@@CristinaSimonsen Yes but he was talking about the fuel temperature which was just a little below zero and nowhere near -42c. The -67c was the outside temperature. 🙂
Sad fact about this accident, Cpt. Rasmunsen was so traumatised by it that he was diagnosed with PTSD and ended his pilot career a few months later. In an interview for the ACI series he mentioned that he lost trust on the airplane and he felt betrayed.
Me too. But yet, careers & lives were destroyed by the news media after the disaster. Stefan G. Rasmussen suffered PTSD from the incident due to survivor's guilt, and the media portrayed him (whether intentional or not) indirectly as one of the primary causes of the crash purely because they didn't fully realize that the airline had not given all their employees the necessary pilot training/emergency procedures regarding the engines. Public perception somewhat condemned the Captain until two years later, when officials acquitted them and deemed him a hero, given how no one died from the crash. However, Stafen never flew again due to the level of scrutiny by many people during the initial investigations, alongside the trauma of the crash in which he lost his pilot's license, even though they never fought back to retain it because of the guilt they experienced that nearly cost the lives of his crew & passengers. Imagine the levels of hate on social media had this happened in the 2000s.
@cherryblossom2972 I was checking to see if anyone seen that this was uploaded yesterday, it had a different thumbnail, I was gonna watch it later, then it was gone. I was reading the comments to find out why it was takin down.
Petter from Mentour Pilot, who is from Sweden, said the plane impact was so relatively quiet, people in the surrounding houses had no idea... and that passengers came out of the forest and began knocking on doors for help
Mhm. I remember the news the morning this happened. That was what was said on the news as well. People had to walk from the accident site to the houses nearby in order to get to a phone and call for help (not everything was better in the times before the cell phone). The help was quick to arrive though. As were the news reporters. As people in the houses were made aware of what had happened they showed up with blankets (this was in the Swedish winter after all) and hot drink (like coffee). Just mentioning it as well, what the passengers remember the most wasn't the impact, but the silence in the whole aircraft from the moment the engines went out.
This one is more impressive than Sully. Crash landing into a forest... and having only 8 injuries... and literally NO fatalities? One of the most, if not the most incredible feat of piloting of all time.
I am truly amazed at how some pilots are able to make the very best of a worst case scenario and save themselves and their passengers from utter disaster while other pilots can turn a minor malfunction into an unmitigated calamity. Absolute respect for this crew for achieving the impossible. A crash into terrain with zero loss of life. A miracle!
Nice point. In my experience, the worse a situation gets, the better the pilots can handle it, because their options go down. If you have a minor malfunction then you have many choices available to you and have to consider safety and company priories, but if you have dual engine failure or cargo fire for example, you only have one thing to do and you learned those skills early in your career before you even did your first solo.
The passenger/ pilot was a True Hero as Well. Not only did he bring the 2 pilots an extra set of eyes and hands he brought his knowledge and calm ways. The Captain was traumatized and its very well understandable. Not only his crews lives were in immediate harms way so were the 120 plus passengers. The Captain knew it was his responsibility to save everyone possible. He did better than that. Entire plane's people were able to see their loved ones... Excellent video Green Dot.... I think I'm caught up on every video now!!! Happy Subscriber 😊
Captain Rasmussen was an ex fighter pilot. Yes they got help from a passenger/Captain but it was Rasmussen that under extreme stress managed to get the plane down on that field saving everyone onboard. He got one of Denmarks highest decorations from the Queen. After the accident he lost confidence in his abilities and never flew again. Captain Rasmussen we salute you!!!
Definitely salute Cpt. Rasmussen! He saved all his passengers. He couldn't possibly know about the thrust levers being increased automatically. or the fact that the deicing crew were not up to the job. Such a shame he never flew again.
That's the danish narrative. According to Swedish cpt Per Holmberg, cpt Rasmussen was overwhelmed and in a state of apathy when he entered the cockpit.
I worked with Sweden's leading disaster psychologist, who, on this occasion, worked with the pilots and crew. The Swedish captain, Holmberg, who was a passenger and former Viggen Pilot, took active command when he saw for himself how badly things were going in the cockpit as the cockpit-door was open, and when the Captain, Rasmussen, started searching checklists, (his primary task as capten is flying) even though the plane had only seconds left in the air, with no traction from the engines. Their were no time to go through a check-list. He made Captain Rasmussen to instead focus on gliding with a straight course, right angle / speed towards an open surface, as the slightest wrong rudder movement could cause the plane to lose airworthiness and crash with the result that everyone had died. Rasmussen received a defined degree of shock, which was also evident during the TV interview, and the fact that he stopped flying as a result. One can speculate on what would have happened if the Swedish captain had not been able to get into the cockpit, but the fact is that together, they saved lives. It was a team effort, but those who were involved still know that the Swedish captain's effort was decisive when you looked at the passage of time in the cockpit based on interviews and the black box. However, one should not look for scapegoats on an occasion when everyone survives.
@@JK-gw1yf Yeah, this is pretty evident when I read the cvr transcript. Holmberg had to remind him to fly the airplane more times than should have been necessary. Holmberg also had knowledge about the ATR system from a visit to the US.
I remember seeing this on the Flight Channel where usually at the end, accompanied by sad music, a message displays “noone survived”…but instead this time it said “everyone survived” which was like OMFG YES!! 💪
Kudos to all three pilots for their cooperation in this difficult situation. Seems like this was the absolute best possible result, given the pressure of the situation and the lack of information and training, they had received.
