a special place.
    From Shad Thames I’d make my way to the empty wharves near the Belfast, find an old mooring bollard and eat my corn beef sarnie. There were very few people about as the area was still very much derelict. Happy Days!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +6

      Robin, this comment is simply superb. Really enjoyed reading it- so evocative. Thank you.

    • @jamndunk
      @jamndunk Місяць тому +3

      My sis in law, a Fleet Street journalist in the 1970s, wrote the article about HMS Belfast's last journey which was displayed next to HMS Belfast at its final mooring.

  • @TMGold60
    @TMGold60 2 місяці тому +29

    Can you believe Shad Thames and along the embankment area was my playground - some areas looked just like Fagans den, even the murky green little water channels and inlets. Many of the buildings although locked by their huge gates were easy to get into, and only when Maggie Thatcher enriched the Thames by making it a millionaires pad & playground/ the arts & restaurants replaced rotting architecture did locals start to see gates locked and security guards with dogs and prolific building. As a child the danger we put ourselves in was incredible but so much fun! Later as an Art student at a local college we used this area while still being conserved/ built for its lovely textures/ ruins and age all a real inspiration for us. Still call this home even though moved abroad and now in Cornwall. Depraved area but the history was phenomenal! Thank you

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +2

      A superb comment. Thank you.

    • @TMGold60
      @TMGold60 2 місяці тому +3

      @@Robslondon My pleasure! I shared your video on FB - this is what I added.... This is my London - where I grew up, a very depraved area along the Thames but rich in London's history, near to the prominent Bridges and my Tower of London. Dickens was inspired to write many a book here, and hardly surprising. As a child I played in many of these desecrated buildings, played on the banks of the Thames seeking treasures, and lived to tell the tale; our playground fired up my imagination and why I love to express myself creatively. Some of us were scarred, treading on nails, cutting knees on glass etc but our games set us free from the daily drudge of the grey, poverty-stricken area. Later Maggie Thatcher decided to preserve and turn the Shad Thames and Embankment into a millionaires escape in the city of London with riverside luxury pads, the Arts and fine dining on the doorstep. She literally turned around the area, built new homes and basically cleaned up in a huge investment which in-turn provided better homes for locals and new jobs! I have to applaud her for that - the task was huge and successful but still kept the character and history alive. I remember well, the times before and after, its a strange sensation but where I still call home. 🫶

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +1

      @@TMGold60 Lovely! 🙂

  • @michaelgilbey6692
    @michaelgilbey6692 2 місяці тому +13

    As a London Firefighter, when I was learning to operate the 100 ft hydraulic Turntable Ladder, we used to come here in the days before regeneration as part of our course. Due to the many overhead obstacles that the elevated walkways provided, it was an ideal location for learning how to deal with difficult pitches of the ladder.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +1

      Interesting, thanks Michael.

  • @michaelgibson4705
    @michaelgibson4705 2 місяці тому +14

    Growing up in the Dockhead area in the 50s and 60s I vividly remember the Shad Thames when it was a working dock the smell of spice the total chaos with Lorry’s blocking access to the wharehouses the noise of ships hooters coming and going at all times of the night and day.and New Year’s Eve at midnight when all the ships in port would sound their horns.So long ago

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +1

      Brilliant comment Michael. So evocative, thanks for sharing.

  • @tmac9972
    @tmac9972 2 місяці тому +36

    As a young boy i fell in love with the movie Oliver from 1968. Although I loved the characters and story it was the backdrop of where it took place the great Victorian city of London that a truly loved most.

    • @enemde3025
      @enemde3025 2 місяці тому +3

      The original 1948 film is much better. It's a lot darker and more of what it would have looked like. Unlike the "Hollywood type" made up sets in the musical !

    • @veronicafullford1697
      @veronicafullford1697 2 місяці тому

      @@enemde3025 The 1948 film was really atmospheric and realistic. Oliver Reed was slightly more terrifying than Robert Newton in the Bill Sikes roles. Both men, oddly enough, had a problem with drink. Bill Sikes himself and Nancy were based on the Eliza Grimwood murder.

    • @TMGold60
      @TMGold60 2 місяці тому +3

      I think I loved Oliver more because I played in the ruins, so atmospheric and the walls of each building really spoke to you.

    • @deanodog3667
      @deanodog3667 2 місяці тому +3

      Would love to have seen Victorian London, warts n all !!

