Thanks for having me guys, was great to finally sit down and chat with you both. Was great to hear the M.U.Ms in action after the show. They really did sound great. Super impressed with everything you have achieved.
I did some new room calibration today and listening to some reference tracks, I played some movie soundtracks and am always amazed by the awesome tight low-end in movie productions. The impact of the sound quality is mostly incredible good. Even music for film has that sound quality to it, maybe sound engineers for film have a different approach and techniques compared to pure music engineers. Great chat guys, I love this stuff 😊
I think a less complicated way to add analogue in Atmos is something like the McDSP units but made for Atmos... that would make it more cost effective.... oh... Mark just said it... comment to show I'm clever too 🤦♂😂
Really interesting to hear some facts about the Atmos to stereo fold down compatibility... this is my most thought about aspect of Atmos mixing... That is the basis of the blue print to Atmos mixing... full setup to sound bar with a couple rears, to a sound bar only to 3D single Atmos speaker to Biannual headphones, to Stereo to Bluetooth stereo... even down to mono. This is where the main stream will find it's popularity in songs mixed in Atmos. The second most interesting thing is being able to walk around in the mix, and not much being able but it being essential in mixing. I am looking at a raising desk already and think I will then setup my Atmos speakers at standing level. After this, you stepped on the subject of processing the sound in front of you before placing them. This is something I have already thought about when throwing ideas around in my own head with the process before having the chance to practice and even thought of a single speaker for this. Now hearing this is what a professional is doing, I am more confident that I in the right mind of thinking. Plus, I was not sure I am financially ready for a proper Atmos setup and thinking I could have cheaper speakers for Atmos setup just for placement. Making sure the Atmos setup is all the same speakers and only processing on the better stereo monitors. I might have done the silly thing of making those the left and right without thinking. Not sure if this is a good idea or not but will at least get me working and learning in the field of Atmos. Currently thinking about a Trinnov Nova, the MUM-6's and a Dynaudio Core Sub Compact (for now until the MUM ((will they be MUM? they will not be modular and upgradable by design I'm thinking)) sub line up is here) and no idea for the cheaper Atmos setup... mount-ability is important. Presonus Eris Pro 6 for the bottom 7 and 4's for the celling as example due to the mount system. Swissonic T204 times 11 is a super super cheap option to be easily mounted... or have enough to go with Genelec 8330 APM's... or maybe the mini iLoud MTM's is better to just be easy to mount... no idea... would have liked the Tannoy Gold's just due to liking the tone of them as it'll just be for positioning, but a hassle to mount. Would like to add the Oria instead of coming out of a Avid Carbon just for the fact I can simply play Atmos material in any way and have the room correction already there. Will not be going with a 10K trinnov setup for a cheaper Atmos setup of course.
Do you think a new I/O format will be created with Atmos in mind and maybe will open up the analogue integration into Atmos. Oria did the obvious of making the D25 to be all AES outputs. But is not AES connection a stereo focus connection? When there can be odd number in Atmos setups and that speaker numbers can change, would it not best that I/O can come out in single channels? And then a single channel system could make things less complicated, currently it's too much of a third world problem until Atmos is the norm so not point, just adapt what we already have for the moment.
AES can be a pain to wire up due to a single XLR digitally transmitting a stereo pair, but fortunately most devices that talk AES (including our Audient ORIA and Trinnov MC Pro) let you reconfigure the pairs. Otherwise you end up with cables zigzagging the room! But I think the future will either be Dante or some other AoIP solution. Then you can easily patch in analogue gear with AoIP breakout boxes where you need to.
Maybe a modern version of the Sintefex FX8000 replicator could exist in software that could impulse response ones analogue chain so that you could then hear roughly what your adjustments would be doing in real time for all channels... ... then automation can adjust the real thing in real time, running each track through the chain one by one for a kind of off-line processing. Hardware would either have to be modified for automated adjustment (like a replacement front panel) or have contraptions built to control the knobs like that online analogue processing service does..
This is a similar process you can do using STL Tones control hub. You can capture the tone of your analogue mastering chain that is applied to the stereo master and put that capture across every object in the atmos mix.
To be fair, this was 12 years or so ago when I was forming the company. I certainly wouldn't be able to work for exposure at this stage of the business.
Thanks for having me guys, was great to finally sit down and chat with you both. Was great to hear the M.U.Ms in action after the show. They really did sound great. Super impressed with everything you have achieved.
Did the Birdy Song in Atmos make you cry Paul? Just doesn't connect in stereo does it?
@natdenchfield8061 in atmos that song went to a whole new level. I actually felt like I was in the Top Of The Pops crowd.
Super interesting thanks guys
I did some new room calibration today and listening to some reference tracks, I played some movie soundtracks and am always amazed by the awesome tight low-end in movie productions. The impact of the sound quality is mostly incredible good. Even music for film has that sound quality to it, maybe sound engineers for film have a different approach and techniques compared to pure music engineers.