Hey green dot aviation. The new way to introduce the captain and F.0 is really cool. From a viewer prospective it gives us the actual info instead of just words.
Sadly, Captain Stefan Rasmussen would never take to the skies again as the accident left him so traumatized and made him lose faith in the airplanes he was flying (due to the ATR system that he wasn't informed about)
honestly, considering how much successful piloting is based on knowledge of your aircraft and training, the fact that a key part of the accident was entirely out of his control (lack of training, lack of knowledge + control of an aspect of the plane) would shake me to my core. i'd dip out after that near-death experience too.
That sounds very possible. I had several falls off my motorbike over the years, but got on it again every time until one time when the motorbike flipped onto its side when approaching a roundabout at about 15 mph. I had not contacted or come near to contacting any vehicle or object. There was no gravel on the road and no ice (the temperature was 9°C). I gently tapped the brake lever and instantly the bike fell on its side. From then on I was reduced to a jelly whenever I had to turn even a gentle corner because I felt unable to predict how the bike would behave. If it could fall over in ideal conditions travelling in a straight line at slow speed, I could no longer have any confidence in what it might do next. My best theory to explain it was that I might have picked up some oil on the tyre a mile earlier which threw me the first time I used the brake. In the end I had to sell the bike.
@@stephenfennell Oil, 1 mile before? Were you riding in Kuait? I rode and raced off-road bikes for over 20 years, and managed 1 significant bike shop in that time. Was also Retail Finance Manager at a much larger shop. I rode company used bikes to and from work many times, including 1100 cc sport bikes. (No point in buying when you can borrow.) No, I never won anything important. But, I avoided several accidents on the street. I have gone down hard many times without serious injury. (Broken collar bones are not a serious injury😅.) I have gone over the handlebars too suddenly and quickly to let go, and broken my thumb because of my own grip strength. You never fell enough to learn how to do it.
@@stephenfennell What a mystery. This certainly acted like a slip on something, but exactly what you had no idea. There's something called highsiding that I was warned about in MSF training where a wheel first slides, the bike tilts, then the wheel grips again throwing the bike on its side. The main caution there however wasn't against a freak event like yours, but against braking to the skidding point then releasing the brake before the bike comes to rest. I did that once when I came close to T-boning a truck that pulled out of a parking lot, fortunately not incurring the dreaded high-side when I let off the brakes when the truck darted out of my way and I reacted to the opportunity to regain control as though I had been driving a car (which of course cannot high-side). I should have remembered to let the bike skid to a halt, but on the other hand what was behind me might have run me over so maybe it was for the best. This sounds like a small, virtually invisible slippery spot on the road to me, the perfect proverbial banana peel. You might have thought the bike was straight and level, but if the road had any significant "crown" that would be enough to change the attitude of the bike once the tire began to slip.
@@stephenfennell I fell on my 27 inch road bicycle. I was going maybe 3 mph and tried to make a sharp cut on wet pavement. It hurt. I got up slowly and all was good after a few days.
My favorite thing about flying the MD-80 was knowing that no matter what went sideways, the flight controls were good ole cables and pulleys and would work just fine no matter the electrical abnormality.
As a software developer working with vehicles/control-related things (leaving out details to keep confidentiality), the potential for errors terrifies me.
@@theRPGmaster same honestly. I don't work in critical infra but the kind of code that gets greenlit all the time around here... it scares me to think what the rest of the industry is doing.
Of all the aviation channels, yours is my favorite. Everything is explained in a way that a dummy like me can understand and the quality of your voice is calming.
This crash is one of the rare examples where not a single life is lost. I still remember hearing about it at work, and the positive outcome just felt like a true miracle. If I remember correctly, the worst injury was one passsenger with some neurological damage caused by fractured discs. Obviously very tragic for that person, but things could have ended up so much worse with countless lives lost. Thankfully that was avoided.
I work at Arlanda this night and connected a diesel cabin heater to 751, i remember it was a brand new plane and everything was clean, i take a loop around and look at the plane so i can see if the heater working properly,...they tok 751 to hangar number 4 at Arlanda so i have a close look at her again and this time she don´t look so new anymore,... her name was Dana Viking. The year after when we finish de-icing a aircraft they go upp on the wing and feel with hands if it was ice left.
This is I think the main reason why all newer planes have the engines under the wings and not behind them like with the MD80. In this design ice releasing from the wings will not be ingested by the engines but released behind them instead.
Great video, my heart sank when they said hit trees, yet all walked away. That must have been one hell of a sturdy airframe with a pinch of luck involved. Poor de-icing, poor training= recipe for disaster
This makes me so happy that everybody survived. Excellent work by the pilots, even though they were under trained. They saved everybody’s life that day.
I have never received any formal avaiation-related training and mostly relate to the topic through my engineering degree, but you make these case studies super easy and engaging to follow, and I'm thankful to be able to have access to such high quality media pretty much whenever and wherever
Stefan G. Rasmussen shared a similar fate. The public was told by news media that he was the primary cause of the accident, and thus, he suffered a combination of survivor's guilt, PTSD, and public scrutiny to the point where he never wanted to fly again. Social media today can easily screw an innocent person's life if news outlets decide not to use facts but instead use their emotions. 2 years later, officials acquitted him and the crew for the incident because the SAS provided poor training and the ice on the wings, but the damage was already done. Most who would hear this story at first believe that in 1993, they considered him a villain instead of a hero who still saved the passengers after a crash event.
i know these videos must be a ton of work, but a second channel where you cover all types of disasters would be incredible. You do such a great job with aviation disasters, I'd love to see you cover all types of incidents. ]
Dunno why i'm getting teary eyed i'm happy everyone survived. the capt was very lucky that he had some sort of a guardian angel in the form of the relief pilot! without him i don't think crew would have been able to focus on other factors, due to their heavy work load.
