With videos like that you dont even need to ask cause ppls that dont like this kind of videos just dont watch it and ppls that like this kind of videos soubskribe before the video start
I was able to unlock them within 3 hours of the games release yes i bought it at midnight on launch day but there not meant for speed they're meant for bragging rights
I’d argue that Bowser on the master cycle, metal wheels, and the hylian kite are worse than what you said was the worst in this video. While its speed is sky high, the abysmal acceleration and handling guarantees you won’t be able to use ANY of that speed since it takes awhile to get to top speed, AND it’s impossible to turn, even while drifting. And if you stop for any reason, whether it be hitting a wall or getting hit by an item, you loose all that speed and have to go through the painful process of building up the speed again. Plus, the hidden mini-turbo stat on the combo is terrible. The mini-turbo barely happens on it. Truth be told, the combo doesn’t work with any character, but bowser amplifies the problems even more with his naturally low acceleration, handling, and mini-turbo. Maybe I’m just bad with bikes, but I swear that bowser on the master cycle with metal wheels and hylian kite is the worst character-kart-combo in the game. It just feels impossible to do anything with that combo.
funnily enough i use bowser on the master cycle with cyber slick and hylian kite and do really well but i always play bowser in every game he's available
The most important in Mario Kart 8 is having fun (and finish on the podium haha), so if you're well with Dry Bones, keep play with him. The most decisive during the race will be your skill, not only "the best combination ever" 😄
Dry Bones isn't the worst, you have to keep in mind that he mostly tested in time trials and isn't used to playing with all the characters. I almost always get into the top 3 in online races with dry Bones and the splat roller.
I've just looked at the list while pausing and unpausing and apparently, (I'm just gonna mention 1 kart/wheel/glider/character for every group) The best kart is the City Tripper, the best wheels are the Standard, the best glider is the MKTV Parafoil, and the best character is Cat Peach (or Yoshi if you want him)
This holds up pretty well statistically. The two most important stats in MarioKart are mini turbo and speed, since they come into play on every track almost constantly during drifts and straightaways. Acceleration and mini turbo are very closely associated, so weighing acceleration was a good idea. In my opinion, the worst combination would be the one with the lowest mini turbo and handling since it makes it impossible to turn effectively, but having worse mini turbo and low top speed is also an effective handicap.
Hey man, this video is super cool! I've got a tip about the audio. When wearing headphones, your voice comes mostly through the left ear. Now, this doesn't really matter in the slightest, and the video is largely unaffected by this, but if you wanted a clearer playback you could try resolving this, I'm sure it's a fairly easy fix. I'm not certain what kind of microphone you used but it seems to be binaural, which is what's giving your voice this lean to the left. If you find the centre of the microphone, you can talk into that and the problem should go away, but there might be the option to switch the input to mono (single audio track) on the microphone. Additionally, most video editing software allows this adjustment too. Again, not super important so don't stress about it or anything. Thanks for da Mario
This, so very much. I might get back to this video on speakers, but right now while on headset something about the left ear thing makes this unwatchable for me! (Or unlistenable, I guess)
The combo isn't even that terrible. Rosalina isn't a super optimal character, but jet bike with standard tires and flower glider gives you a pretty solid overall balance of top speed (13), mini turbo (10) and acceleration (9) for a heavy kart. But Waluigi having all of those in better on his meta setup can be pretty demoralizing. Unfortunately in all possible kart combinations, Rosalina will always be a midfield character in those three stats, pretty good all-around but she doesn't excel in any particular discipline.
And to think, after using the worst possible combination long enough you begin destroying everyone again, imagine the times you could set going back to powerful setups again
That part about handicapping yourself to make races more fair is so relatable to me. I often play this game with my brothers, but their experience stems only from those sessions. I, meanwhile, have beaten every dev time on 150cc. Suffice to say, not a fair fight. Usually, we play in teams, with them in one team and me in the other, and we turn cpus up to hard, but even then, i usually win. Sometimes, i just played entire races with my hands behind my head to make it more fair. UPDATE: did some science with my little brother yesterday. We tried various combinations, and i performed worst with inside-drifting bikes. I know those are the competitive choice, but i am a casual player who only ever uses karts, so inside-drifting bikes always cause me to hit walls. Ergo, in the future, i will only use inside-drifting bikes
@@creeperizak8971 I went into the system settings of my iMac and enabled “Play back stereo audio as mono” found in the accessibility settings (Audio) to fix this problem.
The thing I hate about Mario kart is that characters change your stats so you always see the exact same characters online while feeling weird when you feel like picking another character
I won’t lie, when I first started the video, I was like “oh a kid, I might not watch this…” then I looked again and I had already watched most of the video and had more information dumped on me than most UA-cam videos I have ever watched. Thanks for the content, and amazing editing (seriously, syncing the music with the cuts was great).
Something weird about the game is that all characters are roughly balanced, with Strength / Flaws that compensate each other while having a vast array of stats, and you pick the one that fit your style better. Meanwhile, the kart parts are completely unbalanced while having fewer stats changes. The culprit? Mini-turbo. It over compensates the loss on top Speed, while keeping high Acceleration and Handling. Basically, you are just loosing Weight. But what is the purpose of Weight when you are half a lap in front of each other?
@@josephnoel2868 if you mean recovery as in recovery time after being hit by an item, all that would do in practice is make the acceleration stat effectively worthless.
also the worse your setup is at drifting the better it is at snaking which is also huge for speed although the slower setups tend to be better at drifting so that's counterintuitive as well
@@josephnoel2868 I don't think the mk8d tracks are that optimal for snaking anyway since you can just normally drift through most of them to begin with
I remember trying out the Metal Wheels + Badwagon combo one time online, and I realized how terrible it was REALLY quick lol. Wasn't surprised to see them on here. It truly is a BAD wagon.
