I think a challenge you could try is to attempt to run a gasoline generator and see how much electricity you can produce with it. That would be pretty interesting to see
Would be great if it also generated electricity, indeed, but given it runs on electricity it feels a bit odd, would be nice if he was able to use the very gas contained in the plastic for the reaction, harnessing the leftover is dangerous af tho.
@@bitsofeverything8385 modify the exhaust to be the cracking unit... start it on liquid, once its hot its running on vapours and youre still condensing the heavier stuff... exhaust pipes get rather toasty :) but i cant help but wonder what the electricity will then be used for. lighting? why not a gas flame with mantle? quite like old gas-lighting... cooking? ummm... youre making stuff that burns hot anyway. heating water? ditto. about all you need electricity FOR is convenience, and the puter, radio, tv, etc. basically, just remove the engine and figure out how to not rely on electricity.
@jacobclement8150 plug it into itself and the mains, then you have a complete waste of plastic 💀 (i was gonna say make it self sustaining but i just realised how stupid i was)
When you compress the gas from.the yoga balls, I would put a bucket full of water with the inlet going into the bottom of the bucket and the outlet for the bucket with a check valve. This will prevent an explosion in case of a spontanious flame in the lines by having the water act as a stop line/shock absorber and the water will additionally captrure any voltiles so your gas burns cleaner in the end. You could also have a barrel in place of a yoga ball with a pressure meter that hooks up to a microcontroller for the gas pump that it turns on the air compressor when it reaches a specific pressure range and turns off once it falls a certain bar below that range. I'm sure there are some microplastics left behind in your coke, but I've been made aware there are species of fungi that could break down these microplastics for energy while also breaking down the carbon molecules in the coal for food. I'm not sure if this is something you'd be interested in, but if you'd ever be willing to send me the waste I'd love to try it and be in communication with the results. While it's a little off topic, I'd had an idea for recycling aluminum from the leftover plastics using gallium as a catalyst to produde alumimum hydroxide that can be reduced into alumina crystals which could then potentially grown on a catalyst into pure sapphire sheets which are incredible using for industrial applications.
This guy gets it. I've been thinking for years about pyrolysis in conjunction with fungi that feed on petroleum products. My thought was to buy a former landfill and use a trommel-type sifting/sorting system to essentially mine it for plastic and scrap metal. Theoretically , you'd end up with free real estate. The industrial sapphire angle is another incredible extension of this idea
Please keep doing this research. You’re on to something really important. Your intelligence and humor are refreshing. I hope you win a Nobel prize one day.
@@lukasjelinek6808 Is this easy to make? I know nothing about this machine, its process or even the terms being thrown around here. I'm just here because someone claims they can turn plastic into fuel. I'd assume that would change industries if it's true.
@@proquo-s I am glad you asking because I actually know. He did a pretty damn good job here. His machine has a reliable source of heat, the thermal isolation is perfect, he can run it under vacuum, and the most I like the way he removes the carbon after the pyrolysis ends. Making the bare machine however is really easy. You have to get some container where you put the plastics in>connect it to the condenser>divide the tubing in 2, one point upwards (there you will be collecting your natural gasses) next one point down, connect it to another container so your liquid yield can be collected. Don´t forget to fill the container with plastics with carbon dioxide so your plastics actually gets pyrolized. This way you make the cheapest pyrolisis generator from scrap metal from scratch, however you can´t collect gasses, but you get the idea. If you want it under vacuum as he did, just modify it according to his generator. The big pyrolysis powerplant generators already exists, however, only mixed waste is burnt here. They only build these in 3rd world countries, where waste is not recycled, and due to insuffitient effitiency of these powerplants it is not that widely spread it. Secondly, pyrolysing or burning chemicaly processed plastics like PVC creates toxic waste which contains toxic chemicals according to the plastic variant. (In case of PVC it is chlorine) and in Europe and such, we can recycle plastics others. I hope I helped you a little bit, I can provide with more information if needed
Leak issue may be from Teflon on the union. Try using pipe seal compound (pipe dope) on the face of union and tighten. It’s more of a paste rather than tape and will give a good seal on that bevel flare
Have you measured your energy input to see how much energy is required to obtain x amount of energy from the gasses extracted? I know the ratio will get better as you scale it, but I’m definitely curious
There is no need to talk nonsense about efficiency, you did a wonderful job so far. There's much more value that doesn't match the eye than the mere net energy calculation. It's waste reduction in a quite simple setup that anyone could have at home.
i think i counted 4 coils... maybe 1600 watts each... maybe 6000+ watts. so your breaker is fried. and the electric bill makes it pointless. so if its offgrid your ok. the microwaves would radiate through the machine and irradiate the area the machine is in. everything inside, outside and produced... is radioactive and gains more over time. how many gallons is a yoga ball, how nuch liquid do you produce from each?
@@pazsionwhile it's possible that the microwaves do leak, creating a risk at the time of operation, they won't build up over time. Microwaves are ionizing, but they won't interact with and activate the neutrons of the surroundings like a fusion reaction will. That's why your microwave doesn't give you a radiation burn every time you reach inside
Please understand the chemistry behind the reactions first. This process is highly dangerous for health and enviroment, its as a fact also not economicly viable (fully burning the polymere as often done is far more energeticly profitable). Nothing a everyday person should consider
@@JanPoppe-it4dq needs a fume hood with proper filtration for sure, but extracting everything useful boosts effienciency... we could do more to keep this process clean, than industry ever could... hes finalized the design, now he just needs to shield it and contain any toxins produced... he has the right idea of reusing the waste from the process... as everything can be used it ahould be! nothing from this process should leave as waste or normal operation. everything can be used, refined and has monetary value. usefulness. irradiating the materials can also produce new materials... and its risk of contamination decreases rapidly over time depending on what is produced. most is just charged ionizeation of materials... some metals act like a battery and store this energy until shorted out...
