I bought a super combo raptor 30 years ago. Like 2006. Took 4 years self teaching myself. Only a few crashes. Back in 2015 I bought the DJI Naza H flight controller for my raptor. Takes flying helis to a different level. But after a few flights I put it on display in my man cave. Tonight I literally got her down cleaning all the dust off. Had to order a new rx battery but can’t wait to get her flying. Then I come on UA-cam and see your raptor video!!! Thank you
Thanks. I learned without gyros so those new controllers actually hinder me. But whatever it takes to fly is good so happy flying to you and no crashing!
I bought my Hirobo Shuttle, 1983, as I remember. It never had a gyro, but I loved the way it flew. Later I graduated to a used Kalt 50 sized, finally broke down and installed a gyro because I worried about it crashing into our livestock. ;-) I lost battery power on my old JR tx on landing, she took off straight up then nose dived at a 45 degree angle into the ground. She sits in my basement, as I got into electric helicopters, multirotors, Phantom, Mavic etc. I will say the Kalt felt like I was actually flying in the cockpit, something I do miss. Always a pleasure to watch your videos!
glad that you could used the parts I sent you. I built quite a few of those birds for the local hobby shops around me. I was known as the rc doctor as I did a lot of repair work on rc's. I even though some how to fly. the good old days.
Ahh brings back memories when 90% of everything was kit form and only 10% RTR - I had an Eco8 and Voyager E seventeen years ago, and had as much fun building them as flying them.. Excellent video by the way !
Nice model, I still fly my 1999 Raptor 30 V1 on it's OS 32SXH now and again. As you no doubt know, they fly soo much better/smoother on a decent pair of carbon blades...👍
Always nice to see you fly. I missed the boat on glow copters, but I'm having fun with the electric ones. I started researching a bit and there is nothing like the Raptor out there these days. Maybe I should snap on up before they are all gone. Thanks for the vid.
The newer raptor’s they will work just as good as the old parts that’s what I had done I have two raptor 30s and I own one raptor 50 and 90 so I still fly them not as hard as I use to but I still have them glad I do I got them when I was 23 years old and I am now 45 years old and they are still like brand new
It is great to see another Raptor up in the sky, especially in such a classic setup. Out of every I've flown, it is the smoothest and the most gratuitous. Still a great machine for F3C I kinda know your experience with sourcing parts, as I had to rebuild my electric 50 Titan after a crash this summer, after I found out that it's finally discontinued and part stocks are drying up. I managed to fix it, but just in case I picked up new Titan SE kit, should I ever need to rebuilld it.
Awaiting parts on this supposedly 17 year old, brand-new and complete Thunder Tiger Raptor 30 Heli had me building with anticipation. But when all the missing parts finally came from all over the world (Thank you ChasingWaves), I got it done and took it out for the first time to see if it would fly. This is what happened. Thanks for watching and please subscribe.
NightFlyyer excellent Dave !! So awesome that you have finished the build and already its flying ! Lol wicked cool my friend! I was more then Happy to help you out anytime Dave , happy flying buddy !
@@kevingoldbey7401 Not sure, as I hate to try to count and move the needles when it is running good. Rule of thumb is 1 1/2 out on both needles. I had lots of trouble with the Thunder Tiger engine needle settings so changed it out for OS. 32.
I've got one of these - 100% complete with XP8103 Radio and ALL accessories - still in working condition. - Interested? Even has fuel (might be difficult to ship though).
Dave, Was watching one of your other videos of the Hirobo Shuttle and I have an OS .32 with the pull start, muffler, engine mount, fan that yours if you want it. It hasn't been run in about 25 years, but still turns over stiffly. I'll take of the backplate and put some light oil to see if it will free up. I'll sent a PM with my email address. Love all your videos, especially the ones of the vintage aircraft and helis. Brings back fond memories before my back injuries.
Dave, The bearings are not smooth. I have ordered parts to rebuild the motor and will ship it when finished. I liked this motor because no electric starter was needed. I had also used your technique for the remote glow plug wiring.