    • @TMGold60
      @TMGold60 2 місяці тому +2

      @@deanodog3667 So much poverty then and many children often didnt make it with pollution & diseases - the rich and poor so contrasting then but yes, I know what you mean. The homes were dark then, lots of heavy textiles and dark paint, I prefer the Edwardian times a breath of fresh air! ;)

  • @arrjay2410
    @arrjay2410 2 місяці тому +46

    Fascinating. I remember the episode of Dr. Who done there, and always wondered about the area.
    I live in Canada but am of British extraction. I haven't been to England since 2006 and regrettably only got to spend a day in London on a one-week visit, so I love watching your reports.
    My English grands-parents were of Cockney extraction, though they left London after getting married and repressed their accents.
    I only heard my grandmother revert after she had a stroke in her 90s.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +7

      A wonderful comment arrjay, thank you. Hope you make it back here soon 🇨🇦🇬🇧

    • @danielcox3152
      @danielcox3152 2 місяці тому +3

      Yes The Talons of Weng Chiang and Resurrection of the Daleks. I went to Shad Thames in 2007. It looked so much cleaner when I visited

  • @warrenslattery8915
    @warrenslattery8915 2 місяці тому +23

    Great video. I grew up on Arnold Estate across Jamaica Rd. My dad uses to take me and my brother to the Tower of London, and we'd walk through here. I remember in the mid 80's when I was about 5 he'd ask if we could smell the spices from the old warehouses on shad thames and I could. Was all derelict then, but it belonged to us, it was part of us who were from Bermondsey, sadly no longer.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +4

      Beautiful comment Warren, thank you. In the video with Bob Hoskins, they do mention how you can still smell curry powder in the air :-) Cheers and stay well.

    • @a.c.4732
      @a.c.4732 2 місяці тому

      I know mate .
      It's utterly heartbreaking what "Sir Dick" has done to OUR London .

  • @JJherne
    @JJherne 2 місяці тому +26

    I proposed to my wife at the top of Maggie Blake’s Cause on the corner where it joins the river front path (right where you stopped to film Tower Bridge). Great memory, thanks for sharing this video. (She said yes btw).

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +3

      Beautiful. Your comment just made my evening 😄

    • @TomTomicMic
      @TomTomicMic 2 місяці тому +1

      Had you said "girlfriend" at the beginning the bracketed bit at the end would have had more resonance, but a jolly slice of life's rich tapestry anyway!?!

  • @robbicu
    @robbicu 2 місяці тому +42

    I haven't seen "Oliver!" for years, but seeing Oliver Reed as Bill Sikes made me shudder! Took me right back. Thank you for another great journey!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому

      😄

    • @missmuffet3874
      @missmuffet3874 2 місяці тому +7

      Oliver Reed made the best Bill Sikes. ❤

    • @roringusanda2837
      @roringusanda2837 2 місяці тому +7

      Oliver Reed was a force of nature 😮

    • @davidshattock9522
      @davidshattock9522 2 місяці тому +8

      Oliver reed possibly most convincing Bill Sykes ever possibly.

    • @chrismaton01
      @chrismaton01 2 місяці тому +4

      You are so right. Bill Sikes was terrifying, totally wicked in the original film.

  • @sharonhart3111
    @sharonhart3111 2 місяці тому +19

    Oh fantastic, i really like this part of central london. Its lovely to walk along, and thanks for the Bob Hoskins link, wow i was a young girl at the time of that Omnibus programme, thank God not all of the old ware houses were knocked down. The history is so interesting and thank God for the campaigners for the area so that people can have access to the river thames. Nothing ever changes, people always have to fight for these kinds of things in society.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +1

      Lovely comment Sharon. Thank you.

  • @Lemma01
    @Lemma01 2 місяці тому +14

    Always a delight, Rob. As a Yuppie in the late-80s, these were just coming onto the market - but even then were beyond the pockets of most, starting at around £100k - when I could (and did) pick up a Dulwich-fringe 3-bed flat (with shared garden and off road parking for 3/4s of that: there were neither shops nor decent pubs back then, so no-one could have guessed they'd be worth millions one day...

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +1

      😄

    • @byrnemeister2008
      @byrnemeister2008 Місяць тому +1

      I don’t know. I seem to remember thinking they were going to be worth a fortune. I had a look around a Butlers Wharf warehouse conversion. Dual level. All industrial. Very New York. But no way I could afford it.

  • @izzieb
    @izzieb 2 місяці тому +18

    Thank you for shad-ding some light on the history of this part of Bermondsey.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +2

      🤣

    • @mewsli
      @mewsli 2 місяці тому +2

      You beat me to it @izzieb

  • @karenihms9413
    @karenihms9413 2 місяці тому +15

    My sister lived in the anchor brewhouse for a few years. You cannot beat the view! She is still in the area and we love the atmospheric feel of the place and it's proximity to a London Bridge station and the Borough market whenever we visit.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +1

      Nice comment, thanks Karen ☺️

  • @leebalmforth2269
    @leebalmforth2269 2 місяці тому +18

    It's sad to think how much of our history we have lost 😢
    I really appreciate the video 😁

  • @mickontherock1
    @mickontherock1 2 місяці тому +11

    Brilliant as always Rob. I spent many happy years working at Courage brewery until it sadly closed. Not to mention a few sore heads thanks to the Copper pub and the Anchor Tap. There was a barmaid working in the Anchor whose name has sadly escaped me who wouldn’t take any nonsense in her pub. The language I learned from her!! Happy days and wonderful people who I remember fondly.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +1

      Brilliant comment Mick.

