Lessons in Magecraft 16 - Geis

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  • @otakudaikun
    @otakudaikun  4 роки тому +64

    If you could place a Geis on someone, what would it be?

    • @johnsullivan9064
      @johnsullivan9064 4 роки тому +54

      Every politician ever.
      Thou shalt not lie, nor obfuscate the truth. Your words will be whole and complete, lacking any deception capable to the human mind. If asked a question, you shall be compelled to fully and clearly answer with all the knowledge you possess on the topic.

    • @jgphoenix4404
      @jgphoenix4404 4 роки тому +20

      I'd put one on myself. A compulsion to create (writing, artwork, etc). I'm not sure what the conditions would be, though. Maybe a trigger based on the time of day or a key phrase.

    • @hydrasfang
      @hydrasfang 4 роки тому +17

      Probably myself so I would actually finish the stories I've started but left unfinished.

    • @daweithisisdavidinmandarin6121
      @daweithisisdavidinmandarin6121 4 роки тому +10

      I would put a Geis on people to see the world from other people eyes.

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  4 роки тому +7

      That's brilliant and completely fair.

  • @madambutterfly1997
    @madambutterfly1997 3 роки тому +102

    Lancer: No one likes to Heroes who got off scot-free just ask my buddy Fergus. A blind spearman got him, while swimming. Sucks to be Fergus sucks to be you.

  • @mercenarygundam1487
    @mercenarygundam1487 3 роки тому +79

    Geis: The equivalent of bringing a gun that jams to a swordfight. It will work until it suddenly doesn't and puts you at a disadvantage.

  • @fearjunkie
    @fearjunkie 3 роки тому +49

    "I, Lelouch vi Brittania, command you to-"
    ....wait, wrong series.

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  3 роки тому +12

      Yeah, it doesn't work like that lol

    • @Overclownfidence
      @Overclownfidence 5 місяців тому

      @@otakudaikun while Geis/Geas are never shown to be like that in fate, they very well could to a certain extent, in many myths they are imposed on others hence the curse/gift nature because if followed you would gain power but they are a command or prohibition. the implication being that at least in certain situations it doesn't need the will of one party to be imposed on them. the only time we see one used it's specifically a SELF Geas scroll, where both parties are willingly binding themselves to a contract. Based off the name you could reason normal geas could be imposed on others unconsensually hence the curse aspect. That being said its likely that you would need to fulfill certain conditions to do so, or maybe need to be significantly stronger so it wouldn't be resisted, it may have weaker consequences etc.... or maybe it would just be that modern mages couldn't impose them without consent due to the difference in mages between modern/other eras.

  • @Furigou
    @Furigou 3 роки тому +66

    Ah, so this is how ancient disputes between mages were settled, a good old contest of "ur mom geis"

  • @madambutterfly1997
    @madambutterfly1997 3 роки тому +64

    Mystic eyes? yay we get to talk about the 2 Shiki's, the sister slammer and the second best saber

    • @casteanpreswyn7528
      @casteanpreswyn7528 3 роки тому +8

      "Second best", excuse you?

    • @madambutterfly1997
      @madambutterfly1997 3 роки тому +5

      @@casteanpreswyn7528 sorry Nero's my first love as far as Sabers go.

    • @casteanpreswyn7528
      @casteanpreswyn7528 3 роки тому +6

      @@madambutterfly1997 you're wrong, but I respect your opinion.

    • @madambutterfly1997
      @madambutterfly1997 3 роки тому +4

      @@casteanpreswyn7528 how dare you speak blasphemy and talk shit about my UMU

  • @majutsushisliceoflife
    @majutsushisliceoflife 3 роки тому +37

    I'm reminded once again, that as fascinating as the worlds of Type-Moon are , they'd be absolutely terrifying to live in.

  • @tylertinney8294
    @tylertinney8294 3 роки тому +50

    The moral of these stories? Don’t sign anything without a mage/lawyer to explain it to you.

  • @madambutterfly1997
    @madambutterfly1997 3 роки тому +25

    If I were Gilgamesh's master in a grail war, I'd bind him with a geis, forcing him to take every battle seriously.