Dave, Sent a private message with my email address. Need some advice on dismantling the engine. Seems the conrod won't slide on the piston pin to allow the conrod to slide off the crankshaft pin.
Very nice flying bud I love how they fly nice and smooth in joy the hack out of the raptor 30 bud but add little more fuel to it so she smokes a little bit more less ware on the engine
@@NightFlyyer hmmm I have the same heli as the one you have in the video. But my starting shaft seems to spin loosely clockwise, and when I try to turn it counter-clockwise, it wouldn't go, like it's locked from going counter-clockwise. Do you know what I could be missing? You sir, got a new subscriber!
@@johnpaulino1565 Well is is supposed to turn loosely cw, as it's on a one way shaft. To start the engine, it will feel tight, but should turn over the engine. If it wont turn CCW, the engine could be seized, the 1 way bearing could be seized, or the clutch was overheated in a crash and has fused together, as the bell housing for the clutch is plastic. You need to drop the engine out, and do some inspecting. Thanks for the Sub. Good luck.
Hi I finally got it to start!! Apparently the glowplug was flooded. Had anothe question, my heli came with Hitec gy-130 but it seems defective... it is making the rudder stutter and wont follow my input commands. Can i use any head lock gyro? Thanks!
@@johnpaulino1565 It can use any gyro. If it is fluttering, it's set for too much gain. It also must be turned on flat on the ground and set for 15 seconds before flight. I don't like gyros, so use mostly just rate gyros, not heading lock. Good luck and don't give up.
Most do, as that is how to balance them, like an airplane wing. CG is balanced for level flight with the lead weights placed near the front of the blade. Good question. Thanks.
@@NightFlyyer I have a carbon main blade upgrade coming in the mail and was wondering about this. If you have an accident and crash your heli, those lead weights can become lethal projectiles but i guess it`s the same with carbon blades then. I divided 1550 rpm with 60 so around 26 rounds pr second is the math on these r/c heli blades. A respectable velocity.
@@mybluebelly Those weights are thin lead rods molded in just behind the blade leading edge. I’ve crashed several helis and they have never come out. My blades wood or cf have never broken in half and any peices never flew far. So relax and you’ll be fine.
@@NightFlyyer Way back when i learned to hover, the ground effect made my heli flip over and crash. I had my car parked maybe 30 yards away facing the heli and with the bonnet up. One of these lead weights blasted right into the underside of the hood/bonnet making a pretty bad dent. Had the bonnet not been open, i would have had to dish out for a new windshield. Dangerous stuff those lead weights.
@@mybluebelly Well that is rare in my experience of 45 years of heli flying which I even broke my foot after getting hit by the blades. I guess just dont crash.
TT R50, R30 is very good rc NITRO heli. I myself learn fly nitro heli with Raptor 30 back in around 2000! But sadly they stopped production on it now. as too many diff class of electric heli in the market and the GPS-assisted drone took away more market. As technology advanced, now all rc heli no need fly bar nowaday, all FBL or DFC rotor head now.
@@NightFlyyer furthermore in Singapore this tiny country as space constrain, CAAS new UNMANNED AIRCRAFT regulations made more difficulty into rc hobby. Now people need to register all rc aircraft beyong 250g, if over 7kg need UA PILOT LICENSE. 😰😰😭😭
@@AlexBongRCFunLand I know. Such a shame, but people with drones fly so high with no common sense, it makes it rough on us model airplane and heli pilots and we all get punished.
@@kevingoldbey7401 6 top and 6 bottom. Total movement is 12 degrees. Increasing pitch a little more may be okay, but if it starts dragging the engine down, you will have to lower it. It is trial and error.
@@NightFlyyer really I don't fly this heli for about 6 years I still have it because was a gift, but I do start the engine and test the servos the reason I don't fly it is because I swap to drones and I don't have to travel to the local park to fly.