  • @DeeDerry
    @DeeDerry 2 місяці тому +12

    As a kid, my nan used to always take us 'up London', which was basically her version of a lil tour lol. We were only from South London, but it was always a great day out for us! She would take us all over West End, Westminster, The City and the Thames. Now as an adult, I'm always rushing around London forgetting to appreciate these gems...Thanks for the memories 😊❤️

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +3

      Such a lovely comment Dee, thank you :-)

  • @Jlocko67
    @Jlocko67 Місяць тому +7

    Great video to trip across; takes me down memory lane. I worked for three different design agencies in the early 90's one on Curlew St, one in The Cirlce and Conran and Partners on Shad Thames. The noise from construction was horrific at times. At one point I worked with SIr Terence Conran on Shad Thames when Conran and Partners was a fledging agency, very exciting times and had a hand in the brand work for Le Pont de la Tour, The Chop House, and Cantina as well as Conran Contracts.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому

      Wow! Nice connection to have 😉

  • @RobbieHall1984
    @RobbieHall1984 2 місяці тому +30

    Excellent history as usual Rob, it's better than watching TV, keep up the good work, thanks 👍

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +2

      Thanks so much Robbie 😉 Really kind of you to say, hope you’re keeping well

    • @freespeechoneeach
      @freespeechoneeach 2 місяці тому +3

      brilliant comment! anything is better than tv these days, especially factual entertaining and informative vlogs like this.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +1

      @@freespeechoneeach Thank you so much 😀

  • @AnthonyBrown12324
    @AnthonyBrown12324 2 місяці тому +8

    I worked In London Bridge Hospital for a few years ; so I walked through that area in search of a pharmacy . It's a bit of a maze . Great video as usual .

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому

      Thanks Anthony, it is a bit of a maze, yes!

  • @llwyde1104
    @llwyde1104 2 місяці тому +8

    I remember Shad Thames before the docks moved out. I wish I'd had the courage to have to wander about...Standing with back to the Thames looking down St Saviour's Dock is very evocative indeed.

  • @smdphotogphotography7726
    @smdphotogphotography7726 Місяць тому +5

    Great video, I grew up in that area from the late 1960s to the late 1980's, I remember playing around the docks with my friends, could still smell the spices! Also fished off the steps for eels, I was filmed by the BBC news when the spaceshuttle flew over Tower Bridge and had to act out in my best London street urchin voice "coor blimey, look at that" 😅 Also I saw many a film and pop video filmed there and even now I still go back for my photography.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +1

      What a wonderful comment! I really enjoyed reading that, thank you 🤩

  • @jackjames3190
    @jackjames3190 2 місяці тому +33

    SUPERB video Rob 🎉 your content just gets better and better - BRAVO 🎉🎉🎉

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +1

      Bless you Jack, thank you so much!

  • @dennisholmwood3999
    @dennisholmwood3999 2 місяці тому +7

    I used to work in Shad Thames ( Mobile Merchandising) printing Tee shirts
    1978/9 Jamaica rd opposite the pub Dockhead stores ,also used to use the pub around the corner next to the fire station
    Swan & sugarloaf great memories . Have used The restaurant Pont de la tour a couple of times right on the river
    Near Tower bridge ,I love all the history of the area and the many pubs along the river.

  • @wendalboy
    @wendalboy 2 місяці тому +25

    Rob is the man to make your Sunday night - enjoying the video on an interesting part of town

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +2

      Really appreciate that Wendal, thanks mate

  • @davidelkins3826
    @davidelkins3826 Місяць тому +5

    10/10!! I work and have worked in Bermondsey for years! Always great to know the history of an area...

  • @pj_naylor
    @pj_naylor 2 місяці тому +14

    Fascinating, as always, Rob - thanks. I spent many pleasant Thursday nights in the Anchor Tap in the late 80s & early 90s, without realising that it was the original Courage pub. If you ever get the time it would be lovely to have a video all about the Hawksmoor churches.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +5

      Thank you so much. I would like to do a video on Hawksmoor, he was incredible… stay tuned 😉

  • @duncanleith9172
    @duncanleith9172 2 місяці тому +7

    I don't know how things are these days, haven't returned in decades, but in the '60s you could smell the spices in the very brickwork of the warehouses, heady and nostalgic.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +1

      Yes, in the Bob Hoskins clip it is mentioned that you can still smell the curry powder in the air!