I want to know what the conversion is. How many dollars of electricity for how many dollars of plasti-gas. And I would also like to see what he gets once the system is actually efficient for real. I see losses all over the place, first beginning at the electrical outlet.
Can i ask a stupid question? Why not just burn the plastic in a high efficiency furnance that burns off smoke to heat water for steam power generation?
This is great. I imagine you could operate this in the southwest US entirely by focusing sunlight to heat the plastic and focused sunlight to create steam to power the machinery.
I think there is a calculating error by the gas. its uncompressed gas in the ball(evtl. 1 bar over atmospheric). So 1m³ of gas arround 12kw. The Ball seems to be 75cm in diameter, so the volume is max 0,19m³ *4 Jogaballs is 0,78m³ * 12 kwh = 9,36 kw in gas. I think the calculated weight of the gas is wrong or therr are gases that are much heavier. With this calculated, you get max out what you get in. But nice work, thought about for my solar overpower, but exluded energy is to complex to use it well. Better in a specialized recyling raffinery, that sells different energies.
I suspected he was way off with the gas. He also calculated his carbon without factoring what he seeded or that he would then need to use the carbon for seeding again, thus its not part of his energy equation. Im pretty sure he lost at least 4.5 kWh not gained 20.
It's great that you're able to do that. But how much electricity do you use to break that down. I have seen people use scrap wood and miscellaneous stuff for the Pyro pyrolysis. You know what I mean. Anyways nice work. Be careful that you may have formaldehyde or some very nasty stuff that did not break down. Would hate to see you get cancer
@@twirlyturd4364 He's already made a good point against the energy ineffeciency point; If you use solar, it's essentially free energy by proxy with the addition of reducing waste. As far as pollution, the system seems pretty closed, I doubt pollution is a big factor, especially compared to the standard process in place for "recycling" plastics
Some thinner plastics like old grocery bags, and petrolium based foams like styrofoam can easily be melted with a spoon full of acetone or gasoline/petrol, it's one thing I would do to increase density in the primary reaction chamber.
So glad you are still at this. I was not getting any of your content for a long time and worried you might have stopped your work, but very glad you continue!
When it comes to spilling stuff you can contain your liquid is hdpe jugs for motor oil and turn them sideways to pour it out; you get more control that way.
You are amazing man, good job. It makes so much sense what you do. You combine common sense, science and that with DYI methods you have on your hand. Microwave heating, as I understood, you spent 25 kWh, right. When one has some surplus solar or wind electricity and has some trash or waste biomass, well then do what? Billions over Billions of Dollars are spent in some fancy silicon valley start-ups to solve the holy grail of storing renewable energy. You did it with DYI means in your backyard. Outstanding work. Peace out.
Factoring coal that you input from a previous run, and not considered the amount of “carbon” you plan on using in the next batch instead of burning as energy. 10.9 more like 5 at best. Then the gas is calculated wrong. Im guessing you got about 20kWh at best. You lost power.
Why does everyone seem to think that this is a new thing?, this has been a documented process for years, there are whole pyrolysis plants with industry scale pyrolysis machines
It's just not commonly known machinery; to be fair, this is a lot more sophisticated compared to the others I've seen. I'm glad people are impressed by it... Though, the influx of interest is probably due to gas prices being pretty high.
I’ve got news for you, industry scale is not translatable to all areas and is actually a limitation in and of itself. Think how we took longer to make more compact vessels for space travel. It wasn’t new, but scaling down machines with grand function like this is no doubt a feat of science. Even if it’s not novelty in its entirety. I live in a mostly rural community in Alaska and work for engineering & facilities department which deals with a population of sub 12k. We still generate monthly tens of tons of waste, and we recycle paper as much as we can but it imposes cost on ratepayers (taxes) and requires outsourcing. An industrial-sized machine in this community would not be worth the investment and impose high cost in operations and maintenance. If we one day could have this as an option that’s scaled down, then it could actually impact our community directly. The existing science and machinery does not support this possibility unless we have individuals like this young man pushing the envelope with enthusiasm. Why point out this isn’t new like that would take away the effort and impact? Ya know? I’m watching these videos with a real hope for my community attached.
@@brianprice8372 I hope you find and follow one or more of the many promising technologies becoming available out there. Whether it's home or municipal scale many of these old technologies were not practical for many reasons years ago. Improvements in materials, components and the availability is bringing a lot of this into the practical and even profitable range on small distributed and home or farm scales. These slightly mad scientist types help drive the evolution and put it into real, tested usage models and applications.
Curious about impact of mixing organic and non organic - think movie theatre or take out trays, or maybe orange peels \ pistachio shells\ banana peels. Does this lead to longer runs / reduced efficiency? Perhaps more water recovered? Water is a scarcity now so if this can recover perhaps there is value in the water recovery vs evaporation? Average home solar might be 6KW. What would a unit running only on solar look like? Also, thoughts on how your setup might work if it was set up and a 25 degree angle downward to the exit? You may need to support the auger shaft to reduce rubbing (maybe with a collar and post?), not sure how flexible the gas pipes out are, and adjust how the motor sits on the box but I wonder if that could induce some lift and swirl, or at least aid in moving the material towards the exist so your clean up is a bit easier?
Yup, water content shoots up a lot when food is mixed in, it almost acts as a deiscator / distiller . This takes 4KW to run at full power so I guess a home solar could run it. Running it angled downward is great for carbon but bad for plastic, because the plastic will fall down too. It'd be best to have it tilted just when I need it to be.
Could you instal something that acts like a sift to allow the carbon to drop but not the plastic? Like a netting, or something like a chimney sweeping brush. I really don’t understand this machine enough to know if this would be possible or even useful. But when I saw the idea of separating the powdery carbon from larger plastic pieces, this was my initial thought.