1:13 the math was a bit off. The number you got in hours is actually in minutes. So you’d have to divide by 60 one more time to get how many hourse it would take. Just logically it wouldnt make sense that 13000 possibilities would take 16000 hours. Thats over an hour testing per kart
honestly the quality that this video is, and part of the math being so irrelevant to the main point of the video, it seriously doesnt matter how far of he was on that calculation. The point of him saying that was to show how crazy amount of time it would have taken and in my opinion any amount over 10-20 hours is already an example of great dedication to making a video. But i guess nice that your fact checking this for others, thank you
I like how despite this game having a meta as to which character and kart combination is the best I still get an equal amount of wins and loses by just using the standard kart, wheels, and glider set with any character
I also just go full standard, it feels just fine when I'm driving. Well until I get hit by a blue shell, a red shell, a green shell and then also get shocked by last place
Jopes : *spent hours trying to find the worst kart possible but he still won* Me : *searches up a video about the best kart combination and using the worst one from the video*
Finally a system to give more advantage to my friends that have played for 10 minutes MK in their lives, subscribed! Also, your videos are very well made! Keep doing these videos
This video has all information necessary, neatly packaged and just overall great. Not stretched too much like a lot of content unfortunately is these days. Thanks for the great video!
Amazing analysis Jopes, and I'm sure you know this too, that acceleration also determines the hidden mini-turbo stat from drifting too, how fast it charges up for each tier, and how big the boost is from each tier as well. For most of the part. So acceleration is a big factor for going back to full speed and mini-turbos from drifting. This isn't the first Mario Kart game where high acceleration gives you an advantage, on Mario Kart DS, due to the high acceleration and handling of Dry Bomber from Dry Bones or Egg1 from Yoshi, their mini-turbos were overpowered which allowed anyone to drift or snake nonstop on straightaways which most other vehicles could not do. On Mario Kart 64, light weight characters with high acceleration like Toad, Yoshi, or Peach, were OP, while heavy weight characters like Wario or Donkey Kong were awful.
@@Jopes How it works is that the acceleration stat shown on screen incorporates both acceleration and mini-turbo, but the stats are individual. This is also the case for speed and handling incorporating the ground, air, underwater, and anti-gravity components. Source: World Record Progression for Blue Yourself (look it up)
I actually went back to DS to truely complete it, and I also realised that the Dry Bomber’s Acceleration is so good, the Kart can drift off-road. _The Kart Can Drift Off-road._
@@FrostGlader omg, I wish I could play my cart now so much, it got chipped on a really small, seemingly insignificant part and is completely unusable now :(
So you mean to tell me that there's someone out there that applied scientific rigor on their quest to figure out what kart sucks the most in MK8D? All I can say is that you got a sub. Kudos.
I just found your videos on my recommended and I have to say that the "science" of Mario Kart is a topic that definitely wish to see more of on UA-cam. Your Yoshi Valley and Worst Kart Combo are awesome, well-thought out, and very educational. As someone who has performed their own tests on this game I was very happy to see this content on my feed. I would love to see more content as the upcoming Race Pass gets released and hopefully I get to see you do videos on older MK Games.
This channel gonna be huge with your style...once the new tracks start getting released you should review each course similar to your "best route in Yoshis valley" video.
One thing that would probably be good to do is split the inside drifting bikes from the rest of the vehicles in their stat category, since those will take different lines that likely result in different times.
Do. Not. Stop. Making . Videos. You have real talent with your editing and your voice is actually really engaging to an audience. Even if you make these videos for fun, don't stop cause these are skills that will be so helpful to you. Genuinely, great job with you videos and your channel, please don't stop and please keep learning and developing. You're going places!
Love the quality! My main criticisms would be to balance the audio so your voice comes from both ears of a headset, and to maybe get a cheap pop filter to help prevent breathing into the microphone like from the 'P' in 'pro controllers' at 0:37
This channel feels so humble. The vids are so well made and has so much passion behind it, but there’s very clear room to grow into your content as a whole.
I appreciate the detail in the testing and explanation! My solution to the being better than all my friends issue was to start playing with one handed tilt controls
I'm literally stuck to the screen watching your videos! - The're informative - They do NOT get boring (since you speed up the testing parts) - And you explain things fairly simple Keep this up buddy, for real! You will be HUGE in no time. Regards Lukas
I've always gone maximum acceleration and minimum speed in this game and I'm typically miles ahead. I found speed not as useful in this game as it was in 7 or Wii
It’s much more broken on 200cc cuz max speed makes it hard for you to hit drifts on some of the tighter maps. I ran 200cc time trials on tick tock clock an physically could not drift in some of the turns with a speed favored build. Plus, if you consider you’re getting hit by items constantly, being able to hit max speed quickly is very useful.
The most difficult setup I've used is maximum speed with minimum acceleration and handling. You go way too fast for tight corners, but maybe there's a learning curve
This would only be really accurate if you raced exactly the same way every time, as you're bound to do better as you practice the track/use combinations you're more familiar with. I guess the only way to do that is by programing the inputs to beat the level into something automated.
You could calculate the pareto efficiency of each build, which would give you a selection of the builds which over the worst trade offs. Then you just pick the kart you would have the most trouble racing with.
Okay, but if you played the exact same way, then some combinations might go off road, because of some being faster or slower than others, and the way bikes drift.
This has been in my recommended for a couple days and I'm glad I finally decided to give it a watch! Your effort put into this video really seems to have paid off! I was intrigued the entire time and most definitely want to watch more of your content!
When you look back at the original Mario Kart 8, almost every vehicle part had some degree of viability. The only true exceptions were the Monster and Hot Monster tires, due to how expendable the traction stat was, AND the Metal and Gold Tires were superior for not only offering the same weight boost, but also a ground speed boost. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, however, was one big mess when it came to stat distribution, seeing as just about any vehicle part that did not boost acceleration was pretty much considered garbage. Even the Master Cycle became a complete joke, and that was a vehicle body that was pretty good in the original Wii U game.
I've always used Dry Bones with the GLA, and now I've been told that both are in the lowest tiers 🤣 No wonder getting 3 stars on all cups in 200CC was such a pain
I usually use dry bones, but with the city tripper and some speedy wheels. I usually get top 3. Great handling and great for drifting to speed up more, and a glider that has decent speed.
