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Thinkers Forum??? Thinker, are you serious? Do you even know what think means? John Mearsheimer: If I Were in Beijing, US Would Already Be Kicked Out of Asia Does John Mearsheimer know that this title means that he knows that China is different from himself and the West, thinks differently, and acts differently? Simply put, does John Mearsheimer know that John Mearsheimer doesn't know China? Oh, my DOG, can John Mearsheimer read English? Johnny boy, just in case that you care to know why China hasn't kicked the US out of Asia. The only answer is that it would be easier for the Chinese to slaughter, cook, and eat the Americans in Asia.
John is talking nonsense...why should China behave the same as the Americans in the imperialistic sense? We know from history, Americans practiced slavery and conducted genocide on the Native Indians whereas China never got involved in such misdeeds! By building Great Wall to protect itself, China had no barbaric behavior in expanding itself outward!!!
@@dominicwong7613 Fk the ‘other’ Gulf states (they are not organically self sustainable: economic zones) Venezuela👍🏽; Venezuela Mexico combo would be killer; If common sense policy is leveraged within South America it’d become an Rising Tiger;
I’m from Malaysia. China has traded with us for two thousand years, but never once China invaded us or colonized us. When China wanted something they traded with us. In 1511, the Portuguese came, in 1642 the Dutch came, in 1786 the British came, we were colonized by each, one after another. We often hear the West say: “Once China becomes the biggest power in the world, we would be colonized or imperialized, our resources looted, our treasures raided, we have to follow what they say, because we did those things when we were powerful, so they would do the same”. The fact is, China was as poor as India in 1980s. Since 1990, it has started to grow and turned to a superpower today, without dropping a single bomb in a foreign country. Never before in history of mankind, from the Athenian, to the Roman Empire, to the Mongolian Empire, to the Ottoman Empire, to the British Empire, to Nazi German and Imperial Japan, to the American Empire, has a superpower risen without any bloodshed, wars, slavery & colonization of other countries. This is a REAL civilization, and this is something that Western leaders and scholars will never understand.
I have watched many vedioes of John talking about China and US relationship. I found the biggest problem of him is that he always think about China based on American point of view. A typical example of an Chinese expert knowing nothing about China.
and because he's an american and america is still way more powerful than anyone else he believes in a world where the might is right wait until the US isn't so mighty anymore, then they'd be begging for alturism and mutual cooperation
john thinks china sees what the united states is doing in the world and thinks to itself the united states is doing so well for itself with it's global hegemony business that let's have a piece of that as well when we're number one. why would china see a declining united states and go yes let's also shoot ourselves in the foot.
All you need to know is , He’s a biased retired American military man who only rooting for the West to never lose it’s Premier position in the World. Only time will tell if the American Empire will collapse not from external entities but rather from within! After all how long will 50 states hold together when they only get to choose from 2 parties to represent them?
@@sewinvicta9274 Why do national security, the balance of power, geopolitics, regional hegemony, cultural competitiveness, and so on have to be built on the principles of zero-sum, beggar-thy-neighbor, the dog in the manger, violence, and demonizing? Why can't the world and humanity coexist peacefully, and develop, cooperate, and benefit mutually? Is the West mentally sick and culturally evil?
@@sewinvicta9274there are comonaluties, but not in all those areas. China is not going to make a military alliance to threathen the us, they are gonna trade with the us allies, to the point where they wouldnt help the us in a war since it would be economic suicide. Strategic co-dependence is a much more stable nash-equilibrium than an entangled hard power based strategy
When US was like China today, it already declared on Spain and overtaking territories like Puerto Rico, Philippines, etc as colonies. And also the brutality and oppression used to suppression the rebellions or opposition to its hegemony. Too bad, China still hasn't done anything similar but promotes Win-Win cooperations and trades. Perhaps that's why US accused China for not being Like-Minded as expected. In fact, that couldn't be more true. China may be assertive today but certainly not aggressive as many western media wish to depict through misinformation, slandering and disseminating alternate facts as the realty nowadays.
With the US Congress legislate a $1.6 billion dollars propaganda fund on the way, we can only expect to get more negative news, fake news, and misinformation on China.
Obviously either you are stupid or not keeping up with current events. China illegally occupied islands in the West Philippines Sea. It has an ongoing confrontation with India in the Kashmir. China subjugated the Mongolians, the Tibetans, and the Ueghurs. It is intimidating and trying to annex Taiwan. China has problems with islands in the South China that belongs to Vietnam.
Forget about Chinese history, it's absolutely irrelevant. Today's China = rule of Marxistic, Leninistic communists = brutal violance and aggression and tens of millions of killed in power pursuing.
I DO NOT agree with what prof said at the beginning of video - protecting economic and political interest ! China has no military bases around the world and they don't intend to do what the US has done ie. having 800 ++ military bases around planet earth and using hegemonic tactics to grow the economic and politic interest. In fact China has shown the US you can grow your economic and progress a country towards modernization by just doing trading with good innovation WITHOUT USING HEGEMONIC or MILITARIES BASES AROUND THE WORLD ! Shame on the US !!
@albertcadgame8314 keep in mind this prof are am-rican blood in their bodies, of course it's very Clear what is on their minds is always War. and I agree with you. this am-rican prof is useless.
Mr. Mearsheimer’s limitation is that he is an American & thinks like one & can’t fathom that other cultures don’t think at all like Americans & understand that the American way of doing things is destructive & doomed to failure.
That is also the trouble of any American neocon who wants to push China into a corner, not knowing that would burn the whole world in a nuclear confrontation! Are the Americans capable to withstand nuclear fallout???
He is intellectually dishonest. The fact that he frames the US as a "regional hegemon" when the US is involved in or directly instigated in the going ons in Ukraine, Libya, Taiwan, Philippines is evidence that he is a liar. China is a threat to US global hegemony, he wants to maintain that status quo, that's why he strongly criticises US involvement in Ukraine and wants the US to focus all its attention in China
@@brainwashington1332 Exactly agreeing to your point...John is the diehard neocon who wants all other nations to cater to US interests because America is the only superpower! In his mind, he wants every other nation dead and only US survives in this globe!!!
@@suziez3410 All US politicians behave just like John who wants American total domination and the only bully in this world! Past misdeeds such as slavery and genocide of Native Americans provide evidence to validate this fact!!!!
A major mistake Mearsheimer makes is to think that Ukraine decided to invade the Kursk district, America makes all the mistakes, they do not care about Ukraine's losses.
cos he is careful to be in line with uS rhectoric when uS create conflicts with their perceived enemies . Reverse the cause n effect ie portray their adversaries and not uS as the threat to regional peace n stability and the troublemaker who provokes the conflict with them He is no jeffrey sach who will exposed uS hypocrisy.
Exactly 👍 and Marcos sold all the beautiful ladies of the Philippinos to the U.S. military service personnel in the form of providing military bases in the Philippines. Balless Marcos 😅
Duarte seemed to work in Philippines own interests. Marcos in just his own interests. Dollars speaking, I presume! The US might think it's cheap to buy the Philippines for, let's say $1B.
Again you think China want or need to be like the US to roam all over the world because it’s a regional power. This assumption is wrong. China has her own way and she is not like the US because she can clearly see that USA is wrong doing these things. 🎋
@@ffbeexaid4509who ie ‘. We ‘ here ? Formosa is a part of China and always has been. China will , by negotiation re absorb Taiwan.it is the Chinese way. The American way is an unevolved and Primitive method as a way of dominating others. China never thinks of that because its methods are about cooperation not competition.
John .... please don't forget that historically, US-UN had fought China 3 times and lost 3 times... 1) China Civil War ... 2) Korean Civil War ... 3) Vietnam Civil War.
China Civil war...did the US send American soldiers? Korean Civil War, China fought Korea? Or Koreans fight Koreans? Vietnam...did China fight America in Vietnam? So China meddled in Korea and Vietnam?
@@martinvanburen4578 In the Chinese Civil War, the Kuomintang regime supported by the US government was defeated and retreated to the small island of Taiwan. The Korean War is called the forgotten war by Americans. This is a bad experience that the US military is reluctant to recall. In the Vietnam War, the Chinese government did not allow the US military to enter the 17th parallel north, and the US military could not completely wipe out the North Vietnamese army. The above may be the historical knowledge you have never learned in American textbooks
@@martinvanburen4578 when china lacked technology, they relied on the numbers and bravery of the people...... in korean war, u.s lost 36000, china between 180000 to 400000....... today china still repatriating the remains of people's volunteer army back home for burial...
In a way you are so right !! Becos if he is from China then the whole world will be chaotic ! More wars when people like prof here, making or suggesting foreign policies for their govt.
He knows full well. He is indirectly informing that those in charge of the empire are mostly in his age group and their decision very much driven by the glorious past. Besides Mr. Mearsheimer internationally playing the political correctness strategy. Otherwise he would be removed.
Mearsheimer projects. He is thinks that just because he like chocolate, everybody else likes chocolate too. He should ask himself why the huge and powerful fleet led by Zheng He in 1405 AD sailed to Africa and yet never conquered any small African chiefdom.
In general Chinese mindset, when you die there is no better place than the town you were born. To die in foreign land was one of worse curse for an average Chinese person. Therefore, colonising a foreign land was never their logic thinking, because every Chinese wants to go home when they are old.
John Mearsheimer is way too obsessed with hegemony ,but Chinese experienced hegemony in Mongol dynasty ,And the story is about conquer and brutal rule like British empire .No interest repeat that story again
Yes... Noticed they refrained from going to other continents. Demanding Africa be like China is hegemony. That is what the US wants. It wants the entire world to be like the US and serve their interests which is why we interfere with every single country that does something we don't like.
Based on the DNA, it is not going to, the empires involved in the Thucydides Traps, look at what are the predominant characteristics in the DNA makeup.
While Mearsheimer is much more astute that the average Western analyst/thinker, he still makes the same fundamental mistake by viewing China from the perspective of America and assuming that what the US wants is what China wants. On this, Martin Jacques has the better take: to understand China, you need to view China from its own perspective. Mearsheimer himself states that if he were in China's position, he would already have kicked the US out of Asia. But China didn't do this, not yet at least. Does Mearsheimer not wonder why? This fact alone is enough to make one wonder that perhaps China is different from the US, and it is strange that Mearsheimer didn't catch on to it.
M. thinks that it is inevitable that also China needs a security space, and the best way is to become a regional hegemony to be safe against threats. Just think of current US threats: China needs to be able to defend itself and to deter potential enemies, even without attacking or colonizing anybody. I'd like to remind what happened last time China was weak, in the 1930's. Power politics is an unfortunate reality.
I see the Chinese dismiss American academics as if America does not have close to 70 plus years of accomplished academics in politics and military history. America is a modern state and became modernized before China.
