He put a hell of a lot of work into making this, FairPlay to him. For me the xenon’s are superior as in further and wider, and more clarity, the LEDs are slightly brighter, but the xenon’s are more high definition
Xenon looks to be the better with range visibility. But I do prefer the warm glow of the halogen. I’m upgrading from halogen to xenon! Thank u for the video. Very informative.
"Xenon looks to be the better with range visibility. But I do prefer the warm glow of the halogen. I’m upgrading from halogen to xenon! Thank u for the video. Very informative." @edvinjimenez, In that case, you can try Xenon with around 3500K color temperature, which is the closest to the warm glow of the halogen
Best video demonstrating the differences I watched quite a few and none of them were so straightforward interestingly the LED never had as much coverage I thought I am installing xenon in my car right now but I'm glad I checked this video out first it confirmed that I'm making the right move
When in comes to halogen, the design of the reflector matters a lot. I could always see a huge difference between my c classes, s203 vs w204. Hoping that when I get one with xenon's/ILS I get better low beams, as the high beams are already bright enough!
Fantastic video. Great work. Lingering a little longer on the facts should improve it even more. Conclusion: I wish I could combine the warm halogen colour with xenon's range. Not being possible, prefer the xenon. Thanks very much for a professional, music-(noise)-free demonstration, with no excitable, stupid chat. Regards.
Probably the best video I've ever seen regarding the light bulb illumination source type. Most cars, especially old ones, got the halogen lamp installed which is not bad. It can be easily improved with some LED's (I'm referring to cars headlights that have no embedded LED's). This upgrade is cheap, easy to install and low consumption. There is a noticeable difference between the halogen and the rest. (and not only the colour temperature) I also noticed that there is a slightly difference between the xenon and the LED's. Defo! the xenon looks much brighter on a country road but they come with a price. I'm gonna wait for the next LED generation. What a nice video and thanks for spending the time creating it!
Not much difference between Xenon LED in terms of illumination level. As far as I know that has to do that Xenon already puts out as much light as its allowed on european roads.
No LED low beams sold in Europe or anywhere for that matter have an output that’s even close to xenons, especially BMWs. Most LEDs are like the “low energy” xenons which were offered a few years ago.
Geat video, seems like LED will work fine on my next car, I have Xenon right now that I am really happy with, seems like there isnt too much difference between Xenon and Led
LEDs is the way to go. That’s why I upgraded from halogen to LEDs in my Skoda Octavia with projector headlights including the main beam and yellow LEDs in the fog lights! I don’t care what people say about you can only use halogen or they need to be warmer yellow is the best colour for all weather day and night!
12:07 It seems good, the halogens seemed a bit less brighter on high beam while the xenon’s don’t. However the xenons seem too bright at times that you can’t see the road completely for a few seconds sometimes. Overall better but I’m guessing the xenon’s may not be so good in fog?
strong and direct to the point, maybe missing in numbers how much brighter each type is in a straight forward number (in warmth / brightness-shine/Lumens). But still very informative video.
If you take the brightest xenons, which are adaptive xenons from bmw, and brightest LEDs which are from BMW too. Xenons are much brighter. It all is because of costs reasons. The difference is about 15%
@@Brian-jv8iySome of it is also down to xenons having a strike time and the performance of them generally degrading with time much faster than LEDs. With that said, I am sure cost factors into it as well
God Bless German thoroughness! You provided a very nuanced comparison for real world night driving aspects. Mercedes mechanically steered Xenon's were able to extend the usefulness of the beam that other brands will not. The newer switchable did LED's still couldn't match the 50' post detail of the old physically steered and leveled xenon's. LEDs just created a harsh hot spot in front of the car but were unable to spread and project beams like Mercedes steered Xenon's. Sadly realtime on-demand physically steered Xenon projectors are gone in favor of stationery switchable diode LED's. These results are going to upset a lot of people. Xenon performance is being maximized by virtuoso Mercedes engineering in a way rudimentary brands can't replicate with their "dumb passive" projectors. Imagine the Mercedes results with an all Xenon strategy.