Sorry I know you said you calculated the gains very precisely, but its going to cost 60-70% of your 49kw Total converting it back into electricity ! So you are actually only gaining approx 7.44KWH. The only way to win here is to burn wood for free! Or use Solar to power the microwave.
@@SteveMillerFan There is a way you can do that but a bit pricy. If you put many 20w TEG's (5cmX5cm each)on the top of the barrels with thermal cement and blow a fan on the cold side heat sink, also could diy a TEG array with many 100s of pairs of 2 types of metal wire twisted and put in the hot side which would be a fraction of the price as the 20w TEG's but will need loads more time and labour. Also you could put a sealed water boiler running a Tesla Turbine gen to recover some of the heat into electricity. Or do both until you recover most of the electricity ?
good job! have you posted any videos explaining the thermochemistry - energy balance aspect of things ? is the energy put into the vessel less than the energy gained under the shape of gas, oil and carbon?
yup, if your using the grid, your raising prices and burning coal and lpg and maybe nuclear, but i havent seen anytging suggesting nuclear is used for consumer power at all, less than 20%... causing more problems that your trying to solve... gotta get that power off grid if your over 1200watts and running constantly.
your using more kwh than your putting out? why use kwh vs gallons? is that how many hours you can produce 50,000 watts for 50 hours? ita hard to rationalize or make sense of these meassurments?
Awesome dude. Always been wanting to experiment with this stuff, turn dead plastic into useful stuff or stuff that is harmless to nature. I'm impressed with your tinkering and set-up, much respect. Do you have any degrees or are you self-taught?
This is badass nicely done sir. I thought about this issue quite some time ago after hearing the problem with micro plastic. I experimented with types of mycelium that could eat plastics but is not convential on a large scale. Im excited about this and get to see where you take it. I applaud you.
I have an idea that can help with the condenser heating up problem you could try putting a canister around the pipes and have them full of ice water to cool it better
Is there any reason why you couldn’t load this with wood chunks and run this life a wood gasifier? Wonder what the wood gas and wood oil recovery would be like?
Dude, my lack of knowledge of electricity has told me to stay away from shit that I know very little about and could kill me. I’m old and look forward to the challenge, though it’ll be slow.
This is a scam channel from the numbers. 1) the energy consumption can not be a whole number when all the other numbers have 3-4 sigfig. It’s highly suspicious. there needs to be a meter that measures the electricity input. 2. Coal has a significantly higher energy content than plastic char. Also the coal energy density value used is highly inflated. 3) the fluid output is not 100% fuel. There are other fluids that are non combustible in the output which makes it another inflated value. 5) the 2nd law of thermodynamics has not and cannot be broken
How clean is the recovered gas. Can the carbon be pressed into briquettes and burned. How much did your reactor cost to build. What powers your reactor, has and electric and what gas are you using. Are you willing to share your reactor build plans or are you selling the plans. How are you compressing the recovered gas into the tank. Food for thought. If you use a forklift propane tank, you can safely fill it to 400+ psig
People here who say this is a scam or clickbait do not understand basic physics. The designer/ builder is not saying he defies the laws of physics. He's just saying that the gas fuel converted from the plastic contains more energy than the amount of energy required to power the microwave. He never claimed the energy contained in the produced gas fuel is "free energy" or " overunity". The energy was already contained in the waste plastic. This energy in the waste plastic is just being converted to a usuable gas form. I live off grid on solar. Now I buy propane to cook with. I can see how this system could be very useful in a situation like mine. I have lots if plastic waste that us normally discarded . ( i recycle, but the truth is that a lot of plastic people try to recycle ends up in landfills). This system could be a good way to reduce my plastic waste and make cooking gas at the same time so I would not need to buy propane. I think he said it runs on 4000 watts max? That would work with my solar pv system, especially if it can make 3 yoga balls full if gas in only 3- 4 hours! This is much cleaner than a typical fire powered gasifier which are very smoky and dirty at least in the beginning before they reach optimum temperature. Great work! I would love to experiment with this myself or somehow contribute ( not with $ though, only because that is something I lack)
I like your electrically powered method of heating the plastic, because its a way to utilize and convert solar energy for example, into stored hydrocarbon fuel energy. That overcomes a big limitation of solar, its only available 6hrs a day at peak sunlight.
Nice Project :) 25kwh isnt huge, you should expand it more and try to make your process a lot cleaner and more efficient. what if you calculate the wear of all the machines out, is it worth than? If you would have done this commercially, than you would have to take into account, that you probably would have a low pricetag on all the products, as its often that producers have low pricetags, because of taxes and stuff. So would the math work out at a large scale? Nevertheless i like your proof of concept! :) Keep up the good work!
@kreynolds1123 the furnace is separating and evaporating all the polymer/oil based chemicals. That's all in the fuel product coming out of the process. But paper pulp has enough residue sap and binding from the paper making process it should bind by itself
The recovered gas to the carbon and needing to be mixed with oxygen to burn. How can we pass all these steps to use it immediately and do all these processes?
Consider looking into solid oxide fuel cells as a way to use the output gasses as a electricity source. Fuel cells tend to have higher efficiencies than combustion engines (Carnot cycle max efficiency is ~30% whereas fuel cells can get up to ~90% efficiency).
Modern technology can be used to farm methane with your kitchen waste and lawn waste in two one cubic meter plastic containers. You can compress those methane fully automated into a light-weight, installable propane tanks for charging your Aptera in the backyard 7/24. If you don't use them to charge your Aptera, you can use them to cook your food or warm your house as well. All kitchen waste will become fertilizers eventually, which you can sell/donate to vertical/roof-top organic farms around metropolitans.