This accident had a lasting effect on SAS and the safety measures implemented as result of it are still adhered to on the CRJ planes they use nowadays. The clear ice check is always completed prior to the plane leaving the gate and sometimes is also requested after de-icing has been performed. As someone that does de-icing in Finland, I can say that it can be very hard to actually see clear ice from the cabin of a de-icing vehicle. Usually the only time you see it is when the sheets of ice come off of the wing with the de-icing fluid. However, you just have to trust the process and do your best to concentrate on those areas where it occurs the most. Freezing rain conditions are probably the worst though as it can cover pretty much every surface of the plane, especially underneath the wings.
I well remember, in 1981, an early morning flight from Manchester to Glasgow. At 0700 hrs on a cold and frosty morning, we boarded the British Airways BAC 1/11 aircraft. Everything was normal and we lined up on the runway, the Captain revved up the two engines and accelerated along the runway. I was a frequent flyer so I could judge just about V1. Just as we almost reached VI the captain slammed all the brakes on and came to a controlled halt on the runway. He then came over the intercom and said, and I quote, 'Sorry, Ladies & Gentlemen but the right-hand engine had a little bit of early morning dew in it. We will return and retry. Everything seemed normal and we returned to the end of the runway and started our second run. We flew effortlessly into the bright crisp, blue, morning sky and enjoyed a delightful flight to Glasgow passing over the unbelievably beautiful scenery of the Lake District.
Weird, considering this would more often than not put the brakes in a temperature state that requires cooling before making another takeoff attempt. Maybe back then it wasn't considered such a big deal but nowadays you'd have a whole bunch of checklists to go through after rejecting a takeoff so close to V1.
@@chinamotoadventures2374 Maybe the protocols were a whole lot different then. I do remember there was certainly no waiting, we just taxied around and had a second run. There again procedures have changed in so many areas in over forty years, not always for the better.
Man, everytime I think your videos cant get any better, you put in even more visual and sound details to really immerse you. Keep up the great work, love your video’s!
Another excellent video. My father was a captain for United airlines and I remember him telling me about this incident when I asked him about ice and the risks there in.
Thank you for maintaining the suspense throughout the video by not revealing the fate/outcome of the flight early on in the video. I hate it when aviation UA-camrs reveal early on whether the plane crashed or survived, completely kills the fun of watching their videos. Good on you for not doing that, thank you.
I just want to say that I was born and raised in jersey, and as a child, I watched the two planes hit the Twin Towers. Since then, at the age of 10, I've had huge paranoia of flying in planes and have never. I'm 32 now, and for the past 2 weeks, I've been bench watching all of your videos. These videos have been extremely life changing for me. Hence, yes, there's a bunch of videos where planes do crash, and that raises my fear. On the other hand, stories like this just give me so much hope and understanding how well the captain and crew are in at times of despair. Making me understand more and more and actually helping me get over this fear. Thank you so much for making these videos! They are so incredible, detailed minute by minute, how things happen. I will ask if you could make a Spotify account. I do work outside and would love to just put these on in the background and just enjoy your true stories!
my dad was working in mærsk air at the time and it was quite the interesting story - got to meet stefan once very briefly while i was in mærsk air as a school student practice not very long after that while visiting a sas facility getting some parts to bring back to mærsk as they also used the md80 and you could tell he was very stressed about the situation even after he got cleared of any suspicions(?)
ooooo your animation has gotten so good! I see that crisp! I've been watching a lot of videos from the past on your channel so I see the growth my friend! Keep it up
I’ve been flying since 1987 and have well over 3,000 hours in the air as PIC and this is the thing that haunts us on every takeoff because the dangers in flight generally are on takeoff and landing, which is why we say that flying is 99% boredom and one percent abject terror it appears the captain did an incredibly good job setting that crate down and making sure that everybody passenger and crew made it out alive which according to my CFI is a successful landing
Although I'm not a pilot, nor do I aspire to be one, I persistently wait for new video uploads since I've watched all the clips on the channel. I watch other channels with much more video content than GDA, but I keep craving more uploads from them. The voice-over is excellent, and the narration focuses on the most important details. I've always loved the channel's intro sound, and the background audio is soothing.
The Mayday / Air Crash Investigation episode on this event is pretty good and features the Captain. I highly recommend it. Thanks for another great upload!
Haumburg was the key to the captains ability to successfully crash, keeping his focus on aviation! Well done crew. Well done. I'm sorry you got such crappy training!
Omg thank you for giving us this nail-biting story that has a positive outcome! Nobody was killed in a plane accident that had to crash into a forest? That is absolutely incredible! Divine Intervention saved these passengers
ARN-WAW-BCN would be a very unusual routing for an SK flight. I think you will find that flight SK751 was in fact operating ARN-CPH-WAW. Not sure where BCN comes into it at all unless the aircraft was scheduled to operate a flight from CPH or ARN to BCN later in the day after completing it's WAW rotation.
Green Dot Aviation there is a weird incorrect fact in this video. When SAS ordered their new MD-80's from McDonnell-Douglas they were presented with the ATR system but SAS did not want it, for several reasons. They informed McD-D about this, but their new planes were delivered with the system DORMANT anyway. This is why the pilots were never told about this system. SAS didn't think they had it! Holmberg, the passanger Captain, had visited the US some time before this incident, and knew about the ATR system which is why he helped out and kept Rasmussen focused on saving the plane.