Glad to see Mercedes funs here but.....it is not true. It is not just Mercedes designing great lights. There is quite a few including Audi, Volvo, Subaru as some examples . You may want to see the tests. And yes it can be done with LED technology. And remember: what you see on your screen is quite far away from reality (the white spot on many screens is just low dynamic range of such devises). Cheers
@@myslecinaczej8674Driven mechanically steerable Bi-Xenon's and switchable matrix LED's in identical Mercedes Classes. Steerable Bi-Xenon's with their big optically tuned German lenses can cover so much more wide area while reaching further into the night. Upgrading to 75 Watt bulbs makes it no contest: Upgraded Xenon performance is still superior to new LED's. Xenon's offer that distinct advantage of huge aftermarket improvement.
Thanks for a great summary! Possibly you are right but...the safety agencies tests do not show any obvious supremacy of Mercedes company. I want to see the numbers/charts/comparative analysis...not just wishful thinking that something made by a Germany brand must be the best. History says it is not always the case (also with Mercedes ...) I am an engineer so give me data :) Still, it is great to argue in a a constructive way!
Forgot to add...the Xenons in my Volvo are really good...so good that I do not miss LEDs. If Merc made it even better .....great for the owners. But the "better"is these days marginal, in many cases. The "good" is good enough! Hope you agree. Well, at least this great comparative presentation proved that the Xenons are not that far away yet and still alive and competing.
@@myslecinaczej8674 Hey I can respect that. I'm a driver so ultimately the visual results on the road will direct my judgement. Numbers, graphs even projections on walls are but a measurement in time and space. The result on a standardized given road is the deciding factor for me. Mercedes development of mechanically steered headlights with the intelligence to also adjust rake and pitch according to traffic and terrain conditions deserves recognition for advancing automotive illumination technology. Terrific because they're so upgradable when better Xenon bulbs and ballasts come out. I particularly like the wider ranging Kelvin temperatures available with Xenon's vs. LED's
I've always prefered simple design and I wish car manufacturers would use LEDs but with the same simple design of halogens. Even the cars themselves would look better with simpler and smaller design
It's interesting that you would choose to use very different temperatures between Xenon and LED. The lower temp Xenon looks as bright as the LED that is 1500k higher
Com certeza o xénon é o melhor de todos! Led ilumina bem em curta distância e há sombras ,xénon preenche toda a extensão com seu bulbo no projetor e a halogena ja foi seu tempo.
The Smart Fortwo in this video has very good halogen headlights. The halogen headlights in my BMW E46 are terrible. It may have something to do with the reflector design and size, I dunno. I haven’t had a bad experience with HID. It’s still my favorite because it’s more nicely spread, softer on the eyes, and I prefer the warmer 4300k color temperature to LED’s cooler color. I’ve had mixed experiences with LED. Many cars come with LEDs but in a reflector housing, like the new honda CRV. I don’t like it because the cutoff looks scattered and it’s not very bright. I have a toyota with projector LED headlights and they’re very bright but the range is not as far as HID. And another problem I have with LED is that in some cars, the cutoff is very sharp. Some people like it but I think it’s distracting, especially since the color temperature is very cool. I think HID is still the best, provided it’s installed and adjusted properly (not installed in a reflector housing made for halogen).
I have active bi xenon on my Volvo XC90. The xenon lens moves up and there is a aditionial H7 halogen bulb to get as much light as possible. I think it works really good, there is alot of light output when both are active.
Hi sir , is xenon projector headlights good for rainy and winter conditions? Because my daily travel for work is around 250 kms so I want a headlights with clear visibility at night . BTW I'm going to buy Tata Harrier for myself but I'm confused about what headlights should I consider. Please let me know what you think
Xenon and LED are the best. For rainy and winter conditions you want to use warmer light around 4000k (kelvin). If you use bulb that is over 6000k so its pretty much white, you will have worse light in winter or rainy conditions because whiter light reflects back to you from rain.