1) If I remember correctly, everything in MK8D is much better balanced than what it was in the Wii U MK8. If you want to, I implore you to try to find that game’s worst kart combination. 2) I feel like performance in an online race is more influenced by the player skill, opponent skill, and item RNG than just a kart’s raw stats. 3) audio balancing is my passion
@@antt2228 The Standard ATV actually had some viability when it came to underwater segments. But it would be considered a bad move to pair that body with the babies, along with the Monster or Hot Monster tires; below average speed and acceleration is never a good mix. As for the Wild Wiggler, it had the same stats as the Pipe Frame and Standard Bike.
Love the video, I have one thing that might not be of influence as you tried every part 3x, but the coins might have had an influence on your results, they give a slight boost when collected and increase your max speed (up to 10 coins).
First, really impressed with the content so far! its hard for new content creators to stand out and you seem to have a solid voice to your videos even though you are relatively new! Second, as you love Mario Kart, and are clearly not afraid of a deep dive i have an idea to run past you: Something that I haven't seen people touch on in these deep dives into the DLC Courses and Cups, is the escalating nature of the courses in the cup itself. Mario kart Cups have a flow to them, moving up in difficulty through the cup so that more straightforward levels are at the start and more complex levels are at the end. They actually tend to follow the Japanese story style of Kishōtenketsu which is told in 4 parts; Introduction, Development, Twist, Conclusion. Think about Mushroom Cup in Kart 8, you start at Mario Kart Stadium (Introduction, fairly generic, teaching you what to expect) move to Water Park (Development, Builds on the foundation of Stadium, modifies slightly) On to Sweet Sweet Canyon (TWIST, a major shift in the landscape of the course, unexpected maybe, but it still makes sense in the context) and end on Thwamp Ruins (Conclusion, with all you have learned you are now ready for the hardest track in this cup). And this seems to be the way each cup is relatively structured (some more so than others): Flower Cup; Mario Circut (Intro) Toad Harbor (Develop) Twisted Mansion (Twist) Shy Guy Falls (Conclusion/Mastery). Star Cup; Sunshine Airport (Intro) Dolphin Shoals (Develop) Electrodrome (Twist) Mount Wario (Conclusion/Mastery). Special Cup; Cloudtop Cruise (intro)Bone Dry Dunes (Develop) Bowser's Castle (Twist) Rainbow Road (Conclusion/Mastery). You get the idea... This means that if we are to break down the incoming tracks into 4 groups of 12 (all the intro style courses, what courses can be used to develop, what courses are a twist but still make sense with context, and Mastery levels) we would have a better idea of what is coming. so let's look at the Golden Shroom Cup: Paris Promenade (Intro) a pretty straightforward track, makes sense as an intro Toad Circuit (Development) pretty straightforward as well, arguably slightly more complex than Paris, has some interesting height changes due to a jump and a tunnel Choco Mountain (Twist) a classic twist, this level is fairly straight forward but it adds cliffs you can fall off if you aren't careful, and falling boulders Coconut Mall (Conclusion/Mastery) a level that has a tighter feel, multiple split courses where you can go up or down elevators, and choices to make along the way, feels pretty masterful in comparison to Paris and Toad's in particular. I would love to see you break down the classic courses and the tour courses with this in mind! Also the use of Kishōtenketsu in Nintendo games is well known, and I highly recommend watching Game Maker Tool Kit's "Super Mario 3D World's 4 Step Level Design" as a good break down on the concept!
You're going places, my friend. This was so well researched and for such a humanitarian purpose of giving your friends a handicap XD. Hope you enjoy the Booster Course Pass DLC.
My main has been the badwagon and standard glider for quite a while now, mostly due to aesthetics. This video probably won't change anything as I love the kart and am already second best in my friend group. Definitely interesting thought!
I have always had this issue but my solution for my friends was surprisingly simple: I simply am not allowed to press the item button still its cool to see this and plan to try it out with them! thanks for all the time it took to test all this
Coin collecting should of been taken into account with every test since it affects the speed of the racer depending on how many coins are collected. I believe that in each test a different amount of coins were collected each time making the results slightly off from one another. Great video tho!
Just wanted to say that you seem to have a good handle on the volume of the background music even without all the criticism from the video that’s popular now (as this was posted before a majority of those comments). I’m excited to see what you’ll post when the dlc comes out :) Subscribed
I read an article awhile back that said Baby Rosalina in the Badwagon with the Slick tires and the Peach Parasol was the worst combination, it was found using hidden stats from the games files which were visible in an online kart constructing site that allowed up to 3 combinations to be compared at once. I am now curious to see if the results of this video are any worse in terms of driving.
This reminds me of one time years ago, I was playing Double Dash with some friends. One friend was maybe a little bit better than me at DD, so we kept trading first and second place. Our other two friends didn't really play that much, so they were having a rough time. We decided we'd play a 2 player cart (which neither of us had ever done before) to try and give them a chance. It didn't work. We still won.
Excellent video! Though I recommend balancing your stereo audio or just setting your voice audio to mono if necessary. The one-sided audio is likely a mic setting issue.
4:32 If this also takes into account, When you are dropped by lakitu after falling off of a cliff you don't get the acceleration boost like in Mario kart wii and other games, also you can't hold the brake and the acceleration button to get a Mini boost anymore. Furthermore 10 coins will add 10% to your top speed so it also depends on how many coins you have. Not sure if this applies but just wanted to mention it. Also did you try this with golden Mario or the golden throttle? Those also have different attributes.
As someone who tends to be on the better end when playing games with family, I can totally relate to wanting to find a way to make yourself weaker while keeping it fun. In the past when I played Duck Game I would ban myself from using guns and would primarily use the boxes to kill people (only when possible of course). I still won most of the time, but it made things far more even. Plus, there are the bragging rights you get from beating someone while under a major handicap.
Tip for anyone like me who has sensory issues regarding not having equal audio in both ears: If you are on an iPhone, you can go into your settings app, click on Accessibility, click on Audio/Visual, and then toggle the Mono Audio to be on! It’s a life saver for when you find videos like this that you really want to watch but don’t want to have a meltdown because of unbalanced audio lol. Happy watching!
Pisses me off that android doesn't have that feature for some reason. So many times my earphones have died in one ear, and I just want to hear all the sound, but the pan ruins music and video games because I can only hear one side.
