[PSO2:NGS] New M.A.R.S Action System!
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0:31 Sources
1:17 Rare Drop Rate Response
3:26 New Action M.A.R.S.
7:18 Line Strike
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Give M.A.R.S. a jetpack and send it to space! I want to feel like im riding AIS Vega again.
MARS VEGA
The A.I.S. lovers (And/or Dark Blast users) ARE WINNING! July 31st needs to come quicker
MARS sounds interesting, but as a Tech main, I'm not going to be terribly thrilled to have yet another thing competing for bar space.
I wish there will be more surprises than just this Interview bits alone later in the headline, as we do need something to do when these M.A.R.S. Armanents releasing. Its pretty late July but i guess its alright as its the end of June already. Anyways can't wait to see what Stuff is in Eminence in Shadow collab will have lol
There needs to be a huge [CITATION NEEDED] next to Kimura and Hamazaki trying to gaslight everyone into thinking JP believes RDR is acceptable.
A lot of it is probably due to the fact that the JP side is more used to certain things with regards to RDR compared to the Global (i.e. The West) side due to the simple fact that PSO2's RDR is actually not overly bad when compared to many F2P, older MMOs, and especially Gatcha Games from the Far East. Or even Western MMOs, especially the older ones, when you look at it. I've played a good number of MMOs over the last twenty plus years, and it really isn't when compared to them all.
There is also the fact that the players on the JP side are often more willing to invest a much higher amount of their time than many on the Global side. We tend to not invest more time in the game than we feel we need to in order to do what is needed on a daily basis as we tend to look at what ever else we can be doing with our free time.
@@jgkitarel Well that explains why gachas are prevalent to an extent.
@@jgkitarel I agree, I player Japan and Korean Online MMORPGs, is just other games are just outright stupid RDR, outrightly, over 100, not even a descent good weapon or armor drop, and even materials for crafting is just as hard. PSO2 is actually more lenient, very lenient actually compared to Aion, Cabal, and even Elsword. beens sticking to PSO2 since 2013, cuz i get at least a descent drop and not so abyssmal like other games. GENSHIT is actually worst for its rate% fucking deleted the game.
Yes.. because you have access to more data on their own game than they do…….. 🤦🏾♂️ Like can you bffr.
@@jgkitarel The main issue is not the drop rate but the avaliability people to team with for grinding, which VASTLY increases the amount of items you get in a short period of time, thus effectively increasing your chances of getting the good stuff.
NA Server is dead, so its a problem now.
OMG yes!!, Dark Blast was my favorite power from base.
beast mode . and
Paradi Cataract SUV was the best
Thank you
Noice kero bro. Thanks for sharing and great explanation for it. I can't wait to test out this M.A.R.S Action System when it was out, I hope it will be something like AIS that my fam brought me to base and do Yamato battleship UQ. Feel so great to FLYYY. Yus!
Now imma wait til' we get a battlezone that only uses M.A.R.S.
How it feels to Dark Blast... When I can't level my current Class against higher level enemies. I pop DB.
Yeah, something like armada warzone in base PSO2 that we have to stay in AIS Vega all the fight :D
Like the fight with Omega Apprentice
Players in the west aren't more impatient, well I guess some are, but more importantly, we simply are used to games not being tedious grindfests, something asian games can learn from.
I haven't had too much issue with drop rates though I think the drop rates are mostly fine as is- ASSUMING you have a group of real players to grind with, because that makes the amount of items you get be multiplied by like 100 over solo grinding, and that means more drops in general.
Western server is dead, so good luck grinding with friends.
good speak keroppi i like it😁
Finally! a METEOR for our characters 🔥🔥🔥
gundam seed/destiny opening songs intensifies
Hopefully youll be able to change the color format like in base pso2 with db
l hope they increase that drop rate you know how many hours I actually put into running to get a Wing weapon and haven't even got it yet 5000 runs not one drop😰 thank you for taking the time to share this
M.A.R.S. Seems cool, but I was hoping it would be separate, because I was really looking forward to turning into a giant monster instead of them just combining AIS and Dark Blast.