Another enjoyable trip down memory lane. I bought the rtf R30 when it was released. The tt36 was not a great engine by any means, the tried and true os 32sxh netted great results. I flew the heck out of it, learned mild 3d. Crashed, fixed, flew, repeat! Ive owned 3 more since that one. Anyone looking for great tips on this bird, go to raptortechnique.com This channel makes me want restore/fly an old nitro, more people should follow suit! Challenge yourself!
Hi mate my engine is red hot when I try fly it could u tell me what I should set my needels at it's a is max 32 engine what should the fuel needels should be set at and the needels that is in the throttle leaver please
If it is too lean it will start to lift off the ground and die. I set mine to just that max lean and back it out 1/3 turn. They run hot, but not red hot. Maybe your fan is slipping or damaged or missing. That will cause overheat. I do not know the number of turns that this is set at, and as you know, I am not going in to count, as mine is set. I think the main needle is about 1 1/2 turns, but start with 2 ccw turns out from all the way in. It takes patience. Richen the low speed needle a 1/4 turn and see what that does. Or take it out, put a 9x6 prop on it and run it on the bench. Good luck.
Hi mate no I have all brand new parts on the heli new clutch and fan to I will put them all way in and try 1/14 turns out on the throttle side and 2 out one the fuel side to see if this works I thank u so much pal
Well, if you are a good heli pilot, and it has a radio, I guess so, as parts are very hard to find, so if you crash it, it may not be worth it. Good luck.
Love your worke on all the old helis keep them nitros burning strong
Thanks so kindly, Cliff. I have just restored a Hirobo Shuttle, so stay tuned for that. All I need is some good weather! LOL
I bought a super combo raptor 30 years ago. Like 2006. Took 4 years self teaching myself. Only a few crashes. Back in 2015 I bought the DJI Naza H flight controller for my raptor. Takes flying helis to a different level. But after a few flights I put it on display in my man cave. Tonight I literally got her down cleaning all the dust off. Had to order a new rx battery but can’t wait to get her flying. Then I come on UA-cam and see your raptor video!!! Thank you
Thanks. I learned without gyros so those new controllers actually hinder me. But whatever it takes to fly is good so happy flying to you and no crashing!
I bought my Hirobo Shuttle, 1983, as I remember. It never had a gyro, but I loved the way it flew. Later I graduated to a used Kalt 50 sized, finally broke down and installed a gyro because I worried about it crashing into our livestock. ;-) I lost battery power on my old JR tx on landing, she took off straight up then nose dived at a 45 degree angle into the ground. She sits in my basement, as I got into electric helicopters, multirotors, Phantom, Mavic etc. I will say the Kalt felt like I was actually flying in the cockpit, something I do miss. Always a pleasure to watch your videos!
Incredible Build and Test Flight by a Marine that doesn't quit and knows how to improvise is a wonder to see. Oorah, Dave for a job well done.
Thanks Bud, I appreciate that . Never give up!
glad that you could used the parts I sent you. I built quite a few of those birds for the local hobby shops around me. I was known as the rc doctor as I did a lot of repair work on rc's. I even though some how to fly. the good old days.
Yes, I was able to fix a bet tail boom on another old Concept 30, with those parts, so I really appreciate it. Thank you! Happy flying!
great, its good to see these classic bird still flying.
My v2 50 is still my favorite heli, shes seen a few upgrades over the years and still flys great. Love watching your videos.
Thanks kindly. Happy flying!
I have a 50v2. Where can i find upgrades for a metal rotor assembly, have any ideas?
Ahh brings back memories when 90% of everything was kit form and only 10% RTR - I had an Eco8 and Voyager E seventeen years ago, and had as much fun building them as flying them.. Excellent video by the way !
Yes building can be fun especially if you have all the parts. Lots of laughs. Thanks much!
GOOD Bird!! I owned 1 >10 yrs old which is my birthday gift from my wife, I upgraded it to Raptor 50 SE at later time. It's sit on my shelf now.
Ahh. Well maybe you should dust it off and go fly it! Thanks!
Hahaha...sure will do it. I missed flying!!