@@indianfan1029 We're very very used to icing conditions here in Sweden so I wonder how GDA could think that "SAS didn't train their pilots for engine surges" was a valid statement. They didn't train their pilots FOR ENGINE SURGES USING THE ATR SYSTEM because they didn't think they had that system installed.
Maybe it's just because I've never played any simulator but I think it would be so awesome if one of these aviation UA-camrs did a breakdown on how they get they make these amazing videos
Great video, as always. This one kind of touches on the idea of cockpit transparency. I feel like the element of transparency was vital to achieving the outcome of this incident. Just tiny things like the captain and FO not having to call the flight crew to tell them to prepare for ditching. I feel like there should be some way to take the load off with communication in emergency situations without compromising cockpit security. EDIT: To clarify, I'm just a viewer. So if there's something like this that I don't know about, sorry haha.
I heard of an old married couple (farmers) who were eating breakfast. Suddenly a man in a suit with a briefcase entered their house (in the middle of the winter) He asked for a taxi to the airport, he was so in a hurry. Needed to go to a meeting. I wonder if he was in chock or if he was just stupid. They though he was an Alien.
I had never considered the factor of the thermal mass of the fuel in the tanks, having been supercooled from high altitude flight the night before. Very interesting
Any chance I can get you to consider uploading your script to UA-cam and using actual captions instead of relying on auto-generated captions? Real captions are so much easier on the eyes and easier for me to follow along with. I'm hard of hearing and want to enjoy your videos! It's an easy process to do!
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minus 67c and minus 42c did you say minus 42 is colder ? thats wrong , because minus 67c is a lot colder then 42c,
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@@CristinaSimonsen Yes but he was talking about the fuel temperature which was just a little below zero and nowhere near -42c. The -67c was the outside temperature. 🙂
@@choisyaternata8050 thank you for clear that up for me , have a fantastic day
Sad fact about this accident, Cpt. Rasmunsen was so traumatised by it that he was diagnosed with PTSD and ended his pilot career a few months later. In an interview for the ACI series he mentioned that he lost trust on the airplane and he felt betrayed.
That’s sad because I think he did a hell of a job with the knowledge he had. He would have made a great pilot.
@@johndelconte9915hey but at the same time i feel him. You just want to get everyone home. You need confidence in the air.
He can do cargo to get confidence back.
That is truly tragic 😢. A great pilot no longer in the skies.
probably for the best
"Everyone survived" yeah that puts a smile on my face every time.
Me too. But yet, careers & lives were destroyed by the news media after the disaster. Stefan G. Rasmussen suffered PTSD from the incident due to survivor's guilt, and the media portrayed him (whether intentional or not) indirectly as one of the primary causes of the crash purely because they didn't fully realize that the airline had not given all their employees the necessary pilot training/emergency procedures regarding the engines. Public perception somewhat condemned the Captain until two years later, when officials acquitted them and deemed him a hero, given how no one died from the crash.
However, Stafen never flew again due to the level of scrutiny by many people during the initial investigations, alongside the trauma of the crash in which he lost his pilot's license, even though they never fought back to retain it because of the guilt they experienced that nearly cost the lives of his crew & passengers. Imagine the levels of hate on social media had this happened in the 2000s.
@@SolidAvenger1290 Thats just sad
u just ruined the whole episode for me, homie.
@@CurtisJeffries-cd5vu Homie this is a reupload and also wtf are you doing reading the comments before seeing the video?????
@cherryblossom2972 I was checking to see if anyone seen that this was uploaded yesterday, it had a different thumbnail, I was gonna watch it later, then it was gone. I was reading the comments to find out why it was takin down.
Petter from Mentour Pilot, who is from Sweden, said the plane impact was so relatively quiet, people in the surrounding houses had no idea... and that passengers came out of the forest and began knocking on doors for help
Mhm. I remember the news the morning this happened. That was what was said on the news as well. People had to walk from the accident site to the houses nearby in order to get to a phone and call for help (not everything was better in the times before the cell phone). The help was quick to arrive though. As were the news reporters.
As people in the houses were made aware of what had happened they showed up with blankets (this was in the Swedish winter after all) and hot drink (like coffee).
Just mentioning it as well, what the passengers remember the most wasn't the impact, but the silence in the whole aircraft from the moment the engines went out.
@@boringpolitician news reporters always arrive sooner than the emergency services 😆
This one is more impressive than Sully. Crash landing into a forest... and having only 8 injuries... and literally NO fatalities? One of the most, if not the most incredible feat of piloting of all time.
Spoiler alert! 😊
Look up United 232. That's my personal #1 incredible piloting feat by a commercial pilot.
@@Kreege oo-dll, ua 232 and jal 123 are all incredible
@@iamr4mi never heard of oo-dll until now. Thanks for that. I agree it is quite impressive
@@Hans-qi3wqdon’t read comments before watching 🤦♂️
I am truly amazed at how some pilots are able to make the very best of a worst case scenario and save themselves and their passengers from utter disaster while other pilots can turn a minor malfunction into an unmitigated calamity. Absolute respect for this crew for achieving the impossible. A crash into terrain with zero loss of life. A miracle!
They should give these people an award and call it the Sully Award.
That off duty pilot saved dozens of lives. The cockpit was a mess before he took control and kept the captain focused.
@@trigremlin It's better not to think about what could've happened without him. He must've made a huge difference.
Yeah, that one crew, which kept bickering about a tiny bulb and completely forgot to fly.