While I do agree with John on many things, I disagree with his view on China. The problem is that he based on his review of China when it becomes a superpower as if China will do the same thing as US does. He is completely wrong. The 5000 years of Chinese civilization and modern history of China has already proven China is nothing like the US. The rise of China in the last 40 year shows a Country can become a world super power without bloodshed. John's analogy of what China will do is faulty and that is the precise problem with the US government. All the actions taken by the US is causing China to react economically and militarily.
And to think there are so many professors like him in the US are so illiterate and superficial on foreign affairs. RichardDWolff said it himself, during his formation he went through 3 ivy league universities and not a single one had literate professors on Marxist economics. It was extirpated during mcartianism, (the professors were afraid of being fired and did not talk about the subject.) This led to an "cleaned" academy where "liberal economics" were rebranded as "economics". Today they do not understand Marxist economics and fight strawman versions of it. I imagine they did this on other areas or at least worked their bias heavily in their teachings, history might be another field affected... This culture reflects on the tools and language they have available to describe the world. They still see it in a colon-nizer zero-sum game way because they were taught to see it like that. They concentrate on geopolitical analisys and fail in history context...
@@ysw8291 you think, can you? This is Thinkers Forum??? Thinker, are they serious? Do you even know what think means? John Mearsheimer: If I Were in Beijing, US Would Already Be Kicked Out of Asia Does John Mearsheimer know that this title means that he knows that China is different from himself and the West, thinks differently, and acts differently? Simply put, does John Mearsheimer know that John Mearsheimer doesn't know China? Oh, my DOG, can John Mearsheimer read English? Johnny boy, just in case that you care to know why China hasn't kicked the US out of Asia. The only answer is that it would be easier for the Chinese to slaughter, cook, and eat the Americans in Asia.
you have the view of a child, the world order and hegemony is dictated by force. You live in the animal kingdom only the most deadly dictate the laws and rules of the world. You live on Earth not in Heaven.
Sir, strategic dishonesty (ambiguity) and double-speak are exclusively Western culture. They are unacceptable in the rest of the world. The US saying one thing and doing the opposite in Taiwan, in Palestine and in Ukraine.
U.S. attempt to maintain its hegemony will be the cause of its downfall. Trying to maintain hundreds of military bases abroad is sapping its economic resources. It's military failure in Vietnam, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, and its proxy war in Ukraine has shown its weakness. It is already highly indebted (33.5T) and can no longer pay it debt. It has been de-industrialized. And so, other countries are abandoning the U.S. dollar as a reserve and trade currency. It's just matter of time before the U.S. economy collapses and social unrest in the U.S. erupts.
Chinese Emperor‘s worse nightmare, the starvation of his people when there aren‘t enough food. Extra citizens means extra mouth to feed, means extra problems for Emperor. 😁 Modern day Emperor Xi will never interest to spend his entire life looking for food for his people. Philipinos can stay where they are.
China is following US & Russia's mistakes when China was still a non Superpower. US is now reacting & together w other countries.Russia wants to revive Warsaw pact again,Ukraine is an example.
Well, then we are glad that mersheimer is not in Beijing dictating the politics of China. Merhsiemer despite all his castigation of the current UAS foreign policies is very much a hegemonic style thinker who based his "realism" on western colonial mindset of power politics. He is very much a UAS hegemonist, he just disagree with how the UAS is doing it. China, as a culture and a society, has long since understood this kind of childish, (yes very childish) way of thinking will only lead to a collapse sooner or later because you will spend way too much energy and resources trying to maintain an empire, so they don't do it.
I really don’t respect such so called professor… with such low ethics, he doesn’t qualify as a professor to teach anyone… I m so sad such person has such big influence in US - this is one of the rotten signs in US…👎👎👎👎👎
@@ivycheng7248 you have the view of a child, the world order and hegemony is dictated by force. You live in the animal kingdom only the most deadly dictate the laws and rules of the world. You live on Earth not in Heaven.
Agree 100% that Mearsheimer is a hawk. He is different from the idiots in the White House, Congress and Senate in that he is more of a realist and sees world geopolitics more clearly.
It's not like China can avoid it. Look at trade war and tech war. Plus, terror groups that are obviously foreign funded are already attacking Chinese in Pakistan, and Myanmar. It's not like China can avoid war just because it doesn't want to fight it.
In my opinion, the reason why NATO wants expansion is for the US Military Industrial Complex to sell more weapons. If it is an open-door policy, why did it not admit Russia when they said they would like to join? Currently, such a war without Western lives being expended and selling a lot more weapons fits the West’s position.
It is the rare earth minerals and energy resources that NATO want because they can’t compete economically with China. They want to disrupt trade lines and militarise an area that can help limit Russia and help control West Asia’s oil (Middle East) with Izreals help. No surprise that Zelensky is from the same tribe.
His whole theory has so many holes to the point that even a gust of wind from changing world geopolitics stracture gently touching its words, it falls apart
This man JM is very hawkish towards China. He would want Russia to Team up with Usa to contain China. Also he supports usa military intervention on Taiwan.
He is NOT hawkish towards China, he is a downright China Hater and a racist towards Chinese people, because only a racist would hate China so much by risking a war with China even it could mean the world war 3.
Mearsheimer is wrong on several points here. 1. It isn't just China that wants to see Russia prevail in the Ukraine war. The Global-Majority countries, around 140 countries, would like to see Russia win the war, and enforce Ukraine neutrality. The reason is fairly straightforward, and Mearsheimer himself knows this and has said so many times; Russia is a nuclear power, and sees NATO-encroachment, especially into Ukraine as an existential issue. As such, a Russian defeat (even a partial defeat) that ends with NATO membership for Ukraine would mean the use of tactical nuclear weapons. This is something most sane countries in the World would NOT want to see. Only some members in the US Administration/think-tanks (mostly the Neo-cons) and some deranged people in the Baltics, Poland, the UK and of course the neo-Nazis in Ukraine would push that far. So Mearsheimer is economical with the truth on this. 2. That China wants to change the status-quo and the US wants/Likes to maintain the Status-quo. The actions of the US completely destroy Mearsheimer's point here. The US has taken a wide range of military actions in Asia, with AUKUS, the QUAD, floating the notion of NATO-in-Asia through its Japanese vassal and Stoltenberg. These are all designed to exert military pressure on China, and strengthening the 1st and 2nd Island chains to contain China. This is anything but maintaining the Status-quo. China's response is as expected. A stengthening of its naval and air-power in the East China Sea and the South China Sea. The Chinese have long understood, its maritime routes are easily susceptible to blockade by the US. This is a stranglehold over Chinese trade and the flow of raw-materials, energy and goods to-and-fro China. Any nation, if capable, will not allow this to persist. Hence Chinese military buildup, including construction of outposts in the SCS. The US has since ratcheted-up further by signing military agreements with the Philippines and moved medium-range Typhon missiles there. This is a familiar US tactic, basing medium-range missiles in Turkiye, Romania during the Cold-war. It is a provocation. Status-quo? Mearsheimer is again economical with the truth. The reality simply doesn't support his argument. Also, he mentioned Pelosi's visit. A sitting Majority-Leader of Congress visiting Taiwan is blatant provocation and gives encouragement to separatists on the Island. It should also be noted that China eroding the Taiwan airspace is AFTER Pelosi's visit. Prior to that, China has tacitly respected the mid-line in the Taiwan Strait and not (or rarely) have its military vessels cross that mid-line. The US destroyed that equilibrium. 3. The US will come to military aid of Taiwan, should China militarily reclaim the Island. This is a selective reading of US intentions. The Ukraine situation provides the clearest indication of US willingness to engage directly in a war with a peer-great-power. Again, Mearsheimer is very aware of this, but chooses to vary his prognosis on the Taiwan case viz-a-viz UKraine. For the record, the US has poured $160billion into Ukraine, mostly in arms. The US has been training Ukrainian troops since before 2014. The CIA has been operating in Ukraine (a dozen bases there) for 15 years of more. It has encouraged European NATO allies to send 'mercenaries' to supporting Ukraine. It provides full ISR support for Ukraine to strike at Russia and Russian troops movements. BUT, the US has not intervened itself in Ukraine. One can expect the same playbook should a crisis arise in Taiwan. Note that it is far more difficult for the US to resource and supply a military intervention in Taiwan via the sea than to do something militarily in Ukraine. Anyone with some military understanding knows this. Mearsheimer chooses to ignore this aspect, and makes an uncharacteristically outlandish assessment of American intervention in Taiwan. Lastly, one other indicator on this is the US forcing Taiwan's key semiconductor firm TSMC to relocate its state-of-the art manufacturing plant in Arizona. This is a pre-emptive move to effectively 'make Taiwan less important to chip supply'. One can see the positioning here, reduce dependency on Taiwanese tech, and reduce the pressure (economic) of US need to intervene should China move on Taiwan. So many dimensions, Mearsheimer provides a lop-sided perspective. I think it is a 'salami-slicing' piecemeal reading that Mearsheimer did here. Surprising for an academic of his experience and stature. China's security concerned are actually quite transparent. The safety of its trade-routes and sea-lanes is critical. It's military strengthening to ensure that is understandable, and I think Mearsheimer, as an expert in great-power politics, knows very well. His selective reading of the situation in Asia is narrow and informed by his knowledge of great-power politics in the Western World over the last 150 years, from British, French, German, Soviet and the US Empires. He has insufficient understanding of how China perceives its role in the World.
You're right but you're not in the same page in most Americans politicians and intellectual way of thinking in terms of hegemony, a zero sum game take all
for point 2), you seem to have put events backwards, cart before horse. aukus, quad (the 2.0 version not the 2008 one), nato in asia etc all came about AFTER china started buildup of SCS bases. the status quo was pre SCS base militarization. Spratly islands were already a contentious source of dispute between all asean and chinese claimants pre 2014 (since the 90s at least, but was not a "hot" dispute involving military assets but under numerious dialogues). You could argue China aggressively staking the 9 dash line claim post 2010s as a challenge to the status quo.
Talking so many mistakes here, regarding China and the Chinese Province of Taiwan. See UN Resolution 2758. Get over it and go home america, before you make too much trouble for yourselves.
John Mearsheimer isn't helping the US understand where they go wrong! He might not precisely fit into their "think tanks". But so nearly so, that he never challenges their thinking. I usually ignore him because he never challenges the US mainstream views.
As a Russian I don't know much about the historical affairs in the Southeast Asia as well, but from what I remember, when the USA and the PRC shook hands and agreed on investments in the PRC in 1970s, the USA finally recognized the PRC as a nation and agreed to the one China policy. And now when I hear about Taiwan it looks like they took their own words back. Pls correct me if I'm wrong.