    • @suerhodes635
      @suerhodes635 2 місяці тому +2

      I’ve lived in London since 1992. I remember smelling the spices when walking along Shad Thames on rainy days in the ‘90’s 🤩

  • @hArtyTruffle
    @hArtyTruffle 2 місяці тому +11

    That was great! Thanks Rob. I live in SE1 and used to go on weekly group walks around the area with a guide who knew a little about the area. There was so much in this upload that I’d never heard before. Very enjoyable indeed. 👍🏼

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому

      Thank you so much hArtyTruffle :-)

    • @a.c.4732
      @a.c.4732 2 місяці тому

      Years ago , I took my two kids on a RiverBoat trip, ( the big red & white one - can't remember the name )
      Most tour guides have a knack of droning on and sending you into a coma ....
      Our chap was absolutely fascinating , held everybody's attention young and old , start to finish .
      Relevant , eye-opening information .
      I remember him telling us that the saying "Dutch Courage" goes back to the Great Plague (mid 1600's) when only Dutch Ships would come up the river with their goods , else the Port would have had to shut down which would have been a catastrophe for an area dependent on The Docks for so much trade .
      I have nothing but utter contempt for that Odious Little Twerp and what he has done to OUR London .

  • @beth12svist
    @beth12svist 2 місяці тому +7

    This is exactly why I like your channel - I've never been to London, never really heard of this place, and here's a whole lot of fascinating "ordinary people" history I never would have learned about.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +1

      Thank you so much Beth, that means a lot to me. Stay well.

  • @keithrose6931
    @keithrose6931 2 місяці тому +10

    Great documentary.

  • @liamkatt6434
    @liamkatt6434 2 місяці тому +12

    Fantastic video Rob. It's great the way the old buildings have been preserved and given a nod to their past instead of being knocked down. I remember as a fifteen year old taking shorts cuts to beat the crowds of Liverpool city by walking up Matthew Street, then a road of warehouses and wagons. Now of course it is a mega Beatle's shrine and I look at the bars and restaurants and can see the men who once hoisted up heavy sacks and smell the old smells.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +1

      Lovely comment Liam, thank you. Really evocative description of Liverpool too; nice.

  • @joanfreestone1707
    @joanfreestone1707 2 місяці тому +8

    Thank you for this really interesting video, Rob. I live in Western Australia. On a holiday in England in 2018 I walked around this area and had lunch in the Anchor Tap. I was born in London and have always felt a connection with it.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +1

      Lovely comment Joan, thank you 🤩

  • @NealMurfitt
    @NealMurfitt 2 місяці тому +4

    Hi Rob. I've been a cycle courier in London since 1985. It's great to find out about the places I know so well. Thank you.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +1

      Thanks so much Neal- stay safe out there mate.

  • @raythomas4812
    @raythomas4812 2 місяці тому +6

    Hi Rob. That was a fascinating and well produced video/documentary. I was Born in Mile End (1962) , and have been to Shad Thames several times and is now just another example of London that People born in London can't afford to live in, but it looks nice though

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +2

      Thanks Ray, and yes sadly you’re quite right.

  • @davehustwayte689
    @davehustwayte689 2 місяці тому +5

    Evening Rob, Hope you are keeping well, This is a fantastic video and one of my favourite parts of London. I also have to say excellent production, Really top quality, Thank you

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому

      Dave, that is so kind of you, I truly appreciate your kind words and generous support.
      Were good thank you, hope you are too.
      Thanks again my friend, much appreciated. Stay well.

  • @AlannahRyane
    @AlannahRyane 2 місяці тому +13

    Oh Rob this was wonderful. Bravo you pulled me in immediately! I love your flow and how you move through your stories. Thank you ... went great with my dinner and wine. ❤

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому

      Such a lovely comment Alannah, many thanks indeed ☺️ Hope you enjoyed your dinner!

  • @arthunter92
    @arthunter92 2 місяці тому +7

    Thank you for this video. This area is so often overlooked. It was the walkways that first captured my imagination here and over the years I’ve learnt a lot of its history, of which this video had added to. It’s almost like time travelling walking these historic streets of south London…

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +1

      Great comment arthunter, thank you

  • @keithgooden6299
    @keithgooden6299 Місяць тому +3

    I used to walk through Shad Thames from Tooley Street to the 78 bus stop on Tower Bridge. 1971-76. We dared each other to do it as it had no street lighting and in the depths of winter was a spooky walk, what has gone now are the smells. It was a heady mix of spices, coffee and tea ….. The walls actually bled a heady scent . If you touched them you’d carry the wonderful odour with you… I wish I could afford to live there, but locals were pushed away from the rich enclave it became…..