Nice point. In my experience, the worse a situation gets, the better the pilots can handle it, because their options go down. If you have a minor malfunction then you have many choices available to you and have to consider safety and company priories, but if you have dual engine failure or cargo fire for example, you only have one thing to do and you learned those skills early in your career before you even did your first solo.
The passenger/ pilot was a True Hero as Well. Not only did he bring the 2 pilots an extra set of eyes and hands he brought his knowledge and calm ways. The Captain was traumatized and its very well understandable. Not only his crews lives were in immediate harms way so were the 120 plus passengers. The Captain knew it was his responsibility to save everyone possible. He did better than that. Entire plane's people were able to see their loved ones...
Excellent video Green Dot.... I think I'm caught up on every video now!!!
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Captain Rasmussen was an ex fighter pilot. Yes they got help from a passenger/Captain but it was Rasmussen that under extreme stress managed to get the plane down on that field saving everyone onboard. He got one of Denmarks highest decorations from the Queen. After the accident he lost confidence in his abilities and never flew again. Captain Rasmussen we salute you!!!
Definitely salute Cpt. Rasmussen! He saved all his passengers. He couldn't possibly know about the thrust levers being increased automatically. or the fact that the deicing crew were not up to the job. Such a shame he never flew again.
That's the danish narrative. According to Swedish cpt Per Holmberg, cpt Rasmussen was overwhelmed and in a state of apathy when he entered the cockpit.
I worked with Sweden's leading disaster psychologist, who, on this occasion, worked with the pilots and crew. The Swedish captain, Holmberg, who was a passenger and former Viggen Pilot, took active command when he saw for himself how badly things were going in the cockpit as the cockpit-door was open, and when the Captain, Rasmussen, started searching checklists, (his primary task as capten is flying) even though the plane had only seconds left in the air, with no traction from the engines. Their were no time to go through a check-list. He made Captain Rasmussen to instead focus on gliding with a straight course, right angle / speed towards an open surface, as the slightest wrong rudder movement could cause the plane to lose airworthiness and crash with the result that everyone had died. Rasmussen received a defined degree of shock, which was also evident during the TV interview, and the fact that he stopped flying as a result. One can speculate on what would have happened if the Swedish captain had not been able to get into the cockpit, but the fact is that together, they saved lives. It was a team effort, but those who were involved still know that the Swedish captain's effort was decisive when you looked at the passage of time in the cockpit based on interviews and the black box. However, one should not look for scapegoats on an occasion when everyone survives.
@@JK-gw1yf Yeah, this is pretty evident when I read the cvr transcript. Holmberg had to remind him to fly the airplane more times than should have been necessary.
Holmberg also had knowledge about the ATR system from a visit to the US.
He fucked the whole thing up
It would’ve been far better of the passenger had been flying that day instead of
I remember seeing this on the Flight Channel where usually at the end, accompanied by sad music, a message displays “noone survived”…but instead this time it said “everyone survived” which was like OMFG YES!! 💪
no one
Kudos to all three pilots for their cooperation in this difficult situation. Seems like this was the absolute best possible result, given the pressure of the situation and the lack of information and training, they had received.
Hey green dot aviation. The new way to introduce the captain and F.0 is really cool. From a viewer prospective it gives us the actual info instead of just words.
Thanks, we’ll stick with this new method!
Sadly, Captain Stefan Rasmussen would never take to the skies again as the accident left him so traumatized and made him lose faith in the airplanes he was flying (due to the ATR system that he wasn't informed about)
honestly, considering how much successful piloting is based on knowledge of your aircraft and training, the fact that a key part of the accident was entirely out of his control (lack of training, lack of knowledge + control of an aspect of the plane) would shake me to my core. i'd dip out after that near-death experience too.
That sounds very possible. I had several falls off my motorbike over the years, but got on it again every time until one time when the motorbike flipped onto its side when approaching a roundabout at about 15 mph. I had not contacted or come near to contacting any vehicle or object. There was no gravel on the road and no ice (the temperature was 9°C). I gently tapped the brake lever and instantly the bike fell on its side. From then on I was reduced to a jelly whenever I had to turn even a gentle corner because I felt unable to predict how the bike would behave. If it could fall over in ideal conditions travelling in a straight line at slow speed, I could no longer have any confidence in what it might do next. My best theory to explain it was that I might have picked up some oil on the tyre a mile earlier which threw me the first time I used the brake. In the end I had to sell the bike.
@@stephenfennell
Oil, 1 mile before? Were you riding in Kuait?
I rode and raced off-road bikes for over 20 years, and managed 1 significant bike shop in that time. Was also Retail Finance Manager at a much larger shop.
I rode company used bikes to and from work many times, including 1100 cc sport bikes. (No point in buying when you can borrow.)
No, I never won anything important. But, I avoided several accidents on the street.
I have gone down hard many times without serious injury. (Broken collar bones are not a serious injury😅.)
I have gone over the handlebars too suddenly and quickly to let go, and broken my thumb because of my own grip strength.
You never fell enough to learn how to do it.
@@stephenfennell What a mystery. This certainly acted like a slip on something, but exactly what you had no idea. There's something called highsiding that I was warned about in MSF training where a wheel first slides, the bike tilts, then the wheel grips again throwing the bike on its side. The main caution there however wasn't against a freak event like yours, but against braking to the skidding point then releasing the brake before the bike comes to rest. I did that once when I came close to T-boning a truck that pulled out of a parking lot, fortunately not incurring the dreaded high-side when I let off the brakes when the truck darted out of my way and I reacted to the opportunity to regain control as though I had been driving a car (which of course cannot high-side). I should have remembered to let the bike skid to a halt, but on the other hand what was behind me might have run me over so maybe it was for the best.