Very Nice video Man, straight to the point, in this video xenon and led seems to be equal, but in real life the led is better, especially on high range cars, I have halogen on my car with magnifying glass and IT s total shit (2013 KIA ceed). Cheers man
@@Brian-jv8iyI agree. The only good side of leds is that they don't destroy your projectors with high energy emissions like xenons. It should good for more than 10 years anyways so I'm not sure if a switch to a led form a xenon would be worth it. They are not brighter than xenons are break more
LEDs are cheaper to make and have no easily replaceable elements. Cost per unit at dealer is the same but it’s cheaper to sell LEDs than xenons with various elements
What was/were the same parameter(s) from all the bulb theirselves? I saw the color temperature were different. What about wattages? And last but not least, what about the prices of each bulb-set (including electrical system)?
If you live in country with lots of fog, stick with halogen. Say low beam halogen, main hid. Also hid with shutter gives a sharp cutoff, which halogen more blends, not so harsh on the eyes.
I switched from a car with halogen to a bixenon one and the later one is simply blind during the night. But from this video looks like I just have to take it to a service because xenons should be a lot brighter than halogen.
Políticos do Brasil por favor liberem o uso do Xenon e Led. São muito mais seguros de dirigir à noite. Em todos os outros países o uso é permitido por lei sem burocracia, fora o insufilm na frente.
Look into Osram fog breakers or Auxito 3000k yellow LED bulbs. Those bulbs are supposed to penetrate fog a lot better than white. White light just reflects straight back and seeing a wall of fog!
Test the LEDs of Mercedes E Multibeam, S-Class Multibeam w/ ultra range leds (I believe it was called), BMW G30 w/ adaptive, Audi Q2 or Skoda Karoq. Those are some of the best LEDs currently on the market with the S-Class having the best high beams of all time.
He put a hell of a lot of work into making this, FairPlay to him. For me the xenon’s are superior as in further and wider, and more clarity, the LEDs are slightly brighter, but the xenon’s are more high definition
Underrated video, it’s very nice and gave me the full information about these 3 types
Thank you very much =)
@@XiAquarii You are welcome
@@XiAquariiextraordinary video !! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 thank you very much for your effort
Xenon looks to be the better with range visibility. But I do prefer the warm glow of the halogen. I’m upgrading from halogen to xenon! Thank u for the video. Very informative.
"Xenon looks to be the better with range visibility. But I do prefer the warm glow of the halogen. I’m upgrading from halogen to xenon! Thank u for the video. Very informative."
@edvinjimenez, In that case, you can try Xenon with around 3500K color temperature, which is the closest to the warm glow of the halogen
Best video demonstrating the differences I watched quite a few and none of them were so straightforward interestingly the LED never had as much coverage I thought I am installing xenon in my car right now but I'm glad I checked this video out first it confirmed that I'm making the right move
Brilliant video , really helped me determine the difference between xenon and led
When in comes to halogen, the design of the reflector matters a lot. I could always see a huge difference between my c classes, s203 vs w204.
Hoping that when I get one with xenon's/ILS I get better low beams, as the high beams are already bright enough!
Fantastic video. Great work. Lingering a little longer on the facts should improve it even more.
Conclusion: I wish I could combine the warm halogen colour with xenon's range. Not being possible, prefer the xenon.
Thanks very much for a professional, music-(noise)-free demonstration, with no excitable, stupid chat.
Regards.
Thank you very much for this comment =)
Yes that warm color will make the visibility better in rainy times.
I think you can
Switching to 3000k lumen power HID might improve visibility during heavy rain or snowstorms
@@ksolai8888 Just seen your reply.
Thanks.
@@yolo747 How I'd be thrilled to design a car, experimenting with such details.
Thanks.
Probably the best video I've ever seen regarding the light bulb illumination source type.