Hol up, this MARS system isnt a dark blast, its a SUV system!
Also, I wonder how lore wise Line Strike is introduced (at least via Central!) I can't help but feel like the devs dabbled in Gwent.
It’s both.
if the combat system is better, i wouldnt mind grinding longer. grinding isnt fun in NGS at it current state imo
cool
We have archwing now lmao
Let's go triple triad!!
MARS looks like a [dark] blast too.
NO. NO triple triad. Cheatingway is now the perfect mascot of that game.
BIG DAMAGE
just make the rdr player specific. say in a specific zone/quest taht has a certain gear drop have 50 hours = 5%, 100 hours = 10% etc and make the second rarest items someyhing good so more people will be willing to farm. at the moment its just wingard which is 0.005% rdr and a bunch of obselete caps and mats as a reward
Doesn’t feel too rewarding atm now.
I watched the whole video. I am super excited for the Mars action system - absolutely. That sounds insane lol. I have a question, does anyone know if the cards will be sellable for meseta? Like can I "check item market prices", the card?
Personal Shops already have search categories for the card game, so I imagine some will be.
The devs said in the interview that players will not be able to sell them, but I'm not exactly certain how it will be though since the person above me claims there is a category for them already in the Shop.
@@Gillian_FFXIV Maybe in the future they'll add stuff later on that can be sold, but under consumables there are 3 sub categories ("Card", "Card Sleeve", and "Play Mat"). That or maybe they added this and changed their minds since its not actually out yet.
@@KitKater Oh okay, I had no idea. Thanks for the clarification!
So long as there’s enough variety to this system that all 10 classes won’t feel the exact same upon using it, I’m in.
I want my Hunter Class to suddenly whip out a giant Sword like weapon and bifurcate anything in my way.
Now if we can get news in Hunter class tweaking, that would be great. Some moves really need speed/damage buffs (Wire Lance Full charge Grab move).
Sword needs Speed Charging. That's the only thing I would add if I was conservative about buffs.
Same for Wire charged PA.
Spear just needs more interesting PAs. Since the combos that feel like it should juggle enemies, do not.
Im sure SEGA is working on hunter after that nerf. My guess would be less than six months
Bow braver needs more of a rework /tweak
It won’t work dat way. It’s a separate system, so it won’t be dependent on what class you are, more so than it’ll open up options for what you can already do wit’ your class, dependin’ on what you choose for your M.A.R.S.
@@adamdevereaux2713
I wonder how upgrading MARS will be. Especially when Respecting Points is conformed to be like our Classes.
Cacoon/Tower based or all from MARS Quests?
Hmm. The info about the M.A.R.S. System having some customization is good and increases my interest in it to above zero, but I'm still concerned that it will further dilute class identity, which I personally think NGS already has an issue with. High damage moments for your class such as Braver Combat, Fighters' Overload, the perfect Hunter Avenger Arts opportunity, etc. will lose most of their value if the M.A.R.S. system outDPSes those.
Been nolifing the game for a good time now I'm ready let's go.
Very very curious question I need help with anywhere. I can get free emote or maybe once I can purchase because I have not found no free ones that I can have cool new emotes.on pso2 new genesis
So serious question this game is really cool but I don't see anyone playing, is it because I'm only level 9 in a starter area?
If you're in a "for beginners" block due to your low level, there won't be many people there. You can switch over to a regular block at a Ryuker device, or you can just wait until around level 20 (if I recall correctly) when it'll start putting you in the regular blocks.
@@SapphicShiro Oh thanks a lot.
what ship are you on? I'd be happy to play with you on ship 3, I could use a buddy for leveling my alternate classes lol.
Where does kimura get his info, in terms of jp vs west?