Yes, John, that is, if the Chinese think the way you do, US would be out of Asia already. Obviously, the current situation is a testimony that your theory that every nation cares only about their security does not apply to some countries. Is it possible your theory only applies to western countries?
If China was the aggressor like Philippine, then someone would had died. Philippine killed Taiwanese fisherman in 2013. 8 Filipino coast guards found guilty. If China was the aggressor, they would have colonized Philippine. The United States colonized the Philippines for 48 years, from 1898 to 1946. Philippine-American War resulted in over 250K Filipino casualties. China never colonized Philippine.
Presently, China is illegally occupying part of Spratly, a Phil owned territory & within Phils EEZ sea building a militarized w missile-installed artificial island ,is trying to grab other Phil reefs & shoals,have over 200 militia & coadtguard ships/boats in Phils EEZ, meddling/intruding, w conflicts, in the EEZ seas of Indonesia,Vietnam & Malaysia all part of its insistence of its invalidated claim of South China Sea.
John is a realist, but he's making the assumption that Western hegemonic behaviour is universal. Historically, this is not true. China has never been colonial, even at its height in the Han, Tang and Ming dynasties. It wants regional supremacy, maybe, but lacks the expansionist culture historically seen in Europe.
And there is good reason for this. China had the land and the resources to sustain itself. Europe however, had to compete among themselves for the little resources they had, and eventually decided they had to take from others outside Europe.
I would have to strongly disagree with Mearsheimer on this one, his knowledge of Chinese culture and history is very limited. The Chinese for all their faults, aren't stupid enough to create an OVERSEAS empire. They have had many opportunities in their history to do so and they have never pursued it. Throughout Chinese history China will fight their land neighbors every now and then, but most of these fights are only within their own territory or represents a direct threat to their land borders. China is the only civilization in human history to achieve Superpower status more than once. In fact, China has achieved it 7 times in 3,000 years: The Qin Dynasty, Han Dynasty, Tang Dynasty, Song Dynasty, Yuan Dynasty, Ming Dynasty, and Qing Dynasty. Throughout all these dynasties they were unmatched in military and economic strength. They NEVER pursued an overseas empire. They certainly had the economic, military, and naval strength to do so, but they never did. At worst, foreign countries would have to pay tribute to the Chinese dynasties for trade rights in China. I'll give an example of how the Chinese think about overseas empires: During the Ming Dynasty, Zheng He (A famous Chinese Muslim Admiral) was given the largest fleet of Wooden Warships in history. He sailed around the Western Pacific and Indian Oceans, Made contacts all over southeast Asia, India, the Middle East, and Africa. His fleet had overwhelming military and naval power unmatched by anyone during this time. But he NEVER invaded another country or used it to bully other countries. He just went around to establish diplomatic and trade relationships with all these different countries. The only violence he committed was having to fight the many pirates that raided merchant ships in these oceans. After Admiral Zheng died at the age of 64, the Chinese emperor decided to burn the entire Chinese naval fleet to focus on domestic matters. Never in this entire history did China ever think about enslaving or colonizing the much weaker countries they made contact with. The Chinese realize a simple truth that Westerners don't have the intellectual capacity to understand: If you invade a country of people who are different than you, they will fight you endlessly for generations until you either have to give up, or go broke. The only reason it ever worked in the New World is because European diseases destroyed 90% of the population before Europeans conquerors arrived. The Chinese well understand that they will not have such luck.
There's a saying in America, "money talks bs walks" which describes the US foreign policy to the tee in regards to its "special relationship" with Israel.
After China’s Century of Humiliation 1839-1949, China PRC today never ever wish others the same in the future. For this one should ask John Mearsheimer, when was the last time China went to War and why did China build a Blue Water Navy. Last time China Blue Water Fleet was under Zheng He, admiral who helped extend the influence of China throughout the regions bordering the Indian Ocean and noted it did not build Bases all over the world then nor all over the world now, like the 800 plus USAs
Professor Mearsheimer is like a less evil, less belligerent John Bolton; they both sell the same existential threat only difference is containment (Mearsheimer) vs. confrontation (Bolton).
China is not as Mad as the US,trying to whacked every countries into submission.China Policies is always Win Win for everyone Prosperity & Peace for everyone, everywhere.
35:17 Mearsheimer is deadly wrong here: China is not imitating the US and China has no intention to be a hegemon. China wants a peaceful world. Yes, China is developing a blue water navy, but that is for defensive purpose, not to invade other countries like the USA.
the main differences between US and China model: US' model is based on chaos and war of other nations so it can profit from it. China's model is based on peace and cooperation so it can grow from it.
China has learned from its long history. When China is Poor, it will suffer Hunger, and when China is Weak, it will be Bullied by other Imperial Countries
The United State's government and business / financial sector is doing injustice to China, by presenting it as vile, which it is not. China invests in its economy for the benefit of its citizens' quality of life. For example, its government invested 235 billion dollars in its electric vehicles companies, while the U.S. government practically did not make any investment in this sector, and at the same time the U.S. government claims that China is competing unfairly in that and other fields. China is not a war mongering country, it has increasingly relied on economic influence, diplomacy, and practically did not start any war in the recent many decades (with the only possible exception re: its 1979 war with Vietnam. Each country claims that the other had started that war). Chinese men retire at age 60 and women at age 55. Yes. It has a super broad / extensive and convenient high speed trains network and the country's industrial and technological sectors are overall very advanced. And transportation, groceries and eating out there are less expensive than in the U.S. ... Many Americans suffer a lot financially under Capitalism. They simply don't understand that Capitalism is where they should channel their frustrations. The Capitalism creates those cycles of financial crises. I recommend you to watch some UA-cam videos that show the situation in China. You will be totally amazed. As opposed to what Americans are constantly told by the U.S. government, The Chinese government is doing the right thing: Planning its economy with the goal of improving the quality of the lives of its citizens.
You know what, China is one of the oldest and longest surviving cultures on this planet, majority of the people are still the indigenous people lived there forever, not without a good reason. They have enough history lessons they can draw their conclusions from.
What if they want? So don’t have any answer. This is the logic behind Great Power Politics. One has to hedge its bet and proactively prepare for all possibilities.
@@ashkanshekarchi7753 because China had never try to colonise other countries when they had the means and power to do so; thus, only had tributary system or else southeast Asia should had been colonised by China long before Europe came. Even one Korean historian that I watched admits that even if Korea under tributary system in the past, they have more freedom since China had never interfere with their internal problem and how Korea should be governed. China has never had that interest on other countries as long as that countries don't point their swords on China. I think Confucious / Daoism/ Buddhist / Sun Tzu thinking, influence China to be more inward rather than outward; they care more about the problems in their own country rather than other country. That's why when strong and vicious northern nomads that long like to attack China in the past like Mongols, XiongNu etc conquered / being conquered by China, in the long run, they too lost their ambitions to conquer other countries and content to govern / be governed by/ stay in China and just trade with other countries rather than going to war of conquest.
Well, I didn't learn anything new from listening to his talk but he did a not bad job to summarize the views of those he represents, which can be used as references in the future.
wow, it sums up how wrong he is in his few opening sentences. there's a chinese saying that best describes his thoughts about china- 以小人之心度君子之腹, meaning "judging the heart of a gentlemen with the mind of a villain". china has been the biggest and wealthiest country in human history for many many times. we have learnt in our 5000 years of history that every empire or dynasty can rise and eventually fall. so what matters most is not to be a hegemony. what matters most is peace and good life for everyone of the world.
you just CANNOT assume everybody will choose to be a criminal under the same circumstance. China has been super power for thousands of years and neighboring country of Japan, Vietnam, Korea, Philippine, yet China didn't install army bases inside them and never colonized them, never bombed them, the US did.
The United State's government and business / financial sector is doing injustice to China, by presenting it as vile, which it is not. China invests in its economy for the benefit of its citizens' quality of life. For example, its government invested 235 billion dollars in its electric vehicles companies, while the U.S. government practically did not make any investment in this sector, and at the same time the U.S. government claims that China is competing unfairly in that and other fields. China is not a war mongering country, it has increasingly relied on economic influence, diplomacy, and practically did not start any war in the recent many decades (with the only possible exception re: its 1979 war with Vietnam. Each country claims that the other had started that war). Chinese men retire at age 60 and women at age 55. Yes. It has a super broad / extensive and convenient high speed trains network and the country's industrial and technological sectors are overall very advanced. And transportation, groceries and eating out there are less expensive than in the U.S. ... Many Americans suffer a lot financially under Capitalism. They simply don't understand that Capitalism is where they should channel their frustrations. The Capitalism creates those cycles of financial crises. I recommend you to watch some UA-cam videos that show the situation in China. You will be totally amazed. As opposed to what Americans are constantly told by the U.S. government, The Chinese government is doing the right thing: Planning its economy with the goal of improving the quality of the lives of its citizens.
@@patriotoverseas It's not a question of willingness, it's a question of territorial sovereignty. If you ask 1.4 billion Chinese what they want, Taiwan has already been attacked 800 times. The Chinese government, on the other hand, has exercised restraint in seeking peaceful reunification without harming civilians.
What if they want? So don’t have any answer. This is the logic behind Great Power Politics. One has to hedge its bet and proactively prepare for all possibilities.
@@ashkanshekarchi7753 It's self deprecating to want be like United States. It ends very soon. For anyone who read some Chinese philosophy, desperate to be the biggest kid on the block is a stupid idea. 天下所谋。
@@ashkanshekarchi7753 "This is the logic behind Great Power Politics" ... you make it sounds like 'that' is a 'global truth'. is it? ... reminder: EU people evolved in a TINY corner of the world, with scarce resources. ... did EVERYONE evolved that one?
Just like Genghis Khan thought of connecting peacefull trade between the Great Islamic Persia and the Great Jin/Song empire. Drastic things happened. 😅
Good analysis. It is absolutely appalling that US, Japan and Australia would come to help to defence Taiwan if China reunite Taiwan with the mainland. There is absolutely none of their (US, Japan, Australia) business and just stay out of other people's sovereignty issue. And it is even more appalling that the West would embrace the open door NATO policy which it knows will antagonize Russia causing of all kind of human suffering in these countries.
John underestimated the Chinese military Prowess. The US and its allies were defeated by China in the Korean war even when China have not advanced weapons. Now China DF17 can easily sink the US aircraft carrier and kill a few thousand US personnel. Can the US accept this loss. will the US citizen allows their sons to die for Taiwan when 90% of them do not know where Taiwan is on the Map. John is not militarily knowledgeable. Reply
there has always been a huge flaw in mearsheimer's thinking on china that i dont think he can ever explain. his whole theory on china is that if china becomes a hegemon then china will then run around the world telling other countries what to do like the united states. why would china see what the united states is doing and think "you know this whole hegemon thing is working so great for the united states, i think we'll have a piece of that action as well". china sees that the united states plan for global hegemony is causing it to decline and yet he thinks this is something that china is going to want to do. for a smart guy he's kind of dumb.