Great chat guys, I love this stuff 😊
Great Interview
Big fan of both channels excellent colab very informative
Thank you
Paul is serious! MUCH LOVE GUYS
Thanks mate
Thanks guys, great chat.
I will love to see him , mixing I. Your room using the mum 8 and compare to PMC even the PMC it’s another league in terms of price .
What he going to ear it and we won’t ?? Dammm
I think a less complicated way to add analogue in Atmos is something like the McDSP units but made for Atmos... that would make it more cost effective.... oh... Mark just said it... comment to show I'm clever too 🤦♂😂
Really interesting to hear some facts about the Atmos to stereo fold down compatibility... this is my most thought about aspect of Atmos mixing... That is the basis of the blue print to Atmos mixing... full setup to sound bar with a couple rears, to a sound bar only to 3D single Atmos speaker to Biannual headphones, to Stereo to Bluetooth stereo... even down to mono.
This is where the main stream will find it's popularity in songs mixed in Atmos.
The second most interesting thing is being able to walk around in the mix, and not much being able but it being essential in mixing.
I am looking at a raising desk already and think I will then setup my Atmos speakers at standing level.
After this, you stepped on the subject of processing the sound in front of you before placing them.
This is something I have already thought about when throwing ideas around in my own head with the process before having the chance to practice and even thought of a single speaker for this.
Now hearing this is what a professional is doing, I am more confident that I in the right mind of thinking.
Plus, I was not sure I am financially ready for a proper Atmos setup and thinking I could have cheaper speakers for Atmos setup just for placement.
Making sure the Atmos setup is all the same speakers and only processing on the better stereo monitors.
I might have done the silly thing of making those the left and right without thinking.
Not sure if this is a good idea or not but will at least get me working and learning in the field of Atmos.
Currently thinking about a Trinnov Nova, the MUM-6's and a Dynaudio Core Sub Compact (for now until the MUM ((will they be MUM? they will not be modular and upgradable by design I'm thinking)) sub line up is here) and no idea for the cheaper Atmos setup... mount-ability is important.
Presonus Eris Pro 6 for the bottom 7 and 4's for the celling as example due to the mount system.
Swissonic T204 times 11 is a super super cheap option to be easily mounted... or have enough to go with Genelec 8330 APM's... or maybe the mini iLoud MTM's is better to just be easy to mount... no idea... would have liked the Tannoy Gold's just due to liking the tone of them as it'll just be for positioning, but a hassle to mount.
Would like to add the Oria instead of coming out of a Avid Carbon just for the fact I can simply play Atmos material in any way and have the room correction already there.
Will not be going with a 10K trinnov setup for a cheaper Atmos setup of course.
McDSP Atmos console?... then with a new universal board add option for 3rd parties to ad their own processing boards
Do you think a new I/O format will be created with Atmos in mind and maybe will open up the analogue integration into Atmos.
Oria did the obvious of making the D25 to be all AES outputs.
But is not AES connection a stereo focus connection?
When there can be odd number in Atmos setups and that speaker numbers can change, would it not best that I/O can come out in single channels?
And then a single channel system could make things less complicated, currently it's too much of a third world problem until Atmos is the norm so not point, just adapt what we already have for the moment.
AES can be a pain to wire up due to a single XLR digitally transmitting a stereo pair, but fortunately most devices that talk AES (including our Audient ORIA and Trinnov MC Pro) let you reconfigure the pairs. Otherwise you end up with cables zigzagging the room! But I think the future will either be Dante or some other AoIP solution. Then you can easily patch in analogue gear with AoIP breakout boxes where you need to.
Is Paul on the Ray? Sounds like the sensors are picking up his hands whenever they move in front and dropping the level.
Well spotted, yes, I got him to move closer and hold his hands down a bit, a bit into the stream :)
Or was Ray on the Paul??
@@PresentDayProduction yea, saw that literally five minutes later. 😂
Maybe a modern version of the Sintefex FX8000 replicator could exist in software that could impulse response ones analogue chain so that you could then hear roughly what your adjustments would be doing in real time for all channels...
... then automation can adjust the real thing in real time, running each track through the chain one by one for a kind of off-line processing. Hardware would either have to be modified for automated adjustment (like a replacement front panel) or have contraptions built to control the knobs like that online analogue processing service does..
This is a similar process you can do using STL Tones control hub. You can capture the tone of your analogue mastering chain that is applied to the stereo master and put that capture across every object in the atmos mix.
That sounds interesting, I'll check it out..
My Mrs knows her rolls in the the house and I know mine ....class no woke here and all the better for it. 😂
It works well for us
Spiderman topic: Paul worked and got paid in exposure but it was a better deal. Don't let customers hear this story 😊
To be fair, this was 12 years or so ago when I was forming the company. I certainly wouldn't be able to work for exposure at this stage of the business.