8 things to know before you buy a Rowing Boat
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- Опубліковано 9 сер 2010
- Expert coach Steve Walker, founder of Ahoy-Boats ahoy-boats.com & of Sculling Academy, scullingacademy.com/ gives 10 minute introduction to different types of rowing & sculling boats. Steve has over 50 years rowing and sculling experience and explains in simple terms why boats are different shapes and the benefits of one type over another. So whether you are a private individual or a school or club, a racer or a casual rower you will find this information helpful if you are considering buying a new or used rowing / sculling boat / skiff. Some of these boats are available from ahoy-boats.biz and some are no longer available because this video was made a long time ago.
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I learnt to scull in a racing boat, didn’t find it too hard after getting wet a couple of times.
Yes and I have taught people to scull in racing boats. But you need to be taught well if you are to scull without fear. Check out my first lessons in ScullingAcademy.com
Hey I'm in middle school and today I won my first regatta in a mixed quad
Well done Nick. Mixed racing and you're only in middle school! You lucky guy. I had to wait till my sixties before I got to race mixed.
I come back here again and again so many times ^_^ Thank you for sharing
Thanks again!
Hey I really love your site thanks for posting. I'm new to rowing and found your video very informative. Therefore, I subbed. I hope to see more of your videos
Great overview Stephen. I was looking for an explanation of the differences between the normal racing hull I learned on and an "open water" style hull and this video provided exactly the information I needed. I didn't even realize there were so many options in the spectrum. Thank you very much for putting this together and sharing.
Check out the Nordic Explorer, ahoy-boats.biz/nordic
Great video Steve. Really appreciate the differences you pointed out.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you Mr. Walker, love that EDON TS515 training scull, on your mailing list now, look forward to hearing about it. Best of luck!
Buy one. ;-)
Thank you for taking the time to help us new comers.
Well Stan, everybody has to start somewhere. Better to start well.
Thank you for this information! I’m moving to a lakefront property and so want a “Yole” ….desperately!!! Thank you so much!!!!
Steve Walker inspires me.
very useful information! thanks
Excellent video. In a couple of years I will retire, and am looking forward to taking up rowing as a summertime activity. Thank you for posting such an educational video.
Retired yet? I am, love it, especially the rowing bit of it!
Hi Stephen,
it´s quite interesting this video as back in the 90´s when i start on a rowing club (Lisbon - Portugal) i don´t recall having this "school boats". Back then the coach just through me into a racing boat and i had to start from there. We did have the yole but 4 pax and 8 pax.
Thank you for the uploading as i have been out of rowing from several years and i plan to come back soon ( with the family) so this has given me a new light.
Coaches have to use the equipment they have been given. I have taught young men to scull in fine boats and if you have a good coach this can be done. But requires good teaching, see scullingacademy.com. But in the process of teaching you have to eliminate as many factors as possible to make it easy and the issue of balancing a boat is one of those elements that makes learning difficult. Some people will never even get into a boat if they perceive that it is unstable.
Esses barcos de instrução nos "nossos" clubes eram só mesmo esses que identificou. Ainda apareceram as yoletes em 4x e 8x mas o yole para aprender no tejo chega e sobra. Para os barcos de competição, no clube onde estava normalmente existiam estágios em rio que pela calma das aguas permitia melhor aprendizagem.
The standard span from the centre of one pin to the other is 160cm. In
racing boats this is adjustable and in some recreational boats too. The
smaller you are the tighter you would expect the span to be set but this
would toughen the gearing unless you also reduce the overall length of the
oars (sculls) and reduce the inboard length in proportion to the outboard
length. This is a whole can of worms that you can open up!
The Yole comes in 3 versions, the Club, the Class and the Custom. Prices vary accordingly. PLease go to the Ahoy-Boats web site and check out the prices there. There is a PRICES tab at the top of every page.
Nice jacket Stephen..;-)
Nice jumper
Love the coat!
Thanks. Made in France and purchased in France. It spoke to me and I had to buy it.
