Thank you for this video! I’ll be doing my precat delete very soon and I think I will face the same battle as you did. Glad you made this video, it already helped me and gave me an idea of the tools I’ll need.
When I took out the material of the pre cats it lost some low down torque, wonder if your new one has better are air flow than a gutted original,. The gutted chambers are probably to large
Hi Andrew, nice video !!! on the bottom u used 2 new gastkets i supposed? do you also need paste or any sealant to prevent leakage or do 2 new gaskets on the bottom and 1 on the head be enought?
@@andrewsparey697 thanks bro...tomorrow i have new gaskets and want to mount the old pipes... yesterday i removed the internal honeycomb from the precat... so the pipes are a bit rusty. cleaned it thoroughly with a metal brush....because of the old pipes i am doubt some exhaust kit/glue... but you think its not required?
Thanks for this video Andrew and links. Im tempted to drop my MR2 to them but Im miles away. Did you find the fitting straight forward. Just watching your video now! Much appreciated - Jim
Wanted to ask you if you've had trouble with passing emissions on your MOT with this manifold? Want to put one on mine as well but I also want to be able to pass emissions. TIA and thanks for the great videos!
Nope. I think wrap is a scam. It has an application in keeping heat away from the air filter , but thats not a factor for my car. Wrap will also weaken the welds and make your manifold more brittle so as a default, i am not a fan
Salt and water equals rust, UK cars all go this way, It is a little better in Ireland as we have only start using salt. You got the same manifold as me, Mine is blowing when under heavy acceleration so I removed all the nuts again and it is sitting in my car waiting for a new gasket, I used the 2 toyota ring crush gaskets but the manifold does not have space for them as the contact area is flat so I am going to use the gasket that came with the manifold plus RTV to make the seal.
Hi Chris, did you replace the manifold and have you had any NCT issue with emissions? I removed my precats last September and my 2000 MR-S has now just failed emissions at high idle only. Am going to add dipetane and take it for a few long hard drives before the retest within next 3 weeks.
@@Jimdwyer1 I just sold the car yesterday however, the precats are not necessary to pass, use diptane and make sure the engine is nice and hot when you arrive at the center, if it still does not pass then something else is wrong with the car.
Hello mate - I’m looking at buying one of these cars which has also been left outside and unmoved for a while . I have a question . With your cat starting to break down was this causing any signs in the engine . Also when you first got it , was it smoking slightly
Looks like your new manifold will crack in a month or so. If you don't brace the lower end to the engine like the stock one, the flexing it goes through will crack the thin stainless steel fairly quickly. The header you bought doesn't look like it has any lower mount locations for those brackets.
MR2 Roadster Pre-cats - What you should know! - Toyota Owners Club www.toyotaownersclub.com/tutorials/article/69-mr2-roadster-pre-cats-what-you-should-know/
ive just replaced my full exhaust with a stainless steel racing exhaust all my rusted bolts i treated with wd40 and left it over night it would of made getting the bolts of way easier !!
The precats disintegrate because of oil seeping past the piston rings and contaminating the catalytic material. Yours has started. It will get worse. Keep a close eye on your oil levels. I'm yet to see a 1ZZ that hasn't suffered this issue.
@Johnny Cassell Hi, thanks for the information. Is there any maintenance jobs that can be done to resolve this or is it something that cannot be fixed ?
Is it only the pre Jan 2002 cars? I don't know too much about these spiders as more of a muscle car kinda guy but my girl wants one of these and it'd be her daily and I'd rather not have it be destroyed by cats
Yes . Mines a march 2001 so the cats and piston rings had problems. I think the piston rings were fixed in Dec 01 and cat design by Jan 02. 2003 is the best year as A) there is no chance of old engine and exhaust inventory being used and B) they improved the suspension by then and sit 1” lower
Yes. As stated vocally , your pre cats are slowly disintegrating and being sucked into the engine by the VVTI . There are plenty of videos of where that leads - the junk yard
@@andrewsparey697 i better find a shop that'll remove the ceramic for me. I'm not messing with the asbestos they've put on there. I contacted Toyota for a quote for a new manifold and exhaust system. I was quoted $6k just for parts. That's insane.
@@ninjashidan aftermarket manifolds cost about £100 . There are no particulates to inhale if you unbolt the OEM and simply throw it away. It is people who try to bash out the memrane with a hammer and fit the original, emptied manifold for £0 that are risking asbestosis
@@andrewsparey697 I'm trying to keep my car all original. I don't want the engine to be any louder either otherwise a nice after market exhaust system would have been a good solution.