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +2

      Fantastic comment Keith, thank you- I enjoyed reading that

  • @tobybrennan18
    @tobybrennan18 2 місяці тому +6

    Another very interesting piece of history from the city. I used to walk through some of the places seen on your vids and often think to myself 'wow I wish I had someone who could fill me in on the history of this place'.. say no more! Quality stuff mate.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому

      Ah, thanks so much Toby! Lovely comment; cheers 😉

  • @ClaireThomas-u6x
    @ClaireThomas-u6x Місяць тому +1

    I come from London and walked around many times but never knew all this. Thank you for sharing

  • @lighthackerslimited
    @lighthackerslimited Місяць тому +2

    Fascinating.. I worked for ITN 5 News.. for some years located in Northern and Shell building..on Lower Thames St. So this was our daily view from opposite the river.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому

      Nice comment, thanks ☺️

  • @wendysimpson6395
    @wendysimpson6395 2 місяці тому +5

    Hi, I used to live just off Tooley Street in the late 1970s at the Tower Bridge end. It was a dodgy area then and I had to put my little Puch Maxi inside at night.The police would move those sleeping 'rough' outside every night at 12.15. The old warehouses were impressive. On my days off I used to walk over to the shop in St Catherine's Docks. No hotel back then. If I'd bee3out on the tube I jogged home down Tooley St which had many 'doss houses'. There was a quintessential Italian restaurant in one of the alleyways and I still make my basic spaghetti bolognese using the owner's advice!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому

      Nice comment Wendy, thank you ☺️

  • @mats7492
    @mats7492 2 місяці тому +5

    Ive been to London countless times but theres always new stuff to learn about it!

  • @Michael-zy2hf
    @Michael-zy2hf 2 місяці тому +9

    Excellent video Rob very much appreciated can’t wait till the next one

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +1

      Thank you Michael, that’s really kind of you

  • @liamgriffiths4658
    @liamgriffiths4658 2 місяці тому +4

    Great video as usual Rob. Thank you so much. Some scenes from the Sherlock Holmes film ‘Murder by Decree’ were also shot in this area, it’s very atmospheric and well worth a watch.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +1

      Thank you Liam- and that’s a good one 😉

  • @andrews527
    @andrews527 2 місяці тому +6

    Wish I'd had this to show when I taught Geography, thanks.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому

      Thank you so much Andrew, that’s a massive compliment. Stay well.

  • @Nina5144
    @Nina5144 Місяць тому +2

    Thank you. Beautiful city, great video and great narration.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому

      I really appreciate your kind words Nina, thank you.

  • @chrisbree3467
    @chrisbree3467 2 місяці тому +2

    I’m not a Londoner & I don’t recognise many of the places in this video but I still found it fascinating. Thank you for taking the time to educate me.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +1

      It’s an absolute pleasure Chris! Thank you for watching 😉

  • @Brian17-l4i
    @Brian17-l4i 2 місяці тому +2

    Thanks Rob, I only live about a 1 & 1/2 from Shad Thames in Bermondsey and I used to work in that area. I wasn't aware of the origin of those names, particularly Maggie Blake's Cause and the local history. So thanks for explaining it so well and I've subscribed. 👍🤗

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому

      Thanks so much Brian! Good to have you here.

    • @Brian17-l4i
      @Brian17-l4i 2 місяці тому

      @@Robslondon Cheers Rob, I can vaguely remember it as a child in the late 70s. It was creepy back then, but it had a load more character. Is it true that Bill Sykes' character was based on factual incidents or is it just fiction?🤗

  • @aabincalif
    @aabincalif 2 місяці тому +3

    Fantastic documentary, thanks so much for creating this. I’m lucky enough to live in Butler’s Wharf and love learning about the area. A few newer films that show Shad Thames include Ghosted with Chris Evans , The Veil (last episode) with Elizabeth Moss, and due to release next year, Back in Action with Cameron Diaz (we watched them film a motorcycle chase down the jetty and off the pier).

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому

      Thank you so much- and those are great references, thank you!

  • @Joncl
    @Joncl 2 місяці тому +7

    Fascinating as ever. Thank you!

  • @SalvatoreBabones
    @SalvatoreBabones 2 місяці тому +2

    Thanks you for these charming mini documentaries!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому

      Salvatore, thank you so much my friend! That is extremely kind of you; I truly appreciate your support :-) Thanks again and stay well.

  • @brianlopez8855
    @brianlopez8855 2 місяці тому +5

    Another wonderful yet thoroughly modest work, from Rob.
    Loved the old film clips of the area too.
    Worked nearby from 2008 to 2013.
    A fascinating bit of London. Superb river views.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому

      Lovely comment Brian, thank you so much.