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but you sound very young - if your writing and delivery is this clear and concise, and your editing is this sharp, in middle school(?), I can't imagine how phenomenal your stuff will be in a few years with more experience and better equipment. Keep grinding Jopes, I think you've got a bright future in content creation!
This was soooo helpful thank you!! I’m trying to play with my nephew and I’m not good but it’s just not fair, so I’ve been wondering how to handicap myself. Liked and subbed as thank you for the time consuming work you put in! Thanks!!
soubskribe plz
Sure I will
Already am!
im subsribed already!
With videos like that you dont even need to ask cause ppls that dont like this kind of videos just dont watch it and ppls that like this kind of videos soubskribe before the video start
Yep
There’s no greater flex than “I’m so good that I had to handicap myself by using the worst combo possible which I found using science.”
And you still win
You speaking facts man, and the flex becomes even bigger if you win!
Physics
I have to do it with my family… *and i still win*
I’ve won but at what cost
The golden wheels being the worst is so hilarious to me. Imagine grinding at the game only to get some of the worst wheels in the game.
I was able to unlock them within 3 hours of the games release yes i bought it at midnight on launch day but there not meant for speed they're meant for bragging rights
And plus gold is very heavy so of course speed was never an option
I don't have to imagine (=
Yeah but the fabulous and bad financial decision stat levels are off the charts!
Still stomp kids online with them lmao
As a Dry Bones main that last bit killed me inside a little more.
Dry bones will always be my fav lol
same 😭
SAME
i always played the atv, metal wheels and standard glider. I was already on the ground but at least my shy guy wasnt humiliated as well 😩
Odyssey Central is fuming!
"Dry Bones is the worst driver"
Me, who's been maining Dry Bones since DS: :(
Don't worry, i have mained dry bones for years and still crush friends and get half a lap ahead using him. DON'T LET THE DRY BONES FANDOM DIE
Makes me feel better about setting time trial records with him my friends have given up on beating.
At least you can do some fun things with him on 200cc
Thats just playing on hard mode
Dont worry. I main Baby Luigi all the time and rarely get below top 3 in 150cc
Love how the badwagon is the worst kart, lol
edit: the video also discusses worst wheels, gliders, and characters, along with the method for testing.
yeah i thought that was kinda funny
It's name has a reason lol
Welp I’m gonna try this combination with my friends and I’m sure they will still lose because they are worse then the bad wagon
@@thirdbit7350 Same here
@@NinetyLegos same
I’d argue that Bowser on the master cycle, metal wheels, and the hylian kite are worse than what you said was the worst in this video. While its speed is sky high, the abysmal acceleration and handling guarantees you won’t be able to use ANY of that speed since it takes awhile to get to top speed, AND it’s impossible to turn, even while drifting. And if you stop for any reason, whether it be hitting a wall or getting hit by an item, you loose all that speed and have to go through the painful process of building up the speed again. Plus, the hidden mini-turbo stat on the combo is terrible.
The mini-turbo barely happens on it. Truth be told, the combo doesn’t work with any character, but bowser amplifies the problems even more with his naturally low acceleration, handling, and mini-turbo. Maybe I’m just bad with bikes, but I swear that bowser on the master cycle with metal wheels and hylian kite is the worst character-kart-combo in the game. It just feels impossible to do anything with that combo.
Inward drifts make it even worse cuz I believe almost everyone uses outward drift.
I honestly was just about to mention this myself. This combo is just absolute dogwater and trying to just TURN is a pain in the ass.
Replace bowser with Morton and it gets worse than you think (even tho bowser and Morton have the same stats
Now I wanna see this
funnily enough i use bowser on the master cycle with cyber slick and hylian kite and do really well but i always play bowser in every game he's available
“Dry Bones is the worst character”
That won’t stop me from driving in the Biddibug Kart with Dry Bones whenever I play the game in… who knows when
The most important in Mario Kart 8 is having fun (and finish on the podium haha), so if you're well with Dry Bones, keep play with him. The most decisive during the race will be your skill, not only "the best combination ever" 😄
That's a good combination
When the next dlc comes out lol
So you're telling me my favourite from DS has finally returned in Deluxe after being gone in MK8 and he's the worst? That won't stop me, though
Dry Bones isn't the worst, you have to keep in mind that he mostly tested in time trials and isn't used to playing with all the characters. I almost always get into the top 3 in online races with dry Bones and the splat roller.
The worst kart possible in this game is actually any card combination I use (i am very bad at the game)
it don't matter what the worst kart combo is, me and my past self would just barely get a passing place in 200cc
The best I can do is 7th on online
I mean you’d be doing pretty bad if you were playing Mario kart with cards
you fell off
Same I severely lost to someone who put the controller down and wasn’t playing
You should release the full results on like a Google Docs or something! I'd love to see the full total points attributed to everything.
I've just looked at the list while pausing and unpausing and apparently, (I'm just gonna mention 1 kart/wheel/glider/character for every group)
The best kart is the City Tripper, the best wheels are the Standard, the best glider is the MKTV Parafoil, and the best character is Cat Peach (or Yoshi if you want him)
@@pizzastudio23 yay im a yoshi main
@@gamealpha99 yoshi is cool
These in-depth Mario kart videos are very well put together and thought out! Props on the dedication, a very interesting watch 😄
Crouton
Hey Croton
Your pfp looks like one Chuggaaconroy would use
@@james.8202 His name is crouton
@@Masckerdoom I know, the pfp is a C because his name also starts with a C, but it looked really similar
For someone that sounds like he is 13, this was really well written, researched, and presented. Excellent work!
This isn't good for someone that young. This is just plain good
I thought it was an older female. They sound a lot like Jaiden Animations.
@@somejock4396 Yeah this voice makes me imagine like a 22 year old woman.
Reminds me of Lycel.
Oh... damn. I didn't know. Well this is awkward.
This holds up pretty well statistically. The two most important stats in MarioKart are mini turbo and speed, since they come into play on every track almost constantly during drifts and straightaways. Acceleration and mini turbo are very closely associated, so weighing acceleration was a good idea. In my opinion, the worst combination would be the one with the lowest mini turbo and handling since it makes it impossible to turn effectively, but having worse mini turbo and low top speed is also an effective handicap.
