VBS Bank | NPA says corruption case affidavit leaked : Mthunzi Mhaga reflects on the matter
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- Joining for on this is the NPA's Spokesperson, Mthunzi Mhaga
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...after 6 yrs nothing was done??? Disgusting!!!
I guess the VBS saga involves Ramaphosa not EFF as we're told. If it was EFF they would have already attacked them
15 yrs.. he will be out on parole in 5 yrs... go back to his lavish lifestyle.. and the robbed victims will still be poor//
I'll health 😅
His assets must be forfeited to the state as they were bought with stolen money
They wanted to hide it. Now it's in the open and have to act on it.
What purpose did it serve being in public 🤷🏾♂️
@@SonOfTheSoil834tarnish tarnish 😅
@@TshepisoMagomane obviously and one will be very dump to think it has achieved anything either than that even at the level of just “intention “
Whoever leaked the affidavit knew exactly what he/she doing knowing well that NPA will drag this case. Holding the person who leaked this affidavit will not make a difference the truth is out, so tell us how you are getting those implicated to face the law.
Bs, it is propaganda to tarnish eff. It is no coincidence this come exactly the same time eff was to bring phala phala matter and even do private persecution.
Plus if u go to the iec national election work backwards to get totally number of registered votes u get 53mil people and this is still flying over people
😂😂
It seems the NPA drags its heels so that the guilty are able to keep delaying and delaying. Hlope delayed his case over and over again for years before he was actually impeached. Look at Makwebena tactics via Mpopho and all the sad stories we had to hear. This is a common catastrophe within the NPA and they need to tighten up the rules of court, and bring back the respect the law deserves. Unfortunately this is about much higher up bodies than Malema and his cohorts, it involves many people. They should be held on bracelets so that they can be tracked. Their bank accounts frozen and a new monitored account opened for their income and stock take of assets. A lot of money is going to disappear while the wait goes on.
Use the resources to investigate the accused, rather than wasting our time and money in a witch hunt to find out who leaked the affidavit.
The same strategy they used to investigate Andre De Ruyter, chasing him and looking for dirt instead of using the opportunity and money to fix Eskom.
We are tired of cover up.we want Transparancy😢😢😢😮😮
If they pursued the actual crime like he’s pursuing the “leak” would’ve at least encouraged us to believe they are honest about crime
So true . They must put much effort on the crime that the person who leaked the affidavit
Why so worried about the leaked affidavit? Were you planning cover up?
I think so
He explains very clearly why he's concerned: leaking the affadavit could compromise future investigations. It warns people that they are under investigation, giving them opportunity to destroy evidence etc.
That is exactly what the npa has been doing because it was politically sensitive. Kudos to the person that leaked the affidavit!
😂😂😂. Of course.
We're is police 😮😮😮
Why should it be a secret?
NPA takes decades to get any investigation done so it's right if the affidavit was leaked ..Don't worry about who ĺeaked the affidavit and get on in prosecution of the thieves who took to money..Get on with what you have to do..
Npa must be investigated. They drag corrupt case for ever . Nothing come out of it. They no use for the puplic.
Npa must be disbanded its so cold doesnt fo its job salary for nothing it should have investigated tht vbs longtime ago
Arrest the 9%,they have been punished and rejected by 91%😂😂
All talks dont do
6 yrs is enough time wasted
Mr Myanga people who are in the letter must go to jail please.
Properly investigated perhaps. And then sentenced.
You are also mentioned there😂. Foolishness at its best, you think a mere affidavit sends people to jail?
Does not make any sense what this gent is saying. For 7 yrs this same npa had time to sort out this matter are they looking for another 7yrs to do what? Really?????
He is making a lot of sense. They must lock those fools that leaked the affidavit. They are jeopardize the case
Exactly
7years is ridiculous
@@carolmakgalemela6940
But not the fools who took the money to begin with? Where there is smoke there’s fire. 🔥
But the afidavid is not new to them and we are only hearing the date of 22 july thanx to the leak.
Utter nonsense, the public has a right to know.
To know what? There is no case number for that affidavit yet!!
@@hallaback2010 It’s called transparency.
@@hallaback2010you living in denial, we not fools
@@thomasgosling5155 no. A leak is a criminal offence. This was not from the courts, but the NPA. There is a difference.
@@Ridiculous-671 you may not be, but you are uninformed. You should’ve listened. He said the matter will only go to a COURT OF LAW on 22nd July. Don’t use emotions.
It was leaked on purpose, maybe by the same NPA, now acting as they got no clue
Yes
You are lying according to SA ...they say may ne you want to cover -up for these politicians ...you had 6 years yet no prosecution ...no compromise ...dont make dxcuses for your incompetience ...she is right
Another cover up
Do you still sell archaar?
True
Why focused on finding the person who leaked instead of arresting everyone who was involved in that heist .
Exactly
The sad part of South african law is that cases take so long that sometimes the people who suffered the loss pass away before they can see justice being served. example Senzo's case, his father passed on heartbroken 💔 😢
If you have done your (6 year) job - the "ventilation" will not stink.
what a load of crap honestly more of the same BS that we usually hear they say proper this and proper that but nothing is ever proper as South African leaders have forgotten what proper is.