This sounds like a small, virtually invisible slippery spot on the road to me, the perfect proverbial banana peel. You might have thought the bike was straight and level, but if the road had any significant "crown" that would be enough to change the attitude of the bike once the tire began to slip.
@@stephenfennell I fell on my 27 inch road bicycle. I was going maybe 3 mph and tried to make a sharp cut on wet pavement. It hurt. I got up slowly and all was good after a few days.
My favorite thing about flying the MD-80 was knowing that no matter what went sideways, the flight controls were good ole cables and pulleys and would work just fine no matter the electrical abnormality.
As a software developer working with vehicles/control-related things (leaving out details to keep confidentiality), the potential for errors terrifies me.
@@theRPGmaster same honestly. I don't work in critical infra but the kind of code that gets greenlit all the time around here... it scares me to think what the rest of the industry is doing.
One of the reasons they keep hauling passengers safely 60+ years after the airframe (DC-9) was designed.
Feels great to have green dot videos again
I'll be uploading 2 videos per month for the next few months ✈️
@@GreenDotAviationexciting to hear!
@@GreenDotAviation yippee
@@GreenDotAviationsuch great quality, twice monthly, what a treat, you must have had your Weetabix 🤣
The visuals, the music and the voice of the storytelling, this channel cannot be beat I tell you 😅
I was nearly moved to tears when you revealed that no one was killed in the crash. Stellar story telling. And incredible work from the three pilots.
Of all the aviation channels, yours is my favorite. Everything is explained in a way that a dummy like me can understand and the quality of your voice is calming.
My heart was racing during the second half of the video. The suspense and tension were insane, great video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
This crash is one of the rare examples where not a single life is lost. I still remember hearing about it at work, and the positive outcome just felt like a true miracle. If I remember correctly, the worst injury was one passsenger with some neurological damage caused by fractured discs. Obviously very tragic for that person, but things could have ended up so much worse with countless lives lost. Thankfully that was avoided.
Yup the audio is fixed this time round. Good Job.
I'm glad! Hope it was worth the wait
I didn't notice anything wrong @@GreenDotAviation
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@@GreenDotAviationwhat game do you take your ingame footage on?
@@DPool-mp8jl it is microsoft simulator
I work at Arlanda this night and connected a diesel cabin heater to 751, i remember it was a brand new plane and everything was clean, i take a loop around and look at the plane so i can see if the heater working properly,...they tok 751 to hangar number 4 at Arlanda so i have a close look at her again and this time she don´t look so new anymore,... her name was Dana Viking. The year after when we finish de-icing a aircraft they go upp on the wing and feel with hands if it was ice left.
Always nice to hear that everyone survived at the end. truly crazy
Production quality always fails to decline, damn - the editing is always so good 👏
Always fails to decline? 🤣
Never expected you here 😂
Unlike this aircraft
OMG supsnail yo bro
big fan
This is I think the main reason why all newer planes have the engines under the wings and not behind them like with the MD80. In this design ice releasing from the wings will not be ingested by the engines but released behind them instead.
Great video, my heart sank when they said hit trees, yet all walked away. That must have been one hell of a sturdy airframe with a pinch of luck involved. Poor de-icing, poor training= recipe for disaster
Thanks!
This makes me so happy that everybody survived. Excellent work by the pilots, even though they were under trained. They saved everybody’s life that day.
Absolutely, no denying that
Thank you for explaining "integral fuel storage" 2:00!
Had always wondered about this on airplanes~
I have never received any formal avaiation-related training and mostly relate to the topic through my engineering degree, but you make these case studies super easy and engaging to follow, and I'm thankful to be able to have access to such high quality media pretty much whenever and wherever
That’s exactly what I’m going for, glad you’re liking it!
Captain Stefan Rasmussen was quite traumatized after this incident and hardly ever talks about it anymore
Stefan G. Rasmussen shared a similar fate. The public was told by news media that he was the primary cause of the accident, and thus, he suffered a combination of survivor's guilt, PTSD, and public scrutiny to the point where he never wanted to fly again. Social media today can easily screw an innocent person's life if news outlets decide not to use facts but instead use their emotions.
2 years later, officials acquitted him and the crew for the incident because the SAS provided poor training and the ice on the wings, but the damage was already done. Most who would hear this story at first believe that in 1993, they considered him a villain instead of a hero who still saved the passengers after a crash event.
@@SolidAvenger1290 I was actually referring to him, thanks for correcting me
Bro is back after long time
12 hours isn't a long time :-P
More frequent uploads coming this summer!
@@GreenDotAviation Look forward to it mate, loving the content
i know these videos must be a ton of work, but a second channel where you cover all types of disasters would be incredible. You do such a great job with aviation disasters, I'd love to see you cover all types of incidents. ]
Dunno why i'm getting teary eyed
i'm happy everyone survived.
the capt was very lucky that he had some sort of a guardian angel in the form of the relief pilot! without him i don't think crew would have been able to focus on other factors, due to their heavy work load.
This accident had a lasting effect on SAS and the safety measures implemented as result of it are still adhered to on the CRJ planes they use nowadays. The clear ice check is always completed prior to the plane leaving the gate and sometimes is also requested after de-icing has been performed.