Hey man, this video is super cool! I've got a tip about the audio. When wearing headphones, your voice comes mostly through the left ear. Now, this doesn't really matter in the slightest, and the video is largely unaffected by this, but if you wanted a clearer playback you could try resolving this, I'm sure it's a fairly easy fix. I'm not certain what kind of microphone you used but it seems to be binaural, which is what's giving your voice this lean to the left. If you find the centre of the microphone, you can talk into that and the problem should go away, but there might be the option to switch the input to mono (single audio track) on the microphone. Additionally, most video editing software allows this adjustment too. Again, not super important so don't stress about it or anything. Thanks for da Mario
This, so very much. I might get back to this video on speakers, but right now while on headset something about the left ear thing makes this unwatchable for me! (Or unlistenable, I guess)
you can also just change the microphone audio recording to mono or change all the audio to mono
I thought my right headphone had died lol
You said it so politely it makes me, a random viewer, feel safe lol
@@21dayjac I just moved mine slightly off my left ear and that balanced it.
Great video! Very thorough.
Ah, I see even beeg youtubers are drawn towards good content through the almighty algorithm
broooooooo, i loved your videos as a kid
I’m still going to play Rosalina with that jet shaped bike just cause how cool it looks. I hate that the blooper wagon has the best stats in the game.
#Rosalinagang
The combo isn't even that terrible. Rosalina isn't a super optimal character, but jet bike with standard tires and flower glider gives you a pretty solid overall balance of top speed (13), mini turbo (10) and acceleration (9) for a heavy kart. But Waluigi having all of those in better on his meta setup can be pretty demoralizing. Unfortunately in all possible kart combinations, Rosalina will always be a midfield character in those three stats, pretty good all-around but she doesn't excel in any particular discipline.
Reppin' Rosie all DAY
@@SethAbercromby Frick the meta. Mario games are for fun
I love how this is basically just 7 minutes of you creatively roasting your friends/showing off your Mario kart skills
jopes really said "I wanna nerf myself because I love my friends" and I think that's beautiful
And to think, after using the worst possible combination long enough you begin destroying everyone again, imagine the times you could set going back to powerful setups again
That part about handicapping yourself to make races more fair is so relatable to me. I often play this game with my brothers, but their experience stems only from those sessions. I, meanwhile, have beaten every dev time on 150cc. Suffice to say, not a fair fight. Usually, we play in teams, with them in one team and me in the other, and we turn cpus up to hard, but even then, i usually win. Sometimes, i just played entire races with my hands behind my head to make it more fair.
UPDATE: did some science with my little brother yesterday. We tried various combinations, and i performed worst with inside-drifting bikes. I know those are the competitive choice, but i am a casual player who only ever uses karts, so inside-drifting bikes always cause me to hit walls. Ergo, in the future, i will only use inside-drifting bikes
my relatives are so fucking bad at video games i often have to 1v4 them for them to still lose
Does playing with your hands behind your head really change anything?
@@mitchelltol6258 well, i still won, so apparently not. Made my arms hurt though.
Too good to play games with my friends.
Too bad to play games online.
Suffering.
@@aprinnyonbreak1290 exactly my problem
3:57 holy crap that’s some good editing! It’s so seamless AND syncs with the music!
ty, i worked for a while on that :)
If the editing is so good then why is her voice only making my left ear bleed?
@@creeperizak8971 I went into the system settings of my iMac and enabled “Play back stereo audio as mono” found in the accessibility settings (Audio) to fix this problem.
@@gowildler right right, I'll just install an imac's OS on my phone so I can use this trick, no biggie
@@creeperizak8971 That's not a girl, it's a young boy that didn't hit puberty yet
The thing I hate about Mario kart is that characters change your stats so you always see the exact same characters online while feeling weird when you feel like picking another character
It can also feel weird picking the same character as everyone else lol, but because you like that character and not for the stats
I won’t lie, when I first started the video, I was like “oh a kid, I might not watch this…” then I looked again and I had already watched most of the video and had more information dumped on me than most UA-cam videos I have ever watched. Thanks for the content, and amazing editing (seriously, syncing the music with the cuts was great).
I felt the same way. I was honestly shocked over how good this video is.
Kid did legitimate science. And the presentation was very well done.
Idk what's so wrong about having a kid create a video also I didn't even know this was a kid when I first watched it tbh
How can you tell age from just a voice? I can't even tell their gender from it. Not that that's a bad thing, I'm actually envious in that regard.
fr I went from "oh a kid, this will prob be bad" to being really invested in the video. Hes actually a pretty good and funny creator
Something weird about the game is that all characters are roughly balanced, with Strength / Flaws that compensate each other while having a vast array of stats, and you pick the one that fit your style better. Meanwhile, the kart parts are completely unbalanced while having fewer stats changes. The culprit? Mini-turbo. It over compensates the loss on top Speed, while keeping high Acceleration and Handling. Basically, you are just loosing Weight. But what is the purpose of Weight when you are half a lap in front of each other?
Really "recovery" should be a separate stat from acceleration. Would correct this issue
@@josephnoel2868 if you mean recovery as in recovery time after being hit by an item, all that would do in practice is make the acceleration stat effectively worthless.
also the worse your setup is at drifting the better it is at snaking which is also huge for speed although the slower setups tend to be better at drifting so that's counterintuitive as well
@@Nick-ci8ve I can't stand the snaking style anyway. I wish they'd broken it years ago. Just not fun to play imo but I get stomped by ppl using it
@@josephnoel2868 I don't think the mk8d tracks are that optimal for snaking anyway since you can just normally drift through most of them to begin with
I remember trying out the Metal Wheels + Badwagon combo one time online, and I realized how terrible it was REALLY quick lol. Wasn't surprised to see them on here. It truly is a BAD wagon.