  • @karenconnell787
    @karenconnell787 Місяць тому +1

    I worked at Towerbridge Police station in Tooley St, I loved my time there people were mostly friendly and I enjoyed my time walking the beat around Shad Thames, it had the most amazing smell of spices and always made me want some ginger cake! I was there when the area was turned into posh flats and remember well the giant horse Jacob floating down from the helicopter, we were all sand blasted from the dust it kicked up . Although I never lived in the area myself, my family on my mums side came from Bermondsey so I felt a sense of belonging, my great grandfather was a lighterman . I also got to work in Towerbridge magistrates court which is next door to the police station, which I believe has been turned into a fancy hotel. Our after work go to pub was the Anchor Tap. Happy days thanks for your tour

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому

      Wonderful comment Karen, thank you.
      I almost included Tower Bridge police station in this video, but decided to save it for a future video I hope to do on Tooley Street.
      Thanks again and stay well.

    • @karenconnell787
      @karenconnell787 Місяць тому

      @ I’ll look forward to that one

  • @garygoldsmith3887
    @garygoldsmith3887 2 місяці тому +1

    Fabulous video. Am a London lad, born in Islington. I remember the area in the 60/70s when it still had the old charatuer of real London, such a fabulous walk around. in the 70s i became a young chef at the Savoy for many years and have always enjoyed the socila history of London, especialy the old London as it used to be. This area was always a odd walk around as plenty of real people. Remember in the mid 70s being able to walk around and ee the various wharfs showing their food and product names which allowed a young chef to learn so much. HMS Belfast was a great visit as a kid with my Dad as a friend of mines Dad had been a chef on Belfast. In the late 70'early 80s remember the area being worked on, new restaurants owned by Terrance Conran and others with open kitchen so had opportunities to pop in and say hi to the Brigade of Chefs. Yes its a shame now since then that the area has lost its real London people with over priced appartments and much more. However, at least they have not been knocked down to mucha nd we can see how they were back in the day. have so many more memories of the areas. Thank you so much for another trip down my Home City of London, which is always with me.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому

      Gary, this is such a superb comment- I really enjoyed reading it; one of my favourites.
      I’ve always been fascinated by the work chefs do, so it’s very interesting to me that you used to walk around here picking up ideas!
      Thanks again for sharing your memories, and I truly appreciate your kind words too. Stay well mate.

  • @rofromoz1361
    @rofromoz1361 2 місяці тому +4

    What an amazing area of London i had never heard of before.. you are a great story and history teller.😂

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому

      That means a great deal to me. Thank you so much.

  • @michaelj3282
    @michaelj3282 2 місяці тому +4

    Brilliant as ever, I learn more from your 20 minute videos than any book. Thanks Rob.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому

      Thank you so much Michael.

  • @thevjoiners
    @thevjoiners Місяць тому +1

    Another great video - thanks Rob!
    And that Bob Hoskins interview was brilliant. Thanks for the link 👍

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you! Yes, he was great old Bob ;-)

  • @tracyfryer8153
    @tracyfryer8153 2 місяці тому +1

    Lots of gems again and what a transformed area that was perfect for filming years ago
    Thanks rob ❤

  • @clairbarnard9058
    @clairbarnard9058 2 місяці тому +4

    Best yet Rob. The quality of your videos is exceptional. I get so much pleasure from “visiting” the capital this way. Than you so very much x

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому

      That means a great deal to me Claire, thank you so much.

  • @simplysimon9868
    @simplysimon9868 2 місяці тому +1

    I worked on the Restaurants Sir Terence started all along Shad Thames. Great times!! Passing my driving test, ended up there driving around London before the rejuvenation so it was so good to see the transformation. Great video, Rob.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +1

      Nice comment, thanks Simon 😉

  • @paulseggie2664
    @paulseggie2664 2 місяці тому +2

    Thanks!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому

      Thank you so much Paul, I truly appreciate that. Stay well my friend and thanks again.

  • @jjwtj95
    @jjwtj95 2 місяці тому +13

    Great video! As a local resident who frequents these areas regularly, I know quite a bit of the history already, but this is wonderfully in depth with so many little touches that I haven’t noticed.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +1

      That's really kind of you to say! Many thanks ;-)

  • @lindasueanderson8024
    @lindasueanderson8024 2 місяці тому +2

    Thank you for reading directly from Dickens! This is a part of London I would explore far more if I ever get to visit again

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому

      Thank you; can’t beat a Dickens quote! 😉

  • @lenrichardson7349
    @lenrichardson7349 2 місяці тому +3

    When I worked at London Bridge, I would often take lunch time walks around the area which is rich in history and intresting sights are common. I've had a few pints in the Anchor Tap a fine pub which has resisted the urge to modernise thankfully. Thank you for this informative vid which has a ton of information. I'm now going in to see where else you have covered. Hopefully, Hay's Gallaria that much burnt building where I worked or the area around the old Marshalsea prison.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +1

      Thanks so much Len. I hope to cover Hay's Galleria at some point. I've covered the Marshalsea in a few videos (I think the Charles Dickens Christmas pubs features it)