As someone that does de-icing in Finland, I can say that it can be very hard to actually see clear ice from the cabin of a de-icing vehicle. Usually the only time you see it is when the sheets of ice come off of the wing with the de-icing fluid. However, you just have to trust the process and do your best to concentrate on those areas where it occurs the most. Freezing rain conditions are probably the worst though as it can cover pretty much every surface of the plane, especially underneath the wings.
audio sounds much better, amazing video as always
Glad you enjoyed it!
the editing really stepped up
That's the goal!
The new editing style is awesome
Glad you like it - this is something we're always trying to improve on. Big props to Editor Aviral for this
For us oldies, is that good sick or bad sick?
@@amazer747 for me, its the good sick
I've rephrased my statement to avoid confusion
@@amazer747 I meant it in a good way, no worries everyone grows old, I'll be in the same situation in a couple decades
Ive waited so long for this story to get covered! much love and we usually call it "The miracle of gottröra" :D
I well remember, in 1981, an early morning flight from Manchester to Glasgow. At 0700 hrs on a cold and frosty morning, we boarded the British Airways BAC 1/11 aircraft. Everything was normal and we lined up on the runway, the Captain revved up the two engines and accelerated along the runway. I was a frequent flyer so I could judge just about V1. Just as we almost reached VI the captain slammed all the brakes on and came to a controlled halt on the runway. He then came over the intercom and said, and I quote, 'Sorry, Ladies & Gentlemen but the right-hand engine had a little bit of early morning dew in it. We will return and retry. Everything seemed normal and we returned to the end of the runway and started our second run. We flew effortlessly into the bright crisp, blue, morning sky and enjoyed a delightful flight to Glasgow passing over the unbelievably beautiful scenery of the Lake District.
Weird, considering this would more often than not put the brakes in a temperature state that requires cooling before making another takeoff attempt. Maybe back then it wasn't considered such a big deal but nowadays you'd have a whole bunch of checklists to go through after rejecting a takeoff so close to V1.
@@chinamotoadventures2374 Maybe the protocols were a whole lot different then. I do remember there was certainly no waiting, we just taxied around and had a second run. There again procedures have changed in so many areas in over forty years, not always for the better.
Man, everytime I think your videos cant get any better, you put in even more visual and sound details to really immerse you. Keep up the great work, love your video’s!
The engine is warm so it may be cleared but the wings need to be cleaned off of ice. De icer or physically brush it off the wing.
Another excellent video. My father was a captain for United airlines and I remember him telling me about this incident when I asked him about ice and the risks there in.
I like how this video was uploaded just after dinner time in Australia. Perfect timing to relax and watch some green dot aviation
9:37 Swear when this music starts in any of your videos I get chills
Congratulations! One of the best youtube channels ever!
Go check mentor pilot, he is in a whole different league
@@CristianDFI prefer Green Dot. Much better storytelling
Mentour is for more technical stuff while green dot has better storytelling
Thank you for maintaining the suspense throughout the video by not revealing the fate/outcome of the flight early on in the video.
I hate it when aviation UA-camrs reveal early on whether the plane crashed or survived, completely kills the fun of watching their videos. Good on you for not doing that, thank you.
I watch these on repeat to fall asleep too. Its a great show. But his voice is so relaxing it helps me sleep
I just want to say that I was born and raised in jersey, and as a child, I watched the two planes hit the Twin Towers. Since then, at the age of 10, I've had huge paranoia of flying in planes and have never. I'm 32 now, and for the past 2 weeks, I've been bench watching all of your videos. These videos have been extremely life changing for me. Hence, yes, there's a bunch of videos where planes do crash, and that raises my fear. On the other hand, stories like this just give me so much hope and understanding how well the captain and crew are in at times of despair. Making me understand more and more and actually helping me get over this fear.
Thank you so much for making these videos! They are so incredible, detailed minute by minute, how things happen.
I will ask if you could make a Spotify account. I do work outside and would love to just put these on in the background and just enjoy your true stories!
You should consider taking the train! There's more to look at between naps.
my dad was working in mærsk air at the time and it was quite the interesting story - got to meet stefan once very briefly while i was in mærsk air as a school student practice not very long after that while visiting a sas facility getting some parts to bring back to mærsk as they also used the md80 and you could tell he was very stressed about the situation even after he got cleared of any suspicions(?)
ooooo your animation has gotten so good! I see that crisp! I've been watching a lot of videos from the past on your channel so I see the growth my friend! Keep it up
Thank you! That's exactly what we're going for
I’ve been flying since 1987 and have well over 3,000 hours in the air as PIC and this is the thing that haunts us on every takeoff because the dangers in flight generally are on takeoff and landing, which is why we say that flying is 99% boredom and one percent abject terror
it appears the captain did an incredibly good job setting that crate down and making sure that everybody
passenger and crew
made it out alive which according to my CFI is a successful landing
Although I'm not a pilot, nor do I aspire to be one, I persistently wait for new video uploads since I've watched all the clips on the channel. I watch other channels with much more video content than GDA, but I keep craving more uploads from them. The voice-over is excellent, and the narration focuses on the most important details. I've always loved the channel's intro sound, and the background audio is soothing.
Thanks for fixing the audio. I know a lot of commenters say they didn't even notice the issue, but they don't have the same standards that you do.
The Mayday / Air Crash Investigation episode on this event is pretty good and features the Captain. I highly recommend it.
Thanks for another great upload!
Ive missed your videos so much! Thank you for posting. It was definitely worth the wait. And goodluck with your own studies!
Your videos keep getting better and better! I loved the text breakdown of the pilots' experience as you explained it.