You can make three stages for the collection part each one in water. Each stage will be something different. One Diesel one kerosene one gas. You will be able to see it by color as well once it’s done! That gives you all 4 natural gas ⛽️ gas ⛽️ Diesel and kerosene!
Hey mate, love your work , I think It might be worth gofund or investing in a direct high kw solar setup to the power points you use for your shredder and pyrolysis device. Would be a cool proof of concept running this on sunny days, gathering fuel.Then running a generator at night for your house (using your fuel). Other then parts replacement and solar panel degradation it would be extremely efficient/good for the planet! Keep it up 😊
Let’s hope he doesn’t suddenly die and all of his research and prototypes go missing…… only to have a mega corporation come out with something incredibly similar a little bit later.
I just discovered your channel. Never thought of using a microwave to do this! My technique uses an electric arc and waste gas to heat the chamber, it produces a Diesel like fuel I burn in my truck. You are doing something real, unlike most who are just scammers.
At the right temperature, the "coal" could be completly gassified by spraying tiny bits of steem into the reactor with the coal. The carbon will steal the oxygen atoms making mostly carbon monoxide and hydrogen gas.
My bad, I was thinking kWh for power generation. The energy efficiency of using the products as liquid fuel in cars is only about ~30% (internal combustion efficiency). His process is about 85% efficient, so it may be good for getting rid of plastic waste. A better use would be to run the system hotter to pull off a higher percentage of gas, and burn it in a boiler to generate electricity with a steam turbine, as boiler efficiency is ~80% give or take
Fuck all the criticism. You've had a fan in me my guy. Really awesome work. I'm honestly inspired to build one myself. I'm working on a CNC project at the moment but I have some btc machines running off of donated solar. I think this would be a great way to repurpose that energy. Thank you for all your work mate 🙏. I'd love to work together someday. Keep up the great work 💪
I'm not saying you're wrong. But my admittedly limited research, Plastic pyrolysis, supposedly shouldn't yield a net positive energy amount. I'm confused
I think a challenge you could try is to attempt to run a gasoline generator and see how much electricity you can produce with it. That would be pretty interesting to see
Would be great if it also generated electricity, indeed, but given it runs on electricity it feels a bit odd, would be nice if he was able to use the very gas contained in the plastic for the reaction, harnessing the leftover is dangerous af tho.
A steam turbine could also be used by heating water and running the pressured steam through the turbine itself
@@bitsofeverything8385 modify the exhaust to be the cracking unit... start it on liquid, once its hot its running on vapours and youre still condensing the heavier stuff... exhaust pipes get rather toasty :)
but i cant help but wonder what the electricity will then be used for.
lighting? why not a gas flame with mantle? quite like old gas-lighting...
cooking? ummm... youre making stuff that burns hot anyway.
heating water? ditto.
about all you need electricity FOR is convenience, and the puter, radio, tv, etc.
basically, just remove the engine and figure out how to not rely on electricity.
It would be good for the statistics of the machine too
@jacobclement8150 plug it into itself and the mains, then you have a complete waste of plastic 💀
(i was gonna say make it self sustaining but i just realised how stupid i was)
When you compress the gas from.the yoga balls, I would put a bucket full of water with the inlet going into the bottom of the bucket and the outlet for the bucket with a check valve. This will prevent an explosion in case of a spontanious flame in the lines by having the water act as a stop line/shock absorber and the water will additionally captrure any voltiles so your gas burns cleaner in the end.
You could also have a barrel in place of a yoga ball with a pressure meter that hooks up to a microcontroller for the gas pump that it turns on the air compressor when it reaches a specific pressure range and turns off once it falls a certain bar below that range.
I'm sure there are some microplastics left behind in your coke, but I've been made aware there are species of fungi that could break down these microplastics for energy while also breaking down the carbon molecules in the coal for food. I'm not sure if this is something you'd be interested in, but if you'd ever be willing to send me the waste I'd love to try it and be in communication with the results.
While it's a little off topic, I'd had an idea for recycling aluminum from the leftover plastics using gallium as a catalyst to produde alumimum hydroxide that can be reduced into alumina crystals which could then potentially grown on a catalyst into pure sapphire sheets which are incredible using for industrial applications.
This guy gets it. I've been thinking for years about pyrolysis in conjunction with fungi that feed on petroleum products. My thought was to buy a former landfill and use a trommel-type sifting/sorting system to essentially mine it for plastic and scrap metal. Theoretically , you'd end up with free real estate. The industrial sapphire angle is another incredible extension of this idea
I don't think fungi will survive in the coke. What about leftover aromatics that are carconigen?
Please keep doing this research. You’re on to something really important. Your intelligence and humor are refreshing. I hope you win a Nobel prize one day.
Nobel prize for a condenser?
@@lukasjelinek6808this guys is a fraud.
@@lukasjelinek6808 Is this easy to make? I know nothing about this machine, its process or even the terms being thrown around here. I'm just here because someone claims they can turn plastic into fuel. I'd assume that would change industries if it's true.
@@proquo-s I am glad you asking because I actually know. He did a pretty damn good job here. His machine has a reliable source of heat, the thermal isolation is perfect, he can run it under vacuum, and the most I like the way he removes the carbon after the pyrolysis ends.
Making the bare machine however is really easy. You have to get some container where you put the plastics in>connect it to the condenser>divide the tubing in 2, one point upwards (there you will be collecting your natural gasses) next one point down, connect it to another container so your liquid yield can be collected. Don´t forget to fill the container with plastics with carbon dioxide so your plastics actually gets pyrolized.
This way you make the cheapest pyrolisis generator from scrap metal from scratch, however you can´t collect gasses, but you get the idea. If you want it under vacuum as he did, just modify it according to his generator.