Great video! Beautiful boats. I'm interested in buying one to work-out and to go fishing while I'm at it and possibly bring a friend along. I like all those 4 you've just demonstrated. If only I had the money to buy all 4! Ha! I wonder if I can add a small engine to the 2 seater boat on the far left. I'm sure that would need a battery and would increase the drag.
I have the ideal boat for you, the Nordic Explorer, ahoy-boats.biz/nordic/ a double scull from which you can fish. The designer, Charlie Broughton, is a fisherman and designed the boat with this in mind. He has some great advice that I can pass onto you if you contact me via the web site. And you can fit an outboard motor to it if you invest in the transom protection option when you buy.
Hello Stephen, it was a treat to watch your video. Thanks. Just wondering, for those of us stuck in the USA, whether you know of an equivalent to your fabulous TS515 Training Scull? I am about to relocate to NW Connecticut--lots of lakes, and a few stretches of river without rapids. Looking forward to trying a new sport! Best wishes, Janet
Thank you Janet. The TS515 is available in America but not through Ahoy-Boats. (Try searching with USA in the search field.) However, I am able to sell you Nordic Explorer. Check it out: ahoy-boats.biz/nordic/ .
Thank you for this informative video. I am interested in coastal rowing and wonder if you could comment on the relative merits of the Liteboat lite sport+ and the Eurodiffusion x light or yole 18. I am 65 years old and weigh 110 lbs. Thanks in advance, Susan
Sorry for delay in reply. I don't use social media for quick responses. I use email. I don't like to comment on boats that I don't represent. I would hate it if one of my competitors were to slate a boat that I sell. So unprofessional. One thing to consider that may or may not be relevant is where you are going to keep the boat and will it fit. This is why the Yole and the Nordic Explorer, which are both doubles that may be used as singles, are only about 4.8m long so that they will fit in the average garage. It's not all about the boat's performance on the water, unless you are racing of course Susan. I am still racing at 68. Why not? In fact I just rowed the entire length of Loch Ness in a Nordic Explorer ahoy-boats.biz/nordic/loch-ness-row-all/
you said the oarlocks are all spaced the same from centerline? What is that distance and how does that effect leverage, assuming the same oarlength and waterline angles?
How much is the 4WD rowing boat- the yhull???
Will u show us how you attach the seat and outrig?
Thank you.
Actually it is a Yole. You can buy at the Ahoy-Boats web site. Check it out.
where do I get the white boat?
So what is the third boat from the left--the white boat between the narrow racing boat and the Turbo Skiff? And what type of rowing is it most suited for? And same question for the Turbo Skiff? tks.
The white boat with the stabilisers is a TS515 Training Scull www.ahoy-boats.biz and it is the best boat for teaching sculling. It provides a moderate balance challenge with the added security from the stabilisers. And because of its length and slimness if goes fast so that you get the thrill that I experience every stroke from my racing boat when you get it tight and take a good stroke. It provides great encouragement to beginners. The Turboskiff is suitable for use on the sea in sheltered situations because it has more freeboard.
when buying a sculling boat, should I consider my height? how to choose it?
+liliana basileWhen buying a boat it is more important to consider your weight than your height. The boat should have the appropriate shape and volume to support your weight and to get the most speed out of the hull for a crew of that weight. So always check how many molds your boat builder has. If on one then that is no good. Your height, or lack of it, can be catered for by adjusting the rigging.
Could you tell me the make of the red fine single in this video please
It was made in China by Flying Eagle. It was designed by the great German naval architect, Klaus Filter. His designs are manufactured by lots of different boat builders. I currently scull in the successor to that red boat, a Wintech, also designed by Klaus, and it is even better.
Please go to the Ahoy-Boats web site and click on the Contact tab in the top right corner. Either telephone me or fill in the form, stating your requirements and submit it.
Hi Stephen! I have been looking for a sculling boat that is stable and good for lakes and oceans. The white boat on the far left you called a yull?? Is that the type of boat or the brand? Where can I purchase a boat like this? Thank you!