    • @GnosisZX
      @GnosisZX 3 роки тому +6

      He be plotting to kill you for that

    • @madambutterfly1997
      @madambutterfly1997 3 роки тому +4

      @@GnosisZX not at his Noble Phantasm is the collateral if he violates the Geis

    • @runelt99
      @runelt99 3 роки тому +16

      Isn't the point of a geis is that it's taken on voluntaraly? Gil would have you skewered before you say 'your majesty'. Plus as a master you have command seals that can do exactly that.

    • @matthewallen2273
      @matthewallen2273 3 роки тому +10

      @@runelt99 let's not forget that thanks to independent action the death of his master isn't such a big deal, and his magic resistance rank E would buy him enough time to him to attack if he received an order he didn't like.

    • @matthewallen2273
      @matthewallen2273 3 роки тому +9

      @@madambutterfly1997 out of all his treasures, if he had one like Rule Breaker, he could null invoid the gei, freeing him to attack you. Not a chance worth taking.

  • @madambutterfly1997
    @madambutterfly1997 3 роки тому +39

    I wonder what would happen if Angra Mainyu's mud mixed with Tiamat's sea of life. Now I'm just imagining a a nuke of magic energy and curses

    • @okita_souji_alter
      @okita_souji_alter 3 роки тому +13

      Most likely tiamats authority would outrank his unless they were working together

    • @madambutterfly1997
      @madambutterfly1997 3 роки тому +8

      @@okita_souji_alter they'd create alter servants who hate humanity

    • @okita_souji_alter
      @okita_souji_alter 3 роки тому +5

      @@madambutterfly1997 yea but tiamat's mud is the mud that creates life itself so it would override angra's hatred

    • @WildArtistsl
      @WildArtistsl 2 роки тому

      The nuke like mess holy

    • @zxshadowxz
      @zxshadowxz 2 роки тому +4

      The mud of the Holy Grail is basically just “chaos tide lite” so I imagine they’d must mesh together

  • @dustyanonymous8834
    @dustyanonymous8834 3 роки тому +12

    Alright I now know more knowledge about mage craft

  • @TimilehinOlaokun
    @TimilehinOlaokun 3 роки тому +36

    It would be cool if all of this was secretly real and we were all really knowledgeable mages if we had access to circuits

    • @okita_souji_alter
      @okita_souji_alter 3 роки тому +5

      Who knows it could be real

    • @themultiversegamer551
      @themultiversegamer551 3 роки тому +3

      They legends maybe we did back in BC AD times possibly :/

    • @ibukunanjorin9054
      @ibukunanjorin9054 3 роки тому +1

      Well, as a Nigerian, I'm sure you already know a thing or two about magic...

    • @marsyandhaazalia6155
      @marsyandhaazalia6155 3 роки тому +1

      Well as a Southeast Asian I can tell you that there's a lot of messing around with spirits and black magic

    • @TimilehinOlaokun
      @TimilehinOlaokun 3 роки тому +3

      @@ibukunanjorin9054 yeah that's not really the kind of magic anyone should ever get into

  • @cedricsommerscave
    @cedricsommerscave 3 роки тому +8

    Its strangly very interesting.

  • @ninjaeris131
    @ninjaeris131 3 роки тому +8

    Definitely said out loud, "Good Girl!" for the curse that mother did, it was well-deserved

  • @aminebachir3394
    @aminebachir3394 3 роки тому +8

    Hur dur, Kiritsugu abusing technicalities with Kayneth 😉🐵

  • @anubisgodess2353
    @anubisgodess2353 3 роки тому +6

    I couldn't skip this class that is something I don't know about that actually the first time I've heard of it I'll be sure to pay attention closely Daikun-sensai

  • @tacotuesday4496
    @tacotuesday4496 3 роки тому +10

    kiritsugu still hella based for that

  • @flygonkerel781
    @flygonkerel781 3 роки тому +11

    And here I've been pronouncing it like code Geass lol

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  3 роки тому +2

      Geass was definitely based on the concept of Geis, but I think it takes on its Japanese pronunciation.

  • @marky6456
    @marky6456 2 роки тому +1

    You know at first I thought the into was kinda cringe yet charming, but damn it adds so much to setting the tone and I ended up loving them lol.

  • @AntHonyTeisenKamijou
    @AntHonyTeisenKamijou 3 роки тому +5

    YES! I love this series!