  • @niklar55
    @niklar55 2 місяці тому +1

    Your video brought back some memories.
    Back in the 50's my father worked for ship supplies company, based in Mitre square, one of ''Jack the Ripper's'' haunts, and they supplied a most of the stuff that ships needed to stock up on before leaving the docks, from food to tools, spares, (and whisky for the Captain!)
    However the London Dockers were so aggressive in their Strikes and Blockades, that eventually ships would not even try to dock in London. They never knew IF they could get in to unload, whether they would be unloaded, how much stuff would ''fall off'' and be stolen, or when and if they would be able to leave.
    So eventually, they would dock in Amsterdam or Rotterdam, where they could unload or load without problems, and the goods would be shipped to London by road, and ferry.
    The dockers also refused containers, so Tilbury was opened, and that finally sealed the London Docks fate.
    I remember a Docker Shop Steward moaning on a tv news interview, ''We had closed shop, we had restrictive this, restricted that, and then they opened Tilbury, and now we are all out of work!'' Rather echoing the Fleet Street printers.
    That comes under the old adage of, ''You can screw some of the people.......but you cant screw *all* of the people *all* of the time!
    For me as a small boy it was an exciting place to visit with my dad, who pointed out the places of interest or disrepute! Climbing up the gangplanks of ships that had been unloaded was sometimes nerve wracking as they were very steep, bouncy, and it was a long way to the top.
    Apparently, Cable Street was a location where a lot of ladies provided dubious services!
    One story my dad told me, was that a young boy joined his company, and a gang of rather rough women who worked in the sail and tarpaulin making floor, grabbed him, took his clothes off, and did some very naughty things to him. Eventually, because he couldn't go anywhere in the warehouse without people making embarrassing comments, he left for another job elsewhere.
    The changes since I visited as a small boy are enormous, and rather shocking.
    .

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +1

      Very interesting comment, thank you

    • @niklar55
      @niklar55 2 місяці тому

      @@Robslondon
      Thank you for your video!

  • @carolynellis387
    @carolynellis387 2 місяці тому +1

    A really interesting part of London which still feels old in spite of its many incarnations, great video

  • @bubblebus1
    @bubblebus1 2 місяці тому +5

    I have walked through the area (since its gentrification) and admired the now restored buildings. I knew it must have a history, something you have now provided. Many thanks.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому

      Thank you, and thanks for watching. Much appreciated

  • @dodgycat476
    @dodgycat476 2 місяці тому +1

    I lived off Jamaica Road at the end of the 70's and use to explore the warehouses and building s when they were derelict. It's was fantastic time. It's been developed in to an amazing place and still a joy to visit. Thank you for the video really enjoyed learning about the history of the area.💙

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому

      Great comment dodgycat, thank you 😉

  • @Walter-wf8kd
    @Walter-wf8kd 2 місяці тому +2

    Thanks Rob. Nice show!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +1

      I really appreciate that Walter; many thanks indeed my friend. Stay well 😄

  • @dmcgrail
    @dmcgrail 2 місяці тому +1

    A wonderfully informative video. Really enjoyed the bit about Jacob island. I’ve lived here for nearly 5 years now and so it was wonderful to see the history of the area brought to life. Well done 👍🏼

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому

      You're very welcome! Thanks so much for the kind words.

  • @dougknight1720
    @dougknight1720 2 місяці тому +2

    Thanks Rob.
    Another great film of the great wharves and Warehouses. Very informative and interesting. I’ll be sure to check out the area when I’m
    Back next month. Cheers mate

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +1

      Thanks Doug- enjoy your visit ;-)

  • @simon_wolf_
    @simon_wolf_ 2 місяці тому +2

    Thank you for a brilliant video about this area. I was very fortunate to have lived on Mill Street for a couple of years in the early 90s when I was a student (the flat was owned by a surgeon at Guy’s who let his son and two of us live there for what was probably barely enough to cover the maintenance fee). I had no idea about much of the history of the area so this was fascinating.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +1

      Lovely comment Simon, thanks.

  • @PaulMcCaffreyfmac
    @PaulMcCaffreyfmac 2 місяці тому +2

    I wish I was a bit more mobile because there is always something to learn and something to love along the river's edge.
    ps - it has just occured to me that I have always been so mesmerised that I have never quite realised how brilliantly well put together your videos are. Great street views with appropriate street sign shots here and there and a perfectly placed occasional overview courtesy of a contemporary map (and here a film clip or still). Really engaging work. Thanks Rob.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +1

      Thanks so much Paul! And thanks for noticing 😉 I really enjoy that aspect of making them

  • @terencemiller6085
    @terencemiller6085 2 місяці тому +1

    Great video as always Rob, can't wait to walk the area myself.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому

      Thank you Terence- hope you make it there soon

  • @RockerMark
    @RockerMark 2 місяці тому +2

    Another fantastic video! As a Bermondsey boy, I have learnt a lot!