Nice model, I still fly my 1999 Raptor 30 V1 on it's OS 32SXH now and again. As you no doubt know, they fly soo much better/smoother on a decent pair of carbon blades...👍
They sure do. Thanks so much, David.
I just got a vintage raptor 30 v1 flying for a friend. All the metal parts were covered in surface rust. Got it flying though!
Right on!f Glad to hear that. Hopefully it is still going. Thanks.
Looked like loads of fun. I'm glad you were able to locate the missing parts and complete the kit.
Thanks very kindly!
Always nice to see you fly. I missed the boat on glow copters, but I'm having fun with the electric ones. I started researching a bit and there is nothing like the Raptor out there these days. Maybe I should snap on up before they are all gone. Thanks for the vid.
Thanks. I appreciate that. If you ever try a " power" heli I bet you would love it!! Happy flying!!
NightFlyer Dave; that sure was a Nice Build Video & Flight of the Raptor 36 ! Your just Great ! Thanks for another Nice Video !
Thanks very much. I appreciate your comments and long time subscription!
i love it. it has been my dream for the 11 years ive been in this hobby to own a raptor 30 and some day i will.
Great. Check Ebay.
Super stable looks great
Thanks much.
@@NightFlyyer no problem
Mr. Dave, Great to see your copter project a success and glad to see the 350 as your aerial camera-man. Great flying.
Thanks a lot Kyle. I appreciate it all!
great job me herbert!!! keep em coming cant wait for the next one
Thanks very much!!
Great job Mr Herbert!
Thanks a lot!
Great job again. I have 8 nitro helicopters 5 raptor 50's two concept 30's one frenzy js helicopter. Love the raptor. Thanks again for your video
Thanks. I appreciate hearing from other heli pilots. Thanks and happy flying.
The newer raptor’s they will work just as good as the old parts that’s what I had done I have two raptor 30s and I own one raptor 50 and 90 so I still fly them not as hard as I use to but I still have them glad I do I got them when I was 23 years old and I am now 45 years old and they are still like brand new
Great to heart that. Thanks.
I love my Raptor30-50-90. They fly just great.
They all do pretty well. Thanks.
nice work Mr. Herbert, you have the patience of Job.
Thanks very much!
Love your videos.
Thank you.
Thanks kindly!
It look like a fun time to build.....good video Dave!
Thanks Don. I appreciate that.
It is great to see another Raptor up in the sky, especially in such a classic setup. Out of every I've flown, it is the smoothest and the most gratuitous. Still a great machine for F3C
I kinda know your experience with sourcing parts, as I had to rebuild my electric 50 Titan after a crash this summer, after I found out that it's finally discontinued and part stocks are drying up. I managed to fix it, but just in case I picked up new Titan SE kit, should I ever need to rebuilld it.
Good thinking. I may do the same if I need something else. Thanks and happy flying!
Awaiting parts on this supposedly 17 year old, brand-new and complete Thunder Tiger Raptor 30 Heli had me building with anticipation. But when all the missing parts finally came from all over the world (Thank you ChasingWaves), I got it done and took it out for the first time to see if it would fly. This is what happened. Thanks for watching and please subscribe.
NightFlyyer excellent Dave !! So awesome that you have finished the build and already its flying ! Lol wicked cool my friend! I was more then Happy to help you out anytime Dave , happy flying buddy !
You really did! Again thank you very much!
I have an align 500 I need some help getting it set up rite.also bought three 450s aall there but don't run I know nothing about setting them up.
Hi could u tell me what u set the high speed needel and the low please how many turns out from closed
@@kevingoldbey7401 Not sure, as I hate to try to count and move the needles when it is running good. Rule of thumb is 1 1/2 out on both needles. I had lots of trouble with the Thunder Tiger engine needle settings so changed it out for OS. 32.
What a Reward, TOP RC ACE!.
Thank you much!
Nice to see another raptor v1 make it into the air
Thanks you sir. Me too!
I've got one of these - 100% complete with XP8103 Radio and ALL accessories - still in working condition. - Interested? Even has fuel (might be difficult to ship though).