Most cars, especially old ones, got the halogen lamp installed which is not bad. It can be easily improved with some LED's (I'm referring to cars headlights that have no embedded LED's). This upgrade is cheap, easy to install and low consumption. There is a noticeable difference between the halogen and the rest. (and not only the colour temperature)
I also noticed that there is a slightly difference between the xenon and the LED's.
Defo! the xenon looks much brighter on a country road but they come with a price. I'm gonna wait for the next LED generation.
What a nice video and thanks for spending the time creating it!
The xenon light looks so evenly lit compared to the other ones.
Xenon is more deep than led
Great video, thanks for creating it. It even covers the mist cases 🙏.
The Xenon light seems quite smooth and uniform in this video.
This is the most helpful video on this topic. Thank for the information!
Not much difference between Xenon LED in terms of illumination level. As far as I know that has to do that Xenon already puts out as much light as its allowed on european roads.
No LED low beams sold in Europe or anywhere for that matter have an output that’s even close to xenons, especially BMWs.
Most LEDs are like the “low energy” xenons which were offered a few years ago.
Geat video, seems like LED will work fine on my next car, I have Xenon right now that I am really happy with, seems like there isnt too much difference between Xenon and Led
Maybe the only fair video I've seen, not another one of those "influencer" type, heavily edited videos.
Thanks, I always try to be as objective as possible =)
LEDs is the way to go. That’s why I upgraded from halogen to LEDs in my Skoda Octavia with projector headlights including the main beam and yellow LEDs in the fog lights! I don’t care what people say about you can only use halogen or they need to be warmer yellow is the best colour for all weather day and night!
12:07 It seems good, the halogens seemed a bit less brighter on high beam while the xenon’s don’t. However the xenons seem too bright at times that you can’t see the road completely for a few seconds sometimes. Overall better but I’m guessing the xenon’s may not be so good in fog?
Both xenon and led are terrible for fog. Hence why you use fog lights.
@@shadowpwls3 yeah. My car has bixenon headlights with halogen fog lamps.
strong and direct to the point, maybe missing in numbers how much brighter each type is in a straight forward number (in warmth / brightness-shine/Lumens). But still very informative video.
If you take the brightest xenons, which are adaptive xenons from bmw, and brightest LEDs which are from BMW too. Xenons are much brighter.
It all is because of costs reasons.
The difference is about 15%
@@Brian-jv8iySome of it is also down to xenons having a strike time and the performance of them generally degrading with time much faster than LEDs. With that said, I am sure cost factors into it as well
Thanks for showing the differents !
I learned to respect xenon's when I went to replace one and the person at the autoparts store strongly recommended I go to a Volvo mechanic or dealer.
God Bless German thoroughness! You provided a very nuanced comparison for real world night driving aspects. Mercedes mechanically steered Xenon's were able to extend the usefulness of the beam that other brands will not. The newer switchable did LED's still couldn't match the 50' post detail of the old physically steered and leveled xenon's. LEDs just created a harsh hot spot in front of the car but were unable to spread and project beams like Mercedes steered Xenon's. Sadly realtime on-demand physically steered Xenon projectors are gone in favor of stationery switchable diode LED's. These results are going to upset a lot of people. Xenon performance is being maximized by virtuoso Mercedes engineering in a way rudimentary brands can't replicate with their "dumb passive" projectors. Imagine the Mercedes results with an all Xenon strategy.
Glad to see Mercedes funs here but.....it is not true. It is not just Mercedes designing great lights. There is quite a few including Audi, Volvo, Subaru as some examples . You may want to see the tests. And yes it can be done with LED technology.
And remember: what you see on your screen is quite far away from reality (the white spot on many screens is just low dynamic range of such devises). Cheers
@@myslecinaczej8674Driven mechanically steerable Bi-Xenon's and switchable matrix LED's in identical Mercedes Classes. Steerable Bi-Xenon's with their big optically tuned German lenses can cover so much more wide area while reaching further into the night. Upgrading to 75 Watt bulbs makes it no contest: Upgraded Xenon performance is still superior to new LED's. Xenon's offer that distinct advantage of huge aftermarket improvement.