China would not imitate the US in blue waters Navy. They would instead develop their fleet of type 55 destroyers which are more agile and flexible to project naval reach and deterrance.
The opinion that US wants to maintain status quo and not provoke China in regards to Taiwan is patently wrong when American bases are being setup in Taiwan.
The problem with John Mearsheimer is that he tries to use a western mindset to understand Chinese thinking, Chinese people is a people that built walls, they want stability and prosperity within their walls, they would rather mind their own business if left alone. the funny thing is, once they reach that goal, they normally don't do very well, when they get too complacent, there are always corruption and in-fighting, and governing become extremely inefficient, however, when there are external threat to their survival, the do bind together for their collective security and become extremely efficient.
You're right. Take the West's Xinjiang narrative for example, it did make the Uyghurs side with the Chinese Nation more firmly in recent years, which is exactly the opposite of what they tried to achieve.
This short-sighted US Prof doesn't even know Taiwanese are Mainland Chinese descendants and how many of them would sacrifice their lives fighting against present-day China's PLA to defend Taiwan's arrogant DPP die-hard Separatists? I predict the American Empire and its World Domination shall its Waterloo over Taiwan
China does not want to be a hegemon like the United States or dominate the world. This perception of China is uniquely Western. You have to know the history of China to know this.
I have my doubts about that. China did sent its fleet all over the world in the times of Zheng He in the 1420s. It was so costly that the next emperor scrapped the whole enterprise fast, it was bankrupting the empire. Same process with the US today.
Zheng He's mission was diplomatic in nature, and not like Western colonizers. His ships were laden with gifts while Westerners sought only to take from others.
If it were like the United States today. His Dynasty would not have suffered a great loss. Because Zheng He's fleet would continue to bring resources from overseas.
The difference is that the Chinese went to sea to trade. Sometimes he brought foreign envoys back to the palace to pay their respects. Accordingly, this approach has not been able to support the huge expenditure on the sea. So it was canceled. But the West went to sea differently. They killed, plundered and colonized. They can bring back nearly 600 times more wealth than they spend on each ocean voyage.
The professor is briliant in his analysis but his problem is that his view is formed by the long history of aggressive evading and colonization committed by the West. His geopolitical view may applies to US but not to China. Not once did China invade and colonize Philippines, Malaya,, Korea or Japan. (Mongols are not Chinese). The Confucian Philosophy and the Buddhists teaching are both against such Western behaviors.
China will emerge stronger in time to come. US will debted itself till it broke. Dedollarisation will play a significant part in US downfall. And if there is a breakthrough in new chip technology by China, just like EV cars, Taiwan will not be the fore front in chip production and importance.Taiwan then will be in a dire state. This will happen in 15 to 25 years time.
@@AB-mn5re We respect different cultures. But to be honest, Europe got rid of theocracy in the 14th and 15th centuries. India has not escaped the injustice of caste in the 21st century. Not to be derogatory, just to say, don't you think this is a constraint that civilization must get rid of
Today it is difficult to project power with military force as seen in the Red Sea where US navy cannot enforce "freedom of navigation". The only way is to be friendly to all countries.
The Question is The US is capable to fight China? US couldn’t even make enough missiles or emanation to continue fighting more than few weeks, all US military bases within 2,500 miles from Chinese coast line will be destroyed in a few hours 😂😂😂😂 Professor, you supposed to be a realism expert!😮😮😮😮
Keen observer of China would differ on Mearsheimer's view that China would be gloating over the Russo-Ukraine war. This is not only a poor rendering of Chinese history and geopolitical perspectives. Mearsheimer's view is a typical American geopolitical worldview of zero-sum mentality. A sort of de facto play out of historical events among leaders in other countries too. It's also an anathema as well as an antithesis of historicity, diplomacy and state policy governing international relations.
China, having to keep the 1.45 B people moderately well off, is a formidable task. She doesn't want to add more problems to her governance by colonizing a couple of billions more. In fact, there are 650 million chinese to be made moderately wealthy.
In fact, China is still very poor. By 2020, China will be completely rid of poverty. But it just means that everybody has something to eat and doesn't starve to death. But their incomes still have a lot of room to improve. So we still have work to do.
Indeed, Chinese did roam around the world whwn Zhenghe led a fleet that visited Indian coast, Persian gulf and the Red Sea during 15th century multiple times.
Mr. Mearsheimer's perspective is primarily rooted in a traditional realist approach, typical of Cold War-era thinking, which prioritizes power dynamics and state-centric strategies over nuanced considerations of human culture and societal complexities. This narrow focus constrains his analysis, limiting his ability to fully grasp the depth and diversity of contemporary global issues that require a broader understanding of cultural, social, and historical contexts. As a result, his insights, while strategic, often lack the multidimensional perspective necessary to address the complexities of today's interconnected world.
Where is the one China policy. U. S. does not keeping their commitment. Talking about experience in wars. Did China fought in the wars in Korea, Vietnam. Why U. S lost the wars
China: 5000 years of wisdom about Empires and Powers US: 500 years of colonization and invasions John Mearsheimer: book worm imagining himself as eagle and dragon, at the same time
If Asia joined alliances no one would be able to compete with them economically and pretty well militarily. If Taiwan loses its chip status what interest would the US have in what happens to them???
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Thinker, are you serious?
Do you even know what think means?
John Mearsheimer: If I Were in Beijing, US Would Already Be Kicked Out of Asia
Does John Mearsheimer know that this title means that he knows that China is different from himself and the West, thinks differently, and acts differently?
Simply put, does John Mearsheimer know that John Mearsheimer doesn't know China?
Oh, my DOG, can John Mearsheimer read English?
Johnny boy, just in case that you care to know why China hasn't kicked the US out of Asia. The only answer is that it would be easier for the Chinese to slaughter, cook, and eat the Americans in Asia.
John is talking nonsense...why should China behave the same as the Americans in the imperialistic sense?
We know from history, Americans practiced slavery and conducted genocide on the Native Indians whereas China never got involved in such misdeeds! By building Great Wall to protect itself, China had no barbaric behavior in expanding itself outward!!!
@@一个说话大声的中国人 With some soya sauce. :)
Seeking power game, you will lose because you the west sin against HIM!
@@dominicwong7613 Fk the ‘other’ Gulf states (they are not organically self sustainable: economic zones) Venezuela👍🏽; Venezuela Mexico combo would be killer; If common sense policy is leveraged within South America it’d become an Rising Tiger;
I’m from Malaysia. China has traded with us for two thousand years, but never once China invaded us or colonized us. When China wanted something they traded with us. In 1511, the Portuguese came, in 1642 the Dutch came, in 1786 the British came, we were colonized by each, one after another.
We often hear the West say: “Once China becomes the biggest power in the world, we would be colonized or imperialized, our resources looted, our treasures raided, we have to follow what they say, because we did those things when we were powerful, so they would do the same”.
The fact is, China was as poor as India in 1980s. Since 1990, it has started to grow and turned to a superpower today, without dropping a single bomb in a foreign country. Never before in history of mankind, from the Athenian, to the Roman Empire, to the Mongolian Empire, to the Ottoman Empire, to the British Empire, to Nazi German and Imperial Japan, to the American Empire, has a superpower risen without any bloodshed, wars, slavery & colonization of other countries.
This is a REAL civilization, and this is something that Western leaders and scholars will never understand.
Great comment, right on the point, totally agree.
AGREE!
And fear most because the World like What China is.
the proof of the Wests peace is all over africa
Agree
I have watched many vedioes of John talking about China and US relationship. I found the biggest problem of him is that he always think about China based on American point of view. A typical example of an Chinese expert knowing nothing about China.
and because he's an american and america is still way more powerful than anyone else
he believes in a world where the might is right
wait until the US isn't so mighty anymore, then they'd be begging for alturism and mutual cooperation
john thinks china sees what the united states is doing in the world and thinks to itself the united states is doing so well for itself with it's global hegemony business that let's have a piece of that as well when we're number one. why would china see a declining united states and go yes let's also shoot ourselves in the foot.
All you need to know is , He’s a biased retired American military man who only rooting for the West to never lose it’s Premier position in the World. Only time will tell if the American Empire will collapse not from external entities but rather from within! After all how long will 50 states hold together when they only get to choose from 2 parties to represent them?
@@sewinvicta9274 Why do national security, the balance of power, geopolitics, regional hegemony, cultural competitiveness, and so on have to be built on the principles of zero-sum, beggar-thy-neighbor, the dog in the manger, violence, and demonizing?
Why can't the world and humanity coexist peacefully, and develop, cooperate, and benefit mutually?
Is the West mentally sick and culturally evil?
@@sewinvicta9274there are comonaluties, but not in all those areas. China is not going to make a military alliance to threathen the us, they are gonna trade with the us allies, to the point where they wouldnt help the us in a war since it would be economic suicide. Strategic co-dependence is a much more stable nash-equilibrium than an entangled hard power based strategy
When US was like China today, it already declared on Spain and overtaking territories like Puerto Rico, Philippines, etc as colonies. And also the brutality and oppression used to suppression the rebellions or opposition to its hegemony. Too bad, China still hasn't done anything similar but promotes Win-Win cooperations and trades. Perhaps that's why US accused China for not being Like-Minded as expected. In fact, that couldn't be more true.
China may be assertive today but certainly not aggressive as many western media wish to depict through misinformation, slandering and disseminating alternate facts as the realty nowadays.
With the US Congress legislate a $1.6 billion dollars propaganda fund on the way, we can only expect to get more negative news, fake news, and misinformation on China.
Needless to say impiralism has resulted in the destruction of many a civilization.... How is the other model built to last?
Nobody cares about the past history ,its all about power projection and protecting interest for the future
Obviously either you are stupid or not keeping up with current events. China illegally occupied islands in the West Philippines Sea. It has an ongoing confrontation with India in the Kashmir. China subjugated the Mongolians, the Tibetans, and the Ueghurs. It is intimidating and trying to annex Taiwan. China has problems with islands in the South China that belongs to Vietnam.
Forget about Chinese history, it's absolutely irrelevant. Today's China = rule of Marxistic, Leninistic communists = brutal violance and aggression and tens of millions of killed in power pursuing.
I DO NOT agree with what prof said at the beginning of video - protecting economic and political interest !
China has no military bases around the world and they don't intend to do what the US has done ie. having 800 ++ military bases around planet earth and using hegemonic tactics to grow the economic and politic interest.