I think it comes down to work culture, Japan is very accepting to long hours with minimal complaints, while in the west we know when bs is bs lol
It seem like both JP Staff and Global Staff communicate with each other in private calls or meetings, they seem to collect enough data to figure out what is happening between both versions. There is also the Community Managers that log in to the servers and see what is happening.
@@VixyNyan their data seems to be whack if they get data from discord mods
@@SpudCommando well, since general ph33dback also comes from Discord, what can we say really?
*shrug* ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@ShellBulletNinja it's a downside of an admirable cultural trait, they are too polite to call out the bs.
in MERICA (F YEAAAH) we don't really do polite, so we call out bs all the time!
So they're bringing back dark blast basically... Scion classes next? 🥺👉👈
I wouldn't really want Scion classes. What I would want, is Scion modifiers.
You pick a single class, and modify it a little bit. Maybe give it these Scion traits, in exchange for being unable to use a secondary class.
Me personally, I want to be able to use techs directly from a gunblade without needing a talis. Even at the cost of losing all the force skills.
Scion classes were a huge mistake lol. NO. NEVER.
More classes yes, scion classes, I feel sorry for the dope who can't see why it was a terrible idea to begin with.
@@zeehero7280 I don't know what new classes would even be like. What classes would you add to the game?
I wonder how long sega gonna end up forgetting about this and it ends up becoming another abandon feature in the game
on - off switch: too bad an infused ability melded into your body didnt have such a thing, i can see more scaling up hp on bosses coz of dat lmao, can we het an exclusive hotkey for activating mars? palletes are already full and still need/want to add stuff on it :x other than dat hope it flies with about 1.5x the speed sonic hoops gib or about the speed dash jump green thingies do. dont care about cards and if its quest locked ima NEVER do it just like in genshit
i still wanna feed my mag with some unwanted items and see a difference photon blast from my mag haha
And I thought the M.A.R.S. action system is a rideable mecha
it is? sort of? looks similar but more like a hardsuit. I hope they add AIS too later.
@@zeehero7280 its just too small, I can only see the side weapons, I didn't see if they are wearing an exo suit
Im ok with grinding tbh but there needs to be more to grind im bored of doing the same 2 quest or make more quests cross ship so quests are more accessible
Thank god they finally commit to recycling and improving the good stuff from base pso2, trying so hard to be different in these past 3 years didn't get us nowhere xD
I'm very happy with how this card game was implemented
The concept of a card game inside a video game, I've always found stupid. I don't like them but that's just me.
Agreed
it was fine in the good old days of final fantasy 7-8-9 because it wasn't monetized. Here the whole and sole point is to monetize by cynically exploiting gambling addicts. Just shows what they are again, predators.
Perfect for me as YuGIiOh player not a stand alone game but NGS is putting a lot of things that a other games has
like CreativeSpace (minecraft), Line Strike (YuGiOh, Pokemon Card Game, Magic the gathering), Sonic Racing themes,
Salon (dress up game lmao!) , I wonder if they put AIS in the future for like (gundam) battle/content imagine a MMORPG game like this
Your opinion is valid, but more minigames is good for da game. Just ignore it and you’ll be fine.
And speaking of the difference between the JP version and the global version, don't they get events and stuff that we do not get? Is that fair? If I'm wrong on this, let me know. But I'm pretty sure they do. They get items that we don't. So I mean, I don't see the difference about that
Technically, they 'got' events we didn't; collabs that happened before Global was a thing. The only bonus things they got while Global was active that I'm aware of were from Japanese-specific name brands, like businesses over there. I think some sales/AC shop things differ between regions too, but I don't buy it, so I can't be sure, I just know some games have differences in regional shops to match the customer bases.
@@theoaremevano3227 LOL, thanks for the info; I do appreciate it. However, I still think the drop rate should be higher for us. As I mentioned before, we have jobs and can't dedicate as much time to the game. I'm not saying they aren't working hard, but anyone who spends that many hours playing a game doesn't have much of a life, LOL. Of course, I'm no slacker when it comes to my gaming time. My point is, if the JP version players want to spend hours farming for a weapon that requires multiples for a higher upgrade, more power to them. I believe the game should cater to its audience. If the American, or global, side wants a higher drop rate, I don't see why not. In my opinion, they just don't want to lose the revenue from people buying boost packs for RNG. But that's just my take. I could say more, but it would be a waste of breath since it won't change anything. Still, I thank you for the information; I truly appreciate it.