  • @thomasthecoolkid7228
    @thomasthecoolkid7228 3 роки тому +6

    So sadly, there wasn't any mention of the shared pain curse here.
    Oh well. These things are still hella fun. I'd probably force people in charge into upmost honesty unless they want to go through ridiculous amounts of pain.

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  3 роки тому +2

      That wasn't specifically a geis. I believe I mentioned that curse in the previous lesson.

    • @thomasthecoolkid7228
      @thomasthecoolkid7228 3 роки тому

      @@otakudaikun No you did not! In fact, you said that it's probably in the next lesson, which is this!

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  3 роки тому +2

      @@thomasthecoolkid7228 Indeed. I didn't note it, but rather just paid homage to it through the pictures shown at the start. That might have been because I forgot to list it in the previous one.

    • @thomasthecoolkid7228
      @thomasthecoolkid7228 3 роки тому

      @@otakudaikun Gotcha

  • @madambutterfly1997
    @madambutterfly1997 3 роки тому +7

    Lucky Medb's cheese weakness isn't a Geis

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  3 роки тому +2

      Yeah, that was just a really deadly piece of cheese that got famous.

  • @BrianWilkersontheAuthor
    @BrianWilkersontheAuthor 6 місяців тому

    Geis, a magical contract. I wonder if this is something that Policies I'd ever involved in.

  • @jamesrknott
    @jamesrknott 3 роки тому +1

    Bravo 👏🏻 fantastic job Sir 👍🏻

  • @perdomot
    @perdomot 4 роки тому +14

    I hated what Maia did, even though Kayneth and Sola were scumbags. What really irked me was making Lancer kill himself in the middle of a great duel with Saber. Kinda hoped Saber would cut Maia in half for her treachery.

    • @ivanbluecool
      @ivanbluecool 3 роки тому +1

      Her knight did it while kidnapping irisviel so our kinda got your wish.
      Just shows how much of a failure of a king saber truly was with her people as said by gilgamesh and ishkander.

    • @hellblaze10
      @hellblaze10 3 роки тому +6

      @@ivanbluecool that's actually incorrect. Saber was an exelent king, remember it to years of minor betrayals to break Arthurs rule. Were saber went wrong is that she tried to be the perfect king, wich she was, but that ironically that made her knights see her as inhuman. Gilgamesh and iskandar have very different veiws on kingship because they didn't try to be that ideal king they just did what they wanted and were larger than life personalitys.

    • @okita_souji_alter
      @okita_souji_alter 3 роки тому +4

      @@ivanbluecool see saber is in no way a failure. Her people simply betrayed her cause she didn't understand emotions which she discarded at a young age. The anime adaptation for zero made it look like saber was in the wrong which she wasnt. It's a king's true duty to devote themselves to their people while also forming emotional bonds with their subjects which was her only mistake

    • @okita_souji_alter
      @okita_souji_alter 3 роки тому +7

      Maia was trained as an assasin by kiritsugu so I'm not gonna blame her cause kiritsugu gave her life purpose

    • @ivanbluecool
      @ivanbluecool 3 роки тому +2

      @@hellblaze10 sir kay saw immediately how her rule was gonna go and left as he wanted no part in it which is the biggest telling on how easy it was for a women to pretend to be a king and not have heirs to have a long term rule even without Merlin's magic.
      Plus she never wanted to be king she was forced into it and get kingdom fell as it was all stacked against her before she was even able to walk.

  • @fireisawesome1466
    @fireisawesome1466 3 роки тому +4

    Can we have a lore video on granblue fantasy especially "what makes the sky blue" arc

    • @vmgx
      @vmgx 3 роки тому +1

      .....why is the sky blue? 0.0

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  3 роки тому +3

      I love Granblue but I don't have the appropriate knowledge. I've only watched the anime.

  • @MagnusPercussus
    @MagnusPercussus 3 роки тому +2

    That was a good vid

  • @fearjunkie
    @fearjunkie 3 роки тому +6

    Wait, THAT'S how you pronounce geis??

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  3 роки тому +1

      It's one way I've heard it.

    • @agenti4734
      @agenti4734 3 роки тому +1

      I mean there is Code Geass' version which is another pronunciation.

  • @10-tailedrushmode8
    @10-tailedrushmode8 3 роки тому +1

    Wait… so is a geis the same as a geass, or do they have some kind of different I’m not seeing? Cause they sound similar.