The big pyrolysis powerplant generators already exists, however, only mixed waste is burnt here. They only build these in 3rd world countries, where waste is not recycled, and due to insuffitient effitiency of these powerplants it is not that widely spread it. Secondly, pyrolysing or burning chemicaly processed plastics like PVC creates toxic waste which contains toxic chemicals according to the plastic variant. (In case of PVC it is chlorine) and in Europe and such, we can recycle plastics others.
I hope I helped you a little bit, I can provide with more information if needed
Bruh this tech is as old as plastic.
I’m so glad you decided to use metric rather than imperial
the international community agrees 🌍🌎🌏
All chemistry is done with metric units as a standard.
Metric is the standard for pretty much all of science.
Leak issue may be from Teflon on the union. Try using pipe seal compound (pipe dope) on the face of union and tighten. It’s more of a paste rather than tape and will give a good seal on that bevel flare
I just left the same information lol. Great minds and all that
this is going to be big
Big like his balllllls
Did you forget to add the weight of the carbon you put in? The plastic alone was 16 pounds I thought. Did you also get oil or liquid gas?
This man can turn the Kardashians int unlimited energy
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, you know what happened to all the inventors before him that created something amazing.They mysteriously disappeared Look for the Y File
@melonman2636 ur foul
@@realstray15 ur foul
@@publicalias8172ur foul
Have you measured your energy input to see how much energy is required to obtain x amount of energy from the gasses extracted? I know the ratio will get better as you scale it, but I’m definitely curious
There is no need to talk nonsense about efficiency, you did a wonderful job so far. There's much more value that doesn't match the eye than the mere net energy calculation. It's waste reduction in a quite simple setup that anyone could have at home.
we neee to turn all the plastic into energy and stop dumping it, the only condition is doing so cleanly, this is a very valuable research.
i think i counted 4 coils...
maybe 1600 watts each... maybe 6000+ watts. so your breaker is fried. and the electric bill makes it pointless. so if its offgrid your ok.
the microwaves would radiate through the machine and irradiate the area the machine is in. everything inside, outside and produced... is radioactive and gains more over time.
how many gallons is a yoga ball, how nuch liquid do you produce from each?
@@pazsionwhile it's possible that the microwaves do leak, creating a risk at the time of operation, they won't build up over time. Microwaves are ionizing, but they won't interact with and activate the neutrons of the surroundings like a fusion reaction will. That's why your microwave doesn't give you a radiation burn every time you reach inside
Please understand the chemistry behind the reactions first. This process is highly dangerous for health and enviroment, its as a fact also not economicly viable (fully burning the polymere as often done is far more energeticly profitable). Nothing a everyday person should consider
@@JanPoppe-it4dq needs a fume hood with proper filtration for sure, but extracting everything useful boosts effienciency... we could do more to keep this process clean, than industry ever could...
hes finalized the design, now he just needs to shield it and contain any toxins produced... he has the right idea of reusing the waste from the process... as everything can be used it ahould be!
nothing from this process should leave as waste or normal operation. everything can be used, refined and has monetary value. usefulness.
irradiating the materials can also produce new materials... and its risk of contamination decreases rapidly over time depending on what is produced. most is just charged ionizeation of materials... some metals act like a battery and store this energy until shorted out...
This is so cool dude!!!! You’re going to create a whole new industry of mining the garbage dumps for the emery that was thrown away.
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Love your energy, man. I can feel your passion through this video
I want to know what the conversion is. How many dollars of electricity for how many dollars of plasti-gas. And I would also like to see what he gets once the system is actually efficient for real. I see losses all over the place, first beginning at the electrical outlet.
It’s not efficient, the only thing efficient is the UA-cam clicks
Can i ask a stupid question? Why not just burn the plastic in a high efficiency furnance that burns off smoke to heat water for steam power generation?
Facts! Because that is a real technology. He couldn't make youtube videos for the idiots of the world.
timelapses were so cool to watch
nice work!
This is great. I imagine you could operate this in the southwest US entirely by focusing sunlight to heat the plastic and focused sunlight to create steam to power the machinery.
Yes, the tech needed to focus the sunlight is available via cheap aluminum coated mirrors.
I think there is a calculating error by the gas. its uncompressed gas in the ball(evtl. 1 bar over atmospheric).
So 1m³ of gas arround 12kw. The Ball seems to be 75cm in diameter, so the volume is max 0,19m³ *4 Jogaballs is 0,78m³ * 12 kwh = 9,36 kw in gas.
I think the calculated weight of the gas is wrong or therr are gases that are much heavier.
With this calculated, you get max out what you get in.
But nice work, thought about for my solar overpower, but exluded energy is to complex to use it well.
Better in a specialized recyling raffinery, that sells different energies.
I suspected he was way off with the gas. He also calculated his carbon without factoring what he seeded or that he would then need to use the carbon for seeding again, thus its not part of his energy equation. Im pretty sure he lost at least 4.5 kWh not gained 20.
It's great that you're able to do that. But how much electricity do you use to break that down. I have seen people use scrap wood and miscellaneous stuff for the Pyro pyrolysis. You know what I mean. Anyways nice work. Be careful that you may have formaldehyde or some very nasty stuff that did not break down. Would hate to see you get cancer
Loong time Microwaves can't be cheap
He did the entire energy consumption/energy produced at the end of the video. He said his energy input was 25KWH input.
You got some balls showing this off dude! Great work!
You should store the vapor in air mattresses
Good ideaa
They like to have holes in them.
But… you would have far fewer opportunities for ball jokes.
Yea then let the cancer fumes leak out into your room
HOW IS THIS STUFF NOT VIRAL YET?!?!
Because the government hate us
@user-ox6nc6ly7f trust me at this point anyone, with gas so high it’s like paying for vacation without a vacation
@user-ox6nc6ly7f people who want to save money. The way gas is skyrocketing I'd rather much make my own.
Because someone does this same BS invention every 4 years. This is a Freemason scam! Nothing new under the sun.