Personally, I hate the idea of the drop rate being boosted. They're supposed to be rare. That's why they're called "rare" drops. Hell, the original PSO didn't hand rare drops out like candy. Base game PSO2 felt too generous, but it made sense given how weak the regular classes felt.
I don't like the sound of the MARS system at all, it just feels like it will make 2 minutes where you can activate it much more important to play optimal compared to the rest of the fight, i would prefer if the importance of the fight is consistent. So if you make mistakes during those 2 minutes, you are in a bad spot even if you fought well during the rest of the fight.
Present!! 🐼🥰🐼🥰🐼
Thank you so much for the link kero^^, i wish theres a magic type for M.A.R.S. Action System 🤣🤣🤣
I sense waifu sleeves lol
I feel the AC Scratch cards will have a holographic or shiny affect when you use the card unlike the F2P way to earn cards which will have no unique affect and just look like a regular card.
I'd rather have more photon arts to choose from. In my opinion Sega os offering things i dont want, just build on the clases and create new and exciting content and new enemies.
exactly
Sorry for comment This late I'm most excitement for M.A.R.S But When Come Down With Card Games Mode to me I Think They Waste Their Time With the Card mode games. If I'm Being Forced To Do Card Mode Game I'm Just Going To Just Going To Completely Avoid It Waste Of Time For Me To Do Card Mode Games Because If You Ever Heard Of Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2. If You Did Then They Did The Same Thing Give Us Card Mode Game Mode I Get It They Gave us this Card Mode Games Mode Other Players Just Want To Kick Back And Relax From Taking A Break Killing Dolls left And Right Or Just Me Want More Action But I'm Know Card Mode Game Is Not For Me I Guess...
You'd be surprised the amount of people (including myself) who enjoy Creative Space, Card Games as well as Combat equally. The more stuff you can do in the game, the better. You don't have to be confined to one specific content all the time. If you need to wind down and relax, you can try out the other game modes.
@@VixyNyan the game modes is not for me but thx
So, they care more about the Japanese players opinion than the global ones, despite improving drop rates being a net benefit for everyone.
Not anything we did not know already, but once again it makes me worried how long global will survive, this is after watching them kill PSO, BB and PSU early, and then wait eight years to bring PSO2 to the rest of the world.
Are u slow ? It’s fair
If they announced that JP was getting increased drop rates, you would feel pretty pissed too right? Something to consider.
They have been steadily increasing drop rates and adding more periods where there are drop rate buffs, so I think it is at least trending in the right direction where they are testing out the waters before just unleashing a high amount of drop rate on everyone.
@@beardalaxy This is good. its more fun.
@@stinopharan5528 The good news is that a Wingard weapon, while exceptionally rare, is not required for anything. I had a friend who doesn't play much NGS just beat Solus II with an LC augmented kit, an Eredim Rifle, and +81 on his armor. You really do not need something like a Wingard, it just helps and it's cool to flex that you have it. As long as that's the way it stays, I'm totally fine with there being really rare items. That's how it's been in PSO forever.
S u V .2.0 I DONT LIKE the fact that every body can use suv or mars whatever its should be cast only like psu . their own thing and beast need to be back
I find it hard to believe global players play the game outside of standing around in Aelio and dressing up their waifu.
So naturally they need to be baby'd with drop rate because they can't put 2 minutes of their time to do anything that isn't spamming symbol arts or talking in area chat about personal things.
Just ‘cause you find it “hard to believe” doesn’t make it true. Many global players dedicate themselves to da game, which is why they’re so opinionated (and rightfully so) on various components.