I appreciate the offer, but mine is still good. Thanks much.
What you want for it?
I believe you could make something that flies from any pile of parts!
Haha. That is a nice compliment! Thank you!
He could
Dave,
Was watching one of your other videos of the Hirobo Shuttle and I have an OS .32 with the pull start, muffler, engine mount, fan that yours if you want it. It hasn't been run in about 25 years, but still turns over stiffly. I'll take of the backplate and put some light oil to see if it will free up. I'll sent a PM with my email address.
Love all your videos, especially the ones of the vintage aircraft and helis. Brings back fond memories before my back injuries.
Dave,
The bearings are not smooth. I have ordered parts to rebuild the motor and will ship it when finished. I liked this motor because no electric starter was needed. I had also used your technique for the remote glow plug wiring.
Your a good man! Thanks very much! Glad you like my Remote glow plug setup too!
Dave,
Sent a private message with my email address. Need some advice on dismantling the engine. Seems the conrod won't slide on the piston pin to allow the conrod to slide off the crankshaft pin.
Very nice flying bud I love how they fly nice and smooth in joy the hack out of the raptor 30 bud but add little more fuel to it so she smokes a little bit more less ware on the engine
Hello 🤝 Do you have a video on setting up this helicopter? The question is the alignment of the swashplate and flybar.
Sorry for the question, I am new to the hobby. Is the starting shaft supposed to turn clockwise or counter-clockwise? Many thanks!
NO problem. Just like a prop on an airplane, they start and run turning counter-clockwise.
@@NightFlyyer hmmm I have the same heli as the one you have in the video. But my starting shaft seems to spin loosely clockwise, and when I try to turn it counter-clockwise, it wouldn't go, like it's locked from going counter-clockwise. Do you know what I could be missing?
You sir, got a new subscriber!
@@johnpaulino1565 Well is is supposed to turn loosely cw, as it's on a one way shaft. To start the engine, it will feel tight, but should turn over the engine. If it wont turn CCW, the engine could be seized, the 1 way bearing could be seized, or the clutch was overheated in a crash and has fused together, as the bell housing for the clutch is plastic. You need to drop the engine out, and do some inspecting. Thanks for the Sub. Good luck.
Hi I finally got it to start!! Apparently the glowplug was flooded. Had anothe question, my heli came with Hitec gy-130 but it seems defective... it is making the rudder stutter and wont follow my input commands. Can i use any head lock gyro? Thanks!
@@johnpaulino1565 It can use any gyro. If it is fluttering, it's set for too much gain. It also must be turned on flat on the ground and set for 15 seconds before flight. I don't like gyros, so use mostly just rate gyros, not heading lock. Good luck and don't give up.
Hi what settings should the two needel should be set at on the carb
A good start is 1.5 turns out on both.
Anyone know if carbon rotor blades have metal weights cast inside of them or is this just with the wooden blades? Thanks.
Most do, as that is how to balance them, like an airplane wing. CG is balanced for level flight with the lead weights placed near the front of the blade. Good question. Thanks.
@@NightFlyyer I have a carbon main blade upgrade coming in the mail and was wondering about this. If you have an accident and crash your heli, those lead weights can become lethal projectiles but i guess it`s the same with carbon blades then. I divided 1550 rpm with 60 so around 26 rounds pr second is the math on these r/c heli blades. A respectable velocity.
@@mybluebelly Those weights are thin lead rods molded in just behind the blade leading edge. I’ve crashed several helis and they have never come out. My blades wood or cf have never broken in half and any peices never flew far. So relax and you’ll be fine.
@@NightFlyyer Way back when i learned to hover, the ground effect made my heli flip over and crash. I had my car parked maybe 30 yards away facing the heli and with the bonnet up. One of these lead weights blasted right into the underside of the hood/bonnet making a pretty bad dent. Had the bonnet not been open, i would have had to dish out for a new windshield. Dangerous stuff those lead weights.