@@twirlyturd4364 He's already made a good point against the energy ineffeciency point; If you use solar, it's essentially free energy by proxy with the addition of reducing waste. As far as pollution, the system seems pretty closed, I doubt pollution is a big factor, especially compared to the standard process in place for "recycling" plastics
Some thinner plastics like old grocery bags, and petrolium based foams like styrofoam can easily be melted with a spoon full of acetone or gasoline/petrol, it's one thing I would do to increase density in the primary reaction chamber.
So glad you are still at this.
I was not getting any of your content for a long time and worried you might have stopped your work, but very glad you continue!
When it comes to spilling stuff you can contain your liquid is hdpe jugs for motor oil and turn them sideways to pour it out; you get more control that way.
You are amazing man, good job.
It makes so much sense what you do.
You combine common sense, science and that with DYI methods you have on your hand.
Microwave heating, as I understood, you spent 25 kWh, right.
When one has some surplus solar or wind electricity and has some trash or waste biomass, well then do what?
Billions over Billions of Dollars are spent in some fancy silicon valley start-ups to solve the holy grail of storing renewable energy.
You did it with DYI means in your backyard.
Outstanding work.
Peace out.
Thank you, and that is an amazing application of this technology!
Excellent work young scientist. 👏
Factoring coal that you input from a previous run, and not considered the amount of “carbon” you plan on using in the next batch instead of burning as energy. 10.9 more like 5 at best.
Then the gas is calculated wrong. Im guessing you got about 20kWh at best. You lost power.
Does the card board just contribute to the gas?
Pretty much
This is so cool. Thank you for putting out this video!
Why does everyone seem to think that this is a new thing?, this has been a documented process for years, there are whole pyrolysis plants with industry scale pyrolysis machines
It's just not commonly known machinery; to be fair, this is a lot more sophisticated compared to the others I've seen. I'm glad people are impressed by it... Though, the influx of interest is probably due to gas prices being pretty high.
Black kid doing it is more impressive I guess, I said the same thing you did
AFAIK those plants don't use microwaves to start the pyrolosis
I’ve got news for you, industry scale is not translatable to all areas and is actually a limitation in and of itself. Think how we took longer to make more compact vessels for space travel. It wasn’t new, but scaling down machines with grand function like this is no doubt a feat of science. Even if it’s not novelty in its entirety.
I live in a mostly rural community in Alaska and work for engineering & facilities department which deals with a population of sub 12k. We still generate monthly tens of tons of waste, and we recycle paper as much as we can but it imposes cost on ratepayers (taxes) and requires outsourcing. An industrial-sized machine in this community would not be worth the investment and impose high cost in operations and maintenance. If we one day could have this as an option that’s scaled down, then it could actually impact our community directly. The existing science and machinery does not support this possibility unless we have individuals like this young man pushing the envelope with enthusiasm. Why point out this isn’t new like that would take away the effort and impact? Ya know? I’m watching these videos with a real hope for my community attached.
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I hope you find and follow one or more of the many promising technologies becoming available out there.
Whether it's home or municipal scale many of these old technologies were not practical for many reasons years ago. Improvements in materials, components and the availability is bringing a lot of this into the practical and even profitable range on small distributed and home or farm scales.
These slightly mad scientist types help drive the evolution and put it into real, tested usage models and applications.
Curious about impact of mixing organic and non organic - think movie theatre or take out trays, or maybe orange peels \ pistachio shells\ banana peels. Does this lead to longer runs / reduced efficiency? Perhaps more water recovered? Water is a scarcity now so if this can recover perhaps there is value in the water recovery vs evaporation? Average home solar might be 6KW. What would a unit running only on solar look like? Also, thoughts on how your setup might work if it was set up and a 25 degree angle downward to the exit? You may need to support the auger shaft to reduce rubbing (maybe with a collar and post?), not sure how flexible the gas pipes out are, and adjust how the motor sits on the box but I wonder if that could induce some lift and swirl, or at least aid in moving the material towards the exist so your clean up is a bit easier?
Yup, water content shoots up a lot when food is mixed in, it almost acts as a deiscator / distiller . This takes 4KW to run at full power so I guess a home solar could run it. Running it angled downward is great for carbon but bad for plastic, because the plastic will fall down too. It'd be best to have it tilted just when I need it to be.
Could you instal something that acts like a sift to allow the carbon to drop but not the plastic? Like a netting, or something like a chimney sweeping brush.
I really don’t understand this machine enough to know if this would be possible or even useful. But when I saw the idea of separating the powdery carbon from larger plastic pieces, this was my initial thought.
Sorry I know you said you calculated the gains very precisely, but its going to cost 60-70% of your 49kw Total converting it back into electricity ! So you are actually only gaining approx 7.44KWH. The only way to win here is to burn wood for free! Or use Solar to power the microwave.
The reactor can be improved, and newer versions can be made with less flaws, and more effecient.
@@SteveMillerFan There is a way you can do that but a bit pricy. If you put many 20w TEG's (5cmX5cm each)on the top of the barrels with thermal cement and blow a fan on the cold side heat sink, also could diy a TEG array with many 100s of pairs of 2 types of metal wire twisted and put in the hot side which would be a fraction of the price as the 20w TEG's but will need loads more time and labour. Also you could put a sealed water boiler running a Tesla Turbine gen to recover some of the heat into electricity. Or do both until you recover most of the electricity ?
Keep it up! Very inspiring. I am looking forward to you separating the products in the future, Your own back yard refinery, Take that Big Oil!!
good job! have you posted any videos explaining the thermochemistry - energy balance aspect of things ? is the energy put into the vessel less than the energy gained under the shape of gas, oil and carbon?