Thanks for a great summary! Possibly you are right but...the safety agencies tests do not show any obvious supremacy of Mercedes company.
I want to see the numbers/charts/comparative analysis...not just wishful thinking that something made by a Germany brand must be the best.
History says it is not always the case (also with Mercedes ...)
I am an engineer so give me data :)
Still, it is great to argue in a a constructive way!
Forgot to add...the Xenons in my Volvo are really good...so good that I do not miss LEDs. If Merc made it even better .....great for the owners. But the "better"is these days marginal, in many cases. The "good" is good enough! Hope you agree.
Well, at least this great comparative presentation proved that the Xenons are not that far away yet and still alive and competing.
@@myslecinaczej8674 Hey I can respect that. I'm a driver so ultimately the visual results on the road will direct my judgement. Numbers, graphs even projections on walls are but a measurement in time and space. The result on a standardized given road is the deciding factor for me. Mercedes development of mechanically steered headlights with the intelligence to also adjust rake and pitch according to traffic and terrain conditions deserves recognition for advancing automotive illumination technology. Terrific because they're so upgradable when better Xenon bulbs and ballasts come out. I particularly like the wider ranging Kelvin temperatures available with Xenon's vs. LED's
That’s a cracking video well done sir.
Thank you, sir! Glad to hear this.
I put my full beams on when I go past a HID or LED car without projectors. It’s very fun.
I've always prefered simple design and I wish car manufacturers would use LEDs but with the same simple design of halogens. Even the cars themselves would look better with simpler and smaller design
Absolute unit of a car test. Thank you!
It's interesting that you would choose to use very different temperatures between Xenon and LED. The lower temp Xenon looks as bright as the LED that is 1500k higher
Light temperature has absolutely nothing to do with brightness.
Xenons winning. Nice wide and even coverage
Xenon seems to be the best
Com certeza o xénon é o melhor de todos! Led ilumina bem em curta distância e há sombras ,xénon preenche toda a extensão com seu bulbo no projetor e a halogena ja foi seu tempo.
Nice job..! Well done. I would like to know which Xenon bulb was used in this comparison video ?
Be warned. Xenon ballasts can hold up to 33,000 volts. Handle with care if upgrading to Xenons.
Thank you very much. Very helpful video.
Xenon in a projector headlight for me…..but to be fair, the old halogens were easier on the eyes for fatigue
The Smart Fortwo in this video has very good halogen headlights. The halogen headlights in my BMW E46 are terrible. It may have something to do with the reflector design and size, I dunno. I haven’t had a bad experience with HID. It’s still my favorite because it’s more nicely spread, softer on the eyes, and I prefer the warmer 4300k color temperature to LED’s cooler color. I’ve had mixed experiences with LED. Many cars come with LEDs but in a reflector housing, like the new honda CRV. I don’t like it because the cutoff looks scattered and it’s not very bright. I have a toyota with projector LED headlights and they’re very bright but the range is not as far as HID. And another problem I have with LED is that in some cars, the cutoff is very sharp. Some people like it but I think it’s distracting, especially since the color temperature is very cool. I think HID is still the best, provided it’s installed and adjusted properly (not installed in a reflector housing made for halogen).
Great video! But at 12:07 you state "high beam Bi Xenon + halogen H7". doesn't Bi Xenon imply that both low- and high beam are Xenon?
they use an h7 halogen on certain "bi-directional xenon" vehicles, for example the golf 7
I have active bi xenon on my Volvo XC90. The xenon lens moves up and there is a aditionial H7 halogen bulb to get as much light as possible. I think it works really good, there is alot of light output when both are active.
It has 2 bulbs per headlight. 1 is bi-xenon and 1 is halogen. Both working when high beam.