Hi Lindsey, that is an old video and I no longer sell the Yole. But I do sell the Nordic Explorer worldwide. Check it out at: ahoy-boats.biz/nordic
I'm interested in the yhall. Where do I get one?
How much can cost a rowing boat
Hello, I'm interested in a slide seat rowing boat. I already tried rowing my canoe and enjoyed it but would like to take the next step. I also would like a boat that can handle rough water, like a bay. Here is my problem. Of the few companies I've found that sell a boat like I would like the prices are shocking. Any advice on where I might look? I'm in the USA.
Have you looked at the Nordic Explorer? ahoy-boats.biz/nordic/explorer/ I just had a customer send me a message saying that the Nordic Explorer was "Perfect - the best bar none". We export them all over the world. As for prices, this is the difference between rowing and canoeing. Canoes do not have to be built to take the stresses that a sculling boat has to take. Canoes are basically just a shell with a seat inside. Rowing and sculling boats are pieces of ultra-lightweight engineering that float.
@@StephenWalkerAhoy-BoatsI did find that link, see the boat which is a beauty, some other ahoy boats I can not find the info or prices. this boat is a bit expensive for me, especially as options add up.
For me the whole point of a boat is that you can travel on water but you stay DRY. If you're going to be getting wet then you might as well just swim and then you don't need ANY boat! It seems like people are wanting to go as fast as possible and are thus trying to get off the water as quickly as possible. I would prefer a slow, wide boat that allows me to be on the water for a long time while being dry, comfortable and stable. Can relax and go fishing or whatever...
I have the ideal boat for you then. The Nordic Explorer. ahoy-boats.biz/nordic/explorer/
Does anybody know what brand of boat the red racing scull is?
It's a Flying Eagle, designed by Klaus Filter. This boat is a predecessor to Wintech. Have a look here wintechracing.com/team/john-xiong/
8 things to know before you buy a Rowing Boat
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Expert coach Steve Walker, founder of Ahoy-Boats, gives 10 minute introduction to different types of rowing & sculling boats. Steve has over 40 years rowing and sculling experience and explains in...
Steven, who makes the widest boat in this video?
That boat is a Yole Custom and it was made by VirusBoats in France since 1993. They made a lot of them. It was very popular. I rowed around Belle Ile in one! I have a used 2005 one available at the time of writing, www.ahoy-boats.biz/rowing-boats-for-sale.html. I sold a 2004 model for £2,150. Make an offer, only if you are in the UK.
So your telling me to buy a TS515, got it... purchase made
I am a rower and I personally thought that the comment about which boat to learn in was inaccurate at least if your planning to race at least because the floats can cause people to form bad habits in terms of set relying on those floats to set the boat for them also they're are also many different types of boats to fit a different amount of people such as singles, doubles, pairs, fours, quads, and eights he also failed to mention the rowing type he only mention sculling which admittedly is the best for minimal crews because sweeping or having only one very large oar requires at least two people neither did he mention boat sizing in the video he only did a cursory look on the different type of boats and I disagree with the statement you can't learn to skull in a racing shell I myself learned to skull in a racing shell and many of my teammates and friends have learned to skull in a racing shell he spent most of the video gushing about the yole which I agree with most of his points about the yole it's a good boat to have fun in. but one of the only pieces of critical information he said was material choice and boat type which great something actually good to consider but he left out something that's arguably more important than that which again is boat sizing
why am I ranting on a decade old video oof
but seriously him saying you can't learn in a racing shell annoyed the hell out of me it felt like he was saying you had to get another really expensive boat before you got into racing the skiff is really good at sight seeing on rivers but is completely outclassed by the actual racing shell if your looking to train or learn
Hi no_name, Thanks for mentioning all these valid points. I have taught people to scull in fine boats. So I know it is possible. The stabilisers on the TS515 can lure you into a dependency on them so I agree that you should dispense with them as soon as you feel able. However, they do help reduce fear for first timers and fear inhibits learning. The Yole was an incredibly successful design much appreciated by people who were not aiming to race and especially those with open water only to row on. Bear in mind that 10 years ago, early in my UA-cam life, I was only allowed to make videos with a maximum length of 10 minutes. But if you want a later treatise on my choice of racing boat have a look at ua-cam.com/video/xcF-LiEANYM/v-deo.html in which I have won at Henley Masters and the World Masters regattas.