The real move is to experiment using electricity from solar to heat the plastic. That would be perfection!😊
yup, if your using the grid, your raising prices and burning coal and lpg and maybe nuclear, but i havent seen anytging suggesting nuclear is used for consumer power at all, less than 20%...
causing more problems that your trying to solve... gotta get that power off grid if your over 1200watts and running constantly.
your using more kwh than your putting out? why use kwh vs gallons?
is that how many hours you can produce 50,000 watts for 50 hours?
ita hard to rationalize or make sense of these meassurments?
My sympathies on spilling stuff, I'm right there with you on spilling stuff!
Awesome dude. Always been wanting to experiment with this stuff, turn dead plastic into useful stuff or stuff that is harmless to nature. I'm impressed with your tinkering and set-up, much respect. Do you have any degrees or are you self-taught?
This is far far far from harmless
This is badass nicely done sir. I thought about this issue quite some time ago after hearing the problem with micro plastic. I experimented with types of mycelium that could eat plastics but is not convential on a large scale. Im excited about this and get to see where you take it. I applaud you.
Are the fumes from the melted plastic toxic?
Extremely
How much electricity did it take to produce how much fuel? What's the trade off?
Trade off is that you get cancer and use more energy than what’s extracted
I have an idea that can help with the condenser heating up problem you could try putting a canister around the pipes and have them full of ice water to cool it better
Is there any reason why you couldn’t load this with wood chunks and run this life a wood gasifier? Wonder what the wood gas and wood oil recovery would be like?
We'll do it!
Dude, my lack of knowledge of electricity has told me to stay away from shit that I know very little about and could kill me. I’m old and look forward to the challenge, though it’ll be slow.
Currently playing with a biodigerster build to heat the digester tank through the winter and a small greenhouse, with the effluent for fertilizer.
This is a scam channel from the numbers.
1) the energy consumption can not be a whole number when all the other numbers have 3-4 sigfig. It’s highly suspicious. there needs to be a meter that measures the electricity input.
2. Coal has a significantly higher energy content than plastic char. Also the coal energy density value used is highly inflated.
3) the fluid output is not 100% fuel. There are other fluids that are non combustible in the output which makes it another inflated value.
5) the 2nd law of thermodynamics has not and cannot be broken
You said alot of nothing
@@vigadotibrand1677 cus you don’t know anything about science. You like being indoctrinated
@@vigadotibrand1677how can you say that with no actual basis, are you seriously trying to say this guy made a 100% efficient machine
@@vigadotibrand1677just because you cant understand his points, doesnt mean theyre wrong bestie
How clean is the recovered gas. Can the carbon be pressed into briquettes and burned. How much did your reactor cost to build. What powers your reactor, has and electric and what gas are you using. Are you willing to share your reactor build plans or are you selling the plans. How are you compressing the recovered gas into the tank. Food for thought. If you use a forklift propane tank, you can safely fill it to 400+ psig
Why isn’t this more mainstream, why isn’t this common practice?
Very inefficient and dirty for the cost to make it, and you still just get fossil fuel at the end which we want to minimise use of
Bc its bs. 199% efficiency is ridiculous. No process can be greater than 100% efficient. Its thermodynamically impossible
Because it’s a cancer factory
How did you build the reactor. We are in a similar project now. I will really appreciate if you could direct us in building ours
How much does this cost on your electric bill?
Dud does this carbom burns? Can i brick it for storage an burn it for heating"
Yes, we'll be burning it soon
Why use the yoga balls? Why not just run it directly to whatever tank youre storing the gas in?
How are you connecting to the yogaball?
Wow, im impressed. You will get far and bless many.
People here who say this is a scam or clickbait do not understand basic physics.
The designer/ builder is not saying he defies the laws of physics. He's just saying that the gas fuel converted from the plastic contains more energy than the amount of energy required to power the microwave. He never claimed the energy contained in the produced gas fuel is "free energy" or " overunity". The energy was already contained in the waste plastic. This energy in the waste plastic is just being converted to a usuable gas form. I live off grid on solar. Now I buy propane to cook with. I can see how this system could be very useful in a situation like mine. I have lots if plastic waste that us normally discarded . ( i recycle, but the truth is that a lot of plastic people try to recycle ends up in landfills). This system could be a good way to reduce my plastic waste and make cooking gas at the same time so I would not need to buy propane. I think he said it runs on 4000 watts max? That would work with my solar pv system, especially if it can make 3 yoga balls full if gas in only 3- 4 hours!
This is much cleaner than a typical fire powered gasifier which are very smoky and dirty at least in the beginning before they reach optimum temperature.
Great work! I would love to experiment with this myself or somehow contribute ( not with $ though, only because that is something I lack)
The hardest part, is efficiently converting the matter back into energy.
Indeed
I like your electrically powered method of heating the plastic, because its a way to utilize and convert solar energy for example, into stored hydrocarbon fuel energy. That overcomes a big limitation of solar, its only available 6hrs a day at peak sunlight.
I plan on duplicating this, could I make it bigger ? I’ve got a lot of plastic.
Bruh don’t do this especially at a larger scale. He just blew himself up if his setup was larger he would be dead
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Nice Project :)
25kwh isnt huge, you should expand it more and try to make your process a lot cleaner and more efficient.
what if you calculate the wear of all the machines out, is it worth than?
If you would have done this commercially, than you would have to take into account, that you probably would have a low pricetag on all the products, as its often that producers have low pricetags, because of taxes and stuff. So would the math work out at a large scale?
Nevertheless i like your proof of concept! :) Keep up the good work!
Congrats dude! 🍻 it’s a feat!!!!
Great Video man! Thanks for sharing.
My first thought was to mix the charcoal with paper pulp logs for firewood
Good idea!
The oils may melt styrophome and that might make a good binder.