Also, lobby chillin’ was ALWAYS a component of PSO games, even PSO and PSU. It don’t take away from da game, more so than it adds incentive
As the other user has stated, people chilling in lobbies has been a thing from even the classic games lol and this is coming from someone who was playing during the 01-02' eras of PSO. It's just people like to hang out and chill after a long day of grinding, or they socialize before heading out to do something. PSO has always been heavy on the social aspects from day one, tbh.
All right, I'll say this here. I don't agree with that. It's. not that we don't grind hard or any like that. It's just that it take you 6 weeks to a month to get one drop of a weapon is ridiculous. We have lives outside of video games too We can't afford to display all day. And even if we could, people farmed hundreds and hundreds of hours and still don't get the drop that they want. And then at the people that do get the drop and put it on the market, they raise the price is so high that you can't afford to get into yourself. And that's the problem. Either way, you are screwed and not able to get the item you need. And these, let's not forget, they want you to pay to get better drop rates. Of course, we get the free 100 percent drop rate now. but you cannot stack those. There are people running 6 650 drop rate and still not. getting the item they need or want. Does that sound like a fair system? In all these subjects of weapons. to get a better fixer on it, you need multiple copies of the same weapon. in the espatch you too far for that weapon like you have been just to get another Copy of that weapon. again. Does that sound like a fair system? And let's not forget the harsh timber scent. on your fixes. If you fell, you had to start all over yet again. That system shouldn't even be there to begin with. It should. always be 100% guaranteed. There's so many flaws in that logic. 0 it would be unfair. If you sit there and think about all the negatives of the system that we have now, does it really sound fair? There are people that fell at 80 to 90% on such things. Have proof of that happening with videos as well. Again, does that sound like a fair system to you? And let's not get started with the augmented success rate. and how many of those you need to? get to get 100% and sometimes even it fells.
If my comment can help SEGA i play global, and i have also been playing pso for over 20 years. I too think we should be grinding long hours for good content. I am going to be COMPLETELY HONEST. I saved like 60 mil to buy a Winguard for this event, bought it, and literally stopped playing the game for like a month. In pso base I was a ranger, just like in ngs, but dude, for anyone who plays, my best weapon was an ASTRAL RISER, pso was the funniest game lol, and i literally had a piece of crap weapon. HAVING THE BEST WEAPON DOES NOT MAKE PSO FUN. I have 8000 hours in ngs. I strongly believe SEGA should NOT cater to the American side, and please keep things rare. I would be head over heels having a number #2 weapon for 100,000,000, if the number #1 weapon was, say 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 (like three stacks for people who played PSU 999,999,999 x3)
Yeah western players piss me off. They literally all want to have all best in slot gear for free. I am worried though that sega think us complaining about content not having any good rewards means they should buff chase item drop rates as that would actually make the problem worse
@@15kalas15Most Western players don’t even have da right mentality for MMO games:
will the game survive if they listen to a small minority like you? casual players is where the money is. 1million casuals > 1000 cultists.
F Jp servers lol we are not sinking 1000 hours to grind a fucking Wingard 😂😂😂
It’s crazy, that’s it I’m just gonna become a free player, no more dumping my money into this. We spend and don’t get heard. Ppl over here have lives and money is tight. The drop rate and drops in certain quest should be better. Why do we have to spend 1000 hours when you’re just gonna turn around and give the base for free next month?!? Still no Wingards in sight smh
When your out of ideas you add a card game.
The problem with rdr is that most bosses rewards are poopy which makes content not rewarding to complete. When you ran urgent quest, upgrade solus and still have nothing to really show for it, you start to feel stupid for playing.
“Out of ideas” is wild. You people are insufferable. MMOs need more than just action to survive. THEY ARE A SOCIAL GAME. They explicitly stated why they added a card game versus another minigame (which we already got a few in NGS).
Also, erry PSO game before had minigames. Again, insufferable.