1:13 the math was a bit off. The number you got in hours is actually in minutes. So you’d have to divide by 60 one more time to get how many hourse it would take. Just logically it wouldnt make sense that 13000 possibilities would take 16000 hours. Thats over an hour testing per kart
Did that real quick and got a little under 267 hours. Not quite as ridiculously long, but still pretty crazy.
honestly the quality that this video is, and part of the math being so irrelevant to the main point of the video, it seriously doesnt matter how far of he was on that calculation. The point of him saying that was to show how crazy amount of time it would have taken and in my opinion any amount over 10-20 hours is already an example of great dedication to making a video. But i guess nice that your fact checking this for others, thank you
@@fronk9547 ??? Are you trying to sound passive aggressive?
@@leaffinite2001 LMAO
@@leaffinite2001 what? no lmao
I like how despite this game having a meta as to which character and kart combination is the best I still get an equal amount of wins and loses by just using the standard kart, wheels, and glider set with any character
I also just go full standard, it feels just fine when I'm driving. Well until I get hit by a blue shell, a red shell, a green shell and then also get shocked by last place
I’m blown away by how professional this video is. Good job
Jopes : *spent hours trying to find the worst kart possible but he still won*
Me : *searches up a video about the best kart combination and using the worst one from the video*
@Obito Uchiha just don't pick the golden parts :P
i feel offended- i always use two of the worst karts and two of the worst gliders back and forth 😭😭😭😭😭
@@MarioCorey In the end, your combination doesn't matter. All that matters is that you have fun.
Finally a system to give more advantage to my friends that have played for 10 minutes MK in their lives, subscribed!
Also, your videos are very well made! Keep doing these videos
This video has all information necessary, neatly packaged and just overall great. Not stretched too much like a lot of content unfortunately is these days. Thanks for the great video!
Amazing analysis Jopes, and I'm sure you know this too, that acceleration also determines the hidden mini-turbo stat from drifting too, how fast it charges up for each tier, and how big the boost is from each tier as well. For most of the part. So acceleration is a big factor for going back to full speed and mini-turbos from drifting. This isn't the first Mario Kart game where high acceleration gives you an advantage, on Mario Kart DS, due to the high acceleration and handling of Dry Bomber from Dry Bones or Egg1 from Yoshi, their mini-turbos were overpowered which allowed anyone to drift or snake nonstop on straightaways which most other vehicles could not do. On Mario Kart 64, light weight characters with high acceleration like Toad, Yoshi, or Peach, were OP, while heavy weight characters like Wario or Donkey Kong were awful.
i actually didn't know this, i was getting all my information from the Mario kart wiki, which has individual data for acceleration and mini-turbo.
@@Jopes How it works is that the acceleration stat shown on screen incorporates both acceleration and mini-turbo, but the stats are individual. This is also the case for speed and handling incorporating the ground, air, underwater, and anti-gravity components.
Source: World Record Progression for Blue Yourself (look it up)
I actually went back to DS to truely complete it, and I also realised that the Dry Bomber’s Acceleration is so good, the Kart can drift off-road.
_The Kart Can Drift Off-road._
I had no idea about this
@@FrostGlader omg, I wish I could play my cart now so much, it got chipped on a really small, seemingly insignificant part and is completely unusable now :(
So you mean to tell me that there's someone out there that applied scientific rigor on their quest to figure out what kart sucks the most in MK8D?
All I can say is that you got a sub. Kudos.
My Right Ear Really Enjoyed This Video
I just found your videos on my recommended and I have to say that the "science" of Mario Kart is a topic that definitely wish to see more of on UA-cam. Your Yoshi Valley and Worst Kart Combo are awesome, well-thought out, and very educational. As someone who has performed their own tests on this game I was very happy to see this content on my feed. I would love to see more content as the upcoming Race Pass gets released and hopefully I get to see you do videos on older MK Games.
This channel gonna be huge with your style...once the new tracks start getting released you should review each course similar to your "best route in Yoshis valley" video.
i think im gonna do a combined video with multiple dlc tracks (ninja hideaway, coconut mall, ect.)
Do it! I love Mario Kart content dispite not being all that great at playing it, I'm the same way with Smash Bros *oops*
One thing that would probably be good to do is split the inside drifting bikes from the rest of the vehicles in their stat category, since those will take different lines that likely result in different times.
Do. Not. Stop. Making . Videos. You have real talent with your editing and your voice is actually really engaging to an audience. Even if you make these videos for fun, don't stop cause these are skills that will be so helpful to you. Genuinely, great job with you videos and your channel, please don't stop and please keep learning and developing. You're going places!
nice editing! However, the voice-over audio only comes out of the left speaker, something to keep in mind for future videos
No, it's just louder in the left speaker
@@FarzynoMusic I mean, that's still bad. The only videos that should have binaural audio are ASMR
@@lukasoliverleo3730 or music
i listen with 1 ear off, so i didnt notice anything lol
I didn't even notice that because my headset is already louder on the left side than the right
My left ear enjoyed this video.
Love the quality! My main criticisms would be to balance the audio so your voice comes from both ears of a headset, and to maybe get a cheap pop filter to help prevent breathing into the microphone like from the 'P' in 'pro controllers' at 0:37
Literally shove a sock on it and it would sound a little better
My left ear died at the start
🤓
I have no idea why, but I personally love the unprofessionalism of the popping sounds. That's definitely just a me problem though
This channel feels so humble. The vids are so well made and has so much passion behind it, but there’s very clear room to grow into your content as a whole.
I appreciate the detail in the testing and explanation! My solution to the being better than all my friends issue was to start playing with one handed tilt controls
I'm literally stuck to the screen watching your videos!
- The're informative
- They do NOT get boring (since you speed up the testing parts)
- And you explain things fairly simple
Keep this up buddy, for real! You will be HUGE in no time.
Regards Lukas
It's such a good example of the scientific method
I've always gone maximum acceleration and minimum speed in this game and I'm typically miles ahead. I found speed not as useful in this game as it was in 7 or Wii
Acceleration is SO op in this game
That's good to know, I always build karts for speed since most of my knowledge is from mk wii.
Especially on 200 cc.
It’s much more broken on 200cc cuz max speed makes it hard for you to hit drifts on some of the tighter maps. I ran 200cc time trials on tick tock clock an physically could not drift in some of the turns with a speed favored build. Plus, if you consider you’re getting hit by items constantly, being able to hit max speed quickly is very useful.