Insane that everyone survived. That's always good to hear
The quality of these Green Dot videos always felt pretty sharp to me! 👍
Haumburg was the key to the captains ability to successfully crash, keeping his focus on aviation! Well done crew. Well done. I'm sorry you got such crappy training!
One of the best production quality that I've ever seen, I can't believe that this is free!
Thanks, we’re always trying to improve the quality of the vids 🙏🏼
22:26 I know it's probably just an animation backdrop, but what a kick in the throat with all those open fields BEHIND the aircraft.
Again, absolutely superbly explained. I've seen other reports on this case, but this one really is the best! Congratulations!
Glad you liked it!
Omg thank you for giving us this nail-biting story that has a positive outcome! Nobody was killed in a plane accident that had to crash into a forest? That is absolutely incredible! Divine Intervention saved these passengers
I wasn’t aware of this incident, but wow great work by these pilots! These guys saved a lot of lives.
Audio is much better now 👍
The quality of your videos has improved over time too with the visual aids and details, really enjoying it 🙂👌
I'm very glad to hear that!
ARN-WAW-BCN would be a very unusual routing for an SK flight. I think you will find that flight SK751 was in fact operating ARN-CPH-WAW. Not sure where BCN comes into it at all unless the aircraft was scheduled to operate a flight from CPH or ARN to BCN later in the day after completing it's WAW rotation.
That snub on Boeing though... Good one bud! Laughed a little on that one.
Agreed
The name of the aircraft was “Dana Viking”, not “Ivar Viking” as shown in the animation. Ivar Viking was a Boeing 747. Regards from a guy named Ivar
Your editing is so advanced and amazing! I give respect to your videos!
This presentation tells me much more about this event than I ever knew before.
I’m glad, that’s what I’m going for!
Superb use of simulation on this excellent reconstruction. Kind of training video we didn't have in my day.
Green Dot Aviation there is a weird incorrect fact in this video.
When SAS ordered their new MD-80's from McDonnell-Douglas they were presented with the ATR system but SAS did not want it, for several reasons. They informed McD-D about this, but their new planes were delivered with the system DORMANT anyway. This is why the pilots were never told about this system. SAS didn't think they had it!
Holmberg, the passanger Captain, had visited the US some time before this incident, and knew about the ATR system which is why he helped out and kept Rasmussen focused on saving the plane.
That certainly puts SAS into a lot better light.
@@indianfan1029 We're very very used to icing conditions here in Sweden so I wonder how GDA could think that "SAS didn't train their pilots for engine surges" was a valid statement.
They didn't train their pilots FOR ENGINE SURGES USING THE ATR SYSTEM because they didn't think they had that system installed.
Thanks for this diagnosis video.. I watched other documentaries but yours are better and very professional with great graphics.
Excellent video! Loved the little dig at Boeing in the ad read, hah!
Amazing graphics and simple story telling.
Loved it❤ and glad to hear everyone was alive.
The graphics in this video - insanely good! Thank you for all the great content.
Bro survived a dual engine failure AND the F-104. That’s the real miracle 3:11
Never knew I was an aviation geek till i watched every green dot aviation video and was waiting for them to drop a new video! Much love💗
I find this one very interesting. Good video
You know it's going to be a good day when Green Dot Aviation uploads 😁😁
Maybe it's just because I've never played any simulator but I think it would be so awesome if one of these aviation UA-camrs did a breakdown on how they get they make these amazing videos
Thanks! That’s something to consider for the future
Thank you for fixing the audio as well as you could on short notice
I love the videos man! Keep up the great work 😃
Nice to see ya back
Brilliantly done, as always. 👍
Some fascinating added insight from these comments as well. I really enjoy this channel and the people who follow.
I really enjoyed the stats breakdown for the pilot and FO. Your videos are awesome, keep up the good work!
Im very excited for the more frequent uploads in the coming months :)
Always love a Green Dot video :)
Great video, as always. This one kind of touches on the idea of cockpit transparency. I feel like the element of transparency was vital to achieving the outcome of this incident. Just tiny things like the captain and FO not having to call the flight crew to tell them to prepare for ditching. I feel like there should be some way to take the load off with communication in emergency situations without compromising cockpit security.
EDIT: To clarify, I'm just a viewer. So if there's something like this that I don't know about, sorry haha.
Great video, and thank goodness everyone survived.
I already watched the video, but I'm glad you took your time and fixed the audio ❤
Once again great video i really enjoy your content 😊 and have watched all your videos and enjoyed everyone! Keep up the great work
I really enjoy your videos. Thank you for your hard work allowing us common folk to understand
without Holmberg intervening, this would've been a disaster.
Good on you for fixing the audio so quickly!
6:47 passive aggressiveness towards Boeing 😭☠️👍
TOP QUALITY as always, cant wait for the next one
Next one coming soon!
Thank you for fixing this! Definitely a better listen.
Thanks for the new upload. Sound is way better now. Well researched and narrated and produced. Thanks for all the work you put into these videos. ☘️🇮🇪
I heard of an old married couple (farmers) who were eating breakfast. Suddenly a man in a suit with a briefcase entered their house (in the middle of the winter)
He asked for a taxi to the airport, he was so in a hurry. Needed to go to a meeting. I wonder if he was in chock or if he was just stupid.
They though he was an Alien.
I had never considered the factor of the thermal mass of the fuel in the tanks, having been supercooled from high altitude flight the night before. Very interesting
Any chance I can get you to consider uploading your script to UA-cam and using actual captions instead of relying on auto-generated captions? Real captions are so much easier on the eyes and easier for me to follow along with. I'm hard of hearing and want to enjoy your videos! It's an easy process to do!