@kreynolds1123 the furnace is separating and evaporating all the polymer/oil based chemicals. That's all in the fuel product coming out of the process. But paper pulp has enough residue sap and binding from the paper making process it should bind by itself
Yoo keep in good health so you can keep up rewriting history man ✊🏿🙌🏿
How did you attach the ball valve to the yoga ball? Or can you lead me in the right direction, thanks
Good job. Creative and efficient. Wish you more progress and bigger success.
The recovered gas to the carbon and needing to be mixed with oxygen to burn. How can we pass all these steps to use it immediately and do all these processes?
The extra 24.803 kWh comes from the plastic alone?
Is argon heavier than air? Was the exhaust pipe near the top?
Consider looking into solid oxide fuel cells as a way to use the output gasses as a electricity source. Fuel cells tend to have higher efficiencies than combustion engines (Carnot cycle max efficiency is ~30% whereas fuel cells can get up to ~90% efficiency).
That was truly interesting, thank you for all the calculations!
Modern technology can be used to farm methane with your kitchen waste and lawn waste in two one cubic meter plastic containers. You can compress those methane fully automated into a light-weight, installable propane tanks for charging your Aptera in the backyard 7/24. If you don't use them to charge your Aptera, you can use them to cook your food or warm your house as well. All kitchen waste will become fertilizers eventually, which you can sell/donate to vertical/roof-top organic farms around metropolitans.
this is the coolest shit i've seen in weeks
Have you tried fractional distilling it? If u you have access to an nmr machine id love to see the breakdown
You can make three stages for the collection part each one in water. Each stage will be something different. One Diesel one kerosene one gas. You will be able to see it by color as well once it’s done! That gives you all 4 natural gas ⛽️ gas ⛽️ Diesel and kerosene!
So do you make your own gas for you car? Like you don’t go to the gas station anymore?
You come a long way since I seen your first reactor.
Hey mate, love your work , I think It might be worth gofund or investing in a direct high kw solar setup to the power points you use for your shredder and pyrolysis device. Would be a cool proof of concept running this on sunny days, gathering fuel.Then running a generator at night for your house (using your fuel). Other then parts replacement and solar panel degradation it would be extremely efficient/good for the planet! Keep it up 😊
Are you using one way vale on gas tube?
Let’s hope he doesn’t suddenly die and all of his research and prototypes go missing…… only to have a mega corporation come out with something incredibly similar a little bit later.
Also if you get a measuring cup like what you make funnel cakes with, it pours a lot easier.
@narutejab where can i start learning how to do this?
I just discovered your channel. Never thought of using a microwave to do this! My technique uses an electric arc and waste gas to heat the chamber, it produces a Diesel like fuel I burn in my truck. You are doing something real, unlike most who are just scammers.
WHAT ABOUT OLD, DISCARDED
USED UP TIRES, TO RECYCLE
BACK INTO OIL or GAS ???
AUG. 2023
It can be done but causes acid rain due to the Sulphur in it.
You are giving an energy rating to the "coal" that was left over. Can it be burned in a coal furnace or used for blacksmithing?
yes it can!
What is the Temperature required for efficiency?
I've seen a few videos where the product solidifies after cooling down, can't have that in tank.
My question would be, what can you do with the coal product ? will it burn ?
Will it get me to 88 miles an hour?
Nop 5 min for 5 hours work
Just go back to the 1930s wher evry body had to use gasifires to run ther car.
See you had a Diddy monent,😅
@@Impermeabilizacionesinc you really didn't get the joke did you.
The new ABC - Always Be Compressing 🙂
At the right temperature, the "coal" could be completly gassified by spraying tiny bits of steem into the reactor with the coal. The carbon will steal the oxygen atoms making mostly carbon monoxide and hydrogen gas.
You know I'm just bit over 50 years old and I laughed my ass off every time he said "I had to suck another ball " 😅😅
The innuendo is the cherry on top with this video.
What do you mean by carbon like activated charcoal or graphite
how do you separate it to petrol(gasoline) and how do you purify biodiesel and petrol ,besides using water ?
Im working on a white paper on Carbon. Would love to touch base with you. Are you willing to chat about this experiment on commercial scale?
Please use the fuel you have created to run the whole system. That would be bad ass!!!!
What do you do with the gas and the remaining waste?
Is the pressure increase in the chamber dew to a ball being overinflated?
I am curious as well
just want to know, after burning the plastic at 400°c what is left behind??
Carbon
has this never been done before and is it actually efficient? like would the environment actually benefit from doing this at a large scale
It has, it's not efficient enough to matter, and it's more expensive than other power generation methods
My bad, I was thinking kWh for power generation. The energy efficiency of using the products as liquid fuel in cars is only about ~30% (internal combustion efficiency). His process is about 85% efficient, so it may be good for getting rid of plastic waste. A better use would be to run the system hotter to pull off a higher percentage of gas, and burn it in a boiler to generate electricity with a steam turbine, as boiler efficiency is ~80% give or take
After a couple of runs, could you make carbon powder for graphene?
Fuck all the criticism. You've had a fan in me my guy. Really awesome work. I'm honestly inspired to build one myself. I'm working on a CNC project at the moment but I have some btc machines running off of donated solar. I think this would be a great way to repurpose that energy. Thank you for all your work mate 🙏. I'd love to work together someday. Keep up the great work 💪
Appreciate the support man! Best of luck to you & your project
And I hope I get the opportunity to work with great minds as yourself
Appreciate the support man! Best of luck to you & your project
And I hope I get the opportunity to work with great minds as yourself
How do you throttle the hashing power of the miners as to not overload the supply that's available from the panels?
I'm not saying you're wrong. But my admittedly limited research, Plastic pyrolysis, supposedly shouldn't yield a net positive energy amount. I'm confused
It doesnt. Hes literally bullshitting so hard. 100% efficiency for any process is thermodynamically impossible