In fact China has shown the US you can grow your economic and progress a country towards modernization by just doing trading with good innovation WITHOUT USING HEGEMONIC or MILITARIES BASES AROUND THE WORLD !
Shame on the US !!
@albertcadgame8314 keep in mind this prof are am-rican blood in their bodies, of course it's very Clear what is on their minds is always War. and I agree with you. this am-rican prof is useless.
Mr. Mearsheimer’s limitation is that he is an American & thinks like one & can’t fathom that other cultures don’t think at all like Americans & understand that the American way of doing things is destructive & doomed to failure.
That is also the trouble of any American neocon who wants to push China into a corner, not knowing that would burn the whole world in a nuclear confrontation! Are the Americans capable to withstand nuclear fallout???
It is unlucky for the Americans to have an academic like John M
He is intellectually dishonest. The fact that he frames the US as a "regional hegemon" when the US is involved in or directly instigated in the going ons in Ukraine, Libya, Taiwan, Philippines is evidence that he is a liar.
China is a threat to US global hegemony, he wants to maintain that status quo, that's why he strongly criticises US involvement in Ukraine and wants the US to focus all its attention in China
@@brainwashington1332 Exactly agreeing to your point...John is the diehard neocon who wants all other nations to cater to US interests because America is the only superpower! In his mind, he wants every other nation dead and only US survives in this globe!!!
@@suziez3410 All US politicians behave just like John who wants American total domination and the only bully in this world! Past misdeeds such as slavery and genocide of Native Americans provide evidence to validate this fact!!!!
A major mistake Mearsheimer makes is to think that Ukraine decided to invade the Kursk district, America makes all the mistakes, they do not care about Ukraine's losses.
It was arranged by the British for their master the US.
cos he is careful to be in line with uS rhectoric when uS create conflicts with their perceived enemies . Reverse the cause n effect ie portray their adversaries and not uS as the threat to regional peace n stability and the troublemaker who provokes the conflict with them He is no jeffrey sach who will exposed uS hypocrisy.
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I think it's probably the British, for a reason unknown to me, they seem to be the most hawkish towards Russia.
Don't kid yourself. The US calls all the shots.
The previous Philipines President was against US. But Marcos is trying to get his father millions held by US, so he has to wag his tail...
Exactly 👍 and Marcos sold all the beautiful ladies of the Philippinos to the U.S. military service personnel in the form of providing military bases in the Philippines. Balless Marcos 😅
Duterte also claimed that he would stand up to China, but then they gave him $2 billion and he fell in line
You nailed it. Try to tell filinos that though and they are all in denial.
@@a.shikatoswu5400He only grows the parts that are useful.
Duarte seemed to work in Philippines own interests. Marcos in just his own interests.
Dollars speaking, I presume! The US might think it's cheap to buy the Philippines for, let's say $1B.
Is there where some of our taxpayer's $1.6B anti-china propaganda is going to? lol
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Fox news, newsweek, and others will for sure try to grab some. free money. smearing china, easy job..
Every US citizens will provide $5 to anti-china. There is old Chinese: 身正不怕影子歪。
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Lol
Again you think China want or need to be like the US to roam all over the world because it’s a regional power. This assumption is wrong. China has her own way and she is not like the US because she can clearly see that USA is wrong doing these things. 🎋
China is harassing ASEAN countries over fishing rights... I dont think so.
Definitely but we need to incorporate Taiwan Province sooner or later.
@@ffbeexaid4509who ie ‘. We ‘ here ? Formosa is a part of China and always has been. China will , by negotiation re absorb Taiwan.it is the Chinese way. The American way is an unevolved and Primitive method as a way of dominating others. China never thinks of that because its methods are about cooperation not competition.
John .... please don't forget that historically, US-UN had fought China 3 times and lost 3 times... 1) China Civil War ... 2) Korean Civil War ... 3) Vietnam Civil War.
They lost 3 times against pre industrial army, and they think they can win the 4th with China having more advanced aircraft carriers
China Civil war...did the US send American soldiers?
Korean Civil War, China fought Korea? Or Koreans fight Koreans?
Vietnam...did China fight America in Vietnam?
So China meddled in Korea and Vietnam?
@@martinvanburen4578
In the Chinese Civil War, the Kuomintang regime supported by the US government was defeated and retreated to the small island of Taiwan.
The Korean War is called the forgotten war by Americans. This is a bad experience that the US military is reluctant to recall.
In the Vietnam War, the Chinese government did not allow the US military to enter the 17th parallel north, and the US military could not completely wipe out the North Vietnamese army.
The above may be the historical knowledge you have never learned in American textbooks
@@martinvanburen4578 when china lacked technology, they relied on the numbers and bravery of the people...... in korean war, u.s lost 36000, china between 180000 to 400000....... today china still repatriating the remains of people's volunteer army back home for burial...
@@martinvanburen4578read history books boy!
I am glad you are not China.
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Under-rated comment
In a way you are so right !!
Becos if he is from China then the whole world will be chaotic !
More wars when people like prof here, making or suggesting foreign policies for their govt.
Delusional narcissist.
This is where you are not able to understand the Chinese.
I think he never lives in China before. Also he never studies Chinese history.
I disagree with him on China, too. Chinese like to have stability and peace .
He assumes all countries act like war addicted USA
He knows full well. He is indirectly informing that those in charge of the empire are mostly in his age group and their decision very much driven by the glorious past. Besides Mr. Mearsheimer internationally playing the political correctness strategy. Otherwise he would be removed.
he has zero sum mentality
His thinking is not civilized from Chinese’s view.
nor mine
meishiemer is a liar and pretending to be a scholar.
@@yct6500he is just a warmonger dressed in academic clothing.
@@yct6500 dude is a light weight at best. a client "expert" commentator. i have yet to learn one thing of any value from that guy
He thinks it is normal for people to behave like unthinking bullies in a school yard. USA has to grow up.
Mearsheimer projects. He is thinks that just because he like chocolate, everybody else likes chocolate too. He should ask himself why the huge and powerful fleet led by Zheng He in 1405 AD sailed to Africa and yet never conquered any small African chiefdom.
In general Chinese mindset, when you die there is no better place than the town you were born.
To die in foreign land was one of worse curse for an average Chinese person.
Therefore, colonising a foreign land was never their logic thinking, because every Chinese wants to go home when they are old.
that was a myth lol...
John Mearsheimer is way too obsessed with hegemony ,but Chinese experienced hegemony in Mongol dynasty ,And the story is about conquer and brutal rule like British empire .No interest repeat that story again
Yes... Noticed they refrained from going to other continents. Demanding Africa be like China is hegemony. That is what the US wants. It wants the entire world to be like the US and serve their interests which is why we interfere with every single country that does something we don't like.
China is harassing ASEAN countries over fishing rights... I dont think so.
That was Mongols, not Chinese per se!
There is a Chinese saying crooks think everyone is like him. So crooks think everyone is a crook, just like him.
"A thief always believes everybody steals" in English I guess
As a Chinese, I would say that we just want America to stop its aggression.
Powers only understand strength! No body cares about our wants and desires! Only power could coerce others.
Based on the DNA, it is not going to, the empires involved in the Thucydides Traps, look at what are the predominant characteristics in the DNA makeup.
When bold eagles begin to eat grass seeds and small insects as their foods, it will happen.
Americans speak with guns. They are deaf to words.
We Chinese are not afraid of war, we have militant DNA, but we love peace.
While Mearsheimer is much more astute that the average Western analyst/thinker, he still makes the same fundamental mistake by viewing China from the perspective of America and assuming that what the US wants is what China wants. On this, Martin Jacques has the better take: to understand China, you need to view China from its own perspective.
Mearsheimer himself states that if he were in China's position, he would already have kicked the US out of Asia. But China didn't do this, not yet at least. Does Mearsheimer not wonder why? This fact alone is enough to make one wonder that perhaps China is different from the US, and it is strange that Mearsheimer didn't catch on to it.
An intelligent person often times get blinded or tunnel vision by their own scope of intelligence
he thinks it's because China is dumb as fuck.
M. thinks that it is inevitable that also China needs a security space, and the best way is to become a regional hegemony to be safe against threats. Just think of current US threats: China needs to be able to defend itself and to deter potential enemies, even without attacking or colonizing anybody. I'd like to remind what happened last time China was weak, in the 1930's. Power politics is an unfortunate reality.
You have to factor in what he is allowed to say, and what strategy he involved in crafting a narrative. People of this caliber are not naive.
I see the Chinese dismiss American academics as if America does not have close to 70 plus years of accomplished academics in politics and military history. America is a modern state and became modernized before China.
While I do agree with John on many things, I disagree with his view on China. The problem is that he based on his review of China when it becomes a superpower as if China will do the same thing as US does. He is completely wrong. The 5000 years of Chinese civilization and modern history of China has already proven China is nothing like the US. The rise of China in the last 40 year shows a Country can become a world super power without bloodshed. John's analogy of what China will do is faulty and that is the precise problem with the US government. All the actions taken by the US is causing China to react economically and militarily.
因为中国没那么傻。英国，美国，苏联，都是霸权主义衰落的。
Mearsheimer reveals the limits of his intellectual ability.
Because it's his culture to be a buuuli
The problem with Mearsheimer.
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And to think there are so many professors like him in the US are so illiterate and superficial on foreign affairs.
RichardDWolff said it himself, during his formation he went through 3 ivy league universities and not a single one had literate professors on Marxist economics. It was extirpated during mcartianism, (the professors were afraid of being fired and did not talk about the subject.) This led to an "cleaned" academy where "liberal economics" were rebranded as "economics". Today they do not understand Marxist economics and fight strawman versions of it.
I imagine they did this on other areas or at least worked their bias heavily in their teachings, history might be another field affected...
This culture reflects on the tools and language they have available to describe the world. They still see it in a colon-nizer zero-sum game way because they were taught to see it like that. They concentrate on geopolitical analisys and fail in history context...
The fact your comment is so empty shows the limits of your intellectual ability, he is far smarter than you, that is for sure.
@@marcelo55869 Marxist economies is not a serious subject.
John was bullied in grade school and thus believe BULLYING is the only way to survive.
That's the language of the colon-nizer.
@@ysw8291 you think, can you?
This is Thinkers Forum???
Thinker, are they serious?
Do you even know what think means?
John Mearsheimer: If I Were in Beijing, US Would Already Be Kicked Out of Asia
Does John Mearsheimer know that this title means that he knows that China is different from himself and the West, thinks differently, and acts differently?
Simply put, does John Mearsheimer know that John Mearsheimer doesn't know China?
Oh, my DOG, can John Mearsheimer read English?