@@StephenWalkerAhoy-Boatsthank you for replying I don't really care about a decade old video and I greatly respect someone who took the time to create a buyer's guide for such a niche market a lot of that comment was annoyed ranting but my only real criticism is not including boat sizing other than that I do agree with your points a trial by fire way of learning is not comfortable for most people and I do understand that aspect of it and all the other criticism was just angry nit-picking again I have a huge amount of respect for people introducing people into this sport and there's no rational reason for me to get so heated on a decade old video made with the intention of helping people
(Edit):It's really cool to see someone still be active in the comments on such an old video I fully expected my rant to never be seen it's very nice to see someone still put pride in their early work
i NEED A SEAT FOR MY SCULLING BOAT - CAN YOU RECOMMEND A PLACE TO GET AN ECONOMICAL ONE?
+Lisa Giulianelli Try Eric Sims at www.esrowingservices.co.uk
Hi Stephen. Can I buy one of these Yoal's ? in America. Thank you
Not through me Gary. The firm that made them went into receivership in 2013 and I stopped dealing with them. But I do now sell the Nordic Explorer into America, ahoy-boats.biz/nordic/ in fact we ship worldwide. And I just rowed the entire length of Loch Ness in one, see all the action here: ahoy-boats.biz/nordic/loch-ness-row-all/
Excellent video, Mr Walker. I'm getting back into rowing after 25 years away - I'd rowed in eights and fours at university in the US.
I'm interested in getting a single, something similar to the racing scull you show. The last time I rowed was an Empacher (sp?), and that was sweet! What would you recommend I look at that similar but less dear? I'm 6'2 and 245, and would have access to a garage to store it.
Wintech make a wide range of sizes of hull. That is very important. Stampfli, for example, only have one hull shape and they cut it down for small people. That's not ideal.
Check out the Ahoy-Boats web site. And hopefully now, if I've done my jb right, you might find links, as annotations, on the video above. Check them out.
i was joking, nothing was personal ofcourse, but thanks a lot;) i heard of wintech boats and respect your work!
Check out my recent video "My WinTech Racing Boat" and you will discover that there are other fast boats too. And remember that the French call them Empa-cher, cher meaning expensive or dear! I recently heard of a young man who was going well in a WinTech and decided to invest in one of these expensive boats but he didn't go any faster and sadly he gave up the sport altogether! Not what we want to encourage.
Anyway I don't sell racing boats, I sell entry-level boats such as those shown above.
Where I can buy large amount of those boats does anyone knows a place the pat sell those?
Somewhere I read that well used eight-year-old racing boats were shot. Do you agree?
+jockellis That depends on a lot of factors. The boat make, the method of manufacture, the size of boat, the material used to make the boat, whatever you mean by well used, how well it has been maintained etc. But I sold one of my previous boats to somebody else in my club 15 years ago and it is still going strong.
+Stephen Walker thanks, that's nice to know since the price seems to stay pretty high.
tip no.2 gotta know it's an Empacher boat...
question...i'm going to buy one in 2.5 years when i retire...i have a dog who swims and is around 50 pounds...can he sit in the front of the white boat?
+Patricia Bird Absolutely. Dogs love boats! X
+Stephen Walker when you told someone to take weight into consideration, i was worried he would be too big...glad to hear this...thanks!
Ahh see i was going to buy a single scull and ended up with that fat one.
sorry, the blue and white boat
This is an old video. I do not sell the Yole any more. I sell the Nordic Explorer. ahoy-boats.biz/nordic
Polyethylene isn't worth its weight at any bargain price. Buy better or build from wood and from scratch. Too much plastic already afloat.