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  3 роки тому

      Code Geass was based off this idea, but it's not the exact same thing.

    • @10-tailedrushmode8
      @10-tailedrushmode8 3 роки тому

      @@otakudaikun oh I see, maybe one day you could explain the difference between the two, maybe even make a video about it because I do love these kinds of videos.

  • @meinsternes4148
    @meinsternes4148 3 роки тому +1

    Next lesson could be the study of witchcraft professor..

  • @Indians-dl3to
    @Indians-dl3to 3 роки тому +1

    Hi there, have you seen anime Redo Of Healer ? I would love to see your take on controversy that is surrounding that anime.

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  3 роки тому

      I've talked about it in one of my Dai time videos.

    • @Indians-dl3to
      @Indians-dl3to 3 роки тому

      @@otakudaikun Do you have the link of it ?

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  3 роки тому

      @@Indians-dl3to ua-cam.com/video/Hw45VvEgQKY/v-deo.html

  • @strivingstruggle3797
    @strivingstruggle3797 3 роки тому +1

    so are these the same type of things used in code geass?

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  3 роки тому +2

      Code Geass was likely based around this concept.

  • @ivanbluecool
    @ivanbluecool 3 роки тому +9

    Honestly while what Kerry did was brutal but better than letting saber be stupid with her honor. The only one I felt bad for is kayneth I felt less bad for dirimud every time I saw zero as he is a worse lancleot to a less treated well Irish Arthur and him and saber were so self absorb with honor as he cried crying like a child. The curse is fake btw nobody cares for it as angra is the only one to fear in the grail.
    Kayneth shows he cared more about Sola ui than she did of him even before the mark with dirimud came up and El mellioi series is great in fleshing out his story as a family that was close to falling into ruin because the crest was destroyed
    Also take note that the magus association loves the grail war as it kills off heads of the houses and without succesors they just take the money and land like kirie did to Rin and what almost happened to rines if not for waver.

    • @majutsushisliceoflife
      @majutsushisliceoflife 3 роки тому +1

      This is why if I was a graduate of the Clock Tower, I sure as hell wouldn't join the Mage's Association.

    • @ivanbluecool
      @ivanbluecool 3 роки тому +4

      @@majutsushisliceoflife it's the same thing. They work hand and hand and even with the church as well as hire mercenaries like Natalia and even Kerry at times as they have no reason to care if if doesn't benefit them.
      Plus this is the reason Rin and Shirou don't truly join as the sealing spell that is given to you makes your life horrible as you may be able to research with all thier resources but you are marked for death the moment you go against them and they will find you. Shirou would have had his reality marble locked away if he joined up as clock tower is hypocritical on trying to reach the root yet don't want to change thier ways.
      Smartest thing to do is like Shirou and Rin just take the e year coarse and then leave. They don't care if you leave if you don't truly join up as Shirou has shown in ubw.
      Even in HF where Rin has to clean up sakuras many many many many messes she still had to be judged for using the sword which broke the rules yet still was allowed to join as we see older Rin Tohsaka post HF.
      Long story short. Be like kerty and stay away from the magus. Tokioimi is considered smarter than most of them as he sends sakura away all the time in every universe and keeps one heir as the edefelt shown why it's bad to have to have two.

    • @majutsushisliceoflife
      @majutsushisliceoflife 3 роки тому +1

      @@ivanbluecool Pssst! Just between you and me... With 2020 being a dumpster fire, I in real life started studying some magick.Maybe it's all bullshit, but I figure it couldn't hurt.

    • @ivanbluecool
      @ivanbluecool 3 роки тому +3

      @@majutsushisliceoflife it's very expressive and dangerous in general to both the body and wallet.
      But if I had the same option I would just stick to studying with Rin like Shirou does in a lot of the post story. If I had to go to clocktower just stick to waver who has a heart and his students raise up fast.

  • @elgatto3133
    @elgatto3133 3 роки тому +2

    Honestly, it didn't really make sense that kayneth had to die aside from setting up waver's story. It was a senseless and meaningless act of brutality, an act that would never save anyone.