Johnny boy, just in case that you care to know why China hasn't kicked the US out of Asia. The only answer is that it would be easier for the Chinese to slaughter, cook, and eat the Americans in Asia.
you have the view of a child, the world order and hegemony is dictated by force. You live in the animal kingdom only the most deadly dictate the laws and rules of the world. You live on Earth not in Heaven.
If he smirked at everyone every time he talks like he does now, you’d bully him too! 😂
@@marcelo55869 AssWiper is a better world!
Sir, strategic dishonesty (ambiguity) and double-speak are exclusively Western culture. They are unacceptable in the rest of the world.
The US saying one thing and doing the opposite in Taiwan, in Palestine and in Ukraine.
U.S. attempt to maintain its hegemony will be the cause of its downfall. Trying to maintain hundreds of military bases abroad is sapping its economic resources. It's military failure in Vietnam, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, and its proxy war in Ukraine has shown its weakness. It is already highly indebted (33.5T) and can no longer pay it debt. It has been de-industrialized. And so, other countries are abandoning the U.S. dollar as a reserve and trade currency. It's just matter of time before the U.S. economy collapses and social unrest in the U.S. erupts.
Yes, the fall will be within for sure!
" a matter of time....social unrest erupt in the USA.." this ID the sad reality.
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You are wrong, Dr Mearsheimer! There is this thing called cultural dimension to geopolitics. China has no hegemonic lust like the way the US has.
是你没听懂。中国表面上是和平，但是国际竞争是不允许的，国际竞争就是比谁的手腕硬，谁的原子弹nb，谁是地头蛇！。。。受不了了，随便吧。这就是他是教授而你不是得原因
US have major trust deficit.
And a major overdose of Paranoia. Mr M starts out from that position in his theory,
A constant liar just can't trust the others. They say Chinese phones are hiked, because they have actually done that.
If China wanted to be a colon-niser, it was colon-nising Asia long before the West was a colon-nising power 😂😂😂.
Fu if you think you can colonise Asia
We don't see China as an enemy but don't mistake this as our acceptance of your hegemony 🐖
China is harassing ASEAN countries over fishing rights... I dont think so.
The philippines were literally trying to annex itself into China by sending emissary to the court and got rejected. (year 1753)
Chinese Emperor‘s worse nightmare, the starvation of his people when there aren‘t enough food.
Extra citizens means extra mouth to feed, means extra problems for Emperor. 😁
Modern day Emperor Xi will never interest to spend his entire life looking for food for his people.
Philipinos can stay where they are.
China is following US & Russia's mistakes when China was still a non Superpower. US is now reacting & together w other countries.Russia wants to revive Warsaw pact again,Ukraine is an example.
Well, then we are glad that mersheimer is not in Beijing dictating the politics of China.
Merhsiemer despite all his castigation of the current UAS foreign policies is very much a hegemonic style thinker who based his "realism" on western colonial mindset of power politics. He is very much a UAS hegemonist, he just disagree with how the UAS is doing it.
China, as a culture and a society, has long since understood this kind of childish, (yes very childish) way of thinking will only lead to a collapse sooner or later because you will spend way too much energy and resources trying to maintain an empire, so they don't do it.
I really don’t respect such so called professor… with such low ethics, he doesn’t qualify as a professor to teach anyone… I m so sad such person has such big influence in US - this is one of the rotten signs in US…👎👎👎👎👎
Who or what is UAS ? Is it true they just pay you guys 50 cents a post ?
@@ivycheng7248 you have the view of a child, the world order and hegemony is dictated by force. You live in the animal kingdom only the most deadly dictate the laws and rules of the world. You live on Earth not in Heaven.
Agree 100% that Mearsheimer is a hawk. He is different from the idiots in the White House, Congress and Senate in that he is more of a realist and sees world geopolitics more clearly.
It's not like China can avoid it. Look at trade war and tech war. Plus, terror groups that are obviously foreign funded are already attacking Chinese in Pakistan, and Myanmar. It's not like China can avoid war just because it doesn't want to fight it.
In my opinion, the reason why NATO wants expansion is for the US Military Industrial Complex to sell more weapons.
If it is an open-door policy, why did it not admit Russia when they said they would like to join?
Currently, such a war without Western lives being expended and selling a lot more weapons fits the West’s position.
It is the rare earth minerals and energy resources that NATO want because they can’t compete economically with China. They want to disrupt trade lines and militarise an area that can help limit Russia and help control West Asia’s oil (Middle East) with Izreals help. No surprise that Zelensky is from the same tribe.
Admitting Russia into NATO will completely eradicate security risk in Europe and military spending will plunge
Don't disturb your enemy when they're making mistakes
The US is not Chinese enemy. She is the Chinese major competitor.
@@kwokholuk8723 But the stupid sees China as their enemy because of that where China is busy getting things done.
John still does not own up to American past great mistakes!!!
His whole theory has so many holes to the point that even a gust of wind from changing world geopolitics stracture gently touching its words, it falls apart
If US will simply not interfere with Taiwan and South China Sea, Americans will save billions of dollars for US domestic needs.
The US doesnt give a shit about americans.
This man JM is very hawkish towards China. He would want Russia to Team up with Usa to contain China. Also he supports usa military intervention on Taiwan.
He is NOT hawkish towards China, he is a downright China Hater and a racist towards Chinese people, because only a racist would hate China so much by risking a war with China even it could mean the world war 3.
Mearsheimer is wrong on several points here.
1. It isn't just China that wants to see Russia prevail in the Ukraine war. The Global-Majority countries, around 140 countries, would like to see Russia win the war, and enforce Ukraine neutrality. The reason is fairly straightforward, and Mearsheimer himself knows this and has said so many times; Russia is a nuclear power, and sees NATO-encroachment, especially into Ukraine as an existential issue. As such, a Russian defeat (even a partial defeat) that ends with NATO membership for Ukraine would mean the use of tactical nuclear weapons. This is something most sane countries in the World would NOT want to see. Only some members in the US Administration/think-tanks (mostly the Neo-cons) and some deranged people in the Baltics, Poland, the UK and of course the neo-Nazis in Ukraine would push that far. So Mearsheimer is economical with the truth on this.
2. That China wants to change the status-quo and the US wants/Likes to maintain the Status-quo. The actions of the US completely destroy Mearsheimer's point here.
The US has taken a wide range of military actions in Asia, with AUKUS, the QUAD, floating the notion of NATO-in-Asia through its Japanese vassal and Stoltenberg. These are all designed to exert military pressure on China, and strengthening the 1st and 2nd Island chains to contain China. This is anything but maintaining the Status-quo. China's response is as expected. A stengthening of its naval and air-power in the East China Sea and the South China Sea. The Chinese have long understood, its maritime routes are easily susceptible to blockade by the US. This is a stranglehold over Chinese trade and the flow of raw-materials, energy and goods to-and-fro China. Any nation, if capable, will not allow this to persist. Hence Chinese military buildup, including construction of outposts in the SCS. The US has since ratcheted-up further by signing military agreements with the Philippines and moved medium-range Typhon missiles there. This is a familiar US tactic, basing medium-range missiles in Turkiye, Romania during the Cold-war. It is a provocation. Status-quo? Mearsheimer is again economical with the truth. The reality simply doesn't support his argument.
Also, he mentioned Pelosi's visit. A sitting Majority-Leader of Congress visiting Taiwan is blatant provocation and gives encouragement to separatists on the Island. It should also be noted that China eroding the Taiwan airspace is AFTER Pelosi's visit. Prior to that, China has tacitly respected the mid-line in the Taiwan Strait and not (or rarely) have its military vessels cross that mid-line. The US destroyed that equilibrium.
3. The US will come to military aid of Taiwan, should China militarily reclaim the Island. This is a selective reading of US intentions. The Ukraine situation provides the clearest indication of US willingness to engage directly in a war with a peer-great-power. Again, Mearsheimer is very aware of this, but chooses to vary his prognosis on the Taiwan case viz-a-viz UKraine. For the record, the US has poured $160billion into Ukraine, mostly in arms. The US has been training Ukrainian troops since before 2014. The CIA has been operating in Ukraine (a dozen bases there) for 15 years of more. It has encouraged European NATO allies to send 'mercenaries' to supporting Ukraine. It provides full ISR support for Ukraine to strike at Russia and Russian troops movements. BUT, the US has not intervened itself in Ukraine. One can expect the same playbook should a crisis arise in Taiwan. Note that it is far more difficult for the US to resource and supply a military intervention in Taiwan via the sea than to do something militarily in Ukraine. Anyone with some military understanding knows this. Mearsheimer chooses to ignore this aspect, and makes an uncharacteristically outlandish assessment of American intervention in Taiwan. Lastly, one other indicator on this is the US forcing Taiwan's key semiconductor firm TSMC to relocate its state-of-the art manufacturing plant in Arizona. This is a pre-emptive move to effectively 'make Taiwan less important to chip supply'. One can see the positioning here, reduce dependency on Taiwanese tech, and reduce the pressure (economic) of US need to intervene should China move on Taiwan. So many dimensions, Mearsheimer provides a lop-sided perspective.
I think it is a 'salami-slicing' piecemeal reading that Mearsheimer did here. Surprising for an academic of his experience and stature. China's security concerned are actually quite transparent. The safety of its trade-routes and sea-lanes is critical. It's military strengthening to ensure that is understandable, and I think Mearsheimer, as an expert in great-power politics, knows very well. His selective reading of the situation in Asia is narrow and informed by his knowledge of great-power politics in the Western World over the last 150 years, from British, French, German, Soviet and the US Empires. He has insufficient understanding of how China perceives its role in the World.
You're right but you're not in the same page in most Americans politicians and intellectual way of thinking in terms of hegemony, a zero sum game take all
Very impressive summary!
中国如果真的武力征服台湾，美国要么下场与中国开战，要么就是躲在家里看热闹。除了经济上对中国搞制裁他不能向乌克兰一样支援台湾。台湾是个岛国没有战略纵深，也没有地方让你美国支援。
The most impressive, truthful, logical, and underrated comment analysis on this video.
for point 2), you seem to have put events backwards, cart before horse. aukus, quad (the 2.0 version not the 2008 one), nato in asia etc all came about AFTER china started buildup of SCS bases. the status quo was pre SCS base militarization. Spratly islands were already a contentious source of dispute between all asean and chinese claimants pre 2014 (since the 90s at least, but was not a "hot" dispute involving military assets but under numerious dialogues). You could argue China aggressively staking the 9 dash line claim post 2010s as a challenge to the status quo.
China has no desire to be achegemon country like USA. In this i believe prof is in error
China is harassing ASEAN countries over fishing rights... I dont think so.