  • @mjc1970
    @mjc1970 Місяць тому +1

    What a great video. I live in Rotherhithe and wallk all the time this route. I will have this all in my head next time I am walking to London....

  • @MyWithnail
    @MyWithnail 2 місяці тому +2

    Excellent video. I used to live in East London from 1980 onwards before Docklands and other areas were 'improved'. We used to walk around these areas thinking of Dickens, etc. Nice to see that they've been preserved and reused but the price tags are somewhat obscene!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому

      Great comment, thank you- and thanks for the kind words.

  • @dave3124
    @dave3124 2 місяці тому +2

    As a teenager in the early 80s me & some friends discovered Shad Thames & visited it several times because it was such an eerie & fascinating place, like walking through a ghost town of Victorian London, I’m kinda sad it isn’t like that anymore

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому

      Lovely comment Dave, thank you

  • @contiflex
    @contiflex Місяць тому +1

    Very interesting video and information, thanks.

  • @homestead44
    @homestead44 2 місяці тому +1

    Brilliant rob , I was born in paddington so Southwark was way to far for me,but when I did the knowledge in the 90's I discovered the area & loved it , still to this day I believe it's London's most fascinating borough 🇬🇧

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +1

      Thank so much homestead, I discovered it on The Knowledge too…. Be lucky 😉

  • @esterbengoa6077
    @esterbengoa6077 2 місяці тому +2

    I love your videos. I write down all the places you describe and, when I go to London, I do my little Robslondon pilgrimage. Thank you!!❤❤❤❤❤❤

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +2

      Bless you Ester, that’s such a lovely comment ☺️ Many thanks indeed, it means a lot to me. Stay well.

  • @thewrecker3140
    @thewrecker3140 2 місяці тому +2

    Engrossing from start to finish. Top work rob

  • @keithvalentine3290
    @keithvalentine3290 2 місяці тому +2

    Really good film Rob. Brought back many memories of my dad and grandad who did their printing apprenticeships in the area.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому

      Lovely comment Keith, thank you.

  • @keithfowler2013
    @keithfowler2013 2 місяці тому +2

    I forgot to say,thanks for another great video.👍

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +1

      It’s a pleasure Keith.

  • @user-vu7rv1xf1l
    @user-vu7rv1xf1l 2 місяці тому +5

    I never knew Bullseye died until now, gutted. I used to watch that film a lot as a kid, I was obsessed when English Bull Terriers as a kid thanks to this film, & had several toy Bullseye, including a soft toy dog with that name. Even now, I have a real dog, a Staffordshire Bull Terrier, who is completely white, except for a black patch on one eye. People often mention Bullseye when they see her. Gutted he died in such am unpleasant way. I know its a story, but he was the dog that first made me love dogs, particularly bull terriers.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому

      As someone who loves dogs very much too, I know what you mean.... just think of the musical version instead ;-)

    • @donnasmyth45
      @donnasmyth45 2 місяці тому

      I didn't know Bullseye died either 😢

  • @paulmerryman
    @paulmerryman 2 місяці тому +1

    Many thanks for this Rob. I do love looking back at London's history. Delayed watch, as just back off holiday 👍

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +1

      Much appreciated Paul, thanks! Good to see you 😉

  • @Expatexperience64
    @Expatexperience64 Місяць тому +1

    This was brilliant! Thanks.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому

      Thank you! And thanks for watching.

  • @martindewsnap
    @martindewsnap 2 місяці тому +1

    Brilliant. I have a day off work on Saturday so I shall be paying this area a visit! Thanks.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +1

      Thanks Martin! Enjoy ;-)

  • @blacksunshine7485
    @blacksunshine7485 2 місяці тому +3

    Very well researched and presented

  • @ronnyskaar3737
    @ronnyskaar3737 2 місяці тому

    Another well made, enjoyable, interesting video. I visited Jacob's Island last year after beer-tasting in Bermondsey. Takk!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +1

      You’re a star Ronny 🤩 thank you so much for your kind support my friend, hope you’re keeping well.

  • @drscopeify
    @drscopeify 2 місяці тому +1

    Fantastic video as always! I love the bridges spanning between the buildings, I can see why so many movies were shot there.

  • @bryan3550
    @bryan3550 2 місяці тому +1

    Lovely work, Rob!
    Fantastic that such an atmospheric little area has survived.
    No wonder it's been used in so many film productions!
    Thanks, as ever, for sharing Your Knowledge 😉
    🙃

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому

      Thanks so much Bryan 😉

  • @antewaso8876
    @antewaso8876 Місяць тому +1

    Thank you!!🌊🐎♥

  • @annereidy7981
    @annereidy7981 2 місяці тому +2

    So much life lived here and how well you give that history its life Rob, wonderful as usual, thank you !

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 місяці тому +1

      Thank you so much Anne 🤩 Hope you’re keeping well