It looks like a disaster and performs like a disaster. Perfection! 👌
It's always nice to see this... but then I'm reminded of the soul-sucking landscape that is competitive mario kart
When recording your audio or editing, set your Audio channel to mono instead of stereo. That'll fix your mic being in the left ear only!
i didnt notice cause i only have a left earbud ;-;
@@lilotllll It would’ve been amazing only having the right earbud and wondering why there’s no commentary
Oh thank god I saw this comment thought my hearing was all fucky
@@AllzoyJust finished watching the video with only right earbud, that’s odd
@@wiisaidhi7679 You can make the sound come out of both in UA-cam’s setting.
Puberty hit this guy like a truck
The most difficult setup I've used is maximum speed with minimum acceleration and handling. You go way too fast for tight corners, but maybe there's a learning curve
That's where the break button comes in
@@salty_3k506
Braking is hard though
@@teenageghost044 That's the point. But with some time and effort you can master it.
Find a better drive line, strategically give up tighter corner speed boost. It works, hard to nail on 150 tho
Imagine braking when you can drift
-Trackmania chads
I haven’t seen your videos in a minute! Wasn’t too long ago when you were at 10k
This would only be really accurate if you raced exactly the same way every time, as you're bound to do better as you practice the track/use combinations you're more familiar with. I guess the only way to do that is by programing the inputs to beat the level into something automated.
You could calculate the pareto efficiency of each build, which would give you a selection of the builds which over the worst trade offs. Then you just pick the kart you would have the most trouble racing with.
Okay, but if you played the exact same way, then some combinations might go off road, because of some being faster or slower than others, and the way bikes drift.
This has been in my recommended for a couple days and I'm glad I finally decided to give it a watch! Your effort put into this video really seems to have paid off! I was intrigued the entire time and most definitely want to watch more of your content!
baller video tbh. every time I rewatch it I get terrified because your voice sounded IDENTICAL to mine when you made this
That was a really good video! Keep up the great work, you've got talent! I soubskibed!
I love videos that have a "Trust me this isn't stupid" label, they're always fun
This is awesome, you did such a good job with the research and testing.
Kid, you’re crazy in the best way possible. Just watched all your stuff, made my day :)
When you look back at the original Mario Kart 8, almost every vehicle part had some degree of viability. The only true exceptions were the Monster and Hot Monster tires, due to how expendable the traction stat was, AND the Metal and Gold Tires were superior for not only offering the same weight boost, but also a ground speed boost.
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, however, was one big mess when it came to stat distribution, seeing as just about any vehicle part that did not boost acceleration was pretty much considered garbage. Even the Master Cycle became a complete joke, and that was a vehicle body that was pretty good in the original Wii U game.
0:10
"I always win"
Me: *finally, a worthy opponent, our battle will be legendary!*
I love how your vids don't beat around the bush with any aspects at all, keep it up :)
only at the start of this but the fact that you've considered how to make things as fun for your friends as possible shows that you are a good friend
Thanks, now my siblings stand a chance against me in Mario kart.
I've always used Dry Bones with the GLA, and now I've been told that both are in the lowest tiers 🤣
No wonder getting 3 stars on all cups in 200CC was such a pain
lol
I always play baby Mario and get 1 place and play the complete Standart cart and thought the same lmao
I love my boy Dry Bones but I can only ever use him in Mario Party because his stats in everything else suck consistently lol
I usually use dry bones, but with the city tripper and some speedy wheels. I usually get top 3. Great handling and great for drifting to speed up more, and a glider that has decent speed.
look on the bright side, you 3 starred all the cups in 200cc with the worst setup possible
now THAT is a legendary feat
1) If I remember correctly, everything in MK8D is much better balanced than what it was in the Wii U MK8. If you want to, I implore you to try to find that game’s worst kart combination.
2) I feel like performance in an online race is more influenced by the player skill, opponent skill, and item RNG than just a kart’s raw stats.
3) audio balancing is my passion
Are the changes from the Wii U version major?
@@SSJPENGUIN they are pretty significant if I remember correctly; ATVs used to be absolutely terrible
@@antt2228 no wonder. you can't ride A TV. you need a car.
@@Majora404err01r 😆
@@antt2228 The Standard ATV actually had some viability when it came to underwater segments. But it would be considered a bad move to pair that body with the babies, along with the Monster or Hot Monster tires; below average speed and acceleration is never a good mix. As for the Wild Wiggler, it had the same stats as the Pipe Frame and Standard Bike.
There is no greater flex than playing as Gold Mario in the Gold Standard, with Gold Wheels on the kart, and souring in the sky with the Gold Glider.
Love the video, I have one thing that might not be of influence as you tried every part 3x, but the coins might have had an influence on your results, they give a slight boost when collected and increase your max speed (up to 10 coins).
First, really impressed with the content so far! its hard for new content creators to stand out and you seem to have a solid voice to your videos even though you are relatively new!
Second, as you love Mario Kart, and are clearly not afraid of a deep dive i have an idea to run past you:
Something that I haven't seen people touch on in these deep dives into the DLC Courses and Cups, is the escalating nature of the courses in the cup itself. Mario kart Cups have a flow to them, moving up in difficulty through the cup so that more straightforward levels are at the start and more complex levels are at the end. They actually tend to follow the Japanese story style of Kishōtenketsu which is told in 4 parts; Introduction, Development, Twist, Conclusion. Think about Mushroom Cup in Kart 8, you start at Mario Kart Stadium (Introduction, fairly generic, teaching you what to expect) move to Water Park (Development, Builds on the foundation of Stadium, modifies slightly) On to Sweet Sweet Canyon (TWIST, a major shift in the landscape of the course, unexpected maybe, but it still makes sense in the context) and end on Thwamp Ruins (Conclusion, with all you have learned you are now ready for the hardest track in this cup). And this seems to be the way each cup is relatively structured (some more so than others):
Flower Cup; Mario Circut (Intro) Toad Harbor (Develop) Twisted Mansion (Twist) Shy Guy Falls (Conclusion/Mastery).
Star Cup; Sunshine Airport (Intro) Dolphin Shoals (Develop) Electrodrome (Twist) Mount Wario (Conclusion/Mastery).