Talking so many mistakes here, regarding China and the Chinese Province of Taiwan. See UN Resolution 2758. Get over it and go home america, before you make too much trouble for yourselves.
This is western centric thinking. I doubt he knows anything about China history or Asian culture. Big Mistake
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He's a whyte supremacist and have a colonial mindset. He want uass to contain China's growth so uass can remain #1. He's a joke.
John Mearsheimer isn't helping the US understand where they go wrong!
He might not precisely fit into their "think tanks". But so nearly so, that he never challenges their thinking.
I usually ignore him because he never challenges the US mainstream views.
As a Russian I don't know much about the historical affairs in the Southeast Asia as well, but from what I remember, when the USA and the PRC shook hands and agreed on investments in the PRC in 1970s, the USA finally recognized the PRC as a nation and agreed to the one China policy. And now when I hear about Taiwan it looks like they took their own words back. Pls correct me if I'm wrong.
@@hepcat93you are 1,000% correct, Amigo! A snake in the grass lies all the time until it’s time to pounce!
Yes, John, that is, if the Chinese think the way you do, US would be out of Asia already. Obviously, the current situation is a testimony that your theory that every nation cares only about their security does not apply to some countries. Is it possible your theory only applies to western countries?
If China was the aggressor like Philippine, then someone would had died.
Philippine killed Taiwanese fisherman in 2013. 8 Filipino coast guards found guilty.
If China was the aggressor, they would have colonized Philippine.
The United States colonized the Philippines for 48 years, from 1898 to 1946.
Philippine-American War resulted in over 250K Filipino casualties.
China never colonized Philippine.
You are so right. 👍 👏
who needs to conquer a sh*t hole? 😂
20:27 Period
True! philippines was colonized & american killed 10,000,000 of philippinos during the salevery of pinoys!!
Presently, China is illegally occupying part of Spratly, a Phil owned territory & within Phils EEZ sea building a militarized w missile-installed artificial island ,is trying to grab other Phil reefs & shoals,have over 200 militia & coadtguard ships/boats in Phils EEZ, meddling/intruding, w conflicts, in the EEZ seas of Indonesia,Vietnam & Malaysia all part of its insistence of its invalidated claim of South China Sea.
John is a realist, but he's making the assumption that Western hegemonic behaviour is universal. Historically, this is not true. China has never been colonial, even at its height in the Han, Tang and Ming dynasties. It wants regional supremacy, maybe, but lacks the expansionist culture historically seen in Europe.
And there is good reason for this. China had the land and the resources to sustain itself. Europe however, had to compete among themselves for the little resources they had, and eventually decided they had to take from others outside Europe.
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This guy is definition of "projection".
He totally, utterly wrong, on almost everything.
You said China don't have theory of war in experience and US have, what is the point of having experienced in war when they lose all wars in the past.
I would have to strongly disagree with Mearsheimer on this one, his knowledge of Chinese culture and history is very limited. The Chinese for all their faults, aren't stupid enough to create an OVERSEAS empire. They have had many opportunities in their history to do so and they have never pursued it. Throughout Chinese history China will fight their land neighbors every now and then, but most of these fights are only within their own territory or represents a direct threat to their land borders.
China is the only civilization in human history to achieve Superpower status more than once. In fact, China has achieved it 7 times in 3,000 years: The Qin Dynasty, Han Dynasty, Tang Dynasty, Song Dynasty, Yuan Dynasty, Ming Dynasty, and Qing Dynasty. Throughout all these dynasties they were unmatched in military and economic strength. They NEVER pursued an overseas empire. They certainly had the economic, military, and naval strength to do so, but they never did. At worst, foreign countries would have to pay tribute to the Chinese dynasties for trade rights in China.
I'll give an example of how the Chinese think about overseas empires: During the Ming Dynasty, Zheng He (A famous Chinese Muslim Admiral) was given the largest fleet of Wooden Warships in history. He sailed around the Western Pacific and Indian Oceans, Made contacts all over southeast Asia, India, the Middle East, and Africa. His fleet had overwhelming military and naval power unmatched by anyone during this time. But he NEVER invaded another country or used it to bully other countries. He just went around to establish diplomatic and trade relationships with all these different countries. The only violence he committed was having to fight the many pirates that raided merchant ships in these oceans. After Admiral Zheng died at the age of 64, the Chinese emperor decided to burn the entire Chinese naval fleet to focus on domestic matters. Never in this entire history did China ever think about enslaving or colonizing the much weaker countries they made contact with.
The Chinese realize a simple truth that Westerners don't have the intellectual capacity to understand: If you invade a country of people who are different than you, they will fight you endlessly for generations until you either have to give up, or go broke. The only reason it ever worked in the New World is because European diseases destroyed 90% of the population before Europeans conquerors arrived. The Chinese well understand that they will not have such luck.
There's a saying in America, "money talks bs walks" which describes the US foreign policy to the tee in regards to its "special relationship" with Israel.
啊？这不是中国的古话吗？？
@@黄亚奇-g5f Perhaps this saying might have similar equivalent in other societies and cultures.
After China’s Century of Humiliation 1839-1949, China PRC today never ever wish others the same in the future.
For this one should ask John Mearsheimer, when was the last time China went to War and why did China build a Blue Water Navy.
Last time China Blue Water Fleet was under Zheng He, admiral who helped extend the influence of China throughout the regions bordering the Indian Ocean and noted it did not build Bases all over the world then nor all over the world now, like the 800 plus USAs
China doesn't try to poject military power around the world like the US. They are more interested in trade and making money.
Professor Mearsheimer is like a less evil, less belligerent John Bolton; they both sell the same existential threat only difference is containment (Mearsheimer) vs. confrontation (Bolton).
Imperialists are not aware the train has left the station, the cows are no longer coming to the pen for exploitation 😅
China is not as Mad as the US,trying to whacked every countries into submission.China Policies is always Win Win for everyone Prosperity & Peace for everyone, everywhere.
35:17 Mearsheimer is deadly wrong here: China is not imitating the US and China has no intention to be a hegemon. China wants a peaceful world. Yes, China is developing a blue water navy, but that is for defensive purpose, not to invade other countries like the USA.
China is harassing ASEAN countries over fishing rights... I dont think so.
the main differences between US and China model:
US' model is based on chaos and war of other nations so it can profit from it.
China's model is based on peace and cooperation so it can grow from it.
China has learned from its long history. When China is Poor, it will suffer Hunger, and when China is Weak, it will be Bullied by other Imperial Countries
China is being forced to develop its navy, to counter American aggression! That is too obvious to all of us!!!!
The United State's government and business / financial sector is doing injustice to China, by presenting it as vile, which it is not.
China invests in its economy for the benefit of its citizens' quality of life. For example, its government invested 235 billion dollars in its electric vehicles companies, while the U.S. government practically did not make any investment in this sector, and at the same time the U.S. government claims that China is competing unfairly in that and other fields.
China is not a war mongering country, it has increasingly relied on economic influence, diplomacy, and practically did not start any war in the recent many decades (with the only possible exception re: its 1979 war with Vietnam. Each country claims that the other had started that war).
Chinese men retire at age 60 and women at age 55. Yes.
It has a super broad / extensive and convenient high speed trains network and the country's industrial and technological sectors are overall very advanced.
And transportation, groceries and eating out there are less expensive than in the U.S. ...
Many Americans suffer a lot financially under Capitalism. They simply don't understand that Capitalism is where they should channel their frustrations.
The Capitalism creates those cycles of financial crises. I recommend you to watch some UA-cam videos that show the situation in China. You will be totally amazed. As opposed to what Americans are constantly told by the U.S. government, The Chinese government is doing the right thing: Planning its economy with the goal of improving the quality of the lives of its citizens.
You know what, China is one of the oldest and longest surviving cultures on this planet, majority of the people are still the indigenous people lived there forever, not without a good reason. They have enough history lessons they can draw their conclusions from.
John makes mistake In thousands of years, Chna never tried to be a hegemon.
China is harassing ASEAN countries over fishing rights... I dont think so.
What if they want? So don’t have any answer. This is the logic behind Great Power Politics. One has to hedge its bet and proactively prepare for all possibilities.
@@ashkanshekarchi7753 OR go about your business peacefully.
@@ashkanshekarchi7753 because China had never try to colonise other countries when they had the means and power to do so; thus, only had tributary system or else southeast Asia should had been colonised by China long before Europe came.
Even one Korean historian that I watched admits that even if Korea under tributary system in the past, they have more freedom since China had never interfere with their internal problem and how Korea should be governed. China has never had that interest on other countries as long as that countries don't point their swords on China.
I think Confucious / Daoism/ Buddhist / Sun Tzu thinking, influence China to be more inward rather than outward; they care more about the problems in their own country rather than other country. That's why when strong and vicious northern nomads that long like to attack China in the past like Mongols, XiongNu etc conquered / being conquered by China, in the long run, they too lost their ambitions to conquer other countries and content to govern / be governed by/ stay in China and just trade with other countries rather than going to war of conquest.
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China has wisdom she's going to make a powerful decision that affects Asia Pacific and the whole in a better way ❤
He is still living in the last century, where USA is very powerful then.
USA is old man😂who want to have grip on everyone
Marshead still can't see beyond the mirror 😂
I asked myself, did I learn anything from listening to Mr. Mearsheimer's speech.
yes, he is over rated.
Yes, not to think like him when it comes to China.
Well, I didn't learn anything new from listening to his talk but he did a not bad job to summarize the views of those he represents, which can be used as references in the future.
This expert knows nothing about China.
wow, it sums up how wrong he is in his few opening sentences. there's a chinese saying that best describes his thoughts about china- 以小人之心度君子之腹, meaning "judging the heart of a gentlemen with the mind of a villain". china has been the biggest and wealthiest country in human history for many many times. we have learnt in our 5000 years of history that every empire or dynasty can rise and eventually fall. so what matters most is not to be a hegemony. what matters most is peace and good life for everyone of the world.
you just CANNOT assume everybody will choose to be a criminal under the same circumstance.
China has been super power for thousands of years and neighboring country of Japan, Vietnam, Korea, Philippine, yet China didn't install army bases inside them and never colonized them, never bombed them, the US did.
How about no one be a hegemon
Western mind blown.
The fundamental error is: China does not want to be hegemong. it just need to be respected.
And united with the addition of Taiwan.
The United State's government and business / financial sector is doing injustice to China, by presenting it as vile, which it is not.
China invests in its economy for the benefit of its citizens' quality of life. For example, its government invested 235 billion dollars in its electric vehicles companies, while the U.S. government practically did not make any investment in this sector, and at the same time the U.S. government claims that China is competing unfairly in that and other fields.