@@adamdevereaux2713 many mmos have added internal card games because they're out of ideas (for the moment) and they're easy to make. Card games are stupid, and if you want to go play magic or Yu-Gi-Oh more power to you. But nothing good comes from trying to stuff too many minigames into mmos, the population can't handle a the death of a thousand cuts.
Running out of ideas? You do realize that Line Strike was entirely added due to the dev team having additional spare time after completing projects, right? Nothing was sacrificed nor omitted, and this was done simply because the team truly wanted to add something else to the game on the side. This information can be found in full from the interview since Kero did not go through the whole thing.
@@Gillian_FFXIV spare time? Nothing was sacrificed? It's been three years and the story is still thread bare. Chapter 7 story is completed in an hour and Nameless city became useless in just a couple runs. I would say that the dev team could sure use some sacrificing when it comes to actually making NGS a real game beyond the next AC scratch and useless grind. Creative spaces were a nice flavor but visit any and they're all empty window dressing. The exploration zones are empty, the combat zones are mostly empty, the Nameless city is already becoming empty. Please don't sacrifice anything to try to turn around the population loss from ps02 base game.
this looks bad, warframe did an amazing game mode called railjack, and the only farm on that instance is moatly to enhance your raijack, after some time gets boring and no one have any reason to do railjack anymore, is a dead instance.
But… it won’t be anything like railjack, so I really don’t understand why you made dat reference.
@@adamdevereaux2713 for what i undertood, it will be a gamemode stick to a single place, so it is similar in consept to railjack
@@adamdevereaux2713dat? You mean, that?
I don’t care about the mars and card game stuff it’s just more useless content to me that i will never use and more useless space in the game taking up and years of development time wasted again for a small group of players to be happy instead of add real content and stuff that use normal players have asked for over 3 years and never got and i love dark blast from the base game that was fun and enjoyable and awesome to but everything they add that they say is like this or like that it’s not it’s always a watered down less fun version of everything they do it’s no different than a woke show and movie written take a old game or movie or show that people loved and say i can make it better because I’m woke and that’s all NGS as been for years just a woke ass game and just like the woke shows and movies out there it’s failing all the time so they just keep doubling down on there failures and still can’t understand why they are losing people or have lost everybody and money and not change the drop rate for global is only going to make things worse they will lose more players with that choice at this point just come out and say your going to close the global side of NGS down instead of continuing to punish us because JP is different than global just say it and just get over with stop delaying it the game been a failure since day one and they just don’t want to let it die and they don’t want to change ether the games been a ghost town for 3 weeks now it’s fixing to be 4 weeks starting this week rest people are tired of the bullshit the old team and director that made ep 4/ep5/ep6 and when hero class first came out that team did a better job with the base game than this team and director as done in 3 years and that’s the team this game needed from day one was the old base PSO2 team not this unfit team and director we have right now that can’t build or develop a game right hell they can’t even do the simple basic things that the game needs to run right that’s why the game always as so many bugs and crashes pretty much all the time I’m so tired of that crap to
For frick's sake, you need some commas, full stops and to fix the dang typos. This is SO hard to read, it made me out of breath just reading it in my head. This is stress inducing to read. ..But from what I can understand in here, I agree with you.
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the action system will kill everything, including ultra-hard content
They said 100x card's flat no exclusive p2w cards.🤔🤨🧐
I'm pretty sure it's gonna be story-locked just like DBs in base game means you NOT gonna get it at least until Ch.8.
UPD: "Available after Ch.1" - well, that's top tier of stupid. Think this over again, Sega.
@@FollowTheFaceless
No... I got all 4 DB forms from hard farming, the last expedition, and UQs. I never touched the story at all.
For NGS. MARS seems to be free for anyone, as long as they complete the MARS quests.
@@absolstoryoffiction6615 yeah I didn't do any story content in PSO2 until the very end of its life. then again, the story works quite a bit differently in NGS.
@@absolstoryoffiction6615 Nope. DBs was granted outside Story ONLY when you defeated a specific Omega version of Falz boss like Hyunal. EXP for them is another topic tho.