Thank you for this video! I’ll be doing my precat delete very soon and I think I will face the same battle as you did. Glad you made this video, it already helped me and gave me an idea of the tools I’ll need.
I have to do this job 😪 hope it goes well. Got the stainless manifold. Thanks for the advice as always Andrew 🙏🏽
Great video. Although my MR2 already has the same manifold fitting, it was worth seeing the condition of the pre-cats keep up the good content
Good, in-depth video 👍 thank you
Great video mate!
Thanks for the helpful video, the link to roadstersport doesn't seem to work - any idea how else i can get hold of one of these manifolds?
Get on Facebook and find Lewis Winpenny , he runs the shop
mobile.facebook.com/profile.php?id=643598917
oh boy im enjoying this so mucho, is so similar to my Mr2 , and i feel like i can repeir it if something happends
I ordered the same manifold. Coming next week. I'm going to replace it with this one. kkk It's so similar that it's fun
여기서 만나다니..^^
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검사는 안되겠죠?ㅎㅎ
@@junetery1926 그대로 두발다 꼽을 수 있는데요?? 산소센서 안꼽우면 차 못타죠 ㅠㅠ
@@Who_will_be_SENDO
스카이라인탈때..스트레이트촉매 바꾸면서 센서는 그냥 캔슬해서 탑니다.^^;매니쪽1차는 없으면 안되는데..구멍을 막아놓은것같아서...혹시 다른 방법이 았는건가...물어봤습니다.^^
@@junetery1926 아 ㅎㅎㅎ스촉에 매니안달면 다른방법으로 잘 제어하는 방법이 있나보내요 ㅎㅎ
엠알은 산소센서없으면 바보되어서
저건 사진찍을때 막혀서 온그대로 찍은거구
설치후에 마개도 빼고 산소센서 달았습니다^^
When I took out the material of the pre cats it lost some low down torque, wonder if your new one has better are air flow than a gutted original,. The gutted chambers are probably to large
No loss of torque for me
Very thankful to you
Hi Andrew, nice video !!! on the bottom u used 2 new gastkets i supposed? do you also need paste or any sealant to prevent leakage or do 2 new gaskets on the bottom and 1 on the head be enought?
Two new gaskets, came with the new pipes, and no silicone 👍🏻
@@andrewsparey697 thanks bro...tomorrow i have new gaskets and want to mount the old pipes... yesterday i removed the internal honeycomb from the precat... so the pipes are a bit rusty. cleaned it
thoroughly with a metal brush....because of the old pipes i am doubt some exhaust kit/glue... but you think its not required?
Some people do but I used none and have not had any problems , so I would not use any if i did it again
@@andrewsparey697 job done took a while to get the gaskets.. but i also managed to mount correctly without paste !
Thanks for this video Andrew and links. Im tempted to drop my MR2 to them but Im miles away. Did you find the fitting straight forward. Just watching your video now! Much appreciated - Jim
Wanted to ask you if you've had trouble with passing emissions on your MOT with this manifold? Want to put one on mine as well but I also want to be able to pass emissions.
TIA and thanks for the great videos!
I passed emissions no problem. There is a 3rd cat converter in the downpipe so that was sufficient to pass
@@andrewsparey697 perfect I shall be getting one in that case.
Hi Andrew. Did you wrap the manifold after. Do you think it's needed?
Also, do you think heat would have helped with removing the manifold nuts?
Nope. I think wrap is a scam. It has an application in keeping heat away from the air filter , but thats not a factor for my car. Wrap will also weaken the welds and make your manifold more brittle so as a default, i am not a fan
I have a blow torch, the heat did nothing to move the nuts
Hi great video, did you use gun gum between the exhaust manifold?
No, only an exhaust manifold gasket. No liquid sealants as i find they perish
Thank you. :D gonna go put the manifold on now.
Salt and water equals rust, UK cars all go this way, It is a little better in Ireland as we have only start using salt. You got the same manifold as me, Mine is blowing when under heavy acceleration so I removed all the nuts again and it is sitting in my car waiting for a new gasket, I used the 2 toyota ring crush gaskets but the manifold does not have space for them as the contact area is flat so I am going to use the gasket that came with the manifold plus RTV to make the seal.