China is not a war mongering country, it has increasingly relied on economic influence, diplomacy, and practically did not start any war in the recent many decades (with the only possible exception re: its 1979 war with Vietnam. Each country claims that the other had started that war).
Chinese men retire at age 60 and women at age 55. Yes.
It has a super broad / extensive and convenient high speed trains network and the country's industrial and technological sectors are overall very advanced.
And transportation, groceries and eating out there are less expensive than in the U.S. ...
Many Americans suffer a lot financially under Capitalism. They simply don't understand that Capitalism is where they should channel their frustrations.
The Capitalism creates those cycles of financial crises. I recommend you to watch some UA-cam videos that show the situation in China. You will be totally amazed. As opposed to what Americans are constantly told by the U.S. government, The Chinese government is doing the right thing: Planning its economy with the goal of improving the quality of the lives of its citizens.
Mearsheimer, usually correct in most things, is wrong on China ...
Gee, i thought everyone acknowledged that Tiawan was part of China. But he clearly making Taiwan is a western colony still.
The problem is, Taiwan will gladly become a Japanese colony or an US state if their masters will have them.
“Taiwan is America’s unsinkable aircraft carrier”
-General MacArther
@@patriotoverseas It's not a question of willingness, it's a question of territorial sovereignty. If you ask 1.4 billion Chinese what they want, Taiwan has already been attacked 800 times. The Chinese government, on the other hand, has exercised restraint in seeking peaceful reunification without harming civilians.
China is not like what you are talking.
Professor, I am Chinese, but I learned Chinese history from Professor Sach.
But China is not US, China wants every country to have the same rights ,freedom, and prosperity .😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂 like in China
@Revenant76 you are outdated in your brains, China doesn't hegemony other countries and interfered with others' country .
Agree
they don't want to be just like united states. you are not the end of history.
China is harassing ASEAN countries over fishing rights... I dont think so.
What if they want? So don’t have any answer. This is the logic behind Great Power Politics. One has to hedge its bet and proactively prepare for all possibilities.
@@ashkanshekarchi7753 It's self deprecating to want be like United States. It ends very soon. For anyone who read some Chinese philosophy, desperate to be the biggest kid on the block is a stupid idea. 天下所谋。
@@ashkanshekarchi7753 "This is the logic behind Great Power Politics"
... you make it sounds like 'that' is a 'global truth'. is it?
... reminder: EU people evolved in a TINY corner of the world, with scarce resources.
... did EVERYONE evolved that one?
Just like Genghis Khan thought of connecting peacefull trade between the Great Islamic Persia and the Great Jin/Song empire. Drastic things happened. 😅
Good analysis. It is absolutely appalling that US, Japan and Australia would come to help to defence Taiwan if China reunite Taiwan with the mainland. There is absolutely none of their (US, Japan, Australia) business and just stay out of other people's sovereignty issue. And it is even more appalling that the West would embrace the open door NATO policy which it knows will antagonize Russia causing of all kind of human suffering in these countries.
John underestimated the Chinese military Prowess. The US and its allies were defeated by China in the Korean war even when China have not advanced weapons. Now China DF17 can easily sink the US aircraft carrier and kill a few thousand US personnel. Can the US accept this loss. will the US citizen allows their sons to die for Taiwan when 90% of them do not know where Taiwan is on the Map. John is not militarily knowledgeable.
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Taiwan is a Chinese island try to understand
Powers understand only by strength and power, nor logic, legalities, or lecture.
And again, you are speaking of America as a standby and failed to say that America is the mastermind of every instability in Asia and around the world
there has always been a huge flaw in mearsheimer's thinking on china that i dont think he can ever explain. his whole theory on china is that if china becomes a hegemon then china will then run around the world telling other countries what to do like the united states. why would china see what the united states is doing and think "you know this whole hegemon thing is working so great for the united states, i think we'll have a piece of that action as well". china sees that the united states plan for global hegemony is causing it to decline and yet he thinks this is something that china is going to want to do. for a smart guy he's kind of dumb.
i disagree about china wanting to roam freely around the world with their military navy, thats usa
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China is completing a Global ports network for the BRICS economic bloc
China would not imitate the US in blue waters Navy. They would instead develop their fleet of type 55 destroyers which are more agile and flexible to project naval reach and deterrance.
The opinion that US wants to maintain status quo and not provoke China in regards to Taiwan is patently wrong when American bases are being setup in Taiwan.
The problem with John Mearsheimer is that he tries to use a western mindset to understand Chinese thinking, Chinese people is a people that built walls, they want stability and prosperity within their walls, they would rather mind their own business if left alone. the funny thing is, once they reach that goal, they normally don't do very well, when they get too complacent, there are always corruption and in-fighting, and governing become extremely inefficient, however, when there are external threat to their survival, the do bind together for their collective security and become extremely efficient.
You're right. Take the West's Xinjiang narrative for example, it did make the Uyghurs side with the Chinese Nation more firmly in recent years, which is exactly the opposite of what they tried to achieve.
Taiwan is China, China is Taiwan! None of your business and get nicked!
This short-sighted US Prof doesn't even know Taiwanese are Mainland Chinese descendants and how many of them would sacrifice their lives fighting against present-day China's PLA to defend Taiwan's arrogant DPP die-hard Separatists? I predict the American Empire and its World Domination shall its Waterloo over Taiwan
China does not want to be a hegemon like the United States or dominate the world. This perception of China is uniquely Western. You have to know the history of China to know this.
I have my doubts about that. China did sent its fleet all over the world in the times of Zheng He in the 1420s. It was so costly that the next emperor scrapped the whole enterprise fast, it was bankrupting the empire. Same process with the US today.
But China did NOT do that to conquer anyone. They never sought to be a hegemon.
Zheng He's mission was diplomatic in nature, and not like Western colonizers. His ships were laden with gifts while Westerners sought only to take from others.
If it were like the United States today. His Dynasty would not have suffered a great loss. Because Zheng He's fleet would continue to bring resources from overseas.
The difference is that the Chinese went to sea to trade. Sometimes he brought foreign envoys back to the palace to pay their respects. Accordingly, this approach has not been able to support the huge expenditure on the sea. So it was canceled. But the West went to sea differently. They killed, plundered and colonized. They can bring back nearly 600 times more wealth than they spend on each ocean voyage.
The professor is briliant in his analysis but his problem is that his view is formed by the long history of aggressive evading and colonization committed by the West. His geopolitical view may applies to US but not to China. Not once did China invade and colonize Philippines, Malaya,, Korea or Japan. (Mongols are not Chinese). The Confucian Philosophy and the Buddhists teaching are both against such Western behaviors.
China will emerge stronger in time to come. US will debted itself till it broke. Dedollarisation will play a significant part in US downfall. And if there is a breakthrough in new chip technology by China, just like EV cars, Taiwan will not be the fore front in chip production and importance.Taiwan then will be in a dire state. This will happen in 15 to 25 years time.
😂If China desire for the shameless hegemony, Asia would not be called Asia today, but would have been called "China" since thousands of years ago.
粉丝在此，可惜看不到你的新作品了。
The reason China survived so long is because we learned “忘战必危，好战必亡” for over 2000 years。
india survived as well , more older civilisation than chinese
@@AB-mn5re We respect different cultures. But to be honest, Europe got rid of theocracy in the 14th and 15th centuries. India has not escaped the injustice of caste in the 21st century. Not to be derogatory, just to say, don't you think this is a constraint that civilization must get rid of
open door but when Ru asked to join you told them No. tell someone else this bs. Whats the point of NATO if there is no Soviet union(Enemy)?
Cause open door policy is not the real reason of course.
Today it is difficult to project power with military force as seen in the Red Sea where US navy cannot enforce "freedom of navigation". The only way is to be friendly to all countries.
The Question is The US is capable to fight China? US couldn’t even make enough missiles or emanation to continue fighting more than few weeks, all US military bases within 2,500 miles from Chinese coast line will be destroyed in a few hours 😂😂😂😂
Professor, you supposed to be a realism expert!😮😮😮😮
Keen observer of China would differ on Mearsheimer's view that China would be gloating over the Russo-Ukraine war. This is not only a poor rendering of Chinese history and geopolitical perspectives.
Mearsheimer's view is a typical American geopolitical worldview of zero-sum mentality. A sort of de facto play out of historical events among leaders in other countries too. It's also an anathema as well as an antithesis of historicity, diplomacy and state policy governing international relations.
China, having to keep the 1.45 B people moderately well off, is a formidable task. She doesn't want to add more problems to her governance by colonizing a couple of billions more. In fact, there are 650 million chinese to be made moderately wealthy.
In fact, China is still very poor. By 2020, China will be completely rid of poverty. But it just means that everybody has something to eat and doesn't starve to death. But their incomes still have a lot of room to improve. So we still have work to do.
Indeed, Chinese did roam around the world whwn Zhenghe led a fleet that visited Indian coast, Persian gulf and the Red Sea during 15th century multiple times.
24:45. And US promised the same aid to Ukraine too. Now Ukraine's a dump, NATO's drinking their beer
Mr. Mearsheimer's perspective is primarily rooted in a traditional realist approach, typical of Cold War-era thinking, which prioritizes power dynamics and state-centric strategies over nuanced considerations of human culture and societal complexities. This narrow focus constrains his analysis, limiting his ability to fully grasp the depth and diversity of contemporary global issues that require a broader understanding of cultural, social, and historical contexts. As a result, his insights, while strategic, often lack the multidimensional perspective necessary to address the complexities of today's interconnected world.
we more support China Asia. and pacific Asia
Where is the one China policy. U. S. does not keeping their commitment. Talking about experience in wars. Did China fought in the wars in Korea, Vietnam. Why U. S lost the wars
The Jews has been driven out of the places they lived multiple times, while Chinese has been living in the same area forever.
No one talks much about the Indian Navy, is there an Indian navy?
And no one talks about Mongolia Navy as well.
There is a ragtag Indian Navy that can hardly keep afloat. 😂😂😂
What economic interest you have if you keep printing money and not doing anything about it? The World is not stupid.
Perhaps he forgot to mention China’s actions have always been reactive to US, the Philippines and Taiwan provocation.
John, the role model of the US is doomed to fail.
How About PEACE?????
China: 5000 years of wisdom about Empires and Powers
US: 500 years of colonization and invasions
John Mearsheimer: book worm imagining himself as eagle and dragon, at the same time
If Asia joined alliances no one would be able to compete with them economically and pretty well militarily. If Taiwan loses its chip status what interest would the US have in what happens to them???
it is isnt all about tw chips . Tw is unsinkable aircraft carrier for them bcos of its strategic location.
@@nanyanguo1 You are right. Taiwan is acting as a natural blockade to prevent Chinese navy from accessing the Pacific.