Hawks is so currupt..they in bed with anc!
AND THE EFF
And the DA, GNU
@@twentyfifty2050Yes❣️
No ur wrong this things take long bcs u have to get ur bird inside ur net not here say or rumors
Six long, long, long Years 😢
Isn't evidence submitted in a court case in the public domain ?
Wasn't the affidavit part of the evidence ?
I need some legal clarity here.
EFF FINANCIALS ARE ABOUT TO BECOME PUBLIC DOMAIN
Especially after not disclosing a single cent in this last election, i can just imagine what they will find from reports of 5 years ago to time when the EFF more mouth than brain - they are smarter now, there are educated people on their brand management.
Wrll, according to President Zuma vs Downer and Maughn, once submitted to the court, it is within public domain. No one must be prosecuted for that.
You have a lot of info now. Start doing your work.
Shame on those in the ANC, EFF and MK to steal from the poor. They live in luxury and in the best suburbs!!!
VF+ and DA stay in informal settlement perhaps?
Tell us about steinhoff 😂
@@Bhulingwe are you on drugs or something?
@@silaskhalishwayo what do you know about them?
Question already asked but whilst leaking of documents not correct it should not overshadow the information contained in such documents and in this instance, it is extremely important that the claims are fully investigated and if found there is a case against Malema and Shivambu and EFF that they are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. But clear that because Malema is apparently involved the NPA for unknown reasons stalling on it.
I understand that it could jeopardise cases but this is the best thing that could have happened. Now the public will demand accountability and thorough explanation if people are not convicted.
Gayton Mckenzie will expose them
Your MacKenzie he's just big mouth without doing his work
5:23 He is talking rubbish and he knows it.
NPA AND HAWKS..long captured. For 7 years whats there to cover up🤨
Maybe the NPA is smarter than a lot of fools here, who think that an affidavit from a thief trying to get a lighter sentence is enough to be presented before a sober judge. He claims that he went to meet EFF leaders alone, no texts, no appointments and no bank records what a shame.
Uselles NPA u are talking abt the Leaked u are bizi searching for the Leaked person why dnt u Arrest Malema n Shivambo we need the Scorpion
😂😂😂There's no evidence against malema and shivambu mos and affidavit can't be used to prosecute others 😂😂
Min.Gayton Mckenzie must go and exposed these guys... cover ups.
Mr Tsotsi 😂😂😂
Mr Rama Tsotsi ?
NPA is like a sieve with no filters at all. No justification is enough to pacify what has happened. We live in a democracy. Media doing its work period. Assange syndrome will not work in SA. 3:44
Mthunzi forget about the lick arrest perpetrators
@@sifisodube4686 leak
Crime. Arrest them. How dare a whistleblower tell the public what is going on. Revealing the truth is an unlawful act and must be criminalised. The cover up was at an advanced stage and now all that work was for nothing. Now fingers have been pointed and action will have to be taken.
these guys have been delayed for years in this matter.
Surely an affidavit in a plea agreement is a public record before the court.
Whats the secret?
Wrel, according to President Zuma vs Downer and Maughn, once submitted to the court, it is within public domain. No one must be prosecuted for that.
Agreed but not admissible against other parties that are not yet charged or have not yet have their cases commence. The audi alteram partem rule applies to everyone including EFF. No amount of hate or biases against them/ it can do away with that fundamental principle of our law.
We the public need to know what happens when with the money and the chotsies pay back the money 🤑
It also has the potential to get the truth out into the public domain where often these things are swept under the table, over and over again.
Afro forum please assist the poor and arrest malema and shivambu
They are racist
😂😂😂😂and let apartheid white people Scott free 😂😂who stole land and money
This all smells propaganda by the apartheid forces. The New apartheid is really alive and kicking.
😂😂😂So assisting the poor is to arrest Malema and Shivambu, they don't even have a right to state their case?
jou moer 😊
NPA NEVER GOES SERIOUS WITH PROSECUTIONS. JUST LOOK AT THE WAY NPA IS NEGLETING THE HARD WORK DONE FOR THE CALLED ZONDO'S REPORT. HE SHOULD TELL US WHAT MEASURES WERE TAKEN. WHICH TEAM HAD THIS AFFIDAVITTY UNDER ITS POSSESSION. SIMPLY AS THAT.
So you cannot work a plan to hide the facts now that is your problem
Court Documents are public documents
This spokesperson is wortied about trivial things
What want transparency the NPA has been on this case for years and only one person has been sentenced what seems to be the hold up?
The case would just disappear if it wasn’t leaked. Strange how using an incorrect word immediately gets you fined and convicted. All South African citizens are clearly not equal under the law.
Give it Gayton Mac kenzi
You out of order wena sbhanxa
What is that???
Big mouth without doing his work
All this information should be public knowledge. We've known for a long time the named persons are guilty so come on we the public should know this info. We're not ignorant kids.