@@mybluebelly Well that is rare in my experience of 45 years of heli flying which I even broke my foot after getting hit by the blades. I guess just dont crash.
Hi nightflyer can u tell me the throttle curve settings please
My Throttle curve is 0,25,50,75,100 %. Idle up (3D) is 90% across the board. Happy flying.
TT R50, R30 is very good rc NITRO heli. I myself learn fly nitro heli with Raptor 30 back in around 2000! But sadly they stopped production on it now. as too many diff class of electric heli in the market and the GPS-assisted drone took away more market. As technology advanced, now all rc heli no need fly bar nowaday, all FBL or DFC rotor head now.
Great story. Thanks kindly. I have newer videos on this machine. Maybe you saw them.
@@NightFlyyer furthermore in Singapore this tiny country as space constrain, CAAS new UNMANNED AIRCRAFT regulations made more difficulty into rc hobby. Now people need to register all rc aircraft beyong 250g, if over 7kg need UA PILOT LICENSE. 😰😰😭😭
@@AlexBongRCFunLand I know. Such a shame, but people with drones fly so high with no common sense, it makes it rough on us model airplane and heli pilots and we all get punished.
@@NightFlyyer Exactly!!😅
Hi can u tell me what I set the full collectof pitch at and the low collective pitch
I set middle throttle stick at zero pitch and about 6 degrees in either direction from full collective pitch and low. Hope that helps.
Hi I need to no the digerize off the full pitch fully collective like is it 12 digerize up top and the same down bottem
Like with the pitch Gage in the middle is zero then move it to the top what would it be I'm reading 12 digerize
Would it be right what it reading or should it be less then 12.00 digerize
@@kevingoldbey7401 6 top and 6 bottom. Total movement is 12 degrees. Increasing pitch a little more may be okay, but if it starts dragging the engine down, you will have to lower it. It is trial and error.
I have this heli from a friend really good heli the problem the parts to replace are a way to spensive....
For sure. Try finding a used one on Ebay for just parts. That is what I did. Thanks.
@@NightFlyyer really I don't fly this heli for about 6 years I still have it because was a gift, but I do start the engine and test the servos the reason I don't fly it is because I swap to drones and I don't have to travel to the local park to fly.
Another enjoyable trip down memory lane. I bought the rtf R30 when it was released. The tt36 was not a great engine by any means, the tried and true os 32sxh netted great results. I flew the heck out of it, learned mild 3d. Crashed, fixed, flew, repeat! Ive owned 3 more since that one.
Anyone looking for great tips on this bird, go to raptortechnique.com
This channel makes me want restore/fly an old nitro, more people should follow suit! Challenge yourself!
Right on. Hopefully you are still flying. Thanks so kindly and stay well from this now 74 year old!
Honkai Impact, that was the commercial to your video.
Hi mate my engine is red hot when I try fly it could u tell me what I should set my needels at it's a is max 32 engine what should the fuel needels should be set at and the needels that is in the throttle leaver please
If it is too lean it will start to lift off the ground and die. I set mine to just that max lean and back it out 1/3 turn. They run hot, but not red hot. Maybe your fan is slipping or damaged or missing. That will cause overheat. I do not know the number of turns that this is set at, and as you know, I am not going in to count, as mine is set. I think the main needle is about 1 1/2 turns, but start with 2 ccw turns out from all the way in. It takes patience. Richen the low speed needle a 1/4 turn and see what that does. Or take it out, put a 9x6 prop on it and run it on the bench. Good luck.
Hi mate no I have all brand new parts on the heli new clutch and fan to I will put them all way in and try 1/14 turns out on the throttle side and 2 out one the fuel side to see if this works I thank u so much pal
Wow I can get one that has no flying time for 275 is it worth that
Well, if you are a good heli pilot, and it has a radio, I guess so, as parts are very hard to find, so if you crash it, it may not be worth it. Good luck.
If you're ever in Georgia look me up I got a bunch of raptor Parts 50 bucks
Haha! I'll keep that in mind! Thanks.
I'm always looking for parts as well! :)