Hi Chris, did you replace the manifold and have you had any NCT issue with emissions? I removed my precats last September and my 2000 MR-S has now just failed emissions at high idle only. Am going to add dipetane and take it for a few long hard drives before the retest within next 3 weeks.
@@Jimdwyer1 I just sold the car yesterday however, the precats are not necessary to pass, use diptane and make sure the engine is nice and hot when you arrive at the center, if it still does not pass then something else is wrong with the car.
Good share my friend, thank you.
Hello mate - I’m looking at buying one of these cars which has also been left outside and unmoved for a while . I have a question . With your cat starting to break down was this causing any signs in the engine . Also when you first got it , was it smoking slightly
Yes, mine smokes. Drive at highway speed for an hour , stop, then start again and i get white smoke 💨
@@andrewsparey697 this one is on tick over - only a slight amount and not blue . Can’t drive it either as the brakes are ruined 😂
Looks like your new manifold will crack in a month or so. If you don't brace the lower end to the engine like the stock one, the flexing it goes through will crack the thin stainless steel fairly quickly. The header you bought doesn't look like it has any lower mount locations for those brackets.
And yet three years later its still fine
Not sure how you've been so lucky. You should still keep checking and listen for exhaust leaks.
I only take her on easy cruises , mainly on open roads at mild speed. if she went on a race track youd be proved right very quickly
I thought all mr2 spyder had the precat issue? Only 2001 and older?
2001 and before , they fixed it
Did you have to use a o2 sensor bung plung? If so what size?
No, the two factory o2 sensors wind straight in as a straight swap
Where did you get your manifold?
Google “toyosports” , thats the brand
How can anything in the exhaust get into the engine??
MR2 Roadster Pre-cats - What you should know! - Toyota Owners Club www.toyotaownersclub.com/tutorials/article/69-mr2-roadster-pre-cats-what-you-should-know/
ive just replaced my full exhaust with a stainless steel racing exhaust all my rusted bolts i treated with wd40 and left it over night it would of made getting the bolts of way easier !!
I used plus gas. Unfortunately didn’t do much, nuts were too rusty to help
The precats disintegrate because of oil seeping past the piston rings and contaminating the catalytic material. Yours has started. It will get worse. Keep a close eye on your oil levels. I'm yet to see a 1ZZ that hasn't suffered this issue.
@Johnny Cassell Hi, thanks for the information. Is there any maintenance jobs that can be done to resolve this or is it something that cannot be fixed ?
@@Kapil-Patel Unfortunatley the piston rings need to be replaced, and probably the bores honed
can u help find this ? the links dont work brother !!
Links are long gone. I can only recommend ebay where these are plentiful
Is it only the pre Jan 2002 cars? I don't know too much about these spiders as more of a muscle car kinda guy but my girl wants one of these and it'd be her daily and I'd rather not have it be destroyed by cats
Yes . Mines a march 2001 so the cats and piston rings had problems. I think the piston rings were fixed in Dec 01 and cat design by Jan 02.
2003 is the best year as A) there is no chance of old engine and exhaust inventory being used and B) they improved the suspension by then and sit 1” lower
@@andrewsparey697 hell yeah thank you 😂 looking at an 05 anyway, super appreciated man
If my mr2 is younger than January 2002 do I need to worry about this?
Yes. As stated vocally , your pre cats are slowly disintegrating and being sucked into the engine by the VVTI . There are plenty of videos of where that leads - the junk yard
@@andrewsparey697 i better find a shop that'll remove the ceramic for me. I'm not messing with the asbestos they've put on there.
I contacted Toyota for a quote for a new manifold and exhaust system. I was quoted $6k just for parts. That's insane.
@@ninjashidan aftermarket manifolds cost about £100 . There are no particulates to inhale if you unbolt the OEM and simply throw it away. It is people who try to bash out the memrane with a hammer and fit the original, emptied manifold for £0 that are risking asbestosis
@@andrewsparey697 I'm trying to keep my car all original. I don't want the engine to be any louder either otherwise a nice after market exhaust system would have been a good solution.
@@ninjashidan get a 2003 manifold from a wrecker like Dick Sloan (he is on Facebook). 2003 is the best year for the Mr2 mk3
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whats the problem with these cats ??
They disintegrate and get ingested by the engine. Seriously bad news.
@@andrewsparey697 Wow incredibile mistake by tojoda (and only ugly cars from new century..) Thank You mate 👍