    • @ivanbluecool
      @ivanbluecool 3 роки тому +3

      He was a mage. Magus don't help people and especially the clocktower. If you knew half the stuff they did you would burn clocktower to the ground.
      Here is an example of this. They know that the grail war is a thing and frankly they love it as it kills many high level magus and makes it easy to steal thier land and power and magic like kirie taking over the tohsaka house. El mellioi losing power before waver came in to settle the debt and einzberg having no living members as all of them are dolls while matou slowly fell off each war compared to thier Original power before making the war.
      Also fsn litteraly explains and shows why leaving a master alive is dangerous. Illya could have gotten another Servant if she wanted one. Ubw Rin gets saber and Medea takes emiya and saber being a master sevant and HF litteraly everything with sakura voring and taking servants.

    • @elgatto3133
      @elgatto3133 3 роки тому

      @@ivanbluecool Kayneth had no command seals though, he forfeited

    • @kelvinwebley6971
      @kelvinwebley6971 3 роки тому +1

      Because its best to kill masters in the war as the grail could deem them worthy again
      Eg kirei

    • @ivanbluecool
      @ivanbluecool 3 роки тому +5

      @@elgatto3133 so did Shirou. So did Rin. So did kirie. So did shinji like 3 times.
      That's like saying something extremely dumb as if that was the case kirie would have left after asako died and half the stuff he did without command seals wouldn't have happened. Masters can and have been shown to get thier command seals back when a new servant is available for the contract to be established and that's why a lot of problems happen if a master is left alive and saber even goes down this path in fsn wanting to kill masters if not reasoned with.
      Same as to why saber even survived zero after lancleot. Kariya died which was the only reason she beat him as he stopped getting Mana. If he didn't die she would have as he is a better KNIGHT than her in every single way possible even mad.
      It's the smartest move to remove the master and many examples of the master dying prove this in zero

  • @okita_souji_alter
    @okita_souji_alter 3 роки тому +3

    Didnt rin place a geis on shirou in one of the bad ends for heavens feel?

    • @majutsushisliceoflife
      @majutsushisliceoflife 3 роки тому

      She did.

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  3 роки тому +3

      Yes, she made him vow not to disobey her, and if you agree, you're unable to save Sakura.

    • @starwhale3070
      @starwhale3070 2 роки тому

      @@otakudaikun red flag shirou, that isnt a healthy relationship

  • @Shikharys
    @Shikharys 3 роки тому +3

    You do realize that revealing the lore of magecraft to humani is in violation of the Sacred Nations Treaty of Dani Tali’s?

    • @nepspartan-7597
      @nepspartan-7597 3 роки тому +1

      Unless that's the plan...with how magecraft works, the more people who know about it and how it works, the less mysticism there is, reducing it's effectiveness until it eventually disappears (depriving mages potentially hunting him down of what makes them so dangerous)

    • @Shikharys
      @Shikharys 3 роки тому

      The Magi are and have been always the middleman between men and the gods. We are in effect a different strain of human in that we are born with unique talents and gifts that express themselves in ways that science still can’t explain. The ancient past of this world, known then as Kandra, was an age of advancement and enlightenment lost to us due to a dark betrayal against both Danu Talis and Khumari Kandam, known to us today as Atlantis and Lemuria respectively. Nothing is new under the sun, we’ve been at the level of development we are now before, most people just forget but the collective unconscious memory remembers and is expressed by Magi through their gifts. The Magi are the keepers of the lost lore and the custodians of infinite futures of men

  • @DanteCrowlley
    @DanteCrowlley 3 роки тому +1

    *No u*

  • @ibukunanjorin9054
    @ibukunanjorin9054 3 роки тому +4

    Wtf was wrong with Cu Culain and making stupid Geis.

  • @VacadoRay
    @VacadoRay 3 роки тому

    Um sensei I hav a question

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  3 роки тому

      Yes?

    • @VacadoRay
      @VacadoRay 3 роки тому

      @@otakudaikun is there anyway I can use a geis scroll on u too give me straight A's i need to pass this class

  • @VacadoRay
    @VacadoRay 3 роки тому +1

    U mean geass

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  3 роки тому

      No, that is a term from an anime lol

    • @VacadoRay
      @VacadoRay 3 роки тому

      @@otakudaikun whoops wrong class then thought miss C2 was teaching I'll just collect my things and go.

  • @twiinArmageddons
    @twiinArmageddons Рік тому

    El chiste se hace solo

  • @joshjohnson6748
    @joshjohnson6748 3 роки тому +1

    Do you think My hero academia sexualization is bad?