Xenon is the gold standard of illumination
Hi sir , is xenon projector headlights good for rainy and winter conditions? Because my daily travel for work is around 250 kms so I want a headlights with clear visibility at night . BTW I'm going to buy Tata Harrier for myself but I'm confused about what headlights should I consider. Please let me know what you think
Xenon and LED are the best. For rainy and winter conditions you want to use warmer light around 4000k (kelvin). If you use bulb that is over 6000k so its pretty much white, you will have worse light in winter or rainy conditions because whiter light reflects back to you from rain.
250km per day for work? Ghad dayum
Very Nice video Man, straight to the point, in this video xenon and led seems to be equal, but in real life the led is better, especially on high range cars, I have halogen on my car with magnifying glass and IT s total shit (2013 KIA ceed). Cheers man
they also have a habbit of blinding everyone.
Lol no. Xenons are better on paper and in the real world too. No LED low beams are brighter or in any way “better” than best xenons.
@@Brian-jv8iyI agree. The only good side of leds is that they don't destroy your projectors with high energy emissions like xenons. It should good for more than 10 years anyways so I'm not sure if a switch to a led form a xenon would be worth it. They are not brighter than xenons are break more
Halogen light colour is good for health and good for mist place on night drive 👍
halogen is natural light, nice to through the fog or black asphalt when wet, maybe The LED is set like a halogen color👍
Does xenon 8500k require relay ?
LEDs seem more versatile but not necessarily better than xenon’s judging from this video.
Why isn’t the xenon light in a 2017 model as well? Wouldn’t the xenon light technology have advanced over time?
LEDs are cheaper to make and have no easily replaceable elements.
Cost per unit at dealer is the same but it’s cheaper to sell LEDs than xenons with various elements
The Xenon's are looking better.
Xenon is the best
What was/were the same parameter(s) from all the bulb theirselves?
I saw the color temperature were different. What about wattages?
And last but not least, what about the prices of each bulb-set (including electrical system)?
If you live in country with lots of fog, stick with halogen. Say low beam halogen, main hid. Also hid with shutter gives a sharp cutoff, which halogen more blends, not so harsh on the eyes.
I liked light direction smooth and powerful
I would take the brightest LED low beams and put a slight yellow tint on it
Xenon is the unbeatable best.
Bye bye LEDs...
Well put video
I switched from a car with halogen to a bixenon one and the later one is simply blind during the night. But from this video looks like I just have to take it to a service because xenons should be a lot brighter than halogen.
Xenon is the best but on high beam it was xenon plus halogen
Xenon is the best...
Políticos do Brasil por favor liberem o uso do Xenon e Led. São muito mais seguros de dirigir à noite. Em todos os outros países o uso é permitido por lei sem burocracia, fora o insufilm na frente.
Nice!
Am I only one who prefer halogen?
Yes
Once i put in LEDs, it was hard to go back to halogens lol
When there is fog. The white lights reflects back. More than the yellow Halogen bulbs. White light is a cold color. Yellow light is a warm color.
Thats true, yellow light is better under bad weather conditions.
Look into Osram fog breakers or Auxito 3000k yellow LED bulbs. Those bulbs are supposed to penetrate fog a lot better than white. White light just reflects straight back and seeing a wall of fog!
It may not show up on camera...but LED ironically is more intense than HID. LEDs give a stronger output...
Test the LEDs of Mercedes E Multibeam, S-Class Multibeam w/ ultra range leds (I believe it was called), BMW G30 w/ adaptive, Audi Q2 or Skoda Karoq. Those are some of the best LEDs currently on the market with the S-Class having the best high beams of all time.
i am looking at the new kuga phev with leds,need good lights as i wear contact lens any views anyone?
my car has led low beam and halogen high beam. i prefer the led.
I been running LEDs in projector dip and main for quite a long time and they do work a lot better
HID's are still king if you ask me. LED's are still not quite there. Halogens are pretty much obsolete at this point - useless candles.
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