Special Cup; Cloudtop Cruise (intro)Bone Dry Dunes (Develop) Bowser's Castle (Twist) Rainbow Road (Conclusion/Mastery).
You get the idea...
This means that if we are to break down the incoming tracks into 4 groups of 12 (all the intro style courses, what courses can be used to develop, what courses are a twist but still make sense with context, and Mastery levels) we would have a better idea of what is coming. so let's look at the Golden Shroom Cup:
Paris Promenade (Intro) a pretty straightforward track, makes sense as an intro
Toad Circuit (Development) pretty straightforward as well, arguably slightly more complex than Paris, has some interesting height changes due to a jump and a tunnel
Choco Mountain (Twist) a classic twist, this level is fairly straight forward but it adds cliffs you can fall off if you aren't careful, and falling boulders
Coconut Mall (Conclusion/Mastery) a level that has a tighter feel, multiple split courses where you can go up or down elevators, and choices to make along the way, feels pretty masterful in comparison to Paris and Toad's in particular.
I would love to see you break down the classic courses and the tour courses with this in mind! Also the use of Kishōtenketsu in Nintendo games is well known, and I highly recommend watching Game Maker Tool Kit's "Super Mario 3D World's 4 Step Level Design" as a good break down on the concept!
This is just a big flex turned into a video
Terrific job on the video! Keep up the great work. Finding the worst kart in Mario Kart is incredibly fun.
You're going places, my friend. This was so well researched and for such a humanitarian purpose of giving your friends a handicap XD. Hope you enjoy the Booster Course Pass DLC.
My main has been the badwagon and standard glider for quite a while now, mostly due to aesthetics. This video probably won't change anything as I love the kart and am already second best in my friend group. Definitely interesting thought!
I have always had this issue but my solution for my friends was surprisingly simple: I simply am not allowed to press the item button
still its cool to see this and plan to try it out with them! thanks for all the time it took to test all this
Coin collecting should of been taken into account with every test since it affects the speed of the racer depending on how many coins are collected. I believe that in each test a different amount of coins were collected each time making the results slightly off from one another. Great video tho!
man i love listening to people talk through my left ear only.
Just wanted to say that you seem to have a good handle on the volume of the background music even without all the criticism from the video that’s popular now (as this was posted before a majority of those comments). I’m excited to see what you’ll post when the dlc comes out :) Subscribed
I read an article awhile back that said Baby Rosalina in the Badwagon with the Slick tires and the Peach Parasol was the worst combination, it was found using hidden stats from the games files which were visible in an online kart constructing site that allowed up to 3 combinations to be compared at once. I am now curious to see if the results of this video are any worse in terms of driving.
"I am too good at Mario Kart"
*Playes 150cc💀💀*
This reminds me of one time years ago, I was playing Double Dash with some friends. One friend was maybe a little bit better than me at DD, so we kept trading first and second place. Our other two friends didn't really play that much, so they were having a rough time. We decided we'd play a 2 player cart (which neither of us had ever done before) to try and give them a chance. It didn't work. We still won.
That was really smooth editing there when you were switching the drivers and parts around while testing on the track
5:47 Odyssey Central's gonna be MAD
Ye.
Alternative title: “Not to flex, but I need genuine de-buffs for my friends to stand a chance at winning against me in Mario Kart”
i discovered your channel today, your videos are so amazing :D
i watched all of them and im looking forward to watching even more!
Same for me!
You sir, have just earned another subscriber
Excellent video! Though I recommend balancing your stereo audio or just setting your voice audio to mono if necessary. The one-sided audio is likely a mic setting issue.
If you decide to try this again for whatever reason, do keep in mind that coins boost your max speed. That is another thing to factor in.
lol they changed every stat you have to do this again
For the amount of work put into this, this deserves a lot more views and likes
2:48 the cuts in time to the music is too fun
Most important in racing games
1. Top speed
2. Acceleration
4:32 If this also takes into account, When you are dropped by lakitu after falling off of a cliff you don't get the acceleration boost like in Mario kart wii and other games, also you can't hold the brake and the acceleration button to get a Mini boost anymore. Furthermore 10 coins will add 10% to your top speed so it also depends on how many coins you have. Not sure if this applies but just wanted to mention it. Also did you try this with golden Mario or the golden throttle? Those also have different attributes.
You can still Mini boost.
Great video! You definitely have lots more potential for content, one thing is for sure is that you deserve way more subs! :)
My left ear enjoys this
As someone who tends to be on the better end when playing games with family, I can totally relate to wanting to find a way to make yourself weaker while keeping it fun. In the past when I played Duck Game I would ban myself from using guns and would primarily use the boxes to kill people (only when possible of course). I still won most of the time, but it made things far more even. Plus, there are the bragging rights you get from beating someone while under a major handicap.
Tip for anyone like me who has sensory issues regarding not having equal audio in both ears: If you are on an iPhone, you can go into your settings app, click on Accessibility, click on Audio/Visual, and then toggle the Mono Audio to be on! It’s a life saver for when you find videos like this that you really want to watch but don’t want to have a meltdown because of unbalanced audio lol. Happy watching!
Underrated info, I’ll have to let my girlfriend know about this! Thanks, Toasty :D
Pisses me off that android doesn't have that feature for some reason. So many times my earphones have died in one ear, and I just want to hear all the sound, but the pan ruins music and video games because I can only hear one side.
OH MY GOD YOUNG JOPES JUMPSCARE
You are the best kid UA-camr ever
he's now through puberty
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but you sound very young - if your writing and delivery is this clear and concise, and your editing is this sharp, in middle school(?), I can't imagine how phenomenal your stuff will be in a few years with more experience and better equipment. Keep grinding Jopes, I think you've got a bright future in content creation!
This doesn't sound creepy at all...
@@ChaosRyan3 you are the creepy one...
@@AlenBear A mature response.
i love when mario kart youtubers who main blue shy guy and have handsome voices upload. love you jopes
This was soooo helpful thank you!! I’m trying to play with my nephew and I’m not good but it’s just not fair, so I’ve been wondering how to handicap myself. Liked and subbed as thank you for the time consuming work you put in! Thanks!!