I like the way your hand is walking on that table jumping at times but stable expose them Spiderman 🕷 🕸
This one is a EFF member.
Because he is going against the tide and mainstream media!!!
Hahaha 🤣 I was thinking the same thing. EFF is a Cult anyway
Hiding behind your mother's skirt😂
U wish kwaaa nothing relax hater
You're talking nonsense wena rubbish
I thought that when an accused has pleaded guilty, the entirety of their guilty plea, (not a certain part of it) is read in record publicly so that the public knows what is it that they are pleading guilty to! Technically, what happened here is no leaking but a lawful act of making a guilty plea of a criminal public.
if the affidavit is leaked and nobody is arrested, the leaking has the blessing of NPA
Decades ago .
.
Alkes in SA korrupt 😮
Will the whistleblowers be prorected ?
No, what you say is not going down well, all citizens of SA should no whats going on. 😮
It doesn't matter Who leaked the affidavit, justice must take it's course. Many victims have been left penniless.
It is out in the open now and if those people don't get prosecuted then the people will be very upset!!!
Why are the NPA so terrified of politicians?
We voted for criminals ,eix!
we love OUR PEOPLES AND FIGHT FOR THE POOR 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I have great respect for this seasoned spokesperson, that he could come and spew such gibberish. Vbs case is not a complex matter. You are making it difficult by delaying the prosecution of politicians
Nonsense u failed to arrest ramaphosa on phala phala saga and Glencoe
Indeed and even steinhof
Landani aba babini be EFF 😂😂😂😂
You will wait until you become pale and grey, EFF is not going anywhere, courts work with evidence not some leaks.
Where is the stolen money?
This guy's demeanor fully reminds me of the personality of the late former president of Zimbabwe comrade ROBERT MUGABE!!!
This leak was deliberate to facilitate a stalingrand on this case. They will concentrate on who leaked the affidavit than politicians facing the might of the law.
THE TRUTH WILL OUT. THE TRUTH IS THE TRUTH: I WANT TRANPARENCE
What difference does it make that the affidavit was leaked? Facts are facts and cannot be changed.
And in Gauteng they want another looting platform, provincial government bank😅
leaked should make no difference, it just confirms what we have known all along.
Next Parliamentary Portfolio committee you will be asked.
Both the VBS and Phalaphala had donation's Tax implication and it was evaded. Remember that Income Taxpayers as you submit your tax returns next week.
When was this affidavit made. Must have been when deal was made. So 5 year and nothing happened.
That affidavit must be public information. . .we, the citizens, deserve to know what's happening in government. They are trying to hide their corruption
The handlers of the affidavit are incompetent, charge them for negligence! Incompetence smells bad!
"Let's allow the law to take its course".
How was it leaked? And why?
Lack or not leak people need their money boy don't cover up anything
Pay back nje
Mthunzi that's so well explained.
The NPA has been quite all this years and im afraid that if this afidavid is all they have, our time will just be wasted. I have zero faith on this organization, they must just be disbanded.
Thought the court record is a public document since matter is finalised
Media more concerned about the leak instead of focussing on the people implicated 😮
NPA wanted to dispose of the case, and the person who leaked the affidavit did well. Victims were shocked when 400 years reduced to 15 years
We need that information 😢
Dig deeper into the EFF Julius and Shivambu with VBS Bank! Julius must not be protected!
fotsek
What about Senzo Meyiwa's case why are they not helping Meyiwa family
Where there's smoke there's fire 🔥
Name of the anchor? She's always asking the right questions!
Mtunnzi was found guilty. Its in the public domain. Why could his affadavit not be published 😢😢😢😢
According to President Zuma vs Downer and Maughn, once submitted to the court, it is within public domain. No one must be prosecuted for that. So stop saying you'll go for the one who leaked this affidavit
Isn't that affidavit in the public domain once it has been submitted in a case?
The NPA will never touch Pauli van wyk as she is the one who leaked the so called VBS saga
Can some1 help me understand here,what is 419 yrs for if matodzi will only serve 15 yrs .im totally confused here
He offered to name make an affidavit which implicates more people to get his sentence reduced😂
Plea bargain was not neccessary on this matter when the info was covered on the corruption that occured there.
Mr Mhaga you are talking kaka.What is sad is the fact that the NPA constantly fumbles and drops the ball when ever some famous politician has to face the music.. We South Africans are simply tired of your bull sh%&#. NPA do your job that is what you get paid for and stop being puppets on a string.
These fools protect each other. They don't have the poor people interest. Under these fools black people will keep on suffering. NPA is a joke. They protect their brother's. Those poor people not going to get justice.
Corruption .. NPA is afraid
What is the use of an affidavit authored by a convicted criminal? He was exonerating himself from the sole responsibility of his actions and wanted a deal in return. Guarantee you, he will refuse to testify should he be called upon to give depositions for prosecution of the alleged names. Those who are vested in law will tell you.
Haha, they leaked it diliberately so that Malema does not go to jail
Matodzi given 15 years for agreeing to mention Malema and Floyd.